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PACKmanN
08-08-2007, 11:03 AM
ok who do you guys think would have made the better pro WR, Terrence Murphy or Greg Jennings? IMO I think Murphy because of his speed and jumping ability.

princefielder28
08-08-2007, 11:07 AM
ok who do you guys think would have made the better pro WR, Terrence Murphy or Greg Jennings? IMO I think Murphy because of his speed and jumping ability.

Terrence Murphy; if he didn't get hurt we would not have Greg Jennings on our team. He was a terrific athlete that was not only a threat in the passing game but in special teams as well. It's unfortunate that an injury ended his career so soon, and we never got a chance to see how good he really could've been.

neko4
08-08-2007, 11:11 AM
Isnt he back (Murhpy)?
Nevermind
He is currently helping coach wide receivers and kick returners at Trinity Valley Community College in Athens, Texas.

GB12
08-08-2007, 12:30 PM
http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070807/PKR01/70807205/1989

Uh o GB12.
I'm not worried. I have said that it wouldn't surprise me to see Manuel keep it for this year.

Boston
08-08-2007, 11:58 PM
Every time I hear someone mention Jenkins, I have to stop and think, get my head around Geoff Jenkins, Michael Jenkins, etc. until I finally remember Cullen Jenkins. Damn baseball, not worth a thing.

TitleTown088
08-09-2007, 02:19 AM
Every time I hear someone mention Jenkins, I have to stop and think, get my head around Geoff Jenkins, Michael Jenkins, etc. until I finally remember Cullen Jenkins. Damn baseball, not worth a thing. Cullen will be worth a thing. He'll be a stud this year.

cuzifelt1ikeit
08-09-2007, 02:49 PM
you guys say that if terrence was healthy we would not have taken jennings. while i dont find that all that true because did we not draft jones and clowney this year?

think how good we couldve been to have all three (murph, jennings and jones). they all have good potential

jackalope
08-09-2007, 05:27 PM
I'll be going to watch practice next Thursday. It'll be my first time in awhile.

Hawk
08-09-2007, 11:43 PM
interesting to see how the team was built and how young we really are

http://www.packers.com/team/how_built/

look at all the solid starters we got from the Sherman era, compared to the starters we have already from TT

TitleTown088
08-10-2007, 02:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaKeW0mf3PE&mode=related&search=

Watch at 2:10 and pay attention to what they say about Sharper, that's hilarious.

Paul
08-10-2007, 07:19 PM
Meant to ask this earlier, but what do you guys think of Joey Thomas. The Boy's signed him in the offseason, and he looked pretty good in the first preseason game. What should we expect from him?

princefielder28
08-10-2007, 07:23 PM
Meant to ask this earlier, but what do you guys think of Joey Thomas. The Boy's signed him in the offseason, and he looked pretty good in the first preseason game. What should we expect from him?

A small school product with alot of success in college. Sherman drafted him on what his potential could have been and what his track record already was. He has the ability to be a solid nickel or dime corner in the NFL, but nothing more than that.

jackalope
08-10-2007, 07:25 PM
Meant to ask this earlier, but what do you guys think of Joey Thomas. The Boy's signed him in the offseason, and he looked pretty good in the first preseason game. What should we expect from him?Thomas was very unimpressive in Green Bay. Don't expect much from him. He probably won't make the team, but I don't really know what Dallas' CB situation is.

EDIT: If I remember right, part of the reason he was cut was because he had gotten into some fights with other players (I know him and Carrol didn't get along).

Paul
08-10-2007, 07:28 PM
Thomas was very unimpressive in Green Bay. Don't expect much from him. He probably won't make the team, but I don't really know what Dallas' CB situation is.

We pretty much got our top 4 guys set with Newman, Henry, Glenn and Nate Jones. But I like and Thomas' size and he played good yesterday, so I just wanted some more info on him. Appreciate the help from both you and PF.

GB12
08-10-2007, 07:39 PM
He was as bad as or worse than Ahmad Carroll. That should tell you everything you need to know.

neko4
08-10-2007, 07:42 PM
Hes not ment for the NFL anymore, especially sense dallas drafted two cb's. he'l get cut unless he has a breakout year

Paul
08-10-2007, 07:56 PM
Hes not ment for the NFL anymore, especially sense dallas drafted two cb's. he'l get cut unless he has a breakout year

Well they were both 7th round picks, and one of them Courtney Brown has been moved to safety. But we'll see how Thomas does.

jackalope
08-10-2007, 11:17 PM
5- Specific game threads should be allowed before, during, and following each game the Packers play. Discussions on play calling, plays made, and whatever else can then be discussed.Will this apply to preseason games too?

neko4
08-10-2007, 11:33 PM
Will this apply to preseason games too?

i dont find it necesry, just make one for all of them

The Legend
08-11-2007, 02:29 AM
all i know is that James Jones wouldnt be on our team

jackalope
08-11-2007, 11:36 AM
all i know is that James Jones wouldnt be on our teamWell, actually, we probably could have still drafted him in the 5th round or something, but I get your point.

TitleTown088
08-11-2007, 04:00 PM
Is this game going to be on the NFL network?

neko4
08-11-2007, 06:48 PM
Everyone celebrate, its the 88th anniversery(spell?) of the founding of the greatest team ever

jackalope
08-11-2007, 07:02 PM
Well, so far the offense is terrible, but the defense is great.

TitleTown088
08-11-2007, 07:29 PM
Well, so far the offense is terrible, but the defense is great.
I think you spoke too soon. Pitt remembered who the Packers safeties are and decided to start throwing bombs.

jackalope
08-11-2007, 07:45 PM
I think you spoke too soon. Pitt remembered who the Packers safeties are and decided to start throwing bombs.Yeah, after I posted that we started getting burned in the secondary. Is Collins out?

TitleTown088
08-11-2007, 07:59 PM
James Jones is looking like a STUD agianst the reserves.

jackalope
08-11-2007, 08:05 PM
James Jones is looking like a STUD agianst the reserves.Yeah, this is really the first time I've seen him play (he didn't have many balls thrown to him in the scrimmage) and he's looking great.

TitleTown088
08-11-2007, 08:36 PM
Yeah, this is really the first time I've seen him play (he didn't have many balls thrown to him in the scrimmage) and he's looking great.

Yeah, him and Rodgers seem to have some chemistry. Rodgers is looking impressive agianst the chumps too.

TitleTown088
08-11-2007, 08:57 PM
Rayner better be scared. Crosby just nailed a 52 yarder that would have been good from 60.

neko4
08-11-2007, 08:58 PM
Jenkins played very well, anyone concerened w/ Favre's play?

usmc0106
08-11-2007, 09:06 PM
Just get ready for a very long year cause the we are no better than we were last year. Everyone wants to talk about this guy and that guy but the truth is the Packers are bad to ok at best. The O-line looked terrible, the wide recievers couldnt get any separation against the first team D. I think that they can be better than average but there is a long long way to go.

PackerLegend
08-11-2007, 10:03 PM
Just get ready for a very long year cause the we are no better than we were last year. Everyone wants to talk about this guy and that guy but the truth is the Packers are bad to ok at best. The O-line looked terrible, the wide recievers couldnt get any separation against the first team D. I think that they can be better than average but there is a long long way to go.

you do realize we have the exact same o-line and WR's as last year and look how they played during the season just fine its our first preseason game to Steelers 2nd and we are starting off against 3-4 defense really the 1st team offense didnt play well but thats nothing to worry about in the 1st game, look for them to inprove. our starting D looked sick even without Woodson/Harris id be expecting alot of big things out of them this year.

D-line looked awesome, Jenkins 2 sacks Forced Fumble and Fumble Recovery, KGB sack, Harrell Sack, Kampman and every one else solid push without many blitzes

PackerLegend
08-11-2007, 10:14 PM
LB Hawk, Barnett, Poppinga all looked very good

CB pretty good overall without Harris/Woodson best looking id say Blackmon, Bush, Worst Dendy got burned but lucky ball hit ground

Safetys looked good when Collins/Manuel didnt play long tho, Atari Bigby, Marviel Underwood didnt look very good, Rouse made a couple nice hits

O-line didnt give up any sacks and had pretty good pocket/protection with just 5 lineman no other blockers, could have opened more holes for running game

RB Jackson didnt do much early but didnt have holes when he did he played very well

WR- Jones looked awesome Martin, Holiday, even Ferg looked good

QB Favre didnt do much just 2 of 7 for 7 yards. Rodgers looked very good and even ran well

TE Franks dropped an easy pass and Alcorn got 1 that was about it for TE's

Overall Starting Defense looked sick especially D-line and LB'ers even without Harris/Woodson. Starting offense struggle but nothing to worry about they should improve

PACKmanN
08-11-2007, 10:48 PM
We need to get Rodgers in there with the number one offense to face the number one defense, stop holding him back, let him develop on the field.

neko4
08-11-2007, 11:43 PM
I really hope Favre. Driver, and Jennings do better

Favre4ever
08-12-2007, 12:03 AM
Just get ready for a very long year cause the we are no better than we were last year. Everyone wants to talk about this guy and that guy but the truth is the Packers are bad to ok at best. The O-line looked terrible, the wide recievers couldnt get any separation against the first team D. I think that they can be better than average but there is a long long way to go.

From what ive seen, this team should be better than last year's especially the defense. The real question mark will be the running game...

neko4
08-12-2007, 12:05 AM
From what ive seen, this team should be better than last year's especially the defense. The real question mark will be the running game...

