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Bar-bq
01-16-2008, 04:58 PM
Number one of the upcoming draft season. Explanations in full for each team. Took me a fair while, and I'd like to know what I can change.

The picks I'm most unsure about are Baltimore, Detroit, and Tampa.

1. Miami Dolphins-

Alright; just bite the bullet. I’ve been stewing and stewing and procrastinating over this pick long enough. We all know Parcells likes his linebackers BIG. Look at Bobby Carpenter and DeMarcus Ware from his tenure in Dallas. Here, the nod goes to Vernon Gholston for being an athletic freak; Better as an outside linebacker prospect in a 3-4 than draft classmate Chris Long. McFadden was an option, but Julius Jones and Marion Barber were found in later rounds, and Ronnie Brown was a stud this year. Therefore….

Miami Dolphins Select…Vernon Gholston, OLB/DE, OSU.

2. St. Louis Rams.

For me, easy pick. As a Ram fan, this will be the point I’ll hammer home until draft day about the OL. You don’t know what you’ve got. You just can’t tell with 4 of 5 starters being inured at various points throughout the season. Which is why it makes no sense to draft an offensive lineman in round one. Why pay a guy millions upon millions when he might not even see the field for two years, when you can pay a Chris Williams less money for doing arguably the same job? Pace is coming back from injury, and it would be wise for the Rams to look for a free agent inside (Jacob Bell, Stacy Andrews, maybe). Therefore, what you have with Jake Long, in the context of the Rams OL, is another unknown commodity. If you’re going to pay millions to a player, you might as well pay the man who is going to see the field. With Leonard Little old, injured, and no guarantee to return, James Hall being stunningly mediocre, and nobody else worthy of a starting job, the obvious selection is….

St. Louis Rams Select…Chris Long, DE, Virginia.

3. Atlanta Falcons
Toughie, here. A franchise signal caller could make all the difference in the world. But Darren McFadden is clearly BPA. I have to think that Ryan is the type of player that can come in, and can make Norwood that much better. Because when you’re actually a threat to pass the ball, there’s more than one aspect of your game opposing defenses have to pay attention to. Chris Freakin’ Redman should be all the reasoning required.

Atlanta Falcons Select…Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College.

4. Oakland Raiders.
Just how far does McFadden fall? I think it’s DBPA here Vs. OBPA. IMO, the winner here is Glen Dorsey. The defense was 31st against the run with Warren Sapp. Without replacing him, there’s probably only one place that I think they could go. I’m working under the assumption that 1000 yard tailback Justin Fargas will return.

Oakland Raiders Select Glen Dorsey, DT, LSU.

5. Kansas City Chiefs.
Virtual no-brainer.

Kansas City Chiefs Select Jake Long, OT, Michigan.

6. New York Jets
A dream come true. Thomas Jones cost them a second-rounder last year, but BPA in this draft and probably the next one, too, is McFadden, a rare and gifted athlete who adds a whole new dimension to the Jets offense. Quarterback could also be considered, but, really, who’s available? Brohm will not be a Jet in 08, unless he slips rather dramatically.

New York Jets Select Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas

7. New England Patriots
Possibly the only team who can afford to reach here, and the one position that they could use some help with is corner. They would have been devastated to see Jenkins and Laurinitis return to school. The only other choice here is BPA- a guy like Ellis or Clady.

New England Patriots Select Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida.

8. Baltimore Ravens
Pending Terrell Suggs’ FA heave-ho, this is potentially the pick I’m least confident in. But Suggs will shimmy on out of Baltimore for the big bucks elsewhere, leaving this pick wide open. I considered Keith Rivers, but he’s probably too small for a 3-4, I considered Brian Brohm, but it’s too big of a reach here, I thought about BPA and Clady or Ellis again, and the only prospect I’m left with is…

Baltimore Ravens Select Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida.

9. Cincinnati Bengals
Things just fall into place for Cincy; they grab a top flight DT to fill a hole where they really need it. Go Trojans!

Cincinnati Bengals Select Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC.

10. New Orleans Saints.
There’s two ways they could go here, and I can probably see either as an alright fit. Best Player Available wins out though. Keith Rivers is again pipped at the post.

New Orleans Saints Select Kenny Phillips, S, Miami.

