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04-14-2006, 05:29 PM
because of this rule, my mavs are going to get screwed over. And today I read in the paper that David Stern's dumb self didn't see any reason as to why he should change the current playoff seeding format.Basically If you don't win your division, you don't get one of the 3 top seeds. You could have the second best record in your conference, but if the best is in your division, the best seeding you can get is a #4 seed

slightlyaraiderfan
04-14-2006, 05:31 PM
Well maybe they should win their division.

04-14-2006, 05:33 PM
Well maybe they should win their division.

still,we're 1.5 games behind and this stupid rule is going to screw us over while we win 60 games for some team that is barely above .500

slightlyaraiderfan
04-14-2006, 05:34 PM
There has to be a reward the for teams that win their own division.

CGF 216/137
04-14-2006, 05:36 PM
If you play in a much tougher division your record will be worse than the one good team in another division, probable, thus a division winner should get a top 3 seed. In hockey thie was clear about 5 years ago when Washington was the only good team in their division, they would always have a ton of points while teams from the other, more competitive, divisions would suffer and not have such great records. Thus their division winner could be much better than Washington and still have less points. This applies to divisions with only 2 good teams aswell, not sayin that is the case but that is the rationale for the rule.

04-14-2006, 05:36 PM
There has to be a reward the for teams that win their own division.

look at the western conference seedings and records and tell me if that is fair.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings

John Basedow
04-14-2006, 05:36 PM
Well maybe they should win their division.

There has to be a reward the for teams that win their own division.

04-14-2006, 05:37 PM
Well maybe they should win their division.

There has to be a reward the for teams that win their own division.


FRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

slightlyaraiderfan
04-14-2006, 05:37 PM
There has to be a reward the for teams that win their own division.

look at the western conference seedings and records and tell me if that is fair.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings

Looks good to me.

04-14-2006, 05:38 PM
There has to be a reward the for teams that win their own division.

look at the western conference seedings and records and tell me if that is fair.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings

Looks good to me.

we've got 15 more wins than Denver and 7 more than Pheonix, and they both happen to be in frail divisions, while we are in possibly the toughest division and they get a higher seeding.

CGF 216/137
04-14-2006, 05:41 PM
all i heard was ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch ***** *****

04-14-2006, 05:43 PM
all i heard was ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** ***** biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitch ***** *****

of course, That's exactly what I'm doing

John Basedow
04-14-2006, 05:44 PM
Is C-syll or whatever Cartmanclone?

04-14-2006, 05:45 PM
Is C-syll or whatever Cartmanclone?

yeah

John Basedow
04-14-2006, 05:49 PM
Is C-syll or whatever Cartmanclone?

yeah
CARTMANCLONE11111111111111111111111111111 We have finally reunited via nfdc. This is a special moment.

Brent
04-14-2006, 05:50 PM
you know what? I'm a Mavs fan and I will tell you this: You cant ***** all you want but it doesnt change a thing. The Mavs still lost to the a few times and had they not lost those few times over the course of the season they would be ahead of the Spurs. There isnt a reason the Mavs should lose the Warriors... EVER. The Mavs even lost to the BUCKS once.... THE BUCKS! I have seen every game so far this year; the Mavs lost games to teams they should have beaten. No one is a great rebounder and the Mavs centers are terrible. Until the Mavs get a good center they are going to continue coming in second to the Spurs.

P-L
04-14-2006, 05:51 PM
C-Syll does have a point. I mean the Mavs have a 14.5 game lead on the Nuggets who will be ranked higher than them. But the rule shouldn't be changed as this doesn't happen very often.

04-14-2006, 05:52 PM
Is C-syll or whatever Cartmanclone?

yeah
CARTMANCLONE11111111111111111111111111111 We have finally reunited via nfdc. This is a special moment.

yay, when were you allowed back. Let the world know about your return

04-14-2006, 05:53 PM
you know what? I'm a Mavs fan and I will tell you this: You cant *********** all you want but it doesnt change a thing. The Mavs still lost to the a few times and had they not lost those few times over the course of the season they would be ahead of the Spurs. There isnt a reason the Mavs should lose the Warriors... EVER. The Mavs even lost to the BUCKS once.... THE BUCKS! I have seen every game so far this year; the Mavs lost games to teams they should have beaten. No one is a great rebounder and the Mavs centers are terrible. Until the Mavs get a good center they are going to continue coming in second to the Spurs.