Definitly, and goal line play

TitleTown088
08-12-2007, 01:13 AM
We need to get Rodgers in there with the number one offense to face the number one defense, stop holding him back, let him develop on the field.
Treason!!!

BTW, you do realize Rodgers was playing agianst their scrubs?

princefielder28
08-12-2007, 08:22 AM
Treason!!!

BTW, you do realize Rodgers was playing agianst their scrubs?

That usually helps, but he didn't struggle against people that he should do well against so thats a positive

umphrey
08-12-2007, 11:12 AM
where was jennings? he didnt seem to do anything

GB12
08-12-2007, 01:59 PM
where was jennings? he didnt seem to do anything
He came out after only a couple series, I think the same time that Driver did. The coaches (and us) know what to expect from those 2, we need to settle out the 3 and 4 spots so we gave the guys who are fighting for those more time.

Twiddler
08-12-2007, 07:19 PM
Rayner better be scared. Crosby just nailed a 52 yarder that would have been good from 60.

Do you guys think that Crosby now has a lead in this race now? I know I heard the coaches remark that it was even before the game but that may just be coaches saying the appropriate things. Either way, I'm getting the feeling that Crosby's leg is way too much to pass up. He could be something special in the future.

GB12
08-12-2007, 07:44 PM
Do you guys think that Crosby now has a lead in this race now? I know I heard the coaches remark that it was even before the game but that may just be coaches saying the appropriate things. Either way, I'm getting the feeling that Crosby's leg is way too much to pass up. He could be something special in the future.
Since the minute we drafted him I believed it would be Crosby's job. The reason that Rayner has a job is because he has a very powerfull leg. The bad news for him is that Crosby can match it and has better accuracy. Of course the coaches are going to say that, as well as they should, but that doesn't mean it's the truth. I have no problem with keeping Rayner in camp, competition at kicker is only going to have positive effects. Rayner will most likely be able to find a job, if not as the primary K he could be a kickoff specialist like he was in Indy.

jpapa4490
08-12-2007, 08:18 PM
Since the minute we drafted him I believed it would be Crosby's job. The reason that Rayner has a job is because he has a very powerfull leg. The bad news for him is that Crosby can match it and has better accuracy. Of course the coaches are going to say that, as well as they should, but that doesn't mean it's the truth. I have no problem with keeping Rayner in camp, competition at kicker is only going to have positive effects. Rayner will most likely be able to find a job, if not as the primary K he could be a kickoff specialist like he was in Indy.

Thats what i was thinking, i don't know if you meant in GB or somewhere else but i wouldn't mind having both of these guys on the roster when the season starts.

GB12
08-12-2007, 08:27 PM
Thats what i was thinking, i don't know if you meant in GB or somewhere else but i wouldn't mind having both of these guys on the roster when the season starts.
I meant elsewhere for a team that has a good FG kicker but not a power leg. Crosby has plenty to kickoff, so he wouldn't be much use with us. We are going to have a tough time trimming down the roster as it is, we can't afford to use an extra spot on a kicker.

princefielder28
08-12-2007, 08:34 PM
I meant elsewhere for a team that has a good FG kicker but not a power leg. Crosby has plenty to kickoff, so he wouldn't be much use with us. We are going to have a tough time trimming down the roster as it is, we can't afford to use an extra spot on a kicker.

I think Dallas could certainly be an option for him

Pack_Attack_4
08-13-2007, 12:15 AM
I think Dallas could certainly be an option for him

True say i thnk Dallas still has Gramatica as there kicker rayner would be a huge upgrade over him

Boston
08-13-2007, 01:56 PM
For someone who didn't watch the Packer game, just how good was our 1st team defense?

princefielder28
08-13-2007, 02:03 PM
For someone who didn't watch the Packer game, just how good was our 1st team defense?

Front 7 is as good as your going to find in the NFL and our 2 CBs are a great duo. The safety spot showed itself as a weakness throughout the entire game. Defense is always going to look better at this point in the year as well b/c they just have to get to the ball and know their assignments/zones. I'm not too worried about the offense b/c with enough time the timing of the plays and comfort for Favre with the rest of the offense will come.

PackerLegend
08-13-2007, 03:29 PM
Front 7 is as good as your going to find in the NFL and our 2 CBs are a great duo. The safety spot showed itself as a weakness throughout the entire game. Defense is always going to look better at this point in the year as well b/c they just have to get to the ball and know their assignments/zones. I'm not too worried about the offense b/c with enough time the timing of the plays and comfort for Favre with the rest of the offense will come.

the good news tho is it wasnt our starting Saftey's Collins and Manuel they only played three snaps and were done. It was Atari Bibgy and Marviel Underwood giving up the big plays. Harris Woodson didnt play at all didnt even make the trip.

princefielder28
08-13-2007, 03:31 PM
the good news tho is it wasnt our starting Saftey's Collins and Manuel they only played three snaps and were done. It was Atari Bibgy and Marviel Underwood giving up the big plays. Harris Woodson didnt play at all didnt even make the trip.

The problem with the safety spot is that it shows if one of them goes down then we are in BIG trouble.

umphrey
08-13-2007, 04:23 PM
The problem with the safety spot is that it shows if one of them goes down then we are in BIG trouble.

Collins especially imo

princefielder28
08-13-2007, 06:55 PM
Collins especially imo

On local radio today Chris Havel said he thinks the Packers will keep 3 safeties, Collins, Manuel, and Rouse.

mqtirishfan
08-13-2007, 08:09 PM
On local radio today Chris Havel said he thinks the Packers will keep 3 safeties, Collins, Manuel, and Rouse.

Havel is a joke. A team can't get by with only one backup to both safety spots.

GB12
08-13-2007, 09:37 PM
We aren't going to keep only 3 safties, that's rediculous. If we did Rouse wouldn't be the third. Ranking the safeties in order of who's played the best I'd put them like this

1.Collins
2.Manuel
3.Bigby
4.Underwood
5.Rouse
6.Culver

princefielder28
08-13-2007, 09:40 PM
We aren't going to keep only 3 safties, that's rediculous. If we did Rouse wouldn't be the third. Ranking the safeties in order of who's played the best I'd put them like this

1.Collins
2.Manuel
3.Bigby
4.Underwood
5.Rouse
6.Culver

I know Underwood is your boy, but they are going to keep a raw safety that they drafted in the 3rd round and Bigby was flat out terrible against the Steelers. If they kept a 4th I would say Underwood just for the simple fact that we don't know how good he can be until he's 100% but Bigby and Culver can pack their bags right now.

GB12
08-13-2007, 09:46 PM
I know Underwood is your boy, but they are going to keep a raw safety that they drafted in the 3rd round and Bigby was flat out terrible against the Steelers. If they kept a 4th I would say Underwood just for the simple fact that we don't know how good he can be until he's 100% but Bigby and Culver can pack their bags right now.
That was just ranking them on their play, not the order of who would be kept. The main point is there is absolutely no chance we go with only 3. With how week our safety position is already we're going to keep as many as possible. We'll most likely keep 4, 5 I guess is a possibility but that's a stretch. Bigby has really been a surprise, I'm not ready to give up on him yet. Culver seems to have taken a step back, so I'll agree he has little to no shot of making it now.

roughrider30
08-14-2007, 01:53 AM
Well, according to this Bigby would be the leader for the 3rd safety spot like GB12 had it.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=646182

umphrey
08-14-2007, 08:17 AM
After watching that game on Saturday I can see why Manuel is still starting.

princefielder28
08-14-2007, 08:23 AM
Well, according to this Bigby would be the leader for the 3rd safety spot like GB12 had it.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=646182

Bigby is one of those guys that is a very good practice player but when he steps out on that field he's an entirely different player.

neko4
08-14-2007, 08:24 AM
I only see Culver getting cut
Also is Peprah still there?

princefielder28
08-14-2007, 08:26 AM
I only see Culver getting cut
Also is Peprah still there?

It would be tough for them to hold on to 5 safeties, Manuel, Collins, Rouse, Underwood, and Bigby. I think four would be the max with Bigby being the odd man out.

umphrey
08-15-2007, 08:17 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Underwood cut, he hasn't gotten much praise at all and he looked horrible last Saturday. Bigby did too but I get the feeling that the coaching staff will cut him more slack than Underwood who has been around longer.

Football Fan
08-15-2007, 09:24 AM
Could Underwood go back on injured reserve?

bearsfan_51
08-15-2007, 11:47 AM
It's almost unheard of to only keep 3 safties anymore. In fact I can't think of a single team that does. 5 is much more common, in fact the Bears have kept 5 safties all three years Lovie's been coach.

The Legend
08-15-2007, 08:37 PM
i have Culver over Bigby & Peprah

Moses
08-15-2007, 08:39 PM
It's almost unheard of to only keep 3 safties anymore. In fact I can't think of a single team that does. 5 is much more common, in fact the Bears have kept 5 safties all three years Lovie's been coach.

They're generally good special teamers too so it's not like it's a big burden to carry a bunch of them.

GB12
08-15-2007, 09:38 PM
i have Culver over Bigby & Peprah
Have you actually seen them play this year or is that based on last year? Bigby has really improved where Culver dropped off. I would say that at this point Bigby is the clear #3.

jpapa4490
08-15-2007, 09:52 PM
I wouldn't be surprised to see Underwood cut, he hasn't gotten much praise at all and he looked horrible last Saturday. Bigby did too but I get the feeling that the coaching staff will cut him more slack than Underwood who has been around longer.


