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darnik44two
01-27-2008, 11:51 AM
First Round

01 Miami Dolphins (1-15) - Sedrick Ellis, DT/NT, USC

02 St. Louis Rams (3-13) - Jake Long, OT Michigan

03 +Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU

04 +Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Darren McFadden, HB, Arkansas*

05 +Kansas City Chiefs (4-12) Chris Long, DE/OLB, Virginia

06 New York Jets (4-12) - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio State*

07 New England Patriots (from SF (5-11)) - Leodis McKelvin, CB/KR, Troy

08 Baltimore Ravens (5-11) - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College

09 Cincinnatti Bengals (7-9) Keith Rivers, OLB/ILB, USC

10 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State*

11 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Dan Connor, OLB/ILB, Penn State

12 Denver Broncos (7-9) - Kentwan Balmer, DT/DE, North Carolina

13 Carolina Panthers (7-9) - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh

14 Chicago Bears (7-9) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College

15 Detroit Lions (7-9) - Antoine Cason, CB/PR, Arizona

16 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Jonathan Stewert, HB, Oregon*

17 Minnesota Vikings (8-8) - Calais Campbell, DE, Miami*

18 Houston Texans (8-8) - Rashard Mendenhall, HB, Illinois*

19 Philadelphia Eagles (8-8) - Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan*

20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7) - Mike Jenkins, CB/PR, South Florida

21 Washington Redskins (9-7) Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma*

22 Dallas Cowboys (from CLE (10-6)) - Aqib Talib, CB/PR, Kansas*

23 Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6) Chris Williams, OT/OG, Vanderbilt

24 Tennessee Titans (10-6) - Fred Davis, TE, USC

25 Seattle Seahawks (10-6) - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami*

26 Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - DeSean Jackson, WR/KR, California

27 San Diego Chargers (11-5) - Reggie Smith, S/CB, Oklahoma*

28 Dallas Cowboys (13-3) - Felix Jones, HB, Arkansas*

29 San Francisco (from IND (13-3)) Dre Moore, DT/DE, Maryland

30 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Dom Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State

31 New York Giants (10-6) - Sam Baker, OT/OG, USC

32 New England Patriots (16-0) - FORFEIT


Second Round

33 Miami Dolphins (1-15) - Patrick Lee, CB, Auburn

34 St. Louis Rams (3-13) - Shawn Crable, OLB/DE, Michigan

35 +Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Pat Sims, DT/NT, Auburn*

36 +Kansas City Chiefs (4-12) Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State*

37 New York Jets (4-12) - DeMario Pressley, DT/DE, N.C. State

38 +Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville

39 Baltimore Ravens (5-11) - Phillip Merling, DE/OLB, Clemson*

40 San Francisco 49ers (5-11) Curtis Lofton, ILB, Oklahoma*

41 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame

42 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri

43 Denver Broncos (7-9) - Erin Henderson, OLB/ILB, Maryland*

44 Carolina Panthers (7-9) - Lawrence Jackson, DE/OLB, USC

45 Chicago Bears (7-9) - Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State

46 Detroit Lions (7-9) - Chevis Jackson, CB, LSU

47 Cincinnatti Bengals (7-9) Derrick Harvey, DE/OLB, Florida*

48 Minnesota Vikings (8-8) - Brandon Flowers, CB/S, Virginia Tech*

49 Atlanta Falcons (from HOU (8-8)) - Jamaal Charles, HB, Texas*

50 Philadelphia Eagles (8-8) - Charles Godfrey, CB/S, Iowa

51 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Quentin Groves, OLB/DE, Auburn

52 Washington Redskins (9-7) DaJuan Morgan, S, N.C. State*

53 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7) - Lavelle Hawkins, WR/KR, California

54 Cleveland Browns (10-6) - Marcus Harrison, DT/NT, Arkansas

55 Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6) - Limas Sweed, WR, Texas

56 Tennessee Titans (10-6) - Jonathan Goff, ILB, Vanderbilt

57 Seattle Seahawks (10-6) - Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A&M*

58 Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - Jerod Mayo, ILB/OLB, Tennessee*

59 Miami Dolphins (from SD (11-5)) Chilo Rachal, OG, USC

60 Dallas Cowboys (13-3) - Anthony Collins, OT/OG, Kansas*

61 Indianapolis Colts (13-3) - Roy Schuening, OG, Oregon State

62 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Spencer Larsen, OLB/ILB, Arizona

