Green Bay Packers Discussion

[GB12]

Madison Rams is a bit of a werid name
Um...what?

[TitleTown088]

I think I confused some people when I said the Rams were moving to wisc, I figured they would know it was only training camp they were moving.

[Hawk]

I would not mind having ethier on of those guys as our back-up. I've seen AJ many times and was always impressed by the way he managed the game. I like Losman as well because although he was not great in Buffalo he was not awful ether. I think Losman still has the potential to get better and would be a good back up for us. Would be good moves if we could get them for a good price.

I remember in the 2004 Draft when everyone thought we were going to take Losman. He was even drawing comparisons to Favre with his so called "gunslinger-ness". The Bills traded up and got him, but luckily for us, we landed the ever reliable Ahmad Carroll.

[neko4]

I remember in the 2004 Draft when everyone thought we were going to take Losman. He was even drawing comparisons to Favre with his so called "gunslinger-ness". The Bills traded up and got him, but luckily for us, we landed the ever reliable Ahmad Carroll.
Do you think we wouldve taken Losman?
Im sure if we had he wouldve panned out better
I wouldnt mind getting him either. Nice mobility to help compensate for our kinda inconsistent pass blocking.

[rumfinator]

That would be cool I guess...
The Rams are a fun team to watch.

The draft better get here quick cuz this off season is getting duller by the day.

I have to completely agree. I am actually starting to love baseball to keep my mind of of football. Then I see its April...and I start counting to the 26th.

[TitleTown088]

Do you think we wouldve taken Losman?
Im sure if we had he wouldve panned out better
I wouldnt mind getting him either. Nice mobility to help compensate for our kinda inconsistent pass blocking.

What's wrong with Rodgers nobility? And the Packer's pass blocking has been well above average the past two seasons( although some of that needs to be credited to lord Favre's pocket presence).

[johbur]

Do you think we wouldve taken Losman?
Im sure if we had he wouldve panned out better
I wouldnt mind getting him either. Nice mobility to help compensate for our kinda inconsistent pass blocking.

I would have been fine with Losman in 2004. He'd have sat and learned on the bench, and the Packers would be getting him ready to go in like they're doing with Rodgers. Rodgers and Losman are different prospects, and I think that McC will actually prefer A-Rod's style as if his pro career mirrors his college career, he'll be a high percentage decision maker that doesn't turn the ball over much. If they had Losman, they could have taken the trade from the Redskins, or taken anyone that was taken in the rest of R1, with me preferring S Marlin Jackson.

[PackerLegend]

Nothing to talk about so here is packerchatters

The Packers and Chargers have talked about a deal that would send the Chargers a pick (a 3rd or 4th) for QB Charlie Whitehurst.

The Packers had a discussion with Tampa about Chris Simms.

The Packers are indeed a team that is in play for Lito Sheppard. It was reported that the Eagles want a 1st from any team, but I heard a 2nd and a 5th was more likely to get a deal done. I also heard the Packers were offering one of their 2nd rounder (their own pick) straight up for him.

The is another team that has a QB that has talked to the Packers about a deal. The QB does have starting experience in the NFL and is still "young".

The Packers never had any interest in Pac Man Jones, but they did do their due diligence.

I heard a WR with KR ability is a target in the 4th or 5th round.

I was told the Packers could be looking to move up into the mid 1st round for the player they want (I heard Cason, Phillips, McKelvin, Brohm, Stewart or Baker).

Also if Chad Henne is there in round 2, it wouldn't surprise NFL personnel people people to see the Packers grab him.

All I can say is I hope the Lito stuff is true.. Id trade our second for him any day of the week.

[EvilMonkey]

Lito one isnt the worst, trade up I'd be fine with.. all the other ones make me sad to even think about them...

[PackerLegend]

Lito one isnt the worst, trade up I'd be fine with.. all the other ones make me sad to even think about them...

Ya I agree 100%......... A WR in 4th or 5th? We shouldn't even pick a WR at all. Driver, Jennings, Jones, Robinson, Martin.... absolutely amazing 5 WR set. we also have Bodiford to fight but mehh nice story but no way we should keep him over any of the listed WR's. We can just bring in some undrafted WR's or maybe take 1 in like the 7th with return ablity

[RockJock07]

I would do the lito trade in a second too, that's not a bad price to pay for a starting calibar CB.

I'm just really interested to see if TT would take Brohm, cause he's gonna be there at 30, i just hope phillps or cason, or even Rivers (probably not after his amazing pro day) are there cause then we would waste a pick on a QB.

[Yatta!]

I'm just really interested to see if TT would take Brohm, cause he's gonna be there at 30, i just hope phillps or cason, or even Rivers (probably not after his amazing pro day) are there cause then we would waste a pick on a QB.

There's no way we would draft Brohm. 1st round QBs aren't drafted to be backups (Rodgers situation was different, we knew he would be starting within a few years). If Brohm was there at 30 and we weren't that high on any other prospects, then surely we'd trade down.

[roidrunner]

as much as i would love to have brohm on the team, i really do not see it happening. A trade down seems to be most plausible. get an extra third rounder, and a second and that would be solid. we all know TT loves draft picks.

[ChezPower4]

I remember in the 2004 Draft when everyone thought we were going to take Losman. He was even drawing comparisons to Favre with his so called "gunslinger-ness". The Bills traded up and got him, but luckily for us, we landed the ever reliable Ahmad Carroll.

I hated the Carroll pick i wanted the Packers to take Cris Gamble...

[/QUOTE]I'm just really interested to see if TT would take Brohm, cause he's gonna be there at 30, i just hope phillps or cason, or even Rivers (probably not after his amazing pro day) are there cause then we would waste a pick on a QB.[/QUOTE]

Before Rivers pro day i thought there was a slim chance he could fall but like you said after his amazing pro day i now say no way in hell. we can still cross our fingers though.

[AtariBigby]

Why does everybody think Brohm will be there at #30 when we pick?

His season this year wasn't that bad at all, in fact he set career highs in some things. It's just that his defense was horrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible.

If Brohm does start to slide into the 20's, look for a team to trade up.... teams like Atlanta, Chicago, Minnesota, Baltimore all could use a franchise QB, and Brohm is one (potentially at least, like Joey Harrington was :o).

[ChezPower4]

Packers pre season schedule is out.

http://www.packers.com/news/releases/2008/04/03/1/

Like the games, Hope we beat the 49ers and broncos i hate those two teams

[umphrey]

Mon., Aug. 11
CINCINNATI BENGALS
Bishop's Charities Game
Time: 7 p.m.
TV: ESPN

Week 2
at San Francisco 49ers
Time: TBA
TV: state

Week 3
at Denver Broncos
Time: TBA
TV: state

Week 4
TENNESSEE TITANS (Gold pkg.)
Midwest Shrine Game
Time: TBA
TV: state

I predict 3-1 for that schedule with a loss to the Titans

[PackerLegend]

We play the Titans in week 4 of the preseason again??? Why this will be the 7th year in a row!

[roidrunner]

i think it has become a tradition started because Favre's and Mcnair have the same agent. If i remember hearing it correctly. now i guess it is a force of habit

[roidrunner]

something like they liked playing agianst each other or something?? i could just be pulling this out of my *** does anyone else remember hearing this?

[TitleTown088]

That sucks the first game of the season is the national televised one... Game with the least amount of PT for the starters.

[Pack_Attack_4]

jus saw on NFL network we sighned morency to a 1 year deal worth 927k

[GB12]

jus saw on NFL network we sighned morency to a 1 year deal worth 970k
We signed him to a third level RFA tender over a month ago.

[TitleTown088]

Does anyone know what that "Tear open" motion the Packers receivers do after they score a TD is supposed to represent? I've seen Jennings and Lee do it, is it significant at all, or what?

[PackerLegend]

We signed him to a third level RFA tender over a month ago.

Really? Wow I missed that. I like it, ive always liked Morency and wish he would get more playing time but he never really got to see the field.

[TitleTown088]

Did you guys hear that Favre's coming back from ESPN(per La times)? I swear they are turning into the worst news whores ever. No way he comes back to be traded.

[Packer_Backer]

Did you guys hear that Favre's coming back from ESPN(per La times)? I swear they are turning into the worst news whores ever. No way he comes back to be traded.

Apparently the rumour has already been killed by his agent,as stated in the thread on main board. I really don't think he's coming back it is just a really slow day for ESPN.

[the dude]

yeah, that rumor is a result of a slow offseason, nothing else

[TitleTown088]

yeah, that rumor is a result of a slow offseason, nothing else

http://whatthecrap.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/dude.jpg

[Packer_Backer]

Even yahoo is picked up the story
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=txfavreretirement&prov=st&type=lgns

This time of year with a lull before the storm, the rumours a person could start.

I just heard from an inside source that Bart Starr may not stay retired! look for a deal to be done after the draft if particular teams can't pick up a QB.

[RockJock07]

This has got to be a hoax. There is a snow balls chance in hell that if favre comes back, he gets traded.

The other thing is, what team that doesn't already have a franchise QB is closer to a super bowl then the packers? That's the part of this whole thing that makes me think this is just some d-bag in LA floating a story.

Bus cook denied this whole thing but even if it were true he wouldn't say anything, so I put no stock into what he says about it. I'm just thinking logically about it, and for him to come back to get traded to another team, it doesn't add up.

Maybe people were getting sick of the bengals soap opera and ESPN needed something else NFL related to fill their slot.

[TitleTown088]

We signed him to a third level RFA tender over a month ago.

Hmmm.........

Apr. 3 - 8:32 pm

Packers re-signed RB Vernand Morency to a one-year, $927,000 contract, according to NFL Network's Adam Schefter.
Morency battled a knee injury for almost the entire 2007 season. He managed only 3.7 yards per carry on 29 totes, but did haul in 30 passes. Morency's upside is as a third-down back in the Packers' offense. He'll compete for that job with Brandon Jackson, DeShawn Wynn, and longshot Noah Herron.

roto

[GB12]

Hmmm.........