11. Buffalo Bills
Well, well. I can’t tell you how much trouble this is causing me. You could go Keith Rivers, you could reach for the DL, you could go BPA and take Clady by the jugular, or you could go WR. Now, DeSean Jackson is my no.1 Wideout prospect, and Josh Reed just doesn’t excite me…but…

Buffalo Bills Select Keith Rivers, LB, USC

12. Denver Broncos
What they really need is help up front. I really can’t see that being available here. Phillips would have been nice, but really, all I can see here is BPA.

Denver Broncos Select Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St.

13. Carolina Panthers
This here is selection by elimination. They really could use a replacement QB to groom behind Delhomme if they aren’t sold on Matt Moore, who looked good late in the season. They have so much money tied up in the quarterback position that overpaying another one, especially a guy like Brohm, who still has a lot of question marks, could be a mistake that kills the rest of the team. Jordan Gross and Travelle Wharton are free agents, and my guess is that one of them will be eliminated. See what I mean now? Elimination?

Carolina Panthers Select Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh.

14. Chicago Bears
What do you do if you’re a sinking team that starts a QB platoon of Rex Grossman and Brian Brohm? You board the Brian Brohm lifeboat and hold on for dear life.

Chicago Bears Select Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville.

15. Detroit Lions
The consensus pick seems to be Otah, who is gone. Maybe the 54 sacks had something to do with Mike Martz’ 3-step-drop-BANG approach to getting your quarterback killed. The next best thing, IMO, is any defensive player.

Detroit Lions select Calais Campbell, DE, Miami (FL)

16. Arizona Cardinals
What’s better than one Edgerrin James? Two Edgerrin James’!

Arizona Cardinals select Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon.

17. Minnesota Vikings
I believe that the reality of the situation for the Vikings is that if you’re dead last in passing defense, you didn’t get to the QB nearly enough, despite spending first round picks on Erasmus James and Kenichi Udeze. This pick is a bit of a reach, but the guy has an unbelievable motor and played great against Auburn.

Minnesota Vikings Select Phillip Merling, DE, Clemson.

18. Houston Texans
The running game is non-existent, but neither, really, is the offensive line. Schaub got hurt last year, and they could find a great runner in round two. That’s why the pick here is not Mendenhall, as I thought it would be. It’s Oher, to start opposite Eric Winston, who was great last season.

Houston Texans Select Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi.

19. Philadelphia Eagles
There are probably no DE’s to go with, here, as much as I’d like to slip one in. They need depth in the secondary, and a wide receiver. This gives the new QB a new toy.

Philadelphia Eagles Select DeSean Jackson, WR, California.

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers
You never know how long Jeff Garcia will last. Wide Receiver is probably the next option, and Sam Baker could be a go-er, but the time is now to get your future QB. You can find good depth at WR and OL in rounds 2 and three. Maybe a team takes a liking to Ernest Graham.

Tampa Bay Selects Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky.

21. Washington Redskins
Defensive End is the trendy pick, but I seem to have exhausted my options, there. Wideout is an option, but a true presence along the DL is also needed.

Washington Redskins Select Kentwan Balmer, DT, North Carolina

22. Dallas Cowboys (Via Cleveland)
In some form or another, the Cowboys will probably lose one back from their platoon this off-season, with Barber being a RFA, and Jones a UFA. Look for them to compensate with this pick. Jones has the breakaway speed and playmaking ability the Boys would love to add to their offense; just look at his 8.0 YPC average this season. That’s the primary reason he gets the nod over Mendenhall.

Dallas Cowboys Select Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas.

23. Pittsburgh Steelers
Ben Roethlisberger took a beating this season, with the line giving up 53 sacks, six of them coming against Jacksonville in the playoffs. This should help to change that, and should also fill an immediate need with Starks and Faneca potentially departing as free agents.

Pittsburgh Steelers Select Sam Baker, OT, USC.

24. Seattle Seahawks
Like, Duh.

Seattle Seahawks Select Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Illinois.

25. Tennessee Titans
Despite an injury marred season, this player could find himself going in the late first, and fills an immediate need for the Titans. Would make a nice pair with Williams on the outside. He has a history with Vince Young, making him the choice over Malcolm Kelly. Stock will probably be altered by 40 time, as it always is.

Tennessee Titans Select Limas Sweed, WR, Texas.

