Green Bay Packers Discussion

[someone447]

After watching his press conference from the Packers Fan Fest, I am totally sold on Aaron Rodgers. I think he has the tools to do the job on the field, and I think he has handled/is handling the Favre retiring situation magnificently. He seems to have matured a lot by sitting on the bench. He should definitely be the starter in 08. I'm very excited for next year.

I am excited for next year too. I was really excited when we got Rodgers.

That doesn't mean I haven't been crying myself to sleep for the past week.(I kid, I kid)

[GB12]

I am excited for next year too. I was really excited when we got Rodgers.

That doesn't mean I haven't been crying myself to sleep for the past week.(I kid, I kid)
I remember the first time I saw Rodgers play. It was the overtime victory over USC in his sophomore year. I was watching Rodgers and Leinart in that game. I remember thinking that it'd be nice to have one of these two at QB after Favre retires. I wasn't sure who I liked more, but settled on Rodgers in the middle of the game. I never thought it was a possibility that we'd actually have a shot at him. When he fell to us at 24 the year after I was quite happy.

That's my sort of random/boring/pointless story for the day.

[johbur]

Do we ever show real interest in anyone? lol As long as TT is running the show, we build through the draft only, and I really have no complaints if we keep winning.

Winning makes the winner look like a genius. Look at Belischmuck. He's a cheater and totally arrogant, but those three rings have NFL network clamoring about how he rivals Vince. As if.

I do like TT's approach in that he looks for guys that fit the system and won't kill the cap. I wouldn't have minded picking up Asante Samuel as we could have afforded it and moved Woodson to safety, but something I like that TT does is use up the current year's cap to keep his current players, and keep them happy. Once he reworked Al's contract, that was the end of the non-football field comments in the press from him. For all the activity, I wasn't greatly impressed with the guys that were FA signings, particularly those signed in our Division, with the exception of Briggs staying with the Bears.

[roidrunner]

but it is sometime nice to talk about someone who we sign. TT is not the big splash type GM. which is annoying to the uninformed fan, but to us it is nice.

[PackerLegend]

Its PackeChatters, I know I know but I figure it could be something to talk about if you wanted.


I was told that Quinn Gray is the leading candidate to be Aaron Rodgers back up. He had a great visit (from what I was told) and the Packers seem to think a deal could get done by the end of the weekend. Gray leads the list, followed by Brunell, Rattay, Culpepper, and Harrington.

I got a message from a friend saying he heard Koren Robinson was NOT going to be a Packers next year. I talked to a few people and they said they haven't heard anything that pointed to a Robinson release.

Ted Thompson was at the University of Wisconsin's Pro Day yesterday. I heard that the Packers have requested coaches film on Jack Ikegwuonu, who still hasn't had his surgery on that knee he injured working out.

I heard that J.D. Booty, Josh Johnson, Erik Ainge, Andre Woodson and John Flacco are looked upon highly by the Packers scouts.

The Packers expect an answer by Brandon Chillar by the end of the week. He had a great visit, and the coaching staff hit it off with him (especially Moss). Chillar knows Nick Barnett fairly well (from their days in the PAC 10 and in Southern California) and Barnett is recruiting him hard.

The Packers are still working on a deal with Kris Wilson (the Chiefs TE). Both parties are high on each other from what I gathered now it is just making it happen. The perception is that the two sides should get a deal done soon.

The interest in Tab Perry is for his special teams play. He is a great special teams player and he would be one of the kick returners (along with Robinson/Tramon Williams) and also could battle for the punt return job (with Will Blackmon).

Speaking of Blackmon, the Packers (coaches and Ted Thompson) still are high on him as a player and think he can be a good one, IF he can stay injury free.

I heard the Packers are considering Rick DeMulling as a possible candidate to be a back up OG.

I heard that the Packers have expressed interest in DB Gary Baxter. He has been hurt the last couple years in Cleveland but can play bot CB and S spots.

Again I heard the Packers talking to Atlanta about DeAngelo Hall. With the extra cap space the Packers can afford to pay him, but the questions are how will the addition of Hall (and presumably his new deal) go over with Al Harris and Charles Woodson and how
would they use Hall (as a nickel back or starter)? Another thing to keep in mind is the relationship with Joe Whitt Jr. who was named defensive quality control coach and was Hall's position coach last year in Atlanta.

The Packers have no plans on bringing in Shawn Alexander if he is released by Seattle.

Also, the packers and Steelers are bidding for Tracy White's services and it looks like the Packers are offering slightly more

[The Legend]

Again I heard the Packers talking to Atlanta about DeAngelo Hall. With the extra cap space the Packers can afford to pay him, but the questions are how will the addition of Hall (and presumably his new deal) go over with Al Harris and Charles Woodson and how
would they use Hall (as a nickel back or starter)? Another thing to keep in mind is the relationship with Joe Whitt Jr. who was named defensive quality control coach and was Hall's position coach last year in Atlanta.



if we trade for Hall he will start with the amount of money we will be paying
so that mean Woodson will play Nickle and maybe Safety in 4-3 Formation
and Corner in Nickle, Dime, Quarter, Woodson is a player who can move around
also its not like we dont already have corner at safety in Nick Collins
and i belive Woodson would be a huge upgrade over Collins
so me i wouldnt not be againt getting Hall but i dont like to pay him 7yrs 70 Million

lol maybe we can play Nickle as our default defence jk

[TitleTown088]

Woodson dosen't want to move to saftey, that was a major part of the reason he signed In GB. Also, why would you want to the Packers best corner to safety?

[umphrey]

Harris made the pro bowl last year but I think he is a weak link in our secondary. I hope we replace him soon. He doesn't have the speed or quickness anymore and a lot of his "physical style" is gonna get called as pass interference. It's happening more now that he's older. He also gets embarrassed against any top WRs, not sure if that's a coaching problem though because you can't leave a guy on an island against Burress or Owens like we did to Harris.

[roidrunner]

i dont not think i would be ok with getting hall. i do not doubt his ability i doubt his personality. i just dont think he messes with the team dynamic we have and are creating. he is too much of a me-first personality for me.

[umphrey]

The timing really isn't right for us to get him, we could bring him in in 2 years but he'll probably be locked up long term then. Right now all we have room for at CB is developmental guys or depth signings and I'd be really shocked if we signed a good starting CB to sit on the bench. It's kind of rude to Harris and Woodson too, they have good chemistry and it would be like shoving them out the door.

[roughrider30]

i dont not think i would be ok with getting hall. i do not doubt his ability i doubt his personality. i just dont think he messes with the team dynamic we have and are creating. he is too much of a me-first personality for me.

I agree, I like Hall as a player and I think he does have a lot of talent. But I don't think he will mesh well with the team, and it could create some problems with Harris and Woodson. I think I would rather have TT continue to build the CB position through the draft.

[Pacific]

I think we should stick with what we've got and focus on a couple DB's in the draft. Woodson is solid when healthy and Harris is doing his job for now (though I agree with Umphrey that he is kind of overrated). Rather than trading for Hall, I would prefer to package some picks and trade up to try to take DRC. I think we'd probably need to get up to the 8-10 area and unfortunately that would cost us our first 3 picks, but I think it would be worth it. I was blown away by him at the combine. I highly doubt TT would even consider this though.

[umphrey]

There are a lot of people that consider DRC a late first rounder, though with his combine I'd be pretty surprised if there wasn't a team in the teens that falls in love with him. We could probably use our 1st and 2nd to move up to 17-19, and I was thinking we might pick him up that way, if he falls a little bit and we would just have to move up 10 picks. Not likely though, I'm happy having 3 picks in the first 2 rounds with the way this years draft is structured.

[Yatta!]

There's no need to overspend on Hall atm, never mind what the trade price will be. I would much rather take a CB in the draft, who fits the system and train him up to become the eventual starter.

[619]

There's no need to overspend on Hall atm, never mind what the trade price will be. I would much rather take a CB in the draft, who fits the system and train him up to become the eventual starter.

If the asking price was the Packers first I don't see why they wouldn't consider the move. There isn't a corner in the draft with even close to as much potential as Hall and at age 24 he hasn't even fulfilled his entire promise. Also character concerns are a non-issue imo.

[Yatta!]

If the asking price was the Packers first I don't see why they wouldn't consider the move. There isn't a corner in the draft with even close to as much potential as Hall and at age 24 he hasn't even fulfilled his entire promise. Also character concerns are a non-issue imo.

I agree that Hall is a quality player and is yet to fulfill his entire potential. However, I don't think that we should upset the balance of our secondary by benching either of our current CBs or moving Woodson to safety, where he is unproven. Hall will not want to be a Nickel back and therefore I would prefer to draft a CB. There is enough depth for us to be able to pick up someone in the second, who could fill the starting role in a few years to a good standard.

[Pacific]

I think I'd still prefer to hold off on getting Hall, but if we did acquire him, I think we would move Harris rather than Woodson. Hall and Woodson could be the starters on the outside and I think Harris could be a great nickel. He could play the slot receiver, and his bumping, physical style could be more effective at breaking up the short crossing routes typically run by slot receivers (i.e. Wes Welker).

[johbur]

It's been two years since Woodson came here. If he moved to safety he could extend his career a number of years like Rod Woodson. Harris, Hall, Woodson and either Rouse, Bigby or Collins would be a contender for the best secondary in the NFL. Toss in an athletic LB in R2 and the defense would be set and stout.

[roidrunner]

i disagree for the fact that i would not think woodson would do it. also Hall doesnt fit our team personality, let him go be someone else's problem. lets go into the draft to find someone.

[The Legend]

thats the problem will woodson be willing to move to safety?