Apr. 3 - 8:32 pm

Packers re-signed RB Vernand Morency to a one-year, $927,000 contract, according to NFL Network's Adam Schefter.
Morency battled a knee injury for almost the entire 2007 season. He managed only 3.7 yards per carry on 29 totes, but did haul in 30 passes. Morency's upside is as a third-down back in the Packers' offense. He'll compete for that job with Brandon Jackson, DeShawn Wynn, and longshot Noah Herron.

roto
Well we tendered him over a month ago, he must not have actually signed it until today then. Once we tendered him it's pretty much resigning him because as a RFA he has no other options but to sign.

[TitleTown088]

Well we tendered him over a month ago, he must not have actually signed it until today then. Once we tendered him it's pretty much resigning him because as a RFA he has no other options but to sign.

Where exactly did you hear about this? I sure never heard anything about it. Perhaps I missed it somehow, but I doubt it.

[GB12]

You only get until February 28th to offer tenders to RFA, or they become UFA. We offered Morency the low tender worth $927,000 with potential compensation in the round the player was drafted (3). We also at that time tendered Colin Cole for the next level up.

[The Legend]

only way i see Favre coming back....
Patriots (Tom Brady) or Colts (Peyton Manning)
go down and they need a QB even then i dont know lol

[johbur]

Yep. Morency gets us a third rounder if signed elsewhere and Cole gets us a second rounder if signed elsewhere. If it weren't for Colin's arm, if I were a team like Atlanta with all those picks, I'd be looking very closely at Colin Cole for a second rounder, as there's no one in this draft as good as him after R1, IMO.

[TitleTown088]

A second rounder for Colin Cole? Nooooo way.

[ChezPower4]

A second rounder for Colin Cole? Nooooo way.

i agree with that 100% maybe in a few years but that is big maybe

[neko4]

GUYS!!!!!!!
Gilbert Brown dropped down to 290 and is coming back!
Edgar Bennett is also quitting as RB coach to return to squad.
Don Hutson rose from the grave last week and apparently ran a 4.37 at a private workout, while Curley Lambeau is coming back to both on the team and play!!!!!!!!!!
Woooo!

[PackerLegend]

Packerchatters again... stuff thats never right but anyways I wanted to pull something from this it will be at the bottom.

Kelly Holcomb is starting to emerge as the person most likely to backup Aaron Rodgers from what I was told.

Many teams list Chad Henne as the #2 QB in the draft, ahead of Brohm, who should be available in round 2. The Packers have done their home work on him, but are very quite about him, leading me to think there is more of an interest then is being let on.

DeShawn Jackson may be the 3rd WR taken in the draft. Sweed and Kelly are ahead of him (from what I got) and Jackson may also be there at pick #30 for the Packers. I was told they would use him as the return specialist right away and work him into the WR rotation. If he is drafted, then the likely hood of Koren Robinson or Ruvell Martin being let go would increase.

2 RB names keep coming up when I ask about RB's the Packers 'like'. They are Steve Slaton and Kevin Smith.

Chilo Rachel, Fred Davis and Lawrence Jackson all had long talks with the Packers yesterday. Thompson was REALLY watching Rachel hard and they spoke for a long time after.

Lito Sheppard to the Packers is still a very good possibility from what I understand. The Eagles want a 1st round pick, but the Packers will not part with that.

Finally, a QB to keep an eye on in round 3 is Andrè Woodson. If he slips that far and the Packers are on the clock McCarthy may want him to groom for a bigger role down the road (either to back up or use as trade bait).



Guy didnt even spell his name right but DeSean Jackson, if he was there at 30 and was the BPA do you think TT would take him? Not do you want him but do you think TT would draft him?

I think it would be a wasted pick. Spending a 1st round pick on a 5th WR and a kick returner. The worst part would be that it would likely mean the end for either Martin or Robinson. Pretty bad rumors if you ask me.

[GB12]

Ugh, no more packerchatters.

[PACKmanN]

Packerchatters again... stuff thats never right but anyways I wanted to pull something from this it will be at the bottom.

Kelly Holcomb is starting to emerge as the person most likely to backup Aaron Rodgers from what I was told.

Many teams list Chad Henne as the #2 QB in the draft, ahead of Brohm, who should be available in round 2. The Packers have done their home work on him, but are very quite about him, leading me to think there is more of an interest then is being let on.

DeShawn Jackson may be the 3rd WR taken in the draft. Sweed and Kelly are ahead of him (from what I got) and Jackson may also be there at pick #30 for the Packers. I was told they would use him as the return specialist right away and work him into the WR rotation. If he is drafted, then the likely hood of Koren Robinson or Ruvell Martin being let go would increase.

2 RB names keep coming up when I ask about RB's the Packers 'like'. They are Steve Slaton and Kevin Smith.

Chilo Rachel, Fred Davis and Lawrence Jackson all had long talks with the Packers yesterday. Thompson was REALLY watching Rachel hard and they spoke for a long time after.

Lito Sheppard to the Packers is still a very good possibility from what I understand. The Eagles want a 1st round pick, but the Packers will not part with that.

Finally, a QB to keep an eye on in round 3 is Andrè Woodson. If he slips that far and the Packers are on the clock McCarthy may want him to groom for a bigger role down the road (either to back up or use as trade bait).



Guy didnt even spell his name right but DeSean Jackson, if he was there at 30 and was the BPA do you think TT would take him? Not do you want him but do you think TT would draft him?

I think it would be a wasted pick. Spending a 1st round pick on a 5th WR and a kick returner. The worst part would be that it would likely mean the end for either Martin or Robinson. Pretty bad rumors if you ask me.

First of all, I don't think the person posting these rumors would like it that your posting his rumors without his permission. I remember reading back that he does not want someone else posting them, but if you did ask him and he allowed it then I apologize.

The rumors, now this is the same guy would said, if Ginn was there at 16 TT would draft him, Jackson is a similar player to Ginn, so who knows.

[GB12]

First of all, I don't think the person posting these rumors would like it that your posting his rumors without his permission. I remember reading back that he does not want someone else posting them, but if you did ask him and he allowed it then I apologize.

The rumors, now this is the same guy would said, if Ginn was there at 16 TT would draft him, Jackson is a similar player to Ginn, so who knows.
It's no different than posting something off of espn or a newspaper. He doesn't have to get permission to post it.

"So who knows" what? If Ginn was there at 16 we wouldn't have drafted him and if Jackson is there at 30 we won't draft him.

Packerchatters is trash. Their writers are crap and the posters there are for the most part morons. The only thing that the site is good for is the live draft chats that they bring in real experts (Scott included) for.

[Packer_Backer]

Ugh, no more packerchatters.

This is what it has come to now. Were looking for anything at this point. I can release my '"rumours" if anyone wants a discussion topic.

[PackerLegend]

It's no different than posting something off of espn or a newspaper. He doesn't have to get permission to post it.

"So who knows" what? If Ginn was there at 16 we wouldn't have drafted him and if Jackson is there at 30 we won't draft him.

Packerchatters is trash. Their writers are crap and the posters there are for the most part morons. The only thing that the site is good for is the live draft chats that they bring in real experts (Scott included) for.

Hey I agree totally about them being trash... I just post them to maybe have something to talk about until the draft finally gets here. Some of the rumors are so far out there, that they aren't worth discussing. I was just wondering if you guys thought TT would take DeSean Jackson at 30 if he was BPA, even though were stacked at WR.

[PACKmanN]

It's no different than posting something off of espn or a newspaper. He doesn't have to get permission to post it.

"So who knows" what? If Ginn was there at 16 we wouldn't have drafted him and if Jackson is there at 30 we won't draft him.

Packerchatters is trash. Their writers are crap and the posters there are for the most part morons. The only thing that the site is good for is the live draft chats that they bring in real experts (Scott included) for.

Actually, he has got a lot of his rumors correct, before any other major place has reported them. Thats why a lot of people read them.

He has to be given credit for some of them.

[TitleTown088]

I for one don't put too much credit into the site, but if you wanna post 'em up go ahead. It gives some conversation material and if you don't like it, don't read it.

[johbur]

Maybe I just love Colin Cole's production when he's in the game, but I don't see many DTs in this draft with his size and capability. Maybe I just have the image of him crshing Michael Vick seared into my brain and value him more than I should, but pre-injury he was always up there in tackles per snaps on field, sacks per snaps on field and the GB upswing started with him helping anchor that middle. I don't know what the coaches see or don't see from him that his time was cut down, but I still think Harrell was a wasted player as CC and Corey Williams were fine there. We could have had TE Olsen and not been thinking about that position this draft.

[bigboiajhawk]

The funny thing about Olsen is that he cannot run block, he couldnt crack the starting lineup cuz he was plain terrible at blocking. I am happy we took harrell, because he is strong, and I believe he will be one of the best run stuffers in the league, because of his strength. Another thing most forget is that Harrell ran a 5.04 40 at the combine, which is better than the top 2 dtackles this year. Enough about Olsen please, we dont have him.

[umphrey]

I really like Harrell's upside, I just hope he reaches it.

[umphrey]

We should benefit from the elimination of force outs as much as anyone. We don't run a lot of sideline pass routes and it should help with the physical play of our CBs. We got screwed by that rule a couple times last year.

[ChezPower4]

We should benefit from the elimination of force outs as much as anyone. We don't run a lot of sideline pass routes and it should help with the physical play of our CBs. We got screwed by that rule a couple times last year.

Yes sir... for example our first game against the bears last season

[Pack_Attack_4]

Yes sir... for example our first game against the bears last season

Ya and later on in the season i think Bubba caught a TD but thy didnt call it a force out

[johbur]

I really like Harrell's upside, I just hope he reaches it.