26. New York Giants
Anyone who watched injury decimate the Giants secondary Sunday against the Cowboys will hardly be surprised by this pick. I think Sam Madison’s age will eventually catch up to him, and Corey Webster probably doesn’t see much more time as a starter.

New York Giants Select Leodis McKlevin, CB, Troy.

27. San Diego Chargers
The OL has been consistent throughout the playoffs, and San Diego really has very few needs. Godser Cherilus seems to be the right fit on the right side, especially considering that Shane Olivea lost his job there earlier this season. Other option here was BPA; Dan Conner.

San Diego Chargers Select Godser Cherilus, OT, BC

28. Jacksonville Jaguars
I wanted to go defense with this pick, specifically at end, but I can’t see anyone other than Moses or Jackson here, both of whom would be slight reaches. Chris Ellis is a guy I could see sliding up some draft boards with a good combine. I guess the guy here is Malcolm Kelly, to give Garrard a new target. Reggie Williams has a knack for the end-zone, but Matt Jones has done little to show he’s the star everyone thought he could be.

Jacksonville Jaguars Select Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma.

29. Dallas Cowboys
Back to back Sooners, here, as the Cowboys find a great player late in the first. This pick may have even made sense at 22, especially with the giants looking Corner, and not too may guys chasing top backs this late.

Dallas Cowboys Select Reggie Smith, DB, Oklahoma.

30. San Francisco 49ers (Via Indianapolis)
The Niners are disappointed to see Jackson, Kelly and Sweed all taken, but find a nice consolation prize in James Hardy. Big threat for the red-zone, should fit well into a Martz’ style offense, and give Alex Smith his another chance to prove his worth.

San Francisco Selects James Hardy, WR, Indianna

31. Green Bay Packers
The last pick of round one, and it’s a fairly obvious one for me. The Packers have needs in the secondary, and there are a few guys to have fallen through the cracks. For me, the competition is between Godfrey, Cason, Talib, and Ikegwuonwu. Cason wins out as the most proven corner, and the Thorpe award winner of 2007.

Green Bay Packers Select Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona.

32. Forfeited.

DragonMekha
01-16-2008, 05:05 PM
Given who's available at the Eagles pick,Desean Jackson is a good pick.He would also give us the KR/PR we really need.

iloxygenil
01-16-2008, 05:13 PM
BOO Matt Ryan to ATL.

Patriots16-0
01-16-2008, 05:32 PM
If the Jets passed up McFadden.. Arghhhhh...

T-RICH49
01-16-2008, 05:49 PM
awesome KC pick

mikehop05
01-16-2008, 05:54 PM
i give u credit for going against many trends with your selections

the steelers actually pick 23, and sam baker is a decent slection for them... no complaints

doingthisinsteadofwork
01-16-2008, 05:55 PM
good Oakland pick.

skinzzfan25
01-16-2008, 06:09 PM
I'd take Baker or Cason at 21 for the Skins. Balmer is good and all, but we have plenty of young depth at DT.

Addict
01-16-2008, 06:59 PM
campbell isn't (even if WMD is in love with him) a cover 2 DE, Lions will look for DE if a speedy one falls or go with OL, CB or LB (or DT, or RB) really we have so many holes...

tjsunstein
01-16-2008, 07:11 PM
Good draft. I like it alot, all the effort you put into it and doing alot of picks your own way and not the way people want them to go but the way you think they will. As for the Packers draft, it works.

Bills2083
01-16-2008, 07:32 PM
Good pick for Buffalo.

BTW, Clady would not be a good pick for us. We just signed Langston Walker to a $25 million contract last offseason.

SuperMcGee
01-16-2008, 07:53 PM
Josh Reed is the epitome of excitement.


Pretty good pick, I'm not pledged to anything at the moment

KCJ58
01-16-2008, 07:55 PM
Love the Rams pick :)

holtfan92
01-16-2008, 08:00 PM
Love the Rams pick :)

I agree (10 characters)

hugegmenfan
01-16-2008, 08:07 PM
its a good giants pick. im more of a reggie smith/cason guy but mckelvin is cool too

DiG
01-16-2008, 08:17 PM
for the skins a DT isn't really a big need for us unless griffin gets cut because mongomery has been a machine and is very young and gholston has been great as a backup. de is a popular pick because thats the spot we need not the inside. cb and oline are other big needs. a possession wr is possible if the right value is there but im more likely to think thatll happen before the draft.