63 New York Giants (10-6) - Thomas DeCoud, S, California

64 New England Patriots (16-0) - Bruce Davis, OLB/DE,. UCLA


Third Round

65 Miami Dolphins (1-15) - Chad Henne, QB, Michigan

66 St. Louis Rams (3-13) - Kendall Langford, DE/DT, Hampton

67 +Kansas City Chiefs (4-12) Carl Nicks, OT/OG, Nebraska

68 New York Jets (4-12) - John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame

69 +Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Heath Benedict, OT/OG, Newberry

70 +New England Patriots (from OAK (4-12)) - Philip Wheeler, OLB/ILB, Georiga Tech

71 San Francisco 49ers (5-11) - Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville

72 Buffalo Bills (from BAL (5-11)) - Eric Young, OG/OT, Tennessee

73 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Terrell Thomas, CB, USC

74 Chicago Bears (7-9) - Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky

75 Detroit Lions (7-9) - Tavares Gooden, ILB, Miami

76 Cincinnatti Bengals (7-9) Letroy Guion, DT, Florida State*

77 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Ali Highsmith, OLB, LSU

78 Minnesota Vikings (from DEN (7-9)) - Jordon Dizon, OLB, Colorado

79 Carolina Panthers (7-9) - Jamie Silva, S, Boston College

80 Houston Texans (8-8) - Early Doucet, WR, LSU

81 Philadelphia Eagles (8-8) - Xavier Adibi, OLB/ILB, Virginia Tech

82 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Dwight Lowry, CB, San Jose State

83 Minnesota Vikings (8-8) - Donnie Avery, WR/KR, Houston

84 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7) - Ahtyba Rubin, DT/NT, Iowa State

85 Washington Redskins (9-7) Oniel Cousins, OT/OG, UTEP

86 Cleveland Browns (10-6) Chris Johnson, HB/KR, East Carolina

87 Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6) Kevin Smith, HB, Central Florida*

88 Tennessee Titans (10-6) - James Hardy, WR, Indiana*

89 Seattle Seahawks (10-6) - Matt Forte, HB, Tulane

90 Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - Chris Ellis, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech

91 Chicago Bears (from SD (11-5)) - Branden Albert, OG, Virginia

92 Dallas Cowboys (13-3) - Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State

93 Indianapolis Colts (13-3) Marcus Howard, DE/OLB, Georgia

94 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Peyton Hillis, FB, Arkansas

95 New York Giants (10-6) - Kevin Robinson, KR/WR, Utah State

96 New England Patriots (16-0) - Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame


BPA


Jack Ikegwuonu, CB, Wisconsin*
DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College
Earl Bennett, WR, Vanderbilt*
Mike Pollack, C/OG, Arizona State
Tashard Choice, HB, Georgia Tech
Ray Rice, HB, Rutgers*
Joe Flacco, QB, Delaware
Eddie Royal, WR/KR Virginia Tech
Geno Hayes, OLB, Florida State
Marcus Griffin, S, Texas
Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
Darrell Robertson, DE/OLB, Georgia Tech
Josh Barrett, S, Arizona State
Steve Slaton, HB, West Virginia*
Tony Hills, OT, Texas
Dexter Jackson, KR/WR, Appalacian State
Frank Okam, DT, Texas
Titus Brown, OLB/DE, Mississippi State
Adrian Arrington, WR, Michigan*
Jacob Hester, FB/HB, LSU
Ezra Butler, ILB/OLB, Nevada
Jonal Saint-Dic, DE, Michigan State
Beau Bell, OLB/ILB, UNLV
Wallace Gilberry, DE/OLB, Alabama
Wesley Woodyard, OLB/S, Kentucky
John David Booty, QB, USC
Cliff Avril, OLB/DE, Purdue
Vince Hall, ILB, Virginia Tech
Davone Bess, WR, Hawaii*
Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon
Mike Hart, HB, Michigan


01 Miami Dolphins (1-15) - Sedrick Ellis, DT/NT, USC
33 Miami Dolphins (1-15) - Patrick Lee, CB, Auburn
59 Miami Dolphins (from SD (11-5)) Chilo Rachal, OG, USC
65 Miami Dolphins (1-15) - Chad Henne, QB, Michigan

02 St. Louis Rams (3-13) - Jake Long, OT Michigan
34 St. Louis Rams (3-13) - Shawn Crable, OLB/DE, Michigan
66 St. Louis Rams (3-13) - Kendall Langford, DE/DT, Hampton

03 +Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
38 +Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
49 +Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Jamaal Charles, HB, Texas*
69 +Atlanta Falcons (4-12) - Heath Benedict, OT/OG, Newberry

04 +Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Darren McFadden, HB, Arkansas*
35 +Oakland Raiders (4-12) - Pat Sims, DT/NT, Auburn*