Sure, it'd be great if he reached his "upside". Just like it would have been great for Antuan Edwards to have reached his upside. Until he does, I don't like him more than the DTs that he already have, and in C-Dub's case, had. Johnny Jolly was showing he was a tremendous value for an R6 guy. Nothing wrong with Cole, other than he's a UDFA and doesn't have the pressure to play him that your R1 guy has. Maybe he'll play great this year, now that he's two years removed from injury.

On a side note, Mayock has GB taking Sam Baker in R1. I'd much rather have a CB there, but Baker's skill set looks like a ZBS match, though his 40 time is terrible.

[AtariBigby]

I'd accept Baker there, but I think one of the better OTs will still be on board.

Our two primary needs, CB and OT, are more for the future and not immediate, because Harris and Woodson, and Tauscher and Clifton are actually 4 of our best players.
But they are all old of course.... but TT is not adverse to being patient.

I think once again, TT will suprise us all, so that's why I am not too excited about making any more mock drafts...... can't guess that guy ever.

[umphrey]

I kinda think we get a lineman in R1 and OT makes the most sense, maybe DE, or OG if Albert falls (won't happen).

[Hawk]

Sure, it'd be great if he reached his "upside". Just like it would have been great for Antuan Edwards to have reached his upside. Until he does, I don't like him more than the DTs that he already have, and in C-Dub's case, had. Johnny Jolly was showing he was a tremendous value for an R6 guy. Nothing wrong with Cole, other than he's a UDFA and doesn't have the pressure to play him that your R1 guy has. Maybe he'll play great this year, now that he's two years removed from injury.

On a side note, Mayock has GB taking Sam Baker in R1. I'd much rather have a CB there, but Baker's skill set looks like a ZBS match, though his 40 time is terrible.

I'd be happy with Baker, I don't know why his 40 time matters that much.

[AtariBigby]

What if DeSean Jackson is still on the board when we're up at pick #30?

[TitleTown088]

What if DeSean Jackson is still on the board when we're up at pick #30?

Icky. No way, I don't want that pipsqueak on the Packers. They are basically set at Wideout anyways. However, WR is not out of the question depending on who's available, Driver's replacement could be drafted.

[ChezPower4]

Icky. No way, I don't want that pipsqueak on the Packers. They are basically set at Wideout anyways. However, WR is not out of the question depending on who's available, Driver's replacement could be drafted.


I say if he is there at 30 we take him. Jackson is a playmakers and you have to take players like that in the draft. We are pretty set at wideout but Jackson would make an outstanding slot reciever, who teams would have to account for on every play because of his speed and what he can do with the ball in his hands. Not to mention that he is an outstanding return man, we have some decent returners on our team but no one like Jackson. having a KRer like that can win us games.

[EvilMonkey]

I dont really like picking Jackson if he's there. Dont think it'd be the worst thing ever either but we have a ton of depth at WR and although he didnt really show it last year, Koren is still a former pro-bowl kick returner and Blackmon looked good as a PR so Jackson's returning skills arent a huge need either. He'd be a nice playmaker since we like to run short routes and allow receivers to do stuff after the catch. I wouldnt flip out or anything if we took him and it is possible since TT takes BPA, but i'm just hoping the BPA will more immediate help than Jackson since I think he's at least a year or two away as a WR.

[bigboiajhawk]

If desean Jackson fell to us, I would really hope that we would take him. I mean he has the ability to be at the worst a devin hester type kickoff returner. The packers could also ease him into becoming a receiver as well. The one thing that I am worried about is that are going to be some talented receivers possibly there when we draft like, sweed, manningham, and hardy, and that we will draft one of them, even though we definetly dont need one. As far as I am concerned, as long as we dont draft Brian Brohm in the first round I will be happy.

[ChezPower4]

I dont really like picking Jackson if he's there. Dont think it'd be the worst thing ever either but we have a ton of depth at WR and although he didnt really show it last year, Koren is still a former pro-bowl kick returner and Blackmon looked good as a PR so Jackson's returning skills arent a huge need either.

I think Blackmon is a very good KR but in his two years with us he has not been able to stay healthy. If he is hurt then he is no help to us, he just takes up a roster spot. I don't even think that Blackmon is a very good CB and since he is hurt all the time it is hard for him to improve. Coaches have a saying "your ethier getting better or your getting worse, no one stays the same." It is also yet to be seen if Robinson will return to his pro bowl form( I hope he does because i've been really pulling for the guy since he came back from his suspention)

[The Legend]

Green Bay eyes Vikes Birk?

It's inexplicable why the Vikings haven't offered to extend the contract of six-time Pro Bowl center Matt Birk, who is entering the final season of an eight-year deal. No player in the NFL has played eight seasons on one contract without having it restructured or extended at least a couple of years before it expires. The offensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers, by the way, is Joe Philbin, who was Birk's offensive line coach at Harvard. Don't think for a moment that Green Bay wouldn't love to have Birk, 31, who intends to play several more years, if he becomes available. -- Pioneer Press

maybe move Scott Wells to LG guard it would improve our offensiveline

[umphrey]

I doubt Wells moves, I doubt we sign an old lineman, I doubt the Vikes let him go (without reason)

[ChezPower4]

Green Bay eyes Vikes Birk?

It's inexplicable why the Vikings haven't offered to extend the contract of six-time Pro Bowl center Matt Birk, who is entering the final season of an eight-year deal. No player in the NFL has played eight seasons on one contract without having it restructured or extended at least a couple of years before it expires. The offensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers, by the way, is Joe Philbin, who was Birk's offensive line coach at Harvard. Don't think for a moment that Green Bay wouldn't love to have Birk, 31, who intends to play several more years, if he becomes available. -- Pioneer Press

maybe move Scott Wells to LG guard it would improve our offensiveline

Birk would be nice but i think that there is alot of time between this time next year and now, so right now it's just sepulation, but that is interesting that the Viking have not signed him yet

[TitleTown088]

That's pure speculation from the star tribune. What happens to Wells if they sign Birk? Move him to guard? That would make three centers starting on the interior line for the Packers. He's 31 years old, won't happen.

[Whistler6]

The thing about Desean Jackson is..there is 0% chance he is there at 30. Being the fastest WR in the draft (basically) will get him drafted top 15 easy. It's a Ted Ginn thing..

Anyways you guys/girls check out the article on the front of www.packerchatters.com ? It's about the weights of our players.. Looks like our DL men have bulked up ESPECIALLY Harrel

[Whistler6]

Well "added weight" which I'm banking on it being muscle ;)

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Actually, I read shortly after the season ended from MM that Harrell wasn't as comfortable at that weight and likes playing at 305ish more. He was about 315-320 the whole season.

[ChezPower4]

Actually, I read shortly after the season ended from MM that Harrell wasn't as comfortable at that weight and likes playing at 305ish more. He was about 315-320 the whole season.

I think he'll be fine at that wieght. That was the wieght that i expceted that he would play at.

[princefielder28]

http://www.sunherald.com/newsupdates/story/475495.html

If Aaron were to get hurt this year and the Packers asked Brett to come back he would consider it.

[PackerLegend]

I also like Tramon Williams as a returner. He had a fine TD himself. I think we have enough guys able to return kicks and punts that we dont need to take one at 30.

[mqtirishfan]

Way to take his words in the strangest context possible. He said it'd be hard to turn down but to take that as anything other than him staying retired no matter what is insane.

[umphrey]

http://www.sunherald.com/newsupdates/story/475495.html

If Aaron were to get hurt this year and the Packers asked Brett to come back he would consider it.

No one would say so publicly but that could be our plan instead of signing a veteran backup. It would only happen if Rodgers had a season ending injury and we were in contention, but still who knows if Favre would be in playing shape at that point.

It's an unlikely scenario but not something you can write off entirely.

[neko4]

I doubt Favre would just start getting fat. I think he'd still be in playing shape.

[ChezPower4]

You just know deep down Favre wants to come back so that article does not surpise me.

[TitleTown088]

I doubt Favre would just start getting fat. I think he'd still be in playing shape.

There is a difference between him being in shape and being in playing shape. Last off season he worked out the hardest in his life, a 38 year old dosen't just walk back into the NFL in the same shape he was while working his ass off. Sure, he stays active working on is land or whatever, but it'd take him awhile to get back into mid season form.

Perhaps this is why the Packers haven't signed a backup yet, he told MM this while they talked...;)

[neko4]

There is a difference between him being in shape and being in playing shape. Last off season he worked out the hardest in his life, a 38 year old dosen't just walk back into the NFL in the same shape he was while working his ass off. Sure, he stays active working on is land or whatever, but it'd take him awhile to get back into mid season form.

Perhaps this is why the Packers haven't signed a backup yet, he told MM this while they talked...;)


dear god



we have really created this farmer image for Favre

[TitleTown088]

He created it himself by saying that all he does these days is work on his land.

[johbur]

No one would say so publicly but that could be our plan instead of signing a veteran backup. It would only happen if Rodgers had a season ending injury and we were in contention, but still who knows if Favre would be in playing shape at that point.

It's an unlikely scenario but not something you can write off entirely.

He'd be in better shape than Vinny Testaverde. Not sure he'd be able to come in and take the team deep into the playoffs, but I'd still take Favre after a helf year of inactivity over most of the QBs littering the NFL landscape right now.

[Pack_Attack_4]

There is a difference between him being in shape and being in playing shape. Last off season he worked out the hardest in his life, a 38 year old dosen't just walk back into the NFL in the same shape he was while working his ass off. Sure, he stays active working on is land or whatever, but it'd take him awhile to get back into mid season form.

Perhaps this is why the Packers haven't signed a backup yet, he told MM this while they talked...;)

umm he has the bowflex in his barn

[TitleTown088]

umm he has the bowflex in his barn
I forgot about the BowFlex. I bet Lord Favre gets his swell on with his bowflex everyday in his Wrangler jeans listening to a radio with Rayovac batteries and a mouthful of prolosec OTC. All of this is going on right next to his car from Bergstrom auto.


