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ThePudge
01-22-2008, 05:22 PM
This is actually from a few days back, my mock draft today had some pretty significant differences. However, I am playing around with this scenario. Hopefully won't bore you. Don't tell me who to give your team, I don't care. Let me know about systematic differences. I care, specifically about: Jenkins to Detroit and Talib to Washington. Those are two situations I'm not 100% on. No analysis for the 25th pick on, so sorry about that. Have fun, should be something different.

1. Miami Dolphins – Vernon Gholston – DE/OLB – Ohio State
-It came down to Gholston vs. Chris Long here for me. I see Chris Long as a very solid, Patrick Kerney-like player, but in the end I think he lacks the spectacular athleticism and explosiveness that Gholston brings to table as a pass rusher. Both players can play in the 3-4, but Gholston projects to OLB, where as Long projects upfront as a DE. Gholston may be a physical marvel, but he probably isn’t worth the top pick and I think the Dolphins will try to shop this pick. If they keep it I think they’ll go with the guy with the higher ceiling.

2. St. Louis Rams – Chris Long – DE – Virginia
-The Rams had some trouble in just about every position this year, but they faced their biggest issues in the trenches (mostly on offense.) They could opt for an OT in Jake Long here, but the 2nd pick in the draft is no time to add depth. They also could look inside for the second year in a row and go with Glenn Dorsey. Though those players are both viable options, I think they’ll go with the very solid, durable, and consistent Chris Long. Long can play several places and may even be able to move inside on passing downs if they needed to. He is a good pass rusher though, with excellent strength and good speed. The right choice for the most injury-bitten team in football a year ago.

3. Oakland Raiders – Glenn Dorsey – DT – LSU
-With Justin Fargas emerging and a deep class of backs this year, Dorsey is the pick over the highly touted Darren McFadden. Dorsey is as disruptive as they come and plays with exceptional intensity. The Raiders could have a very good defense if they could only stop the run. It is their Achilles heel. Dorsey is equally as strong as a pass-rusher as he is a run stopper and double teaming him could lead to one on one situations on the outside with pass-rusher Derrick Burgess.

4. Kansas City Chiefs – Jake Long – OT – Michigan
-Almost the dream scenario for the Chiefs. Whether Long is seen as a franchise LT or just a solid RT, he will start right away in Kansas City and will be one of the top instant impact guys in the entire draft. Long is not an elite LT prospect like Joe Thomas and D’Brickshaw Ferguson were before him, but Long is enormous, moves well and is a very underrated pass-blocker, allowing only one sack all season (Vernon Gholston.) Sedrick Ellis would likely be considered here, as well as true LT prospect Ryan Clady.

5. Atlanta Falcons – Matt Ryan – QB – Boston College
-Simply not a good break for Atlanta here, as they end up picking 5th Overall and see Dorsey and Jake Long picked right in front of their eyes. Falcons fans can fight for Darren McFadden all they want right now, but there is no question this team needs serious help at QB immediately. Matt Ryan may not be considered an elite prospect at QB, but he is mature beyond his years, is very tough, and may be one of the only QB’s in this class who can come in and play right away.

6. New York Jets – Darren McFadden – RB – Arkansas
-Ok, so the Thomas Jones thing didn’t exactly work as planned. The Jets finished T30 in Rushing Td’s with only 6. McFadden is without a doubt the best player available right now and would fill a need. New York may try to trade out of this spot, but I’m not sure who would come up and take their pick here.

7. New England Patriots (f/SF) – Derrick Harvey – OLB – Florida
-I’m a big believer that Harvey, a gifted pass rusher, will move up due to an impressive bowl game and Combine performance. Harvey wouldn’t have to play right away for the Pats, but I’m sure they’d find a spot for him on Special Teams and as a pass-rushing specialist immediately. I don’t think the Patriots will keep this pick, but if they do I like Harvey over Mike Jenkins and Kenny Phillips.

8. Baltimore Ravens – Brian Brohm – QB – Louisville
-Here’s a pick I’m not really in love with. Harbaugh’s a QB guy, but I’m not sure if that helps or hurts the pick here. Would he favor picking a QB early or does he think he can develop Troy Smith or a QB in the later rounds? I’m a fan of Troy Smith and I think the team looked a bit better with him at the helm, but in the end Brohm may be the way to go. Brohm, like Ryan, should be able to play right away. He’s a very smart, accurate QB who put up big time numbers in college. Nothing about him is going to “wow” you, but he’s a mechanically sound QB that would help bring stability to the Ravens struggling passing game.

9. Cincinnati Bengals – Sedrick Ellis – DT – USC
-Ellis may be just what the Bengals have needed here. He’s a very disruptive interior lineman with unbelievable strength and excellent quickness. Ellis is a hustle guy as well, an extremely hard worker, and nothing about his character is questionable. He had a stellar career at USC and an even better year. With the emergence of Nedu Ndukwe near the season’s end, the need for a Safety dropped a good deal. The Bengals still could use help at Defensive End and Outside Linebacker, but Ellis is the best value here by a long shot.