There is no way in my mind underwood gets cut because even though he's not having the greatest training camp alot of players say the first year back from an injury like underwoods is an off year. I think underwood stays and Bigby also.

Pack_Attack_4
08-16-2007, 06:37 PM
id say we keep 5 safties
1.Collins
2.Manuel
3.Bigby
4.Rouse
5.Underwood

princefielder28
08-16-2007, 10:05 PM
Robert Ferguson will not play another down as a Green Bay Packer. The Packers are looking at trading him, and if they can't do that he will be released.

GB12
08-16-2007, 10:18 PM
I've been waiting all off season for that to happen. It shouldn't be unexpected to any Packers fan. We won't be able to trade him though, he'll just get cut.

EDIT: My money is on him ending up in Houston.

The Legend
08-17-2007, 01:42 AM
Robert Ferguson will not play another down as a Green Bay Packer. The Packers are looking at trading him, and if they can't do that he will be released.

i would like to trade him for a back up safety

Michael Grenn
Michael Bowlware
Pierson Prioleau

TitleTown088
08-17-2007, 03:07 AM
Damn, Brett Favre is sexy.
B8h bye FERGY! You pusssy.; http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspaper/blogs/insider/index.shtml

princefielder28
08-17-2007, 08:20 AM
I've been waiting all off season for that to happen. It shouldn't be unexpected to any Packers fan. We won't be able to trade him though, he'll just get cut.

EDIT: My money is on him ending up in Houston.

yeah one of Sherman's boys but I think Tennessee could be up there too

Pack_Attack_4
08-17-2007, 09:14 AM
i would like to trade him for a back up safety

Michael Grenn
Michael Bowlware
Pierson Prioleau

Ya i agree getting a back up veteren safty would be nice instead of jus releasing him But i donno if ne1 is gona want a BIG PUSS Y on there team.

Moses
08-17-2007, 09:20 AM
Nobody is going to give up anything for Ferguson. He'll be cut.

Wide Receiver Depth Chart:
1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. James Jones
4. Ruvell Martin
5. David Clowney

That's my prediction anyway.

neko4
08-17-2007, 09:30 AM
Nobody is going to give up anything for Ferguson. He'll be cut.

Wide Receiver Depth Chart:
1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. James Jones
4. Ruvell Martin
5. David Clowney

That's my prediction anyway.

I dunno, Holiday has been impressive as i remember

Pack_Attack_4
08-17-2007, 10:34 AM
Packers Still have faith in Holliday
http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070815/PKR01/708150573/1989

Moses
08-17-2007, 10:59 AM
I dunno, Holiday has been impressive as i remember

Yup but Clowney is useful as a returner. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

PackerLegend
08-17-2007, 12:56 PM
just keep 6 WR's maybe

1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. James Jones
4. Ruvell Martin
5. David Clowney
6. Caryle Holiday

GB12
08-17-2007, 01:15 PM
I think We'll keep 6 with us through the season. Here's how I see the roster breaking down.

3 QBs
4 RBs
1 FB
3 TEs
6 WRs
8 OL
4 DEs
5 DTs
6 LBs
5 CBs
5 Ss
1 K
1 P
Rob Davis

Nitschke-Hawk
08-17-2007, 01:27 PM
Anybody who's a close cut will likely be signed to the practice squad so that's a good thing.

princefielder28
08-17-2007, 01:49 PM
3 QB: Favre, Rodgers, Thompson
3 RB: Morency, Jackson, Herron
2 FB: Miree, Hall
6 WR: Driver, Jennings, Jones, Martin, Holliday, Clowney
3 TE: Lee, Alcorn, Franks
8 OL: Clifton, Colledge, Wells, Spitz, Tauscher, Moll, Coston, Barbre
10 DL: Kampman, Pickett, Harrell, Jenkins, Gbaja-Biamila, Williams, Cole, Montgomery, Jolly, Hunter
6 LB: Hawk, Barnett, Poppinga, Hodge, White, Bishop
5 CB: Harris, Woodson, Blackmon, Bush, Williams
4 S: Manuel, Collins, Rouse, Bigby
1 K: Crosby
1 P: Ryan
1 LS: Davis

Moses
08-17-2007, 01:49 PM
Anybody who's a close cut will likely be signed to the practice squad so that's a good thing.

Other teams can then try to acquire them though. Guys like Carlyle Holliday would likely get a shot somewhere else.

GB12
08-17-2007, 01:53 PM
3 QB: Favre, Rodgers, Thompson
3 RB: Morency, Jackson, Herron
2 FB: Miree, Hall
6 WR: Driver, Jennings, Jones, Martin, Holliday, Clowney
3 TE: Lee, Alcorn, Franks
8 OL: Clifton, Colledge, Wells, Spitz, Tauscher, Moll, Coston, Barbre
10 DL: Kampman, Pickett, Harrell, Jenkins, Gbaja-Biamila, Williams, Cole, Montgomery, Jolly, Hunter
6 LB: Hawk, Barnett, Poppinga, Hodge, White, Bishop
5 CB: Harris, Woodson, Blackmon, Bush, Williams
4 S: Manuel, Collins, Rouse, Bigby
1 K: Crosby
1 P: Ryan
1 LS: Davis
I'd be surprised to see Thompson make it over Ingle.

princefielder28
08-17-2007, 01:56 PM
I'd be surprised to see Thompson make it over Ingle.

Ingle hasn't made strides from last season and Thompson may be a project the Packers are willing to work on

Moses
08-17-2007, 02:06 PM
I'm more surprised that Dendy isn't in your CB list. He was the nickelback last year...

GB12
08-17-2007, 02:08 PM
I'm more surprised that Dendy isn't in your CB list. He was the nickelback last year...

Wow, I missed that. Yeah, if Williams makes it and Dendy doesn't I'll crap my pants.

Hawk
08-17-2007, 02:36 PM
Ingle hasn't made strides from last season and Thompson may be a project the Packers are willing to work on

Thompson will be cut, and most likely put on the PS. He was probably just gonna be a camp body, but then they saw something in him. Just how I see it. I can't see him higher than Ingle though.

neko4
08-17-2007, 03:14 PM
Poll On Packers.com:
After DD,Jennings and Jones whose your pick for #4 WR?
So far the results:

Ruvell: 44
Holiday: 28
Other?: 12
Clowney: 8
Bodiford: 5

maxpower430
08-17-2007, 04:55 PM
what would you guys think of the packers only going with 2 qbs on the final roster? if both favre and rodgers get hurt, its not like martin or thompson would do anything worthwhile, plus holiday could be an emergency 3rd qb. if they did that, they could keep an extra wr or cb, and not have to worry about a talented player going to the practice squad

princefielder28
08-17-2007, 04:58 PM
what would you guys think of the packers only going with 2 qbs on the final roster? if both favre and rodgers get hurt, its not like martin or thompson would do anything worthwhile, plus holiday could be an emergency 3rd qb. if they did that, they could keep an extra wr or cb, and not have to worry about a talented player going to the practice squad

No b/c if Favre would get hurt during a game then Rodgers would be the only available option left; 3 is always a safe number. I know Holliday played QB at Notre Dame, but he hasn't played it in a long while and he has never practiced it and it would take him a long time to develop any consistentcy with a unit.

neko4
08-17-2007, 04:59 PM
theres a reason Holiday isnt a pro QB
Martin did fairly well as i remeber last preason

scottyboy
08-17-2007, 05:01 PM
guys how's Clark Harris looking in camp? will he make the roster? push for the #2 TE spot? just curious how my boy is doing. thanks.

princefielder28
08-17-2007, 05:03 PM
guys how's Clark Harris looking in camp? will he make the roster? push for the #2 TE spot? just curious how my boy is doing. thanks.

Clark Harris will be very fortunate to make the final 53 man roster. I think he'll end up on the practice squad.

scottyboy
08-17-2007, 05:04 PM
Clark Harris will be very fortunate to make the final 53 man roster. I think he'll end up on the practice squad.

uggh not what i like to hear...

maxpower430
08-17-2007, 08:31 PM
yeah but neither martin nor thompson has looked all that great of late, and they probably make it to the practice squad. all i'm saying is that if it comes down to it, and favre and rodgers get hurt we're probably not gonna win that game anyways, and could just bring thompson/martin from the practice squad or sign a guy like bouman off the street.

jackalope
08-17-2007, 08:42 PM
I've been camping since Sunday, went to Lambeau yesterday, took the tour, got some autographs, and watched the practice. I had a good time, although I didn't really get a great look at the practice. I think Crosby is the obvious front runner for the kicking job now, he had a much better practice then Rayner. I sat behind Laura Hawk (formerly Quinn) while watching the practice.

I was at the fence where the players park trying to get a few signatures and Ferguson came out of his car talking on his cell phone. Another guy trying to get autographs there (probably about 17) who I was standing next to started yelling at him to come over. When he didn't the guy started yelling about how we could have gotten Chambers. It was around 4:30 when Ferguson went in (he left his tail lights on BTW) and he came out about 20 minutes later. The guy started yelling at him again and Ferguson got a little annoyed and told him "You gotta quit your jabbin". Then he got in his car and left. Today I hear he got cut (which I'm very happy about) and the paper said he was told yesterday at 5:00 that they were going to try to get rid of him, so I assume that is what he was going to talk about.

I got Scott Wells, James Jones, Jason Spitz, Ruvell Martin, and a few other minor players' signatures yesterday. Wells is a pretty funny guy.