[Nitschke-Hawk]

The problem with moving either Harris or Woodson to safety is this: Harris isn't that good in space, in zone coverage. (Might be better against TE's and stuff though) I don't think he'd have trouble tackling. Woodson could have a far better future at Safety than anybody on our roster and if he plays out the length of his contract there's a pretty good chance he'd move to Safety at some point. But right now, he's our most well rounded CB and what he does meshes perfectly with Harris' style. If it were a year from now I think the chances would be a lot higher of it happening but I would like it to happen this year. (the D Hall trade I mean)

[GB12]

I think I'd still prefer to hold off on getting Hall, but if we did acquire him, I think we would move Harris rather than Woodson. Hall and Woodson could be the starters on the outside and I think Harris could be a great nickel. He could play the slot receiver, and his bumping, physical style could be more effective at breaking up the short crossing routes typically run by slot receivers (i.e. Wes Welker).
Woodson plays the slot in nickel.

[roidrunner]

my problem with moving woodson is this. he is one of the best, why move him??? if it aint broke why fix it.

[roidrunner]

rotoworld:

Packers MLB Nick Barnett pleaded no contest to disorderly conduct charges stemming from an incident at an Appleton nightclub last summer.
Barnett allegedly hit drinks out of two women's hands, then knocked one to the floor. He won't have a criminal record, but may still face NFL discipline.

[PackerLegend]

rotoworld:

Packers MLB Nick Barnett pleaded no contest to disorderly conduct charges stemming from an incident at an Appleton nightclub last summer.
Barnett allegedly hit drinks out of two women's hands, then knocked one to the floor. He won't have a criminal record, but may still face NFL discipline.

I sure hope he doesn't have to face discipline and the suspended him some games.

[someone447]

thats the problem will woodson be willing to move to safety?

Wasn't Woodsons problem with moving to safety was that he would only get safety money? He doesn't have to worry about that since he has a long term contract.

[Twiddler]

I sure hope he doesn't have to face discipline and the suspended him some games.

I hope he doesn't either but I wouldn't disagree with it if it happened.

[someone447]

I hope he doesn't either but I wouldn't disagree with it if it happened.

He won't be suspended, he only got disorderly conduct. If anything, he gets fined and has to go to an alcohol/anger management class.

[neko4]

rotoworld:

Packers MLB Nick Barnett pleaded no contest to disorderly conduct charges stemming from an incident at an Appleton nightclub last summer.
Barnett allegedly hit drinks out of two women's hands, then knocked one to the floor. He won't have a criminal record, but may still face NFL discipline.
isnt this the 2nd time he did it?

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Well hopefully it's almost over with...

[Yatta!]

isnt this the 2nd time he did it?

The charges stem from the incident last summer, so its all the same thing I believe.

[johbur]

With the way his plea-deal is, I would be surprised if he's fined by the NFL. If he stays out of trouble, the second misdemeanor is dropped and the first drops to a civil-citation. That means there will be no criminal matter. No criminal matter should equate to no discipline from the league.

[GB12]

Well guys, I hate to break it to you but we've just lost an important part of our team. The Ravens have signed Frank Walker.

[princefielder28]

Well guys, I hate to break it to you but we've just lost an important part of our team. The Ravens have signed Frank Walker.

I saw that too...it really brought down my day

[TitleTown088]

Wasn't he already "gone" because he only had a one year contract? Either way, that chump will not be missed.

[roidrunner]

i think i am going to breakbroken......


HAHAHA, no real loss

[mqtirishfan]

First Favre, now Walker. :(

[PackerLegend]

We need to dump Jarret Bush as well since he isnt a free agent like Walker. Please please please please

[bigboiajhawk]

I see that the lions dropped Kevin Jones, a guy I really like, and have always feared when he is healthy. Are any of you surprised that the lions released him? I wouldnt mind seeing him join the packers. I would rather see him than a draft pick on a running back. Do any of you want him on the packers team?

[PackerLegend]

I see that the lions dropped Kevin Jones, a guy I really like, and have always feared when he is healthy. Are any of you surprised that the lions released him? I wouldnt mind seeing him join the packers. I would rather see him than a draft pick on a running back. Do any of you want him on the packers team?

I would want him on the Packers for the right price.

[vikes_28]

I would want him on the Packers for the right price.

kevin jones is good when he is healthy. i think ryan grant is obviously the future of the packers. as well as greg jennings. i as a vikes fan am afraid of ryan grant...the pack dont need kevin jones.

[Twiddler]

kevin jones is good when he is healthy. i think ryan grant is obviously the future of the packers. as well as greg jennings. i as a vikes fan am afraid of ryan grant...the pack dont need kevin jones.

We actually really could use a guy like him. Granted, I think it would create a very crowded backfield but if Ryan Grant doesn't end up turning out then who do we have? Brandon Jackson, Vernand Morency, Noah Herron, and DeShawn Wynn don't strike fear in the hearts of many (although I'm going to be patient with Jackson). Sure, there are other areas that are a bigger need but we have a lot of cap and tandem RB's is a trend nowadays. At the right price it would be a good move.

[The Legend]

Wasn't Woodsons problem with moving to safety was that he would only get safety money? He doesn't have to worry about that since he has a long term contract.

if thats the case now the hes paid big time money
maybe he willing to move but Wood is awsome at CB

[Twiddler]

if thats the case now the hes paid big time money
maybe he willing to move but Wood is awsome at CB

Right now, yes. But in time his age will catch up with him (Harris too) and safety might be a better option.

[neko4]

forum voting mock, we're up
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19402&page=16

[vikes_28]

We actually really could use a guy like him. Granted, I think it would create a very crowded backfield but if Ryan Grant doesn't end up turning out then who do we have? Brandon Jackson, Vernand Morency, Noah Herron, and DeShawn Wynn don't strike fear in the hearts of many (although I'm going to be patient with Jackson). Sure, there are other areas that are a bigger need but we have a lot of cap and tandem RB's is a trend nowadays. At the right price it would be a good move.

true. i wasnt aware of the crappy back-ups that the pack had. morency is ok, but the other three ive never even heard of. maybe the pack can have a good running tandem like another team in their division :)

[Pacific]

I value Jackson a heck of a lot more than I do Morency. Morency has little or no value to us at this point, even though I think he's a decent runner. I think signing Kevin Jones to go with Grant and Jackson would be a great move. I hope TT pursues him.

[roidrunner]

kevin jones has never really impressed me, i would just rather go into the draft to find one first

[johbur]

Right now, yes. But in time his age will catch up with him (Harris too) and safety might be a better option.

I love Wood at CB, but just like Rod Woodson, once your speed slips at CB, a move to safety can be huge for the team and for the career if you have those ball skills. I actually don't think Harris would make a good safety. Wood has those skills of tracking the ball as a PR and could play the whole field.

The best thing about "losing" Walker is that he signed a decent contract and depending if the Packers bring anyone in, he'd give them a compensatory pick for "losing" his worthless self. I'd just assume get a pair of rookie CBs to compete at that spot.

If Kevin Jones was reasonably to be had, he'd be worth bringing in for TC and letting him compete. I personally like the competition that is shaping up for RB with Herron (who has performed solidly every game he's in), Wynn (performed well prior to his injury), Jackson (rookie showed promise and is great on teams) and Morency (I'd just assume move on from him) fighting for the two spots behind Grant. Toss in a UDFA or two and if someone slides in the draft there'll be another RB.

[ImBrotherCain]

So guys i keep thinking... and in my Al Davis mind frame of loving "Freaks" If Gholston fell to us for some reason (Nothing bad) would you guys take him over a CB or another need position.

[Gravedigger42]

It would never happen but if it did it would take me all of 1 second to announce him as the Packers pick. If I were GM that is. You can't pass up a beast like that at #30.

[The Legend]

i would give both my nuts for Gholston

but the kid ran a 4.58 bench 37 times and jump a 42 verticall
he could step on someones leg
open a dog fighting house
go all pacman & chris henry
still wouldnt make it to #30

[princefielder28]

So guys i keep thinking... and in my Al Davis mind frame of loving "Freaks" If Gholston fell to us for some reason (Nothing bad) would you guys take him over a CB or another need position.

it would never happen

[ImBrotherCain]

Well i know it would never happen... but as far as im concerned he is #2 on my Big Board behind McFadden and i was just wondering if other people would draft on talent or need if he some how fell to us.

[princefielder28]

Well i know it would never happen... but as far as im concerned he is #2 on my Big Board behind McFadden and i was just wondering if other people would draft on talent or need if he some how fell to us.

You go with the BPA instead of reaching in round one so obviously it would be a slam dunk....I would agree that is probably the number two prospect of this draft as well

[TitleTown088]

Well guys, I hate to break it to you but we've just lost an important part of our team. The Ravens have signed Frank Walker.
I just saw that the packers were actually trying to re-sign him, but he left because of PT. Icky.

[Twiddler]

I just saw that the packers were actually trying to re-sign him, but he left because of PT. Icky.

Wow, awesome sig there. But yeah, that does kind of suck.

[ImBrotherCain]

You go with the BPA instead of reaching in round one so obviously it would be a slam dunk....I would agree that is probably the number two prospect of this draft as well

Well with all the CB's availible there really isnt a reach at that point but do you take a DE/ Blitzing OLB even though we have Kampy and Jenkins / KGB and seeing as we dont really blitz the hell out of the QB i dont know if he would fit.... But i would take him in a heart beat.

[Pacific]

I think if TT went BPA last year with Harrell and the D-Line situation we had then, there is no question we'd take Gholston this year. No way it actually happens though.

[TitleTown088]

Rodgers is getting buck in Alaska. http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080314/PKR01/803140642/1989
"Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers once again found himself facing the rear ends of several athletes poised for action. This time, it wasn't 300-pound linemen waiting for the 'hike' but a team of jumping, barking and impatient sled dogs."