05 +Kansas City Chiefs (4-12) Chris Long, DE/OLB, Virginia
36 +Kansas City Chiefs (4-12) Devin Thomas, WR, Michigan State*
67 +Kansas City Chiefs (4-12) Carl Nicks, OT/OG, Nebraska

06 New York Jets (4-12) - Vernon Gholston, DE/OLB, Ohio State*
37 New York Jets (4-12) - DeMario Pressley, DT/DE, N.C. State
68 New York Jets (4-12) - John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame

29 San Francisco (from IND (13-3)) Dre Moore, DT/DE, Maryland
40 San Francisco 49ers (5-11) Curtis Lofton, ILB, Oklahoma*
71 San Francisco 49ers (5-11) - Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville

08 Baltimore Ravens (5-11) - Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
39 Baltimore Ravens (5-11) - Phillip Merling, DE/OLB, Clemson*

09 Cincinnatti Bengals (7-9) Keith Rivers, OLB/ILB, USC
47 Cincinnatti Bengals (7-9) Derrick Harvey, DE/OLB, Florida*
76 Cincinnatti Bengals (7-9) Letroy Guion, DT, Florida State*

10 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State*
41 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame
77 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Ali Highsmith, OLB, LSU

11 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Dan Connor, OLB/ILB, Penn State
42 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
72 Buffalo Bills (from BAL (5-11)) - Eric Young, OG/OT, Tennessee
73 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Terrell Thomas, CB, USC

12 Denver Broncos (7-9) - Kentwan Balmer, DT/DE, North Carolina
43 Denver Broncos (7-9) - Erin Henderson, OLB/ILB, Maryland*

13 Carolina Panthers (7-9) - Jeff Otah, OT, Pittsburgh
44 Carolina Panthers (7-9) - Lawrence Jackson, DE/OLB, USC
79 Carolina Panthers (7-9) - Jamie Silva, S, Boston College

14 Chicago Bears (7-9) - Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
45 Chicago Bears (7-9) - Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas State
74 Chicago Bears (7-9) - Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky
91 Chicago Bears (from SD (11-5)) - Branden Albert, OG, Virginia

15 Detroit Lions (7-9) - Antoine Cason, CB/PR, Arizona
46 Detroit Lions (7-9) - Chevis Jackson, CB, LSU
75 Detroit Lions (7-9) - Tavares Gooden, ILB, Miami

16 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Jonathan Stewert, HB, Oregon*
51 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Quentin Groves, OLB/DE, Auburn
82 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Dwight Lowry, CB, San Jose State

17 Minnesota Vikings (8-8) - Calais Campbell, DE, Miami*
48 Minnesota Vikings (8-8) - Brandon Flowers, CB/S, Virginia Tech*
78 Minnesota Vikings (from DEN (7-9)) - Jordon Dizon, OLB, Colorado
83 Minnesota Vikings (8-8) - Donnie Avery, WR/KR, Houston

18 Houston Texans (8-8) - Rashard Mendenhall, HB, Illinois*
80 Houston Texans (8-8) - Early Doucet, WR, LSU

19 Philadelphia Eagles (8-8) - Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan*
50 Philadelphia Eagles (8-8) - Charles Godfrey, CB/S, Iowa
81 Philadelphia Eagles (8-8) - Xavier Adibi, OLB/ILB, Virginia Tech

20 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7) - Mike Jenkins, CB/PR, South Florida
53 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7) - Lavelle Hawkins, WR/KR, California
84 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (9-7) - Ahtyba Rubin, DT/NT, Iowa State

21 Washington Redskins (9-7) Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma*
52 Washington Redskins (9-7) DaJuan Morgan, S, N.C. State*
85 Washington Redskins (9-7) Oniel Cousins, OT/OG, UTEP

54 Cleveland Browns (10-6) - Marcus Harrison, DT/NT, Arkansas
86 Cleveland Browns (10-6) Chris Johnson, HB/KR, East Carolina

23 Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6) Chris Williams, OT/OG, Vanderbilt
55 Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6) - Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
87 Pittsburgh Steelers (10-6) Kevin Smith, HB, Central Florida*

24 Tennessee Titans (10-6) - Fred Davis, TE, USC
56 Tennessee Titans (10-6) - Jonathan Goff, ILB, Vanderbilt
88 Tennessee Titans (10-6) - James Hardy, WR, Indiana*

25 Seattle Seahawks (10-6) - Kenny Phillips, S, Miami*
57 Seattle Seahawks (10-6) - Martellus Bennett, TE, Texas A&M*
89 Seattle Seahawks (10-6) - Matt Forte, HB, Tulane