On day 10 boys came over for craw fish.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Hahahaha that's good stuff. I love Favre's endorsements they're all so random it seems. I mean what makes him choose any company? I only really understand why he's with Wrangler.

[ChezPower4]

soon he'll be giving Payton Manning a run for his money with the TV ads

[Favre4ever]

Poor Favre. The guy must be booored as hell. Football is the only thing he knows and after catching up with his family for a few months you can be sure he'll be itching to comeback especially if he sees Green Bay struggle, that would kill him.

[PackerLegend]

Heard on the news that Luke Swan had a private workout with the Packers today for all you Badger fans like myself.

[roidrunner]

id love to see Swan as a packer, but i think he will be a UDFA

[TitleTown088]

Hahahaha that's good stuff. I love Favre's endorsements they're all so random it seems. I mean what makes him choose any company? I only really understand why he's with Wrangler.

Snapper makes good enough sense as well.

[The Legend]

anyone else think the hall of fame takes to long

[Nitschke-Hawk]

3 years would be nice.

[Yatta!]

3 years would be nice.

I think 5 years is fair. If it was 3 years then Deion Sanders would have already been enshrined when he came back.

[EvilMonkey]

yeah, needs to be 5 so guys who retire a little early cant come back. Doesnt happen much but Deion is a case and what if a guy like Barry Sanders had decided to come back for a year to try to win a ring or something. Wouldnt be the biggest deal or anything if something like that happened but people wouldnt want it so 5 is just a lot safer than 3.

[The Legend]

i think there should be poll and surtin people should be able to get in 3yrs
like if they think hes done and a shoe in and one of the great then 3yr it would be like a extra honor

[Nitschke-Hawk]

we could change it to one year and it still wouldn't be enough for Brett to get inducted since he's coming back.

Mwahaahaaa i kid i kid.

[AtariBigby]

5 years is right.
In Reggie White's case though, it was too long.

[ChezPower4]

3 years would be nice.

Too short, I think with some players they need time for people to really apprecate what someone has done in their career.

[TitleTown088]

Favre is going to be on letterman on the 24th.

[EvilMonkey]

Favre is going to be on letterman on the 24th.

wow, i find that really surprising. Should be interesting for sure.

[Yatta!]

Complete Packers schedule:
Week 1: Monday 8/9 v Minnesota Vikings 7pm
Week 2: Sunday 14/9 @ Detroit Lions 1pm
Week 3: Sunday 21/9 v Dallas Cowboys 8.15pm
Week 4: Sunday 28/9 @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1pm
Week 5: Sunday 5/10 v Atlanta Falcons 1pm
Week 6: Sunday 12/10 @ Seattle Seahawks 4.15pm
Week 7: Sunday 19/10 v Indianapolis Colts 4.15pm
Week 8: Bye Week
Week 9: Sunday 2/11 @ Tennessee Titans 1pm
Week 10: Sunday 9/11 @ Minnesota Vikings 1pm
Week 11: Sunday 16/11 v Chicago Bears 1pm
Week 12: Monday 24/11 @ New Orleans Saints 8.30pm
Week 13: Sunday 30/11 v Carolina Panthers 1pm
Week 14: Sunday 7/12 v Houston Texans 1pm
Week 15: Sunday 14/12 @ Jacksonville Jaguars 1pm
Week 16: Monday 22/12 @ Chicago Bears 8.30pm
Week 17: Sunday 28/12 v Detroit Lions 1pm

[TitleTown088]

That's a tough opening half of the schedule. I wish Dallas/Indy would have been during the colder part of the season.

[mqtirishfan]

I love our road schedule. I'm glad that our toughest games are at home.

[AtariBigby]

But 2 early cupcakes with Atlanta and Detroit, and the Vikings are supposed to be bad, but that's a rivalry and always tough, plus Adrian Peterson.... that defense will be fresh. Sharper roaming looking to catch Rodgers' first passes......

I love the Dallas game on Primetime, NBC.
The Colts should have been too, but CBS wouldn't give that one up to ABC or NBC.

[Pacific]

But 2 early cupcakes with Atlanta and Detroit, and the Vikings are supposed to be bad, but that's a rivalry and always tough, plus Adrian Peterson.... that defense will be fresh. Sharper roaming looking to catch Rodgers' first passes......

I love the Dallas game on Primetime, NBC.
The Colts should have been too, but CBS wouldn't give that one up to ABC or NBC.

How are they supposed to be bad? I think they'll be our top competition this season.

[Whistler6]

DAMN! I wanted Green Bay to play the Colts AND/or the Cowboys in December... That is an ultimate bummer

[The Legend]

two night games in the 1st three week Aaron Rodgers is goin to have everyone watching him
it sucks that we have to wait 11 weeks to vs the Bears thou, but i like the monday night game

Top 5 Hard Games

Sept. 8 (Mon.) Minnesota Vikings 1st NFL start
Sept. 21 Dallas Cowboys Rodgers vs the Cowboys again
Oct. 19 Indianapolis Colts who ever our nickle is better step up
Dec 14 at Jacksonville Jaguars thats going to be a pretty hard game
Dec. 22 (Mon.) at Chicago Bears this game may be a big part towards the playoffs

everyteam on our schedule other then the Falcons went 7/9 WOW

[PackerLegend]

Alot hinges on Rodgers if he is good/decent playoffs if he sucks were going to struggle. I have faith tho after watching the Dallas game and every preseason he has grown. Ya injuries are big to.

[princefielder28]

It will certainly be a difficult schedule and Aaron will have alot on his shoulders...I'm looking at a 10-6 record

[RockJock07]

Interesting schedule, I'm not worried about the second half of the season other then that Jacksonville game, that will be a smash mouth game and maybe the Saints if they end up being the 06 Saints.

The first half is gonna tough but at least the good teams are spaced out with bad teams like Detroit and Atlanta. Even Minnesota is bad but with it being Aaron's first start I see that being difficult, if we lose that game it's because Aaron loses it, Minnesota is bad.

[mqtirishfan]

everyteam on our schedule other then the Falcons went 7/9 WOW

Fortunately, only 5 teams on the schedule did better than 9-7. Very middle-of-the-road schedule.

[Pack_Attack_4]

Week 1: Monday 8/9 v Minnesota Vikings 7pm- W
Week 2: Sunday 14/9 @ Detroit Lions 1pm- W
Week 3: Sunday 21/9 v Dallas Cowboys 8.15pm -L
Week 4: Sunday 28/9 @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1pm W
Week 5: Sunday 5/10 v Atlanta Falcons 1pm- W
Week 6: Sunday 12/10 @ Seattle Seahawks 4.15pm -W
Week 7: Sunday 19/10 v Indianapolis Colts 4.15pm -L
Week 8: Bye Week
Week 9: Sunday 2/11 @ Tennessee Titans 1pm- W
Week 10: Sunday 9/11 @ Minnesota Vikings 1pm -W
Week 11: Sunday 16/11 v Chicago Bears 1pm-W
Week 12: Monday 24/11 @ New Orleans Saints 8.30pm -W
Week 13: Sunday 30/11 v Carolina Panthers 1pm-W
Week 14: Sunday 7/12 v Houston Texans 1pm-W
Week 15: Sunday 14/12 @ Jacksonville Jaguars 1pm-L
Week 16: Monday 22/12 @ Chicago Bears 8.30pm-L
Week 17: Sunday 28/12 v Detroit Lions 1pm-W

I hav us goin 12-4

[roidrunner]

i see 11-5. i see us losing to tampa for some reason

[Pack_Attack_4]

i see 11-5. i see us losing to tampa for some reason

I hope not im goin to that game

[ChezPower4]

I think 10-5 give or take a game

[Goatboy1717]

I was thinking 9-7/10-6 last year too and look what happened. Dont be shocked if it happens again. We may not have Favre now but the supporting cast has been rapidly improving. Bigby came on strong in the playoffs and could have a big year. I think this could be the season that Jennings becomes a Top WR in the league. James Jones was a little inconsistant last year but he could put together a good year. I could go on for a while naming young players who could have a good year. Dont be shocked. I wont be.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

I don't think the schedule looks tough at all. Looks average. Best of all there's no outrageous times like the Sunday-Thursday-Thursday we had last year.

[GB12]

I think 10-5 give or take a game
Well you're going to have to give or take one, because that'd only be 15 games.

[TitleTown088]

I thought avatars were for queers............................................ ....................? http://www.theauburner.com/images/leejones.jpg

[Yatta!]

I reckon we'll end up around 10-6 but I didn't think we'd do any better than .500 last year, so hopefully I get proved wrong again.

[the dude]

im counting 10 victories

[The Legend]

10/6 then again i said 9/7 last year and we went 13/3

[johbur]

Week 1: Monday 8/9 v Minnesota Vikings 7pm -W
Week 2: Sunday 14/9 @ Detroit Lions 1pm -W
Week 3: Sunday 21/9 v Dallas Cowboys 8.15pm -W
Week 4: Sunday 28/9 @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1pm -L
Week 5: Sunday 5/10 v Atlanta Falcons 1pm -W
Week 6: Sunday 12/10 @ Seattle Seahawks 4.15pm -W
Week 7: Sunday 19/10 v Indianapolis Colts 4.15pm -L
Week 8: Bye Week
Week 9: Sunday 2/11 @ Tennessee Titans 1pm -W
Week 10: Sunday 9/11 @ Minnesota Vikings 1pm -W
Week 11: Sunday 16/11 v Chicago Bears 1pm -W
Week 12: Monday 24/11 @ New Orleans Saints 8.30pm -L
Week 13: Sunday 30/11 v Carolina Panthers 1pm -W
Week 14: Sunday 7/12 v Houston Texans 1pm -W
Week 15: Sunday 14/12 @ Jacksonville Jaguars 1pm -L
Week 16: Monday 22/12 @ Chicago Bears 8.30pm -L
Week 17: Sunday 28/12 v Detroit Lions 1pm -W

11-5 here. I have 7-1 at home and 4-4 on the road, which would be a solid year and contender for the Division. The Packers did really well on the road last year, so we'll see if that was Favre's influence or whether the team has that road warrior mentality. Could be a better year if so, as TB and NO are winable away games. If they're not as tough on the road, then they might have trouble with Minnesota.