G-Men88
01-16-2008, 08:27 PM
Cason>McKlevin

roidrunner
01-16-2008, 08:32 PM
i like the packers pick.

Bar-bq
01-16-2008, 08:45 PM
i give u credit for going against many trends with your selections

the steelers actually pick 23, and sam baker is a decent slection for them... no complaints


Duely noted. Will be fixed!

campbell isn't (even if WMD is in love with him) a cover 2 DE, Lions will look for DE if a speedy one falls or go with OL, CB or LB (or DT, or RB) really we have so many holes...

But really, who else is there? I think Merling is going high as it is, and he's probably the spped rusher you're referencing, unless you're talking abour Derrick Harvey, who's gone. The next OT taken is Sam Baker at 24, so, again, unless you want to reach? The best corner prospect not taken would be Reggie Smith, and he goes a lot later too. Linebacker...Dan Conner doesn't even make my first round but he could be the go, I suppose. He was somebody I didn't expect to fall that far. It's really an unfortunate situation you're in, where need and value can't marry.

With that sort of freak size and ability, how does he not fit in the cover two, anyways? Seems like a 'plug in and play' guy, to me.

BOO Matt Ryan to ATL.

I'm sorry, but I don't see it. The franchise is in disarray, and that can be attributed to the Mike Vick debacle, and the ensuing offensive lousiness. I was tossing up McFadden, Long, and Ryan, and I think this may be a pick to appease the fans, rather than ensure the success of the franchise.

The reality of the situation is that starting two 7th round rookies at offensive tackle isn't guaranteed to get you anywhere. But neither is having diddly squat behind center. I think that the best value can be found with OT in round two, seeing as there's great depth at that position and a quarterback in round one. What better way to set yourselves up for the future?

Moreover, what's to stop opposing teams from stacking the box if McFadden was drafted? Other than Sharod White, there's nothing to be scared of in the passing game. Look at what happened when Ryan Grant emerged in Green Bay to compliment a proficient passing team. What I'm saying is that sort of balance has to be developed, and you have to draft well to put yourself in a position to achieve it.

for the skins a DT isn't really a big need for us unless griffin gets cut because mongomery has been a machine and is very young and gholston has been great as a backup. de is a popular pick because thats the spot we need not the inside. cb and oline are other big needs. a possession wr is possible if the right value is there but im more likely to think thatll happen before the draft.

I was in a similar spot with Detroit and Washington.

I think Griffin has a high cap figure, yes? So I was making that choice based on the assumption that he goes bye-bye. But, I see your point. You have some pro bowlers at OT, so I assume to OL help you want is inside? I can't find good value there either. Help me out; who would you like?

Corner is probably the easy way out for me, there.

TACKLE
01-16-2008, 08:57 PM
Tough call. A LDE would be ideal to replace the 34 year old Phillip Daniels but Campbell and Merling are both off the board.

Yung Flippa
01-16-2008, 09:11 PM
I'd personally like Campbell, over Harvey, I don't think that either are worth a Top 10 pick, hopefully we trade down and take a corner.

BaLLiN
01-16-2008, 09:27 PM
Giants pick could be good, i thought he was mainly an incredible returner but not amazing at corner, but Reggie Smith would be better because of his versatility

Vikes99ej
01-16-2008, 10:16 PM
Great selection considering both Campbell and Harvey are taken.

thebow305
01-17-2008, 12:10 AM
Perfect Phins pick!

Turtlepower
01-17-2008, 12:51 AM
Cason>McKlevin

McKelvin>Cason. =D

d34ng3l021
01-17-2008, 02:43 AM
Duely noted. Will be fixed!

I'm sorry, but I don't see it. The franchise is in disarray, and that can be attributed to the Mike Vick debacle, and the ensuing offensive lousiness. I was tossing up McFadden, Long, and Ryan, and I think this may be a pick to appease the fans, rather than ensure the success of the franchise.

The reality of the situation is that starting two 7th round rookies at offensive tackle isn't guaranteed to get you anywhere. But neither is having diddly squat behind center. I think that the best value can be found with OT in round two, seeing as there's great depth at that position and a quarterback in round one. What better way to set yourselves up for the future?