26 Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - DeSean Jackson, WR/KR, California
58 Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - Jerod Mayo, ILB/OLB, Tennessee*
90 Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - Chris Ellis, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech

27 San Diego Chargers (11-5) - Reggie Smith, S/CB, Oklahoma*

22 Dallas Cowboys (from CLE (10-6)) - Aqib Talib, CB/PR, Kansas*
28 Dallas Cowboys (13-3) - Felix Jones, HB, Arkansas*
60 Dallas Cowboys (13-3) - Anthony Collins, OT/OG, Kansas*
92 Dallas Cowboys (13-3) - Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State

61 Indianapolis Colts (13-3) - Roy Schuening, OG, Oregon State
93 Indianapolis Colts (13-3) Marcus Howard, DE/OLB, Georgia

30 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Dom Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State
62 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Spencer Larsen, OLB/ILB, Arizona
94 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Peyton Hillis, FB, Arkansas

31 New York Giants (10-6) - Sam Baker, OT/OG, USC
63 New York Giants (10-6) - Thomas DeCoud, S, California
95 New York Giants (10-6) - Kevin Robinson, KR/WR, Utah State

07 New England Patriots (from SF (5-11)) - Leodis McKelvin, CB/KR, Troy
32 New England Patriots (16-0) - FORFEIT
64 New England Patriots (16-0) - Bruce Davis, OLB/DE,. UCLA
70 +New England Patriots (from OAK (4-12)) - Philip Wheeler, OLB/ILB, Georiga Tech
96 New England Patriots (16-0) - Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame

derza222
01-27-2008, 12:00 PM
Out of curiosity why Carlson over Nicks for the Jets? Nicks seems like a nice fit for what we need and protecting Clemens will probably be more important than giving him weapons at this point IMO. Beyond that, the starter Clemens has the best chemistry with is probably Chris Baker, our current starting TE. First two picks are solid...

T-RICH49
01-27-2008, 12:01 PM
for crying out loud STOP giving Chris Long to KC.Allen is not going anywhere.

this would be better

RD 1. Ryan Clady
RD 2. Charles Godfrey
RD 3. Oneil Cousins

Xiomera
01-27-2008, 12:01 PM
Two CB's for Detroit in the first two rounds.

Yes, we need two CB's but we won't be starting two rookies.

Give us Mike Jenkins and Derrick Harvey.

hugegmenfan
01-27-2008, 12:23 PM
very unimpressed with the giants draft...i dont think sam baker is a 1st rounder.

Vikes99ej
01-27-2008, 12:25 PM
The only good pick is the Campbell one. Why would we spend a third round pick on the position we have the most stability at?

Jay
01-27-2008, 12:26 PM
Pretty bad Pats mock.

Yung Flippa
01-27-2008, 12:55 PM
Okay 1st for the Ravens, I'd prefer Erin Henderson in round 2, but I'll take Merling. GOOD Texans draft.

G-Men88
01-27-2008, 12:58 PM
Not a fan of the Giants mock. We need to address DB in Round 1 IMO

darnik44two
01-27-2008, 01:26 PM
Not a fan of the Giants mock. We need to address DB in Round 1 IMO

Well just ponder this for a moment. In the first round the Giants get a versatile offensive linemen who can play 4 of the 5 offensive line positions. Because of some injuries during the season Baker was passed up by some other really good OT's, so the need/value works out really well here. A DB here would in some minds be a bit of a reach.

In the 2nd round you fill a need and again get pretty good value in Cal safety Thomas DeCoud. DeCoud had a good Senior Bowl week and proved he can step in immediatly and cover the slot while he's being groomed to start at safety.

In the 3rd you arguably the best return man in the draft and a guy who can be a pretty good slot receiver. It won't be long before Steve Smith is the #2 across from Burress and you'll need a guy in the slot.

Sound any better now? It seems like a sensible draft for a team that is already good. Similar to the Patriots they can start adding role players who in the end make all the difference in the world.

Ewing
01-27-2008, 01:30 PM
Outstanding. I wasn't sold on Davis in the first until you showed me Hardy in the third. That's perfect. Plus, we get a great MLB in Goff, something we've needed for awhile.

Bills2083
01-27-2008, 01:30 PM
No WR for Buffalo? Why?

darnik44two
01-27-2008, 01:38 PM
No WR for Buffalo? Why?

4th Round: Eddie Royal, WR/KR Virginia Tech

and you get the next Antonio Gates in the 2nd round.

Like it now?

Rich Jr
01-27-2008, 01:40 PM
Arguably one of the worst mocks i've seen for the Saints

darnik44two
01-27-2008, 01:43 PM
Arguably one of the worst mocks i've seen for the Saints

Why? Because no CB? Deep class.