10. New Orleans Saints – Keith Rivers – OLB – USC
-Rivers may not be worth a Top 10 pick, but he’s as good as it gets for LB’s in this draft, where the Saints are absolutely awful. The pick has to be defense and you could make the argument for Phillips, Jenkins, or even McKelvin with a big Combine, but Rivers right now has proved the most and still has plenty of upside and star potential to him.

11. Buffalo Bills – Malcolm Kelly – WR – Oklahoma
-The Bills have never struck me as a team opposed to reaching for a player based on need. What this Bills team desperately needs is a big, physical receiver to stretch the field and free Lee Evans from constant double teams. Trent Edwards will be playing in just his second year and I’m sure he’d be sitting at home on draft day celebrating this pick. They could in a variety of ways with this pick, but Malcolm Kelly might be the guy who can make the biggest impact right away.

12. Denver Broncos – Ryan Clady – OT – Boise State
-The Broncos stay put and their perfect man comes right to them. The athletic Clady is a true LT prospect who looks like a picture-perfect fit in the Zone Blocking Scheme Denver runs. He’s a big guy who moves extremely well and should impress plenty of people at the scouting combine with how well he should handle the agility drills. The one key factor here is, the Broncos never exactly have needed first round guys on that line and may get better use out of a guy like Miami S Kenny Phillips that early.

13. Carolina Panthers – Kenny Phillips – S – Miami
-With Clady off the board, the Panthers are still able to address another glaring need at Safety. Kenny Phillips is a very good athlete and comes from the DB machine that is the University of Miami. That same university produced Jon Beason, the Panthers first rounder in 2007 who enjoyed great success this past year. Phillips may very well be the only Safety in this class worth a first or second round look, so the Panthers may have to act now to get their hands on an impact player.

14. Chicago Bears – Andre Woodson – QB – Kentucky
-In the end, I don’t think the Bears make this pick. With Clady and Phillips off the board though, and no Safety or Left Tackle prospect in sight that would warrant this high a pick, it has to be QB where the Bears always seem to have a glaring weakness. Woodson has a tremendous arm that would probably do wonders for Bernard Berrian, and though he’s not a particularly accurate passer, he doesn’t turn the ball over much.

15. Detroit Lions – Mike Jenkins – CB – South Florida
-With the depth in this draft for Offensive Tackles, Detroit instead opts to take this year’s top Senior CB. He may not be a lockdown cover corner but he has good physical tools and had a big year for USF. An athletic corner who would help ease last year’s loss of Dre Bly. A Running Back has been rumored, but once again, there are plenty in this draft and it probably wouldn’t hurt all too much to put it off a round or two.

16. Arizona Cardinals – Rashard Mendenhall – RB – Illinois
-Last year the Cards were reported to be flirting with Adrian Peterson close to draft day. The Cards have had a rough running game the past few years and let’s face it, they don’t have the same Edgerrin James that tore things up for the Colts way back when. Mendenhall is a Top 15 talent, a big, fast, complete back who has the upside to be a star in this league.

17. Minnesota Vikings – DeSean Jackson – WR – California
-It’s a well-known fact that the Vikings could use a game-breaker at WR. Bobby Wade, Sidney Rice, and Robert Ferguson aren’t the type of players who can take a drag route the distance. Jackson would also replace Mewelde Moore right away returning punts and add explosiveness there as well. The Vikings could also go with a Quarterback, Defensive Back, or Defensive End here.

18. Houston Texans – Jonathan Stewart – RB – Oregon
-Even with the deep class of Running Backs, Stewart is too good to miss here. The Texans could wait a round and land Ray Rice or Steve Slaton, two nice fits, but Stewart an agile back that goes about 5’10 230 should be widely regarded as a Top 15 talent after he blows up the Combine. Of course, the Texans could go with a CB here which is another trouble spot; however, a star back would really set their offense off.

19. Philadelphia Eagles – Jeff Otah – OT – Pittsburgh
-May be a bit of a surprise to some here. The Eagles ignore the more pressing need of defensive end and the constant need of a big, number one Wide Receiver to invest in the future. John Runyan can’t play forever, meaning the Eagles will soon have a hole at RT, and Jeff Otah is a massive body at 6’6 340 that can really move. Otah is seen as a raw player, which is great because he wouldn’t be forced into the starting lineup prematurely in Philadelphia.

20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Devin Thomas – WR – Michigan State
-It’s one surprise after another. Joey Galloway is 36 and Ike Hilliard will be 32 before next season. Devin Thomas has a world of potential and had a breakout junior season. Thomas, a big, fast receiver is considered an Early 2nd Round prospect right now but I predict his stock will rise closer to draft day. As usual though, the Bucs could use Offensive Line help.