[Pack_Attack_4]

So guys i keep thinking... and in my Al Davis mind frame of loving "Freaks" If Gholston fell to us for some reason (Nothing bad) would you guys take him over a CB or another need position.

Obvi hes a top 10 pick easily

[GB12]

Looks like Thompson has a lot more faith in Poppinga than most of us here do.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=728441
Trying to sign him up long term. I like Poppinga would be fine with him starting again, but when you look at the weak spots on our defense after safety it's him. Just a little surprised that the team feels that strongly about him. I would have thought we'd wait until he plays another year and then resign him next year when his contract is up if he preforms well. I actually would kind of like this. It's not like he's going to cost a lot and we have plenty of cap room to sign him. My guess is it'd be in the area of 4 years $15 million or so. We could put a hefty portion of that on the first year which would clear us for the future. Then we either have our linebackers set for years or if we do decide he has to be replaced he becomes a good backup and special teamer for a reasonable price.

[Pacific]

Looks like Thompson has a lot more faith in Poppinga than most of us here do.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=728441
Trying to sign him up long term. I like Poppinga would be fine with him starting again, but when you look at the weak spots on our defense after safety it's him. Just a little surprised that the team feels that strongly about him. I would have thought we'd wait until he plays another year and then resign him next year when his contract is up if he preforms well. I guess we can cross Dan Connor off as a possibility in the draft.

As far as I'm concerned, that's a good thing. I've never wanted to see Connor in a Packers uniform.

[FLORIDA PACKER]

As far as I'm concerned, that's a good thing. I've never wanted to see Connor in a Packers uniform.

Totally agree, Popps is one of my favorite players, the physicality and intensity he brings to the defense is umatched.

[someone447]

Looks like Thompson has a lot more faith in Poppinga than most of us here do.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=728441
Trying to sign him up long term. I like Poppinga would be fine with him starting again, but when you look at the weak spots on our defense after safety it's him. Just a little surprised that the team feels that strongly about him. I would have thought we'd wait until he plays another year and then resign him next year when his contract is up if he preforms well. I actually would kind of like this. It's not like he's going to cost a lot and we have plenty of cap room to sign him. My guess is it'd be in the area of 4 years $15 million or so. We could put a hefty portion of that on the first year which would clear us for the future. Then we either have our linebackers set for years or if we do decide he has to be replaced he becomes a good backup and special teamer for a reasonable price.

I do have one thing to say about Poppinga. My trainer, who is very, very good at recognizing talent, was really impressed with Poppinga.

[johbur]

I like B-Pop and how he stays with the team for a reasonable price. He's a locker room and weight room leader. He is not, however, all that great in coverage and I'd like to see a kid like Mayo brought aboard so that when we play our base 4-3, we're not exposed with him in coverage. I also wonder if he didn't have to worry about the coverage issues whether he could get back to rushing the passer. He played a good amount of DE in college and is an excellent blitzer, an area that this defense has not used him for due to the scheme.

[umphrey]

I always kind of got that feeling about Poppinga, that the coaches/players like him more than the fans do. I hear about a lot of people wanting a more athletic LB who can cover better to replace him but that's not really his job...we would have to run different plays/schemes defensively for that. I'm pretty indifferent on replacing him, I just want depth at the position

[umphrey]

I'm gonna go ahead and talk up 2 players I really like going into 08-

Aaron Rodgers. Obvoius choice I guess but I support him more than most people I've talked to. This guy can lead the team and he's a very good player, also an awesome fit for the offense. Not saying he's better than Favre but his style is better for McCarthy's offense. He will probably be more consistent. I really like his ability to scramble and make throws, and his arm strength and accuracy. He will probably have bad games but it's far from throwing a rookie into the starting lineup.
2 concerns: staying healthy and throwing the deep ball

Deshawn Wynn. He's not our starter but he's a much better RB than he gets credit for. A lot of people forget how good he looked when he took the job from Jackson. They are different backs but as far as I'm concerned neither has proved to be more valuable. He left 07 early because of injures so that's a big question mark on the guy. He has to stay healthy to climb the ranks. If you forget draft position and health I think Wynn easily our #2, so he just has to overcome that.
(just for the record, I think Morency is pretty useless)

Another 08 prediction: Either Barbe or Coston will take a guard spot and run away with it.

[princefielder28]

If we are comfortable with Brady, are we gonna trade up then and try and land a Mike Jenkins or DRC?

[Meta4]

I like Poppinga but we really need to bring somebody in to challenge him. The fact that he cant cover the tight end really hurts us.

[Meta4]

Looks like the Pack may be interested in AJ Feely.


Sources have told PFW that there are grains of truth to the A.J. Feeley-to-Green Bay rumors. Kevin Kolb is expected to be promoted to back up Donovan McNabb, which would make Feeley an expensive No. 3. But you might add Minnesota, which seeks a veteran, to the list of teams interested, and, of course, Feeley knows Brad Childress’ system well from their days together in Philadelphia. Don't be surprised if something happens on or before Draft Day.

[neko4]

Im fine with Brady, this year should be his breakout season. Its his 3rd year as a starter next year right?

[Yatta!]

Looks like the Pack may be interested in AJ Feely.

That would be a pretty nice pick up, Feeley could solidfy the backup position.

[Hawk]

I'd like to keep our picks and sign a FA

[NAVY]

IMO Pops is an average starter who seems to be consistant and get the job done. Nothing spectacular. But he DOES seem to get better each year. There is a chance that Hodge could challenge him this year if he is a little faster. Hodge was great in college, and when he started for Barnett as a rookie he was a little over aggressive, but he has gained experience since then. I am hoping he comes on strong this year.

Lets not forget that grant came into his own in his second/third year. So there is still the possibility of Jackson or Wynn breaking out this year as well. I say forget about Jones.

Has the pack shown any significant interest in anyone this year? I haven't seen it...

[GB12]

IMO Pops is an average starter who seems to be consistant and get the job done. Nothing spectacular. But he DOES seem to get better each year. There is a chance that Hodge could challenge him this year if he is a little faster. Hodge was great in college, and when he started for Barnett as a rookie he was a little over aggressive, but he has gained experience since then. I am hoping he comes on strong this year.
Hodge won't challenge Poppinga. If Hodge is ever going to be a starter in this league it's going to have to be inside.

[Pacific]

Yeah, it's a bad situation here for Hodge with Barnett securely in the middle. I think Hodge is talented enough that he could definitely play his way into a starting job somewhere else. I don't want to lose him though.

[PackerLegend]

Hodge was great in college, and when he started for Barnett as a rookie he was a little over aggressive, but he has gained experience since then.



Since when is sitting out the entire year on injured resevre called gaining experience? Maybe in the playbooks but you need to be on the field.

[bigboiajhawk]

I am surprised that hodge hasnt been involved in any trades, because I think he would be a stud in a 3-4 defense as an ILB. I just hope he can get healthy, because being a hawkeye fan I want to see him be a success.

[johbur]

I was totally stoked when the Packers drafted Hodge, but how he does this year will likely involve whether his knees are OK. Difficult to put out 100% when you have tendinitis in both knees. I still like Hodge for backing up Barnett, and with a good off-season, maybe he can challenge B-Pop. He had all of last year to memorize the playbook and watch tape, so now we'll see if he's physically able o do what he did in college, which was dominate at a level equal to AJ Hawk.

[PackerLegend]

Hodge better start doing something because the clocks ticking and if he doesnt prove anything soon he is as good as gone.

[PACKmanN]

well if Hodge could develop, Barnett said he will play the WILL position. That would allow us to move Hawk to the SAM, but I doubt that would happen.

[NAVY]

well if Hodge could develop, Barnett said he will play the WILL position. That would allow us to move Hawk to the SAM, but I doubt that would happen.

I thought barnett didnt want to move....

[ChezPower4]

well if Hodge could develop, Barnett said he will play the WILL position. That would allow us to move Hawk to the SAM, but I doubt that would happen.

That would be a waste, AJ Hawk is a natural Will. He could play the Sam but i think that he would not be utilizing his great physical and athletic ability

[Yatta!]

There was talk of Barnett moving last year but it never happened, and it seems pointless to move him after a career year. Personally, I think our starters on D will remain the same over the offseason. We're likely to add depth through the draft and I expect there to be competition for places at SAM and safety but I just don't see the need in changing a winning formula just for the sake of it.

[NAVY]

So if Chris Williams is still available in the first, do we take him over a CB?

I say yes. I have seen a lot of mocks that have him falling past GB into the top of the second....

[bearsfan_51]

So if Chris Williams is still available in the first, do we take him over a CB?

I say yes. I have seen a lot of mocks that have him falling past GB into the top of the second....
The only mock I've seen have that is Billingsly, and he's a moron.

[GB12]

well if Hodge could develop, Barnett said he will play the WILL position. That would allow us to move Hawk to the SAM, but I doubt that would happen.
Barnett never said that. Ever. He said that he didn't want to move from the middle. That'd be incredibly stupid to move Hawk to SLB anyway. If we do ever end up switching around the LBs it'd be to put Hawk in the middle.

There was talk of Barnett moving last year but it never happened, and it seems pointless to move him after a career year. Personally, I think our starters on D will remain the same over the offseason. We're likely to add depth through the draft and I expect there to be competition for places at SAM and safety but I just don't see the need in changing a winning formula just for the sake of it.
That was just talk by us during a slow offseason. There was never really a chance for that to actually happen and we (at least most of us) knew that. It's not just this past season that makes it dumb to move Barnett, it's his whole career. He's played great at MLB since he was a rookie. When you look around the league at other MLBs the list is very short of who I'd take over Barnett. This makes the Hodge situation a little complicated now. I love having him as depth, but as previously stated he doesn't have a chance at cracking the starting lineup. When his contract runs up I doubt he'll want to resign with us. I think we should try to trade him after next season.