Hawk
08-17-2007, 10:41 PM
I've been camping since Sunday, went to Lambeau yesterday, took the tour, got some autographs, and watched the practice. I had a good time, although I didn't really get a great look at the practice. I think Crosby is the obvious front runner for the kicking job now, he had a much better practice then Rayner. I sat behind Laura Hawk (formerly Quinn) while watching the practice.

I was at the fence where the players park trying to get a few signatures and Ferguson came out of his car talking on his cell phone. Another guy trying to get autographs there (probably about 17) who I was standing next to started yelling at him to come over. When he didn't the guy started yelling about how we could have gotten Chambers. It was around 4:30 when Ferguson went in (he left his tail lights on BTW) and he came out about 20 minutes later. The guy started yelling at him again and Ferguson got a little annoyed and told him "You gotta quit your jabbin". Then he got in his car and left. Today I hear he got cut (which I'm very happy about) and the paper said he was told yesterday at 5:00 that they were going to try to get rid of him, so I assume that is what he was going to talk about.

I got Scott Wells, James Jones, Jason Spitz, Ruvell Martin, and a few other minor players' signatures yesterday. Wells is a pretty funny guy.

Laura Hawk, yay or nay?

jackalope
08-17-2007, 10:57 PM
Laura Hawk, yay or nay?Yay. I didn't talk to he at all though. I saw she had a picture of A.J. on her IPhone.

Nitschke-Hawk
08-18-2007, 12:38 AM
I've been camping since Sunday, went to Lambeau yesterday, took the tour, got some autographs, and watched the practice. I had a good time, although I didn't really get a great look at the practice. I think Crosby is the obvious front runner for the kicking job now, he had a much better practice then Rayner. I sat behind Laura Hawk (formerly Quinn) while watching the practice.

I was at the fence where the players park trying to get a few signatures and Ferguson came out of his car talking on his cell phone. Another guy trying to get autographs there (probably about 17) who I was standing next to started yelling at him to come over. When he didn't the guy started yelling about how we could have gotten Chambers. It was around 4:30 when Ferguson went in (he left his tail lights on BTW) and he came out about 20 minutes later. The guy started yelling at him again and Ferguson got a little annoyed and told him "You gotta quit your jabbin". Then he got in his car and left. Today I hear he got cut (which I'm very happy about) and the paper said he was told yesterday at 5:00 that they were going to try to get rid of him, so I assume that is what he was going to talk about.

I got Scott Wells, James Jones, Jason Spitz, Ruvell Martin, and a few other minor players' signatures yesterday. Wells is a pretty funny guy.

Damn I was there Monday and Tuesday, we didn't try to get autographs Monday but after Tuesday night's my sister got Edgar Bennett, Brandon Jackson and Rob Davis on her pink ball. On Monday we were sitting in the front row by the goal line where the o line does drills and Davis was right in front of us for a couple minutes. The ball dropped in front of him went to his side kind of behind him and he could hear my sister giggling enjoying herself at the time so as the ball rolled to his side he picked it up real fast and pushed it against the fence which was about a foot from my sister's face, scared her and got her laughing for a good minute. So after Tuesday night's practice I pointed him out and he signed. My mom followed David Clowney the whole way and he signed a Score rookie card she had gotten in a pack on Saturday, she got Corey White on her mini helmet.

And me, well, I got caught up in a storm of what to do. I couldn't decide to follow guys or stay and wait for other players. Problem was I was past the fence and almost everybody that signed did maybe 5 or 6 for people up close then the bikes were right there so they hopped on. Once they got past the fence you basically ad to follow them.

Props to Edgar Bennett, the man is a RB coach these days and still made time for the fans. He walked the whole way signing autographs.

I knew I wouldn't have a shot at most of the best players but I had seen a lot of things signed by Cullen Jenkins and a few other guys. I was hoping to get him, Tauscher, Wells, Colledge, Hawk, etc. and a lot of guys weren't even asked to sign. Hawk signed a quick 5 or 6 by the fence then hopped on a bike. Most guys just looked dog tired after the two practices so I guess I got shy and didn't ask. At the same time it's mainly for the younger kids.

Towards the end I had walked down to the corner to wait and B-Jax goes right past me on a bike and then a minute later my sister comes up and I'm like damn...you got Brandon Jackson didn't you... I was upset.. I thought all the players I wanted left. Ehh, oh well I'll be back next year.

jackalope
08-18-2007, 08:50 AM
And me, well, I got caught up in a storm of what to do. I couldn't decide to follow guys or stay and wait for other players. Problem was I was past the fence and almost everybody that signed did maybe 5 or 6 for people up close then the bikes were right there so they hopped on. Once they got past the fence you basically ad to follow them.Yeah, you couldn't really get an autograph after they got on a bike. I just tried to get a few signatures of the guys who were walking.

Ruvell Martin was really nice. I saw him stop and talk to a few guys, singing things and shaking their hands for a couple of minutes. Then once almost everyone had gone in, he was standing there just singing autographs.

PACKmanN
08-18-2007, 06:40 PM
Corey White will also make the roster, in the WR position we need to cut one more for Robinson. IMO I dont think this team will carry a 3rd qb. We have both Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre no need. Also the staff might be going after Bubba or Manuel if they see no improvement this preseason.

The Legend
08-18-2007, 07:25 PM
Texans To Sign Ferguson
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5064189.html

V. Young
08-18-2007, 08:05 PM
Hey guys what was that site with that chatroom for the packers. packerchattin.com or something.

TitleTown088
08-18-2007, 08:20 PM
Hey guys what was that site with that chatroom for the packers. packerchattin.com or something.

Packerschatter.com

James Jones... Seriously. Looking good agian tonight.

Nitschke-Hawk
08-18-2007, 09:36 PM
Can't wait to see the game tonight at 11 on NFL Network. 48-13 in the 3rd quarter gahlee... Bigby two sacks, J Bush 2 int's. Hawk a sack. Looks like we're really picking up the blitzing this year. When I watched the defense at camp they definitely have this quiet confidence about them. Very smooth practice. I think they're gonna surprise a lot of people.

PACKmanN
08-18-2007, 09:39 PM
Man I hope this is the team we see for years.

Nitschke-Hawk
08-18-2007, 09:48 PM
Bubba 4 catches 30 yards. Can't wait to see Bigby's two sacks. And Hawk's. Well...everything

Nitschke-Hawk
08-18-2007, 09:54 PM
Judging by the game center we would've had another TD but Thompson got picked off in the endzone. Damn..

Boston
08-18-2007, 11:02 PM
God damnit. I completely forgot about this game. I missed the last one too. Son of a *****. Anyone want to summarize the game for me, not scores, but how well defense, offense, players, played.

neko4
08-18-2007, 11:19 PM
Its on NFLN rite now, I hope what we've seen of Bubba will continue into the year

elway777
08-19-2007, 12:22 AM
What's the info on Ryan Powdrell? I'd hate to see someone I grew up with lose his career to injury.

The Legend
08-19-2007, 02:08 AM
boy Bigby won me over what a game he had he played fearless

TitleTown088
08-19-2007, 02:10 AM
boy Bigby won me over what a game he had he played fearless

Don't forget the dogshit defense he played in the first. I'll reserve my opinion of him until a couple more games.

The Legend
08-19-2007, 06:39 AM
Pre-Season Stats - Week 2

Carlyle Holiday & James Jones: Tied 2 TD's (Lead NFL)
James Jones: 10 Catches (3rd NFL)
Brandon Jackson: 30 At temps (Lead NFL)
Brandon Jackson: 111 Yards (2nd NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 45 At temps (Lead NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 270 Yards (3rd NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 3 Tds (2nd NFL)
Cullen Jenkins: 3 Sacks (Lead NFL)
Jarrett Bush: 2 Interceptions (Lead NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 140 PassingYards (2nd NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 12 Sacks (Lead NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 3 Interceptions (3rd NFL)

Green Bay Packers Defense: 7 Touchdowns Allowed (32 NFL)
Note: Thats The Worst In The NFL, We Sure Gotta Fix That

The Legend
08-19-2007, 06:41 AM
Bubba 4 catches 30 yards. Can't wait to see Bigby's two sacks. And Hawk's. Well...everything

and that was only like in the 1st qtr

also titletown by won me over i mean over manuel
i think he still done a hell of a job better then manuel

Zbikowski_9
08-19-2007, 06:51 AM
Pre-Season Stats - Week 2

Carlyle Holiday & James Jones: Tied 2 TD's (Lead NFL)
James Jones: 10 Catches (3rd NFL)
Brandon Jackson: 30 At temps (Lead NFL)
Brandon Jackson: 111 Yards (2nd NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 45 At temps (Lead NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 270 Yards (3rd NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 3 Tds (2nd NFL)
Cullen Jenkins: 3 Sacks (Lead NFL)
Jarrett Bush: 2 Interceptions (Lead NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 140 PassingYards (2nd NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 12 Sacks (Lead NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 3 Interceptions (3rd NFL)

Green Bay Packers Defense: 7 Touchdowns Allowed (32 NFL)
Note: Thats The Worst In The NFL, We Sure Gotta Fix That


Take team stats with a grain of salt. Its preseason and in my opinion the only stats that matter are individual stats which is a good sighn for you guys.

If you are to take team stats seriously you can realy only look at the first quater if that.

Packers got some good players, and i look foward maybe even as soon as next year when it is Vikes and Packs battling for the top spot.

princefielder28
08-19-2007, 08:11 AM
Very nice performance last night but both first units. James Jones and Brandon Jackson played very well for only their 2nd games. Atari Bigby locked up a roster spot for himself, and Jarrett Bush also had a very nice game.