4th Round: Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana

Rich Jr
01-27-2008, 02:02 PM
Why? Because no CB? Deep class.

4th Round: Tracy Porter, CB, IndianaNo, OT int he 1st? I don't care we need defense. LB, CB, DT. We don't need an OT. Stinch isn't the best but he's good enough to start.

Trevor Laws? Never been high on this guy and i'm not the only one.

2nd round Chevis Jackson or Brandon Flowers.

We also need a WR, we only have 2 under contract.

Round 3, love the pick.

KCJ58
01-27-2008, 02:04 PM
give us Gholston or Doresy or Chris Long is off the board, we can get a good O-Linemen in the 2nd round

doingthisinsteadofwork
01-27-2008, 02:11 PM
Itd be interesting to see who Al would choose if he had both McFadden and Long still on the board when he picked.I think hed take Long over McFadden.Good Oakland draft.

indyfan1985
01-27-2008, 02:23 PM
Great 2nd round pick for Indy. Dont know much about Howard, but if he can bring great pressure off the edge, we'll take him.

Thunder&Lightning
01-27-2008, 03:37 PM
good chargers pick want cromartie though, i think he will be great

the Laos
01-27-2008, 04:49 PM
kenny phillips in the first, limas sweed in the second, and brandon albert and jason jones in the third.

Jakey
01-27-2008, 04:57 PM
OK Steelers draft...i love the first 2 picks, but Kevin Smith is a similar player to Gary Russell, so that would be a wasted pick IMO

etk
01-27-2008, 05:04 PM
Good 1st 2 rounds. Rubin doesn't make sense for the Cover 2. I'd go with Wallace Gilberry there.

defensiveback23
01-27-2008, 05:04 PM
Solid Chargers pick. I really like Rodgers-Cromartie, but I can't argue against taking Smith.

Diehard
01-27-2008, 09:41 PM
12 Denver Broncos (7-9) - Kentwan Balmer, DT/DE, North Carolina

I don't like the value at all. He isn't even close to being in the same league as Dorsey or Ellis. Sure, he's the popular pick to rocket up the draft board, but that's hype, not substance.

Do the Broncos need at DT? Yes. Do the Broncos need to burn the best draft pick they've had in a while on a reach? No ******* way.

thebow305
01-27-2008, 10:14 PM
The first two Phins picks are good, but the second two suck! The guard position obviously, it's your preference Vs. mine, but Albert, Young, Nicks, and Cousins all seem to be unanimously ranked higher than Rachal and I feel that all would be better picks there instead. Now the Chad Henne pick is just baffling, not only do we not need a new QB, but we passed on possibly the best prospect at the QB position in the draft in Andre Woodson. Having Woodson in the 3rd is disgraceful and just downright foolish, there's absolutely no way he falls that far and that's a guarantee! (unless of course he gets injured or something before the draft). Langford, Carlson, Gooden, or Wheeler would all be better picks there IMO. darnik, I enjoy your mocks because there are usually a little more creative, but they can also leave me scratching my head sometimes.

Tampa 2 4 life
01-27-2008, 10:23 PM
1st Round - Tampa 2 teams don't draft CBs in the 1st round. I do love Jenkins though...

2nd Round - Intriguing, but I'd rather have a speed guy like Avery or Thomas.

3rd Round - Rubin in a cover two? eh...

Scotty D
01-27-2008, 10:23 PM
Interesting Lions draft. Two corners in the first two rounds. I love Chevis Jackson as a prospect for our scheme. I can't help but notice that Harvey goes one pick after our second rounder. Cason, Harvey, Gooden would be a nice haul. But we will be looking for two CB starters this year so I'm not sure. Lots of options.

Edit - If you tacked on a fourth I think that Slaton would be a nice combo with Duckett.

SuperMcGee
01-27-2008, 10:29 PM
4th Round: Eddie Royal, WR/KR Virginia Tech

and you get the next Antonio Gates in the 2nd round.

Like it now?

Connor, Rucker, and Thomas are a good set of picks, I really like all of those players, but I'd rather just take Doucet in the 3rd over Young. I really don't like Royal in the 4th + Young as much as I would one of the other available WR in the 3rd + whoever in the 4th.

rockio42
01-27-2008, 11:13 PM
I don't mind the Rams draft but it could be better, mainly because Crable and Langford arent made for our system, and even though Gholston doesn't either i'd rather have a physical marvel like him in the first rather than Long

darnik44two
01-27-2008, 11:32 PM
The first two Phins picks are good, but the second two suck! The guard position obviously, it's your preference Vs. mine, but Albert, Young, Nicks, and Cousins all seem to be unanimously ranked higher than Rachal and I feel that all would be better picks there instead. Now the Chad Henne pick is just baffling, not only do we not need a new QB, but we passed on possibly the best prospect at the QB position in the draft in Andre Woodson. Having Woodson in the 3rd is disgraceful and just downright foolish, there's absolutely no way he falls that far and that's a guarantee! (unless of course he gets injured or something before the draft). Langford, Carlson, Gooden, or Wheeler would all be better picks there IMO. darnik, I enjoy your mocks because there are usually a little more creative, but they can also leave me scratching my head sometimes.