21. Washington Redskins – Aqib Talib – CB – Kansas
-Washington may have more pressing needs, but I don’t feel there’s a defensive end on the board that I’d consider a good value here. Cornerback is one of those positions that you just can’t enough of and starter Shawn Springs is getting up there in age (33 at the start of the year.) Talib has plenty of upside and tremendous ball skills. I’ve also heard rumors saying he may be a better fit at Safety, which, unfortunately (RIP Sean Taylor), would be a welcome addition.

22. Dallas Cowboys (f/CLE) – Leodis McKelvin – CB – Troy
-The Cowboys have a slight need for a corner after this past years. Terrance Newman is a keeper but Anthony Henry’s not getting younger and the Cowboys haven’t gotten consistent play out of their #3 and 4 corners. McKelvin is a good value here and could add flair to the return game right away.

23. Pittsburgh Steelers – Gosder Cherilus – OT – Boston College
-With Pittsburgh’s Offensive Line in shambles this offseason, the Steelers either need to resign both Offensive Tackles or draft one in a rich draft. Cherilus is an enormous RT prospect with long arms, experience, and good footwork. After a couple days of practice from the Senior Bowl I have heard nothing but great things. James Hardy was also strongly considered.

24. Tennessee Titans – James Hardy – WR – Indiana
-The Titans can’t seem to strike gold on any of their mid round WR’s so this time they bite the bullet and use a first round pick to help their most ailing position. Hardy is a huge, Plaxico Burress-type receiver who definitely would give Tennessee something they have not had before. He is a redzone nightmare waiting to happen.

25. Seattle Seahawks – Felix Jones – RB - Arkansas
26. Jacksonville Jaguars – Calais Campbell – DE - Miami
27. San Diego Chargers – Kentwan Balmer – DT/DE – North Carolina
28. Dallas Cowboys – Limas Sweed – WR - Texas
29. San Francisco 49ers (f/IND)- Mario Manningham – WR - Michigan
30. Green Bay Packers – Reggie Smith – DB - Oklahoma
31. New York Giants – Curtis Lofton – LB - Oklahoma

Yung Flippa
01-22-2008, 05:41 PM
I really don't like Brian Brohm, rather have Mike jenkins. I think that Troy is our future! At least he should be.
Good Houston pick.

ThePudge
01-22-2008, 05:48 PM
I really don't like Brian Brohm, rather have Mike jenkins. I think that Troy is our future! At least he should be.
Good Houston pick.

Oddly enough I agree. I mentioned I'd done another mock draft today. In that mock draft I had the Ravens passing on QB's and going for Jenkins. Who knows though, Brohm has the kind of smarts and consistency that the Ravens have sorely lacked at the QB position for the better part of the decade... so I wouldn't count it out.

tjsunstein
01-22-2008, 06:14 PM
Reggie Smith is awesome. Ill take it. I also like the originality your mock had. Nice work.

Thunder&Lightning
01-22-2008, 06:21 PM
good SD pick

Bills2083
01-22-2008, 06:22 PM
good pick and explanation for Buffalo.

T-RICH49
01-22-2008, 06:51 PM
good pick and reasoning for KC

scar988
01-22-2008, 07:16 PM
5. Atlanta Falcons – Matt Ryan – QB – Boston College
-Simply not a good break for Atlanta here, as they end up picking 5th Overall and see Dorsey and Jake Long picked right in front of their eyes. Falcons fans can fight for Darren McFadden all they want right now, but there is no question this team needs serious help at QB immediately. Matt Ryan may not be considered an elite prospect at QB, but he is mature beyond his years, is very tough, and may be one of the only QB’s in this class who can come in and play right away.



so #11 overall prospect cxause he's a QB. or the BPA at need spots like how we actually draft which woudl likely be the #2 overall rpospect. yeah. so we take Ryan? no sense is being made here by that pick.

DiG
01-22-2008, 07:54 PM
talib isnt a good fit for us. his skills translate to a cover 2 corner or a FS. the skins may look to upgrade at SS but we are set at FS with Landry. for a cb we will look more for a physical corner with speed and good in man coverage. leodis is a better fit than talib.

derza222
01-22-2008, 08:13 PM
RB isn't really a huge need for the Jets, it's on the OL. We have two capable backs but a very unstable line to run behind. Better pick there would be Harvey IMO, fills more of a need and as you said could jump up. Keep an eye on Sed Elllis too if he shows he's capable of being a 3-4 NT down the road, some people think it's possible. I'm not convinced yet but it's worth looking at.