Nitschke-Hawk
08-19-2007, 10:43 AM
Pre-Season Stats - Week 2

Carlyle Holiday & James Jones: Tied 2 TD's (Lead NFL)
James Jones: 10 Catches (3rd NFL)
Brandon Jackson: 30 At temps (Lead NFL)
Brandon Jackson: 111 Yards (2nd NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 45 At temps (Lead NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 270 Yards (3rd NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 3 Tds (2nd NFL)
Cullen Jenkins: 3 Sacks (Lead NFL)
Jarrett Bush: 2 Interceptions (Lead NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 140 PassingYards (2nd NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 12 Sacks (Lead NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 3 Interceptions (3rd NFL)

Green Bay Packers Defense: 7 Touchdowns Allowed (32 NFL)
Note: Thats The Worst In The NFL, We Sure Gotta Fix That

Umm the defense has given up only two touchdowns. The 2nd one, which was vs. Seattle, only happened because of the botched shotgun snap on offense. That turnover gave Seattle very short distance to the end zone and it was against mostly 2nd string defense.

princefielder28
08-19-2007, 10:44 AM
Umm the defense has given up only two touchdowns. The 2nd one, which was vs. Seattle, only happened because of the botched shotgun snap on offense. That turnover gave Seattle very short distance to the end zone and it was against mostly 2nd string defense.

I noticed that that was typed as well but didn't say anything

jackalope
08-19-2007, 11:17 AM
Great game last night. The whole team just looked great. James Jones is looking amazing. Thompson blew his shot at a roster spot.

Nitschke-Hawk
08-19-2007, 11:32 AM
Don't forget the dogshit defense he played in the first. I'll reserve my opinion of him until a couple more games.

I'm not saying he's the 2nd coming of Ronnie Lott, but he did lock up a roster spot last night. With more good performances he will be starting. Very few safeties can show the blitzing and athletic ability that he did. He had two sacks where he jumped over the blocker to get to the QB. He had that close call before either one of them, Wallace was rolling out, about 10 to 12 yards behind the line of scrimmage and nearly got sacked by Bigby at the 1 or 2 yard line but was able to get rid of the ball. His athletic ability gives us one of the most athletic combos in the NFL at safety if he starts. That's a good thing with Harris and Woodson, two guys past their prime athletically at cornerback.

Last week what he did was miss two tackles, albeit two important ones. But he didn't have any coverage errors like we all thought at first. Reporters were questioning him last Monday non stop, Jarrett Bush, Will Blackmon interrupted and took the blame because of their coverage errors that made Bigby look terrible. Al Harris also stepped in and had his back.

Even if Bigby were to make the same exact amount of errors Manuel did last year I still want Bigby in there because of his athletic ability and instincts. He would make more impact plays than Manuel. I want the Flying Jamaican in there.

Other things I've noticed:

After being at camp earlier this week I can tell you Will Blackmon is one of the best athletes on the team and he can show it in games too. He locked up a roster spot last night.

Last night Korey Hall was right by the ball seemingly every time the Packers kicked it off or punted it. What they said about his special teams ability is definitely true.

No matter who is out there on the defensive line they are constantly owning the opposing team's offensive line. I'm not ready to say this group is the best I've seen or anything, but what stands out to me is that they get so much push past the line of scrimmage. It looks like they are eating up tons of blocks for the backers and safeties to make the tackle.

The switch of Jenkins and KGB has already definitely been a big reason they've had sacks against opposing left tackles. They've seen the power and quickness of Jenkins a lot then KGB comes in and uses speed. I think it will affect even the best Left Tackles. How bout that spin Jenkins has used twice? That thing is pretty.

I love these blitzes Bob Sanders has drawn up. It comes from every where. This leads me to my favorite plays which are next and this: I think AJ Hawk could have double digit sacks if they give him the opportunities. His acceleration and explosion is just amazing. Combine that with his relentlessness on any play and you have one of the best pass rushing 4-3 linebackers out there. Something I noticed while watching the defensive walk throughs at camp is Hawk blitzing, a lot. I hope this trend keeps up. Not only can he beat the backs easily. He can beat tackles too, for a 6'1" 240 pound linebacker that's very impressive these days. I remember that at least 2 of his 3.5 sacks last year were against a Left Tackle or Right Tackle.

My 3 favorite plays:

1. AJ Hawk looking like a 3-4 rush linebacker off the edge. Times the snap perfectly. Gets in front of the full back and if you watch closely, the full back has the slightest lean to the right in his blocking stance and Hawk seems to notice it milliseconds after it happens, I mean you barely notice it at all even if I pointed it out. Throws him completely out of the way to his left and sticks Wallace in the dirt.

2. Atari Bigby's first sack. Blitzes off the strong side, jumps over the blocking back and flies into Wallace like a damn Jamaican Barracuda. Knocks the ball loose and I think it was Barnett taking it for the TD.

3. Atari Bigby's second sack. Comes from the weak side jumps over the blocker again and sacks the QB. This guy is just fun to watch.

Looking at the playcalling of 38 pass attempts and 27 runs it seems that McCarthy knows his top 3 will be Jackson, Herron and Morency so he's been giving Jackson and Herron just enough touches to get some solid game action, and taking time to develop the passing game with guys like Rodgers and Jones cause he needs to see what works. The running game is more simple than the passing. I think the playcalling will be more balanced once the season starts.

GB12
08-19-2007, 12:28 PM
I know it's preseason, and we still scored a shot load of points but I thought it was a bit dissapointing not to get over 50. It seemed like everytime we got in the redzone we turned it over, but hey that's what happens with 4th stringers.

Anyway now to what actually matters.

EDIT: God Damn it. I just spent like 15 minutes typing and then I got logged out somehow and I lost it all.

Boston
08-19-2007, 01:46 PM
Pre-Season Stats - Week 2

Carlyle Holiday & James Jones: Tied 2 TD's (Lead NFL)
James Jones: 10 Catches (3rd NFL)
Brandon Jackson: 30 At temps (Lead NFL)
Brandon Jackson: 111 Yards (2nd NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 45 At temps (Lead NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 270 Yards (3rd NFL)
Aaron Rodgers: 3 Tds (2nd NFL)
Cullen Jenkins: 3 Sacks (Lead NFL)
Jarrett Bush: 2 Interceptions (Lead NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 140 PassingYards (2nd NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 12 Sacks (Lead NFL)
Green Bay Packers Defense: 3 Interceptions (3rd NFL)

Green Bay Packers Defense: 7 Touchdowns Allowed (32 NFL)
Note: Thats The Worst In The NFL, We Sure Gotta Fix That

We've allowed only two touchdowns....?

RockJock07
08-19-2007, 03:45 PM
James Jones looks like he's gonna be very good, but as we all know the pre-season means nothing, although it was nice to see Brett get back on track.

TitleTown088
08-19-2007, 03:56 PM
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9413/jamesjonesboozingmv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
JJ getting buck on the job.

Moses
08-19-2007, 04:02 PM
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9413/jamesjonesboozingmv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
JJ getting buck on the job.

LOL.

I didn't notice that when I watched the highlights.

wiscbadgerfootball
08-19-2007, 04:15 PM
my thoughts

defense was very impressive
Rodgers surprised me with his poise
James Jones is a balla

Moses
08-19-2007, 04:35 PM
Did you guys know that Atari Bigby and Marquand Manuel went to high school together?

Andre Johnson, Roscoe Parrish, Jamaal Jackson, and Udonis Haslem (NBA) were there too.

mqtirishfan
08-19-2007, 04:38 PM
Green Bay Packers Defense: 7 Touchdowns Allowed (32 NFL)
Note: Thats The Worst In The NFL, We Sure Gotta Fix That


As others have said, that's wrong. We've scored 7 total TDs.

mqtirishfan
08-19-2007, 04:49 PM
Did you guys know that Atari Bigby and Marquand Manuel went to high school together?

Andre Johnson, Roscoe Parrish, Jamaal Jackson, and Udonis Haslem (NBA) were there too.


They would only have gone together for a year or so. I wouldn't have thought it could be possible, but Bigby took his sweet time making it to the pro level...

Moses
08-19-2007, 05:55 PM
They would only have gone together for a year or so. I wouldn't have thought it could be possible, but Bigby took his sweet time making it to the pro level...

They're less than two years apart...

GB12
08-19-2007, 11:07 PM
With Ferguson cut we have no one remaining from the 2001 draft.

neko4
08-19-2007, 11:55 PM
With Ferguson cut we have no one remaining from the 2001 draft.

Jamal Reynolds...BUST!
Robert Ferguson...Dissapointment
Bhawoh Jue...Okay
Torrence Marshall...Dissapointment
Bill Ferrario...Who?
David Martin...Good (was a 6th rounder)

Moses
08-19-2007, 11:58 PM
Jamal Reynolds...BUST!
Robert Ferguson...Dissapointment
Bhawoh Jue...Okay
Torrence Marshall...Dissapointment
Bill Ferrario...Who?
David Martin...Good (was a 6th rounder)

Uggghhhhhhhh

Worst pick ever.

GB12
08-20-2007, 12:06 AM
Uggghhhhhhhh

Worst pick ever.