Andre Woodson caught the scouts off guard this week at the Senior Bowl. Most believe (including myself) that he was alot better than he actually is. The phrase "system QB" is now being used in the same sentence as Andre Woodson. His biggest knock leading up the Senior Bowl week was his accuracy issues. Well, he lived up to that hype. Along with his accuracy issues he has a hitch in his motion and his footwork is a long way from being at an NFL level. With not a lot of teams looking for QB's, and the obvious lack of solid round one talent expect to see QB's get pushed down. I just don't see many teams eager to spend high picks on this years QB's Especially given the fact next years crop (with some UC's) should be much better.

As for the Henne pick. He's been impressive and would be a good value. I see no guarantee that Miami has a reliable QB. From everything I've hear neither does Parcells. Even if Beck is the guy, you need a reliable backup. I think it would be a huge mistake to not atleast give Beck some competition in camp and have him or someone else earn the job. If Henne makes Beck a better QB because of the competition that makes the pick great. Two second round QB's still come alot cheaper than 1 high first round QB.

Chilo Rachal is considered the #1 OG prospect by a lot of people. The advantage he has on Benedict, Nicks, and Cousins is the fact he played OG in college. There would be a lot less of a learning curve with him. Bottom line, he started for USC. That means he can play. Unfortunatly for him he's only a junior so he couldn't compete at the Senior Bowl. He'll be at the combine and will impress. I was surprised he came out because he could have been a top 50 pick next year and maybe a late first round pick.

I just try to get these things accurate. When's the last time a draft went down the way it was expected to?

Some day 2 prospects I have in mind to go with this draft for the Dolphins.

Round 4
Ezra Butler, ILB/OLB, Nevada

Round 6
Lionel Dotson, DT/DE, Arizona/Chris Harrington, DE, Texas A&M

Round 7
Jabari Arthur, WR, Akron (Big time sleeper similar to Marques Colston)

Atleast make any more sense now? Also remember, the Dolphins will probably be busy in free agency. Joey Porter is probably already on the phone with Alan Faneca and Max Starks. Bryant Johnson and Asante Samuel should be targets and also maybe Lance Briggs to play ILB.

Geo
01-27-2008, 11:41 PM
Glad to see you finally stopped with the McFadden to the Dolphins nonsense.

Though I'm not a fan of the Colts' picks in the least, quite honestly.

DChess
01-27-2008, 11:57 PM
i like the browns picks. im meh on the rest of it

darnik44two
01-28-2008, 12:02 AM
Glad to see you finally stopped with the McFadden to the Dolphins nonsense.

Though I'm not a fan of the Colts' picks in the least, quite honestly.

McFadden might still be in play for the Dolphins. My non-sense pick last year was Levi Brown to the Cardinals.

G-Men88
01-28-2008, 12:24 AM
Well just ponder this for a moment. In the first round the Giants get a versatile offensive linemen who can play 4 of the 5 offensive line positions. Because of some injuries during the season Baker was passed up by some other really good OT's, so the need/value works out really well here. A DB here would in some minds be a bit of a reach.

In the 2nd round you fill a need and again get pretty good value in Cal safety Thomas DeCoud. DeCoud had a good Senior Bowl week and proved he can step in immediatly and cover the slot while he's being groomed to start at safety.

In the 3rd you arguably the best return man in the draft and a guy who can be a pretty good slot receiver. It won't be long before Steve Smith is the #2 across from Burress and you'll need a guy in the slot.

Sound any better now? It seems like a sensible draft for a team that is already good. Similar to the Patriots they can start adding role players who in the end make all the difference in the world.

I just don't like the idea of taking an OL in the first 2 rounds, its not a big need for the giants as we have one of the best units in the league. I like Decoud and think he would be a good pick in this situation. Our WR in the slot is going to be Sinorice Moss. Jury is still out on him as he played for the first time this season and did not do a bad job when he was in.

Overall I think the word to describe the Giants draft would be disappointed because most of our targets are picked ahead of us.