ThePudge
01-22-2008, 08:21 PM
talib isnt a good fit for us. his skills translate to a cover 2 corner or a FS. the skins may look to upgrade at SS but we are set at FS with Landry. for a cb we will look more for a physical corner with speed and good in man coverage. leodis is a better fit than talib.

Thanks for the input and that's just about exactly what I was looking for when I posted at the top that I wasn't sure on a couple systematic fits.

ThePudge
01-22-2008, 08:32 PM
so #11 overall prospect cxause he's a QB. or the BPA at need spots like how we actually draft which woudl likely be the #2 overall rpospect. yeah. so we take Ryan? no sense is being made here by that pick.

The #11 prospect? Is that so? Where's that one written in stone? Oh, and you're probably right, the three QB system of Leftwich, Redman, and Harrington really worked wonders this year. hah I must've been crazy to give them a quality QB who could come in and start right away. McFadden could work, but in a draft so deep in quality RB's, why burn a Top 5 pick on a player that's simply going to take half the carries in a split backfield with Norwood? That can wait until the 3rd, maybe even 4th round. The more logical thing is to take a player that can come in and contribute in a big way from Day One and vastly improve over what you've got. Ryan is one of four QB's I think have a shot at starting as a rookie (Ryan, Woodson, Brohm, Henne) and trust me, you should know s much as anybody, Atlanta could definitely use a new face there. They could go Henne in the 2nd (With the momentum he has going, he'll probably end up right around there), but I think that'd mean it'd be Dorsey or Long in the 1st, who are both gone in this scenario. Of course, if they fell in love with Ryan Clady or Sedrick Ellis that'd make things more interesting. No sense is being made here by Falcons fans.

ThePudge
01-22-2008, 08:36 PM
RB isn't really a huge need for the Jets, it's on the OL. We have two capable backs but a very unstable line to run behind. Better pick there would be Harvey IMO, fills more of a need and as you said could jump up. Keep an eye on Sed Elllis too if he shows he's capable of being a 3-4 NT down the road, some people think it's possible. I'm not convinced yet but it's worth looking at.

I'm aware, I just feel like there are no OLineman there worth the pick. Ryan Clady maybe, but he's a left tackle prospect, which you have in Ferguson already. I considered Harvey there, I think he's going to fly up boards. I also thought into Ellis at NT and even the crazy possibility that Kentwan Balmer raises his stock and is reached at, wouldn't be the first wild draft day move by New York. However, I felt McFadden could come in and ,more so than any of the other, make an impact and generate a buzz. Thomas Jones didn't look like the answer and Leon Washington is best suited for 6-8 carries a game added to his special teams time.

BaLLiN
01-22-2008, 10:07 PM
I have one problem with Curtis Lofton for the giants, he's an inside linebacker. Antonio pierce is overrated in my opinion (which really doesnt mean anything) but he's still doing a great job and as far as leader skills and being the play caller on Defense, drafting a ILB in the first isnt needed.

Id love to see Reggie Smith at 31

thebow305
01-22-2008, 10:48 PM
Perfect Miami pick! Great explanation as well. I feel the same way. Great job overall man!

imprint3454
01-22-2008, 10:55 PM
14. Chicago Bears – Andre Woodson – QB – Kentucky
-In the end, I don’t think the Bears make this pick. With Clady and Phillips off the board though, and no Safety or Left Tackle prospect in sight that would warrant this high a pick, it has to be QB where the Bears always seem to have a glaring weakness. Woodson has a tremendous arm that would probably do wonders for Bernard Berrian, and though he’s not a particularly accurate passer, he doesn’t turn the ball over much.Berrian is a free agent and is not expected to re-sign with the Bears.

Woodson: tremendous arm, not a particularly accurate passer=Same arm as Rex Grossman.

gdamac
01-23-2008, 03:08 AM
Al would take McFadden, IMO. But I would love Dorsey too.

jj45
01-23-2008, 06:48 AM
I understand the woodson pick, even parts of me wanted woodson, but that was before rashad enters the draft, our defense isn't getting younger, and we saw twice what a great back can do, mcfadden my be lt, but I see mendenhall at a shorter, peterson, or a really fast lynch, I hope the bears dont let him leave the state. I like orton, and we can trade for mcnabb, or sign anderson, the draft is deep at Oline ,and ob, but the elite backs stop at stewart.

ABWA757
01-23-2008, 06:52 AM
Good Bills Pick w/ great explaination..

DiG
01-23-2008, 07:38 AM
Thanks for the input and that's just about exactly what I was looking for when I posted at the top that I wasn't sure on a couple systematic fits.

No problem. I don't expect everyone to know everything about every teams system. The position makes sense. If there isn't clear gut value at DE then i'm looking at CB as the next best option for the skins in rd 1.

asmitty45
01-24-2008, 04:35 PM
McKelvin>Jenkins if youre going CB, but I'll take either happily