I think it's safe to say Seattle won that trade. Hasselbeck and Hutchison for Reynolds and Torrence Marshall.
http://www.whitewitch.ie/natural_perfumers_journal/uploaded_images/embarrassed-712638.jpg

TitleTown088
08-20-2007, 12:09 AM
Guess who's interested in the queens?

http://www.twincities.com/vikings/ci_6654003?nclick_check=1

neko4
08-20-2007, 12:12 AM
Uggghhhhhhhh

Worst pick ever.

http://home.new.rr.com/firesherman/images/ahmad_carroll.jpg
http://www.endzone.it/images/uploads/team_reports/BJ_thumb.jpg
HOW CAN A PUNTER BE A BUST!?!?!?!?!?!?
what difference from college to pros can affect how a punter punt's?

GB12
08-20-2007, 12:28 AM
my thoughts

defense was very impressive
Rodgers surprised me with his poise
James Jones is a balla
It'll be nice to see #89 actually do something.

TitleTown088
08-20-2007, 01:40 AM
No surprise... Jackson to start opening day

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=649213

TitleTown088
08-20-2007, 01:56 AM
Also... week 2 preseason highlights if anyone hasn't seen them yet.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/774827/returning_home/

princefielder28
08-20-2007, 08:45 AM
It'll be nice to see #89 actually do something.

yeah, it's been a while

Football Fan
08-20-2007, 12:14 PM
Also... week 2 preseason highlights if anyone hasn't seen them yet.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/774827/returning_home/nice, love those 2 sacks by bigby.

Pack_Attack_4
08-20-2007, 02:04 PM
nice, love those 2 sacks by bigby.

Ya i really hope he gets to start instead of Manuel

jackalope
08-20-2007, 02:35 PM
NFL Network video on the D-line.

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80189bdb

Boston
08-20-2007, 02:45 PM
Also... week 2 preseason highlights if anyone hasn't seen them yet.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/774827/returning_home/

Hawk made that fullback his *****.

Nitschke-Hawk
08-20-2007, 03:19 PM
Hawk made that fullback his *****.

Yeah I can watch that and Bigby's two sacks all day.

If Hawk gets double the blitzing opportunities he had last year I believe he will get around 10 sacks. A combination of double the opportunities, better blitzing ability and a sick defensive line to take care of the offensive line blockers would allow him to get a lot of mismatches that can make this happen. Very quietly (not being talked about much at all) Hawk has been blitzing more in practice walk through's and when camp started I remember he was asked about the probability of having increased blitz opportunities on a locker room interview put on Packers.com. It's also shown by all these new blitzes Bob Sanders has been using so far. Lol, if he were to somehow get even close to 10 sacks in a 4-3 defense, along with as good or better tackles numbers than last year, say hello to Defensive MVP consideration.

Boston
08-20-2007, 03:27 PM
I'm getting excited about this year. Granted, it's early, but if the offense can play consistently at a level they did a few nights a go, or anywhere near it, and the defense continues to dominate, we could have a good year on our hands.

Boston
08-20-2007, 03:40 PM
Of the 22 players who started against the Jaguars in 2004, only 10 (6 offense, 4 defense) still remain with the Packers.

That pretty much shows you Sherman's drafting/GM capabilities.

TitleTown088
08-20-2007, 09:06 PM
UH-o GB... Underwood is done. http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspaper/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Also... apparently Teddy boy can do it all.... Perhaps the most entertaining punt reception of the evening was when Packers General Manager Ted Thompson stepped onto the field and caught a punt from the Jugs machine. Thompson played 10 years as a linebacker in the NFL but isn’t believed to have ever been a return man.

jackalope
08-20-2007, 09:11 PM
UH-o GB... Underwood is done. http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspaper/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Also... apparently Teddy boy can do it all....That's too bad about Underwood, I thought he would compete for the starting job. Fortunately Bigby is stepping it up.

GB12
08-20-2007, 09:17 PM
UH-o GB... Underwood is done. http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspaper/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Also... apparently Teddy boy can do it all....

I can't say that he did anything impressive this year. I was hoping that he'd be able to make a full recovery, but that's how it goes in the NFL. Had he returned to his old form I do think he could have made an impact, but with how he's been the chances of him helping the team weren't too good. I hope he gets a chance somewhere, but he probably needs another year still.

Anyway, the more important news from that page is this.

Bigby, Bush move up


Atari Bigby and Jarrett Bush have been promoted.

In the first team period tonight, Bigby, not Marquand Manuel, was at safety, and Bush, not Patrick Dendy, was the third cornerback in the nickel defense.

Bush and Bigby both stood out in Saturday's preseason win against Seattle. Bigby had two sacks and Bush had two interceptions.

neko4
08-20-2007, 09:22 PM
How are Jennings are Spitz I havent seen them do anything in pre-season

Twiddler
08-20-2007, 09:56 PM
That's good to see with Bigby. As long as Manuel doesn't feel comfortable with his job security hopefully some serious competition will yield better results from him. That or else we get a starting safety named Atari, a win-win situation if you ask me.

mqtirishfan
08-20-2007, 10:03 PM
Too bad that Underwood was cut. He was one of my favorite players, and I wish I could have seen him play on Thursday against the Jags.

jackalope
08-20-2007, 10:04 PM
How are Jennings are Spitz I havent seen them do anything in pre-seasonJennings hasn't caught a ball yet, but I don't think he's had one thrown to him either.

Boston
08-20-2007, 10:06 PM
Jennings hasn't caught a ball yet, but I don't think he's had one thrown to him either.

Which is equally as bad.

TitleTown088
08-20-2007, 10:12 PM
Which is equally as bad.

Not completely. Look at the roll he has been asked to play. They feel comfortable with Jennings and they are trying to Give Jones a crash course. Jennings is playing a position that basically asks him to run down the field every time as a decoy, he'll be fine.

TitleTown088
08-20-2007, 10:14 PM
Hawk made that fullback his *****.

Hell yeah, he made that 240 pound man look like a rag doll. Dank.

princefielder28
08-20-2007, 10:28 PM
UH-o GB... Underwood is done. http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspaper/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Also... apparently Teddy boy can do it all....

Underwood just never stayed healthy and showed what he was capable of doing

drowe
08-21-2007, 08:10 AM
wow. seriously. information overload. i was somehow under the impressing that the Brewers didn't play last night. so, i wake up this morning and realize:

1)Brewers played and won.
2)Villenueva sent to minors
3)Cappy sent to pen
4)Atari Bigby is the Packer's starting safety
5)RIP Marviel Underwood


i think my head might explode.

neko4
08-21-2007, 08:47 AM
4)Atari Bigby is the Packer's starting safety


Yeah lets givem a nickname or something

This aint like when the video games when you were a kid, this time, the ATARI plays you!
A-Big
The Atari 2400

drowe
08-21-2007, 09:04 AM
Yeah lets givem a nickname or something

This aint like when the video games when you were a kid, this time, the ATARI plays you!
A-Big
The Atari 2400


dude, when your name is ATARI, you don't need a nickname.

Nitschke-Hawk
08-21-2007, 12:19 PM
I've been calling him the Jamaican Barracuda. Cause he's Jamaican and the way he roams the field he looks like a small ocean fish that is fast with hunting and killing instincts.

GB12
08-21-2007, 12:21 PM
dude, when your name is ATARI, you don't need a nickname.

Yeah, that'd be like giving Prince a nickname.

Pack_Attack_4
08-21-2007, 12:38 PM
Pft Is Reporting That Ferguson Is Going To Sighn With The Viqueens.

jackalope
08-21-2007, 01:18 PM
We signed a full back, Erryn Cobb. He'll be wearing Underwood's number.

http://packers.com/news/releases/2007/08/21/1/

Boston
08-21-2007, 01:19 PM
Pft Is Reporting That Ferguson Is Going To Sighn With The Viqueens.

Our trash is the Vikings treasure.

jackalope
08-21-2007, 01:20 PM
Our trash is the Vikings treasure.It seems like they take all our players.

Nitschke-Hawk
08-21-2007, 01:44 PM
Personal Bio

Given name is Atari David Bigby. ... Born in Jamaica, moved to the U.S. at age 4. ... Married to Jill, the couple has two daughters, Michelle, 5, and Leenah, 2. ... Attended Miami (Fla.) Senior High School and was a three-year football letterman. ... At one time or another, played every position on the field with the exception of lineman. ... As a senior, posted 72 tackles, four forced fumbles and one interception. ... On offense, recorded 500 yards receiving, 315 yards rushing and nine touchdowns. ... Earned second-team Class 6A all-state honors and also was named All-Dade County. ... Played in the Dade-Broward All-Star Game. ... Lettered two years in track and one in soccer. ... Last season, made several community appearances at juvenile detention centers and hospitals. ... Recently took part in the Edgar Bennett Celebrity Bowl-A-Thon. ... Worked in construction following his junior year of college. ... After his football career, would like to be involved in housing development projects. ... Says soccer is his first love. ... Enjoys spending time with his family and playing video games. ... Likes listening to reggae, rap and R&B. ... Has not returned to Jamaica since age 7, but would like to return to the country. ... Named Atari by his grandmother, who liked the name. ... While playing in Europe, was told by Japanese teammates that “Atari” is Japanese for a form of the word "attack." ... Went to high school with current Packers teammate Marquand Manuel, as well as Andre Johnson (Houston), Roscoe Parrish (Buffalo) and Miami Heat forward Udonis Haslem. ... Residence: Miami.

--------------

What a fitting name that is.