Caddy
01-28-2008, 12:32 AM
Probably the best Buccaneers mock draft that you've made so far. Although I still hate passing on Desean.

darnik44two
01-28-2008, 12:39 AM
I just don't like the idea of taking an OL in the first 2 rounds, its not a big need for the giants as we have one of the best units in the league. I like Decoud and think he would be a good pick in this situation. Our WR in the slot is going to be Sinorice Moss. Jury is still out on him as he played for the first time this season and did not do a bad job when he was in.

Overall I think the word to describe the Giants draft would be disappointed because most of our targets are picked ahead of us.

I did actually forget about Moss, although maybe for a good reason. The OL is good and the way for years to come is to keep it that way is to bring in young talent for depth initially and later as a starter. Baker's going to be a valuble guy for whoever gets him. There's a good chance he won't be there anyways.

DiG
01-28-2008, 12:56 AM
cb is a much bigger need for the skins than safety.

johbur
01-28-2008, 12:59 AM
16 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Jonathan Stewert, HB, Oregon*
51 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Quentin Groves, OLB/DE, Auburn
82 Arizona Cardinals (8-8) - Dwight Lowry, CB, San Jose State

30 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Dom Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee State
62 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Spencer Larsen, OLB/ILB, Arizona
94 Green Bay Packers (13-3) - Peyton Hillis, FB, Arkansas

Great overall draft with a lot of work put in. Hot AZ draft with nice picks at needed spots.

I would be quite pleased if Dom is there given his Senior Bowl week performance. I love Spencer Larsen, but he's been a MLB and a whip linebacker in the double-eagle flex for the U of A and he's not going to replace Nick Barnett. The real question is whether he's better in coverage than Brady Poppinga, which I'm not sure if he is. Like Pop, he's spent time overseas on a mission and comes into the league at 24 years old. Why would GB waste a 3rd rounder on a FB? They drafted a 10 game starter last year in the 6th round, plus picked up a guy who blocked very well in the playoffs and in the games Hall was out. If they used the FB spot to run from, maybe, but I just don't see a need for a third round FB when I would be happy if no running backs or full backs are drafted at all by GB in 2008. For GB, a bad day 1, even with Dom.

darnik44two
01-28-2008, 07:58 AM
Great overall draft with a lot of work put in. Hot AZ draft with nice picks at needed spots.

I would be quite pleased if Dom is there given his Senior Bowl week performance. I love Spencer Larsen, but he's been a MLB and a whip linebacker in the double-eagle flex for the U of A and he's not going to replace Nick Barnett. The real question is whether he's better in coverage than Brady Poppinga, which I'm not sure if he is. Like Pop, he's spent time overseas on a mission and comes into the league at 24 years old. Why would GB waste a 3rd rounder on a FB? They drafted a 10 game starter last year in the 6th round, plus picked up a guy who blocked very well in the playoffs and in the games Hall was out. If they used the FB spot to run from, maybe, but I just don't see a need for a third round FB when I would be happy if no running backs or full backs are drafted at all by GB in 2008. For GB, a bad day 1, even with Dom.

I know the Hillis pick is a bit questionable. My only thought there is he would add a new dimention to the offense. Whoever gets Hillis is going to get a guy who can contribute in countless way. Chances are he'll wind up with a team that is already good and can afford a luxury type pick.

Maybe one of these players would be better in the 2nd

Carl Nicks, OT/OG, Nebraska

John Carlson, TE, Notre Dame

Heath Benedict, OT/OG, Newberry

Philip Wheeler

Maybe take Jack Ikegwuonu in the 3rd even though he'll be out all of next year?

darnik44two
01-28-2008, 08:00 AM
cb is a much bigger need for the skins than safety.

So you want Terrell Thomas over DaJuan Morgan?

DiG
01-28-2008, 08:20 AM
So you want Terrell Thomas over DaJuan Morgan?

id take Jack Ikegwuonu or Porter over Thomas.

darnik44two
01-28-2008, 11:20 AM
id take Jack Ikegwuonu or Porter over Thomas.

So you think Jack Ikegwuonu is worth a 2nd round pick even though he's out for the entire '08 season? Hard to say if he'll ever get back to his full potential. He might, but might not. Also, you don't think grabbing a safety "while the gettin's good," and take advantage of the deep CB class and take one later? I have Porter graded as a 3rd rounder who likely falls to the 4th.

asmitty45
01-28-2008, 12:19 PM
Poor Lions draft, cason is bad value but Pos is right.

Chevis Jackson is probably a 4-5th right now, but I like Gooden.

darnik44two
01-28-2008, 12:23 PM
Poor Lions draft, cason is bad value but Pos is right.