I was also tempted to have us beating the Colts, but I think the Packers will lose at least one home game so they were the choice.

I have the Packers beating Dallas. Rodgers almost had them last year at their place and likely would have beat them if he'd started the whole game. Basing a season prediction on that one game is tough, but Rodgers looked better than most of th QBs he'll be facing this year ($60 million for Garard? Are you kidding me?) and he has what I believe will be a top-5 defense to help him along the way. Toss in the young play-makers in Jennings and Grant, along with an offensive line now going into their third year of the Gibbs chop-block-o-rama ZBS and the offense has the potential to be more efficient and clock-absorbing than last year, though I think with Brett gone there will actually be more field goal attempts and fewer points.

[neko4]

I think the defense finally reaches its potential this year. Harrell should do solid this year (I hope), Hawk and Barnett will be great as usual, hopefully either Chillar or Poppinga will play above average, and one of those 3 safeties should breakout. Right now I would only be worried about the CB's

This is probably Al Harris' last good year

[Pack_Attack_4]

I think the defense finally reaches its potential this year. Harrell should do solid this year (I hope), Hawk and Barnett will be great as usual, hopefully either Chillar or Poppinga will play above average, and one of those 3 safeties should breakout. Right now I would only be worried about the CB's

This is probably Al Harris' last good year

I think Als one of those guys thats gonna be pritty good till the day he retires ill giv him 2 more years maybe 3.

[neko4]

I think Als one of those guys thats gonna be pritty good till the day he retires ill giv him 2 more years maybe 3.
I sure hope im wrong and your right

[ChezPower4]

I think the defense finally reaches its potential this year. Harrell should do solid this year (I hope), Hawk and Barnett will be great as usual, hopefully either Chillar or Poppinga will play above average, and one of those 3 safeties should breakout. Right now I would only be worried about the CB's

This is probably Al Harris' last good year

I also think that this years d is gonna be real good and could be one of the NFL's best

[umphrey]

I disagree, I think I saw some age last year (Harris).

[RockJock07]

I disagree, I think I saw some age last year (Harris).

Yeah, he looked old and really bad in the NFC Champ game vs. Plax, however the fact that the pack didn't blitz at all and gave Eli all day to throw didn't help him either. I would say that whoever the pack brings in through the draft should be ready to play extensively after this season.

[Jim Jim]

Harris was solid throughout the year, but the last game was awful. I'm not sure if it was Father Time or just that Plaxico was the better man constantly that night. I don't think it's fair to completely say Harris is washed up after just one bad game.

[umphrey]

Harris was solid throughout the year, but the last game was awful. I'm not sure if it was Father Time or just that Plaxico was the better man constantly that night. I don't think it's fair to completely say Harris is washed up after just one bad game.

It was some of both. We need a solution besides leaving him on an island against receivers who are 6'5" with 4.4 speed.

[GB12]

#4 will be retired during the opener. I was hoping that would be the decission.

[princefielder28]

Colin Cole has officially signed his second round tender. He'll make 1.417 million this year.

[umphrey]

If Allen goes to Minnesota I'll be scared of their defense. As it is they are still exploitable by a spread offense like ours, but with the DTs they have Allen could really give them a pass rush.

I was hoping we would sign him as a UFA this year or next, but seeing the numbers that are being tossed around for him is completely out of the question...I've seen 2 firsts or a 1st 2nd and 3rd, and 8 years 71 mil for the contract come up as rumored offers.

[roidrunner]

what is allen going for????

[ChezPower4]

If Allen goes to Minnesota I'll be scared of their defense. As it is they are still exploitable by a spread offense like ours, but with the DTs they have Allen could really give them a pass rush.

I was hoping we would sign him as a UFA this year or next, but seeing the numbers that are being tossed around for him is completely out of the question...I've seen 2 firsts or a 1st 2nd and 3rd, and 8 years 71 mil for the contract come up as rumored offers.

Is Allen really trying to get that much money? Thats crazy i hope we don't even consider bringing him in for that price.

[neko4]

It was some of both. We need a solution besides leaving him on an island against receivers who are 6'5" with 4.4 speed.

The first time he against Plax he played well. Its hard to stop a guy that big when your that skinny, but Al did a good enough job for us to win comfortably. Really the only WR's that played well against Al were TO and Plax and sort of Brandon Marshall

Colin Cole has officially signed his second round tender. He'll make 1.417 million this year.

Good for him

[The Legend]

8yrs 71 Million hes going to get more then that

i think he maybe asking that price to the Chiefs cause he knows how bad they need him
also usally when a team has a bad season people ask for more money
i think if he came to the packers we could get him for maybe 7yrs 63 Million
like Charles Grant Contract but DE are big money and i think with the retirement of favre
we got a lil more money to spend and i wouldnt mind going after Allen for the right picks
Tommy Kelly just got 7yrs 50 Million i think Allen is goign to want more

Dwight Freeney - 6yrs 72 Million (12) - Sacks Avg Last 2 Season = 4.5
Aaron Schobel - 7yrs 50 Million (7) - Sacks Avg Last 2 Season = 10
Charles Grant - 7yrs 63 Million (9) - Sacks Avg Last 2 Season = 4
Mario Williams - 6yrs 54 Million (9) - Sacks Avg Last 2 Season = 9.5
my guess would be somewhere around 9-10 million
7yrs 70 Million or 7yrs 63 Million

Jared Allen Sacks Avg Last 2 Season = 11.5 more then the top paid,
has and 11 sack avg in his career thats more then Freeney its more then Jason Taylor
more then any active player with atleast 4years under there belt he should get paid

[neko4]

notice how kampman gets paid way less than those guys and plays way better (Except maybe Mario and Freeney when healthy)

[The Legend]

Kampman will get a big contract after another great year
4yrs 20 Million is a bit low, if he has 10+ sack this year i could see him getting 50+ mill

[Goatboy1717]

Kampman diffidently deserves a big contract. He is someone who I wouldnt mind giving a big contract to. He wont get settled in once he gets paid big time like others do.

[roidrunner]

im all for giving kampman a big contract, atleast we know he will produce year in and year out.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

I wouldn't be surprised if he got a new deal before the season starts.

[johbur]

Kampman will get a big contract after another great year
4yrs 20 Million is a bit low, if he has 10+ sack this year i could see him getting 50+ mill

I'd like to see all our veteran players get a roster bonus. Being at 35 million and not bringing in an FA means that TT can pay the guys this year that have done well. The o-line, Lee, Kampman, Jennings, Pickett, Bigby and Grant.

I'd be happy giving up a 1st and second for Jared Allen, and then paying him $20 million up front so he wouldn't kill the cap. Jared Allen + Aaron Kampman + KGB = Utter Havoc on opposing offenses. TT won't do it, but I'd still like to see it. I'd also like to see TT bring in Lito Sheppard for a second round pick.

[roidrunner]

i would not be ok with dealing a first and a second for Allen. We need to build throught the draft more, and cgain more pieces. I just think it is too high of a price to pay for a DE

[Meta4]

No way would I give a first and second for Allen.

[GB12]

I don't think that'd be a smart move for us. I don't want the Vikings to get hiim though.

[johbur]

No way would I give a first and second for Allen.

Who would you take with those picks that would positively impact the team more than Jared Allen? A nickel back and a 2nd TE or backup safety or an OG? R U serious?

I am not sure what the obsession with picks over players is. The draft means you MIGHT get the next Barry Sanders, or you MIGHT get the next Tony Mandarich.

Allen is a proven commodity, and think about him next to Pickett or Jolly or Harrell and opposite Kampman. It would be like trading Corey Williams and the first rounder to KC. We're not talking about pick#5 like Hawk's. We're talking pick #30. For an All-Pro DE. Kampman + Allen = 30 sacks next year. That's not worth a first and second this year?

[GB12]

Who would you take with those picks that would positively impact the team more than Jared Allen? A nickel back and a 2nd TE or backup safety or an OG? R U serious?

I am not sure what the obsession with picks over players is. The draft means you MIGHT get the next Barry Sanders, or you MIGHT get the next Tony Mandarich.

Allen is a proven commodity, and think about him next to Pickett or Jolly or Harrell and opposite Kampman. It would be like trading Corey Williams and the first rounder to KC. We're not talking about pick#5 like Hawk's. We're talking pick #30. For an All-Pro DE. Kampman + Allen = 30 sacks next year. That's not worth a first and second this year?

That'd be pretty damn awesome, and had Favre stayed I would have said go for it but I'm not sure that'd be the best move now. We do have a lot of cap space, but we'd be pretty drained soon if we got Allen. To start Allen want's $70-$80 million. We'd then have to give Kampman at least as much. DEs are very important and those are two of the best in the game but $160 million tied up to one position is a big deal.

[neko4]

good thing we have a ton of free cap, but still thats a ton of money, but also a ton of sacks. Plus Minnesota might get him so if we get him and Minny doesnt than thats an added bonus

[Yatta!]

Whilst we're on the subject, would you rather have:
Jared Allen and Lito Shepherd?
Or Antoine Cason, John Carlson and Oniel Cousins? (Scott's latest mock)

Surely we'd have to make the trades if possible, that would make our defense incredible.

[PACKmanN]

rather take the young guys, Shepherd wants to get paid and we shouldn't be involved in over paying a nickel CB, Allen hasn't proven anything, I would like to see how many times he can play at that level, and if he can stay away from drinking his career away.

[Packman1957]

Whilst we're on the subject, would you rather have:
Jared Allen and Lito Shepherd?
Or Antoine Cason, John Carlson and Oniel Cousins? (Scott's latest mock)

Surely we'd have to make the trades if possible, that would make our defense incredible.