we still won 59 games this year, and that is better than the 44 win Denver nuggets. Stuffl ike that happens, I believe the Spurs have lost to Atlanta twice these last two years

04-14-2006, 05:53 PM
C-Syll does have a point. I mean the Mavs have a 14.5 game lead on the Nuggets who will be ranked higher than them. But the rule shouldn't be changed as this doesn't happen very often.

it happened last year, when we had the second best record in the league

04-14-2006, 05:58 PM
They should rank them by the number of wins and not who wins the division. Luckily no teams I care about are affected by this. If all it does is ruin the Mavs chances every year then let the system be.

Namy
04-14-2006, 06:41 PM
C-Syll does have a point. I mean the Mavs have a 14.5 game lead on the Nuggets who will be ranked higher than them. But the rule shouldn't be changed as this doesn't happen very often.

it happened last year, when we had the second best record in the league
Last year does not affirm "very often". Pheonix and Denver are by the way better than Dallas if they had a healthy team in my honest OPINION. They just happened to be plagued by injuries. Also, like one poster said, there has to be a reward for winning the division.

Btw... SEEDING IS OVERRATED. It does not guarantee home court advantage... only the opponents faced. Since your Mavs have the second best record in the West, it shouldn't matter who you guys face anyways right because you'll have homecourt advantage over everybody except the Spurs or Pistons? Also, this is the playoffs. EVENTUALLY, everyone will be playing the best of the previous series. There is only ONE winner after the playoffs. And that one winning team will be the BEST team. Thus, who cares who you face. If you lose early in the playoffs, you don't deserve the championship crown anyways.

Besides, home court advantage is determined by wins anyways, so what does it matter. If the Mavs somehow manage to meet Denver or Pheonix in the playoffs, they will have the home court advantage.

04-14-2006, 06:44 PM
C-Syll does have a point. I mean the Mavs have a 14.5 game lead on the Nuggets who will be ranked higher than them. But the rule shouldn't be changed as this doesn't happen very often.

it happened last year, when we had the second best record in the league
Last year does not affirm "very often". Pheonix and Denver are by the way better than Dallas if they had a healthy team in my honest OPINION. They just happened to be plagued by injuries. Also, like one poster said, there has to be a reward for winning the division.

Btw... SEEDING IS OVERRATED. It does not guarantee home court advantage... only the opponents faced. Since your Mavs have the second best record in the West, it shouldn't matter who you guys face anyways right because you'll have homecourt advantage over everybody except the Spurs or Pistons? Also, this is the playoffs. EVENTUALLY, everyone will be playing the best of the previous series. There is only ONE winner after the playoffs. And that one winning team will be the BEST team. Thus, who cares who you face. If you lose early in the playoffs, you don't deserve the championship crown anyways.

Besides, home court advantage is determined by wins anyways, so what does it matter. If the Mavs somehow manage to meet Denver or Pheonix in the playoffs, they will have the home court advantage.

1.First that must be the biggest homerism I have ever seen

2.Seeding makes it so that we have less memorable games later in teh playoffs, like dallas meeting the Spurs in the second round rather than in the conference finals

P-L
04-14-2006, 06:44 PM
:roll: at the Nuggets being better than the Mavs...

04-14-2006, 07:10 PM
Thats just the way the cookie crumbles. In the East, there could be as many as four playoff teams with losing records. Meanwhile, in the West, the Kings, Jazz, and Hornets could all finish above .500 and only one of them gets in. Is that fair?

04-14-2006, 09:41 PM
:roll: at the Nuggets being better than the Mavs...

you know it

Namy
04-15-2006, 12:11 AM
:roll: at the Nuggets being better than the Mavs...

you know it
Let's put this into perspective, shall we?

Two of Dallas' victories against Denver were super close, and in both of those games that they lost closely, Denver didnt have their full healthy roster. In their first matchup of the season, Denver had an 18 point lead in the late third, before they got lazy and lost the game. In their second matchup, Denver had a mental collapse in OT, which had cost them the game. The third mathcup, Denver owned Dallas, while I will admit that you guys destroyed us in the last matchup.