[umphrey]

So if Chris Williams is still available in the first, do we take him over a CB?

I say yes. I have seen a lot of mocks that have him falling past GB into the top of the second....

Well it depends on our opinion of him but I really, really think CB gets addressed in round 2, unless TT sees an opportunity to get DRC for acceptable value (unlikely). I think we go OL or DL in round 1 with OT being the most likely, but it really depends on whose there.

[roidrunner]

the thing is i dont really see anyone of great value dropping to us. thats why i think a trade out is most plausible. i mean for OL who would we get Sam Baker???

[mqtirishfan]

well if Hodge could develop, Barnett said he will play the WILL position. That would allow us to move Hawk to the SAM, but I doubt that would happen.

So we take a great MLB and move him outside, and take a top 5 pick and move him to a position where he'll leave the field on third downs. Brilliant!

Also, what is with this Abdul Hodge love? He's shown nothing since he got to camp.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=728810

Trace White signs a 2 year deal to stay in GB.

I'm glad he's back. Special teams standout, our best backup LB.

[Yatta!]

Good to see White back, one of my favourite players.

[Pack_Attack_4]

White turned down more $ from Pit to stay in GB.

[umphrey]

Scotts new mock: Ugh, hate the Flowers pick. Well not so much hate it that it has 0% chance of happening. There is no way we draft a guy with character concerns in round 1 and he is below our minimum height requirements for a CB (he is 5'9"). Granted I don't know that for fact it makes a lot of sense because you can't have a man corner that is 4 inches shorter than the average receiver.

[Pacific]

Scotts new mock: Ugh, hate the Flowers pick. Well not so much hate it that it has 0% chance of happening. There is no way we draft a guy with character concerns in round 1 and he is below our minimum height requirements for a CB (he is 5'9"). Granted I don't know that for fact it makes a lot of sense because you can't have a man corner that is 4 inches shorter than the average receiver.

Granted, Plax isn't average, he's a beast, but I think we all saw how important corner height was in the championship game. Harris had no shot from the beginning.

I personally like Flowers, but would rather wait and try to get him in the 2nd if we went that direction. I'm still holding out hope for either Talib or Cason in the 1st instead.

[PackerLegend]

Packerchatters again... I know people dislike them because like nothing they say is ever right but I just like reading it.

On The Streets
March 17, 2008
Written by Joe Arrigo - PackerChatters Staff



The Packers were 1 of 6 other teams that was in talks to land DeAngelo Hall (Oakland, J-Ville, New York, Washington and Dallas) before the Raiders won the rights to him. The Falcons wanted the Packers first rounder or both 2's for Hall, who wants to be the highest paid CB in the NFL.

OL Max Starks name has came up as a player of interest for the Packers according to a source of mine.

The Packers offer to Kris Wilson is MORE THEN FAIR for a player that will be a back-up TE from what I heard. He is mulling offers from Green Bay, Tampa Bay and an undisclosed 3rd team.

The Cardinals are the front runner for Brandon Chillar because he wants to be close to his family in California I heard. Green Bay has a more then fair offer on the table and are said to have told him that he will compete for the SAM spot, but the Cards offered him the starting spot.

Tracy White's resigning for 2 years and $1.8 million with a $250,000 signing bonus was slightly more then the deal the Packers had on the table after the season ended. At the end of the day the Packers wanted White but more importantly White wanted to stay in Green Bay.

The Packers have offered Quinn Gray more money then Oakland, but their are a few things wearying on Gray about his decision. He is concerned that he won't be the #2 in Oakland (Andrew Walter would be). He is also concerned about his fit in Green Bay. But, from what I got, the Packers and Raiders are the only 2 teams really talking serious to him and the offer the Raiders have made is way below what the Packers offered.

The Packers have called the Raiders about Nnamdi Asomugha, but the Raiders want a 1st and a conditional pick next year. My source said the odd man out in Oakland is former 1st round pick Fabian Washington and he may be cut and the Packers would be a team that has interest in him.

The Packers are quietly talking to Greg Jennings agent about a deal to lock him up long term. The are also talking to Nick Collins about a long term deal "on the low".

Players I have recently heard tied to the Packers in round 1 are Antoine Cason, Kenny Phillips, Jonathan Stewart, Tracy Porter, Fred Davis and Brian Brohm.

The Packers do have interest in Kevin Jones form what I understand.

[roidrunner]

Brian Brohm????


If that happened i should **** a brick. but i dont think that will happen. we have not even seen what Rodgers can do yet. does that mean we are already showing signs of giving up on him?

[Yatta!]

Bubba found a new home with the Jets, will be interesting to see how much he gets (money wise).
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3297633

And Brohm?!? wtf

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Granted, Plax isn't average, he's a beast, but I think we all saw how important corner height was in the championship game. Harris had no shot from the beginning.

I personally like Flowers, but would rather wait and try to get him in the 2nd if we went that direction. I'm still holding out hope for either Talib or Cason in the 1st instead.

Yeah, and Al's about 6'1'', skinny, super long arms and strong as hell. Double coverage could've fixed what Plax was doing but anyway... I like Flowers but I only trust CB's that short if they're in the slot... or on a WR about 6 feet or under. He'd an absolute perfect fit if he was about 6 feet tall, but if he were that tall he might be a pick in the 10-20 area. Higher if he ran a good 40.

[princefielder28]

Brian Brohm????


If that happened i should **** a brick. but i dont think that will happen. we have not even seen what Rodgers can do yet. does that mean we are already showing signs of giving up on him?

Packers will not look at QB until round 4 or 5

[GB12]

Yeah... that doesn't help your case for posting crap from that site.

[NAVY]

I'd like to see them develope some QB's like they used to. 4-6th round seems about right. I'm still not sold on CB in the 1st round. Dropping back 6-9 spots and drafting a good TE sounds better. Then using the extra picks for future starters/challengers.

[roidrunner]

purely speculation
Rotoworld:
Coach Mike Shanahan personally phoned free agent FB Cecil Sapp on Monday to submit the Broncos' latest contract proposal.

After he fired GM Ted Sundquist, Shanny might have to get used to things like this for awhile. Sapp's agent says he's deciding between the Broncos and two other teams. We're guessing, but the Chiefs and Packers may be them.

[roidrunner]

Also here is something on "grabby Smurf" incase you wondered where he ended up

Rotoworld:
Former Packers first-round pick Ahmad Carroll is currently playing for the Arena League's Orlando Predators.

Carroll's last tryout for an NFL team was with the Jets in December. The Preds are coached by Jay Gruden, Jon's younger brother. "He has a ton of talent, but he hasn't done anything in a game for us yet," Jay said of Carroll.

[johbur]

Also here is something on "grabby Smurf" incase you wondered where he ended up

Rotoworld:
Former Packers first-round pick Ahmad Carroll is currently playing for the Arena League's Orlando Predators.

Carroll's last tryout for an NFL team was with the Jets in December. The Preds are coached by Jay Gruden, Jon's younger brother. "He has a ton of talent, but he hasn't done anything in a game for us yet," Jay said of Carroll.

That's hysterical. It makes me wonder if Carroll is a junkie or alcoholic or whether he just suffers from rectal-cranial inversion. How can you have that level of physical skills and not even be able to make an impact in Arena Ball?

[The Legend]

any truth to us trying to sign Poppinga to a 5yr 15 Million deal?

[princefielder28]

any truth to us trying to sign Poppinga to a 5yr 15 Million deal?

I know they were working on an extension and those numbers seem to be in the ballpark

[RockJock07]

I would rather see Jennings get his extension first, then Jolly, then brady. I know the packers don't have to go out and spend money, i'm just wondering if TT is setting his sights for someone in the future.

I think we all realize that TT is never going to make a splash in FA but it would be nice to add an impact player when one comes around. Maybe a julius Peppers, the guy is so sick but offhand I don't know his contract status.

As far as Packerchatters goes, I would love all of those guys in round 1 except Brohm. I think people are making a big deal about him not going to the senior bowl but I don't see the need to take him unless he falls to round 3 or something like that. Stewart is gonna be there now, but scott has the giants taking Phillips which if he's there, the packers shouldn't need any more than 10 seconds to get there pick in.

about a month, i love this time of year.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Packers sign Brandon Chillar

http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/03/19/chillar-takes-packers-offer.aspx

[Twiddler]

Packers sign Brandon Chillar

http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/03/19/chillar-takes-packers-offer.aspx

Alright! Good to see.

[princefielder28]

Packers sign Brandon Chillar

http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/03/19/chillar-takes-packers-offer.aspx

Big fan of the signing and he adds to the youth of the team

[GB12]

Big fan of the signing and he adds to the youth of the team
He actually might raise the average age.

Love the signing. With the Cardinals clearing out cap space and the statement we made about Poppinga I didn't think it was going to happen, but I'm glad it did. This lowers the need for a LB in the draft by a lot. We no longer have to draft one at all, but I'd still like to see us take a mid rounder. Really all we need in the draft now is a CB, after that we can go anywhere. We're set up nicely to just grab the best talent and not have to worry too much about the position. Also I'm still holing out hope that we could trade up for one of the top corners. There's really no legit reason to why we couldn't other than everyone's going to say "Ted Thompson doesn't trade up".

[cordscords]

Love the Chillar signing :)

[Smokey]

A good signing. Should create competion at the SAM and if Pop or Chill loses out they will serve as an excellent backup and special teams player.

I am interested to see how Chillar's signing affects the rumored negotiations with Poppinga.

[roidrunner]

i like the signing. we actually signed someone that i can look forward to, un like last year.