Well sure you could say that. But the fact is how much money would that cost us vs. the other option. I know we have plenty of caproom but look how much Allen and Sheppard want, its a riddicilious amount.

And we already have two starting CB's and DE's why would we go break the bank for both of those guys when they really don't have any spots to fill.

I think building through the draft is smarter because its not as big of a cost.

[EvilMonkey]

Whilst we're on the subject, would you rather have:
Jared Allen and Lito Shepherd?
Or Antoine Cason, John Carlson and Oniel Cousins? (Scott's latest mock)

Surely we'd have to make the trades if possible, that would make our defense incredible.

well, I'll take Allen and Lito but only over those guys because I'm iffy on Cason, dont like Carlson, and like Cousins but am not in love with him.

I would rather have the 3 draft picks knowing what TT will do with them than trading for those guys. (nothing against Scott's mock or anything, TT is always all over the place so I'm looking more so at the picks we have than the guys we're projected to take)

[cordscords]

rather take the young guys, Shepherd wants to get paid and we shouldn't be involved in over paying a nickel CB, Allen hasn't proven anything, I would like to see how many times he can play at that level, and if he can stay away from drinking his career away.

Allen hasnt proven anything?

Sack totals: 9, 11, 7.5, 15.5. The guy has put pressure on the QB since day 1.

[EvilMonkey]

^^ yeah, off the field issues aside, Allen has been one of the best DEs in the league.

[AtariBigby]

Allen hasnt proven anything?

Sack totals: 9, 11, 7.5, 15.5. The guy has put pressure on the QB since day 1.

No schit..... If Allen hasn't proven anything, then nobody has.
Allen hasn't had KGB on the opposite corner providing pass rush, and has drawn almost-constant double teams.
Yet missing the first 2 games last year, he still led the NFL in sacks.

He's almost an Aaron Kampman clone. What more could you want? Two Kampmans!

[TitleTown088]

Six-time Vikings Pro Bowl center Matt Birk, who is in the final year of his Vikings contract and without an extension, was spotted in Green Bay, Wis., this weekend.

Hmm....? http://www.twincities.com/walters/ci_8988568?nclick_check=1

[princefielder28]

Hmm....? http://www.twincities.com/walters/ci_8988568?nclick_check=1

That's wierd

[roidrunner]

well here is to hoping cause Birk would be a huge pick up for us. the guy is a stud, even though he is old

[GB12]

Link doesn't work for me. Anyway he's not a free agent which means the Vikings would have to trade him which they would never trade him to us. We have Scott Wells anyway.

[RockJock07]

Allen is a very good player but IMO I'd rather have Lito if TT were gonna do either of those deals. I'd rather put that money into a new deal for Kampman, a similar player who is a model citzen off the field.

In terms of scotts mock, I'm really not in love with it. He has the Giants taking Phillips right after us, I'd rather have Phillips even though it's not a pressing need then Cason.

The closer we get to draft day I really think that TT might trade out of the 1st round. I think there will be some teams that wanna trade back in for one of the QB's like Brohm or Flacco. TT could get a 2nd and 4th to trade down I think he might do that, and if that happens then I would give a 2nd to Miami for Jason Taylor.

[GB12]

I think I've explained this before, but there's one big problem with trading for Lito Sheppard. We'd have 3 probowl level corners. Sounds great until you remember only 2 can start. As a former all pro he's not going to want to go to a place where he'd be stuck in the nickel role.

[umphrey]

I think I've explained this before, but there's one big problem with trading for Lito Sheppard. We'd have 3 probowl level corners. Sounds great until you remember only 2 can start. As a former all pro he's not going to want to go to a place where he'd be stuck in the nickel role.

Which is why it won't happen. It seems like there is more than one pro bowl corner on the market every single year so I'm completely against forcing a pick at that position this year.

[roidrunner]

here is something from CNNSI:

If there is an ideal team for trading up Saturday in the first round of the NFL draft to grab an impact player, the Packers would be it. With one of the youngest teams in the league coming off a berth in the NFC Championship Game, the Packers have depth and few, if any, needs to fill. They certainly have some ammunition with eight overall picks in the seven-round draft, including six in the first 135 selections. And plenty of salary-cap space to take on the most daring of contracts.

[princefielder28]

here is something from CNNSI:

If there is an ideal team for trading up Saturday in the first round of the NFL draft to grab an impact player, the Packers would be it. With one of the youngest teams in the league coming off a berth in the NFC Championship Game, the Packers have depth and few, if any, needs to fill. They certainly have some ammunition with eight overall picks in the seven-round draft, including six in the first 135 selections. And plenty of salary-cap space to take on the most daring of contracts.

if we do trade up i would hope that we acquire mike jenkins

[roidrunner]

i would be ok with jenkins or DRC. either of those guys i would have no problem dealing for.

[Packman1957]

I think its safe to say every packer fan would be happy with Mike Jenkins. I really wouldn't mind if we traded up for him, he is a perfect fit and I think he is really talented.

But I wouldn't want to give up anything more than a second rounder to go up and get him.

[roidrunner]

i like jenkins, but for me DRC is a wet dream, I think DRC might be one of the best players in the draft. but i could live with either of them

[RockJock07]

http://www.wisn.com/sports/15954375/detail.html?rss=mil&psp=sports

IDK how to feel about this, I mean I guess I could see TT trading up (Like CNNSI suggested) but I really don't feel in my gut that he will.

On the other hand I really don't think he would take Brohm at 30 but I didn't think he would take a DT last year. This is probably just a smoke screen to drum up interest to teams who wanna QB and wanna trade back into the first round but most of the time teams can see through that and wait around for their guy. In this case I feel like teams would worry that if Brohm is there at 30 the pack might take him with no sure thing at QB even though Aaron played well when given the chance last year.

Now that he has built this roster back up, I don't think we are gonna see 10 or 11 draft picks. With that 2nd second round pick maybe that opens things up at 30, to take a Brohm even though it's not a "need".

There are no pressing needs that need to get filled for this team to win alot of games next season. I wonldn't exactly jump with joy if Brohm was the pick but at the same time, some have him rated above Matt Ryan (sporting news) so maybe he would would be a good value at 30.

[someone447]

I was not at all impressed with Cousins his junior year. I am not at UTEP anymore, so I didn't see him this year. But my trainer from back in EP(who I must say has been spot on with most of his evaluations) thinks he will be a steal in the late 2nd round.

[ChezPower4]

I was not at all impressed with Cousins his junior year. I am not at UTEP anymore, so I didn't see him this year. But my trainer from back in EP(who I must say has been spot on with most of his evaluations) thinks he will be a steal in the late 2nd round.

I thought that Cousins looked really good at the senior bowl and would be happy if we drafted him

[PACKmanN]

I have a hard time believing that Cousins can play tackle at 6'3.

[GB12]

I have a hard time believing that Cousins can play tackle at 6'3.
Mark Tauscher does it pretty well.

[neko4]

I was not at all impressed with Cousins his junior year. I am not at UTEP anymore, so I didn't see him this year. But my trainer from back in EP(who I must say has been spot on with most of his evaluations) thinks he will be a steal in the late 2nd round.
Thank you for that. we shouldve asked you when we saw him being given to us in mocks.

portland st doing the run n shoot right?

[Boston]

here is something from CNNSI:

If there is an ideal team for trading up Saturday in the first round of the NFL draft to grab an impact player, the Packers would be it. With one of the youngest teams in the league coming off a berth in the NFC Championship Game, the Packers have depth and few, if any, needs to fill. They certainly have some ammunition with eight overall picks in the seven-round draft, including six in the first 135 selections. And plenty of salary-cap space to take on the most daring of contracts.

Funny how we go from having holes all over the place, to having almost none...

[AtariBigby]

Funny how we go from having holes all over the place, to having almost none...

That is funny....... we had no running game heading into November.... now we have no holes?

While partly true, it is true enough that it allows Ted Thompson the luxury of drafting the BEST AVAILABLE PLAYER on his board.
29 players are picked and then we're up. There might be a guy still available that Ted has ranked #9 overall, and whatever the position is, Ted can grab the talent, and it will pay off sooner, or later. As long as Ted's evaluation was correct.

And he's proven to be one of the best evaluators of collegiate talent out there.

[roidrunner]

all you need to remember is "in ted we trust"

[AtariBigby]

Vikings win JARED ALLEN sweepstakes.
Now we have to contend with him and the 2 Williams at DT.....

[roidrunner]

what did they give up?

[Jim Jim]

A first round and two third rounders.

[roidrunner]

dang that means KC now has a ton of picks. good for them, should be interesting to see what they do

[TitleTown088]

Funny how we go from having holes all over the place, to having almost none...

Not as funny as how old-ass-washed-up Brett Favre went from being what was holding this team back from "developing" for the future to being the lost piece to a Super Bowl birth this season.

Vikings win JARED ALLEN sweepstakes.
Now we have to contend with him and the 2 Williams at DT.....

I'm not too worried about Allen vs the Packers necessarily, Allen sure didn't help too much from GB dropping 33 on KC last season ( granted with Brett) GBs tackles will do just fine against Allen... I am worried about him helping them out in the rest of their games though. Then, I remember they still have Jackson.

[AtariBigby]

Yeah but I'm not worried at all about KC.
We played them last year.

We play Minnesota this year twice, including Rodgers opening game.

[GB12]

I'm not too worried about Allen vs the Packers necessarily, Allen sure didn't help too much from GB dropping 33 on KC last season ( granted with Brett) GBs tackles will do just fine against Allen... I am worried about him helping them out in the rest of their games though. Then, I remember they still have Jackson.
It's not just Allen. It's that now it's Allen, and Kevin Williams, and Pat Williams. In Kansas City it was only Allen we had to worry about and were able to handle him rather easily. When you have him and two massive DTs it's going to be a lot harder of a task. Last year we were able to have success running the ball against them by avoiding the DTs and taking it to the outside where they had crappy DEs. Allen is good against the run which will shut that down, then they can shift a LB to the other side and shut down the edges as well. It's going to be damn near impossible to run on them this year. I think even with Rodgers we'll be able to exploit their pass defense. I'm not worried about Allen as much there since our line and particularly our tackles are great pass protectors.