Factor in that Dallas DOES NOT MATCH UP WELL with Denver's style, speed, and agressiveness, and Dallas could lose to a HEALTHY Denver team that has rarely seen Kenyon Martin, Marcus Camby, Eduardo Najera, Earl Boykins (recently), and Nene (whole season) on the court simultaenously.

I didn't say that Denver right now is better than Dallas. I said "when healthy" they are better. If you can't see that, then you honestly must not have watched the Dallas-Denver games. Dallas may have a better record, but the record is deceiving in that Denver was injury plagued the whole season, and that Denver simply matches up well against Dallas. I honestly wouldn't mind playing Dallas in the playoffs.

04-15-2006, 01:29 AM
:roll: at the Nuggets being better than the Mavs...

you know it
Let's put this into perspective, shall we?

Two of Dallas' victories against Denver were super close, and in both of those games that they lost closely, Denver didnt have their full healthy roster. In their first matchup of the season, Denver had an 18 point lead in the late third, before they got lazy and lost the game. In their second matchup, Denver had a mental collapse in OT, which had cost them the game. The third mathcup, Denver owned Dallas, while I will admit that you guys destroyed us in the last matchup.

Factor in that Dallas DOES NOT MATCH UP WELL with Denver's style, speed, and agressiveness, and Dallas could lose to a HEALTHY Denver team that has rarely seen Kenyon Martin, Marcus Camby, Eduardo Najera, Earl Boykins (recently), and Nene (whole season) on the court simultaenously.

I didn't say that Denver right now is better than Dallas. I said "when healthy" they are better. If you can't see that, then you honestly must not have watched the Dallas-Denver games. Dallas may have a better record, but the record is deceiving in that Denver was injury plagued the whole season, and that Denver simply matches up well against Dallas. I honestly wouldn't mind playing Dallas in the playoffs.


Dallas has had injury after injury as well. Injuries happen in the NBA its the teams that survive them and don't count on 1 or 2 players to make them great that win.

Namy
04-15-2006, 04:54 PM
:roll: at the Nuggets being better than the Mavs...

you know it
Let's put this into perspective, shall we?

Two of Dallas' victories against Denver were super close, and in both of those games that they lost closely, Denver didnt have their full healthy roster. In their first matchup of the season, Denver had an 18 point lead in the late third, before they got lazy and lost the game. In their second matchup, Denver had a mental collapse in OT, which had cost them the game. The third mathcup, Denver owned Dallas, while I will admit that you guys destroyed us in the last matchup.

Factor in that Dallas DOES NOT MATCH UP WELL with Denver's style, speed, and agressiveness, and Dallas could lose to a HEALTHY Denver team that has rarely seen Kenyon Martin, Marcus Camby, Eduardo Najera, Earl Boykins (recently), and Nene (whole season) on the court simultaenously.

I didn't say that Denver right now is better than Dallas. I said "when healthy" they are better. If you can't see that, then you honestly must not have watched the Dallas-Denver games. Dallas may have a better record, but the record is deceiving in that Denver was injury plagued the whole season, and that Denver simply matches up well against Dallas. I honestly wouldn't mind playing Dallas in the playoffs.


Dallas has had injury after injury as well. Injuries happen in the NBA its the teams that survive them and don't count on 1 or 2 players to make them great that win.
Injury after injury? I remember Howard getting injured for a few games and Harris for about 15 games, but nothing else really. Please give me a list of their injuries if I'm wrong.

The Nuggets on the other hand have played all season without Nene, and practically half the season w/o Kenyon Martin or Marcus Camby or neither on the court. Najera, a key component to last year's defense for the Nuggets has been injured for numerous games as well.

Injuries happen in the NBA, but some teams have a lot more than others.

the teams that survive them and don't count on 1 or 2 players to make them great that win.
This may be the stupidest argument I've seen. Name one team where you take their star player(s) out and can survive the playoffs or still win about 55+ games or so. I'd like to see how you guys fair w/o Nowitzki and Terry for half the season. How Pheonix would go w/o Nash. How would the Pistons be w/o Billups and Hamilton? What about Miami without Wade and Shaq? The Spurs w/o Parker and Duncan?