Vikes99ej
08-21-2007, 03:14 PM
Is there anything good you guys can find to say about Robert Ferguson, or is he just worthless, like I think he is?

wiscbadgerfootball
08-21-2007, 03:16 PM
Is there anything good you guys can find to say about Robert Ferguson, or is he just worthless, like I think he is?

he was picked in the 2nd round.. that's about it for his resume

Vikes99ej
08-21-2007, 03:18 PM
I just know he got his ass rocked by Donovin Darius. Does he drop a lot of balls, when he plays?

princefielder28
08-21-2007, 03:38 PM
I just know he got his ass rocked by Donovin Darius. Does he drop a lot of balls, when he plays?

Robert Ferguson excels as a special teamer and that is it. He has decent hands but once he catches the ball he's not going to put a big move on people and break tackles.

Boston
08-21-2007, 04:01 PM
Is there anything good you guys can find to say about Robert Ferguson, or is he just worthless, like I think he is?

He seems to play scared. He has good hands, when playing catch with a QB, but when he's put on the field, he'll often will avoid catching a ball in fear of being hit. But yeah, he's a good special teamer.

A source close to the situation said cornerbacks Al Harris and Charles Woodson had been lobbying the coaches for Bigby to replace Manuel, a player whom they apparently no longer trusted.

That's interesting.

mil_brew_fan
08-21-2007, 04:20 PM
The Vikings always seem to snag washed up Packers...

TitleTown088
08-21-2007, 04:22 PM
Where did you find that quote Boston?


anyways... I guess the old man still has a cannon...

Favre still proved that he can air it out. Working with the No. 1 offense, he heaved a bomb, estimated at approximately 60 yards in the air

mil_brew_fan
08-21-2007, 04:23 PM
Favre at 50 will be better than Rodgers will ever be...

Pack_Attack_4
08-21-2007, 04:35 PM
Favre at 50 will be better than Rodgers will ever be...

A Rods been lookin good in the pre season so far

mil_brew_fan
08-21-2007, 06:40 PM
A Rods been lookin good in the pre season so far

It's preseason... he can't manage to stay healthy for two quarters in the regular season...

GB12
08-21-2007, 06:50 PM
Does he drop a lot of balls, when he plays?

Sadly for you, he probably has the best hands out of the Vikings WRs. That hasn't really ever been a problem with him. He has a hard time getting open, and does not get a lot of yards after the catch.

neko4
08-21-2007, 06:53 PM
I just know he got his ass rocked by Donovin Darius. Does he drop a lot of balls, when he plays?

ever since that event he hasnt been the same, but he wasnt to good to begin w/ anyways

PACKmanN
08-21-2007, 07:17 PM
Favre at 50 will be better than Rodgers will ever be...

Rodgers isnt a guy that will throw it deep he a guy that will throw it to the open guy and keep you in the game. Rodgers smarts is better then Favres any day.

Vikes99ej
08-21-2007, 07:22 PM
Sadly for you, he probably has the best hands out of the Vikings WRs. That hasn't really ever been a problem with him. He has a hard time getting open, and does not get a lot of yards after the catch.

Why was he in the NFL, then?

neko4
08-21-2007, 07:59 PM
Why was he in the NFL, then?

What kinda question is that, every player has their weaknesses, getting open is his

someone447
08-21-2007, 08:57 PM
Rodgers isnt a guy that will throw it deep he a guy that will throw it to the open guy and keep you in the game. Rodgers smarts is better then Favres any day.

So far Rodgers doesn't look like he will win you games, just not lose them for you. Favre has always been a double edges sword. He will win you a lot of games, but he will lose you some too. He still wins more than he loses.

Twiddler
08-21-2007, 09:28 PM
It's preseason... he can't manage to stay healthy for two quarters in the regular season...

pa·tience [pey-shuhns]
–noun 1. the quality of being patient, as the bearing of provocation, annoyance, misfortune, or pain, without complaint, loss of temper, irritation, or the like.
2. an ability or willingness to suppress restlessness or annoyance when confronted with delay: to have patience with a slow learner.
3. quiet, steady perseverance; even-tempered care; diligence: to work with patience.


See #1.

Boston
08-22-2007, 12:12 AM
Where did you find that quote Boston?


anyways... I guess the old man still has a cannon...

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=649588

PACKmanN
08-22-2007, 02:33 AM
So far Rodgers doesn't look like he will win you games, just not lose them for you. Favre has always been a double edges sword. He will win you a lot of games, but he will lose you some too. He still wins more than he loses.

Originally Posted by PACKmanN View Post
Rodgers isnt a guy that will throw it deep he a guy that will throw it to the open guy and keep you in the game. Rodgers smarts is better then Favres any day.

Thats what I said, right now with how the defense is playing I would rather have someone who will keep you in the game rather try to do or die.

The Legend
08-22-2007, 06:49 AM
The Vikings always seem to snag washed up Packers...

i would'nt call Sharper or Longwell wash'd up

to be honest would'nt mind to have Sharper still on the team at SS

Football Fan
08-22-2007, 11:47 AM
Ok all, I could use some opinions here. I have a small bet with a co-worker on who will be on the final 53 man roster and it needs to be turned in tomorrow. Ive been busy as hell lately so I havent been able to put a lot of time into my list of players. If anyone has some advice on who needs to be added to the list or changed on my list, please let me know.
Here is what ive thrown together:

Wide Receiver: 6, Driver-Jennings-Jones-Martin-Holiday-Clowney

Tight End: 3, Lee-Franks-Alcorn

O-Line: 9, Clifton-Tauscher--Wells-Colledge-Spitz-Barber-Moll-Coston-Palmer

Quarterback: 3, Favre-Rodgers-Thompson

Running backs: 5, Jackson-Morency-Herron-Hall-Miree

D-Line: 9, Kampman-Jenkins-Pickett-Biamila-Harell-Williams-Jolly-Cole-Montgomery

Linebackers: 6, Hawk-Barnett-Poppinga-Bishop-White-Hodge

Defensive Backs: 9, Woodson-Collins-Harris-Blackman-Bigby-Bush-Rouse-Dendy-Manuel

Specialists: 3, Davis-Crosby-Ryan

GB12
08-22-2007, 12:15 PM
QB: Favre, Rodgers, Martin
RB: Jackson, Morency, Herron
FB: Hall, Miree
TE: Franks, Lee, Alcorn
WR: Driver, Jennings, Jones, Martin, Holiday, Clowney
T: Clifton, Tauscher, Moll, Coston, Babre
G: Spitz, Colledge
C: Wells

DE: Kampman, Jenkins, KGB, Montgomery
DT: Pickett, Williams, Harrell, Jolly, Cole
LB: Hawk, Barnett, Poppinga, Hodge, White, Bishop, Johnson
CB: Harris, Woodson, Dendy, Blackmon, Bush
S: Collins, Manuel, Bigby, Rouse

K: Crosby
P: Ryan
LS: Davis

I had a hard time with the last slot. Keeping 7 LBs is a lot, but I think the coaches want to keep Johnson around. All of them especially White and Bishop are good special team players so they'd be helping out somehow. I think 4 RBs might have been a better choice, but after those 3 no one has stood out to deserve a roster spot.

jackalope
08-22-2007, 12:32 PM
Ok all, I could use some opinions here. I have a small bet with a co-worker on who will be on the final 53 man roster and it needs to be turned in tomorrow. Ive been busy as hell lately so I havent been able to put a lot of time into my list of players. If anyone has some advice on who needs to be added to the list or changed on my list, please let me know.
Here is what ive thrown together:

Wide Receiver: 6, Driver-Jennings-Jones-Martin-Holiday-Clowney

Tight End: 3, Lee-Franks-Alcorn

O-Line: 9, Clifton-Tauscher--Wells-Colledge-Spitz-Barber-Moll-Coston-Palmer

Quarterback: 3, Favre-Rodgers-Thompson

Running backs: 5, Jackson-Morency-Herron-Hall-Miree

D-Line: 9, Kampman-Jenkins-Pickett-Biamila-Harell-Williams-Jolly-Cole-Montgomery

Linebackers: 6, Hawk-Barnett-Poppinga-Bishop-White-Hodge

Defensive Backs: 9, Woodson-Collins-Harris-Blackman-Bigby-Bush-Rouse-Dendy-Manuel

Specialists: 3, Davis-Crosby-RyanI think the only thing I would change on there is Ingle Martin over Thompson. Thompson had a decent chance before Saturday, but after his performance I doubt he wins the job. Otherwise, I agree with what you have

GB12
08-22-2007, 12:37 PM
The Packers 2006 recap is on ESPN right now for anyone that's interested.

Boston
08-22-2007, 12:59 PM
I love Brett Favre.

someone447
08-22-2007, 01:24 PM
Originally Posted by PACKmanN View Post
Rodgers isnt a guy that will throw it deep he a guy that will throw it to the open guy and keep you in the game. Rodgers smarts is better then Favres any day.

Thats what I said, right now with how the defense is playing I would rather have someone who will keep you in the game rather try to do or die.

He won't LOSE you the game, that is different than keeping you in the game. Favre has kept us in the game the past two years.

TitleTown088
08-22-2007, 03:19 PM
i would'nt call Sharper or Longwell wash'd up



I would. Longwell rarely even gets touchbacks anymore. Sharper..... Well, what did he do last year that was so spectacular?