[PackerLegend]

Does Allen play on Cliftons or Tauschers side I do not remember.

[GB12]

Does Allen play on Cliftons or Tauschers side I do not remember.
Clifton. Either way I don't think it matters much though. Both are great at going one on one with pass rushers. Tauscher shut down Kearny in the playoffs.

[umphrey]

Well not gonna lie this makes me a little nervous. I always said the Vikings contending for the NFCN wasn't as big of an issue for us as others made it out to be. My reasoning was they had no pass rush and a poor secondary. Now my logic is only half true.

[bigboiajhawk]

I think KC got the better end of the bargain, I think now KC could draft Vernon Gohlston to replace Allen with the fifth pick, and still pick up their OT that they need with the 17th. I am not to worried about Allen on the Vikings, as people have said before the DTackles are the ones to be worried about, and with Aaron Rodgers mobility, I think the packers will be fine against the pass rush. My question is, do the Vikings think they are going to be Super Bowl contenders, because they gave up high draft picks, that could have helped build their team. They must have a ton of faith in Tavaris Jackson. Well hopefully it doesnt work out for them.

[Yatta!]

My question is, do the Vikings think they are going to be Super Bowl contenders, because they gave up high draft picks, that could have helped build their team. They must have a ton of faith in Tavaris Jackson. Well hopefully it doesnt work out for them.

I m really quite worried about the Vikes now but as you say all the pressure is on Jackson to perform. If he does they could easily win the division. That being said if Rodgers plays well then we should win. It'll be a great test of character for him to play the Vikes in the first game.

[Dr. Gonzo]

Well not gonna lie this makes me a little nervous. I always said the Vikings contending for the NFCN wasn't as big of an issue for us as others made it out to be. My reasoning was they had no pass rush and a poor secondary. Now my logic is only half true.

Hate to post in here because I am a Vikings fan and this is a Packers board but I disagree with your last point. I really believe that the reason we have been so poor at stopping the pass is that we rarely if ever pressure the QB. That allows plenty of time for WR's to get open and regardless of how good your secondary is no secondary can cover forever.

I think a lot of the poor play in the secondary also had to do with the fact that we had two slow S's waiting deep. Sharper is all about making plays and taking risks and now that we have Madieu Williams back there I think we will benifit from having a much faster S then Smith and one who can allow Sharper to do what he does best.

I don't think our corners have ever really been a problem. They were solid last year and with the youth of most of them they are sure to get better.

I also think we suffered with our pass stopping stats because our run stop was so good and teams were much more inclined to pass. I really do think the addition of Allen will make our defense downright scary. He provides the pass rush we so despretly need and is a damn good run stopper.

Really everything is going to hinge on our QB play. Jackson could very well suck again or he could live up to the flashes of good QB play I saw from him last year and become a very solid QB. If Jackson plays like crap I still think our defense if great enough to give you a run for your money but if he starts to learn how to manage a game and not lose us anything this will be a damn fun division to watch. Either way I think the addition of Allen should worry Packer fans everywhere. I think right now it is a two horse race for the division and if Rodgers can step in a play well right away it will be a lot of fun to watch.

[Meta4]

I hate to say it ladies and gentlemen but The Queens have a team.

[bigboiajhawk]

Okay on paper the Vikings have a pretty good team, whether that translates to the field, we wont know till the season starts. So lets not make assumptions already.

[AtariBigby]

Okay on paper the Vikings have a pretty good team, whether that translates to the field, we wont know till the season starts. So lets not make assumptions already.
The thing is, Jared Allen HAS translated that onto the field. He led the NFL in sacks last season missing 2 games.
It's totally different than drafting a rookie DL guy and guessing how it will translate into the NFL. Like Justin Harrell, or Jarvis Moss, or Erasmus James, or David Pollack...... all they traded was a mediocre 1st rounder (we took Harrell #16, they traded the #17 pick), and two picks in the 90 range. I'd say that's pretty fair considering what they are getting. Plus Allen is not old. He's in his prime........

This is their Reggie White, but they don't have Favre thank God.

They do have Sidney Rice and added speed in Bernard Berrian..... they have Adrian Peterson and a great OL..... now they have a pass rush plus the great DTs...... they pose a serious risk to us week one for sure.
Dangit.

[EvilMonkey]

Okay on paper the Vikings have a pretty good team, whether that translates to the field, we wont know till the season starts. So lets not make assumptions already.

we're in the same boat with Rodgers though. Great trade by the queens getting a proven all-pro. Their D could be really, really good but the keys to a championship are still great line play on both sides and good QB play and neither the queens or us for that matter have that as a guarantee at QB. Like said before, we wont know til the season starts, that's what makes the NFL so great.

[princefielder28]

The first game of the season on MNF is going to be so awesome

[PACKmanN]

I think its all hype. Allen is great but without a push from the middle of thier d-line, Rodgers can step up and throw the ball. They still need someone in the middle. Btw, KC had another threat on that d-line, their LE. And we also faced the Giants in the playoffs were we shutdown both Osi and Strahan.

[AtariBigby]

We have 2 good OT's in Clifton and Tauscher, and we have 2 good CB's in Woodson and Harris.

But all are past their prime and will need to be replaced sooner rather than later.

Do we have their replacements now on the roster?
Will Blackmon or Tramon Williams, Jarrett Bush? Maybes.......
Allen Barbre or Daryn Colledge? Maybes........

I really wonder what Ted & Mike think about our backups at those positions.

[Yatta!]

I think its all hype. Allen is great but without a push from the middle of thier d-line, Rodgers can step up and throw the ball. They still need someone in the middle.

Erm the Vikes have two of the best DTs in the league. Even if they don't rack up sacks, they will take up blockers and give Allen space. It's undoubtedly a good move for them and it will make our task of winning the division a lot harder than last year. Atm I would expect both us and the Vikings to make the playoffs.

[AtariBigby]

Yeah, we seem to have a few naive, Packer fans here who are in denial as to how good Jared Allen is, and how good Kevin and Pat Williams are at DT.

That's the best D-Line in football now, no matter who the other DE is.

Luckily for us, they still have Tarvarris Jackson at QB.

[Twiddler]

Yeah, we seem to have a few naive, Packer fans here who are in denial as to how good Jared Allen is, and how good Kevin and Pat Williams are at DT.

That's the best D-Line in football now, no matter who the other DE is.

Luckily for us, they still have Tarvarris Jackson at QB.

Yeah, I just came into realization of how good that defensive line will be if everything works out. Holy ****.

[roughrider30]

Yeah we really are going to have to watch out for the Vikes this year unfortunately. IMO their weak spot last year was getting pressure on the QB to help out their secondary and this move significantly improves that. They still have very little at WR at this point, but I think they have to be looked at as a contender this year.

[RockJock07]

I know Allen is a player, I mean he was suspended for the first 2 games of the season, and still had 15+ sacks. Yes, on paper, the vikings have a great d-line, but their secondary is still pretty shaky and the linebackers are average. As far as the offense goes, AP of course it great but Tavaris jackson is awful and was really bad last year. He would have to make huge leaps and bounds to worry me this season. At WR Berrian is way overrated, I watched him have a awful season last year, and not to mention all he does is run vertical routes.

Overall, the vikings got better, no question about it, but many questions are still present, mainly at QB and WR.

[princefielder28]

I know Allen is a player, I mean he was suspended for the first 2 games of the season, and still had 15+ sacks. Yes, on paper, the vikings have a great d-line, but their secondary is still pretty shaky and the linebackers are average. As far as the offense goes, AP of course it great but Tavaris jackson is awful and was really bad last year. He would have to make huge leaps and bounds to worry me this season. At WR Berrian is way overrated, I watched him have a awful season last year, and not to mention all he does is run vertical routes.

Overall, the vikings got better, no question about it, but many questions are still present, mainly at QB and WR.

Part of the Vikings problems in the secondary came from a non-existent pass rush and Allen brings that. Madieu Williams, although he may not be a Pro Bowl caliber player, brings speed to the safety position which Sharper and Dwight Smith did not provide last year. I think you're also underrating their LBs. EJ Henderson has really emerged as a solid middle linebacker and continues to improve year in and year out. Chad Greenway was pretty much in his rookie season last year and he is going to improve as well. Ben Leber is not spectacular but he gets the job done and with an improved defensive line it'll help the LBs as well. The defense of Minnesota will be very tough to go against and like you mentioned there are questions remaining on the offensive side of the ball for them.

[Meta4]

Free agent Daunte Culpepper is visiting with the Packers on Wednesday.
He's being looked at as a backup for Aaron Rodgers. Culpepper might not be guaranteed the No. 2 job, as Green Bay seems likely to draft a signal caller.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080423/PKR01/80423104/1058

[AtariBigby]

Part of the Vikings problems in the secondary came from a non-existent pass rush and Allen brings that. Madieu Williams, although he may not be a Pro Bowl caliber player, brings speed to the safety position which Sharper and Dwight Smith did not provide last year. I think you're also underrating their LBs. EJ Henderson has really emerged as a solid middle linebacker and continues to improve year in and year out. Chad Greenway was pretty much in his rookie season last year and he is going to improve as well. Ben Leber is not spectacular but he gets the job done and with an improved defensive line it'll help the LBs as well. The defense of Minnesota will be very tough to go against and like you mentioned there are questions remaining on the offensive side of the ball for them.
Well-said, correctly analyzed.
It sounds like a helluva tough game for Aaron Rodgers' first game ever!
Taking over for Favre.... first game, primetime TV, vs the rival Vikings..... who have a great defense with Sharper lurking back there waiting to pick off any pass he can.