Chevis Jackson is probably a 4-5th right now, but I like Gooden.

Cason is my #1 CB. What's your evaluation on him? What do you like/dislike about him?

Wrong on Jackson. He's pretty much a solid 2nd round pick and I wouldn't rule out a team taking him in the first.

asmitty45
01-28-2008, 12:34 PM
Cason is my #1 CB. What's your evaluation on him? What do you like/dislike about him?

Wrong on Jackson. He's pretty much a solid 2nd round pick and I wouldn't rule out a team taking him in the first.

I put cason 4th on my list right now behind Jenkins, DRC, and McKelvin. Interesting as a Special Teams (KR/PR) guy, but he's much better in man coverage then zone, so he's not a great fit for the lions.

Jackson will have to have a good combine to jump solidly into the 2nd for me. I guess the NFL has a bit of an LSU fetish taking players higher than they should go (Buster Davis - Chargers 30 overall) but I think these small school prospects will shove him into the 3rd. Just me though, everyone evaluates differently.

Jensen
01-28-2008, 01:04 PM
Give the Cardinals Kenny Phillips in the 1st. I love Stewart, but Phillips would fill a bigger need while making a lethal safety duo with Wilson.

rockio42
01-28-2008, 01:05 PM
i like the bucs overall mock...mike jenkins is great value at that point, as is lavelle hawkins, but my only problem is rubin...who isnt a good guy for the 4-3,espcially the cover 2, and would rather have Chris Ellis who went just a couple picks after him

darnik44two
01-28-2008, 01:38 PM
Give the Cardinals Kenny Phillips in the 1st. I love Stewart, but Phillips would fill a bigger need while making a lethal safety duo with Wilson.

Word is the scouts aren't overly impressed with Phillips. I expect him to be in the mix after the combine though. He was given a 2nd round grade by the advisory committee and wasn't even spoke of by Mike Mayock. He's still my #1 safety and I fully expect him to be a first round pick, it just doesn't look like he's going as high as expected. We'll see, the combine can change alot.

Slaughterhasit
01-30-2008, 12:34 PM
I knew you were a steelers fan when you took sweed in the second... you are a dreamer...

gdamac
01-30-2008, 02:36 PM
Great Raider picks

jdcozart
01-31-2008, 12:29 PM
Home run with the Packer's first pick. It fills a big need and the Packers are rumored to love this kid. I think you really missed with the next two though. LB isn't as big a need and the Packers have a rookie fullback that did a nice job this year. Next mock you might try an O-lineman or S in the next rounds.

Menardo75
01-31-2008, 10:42 PM
Pretty decent 9ers mock i don't know about taking WR in the 3rd round anymore since we don't play them

BeerBaron
01-31-2008, 10:44 PM
wont complain about the bears picks.....

diabsoule
02-01-2008, 12:33 AM
Don't like the first pick for the Saints.
Second round pick is eh.
Third round pick is awesome.

ABWA757
02-01-2008, 07:45 AM
11 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Dan Connor, OLB/ILB, Penn State A+
42 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri C-( much rather have Carlson)
72 Buffalo Bills (from BAL (5-11)) - Eric Young, OG/OT, Tennessee B
73 Buffalo Bills (7-9) - Terrell Thomas, CB, USC C (James Hardy would be a better pick here)

Not a bad 1 overall though B-

darnik44two
02-02-2008, 09:34 AM
Don't like the first pick for the Saints.
Second round pick is eh.
Third round pick is awesome.

Yeah I gotta think most Saints fans would love Highsmith in the 3rd. I really think this Saints draft adding maybe Tracy Porter (CB) in the 4th or take a flyer on Jack Ikegwuonu would be a terrific draft. Clady in the 1st would give them a solid set of tackles and address the depth issues at OT as well. I know OT's aren't the sexiest of picks, especially in the top 10.

10 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State*
41 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Trevor Laws, DT, Notre Dame
77 New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Ali Highsmith, OLB, LSU
4th New Orleans Saints (7-9) - Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana

Rich Jr
02-02-2008, 09:37 AM
Yeah I gotta think most Saints fans would love Highsmith in the 3rd. I really think this Saints draft adding maybe Tracy Porter (CB) in the 4th or take a flyer on Jack Ikegwuonu would be a terrific draft. Clady in the 1st would give them a solid set of tackles and address the depth issues at OT as well. I know OT's aren't the sexiest of picks, especially in the top 10.

Saints Oline depth is sort of underrated.

Matthew Jones
02-02-2008, 09:38 AM
Rivers would be better than McKelvin but still a solid Pats mock, love the Zbikowski/Wheeler picks.