[neko4]

unless some how, Rivers falls, or connor falls into the 2nd, LB is off the list. Brady and Chillar competeing for the job should be nice. Plus Brady could maybe move back to DE. I dont know how good he would be, but maybe he could takeover for KGB.

[bigboiajhawk]

unless some how, Rivers falls, or connor falls into the 2nd, LB is off the list. Brady and Chillar competeing for the job should be nice. Plus Brady could maybe move back to DE. I dont know how good he would be, but maybe he could takeover for KGB.


That would be interesting, and one thing for sure, brady is going to work his hardest to keep his job, so this signing is going to help our defense for sure. Our D is going to be so dominant this year, I cant wait. I think the Poppinga/Chillar battle and the safety battle this year should be fun to watch at training camp. I like how TT didnt give in and overspend on chillar too. He made his offer, maybe not the best offer out there, but he did not waver and give more money.

[ChezPower4]

Packers sign Brandon Chillar

http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/03/19/chillar-takes-packers-offer.aspx

Love that pick up, even if he doesn't start he adds great depth and puts serious pressure on brady pop.

[Goatboy1717]

Love the pick up. I dont think we need to address LB until the mid rounds now. The two needs that I see are at CB and TE and maybe add a little depth to our O-Line.

[Hawk]

Love the pick up. I dont think we need to address LB until the mid rounds now. The two needs that I see are at CB and TE and maybe add a little depth to our O-Line.

I can see offensive line being addressed first at #30. Typical TT to continue building from the inside out. And then with the 2 2nd round picks, 2 cornerbacks are taken, say Lee and Godfrey.

[Smokey]

I can see offensive line being addressed first at #30. Typical TT to continue building from the inside out. And then with the 2 2nd round picks, 2 cornerbacks are taken, say Lee and Godfrey.

Agreed. I think if none of the top corners fall an OT at #30 might be where Thompson's looking.

[roidrunner]

im doing the group mock for the packers. it is three rounds, any preference on what i should do?

[Yatta!]

Nice Chillar signing. I got all excited by us actually doing something in FA. It'll be interesting to see of ends up starting.

And roidrunner: CB, TE, OL and maybe a DE but really I would love to see us trade up for one of the top tier corners.

[jackalope]

Just got back from Jamaica and finished reading what i missed in this thread.

I like the Chillar sining. He will at least provide competition for Popinga. I do like Popinga though, and I'll be hoping for him to win the job.

[PackerLegend]

Packers re-signed exclusive rights free agent TE Tory Humphrey.

If the Packers don't draft a field stretching No. 2 tight end, it's because of their faith in Humphrey. He's currently Donald Lee's top backup, and despite coming off a broken leg, Green Bay is said to be very high on him.

Packers re-signed FB John Kuhn, an exclusive rights free agent.

Kuhn will make $445,000 in 2008, and can be a restricted free agent next offseason. He's Korey Hall's backup at fullback and plays special teams.


Ryan Grant doesn't intend to sign the Packers' one-year exclusive rights free agent offer of $370,000.

It's hard to blame Grant after he averaged 5.1 YPC in 2007 and scored eight TDs. He does plan to attend the offseason conditioning program. The Pack ought to ante up and give him a fair two- or three-year deal. While Grant has little leverage as an ERFA, the club is nearly $35 million under the cap.

[PackerLegend]

more on Ryan Grant

Grant will do offseason workouts but won't sign minimum tender

By Pete Dougherty
pdougher@greenbaypressgazette.com

Ryan Grant will work with the Green Bay Packers in the offseason without a contract, but to get him to training camp the Packers will have to sign him to a contract well above the NFL minimum for a second-year pro.


Grant, who rose from the bottom of the Packers’ depth chart to become one of the NFL’s most productive runners in the second half of last season, has not signed a contract but nevertheless is taking part in the team’s offseason workout program, which started Monday.

His agent, Alan Herman, said Grant will take part in all the team’s minicamps and workouts this spring, but that he will not sign the $370,000 minimum tender for an exclusive-rights player who has only one accrued season in the NFL. Grant is looking for a longer, far more lucrative deal after he rushed for 956 yards and averaged 5.1 yards a carry despite being the team’s primary halfback for only the final nine games of the season.

Herman said he’s talked to Packers officials about a contract, but that they haven’t begun negotiating.

“I’m optimistic we’re going to move along here and get something done,” Herman said today. “Nothing has begun in terms of the process. But listening to everything that’s coming out of Green Bay in terms of the club taking care of their own, I’m optimistic, and that’s why Ryan is there at this point. He’s participating in the offseason program and we’re looking forward to – let me put it this way, it’s the golden opportunity for the Packers and Ryan Grant to get together on something that will keep him there for the rest of his career.”

Though there are some impediments to a possible deal, there appear to be more factors that should make a resolution likely in the offseason.

Grant has little leverage as far as free agency is concerned, because he won’t be a restricted free agent until 2010 and an unrestricted free agent in ’11. That will force him to ask for a lower price than a player closer to free agency. But he also has to feel some pressure for striking a big deal now, because even though he has only one accrued season in the NFL, he’s been out of college for four years and is 25 years old at a position where players often decline noticeably by age 30.

Grant has the leverage, though, of withholding his services, which would be a major blow to the Packers’ offense. He became a key player last season by resurrecting a poor run game, and the Packers need him in the lineup more than ever to take some pressure off new starting quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

Also, financially the Packers are in excellent position to do a salary-cap friendly deal because they’re about $25 million under the cap now and will be more than $35 million under after former quarterback Brett Favre turns in his retirement papers.

When asked about working out a long-term contract with Grant, Packers General Manager Ted Thompson said: “We like Ryan Grant a lot. I’m not going to speculate on something like that.”

Determining what kind of deal Grant ultimately will sign is difficult because rarely if ever has a player been in the league for only one season and been in a position like him to seek a new deal.

This offseason Seattle signed former Dallas halfback Julius Jones to a four-year deal worth $12 million that includes $5.5 million in bonuses and salary this year. Unlike Grant, he was an unrestricted free agent, but Grant was far more productive – Jones gained 588 yards and averaged 3.6 yards a carry for Dallas last season.

At the extreme in free agency this year, halfback Michael Turner signed a six-year deal with Atlanta worth $34.5 million, including $15 million in guaranteed money. Grant presumably is too far away from free agency to command anything like that kind of guaranteed money.

“(Grant) is there to participate in everything they do (in the offseason),” Herman said. “I’d expect the goodwill on our side to be met with goodwill on their side. So far it’s been great in Green Bay, and I hope it continues that way. Ryan Grant is going to cooperate fully on what’s taking place on a volunteer basis at this point and then we’ll move from there.”

[GB12]

Packers re-signed exclusive rights free agent TE Tory Humphrey.

If the Packers don't draft a field stretching No. 2 tight end, it's because of their faith in Humphrey. He's currently Donald Lee's top backup, and despite coming off a broken leg, Green Bay is said to be very high on him.

Packers re-signed FB John Kuhn, an exclusive rights free agent.

Kuhn will make $445,000 in 2008, and can be a restricted free agent next offseason. He's Korey Hall's backup at fullback and plays special teams.


Ryan Grant doesn't intend to sign the Packers' one-year exclusive rights free agent offer of $370,000.

It's hard to blame Grant after he averaged 5.1 YPC in 2007 and scored eight TDs. He does plan to attend the offseason conditioning program. The Pack ought to ante up and give him a fair two- or three-year deal. While Grant has little leverage as an ERFA, the club is nearly $35 million under the cap.
The Troy Humphrey part doesn't make any sense. He's not a field stretching TE, so I don't see where the connection is there.

Nothing unexpect with Kuhn, but I like to see that.

I saw the Grant thing last night. I'm not worried about it at all. He will play for us next year.

[FLORIDA PACKER]

The Troy Humphrey part doesn't make any sense. He's not a field stretching TE, so I don't see where the connection is there.


He has the Speed and abillity to do so though, he was hurt all last year and didn't have a the chance to prove anything, Heard he had a case of the drops in camp though.

[johbur]

Grant deserves to get paid. I love having Kuhn in camp. Humphrey is not a field-stretching TE, but the team has stated he has the best hands on the whole team, which is why they keep putting him on IR and working with him rather than just moving on. I still want Keller or Martellus in this draft.

[The Legend]

He's not a field stretching TE

Troy Humphrey ran a 4.49 at 255 on his proday the kid is fast
also played a bit of Running back in collage, i like the signing
would like to see if he can block or not
could be a big ST player that speed and size is hard to find

[Pack_Attack_4]

Troy Humphrey ran a 4.49 at 255 on his proday the kid is fast
also played a bit of Running back in collage, i like the signing
would like to see if he can block or not
could be a big ST player that speed and size is hard to find

4.49 sounds like hes a feild streaching TE to me

[umphrey]

I saw the Grant thing last night. I'm not worried about it at all. He will play for us next year.

I agree he will play but I'd rather not piss off our players - his contract is really really low for a starting RB. I'd like to see him get maybe a 4 year contract that is heavily front loaded, since our current cap is in such great shape.

[Pack_Attack_4]

Just saw on NFL network packers sighn BIGby to a 1 year contract

[Yatta!]

Yep here's a link to the Bigby deal. It's just the one year ERFA deal.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3306018

[princefielder28]

Yep here's a link to the Bigby deal. It's just the one year ERFA deal.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3306018

He's playing for a raise this year

[PackerLegend]

Free agent Quinn Gray says he'll sign with the Texans.

"My agent (Drew Rosenhaus) has an agreement in place," he said. "It's a 1-year deal." Gray would've had a much better chance at playing time in either Oakland or Green Bay. He plans on signing a deal for the minimum, so his addition tells us that he's been told Sage Rosenfels is on the trade block.

well so much for Gray to GB... wonder why he would pick the Texans. I sure hope we dont trade for Rosenfels.