Moreover, what's to stop opposing teams from stacking the box if McFadden was drafted? Other than Sharod White, there's nothing to be scared of in the passing game. Look at what happened when Ryan Grant emerged in Green Bay to compliment a proficient passing team. What I'm saying is that sort of balance has to be developed, and you have to draft well to put yourself in a position to achieve it.


You know what appeases fans? Winning. Our OL is in terrible condition and putting a rookie QB behind that line will just hurt his development. We need to build a solid OL and other weapons before we bring in the QB of the future to manage our offense. from then on, he can take the reigns. Think Roethlisberger and Pittsburgh. He had a great team around of him and was just asked to manage games. he started to develop, and now look at him.

none of the QBs have established themselves as worthy of a top5 pick. QB and LT are huge needs and if there isnt a QB worth that high of a pick, then we just go with the LT.

and btw, chris redman had a qb rating of 90 and had a 2-1 td:int ratio.

plus, his birthday is 7/7/77

Bar-bq
01-17-2008, 03:05 AM
You know what appeases fans? Winning. Our OL is in terrible condition and putting a rookie QB behind that line will just hurt his development. We need to build a solid OL and other weapons before we bring in the QB of the future to manage our offense. from then on, he can take the reigns. Think Roethlisberger and Pittsburgh. He had a great team around of him and was just asked to manage games. he started to develop, and now look at him.

none of the QBs have established themselves as worthy of a top5 pick. QB and LT are huge needs and if there isnt a QB worth that high of a pick, then we just go with the LT.



I can't say I fancy Jake Long's value that highly, either. I think this situation is one where we'll have to agree to disagree, I think either are viable choices, but I think you'd get better value finding a QB in the first and then an OT in the second (due to the overall depth of the OT class) as you can probably find better players at OT in round two than you can at QB.

Either way, cheers for your two cents.

d34ng3l021
01-17-2008, 03:39 AM
yeah. well, good day mate.

WMD
01-17-2008, 04:06 AM
campbell isn't (even if WMD is in love with him) a cover 2 DE, Lions will look for DE if a speedy one falls or go with OL, CB or LB (or DT, or RB) really we have so many holes...

We're gonna fire Marinara after this season (4-12) and scrap the Tampa defense! Might as well plan for life after the zone.

Addict
01-17-2008, 04:24 AM
We're gonna fire Marinara after this season (4-12) and scrap the Tampa defense! Might as well plan for life after the zone.

maybe sticking to a coach would be an effective strategy for once, continuity has it's advantages

WMD
01-17-2008, 04:35 AM
maybe sticking to a coach would be an effective strategy for once, continuity has it's advantages

Which is why we won't do it..

Addict
01-17-2008, 05:50 AM
Which is why we won't do it..

I hate it when you're right WMD.

Mr. Myogi
01-17-2008, 08:13 AM
Moreover, what's to stop opposing teams from stacking the box if McFadden was drafted? Other than Sharod White, there's nothing to be scared of in the passing game. Look at what happened when Ryan Grant emerged in Green Bay to compliment a proficient passing team. What I'm saying is that sort of balance has to be developed, and you have to draft well to put yourself in a position to achieve it.

I'm really not sure how much you know about the game of football, but I will just use the example of the Minnesota Vikings.

T. Jackson did not have a great year but he improved as a franchise quarterback simply because the focus was placed on the run game of ROOKIE sensation A. Peterson. With all that said, the way to bring in a rookie QB to be your franchise guy would be to strengthen everything around him so that he will not be the only focus.

Getting McFadden or an Best Available OT would be more understandable than getting a QB and having him flop because he don't have a strong enough supporting cast. I say that simply because I trust that Redman/ Shockley and leftwich is much better than any rookie QB in the draft.

As a matter of fact why don't your team draft RYAN. We don't need him or want him. THANKS A MILLION!!!!!

Ewing
01-17-2008, 05:45 PM
I don't know how many times I have to say it, stop giving us Limas Sweed just because he went to Texas. Kelly is a far better prospect and every Titan fan on the planet would rather have him.

Bar-bq
01-18-2008, 05:50 AM
I don't know how many times I have to say it, stop giving us Limas Sweed just because he went to Texas. Kelly is a far better prospect and every Titan fan on the planet would rather have him.

Okie doke.

look for a revised edition in a couple of weeks with all your suggestions on board.