This game will be like last year's opener against Philly, in which our offense was HORRIBLE minus Jennings, but our defense and special teams saved us.

Luckily Jackson isn't as good as McNabb was, but that was McNabb's first game back from the ACL so that was a break....

[ChezPower4]

Free agent Daunte Culpepper is visiting with the Packers on Wednesday.
He's being looked at as a backup for Aaron Rodgers. Culpepper might not be guaranteed the No. 2 job, as Green Bay seems likely to draft a signal caller.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080423/PKR01/80423104/1058

I would like him as a back-up for one season, he is not a good full time starter in NFL anymore but he has shown that he can be a good QB for one or two games.

[TitleTown088]

Free agent Daunte Culpepper is visiting with the Packers on Wednesday.
He's being looked at as a backup for Aaron Rodgers. Culpepper might not be guaranteed the No. 2 job, as Green Bay seems likely to draft a signal caller.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080423/PKR01/80423104/1058

No no no no no no no a thousand times over NO.

I will be furious if this happens, ******* furious.

Just imagine... http://www.raiders.com/uploadedImages/Team/Players/Culpepper_action.jpg

[jackalope]

No no no no no no no a thousand times over NO.

I will be furious if this happens, ******* furious.

Just imagine... http://www.raiders.com/uploadedImages/Team/Players/Culpepper_action.jpg

Agreed, I don't want Culpepper at all. I couldn't stand him as a Viking.

[PackerLegend]

Does anyone know why the Packers don't just resign Craig Nall??

[TitleTown088]

Does anyone know why the Packers don't just resign Craig Nall??

Because he's terrible...?

[AtariBigby]

I hated Culpepper from the get go and know he's a cancer. He's also overrated. But now people have him figured out......

By the way, I don't like Dallas getting the premium talented Pac Man. Thugs have thrived for them before, to our expense.
See 1993-1995.

Jones was scheduled for a base salary of $1.74 million in 2008 and had been under contract through 2009 before his suspension.

He was the first defensive player drafted in 2005, sixth overall out of West Virginia, and easily was Tennessee's best defender in 2005 and '06. His four career interceptions came in 2006 as he helped the Titans to an 8-8 record. He also led the NFL in punt-return average in 2006 with 12.9 yards per return and three touchdowns.

[Nitschke-Hawk]

Time to get over the Daunte hate fellas.

Time to get BOUT IT BOUT IT

[TitleTown088]

Anyone know which season and episode of south park episode has Favre in it? I think it's relatively old.

[RockJock07]

Agreed, I don't want Culpepper at all. I couldn't stand him as a Viking.

Who the hell cares what happened when he was a member of another team? We all know that TT can scout college talent and sign FA's that will help this team, If Culpepper can still play, TT will bring him in. So if he gets signed I put more stock into that then if some other crap team signs him.

If TT feels he can play, he's gonna provide solid insurance if Aaron gets overwhelmed or gets hurt. I would feel better with Culpepper behind center rather than Nall. I don't think he get's signed if he does at all, until after the draft.

[roidrunner]

some food for thought per Rotoworld:

Some believe" that Chad Pennington could still be traded on draft day if the Jets draft Matt Ryan, according to the NY Daily News.

Considering their offseason spending spree, the Jets appear to be looking to win now, so drafting Ryan is seemingly unlikely. But a team like the Packers could be interested in Pennington if he somehow becomes available.

[Meta4]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/insider/news/story?id=3358945&univLogin02=stateChanged

Rates each teams first round draft choices from 2000-2007. Interesting what they say about Barnett.

"He has been one of the most outstanding, consistent, productive defenders in the league over his tenure in the NFL. Given his great durability, he may even be a future Hall of Famer".

[roidrunner]

Barnett a hall of famer??? well he needs to get to the Pro Bowl more often before we can talk about that. but otherwise i like what they said

[GB12]

Barnett a hall of famer??? well he needs to get to the Pro Bowl more often before we can talk about that. but otherwise i like what they said
He could easily have been to two or three probowls already. He definitely should have gone this year and there have been past years where he'd be a good option. He just doesn't get all the hype that Lofa Tatupu gets eventhough he's had a higher level of play over a longer period of time.

[cordscords]

Brett Favre is the madden cover boy.

I hope this doesnt result in some kind of a curse for the team!

[roidrunner]

He could easily have been to two or three probowls already. He definitely should have gone this year and there have been past years where he'd be a good option. He just doesn't get all the hype that Lofa Tatupu gets eventhough he's had a higher level of play over a longer period of time.

i completely agree, i think barnett is one of the most under-rated LB's in the NFL

[TitleTown088]

Barnett HOF?? Yeah right. I love the guy, and he's a very good player, but no way he'll ever be a HOF MIKE.


Also, where does it say Favre is the madded cover man?

[cordscords]

Barnett HOF?? Yeah right. I love the guy, and he's a very good player, but no way he'll ever be a HOF MIKE.


Also, where does it say Favre is the madded cover man?

Favre is on Letterman tonight. The news got out after he taped it.

[TitleTown088]

How? Schedule: The Late Show tapes one show per night Monday through Wednesday at 5:30pm and two shows on Thursday at 4:30 and 7pm. http://nycvisit.com/content/index.cfm?pagePkey=376

[cordscords]

How? http://nycvisit.com/content/index.cfm?pagePkey=376

IDK then to be honest. But there are links:

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/outofbounds/index.shtml

http://www.pastapadre.com/

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/scoop-brett-favre-to-cover-madden-nfl-09/?biz=1

[TitleTown088]

Oh o. Get ready for a freak out after everyone watches favre on Letterman tonight. He said " something is bound to happen". I wonder how many people will take that outta context.

[princefielder28]

Oh o. Get ready for a freak out after everyone watches favre on Letterman tonight. He said " something is bound to happen". I wonder how many people will take that outta context.

(puts head down) can't imagine

[AtariBigby]

http://www.geocities.com/melkiper_cards/favre_letterman.jpg

Why isn't that show on LIVE?

[princefielder28]

Brett is such a pimp

[The Legend]

if anyone finds this online can they post it so we can watch it

edit: this is what i found, but i cant seem to get it to load

http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/video_player/index/php/952439.phtml

[GB12]

if anyone finds this online can they post it so we can watch it

edit: this is what i found

http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/video_player/index/php/952439.phtml
It's on national television...

[johbur]

That was pretty funny.

Now if Letterman follows through with the training camp adjustmnet.... Then Brett will be able to attend games in the skybox and cheer Rodgers on to another division title for the Pack!

[TitleTown088]

Gotta love that rip on the bears by Favre. I miss him way too much already.

[Yatta!]

Has anyone got a link to the whole interview? Obviously being on 'national television' is of no use to me.

[The Legend]

i still wouldnt mind trading for Jason Taylor but all this talk about 1st round
make's me think its not going to happen i wouldnt mind giving up a 2nd thou

[TitleTown088]

Has anyone got a link to the whole interview? Obviously being on 'national television' is of no use to me.

Should be on there for awhile... http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/dave_tv/highlights/index/php/bigshowhighlight.phtml

[EvilMonkey]

havent looked at everything posted but here's the youtube vid of the interview if anyone needs it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjLZCtlVu64

[umphrey]

Brett Favre: So agile he even evaded the "Madden Curse." (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6189866.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0)

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/114/maddenfavre09826_screen.jpg

[RockJock07]

i still wouldnt mind trading for Jason Taylor but all this talk about 1st round
make's me think its not going to happen i wouldnt mind giving up a 2nd thou

Yeah I wouldn't either, but the Dolphins are dreaming if they think they are gonna get a 1st round pick for him. He's worth a 2nd or 3rd and if TT trades out of the 30 pick, we are gonna have 3 2nds and maybe a couple of 3rds, I'd love to give one of those for JT, he's a stud, even for his age.

[EvilMonkey]

heard on espn yesterday that they dont think anyone has offered them higher than a 4th for Taylor so far. I still dont think it will happen, Parcells just wants to get someone dumb enough to trade a first for him, but if we can trade a 3rd for him that'd be a huge steal.

[TitleTown088]

Packers released Tony Palmer today.

[PackerLegend]

Packers released Tony Palmer today.

There goes all hope of a superbowl!!! :D

[The Legend]

There goes all hope of a superbowl!!! :D

its ok im trying out for the Packers monday and im gonna make it for sure
so thats why they cut him im going to take his place, have no fear i am here

[Goatboy1717]

its ok im trying out for the Packers monday and im gonna make it for sure
so thats why they cut him im going to take his place, have no fear i am here

Oh yeah. Thats sounds great. You'll lead us to the superbowl. Right?

[johbur]

Brett Favre: So agile he even evaded the "Madden Curse." (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6189866.html?action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;0)

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/114/maddenfavre09826_screen.jpg

I'd still take Favre over anyone the Bears have, retired or not.

[Rodgers and Lynch_07]

Hey guys, I hope some of you will check out my live blog this afternoon at my blog: www.wisconsin-sports.com

Also feel free to ask questions!!!

[PACKmanN]

Is there a ps3 cover of Favre? I want to put it as my ava.

[TitleTown088]

Anyone else thing MM is lickin' his chops in anticipation for all his new offensive toys? 7/9 picks were offensive. No one can say Rodgers didn't have a good amount of targets and Ted didn't put enough effort to find talent around him.

Also, another thing I find interesting is that this draft had almost entirely to do with the pass, be it passing it or stopping the pass is what this primarily( nearly exclusively) draft concentrated on.

[Goatboy1717]

I read somewhere today that Favre is going to be a FA in Madden '09 and you will be able to sign him to whatever team you are. I don't like that at all. I know he is the cover athlete but come on.

[neko4]

im fine with that.
i just hope this year they do complete pre-training camp teams and you have to cut guys before the first game or something