[jackalope]

Not too disappointed about not getting Gray. I'm content with having Craig Nall remain the backup.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Plus it's in the same division, same conference that he's been in. It will be an easier transition for him and if he does play he's got a better chance to play well.

[bearsfan_51]

Not too disappointed about not getting Gray. I'm content with having Craig Nall remain the backup.

With Rodgers' injury history I sure hope the Packers FO agrees with you.

[ChezPower4]

He's playing for a raise this year

I think that he's gonna earn that rasie too.

[PACKmanN]

Am I missing something, but why hasn't a team sign Shane Olivea? I wouldn't mind having him play RG for us.

[roidrunner]

i would not mind olivea either. so far in the group mock i traded back our pick to the bears for their second and third.

[Yatta!]

Am I missing something, but why hasn't a team sign Shane Olivea? I wouldn't mind having him play RG for us.

Oliviera seems to be a good player overall but he did get cut just one year into a large extenstion, he must have been playing really badly. Did anyone get to see much of him this year? Theres gotta be a reason for the lack of interest in him.

[mqtirishfan]

Free agent Quinn Gray says he'll sign with the Texans.

"My agent (Drew Rosenhaus) has an agreement in place," he said. "It's a 1-year deal." Gray would've had a much better chance at playing time in either Oakland or Green Bay. He plans on signing a deal for the minimum, so his addition tells us that he's been told Sage Rosenfels is on the trade block.

well so much for Gray to GB... wonder why he would pick the Texans. I sure hope we dont trade for Rosenfels.

Who wrote that article? I'm confused as to how Matt Schaub is somehow harder to beat out as the starter than Rodgers or JaMarcus.

[Pacific]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20080229-9999-1s29chargers.html

Olivea had quietly made known he was unhappy as a Charger in recent months.......Olivea lost his starting job at right tackle to Jeromey Clary in the middle of last season and fell out of favor with coaches over his work ethic and commitment.Evidently it was a work ethic thing that got him released. Chargers GM AJ Smith was quoted in another article saying that he "lost his fire". (http://nwe.scout.com/a.z?s=121&p=2&c=733663)

If he signs with a new team, I'm sure he'll be re-energized though. Sounds like he was pouting after losing his job.

[neko4]

Am I missing something, but why hasn't a team sign Shane Olivea? I wouldn't mind having him play RG for us.
I believe he got worked by Kampman
I have the game recorded so i'll go back and watch it.
LT started out the year bad, maybe he had something to do with it
Notice how late in the year LT did good

[GB12]

Who wrote that article? I'm confused as to how Matt Schaub is somehow harder to beat out as the starter than Rodgers or JaMarcus.
Texans | Team signs Gray
Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:58:14 -0700
Updating a previous report, The Associated Press reports the Houston Texans (http://www.kffl.com/team/18/nfl) have signed unrestricted free-agent QB Quinn Gray (http://www.kffl.com/player/7169/nfl) (Jaguars) to a one-year deal. Financial terms were not disclosed, but it has been reported the contract is worth $635,000 with a $40,000 signing bonus.

That looks like we didn't have intentions to sign him. If we wanted him we could have easily got him.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Olivea had a semi serious injury last year too.

[PACKmanN]

IMO, I think the Chargers played him out of position, he is a RG. why don't we have the signing bonuses within the years of the contract, so we don't pay him up front.

[TitleTown088]

Teddy named NFL executive of the year by sporting news.

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2008/03/25/1/

[neko4]

wooo!
32 of 45 guys aquired during ted's reign

[princefielder28]

Teddy named NFL executive of the year by sporting news.

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2008/03/25/1/

Well deserved....4-12 to 8-8 to 13-3 and NFC Championship appearance

[roidrunner]

just a little something i found on CNNSI

When quarterback Brett Favre turns in his retirement papers, the Packers will strike $11.4 million from payroll and quite possibly lead the NFL in available salary cap room. Favre has not yet filed his official papers, however, and it's unclear when he will. His agent, James "Bus" Cook, said he had no idea where Favre was in the process of filing the paperwork that would finalize his retirement.

[ds8582]

Who starts Chillar or Popps???

[roidrunner]

Chillar cause Popps is a liability at coverage

[ds8582]

Popps really impressed me in the Championship game though. He was really blowing up the backfield on running plays

[TitleTown088]

Pops will be used more in a pash rushing situations.

[RockJock07]

Teddy named NFL executive of the year by sporting news.

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2008/03/25/1/

TT really hasn't missed on to many guys, either in Free agency or the draft. I think that off-hand I can think of Cory Rodgers as a bust, but pretty much everyone else has worked out in some fashion or another.

I really think this draft can put this team over the top. Only a couple of pieces are needed, I really wonder if he will trade down as much as he has in the past. He needed to trade down the last few years to replace all of the trash Sherman brought in. So I wonder will only a few areas to address, will we see 9-10 draft picks?

[PACKmanN]

Popps really impressed me in the Championship game though. He was really blowing up the backfield on running plays

If those dropped balls weren't dropped we wouldn't be saying that. Poppinga, IMO should be moved to DE, and coming in on Passing downs. He gives Aaron Kampman some rest on some plays so he wouldn't wear out.

[GB12]

So, I found a 2003 NFL Preview magazine and on the cover it said, "Is this Favre's last stand?". I got a chuckle out of it.

[Vince Lombardi]

haha so I just heard Ahmad Carroll resurfaced.......... in the AFL, playing for the Orlando Predators.

[neko4]

yeah, im gonna have to watch Carroll on tv, whenever he's on

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Rob Davis retires and moves into new position

http://packers.com/news/releases/2008/03/26/1/

The oldest Packers after Favre, Davis, William Henderson have left are now: Al Harris, he will be 34 in December. Donald Driver is the 2nd oldest he will be 34 next February. Next is Clifton and Charles Woodson they are 31.

I'm glad to have had a minor encounter with Rob Davis. Last Training Camp he and the O Line were practicing right in front of the fence and we were in the front row of the bleachers. My 16 year old sister kept giggling cause she couldn't believe how close she was to the action. Rob's back was facing us, and he kinda turned around and went "Rahh!" and slapped his hand on the fence. She jumped and started laughing louder. After the night practice she got his autograph.

[TitleTown088]

Good bye to a great man and a great beard, he will be missed.

[ChezPower4]

Who starts Chillar or Popps???

I like Brady right now because he does excatly what a SAM LB is asigned to do and he does it quite well. Brady takes a lot of flack on these boards but he is a solid player. He does all of the dirty work on run plays: filling gaps, narrowing gaps, taking on the FB, and playing force are just a few of the things that he does that makes our defence as good as it is. If he did not do those things then Hawk and Barnett would not be able to fly around and make plays like they do. The things that Brady does wont all ways show up ont the stat sheet but if our defence is going to be good he must continue to do the dirty work and untill we get someone better I don't see any reason why he should not be our starting SAM.

[PACKmanN]

Rob Davis retires and moves into new position

http://packers.com/news/releases/2008/03/26/1/

The oldest Packers after Favre, Davis, William Henderson have left are now: Al Harris, he will be 34 in December. Donald Driver is the 2nd oldest he will be 34 next February. Next is Clifton and Charles Woodson they are 31.

I'm glad to have had a minor encounter with Rob Davis. Last Training Camp he and the O Line were practicing right in front of the fence and we were in the front row of the bleachers. My 16 year old sister kept giggling cause she couldn't believe how close she was to the action. Rob's back was facing us, and he kinda turned around and went "Rahh!" and slapped his hand on the fence. She jumped and started laughing louder. After the night practice she got his autograph.

He is the most underrated Packer to ever wear G&G, I am glad he a Packer and retired as one.

[GB12]

He is the most underrated Packer to ever wear G&G, I am glad he a Packer and retired as one.
That's going too far. I like Rob Davis, but he was a long snapper.

[neko4]

Rob Davis just looks like a beast

[Twiddler]

He is the most underrated Packer to ever wear G&G, I am glad he a Packer and retired as one.

Rob Davis? Really?

[roidrunner]

i would not say the most under rated ever. cause we have had alot of under rated players in our time

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Yeah we have had a lot of underrated players in our franchise, I think he's just making a statement that what Davis has done for 12 years has been more special than we think. Somebody that comes to my mind is OLB Dave Robinson. Arguably a top 3 OLB during his prime but we never talk about him.

[Yatta!]

Eagles signed TE Kris Wilson, who we were interested in signing earlier in FA.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3313371

[TitleTown088]

Eagles signed TE Kris Wilson, who we were interested in signing earlier in FA.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3313371
I'm glad. I'd rather see the TE position addressed through the draft anyways. Lee, Humphrey, and a draft pick will suffice just fine.

[mqtirishfan]

That's going too far. I like Rob Davis, but he was a long snapper.

A long snapper who kept his job for years upon years.

[NickCollins36]

yea a decent long snapper shouldnt be too hard to come by...

[neko4]

yea a decent long snapper shouldnt be too hard to come by...
youd be suprised

[jackalope]

Hopefully we'll be able to replace Davis easily. I like to see him named "Director of Player Development".

[umphrey]

I just assumed we'd draft someone and make him spend all training camp practicing it with the promise of a $700,000 contract if he got it right. Assuming we don't find one right away that is.

It's not like you need to find a guy with a physical gift for long snapping.

[GB12]

I just assumed we'd draft someone and make him spend all training camp practicing it with the promise of a $700,000 contract if he got it right. Assuming we don't find one right away that is.

It's not like you need to find a guy with a physical gift for long snapping.
We signed Thomas Gafford a couple weeks ago to do it.