TitleTown088
08-22-2007, 03:43 PM
My second favorite pick for the Packers seems to be doing very well in camp thus far. I really hope he can develop into the guy at tackle for the future.

http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070822/PKR01/708220589/1989

jackalope
08-22-2007, 05:11 PM
My second favorite pick for the Packers seems to be doing very well in camp thus far. I really hope he can develop into the guy at tackle for the future.

http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070822/PKR01/708220589/1989Our offensive line looks set for the future.

mil_brew_fan
08-22-2007, 05:24 PM
My second favorite pick for the Packers seems to be doing very well in camp thus far. I really hope he can develop into the guy at tackle for the future.

http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070822/PKR01/708220589/1989

big big fan of him too

princefielder28
08-22-2007, 05:24 PM
My second favorite pick for the Packers seems to be doing very well in camp thus far. I really hope he can develop into the guy at tackle for the future.

http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070822/PKR01/708220589/1989

Barbre will be a stud

jackalope
08-22-2007, 05:30 PM
I'm still curious as to why Ben Patrick fell so far. He had a nice one handed grab this week (1:20).

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80195475

Pack_Attack_4
08-22-2007, 05:39 PM
I'm still curious as to why Ben Patrick fell so far. He had a nice one handed grab this week (1:20).

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80195475

Ya i was hopin we were goin to grab him with a late round pick

jackalope
08-22-2007, 05:40 PM
Ya i was hopin we were goin to grab him with a late round pickI would have liked him with one of the 6th rounders, but obviously there was a reason everyone passed on him until the 7th.

PACKmanN
08-22-2007, 10:29 PM
I would have liked him with one of the 6th rounders, but obviously there was a reason everyone passed on him until the 7th.

my guess is his weight problem he was 250 in college and when he came to the draft he was 270-280.

The Legend
08-23-2007, 12:24 AM
my guess is his weight problem he was 250 in college and when he came to the draft he was 270-280.

277 yeah he was a big boy

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 04:47 PM
I'm so pumped to watch the defense go to work tonight!

Boston
08-23-2007, 06:06 PM
Does Larry Birdine have a shot at making the team?

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 06:10 PM
Does Larry Birdine have a shot at making the team?

Kampman and Jenkins are the starters with KGB and Michael Montgomery as the backups

DTs: Justin Harrell, Ryan Pickett, Colin Cole, Corey Williams, and John Jolly

If the Packers want to keep 10 DLs I would say there's a chance. I think Jason Hunter also has a chance due to special teams

GB12
08-23-2007, 06:10 PM
Does Larry Birdine have a shot at making the team?

I doubt it. Kampman, Jenkins, KGB, Montgomery, and Hunter I would take over him, and one of the last two I listed might not even make it.

On the topic of roster spots, going into the season with just Favre and Rodgers is a possibility. http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=651402

jackalope
08-23-2007, 07:15 PM
Jones looks like he's going to have another nice game.

GB12
08-23-2007, 07:23 PM
Bigby's already in at SS

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 07:37 PM
Jones looks like he's going to have another nice game.

other than the fumble he looks real good again, great hands

jackalope
08-23-2007, 07:43 PM
Did anybody notice #33 of the Jags it Popinga after a play and Popinga got in his face. Then the next play, when Jones-Drew was getting tackled Popinga went and tackled #33?

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 07:51 PM
Did anybody notice #33 of the Jags it Popinga after a play and Popinga got in his face. Then the next play, when Jones-Drew was getting tackled Popinga went and tackled #33?

some bad blood between these teams

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 07:54 PM
Has an opponent thrown a ball towards Woodson all preseason???

jackalope
08-23-2007, 07:56 PM
Nice hit by Bishop.

I thought Miree was injured.

GB12
08-23-2007, 07:57 PM
Has an opponent thrown a ball towards Woodson all preseason???
He hasn't been in until today...

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 08:03 PM
He hasn't been in until today...

He played a little against Seattle didn't he???

GB12
08-23-2007, 08:06 PM
He played a little against Seattle didn't he???

I'm pretty sure Harris and Woodson haven't been in until tonight's game.

M1Koter
08-23-2007, 08:11 PM
man what a hit on reggie williams by desmound bishop

jackalope
08-23-2007, 08:12 PM
Uhoh, Driver's hurt.

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 08:12 PM
Uhoh, Driver's hurt.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 08:14 PM
James Jones is impressive again tonight! Props to TT!

Tubby
08-23-2007, 08:14 PM
James Jones is looking great

TitleTown088
08-23-2007, 08:15 PM
That didn't look good. Driver banged his hand like he knew he was hurt bad. James Jones better go to the probowl. ****.

GB12
08-23-2007, 08:18 PM
I'm really don't think Driver's injury looked that bad. I'd be surprised if it keeps him out for even a week.

TitleTown088
08-23-2007, 08:25 PM
ON a side note.. the running game looked atrocious tonight.

Damn, I hope it was a sprain.

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 09:26 PM
Aaron Rodgers needs to learn how to get rid of the ball quicker, taking sacks does not benefit anyone

jackalope
08-23-2007, 09:35 PM
Corey White is moving the ball really well.

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 09:48 PM
Offensive Player of the Game: WR James Jones
Defensive Player of the Game: LB Desmond Bishop

Boston
08-23-2007, 09:49 PM
Offensive Player of the Game: WR James Jones
Defensive Player of the Game: LB Desmond Bishop

I'd say Barnett for Defensive player of the game. He was everywhere.

Xiomera
08-23-2007, 09:52 PM
Any update on Driver's injury? Man, I will be pissed if he misses significant time. He is one of my favorite players on teams other than Detroit.

jackalope
08-23-2007, 09:53 PM
After Ingle's and Thompson's poor performances, I would guess we go with 2 QBs on the 53 man roster.

Xiomera
08-23-2007, 09:55 PM
After Ingle's and Thompson's poor performances, I would guess we go with 2 QBs on the 53 man roster.

Green Bay is the one team that could undoubtedly get away with that. Favre is indestructable.

GB12
08-23-2007, 09:56 PM
Green Bay is the one team that could undoubtedly get away with that. Favre is indestructable.
Indy could aswell.

As for Driver, I haven't heard anything yet.

Boston
08-23-2007, 10:09 PM
Did we blitz at all today?

PackerLegend
08-23-2007, 10:10 PM
Keeping Driver in there was stupid as hell!! When Favre came out Driver should have to, he has nothing he needs to prove and now he could be seriously hurt for a meaningless game. why keep Driver in when we pretty much have a log jam of guys behind who have things left to prove, need the game experience, and exactly which ones are going to be starting.

MOD EDIT: There's no need for that.

GB12
08-23-2007, 10:17 PM
Keeping Driver in there was stupid as hell!! When Favre came out Driver should have to, he has nothing he needs to prove and now he could be seriously hurt for a meaningless game. why keep Driver in when we pretty much have a log jam of guys behind who have things left to prove, need the game experience, and exactly which ones are going to be starting.
Woah buddy calm down. First of all this is the 3rd preseason game, the one the starters usually play the most in. Second it's not like it happened in the 4th quarter or something. It was in the first half, completely reasonable for him to be in. I doubt it's anything serious, maybe a sprain at the most.

Twiddler
08-23-2007, 10:17 PM
Keeping Driver in there was stupid as hell!! When Favre came out Driver should have to, he has nothing he needs to prove and now he could be seriously hurt for a meaningless game. why keep Driver in when we pretty much have a log jam of guys behind who have things left to prove, need the game experience, and exactly which ones are going to be starting.

It happens man, that's all you can say about it. Granted if he had been in the fourth quarter of this game and this would have happened then it would have been a huge deal but this is just football being football. It sucks.

mil_brew_fan
08-23-2007, 10:48 PM
Injuries are part of the game...

Overall, the Packers look good defensive and mediocre on offense

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 11:16 PM
The Driver injury is a big deal, but not as big of a deal as it would've been at the beginning of training camp. Through training camp and the preseason games we've seen the emergence of James Jones and that takes the pressure of losing Driver off a little bit. I would be very confident with Jones and Jennings as our starting wideouts for the first two weeks or so. Plus, Bubba seems to be Bubba of old and a legit target in the passing game.

JF4
08-23-2007, 11:42 PM
I'm really don't think Driver's injury looked that bad. I'd be surprised if it keeps him out for even a week.

God I hope so. He was putting zero weight on that leg/ankle and when he tried he looked to be in serious pain. Hopefully it's nothing more than a strain or a small sprain.

princefielder28
08-23-2007, 11:45 PM
God I hope so. He was putting zero weight on that leg/ankle and when he tried he looked to be in serious pain. Hopefully it's nothing more than a strain or a small sprain.

Right now it looks like a foot sprain. According to the University of Michigan Health Services a mild foot sprain takes only a few weeks in recovery time, but a severe foot sprain could take up to 6 weeks or longer to recover from. Hopefully it's the mild scenario.

umphrey
08-24-2007, 12:15 AM
The Driver injury is a big deal, but not as big of a deal as it would've been at the beginning of training camp. Through training camp and the preseason games we've seen the emergence of James Jones and that takes the pressure of losing Driver off a little bit. I would be very confident with Jones and Jennings as our starting wideouts for the first two weeks or so. Plus, Bubba seems to be Bubba of old and a legit target in the passing game.

True, it would definitely be interesting to see the youngsters taking over the receiving game for a week or 2. Who would play slot? Martin?

neko4
08-24-2007, 01:12 AM
Jennings actually did something
Bubba looks like he could comeback
Pass blocking is great, run blocking not so much
1st team D has seemed great, but 2nd team has seemed average against 2nd team O's

mqtirishfan
08-24-2007, 02:26 AM
My god, the running game was awful tonight. Also, the backup OL couldn't protect A-Rod to save his life. Fortunately, the defense was solid, Barnett in particular. I think Bishop is the clear favorite to be the backup MLB, now.