[neko4]

we'll scott has 3 LS's listed
they look pretty good
lol

Cosidering we dont have alot of needs why not spend our last pick on Tim Bugg

[NickCollins36]

Yea we could draft another but i think the other week we signed that Thomas Gafford. I read he was a long snapper

[ChezPower4]

we'll scott has 3 LS's listed
they look pretty good
lol

Cosidering we dont have alot of needs why not spend our last pick on Tim Bugg

Why spend a draft pick on a long snapper when we signed one, and if we don't like him that much and want to get another why draft one? I doubt a LS is high on any teams draft board, almost all of the LS will probably go undrafted so we could just sign one of the young guys after the draft and use the pick somewhere else.

[neko4]

Why spend a draft pick on a long snapper when we signed one, and if we don't like him that much and want to get another why draft one? I doubt a LS is high on any teams draft board, almost all of the LS will probably go undrafted so we could just sign one of the young guys after the draft and use the pick somewhere else.
it was sarcasm

[Meta4]

you can tell the off season is slowing down when you start talking about drafting long snappers. There has to be a rumor out there thats worth talking about.HELP!

[TitleTown088]

Does anyone else use packersnews.com? The bastard hasn't worked properly for me in weeks.

[EvilMonkey]

Does anyone else use packersnews.com? The bastard hasn't worked properly for me in weeks.

i havent had a problem with it

[TitleTown088]

i havent had a problem with it
What the heck? I have tried it from about 6 different computers in different parts of the country actually and it doesn't work well....?

[TitleTown088]

Ours truly(TT) is now being used by espn...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3309223
Raymond Berry, Boyd Dowler, Mike Holmgren, Ken Houston, Warren Moon, Keyshawn Johnson and Ted Thompson helped ESPN.com evaluate the best wide receivers in NFL history. ESPN.com weighed their contributions, balancing rankings with anecdotal evidence, to create the following list.

I know, no biggy. But I gotta point outa little pub for the white wizard.

[EvilMonkey]

What the heck? I have tried it from about 6 different computers in different parts of the country actually and it doesn't work well....?

i know i've had problems before just typing in packernews.com and it wouldnt work. I have this bookmarked and havent had problems since..
http://www.packersnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

[PACKmanN]

I wouldn't doubt bringing in one of the young long snappers, we drafted Crosby after having Rayner. I wouldn't doubt it.

[johbur]

Ours truly(TT) is now being used by espn...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=sando_mike&id=3309223


I know, no biggy. But I gotta point outa little pub for the white wizard.

Have you seen the three minute clip on Packers.com about Hutson? His dominance in his era far surpasses any other receiver for his best season. He had twice the yardage, twice the touchdowns and three times the catches as any other receiver in 1942. He also had seven interceptions and was the PK.

[Yatta!]

I wouldn't doubt bringing in one of the young long snappers, we drafted Crosby after having Rayner. I wouldn't doubt it.

We could bring one in but we're not gonna draft one. Crosby was great value last year and Rayner wasn't anything special anyway. Kicker is a more important position as well, its a totally different situation imo.

[ChezPower4]

Have you seen the three minute clip on Packers.com about Hutson? His dominance in his era far surpasses any other receiver for his best season. He had twice the yardage, twice the touchdowns and three times the catches as any other receiver in 1942. He also had seven interceptions and was the PK.

He also is credited for inventing pass patterns.

[PackerLegend]

We need to go Long Snapper with our 1st 3 picks, cant go wrong then!!! And we should also draft a kicker and a punter very high.. CAN YOU SAY SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[johbur]

;D

I loved Rob Davis, but I'd like our third TE or a 5th DE that was the LS. That kid Bienneman a couple of years ago was a pick I wanted for the Packers. LS doesn't ever excite, but I still remember the Giants losing games due to their LS problems.

[ChezPower4]

We need to go Long Snapper with our 1st 3 picks, cant go wrong then!!! And we should also draft a kicker and a punter very high.. CAN YOU SAY SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like a great draft day plan...haha

[roughrider30]

We need to go Long Snapper with our 1st 3 picks, cant go wrong then!!! And we should also draft a kicker and a punter very high.. CAN YOU SAY SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With Sherman I would definitely have said that draft WOULD be a possibility ;)

[TitleTown088]

Cheesus Christ, a page and a half on a long snapper? Things are getting really slow.

[The Legend]

yeah its kind of sad, i was hoping we bring in a corner or tight end for an interview

[EvilMonkey]

enough with the freaking long snapper talk. Pretty sure if we cant find a long snapper who'll work out TT will head over to Rob's office and ask him to play again and he'll probably be able to step back in without that much trouble.

[neko4]

i was being pretty sarcastic about all the LS business
anyone on to more important news


I think we should trade up for DRC
If we sit and wait at 30, Talib, Jenkins, McKelvin, and DRC could all be gone. Then we'll be stuck with the tier 2 CB's. And I dont really like Flowers or King. Lee and Godfrey would be reaches and I still dont know if Cason would be a good fit.

[Yatta!]

^ I'm in total agreement with all that. DRC would be my dream pick, its not like we need the picks to address other needs.

[TitleTown088]

Giving up picks for a nickel back when you have two pro bowl quality corner seems just idiotic to me. I don't see the reasoning. Drafting strictly on need like that is not a good idea.

Anyone want to see the holy land? Here's Brett's crib.. http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/40162/view/?service=1

[neko4]

It looks beautiful
Lets take a NFLDC Packers fan's field trip to it

[neko4]

I just learned Atari played one year in the NFLE
Does anyone wanna guess which team?

[PackerLegend]

I just learned Atari played one year in the NFLE
Does anyone wanna guess which team?

Amsterdam Admirals..........

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Giving up picks for a nickel back when you have two pro bowl quality corner seems just idiotic to me. I don't see the reasoning. Drafting strictly on need like that is not a good idea.

Anyone want to see the holy land? Here's Brett's crib.. http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/40162/view/?service=1

Some sick property right there.

[EvilMonkey]

It looks beautiful
Lets take a NFLDC Packers fan's field trip to it

ok, cant wait to see that gate before being stopped and being told to leave...

[PackerLegend]

ok, cant wait to see that gate before being stopped and being told to leave...

We could pee on his yard from there it definitely be worth it.

[EvilMonkey]

We could pee on his yard from there it definitely be worth it.

that is true....

[AtariBigby]

Why so much love for DRC?
Is it the media hype or the fact that his cousin has done so well?

Did anyone here ever watch ONE game of him in college? Tennessee State? What network?

I'd love his hype, and the Troy University hype to get DRC and McKelvin to go so high it makes Mike Jenkins slip down to us at #30.

[PackerLegend]

Why so much love for DRC?
Is it the media hype or the fact that his cousin has done so well?

Did anyone here ever watch ONE game of him in college? Tennessee State? What network?

I'd love his hype, and the Troy University hype to get DRC and McKelvin to go so high it makes Mike Jenkins slip down to us at #30.

because he is the second tallest CB at 6' 1 1/2" just 1/4" shorter then Darnell Terrell and 1" taller then the rest of the CBs. He is also one of the fastest with 4.33 Speed. He has good ball skills. Yes his links to his cousin help.

[neko4]

because he is the second tallest CB at 6' 1 1/2" just 1/4" shorter then Darnell Terrell and 1" taller then the rest of the CBs. He is also one of the fastest with 4.33 Speed. He has good ball skills. Yes his links to his cousin help.
And was pretty damn good at the senior bowl

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Saturday I went to the 36th Annual Chicago Sun-Times Sports Collectible Convention at the Donald E. Stephens Convention Center in Rosemont, IL.

Note:not everything you I type is truly important so feel free to skim.

I've gone to several shows over the years but never got autographs, I went for the sports cards. Also never went to the Sun Times show. Well I got this flyer about a month or two ago. On the list of autographs for Saturday was Charles Woodson. It just so happens ever since training camp last year my sister, 16 years old, has had a crush on him.

This year they have a new feature called Photo-Op where up to 5 people can take a professional photo with the player, they print as an 8 x 10, and the player signs it, and you talk to them for a minute or two. Woodson, Marshall Faulk, Barry Sanders, Ken Stabler, Gale Sayers were a few of the people doing this. There wasn't nearly as many people getting these photos as getting just autographs so it's a pretty unique thing. I think Charles took 3 pictures, but he probably signed about 50 autographs.

So we enter the picture taking curtain area, and my sister is kinda beside herself, most of the time we have is spent by her answering a couple questions or my mom telling him. I shook his hand, and said stay healthy, he said nice to meet you man, we said it at the same time. After the picture my mom says we're gonna be there at camp again this year, were there last year yadda yadda.

Then we wait for the picture to be printed, head over to his aisle and have it signed. As we leave my mom said, how's the piano lessons going? Cause I showed them this article:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-tuesdayconversation100907&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

There was some other things said that I forgot, happens so fast. Anyways...

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb259/mikethefootballfan/meeting%20players/P1000889.jpg

Picture analysis: This is just a picture I took of the picture. Unfortunately our scanner is broken, hopefully I'll get a better one up here. It doesn't look as good here in clarity as it would if you looked at it regularly.

I didn't know it was a professional photo type thing going on with black curtains around until we saw it. And because of this, I made the mistake of wearing a blank black shirt, dark blue Carhaardt hoodie, and my long hair blends right in with the black curtain (normally I keep it super short but I'm experimenting). and obviously there was a focus by the photographer going on with him and my sis. Reason I say this, well, all you can see is my face so I'm the weakest link in this one. But being involved in it makes up for it. For some reason I look little. I'm 5'11'' he's 6'1''. But we look almost a half foot different. I was behind everybody else but I can't figure it out. I guess the camera was at an angle and he was a little in front of everybody. I dunno.

Let's rewind a little.

Friday I checked a site for the show to see if anybody else was added. I had already planned on meeting Joseph Addai, getting something signed. Well, I get there. Look at the names above each autograph aisle. And there's Marshawn Lynch's name. I go over to the ticket desk look at the board to make sure. Yeah his name is there too. So I immediately decided I would go w/ him instead. Purchased the ticket and got a 16 by 20 photo of Marshawn in beast mode as usual. Shook hands, chatted for a sec about when he signed on to be there, got a picture of him. Wasn't in the wild Marshawn mode but he's real cool dude. What's funny is I was just looking up stuff on him Friday also cause I hadn't in a long time.. on yardbarker, myspace and at one point I thought what if he was at the show? So it was crazy that it turns out he was.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb259/mikethefootballfan/meeting%20players/P1000871.jpg

Family First is the motto he goes by for those who don't know, and thats the sign he and his 2 cousins made for it, some people have wondered is he throwing up a gang sign after TD's.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb259/mikethefootballfan/meeting%20players/DSCI0488.jpg

All in all it was a great day. Never did anything like this, never talked to any famous athlete, I've only seen them from a short distance. You spend time thinking about what you're gonna say, and for some reason you don't say several things you want to. For me, I think it was cause I was in a line. Marshawn wouldn't have cared if I asked him a few more things, but in the back of my mind I guess I'm nervous, feel rushed by having people behind me, and I'm a quiet person in general. I hope to get in touch w/ him on yardbarker as he is a verified athlete on there and writes a blog every now and then. Some people do this just to make a profit by selling the stuff, and usually they leave right away and do want to talk to them. For me, I don't really care what I paid, they don't get every cent of it or get it directly.

It's about just being in the presence of guys you watch every week and follow on sites like this. That's enough for me. I won't think about how much it's worth in money, I will think about how cool it is that I got this and I chatted it up with them a little bit. I'm standing in the area the whole time and 10 to 20 feet away from me there's Marshall Faulk, Emmitt Smith, Roy Williams, Lawrence Taylor, Ken Stabler, Dominique Wilkins, J Leman, Adrian Peterson was gonna be there Sunday by the way(today).

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Oh and by the way Jarrett Bush has a site on there.

http://yardbarker.com/users/JarrettBush

He's talked about the different types of traning this offseason, getting back to GB this week, and that he sees people saying the Packers will go CB in the draft, and he's ready to beat them all out this year.

[PackerLegend]

You got your picture taking with C-Wood that is awesome!!!!!!!!! I love Woodson!

[RockJock07]

DRC is solid but I'm not willing to trade up to the top 10 to select him. I'm willing to take Kenny Phillips if he's there at 30, then select maybe stewart with one of our 2nd round picks, then maybe a CB.

[FLORIDA PACKER]

Oh and by the way Jarrett Bush has a site on there.
He's talked about the different types of traning this offseason, getting back to GB this week, and that he sees people saying the Packers will go CB in the draft, and he's ready to beat them all out this year.

Haha Thats good to hear! I'm glad he's ready to compete! The more competition the better!


Awesome pictures and story to by the way!

[neko4]

nice pics
glad to hear that about Bush

[AtariBigby]

DRC only has ONE kidney by the way, being leaked out now......
What effect can that have on a football player?

Any doctors in the house, or anyone stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?

[ChezPower4]

^ I'm in total agreement with all that. DRC would be my dream pick, its not like we need the picks to address other needs.

DRC is probably gonna be a top 15 pick at worst so we would have to give up a lot to move up that far and I don't think that DRC is a can't miss CB so to me if he doesn't fall to us there is no sence in trading up for him

[EvilMonkey]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/31/vikes-pack-to-open-mnf-double-header/

Pack-Vikes to start the season off on MNF in the first of the doubleheader. In Green Bay, seems like a good time for a number retirement ceremony....

[princefielder28]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/31/vikes-pack-to-open-mnf-double-header/

Pack-Vikes to start the season off on MNF in the first of the doubleheader. In Green Bay, seems like a good time for a number retirement ceremony....

Should be an exciting game!!!!

[ChezPower4]

Can't f'ing wait!!!

[TitleTown088]

packers officially awarded a 4th 37th pick in the round and No. 135 overall.

http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspaper/blogs/insider/index.shtml

[Nitschke-Hawk]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/31/vikes-pack-to-open-mnf-double-header/

Pack-Vikes to start the season off on MNF in the first of the doubleheader. In Green Bay, seems like a good time for a number retirement ceremony....



Yeeeeeeaaaahhh

[johbur]

packers officially awarded a 4th 37th pick in the round and No. 135 overall.

http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspaper/blogs/insider/index.shtml


I wonder if they would have picked up a 7th if they hadn't signed Walker. I wish they wouldn't have signed him. He did nothing and offset some of the compensatory value.

Chillar will hopefully be a much better signing.

[PackerLegend]

Do retirements count towards compensatory picks???? I thought I read or heard one time they do but im not really sure.

[EvilMonkey]

Do retirements count towards compensatory picks???? I thought I read or heard one time they do but im not really sure.

i dont think so. Everything I've heard on them is that they are given on salary with new team and playing time, so I dont know how they would award for retirements.

[TitleTown088]

Ruvell re-signed http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspaper/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Edit: not actually re-signed. He just signed his papers for this year.

[princefielder28]

Ruvell re-signed http://www.packersnews.com/includes/newspaper/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Having Ruvell on the team is great

[Pack_Attack_4]

Having Ruvell on the team is great

ya hes the best 4/5 th WR in the league

[ChezPower4]

nice re-sign we still have the best WR core in the NFL

[RockJock07]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/03/31/vikes-pack-to-open-mnf-double-header/

Pack-Vikes to start the season off on MNF in the first of the doubleheader. In Green Bay, seems like a good time for a number retirement ceremony....

I always get excited to see the pack on MNF, but even more when it's opening weekend.

However, I don't think brett will want his number retired that night. I know that would be the perfect time, but I think brett will know that Aaron's gonna be all jacked up about this being his team now, I just think brett will wait until mid-season in order not to "steal" the spotlight from Aaron.

I was thinking about this, I'm 23, brett's streak started early in the 92 season, that means from when I was 7 until now, brett has started every game. Just amazing, what a player.

[The Legend]

glad to keep marting now we wont draft a wr to maybe 6th

[neko4]

I always get excited to see the pack on MNF, but even more when it's opening weekend.

However, I don't think brett will want his number retired that night. I know that would be the perfect time, but I think brett will know that Aaron's gonna be all jacked up about this being his team now, I just think brett will wait until mid-season in order not to "steal" the spotlight from Aaron.

I was thinking about this, I'm 23, brett's streak started early in the 92 season, that means from when I was 7 until now, brett has started every game. Just amazing, what a player.


I was just a few months old haha

Also my uncle got me a football signed by Noah Herron, recently resigned Ruvell Martin, Kevin Barry and Aaron Rodgers

[vikes_28]

ya hes the best 4/5 th WR in the league

He's actually a really good reciever. He's tall, kinda has the tight end type of stature. He's good down close to the endzone.

Thats honestly what i think. I'm a vikings fan (Obviously), any vikings fan would love to see someone like him come in and have an immediate impact.

[PackerLegend]

Sorry guys this has nothing to do with the Packers but does everyone have the lock on the Team Boards section? Its been on there quite awhile and u can still post in here... its just been bugging me. Any one know what its about.

[Yatta!]

Sorry guys this has nothing to do with the Packers but does everyone have the lock on the Team Boards section? Its been on there quite awhile and u can still post in here... its just been bugging me. Any one know what its about.

Yep its there for me as well but doesn't seem to make a difference to anything...

[TitleTown088]

There are reportedly "rumors circulating" at the owners' meetings that the Packers have interest in A.J. Feeley and J.P. Losman.
With Kevin Kolb waiting in the wings, the Eagles might part with Feeley for the right price. Losman is less expendable in Buffalo. The Packers could also look into signing Aaron Brooks again. Gus Frerotte remains available. Apr. 1 - 10:31 am et
Source: Green Bay Press-Gazette

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=114577

[umphrey]

Sorry guys this has nothing to do with the Packers but does everyone have the lock on the Team Boards section? Its been on there quite awhile and u can still post in here... its just been bugging me. Any one know what its about.

I noticed this and thought about it for a bit - I came to this conclusion:

Awhile ago the team boards was a forum you could post in with 1 thread for each team. Then they transitioned to giving it a sub forum for each team. People still would have been able to post in the team boards but they locked it and put in the sub forums which are open.

[ChezPower4]

I would not mind having ethier on of those guys as our back-up. I've seen AJ many times and was always impressed by the way he managed the game. I like Losman as well because although he was not great in Buffalo he was not awful ether. I think Losman still has the potential to get better and would be a good back up for us. Would be good moves if we could get them for a good price.

[TitleTown088]

Apparently the Rams are considering moving to Wisc and they would have practices with the Packers if they did so. According to JSonline.

[PackerLegend]

Apparently the Rams are considering moving to Wisc and they would have practices with the Packers if they did so. According to JSonline.

What??? Are you sure... I looked on JSonline and didnt see anything. Please post a link.

[GB12]

Apparently the Rams are considering moving to Wisc and they would have practices with the Packers if they did so. According to JSonline.Just to clearify, they are thinking about moving their traing camp to Wisconsin and would possibly scrimmage the Packers once.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

The Rams story.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=734542

[umphrey]

Just to clearify, they are thinking about moving their traing camp to Wisconsin and would possibly scrimmage the Packers once.

That would be cool I guess...
The Rams are a fun team to watch.

The draft better get here quick cuz this off season is getting duller by the day.

[GB12]

For the third preseason game (the most important one) will be against the Broncos in Denver.

[The Legend]

Madison Rams is a bit of a werid name