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TitleTown088
09-21-2008, 07:12 PM
Espn is reporting the Packers plan to extend Rodgers by week 8 if he plays well and stays healthy.

TitleTown088
09-21-2008, 07:17 PM
Also, don't mean to toot my own horn. but just like I said, with hall out Jmike will be playing tonight.
Running back Ryan Grant (hamstring), tight end Tory Humphrey (knee) and CB Charles Woodson (toe) all are active. So is rookie TE Jermichael Finley, who had been inactive the first two games.

TitleTown088
09-22-2008, 02:49 PM
National football post is saying Harris may be out the year with a ruptured spleen. damnit.

National Football Post Writer Michael Lombardi has learned first hand that Green Bay Packers cornerback Al Harris may have a ruptured spleen, which would sideline him for the rest of the season, pending a second opinion.

princefielder28
09-22-2008, 02:51 PM
Espn is reporting the Packers plan to extend Rodgers by week 8 if he plays well and stays healthy.

yeah much like Tony Romo

Twiddler
09-22-2008, 03:29 PM
National football post is saying Harris may be out the year with a ruptured spleen. damnit.

National Football Post Writer Michael Lombardi has learned first hand that Green Bay Packers cornerback Al Harris may have a ruptured spleen, which would sideline him for the rest of the season, pending a second opinion.

Yeah, that is not good at all. Damnit. Would be a huge loss.

TitleTown088
09-22-2008, 04:35 PM
His agent is a contributer to the national football post along with Andrew Brant the packers former contract negotiator. There is prob something to it, hopefully it turns out for the better.

Jones and COllins hurt sucks too.

TitleTown088
09-22-2008, 04:57 PM
Dare I say Lito?

Doubt it, but can't say I'd object to it for a 2nd or so. Prob end up seeing what the young bucks got.

jackalope
09-22-2008, 05:05 PM
Harris being done for the season would be terrible. He's one of the last guys we can afford to loose, as I'm not that comfortable with the guys we have behind him. If this is true, we're just gonna have to hope Blackmon or Williams can step up big-time.

Goatboy1717
09-22-2008, 05:25 PM
Harris being done for the season would be terrible. He's one of the last guys we can afford to loose, as I'm not that comfortable with the guys we have behind him. If this is true, we're just gonna have to hope Blackmon or Williams can step up big-time.

They are going to have to step up BIG. Tramon Williams is supposed to start if he is out with Blackmon at nickel.

GB12
09-22-2008, 07:56 PM
This sucks. Huge blow to our defense. Also probably means the end of his career. I can't see him coming back from this after a year off and he's 34.

neko4
09-22-2008, 08:09 PM
I knew we'd hit the injury bug sometime. We'll have a rough beginning, but some of these guys will come back later and we'll finish strong and make the playoffs.
Lets hope Tramon Williams steps it up.

Random Questions:
Do we still have J-Bush?
Can Collins, Bigby, or Rouse play CB?
Any FA DB's out there?
Any guys we can trade for?
How's Pat Lee looking?

GB12
09-22-2008, 08:12 PM
I knew we'd hit the injury bug sometime. We'll have a rough beginning, but some of these guys will come back later and we'll finish strong and make the playoffs.
Lets hope Tramon Williams steps it up.

Random Questions:
Do we still have J-Bush?
Can Collins, Bigby, or Rouse play CB?
Any FA DB's out there?
Any guys we can trade for?
How's Pat Lee looking?
Jarrett Bush is on the team, don't know why you're asking though. Both Williams and Blackmon are ahead of him, maybe Lee too.

Collins can, but none of them are going to.

No.

Lito Sheppard is a name being brought up a lot and I would like to have him, but I can't see a trade happening.

Not too good so far. He was a project pick and needs time to develop though, that was known when we picked him.

TitleTown088
09-22-2008, 08:15 PM
I knew we'd hit the injury bug sometime. We'll have a rough beginning, but some of these guys will come back later and we'll finish strong and make the playoffs.
Lets hope Tramon Williams steps it up.

Random Questions:
Do we still have J-Bush? Sadly, yes
Can Collins, Bigby, or Rouse play CB? Collins bigby are banged up a bit, rouse no. I bet Collins " could play CB" but why?
Any FA DB's out there? [b]Not really any intriguing ones.
Any guys we can trade for?Lito?
How's Pat Lee looking?hasn;t sniffed the feild yet



Also probably means the end of his career. I can't see him coming back from this after a year off and he's 34.

Exactly what i was thinking, it'd be tough for him.

neko4
09-22-2008, 09:06 PM
Thanks everyone. I didnt pay a whole lot of attention to our defense because I work on Sundays now and watching Rodgers was much more fun.

I hope we dont rush Lee into the lineup like we did Carroll.

Hawk
09-22-2008, 10:56 PM
Developing corners is something we haven't been very good at.

RockJock07
09-22-2008, 11:35 PM
Lito would be nice, even better if TT could sign him to a long term deal considering the age of Al and Charles. TT loves his draft picks so I doubt that he will trade a 2nd to get him. I would probably trade the conditional pick from Brett that could turn into a 2nd or 3rd.

Btw, what is the current cap space? I thought it was around $20 mil but that's just a guess.

TitleTown088
09-23-2008, 12:25 AM
I'm pretty sure with Brett leaving it's over 30 mil. Could be off. Either way that money will likely be used up on extensions to count agianst this year's cap. Rodgers, Jennings, kampy and so on.

drowe
09-23-2008, 09:00 AM
Tramon Williams is serviceable. he looked decent on sunday night. he had good coverage on the TD to Austin. it was just a good pass/catch.

I'd love to see Will Blackmon step up.

for the 2008 Packers,this injury sucks a big sweaty pair of donkey balls.

but, in the long run, it'll be a good way of taking inventory of the yound CBs on the team.

TitleTown088
09-23-2008, 11:05 AM
Hopefully in the long run it leads Scrabble to Green bay this offseason. I man can dream, right?

PackerLegend
09-23-2008, 04:04 PM
Hopefully in the long run it leads Scrabble to Green bay this offseason. I man can dream, right?

whose scrabble? N. Aso from the Raiders?

drowe
09-23-2008, 04:05 PM
whose scrabble? N. Aso from the Raiders?

i wondered that too..i'm gonna guess Nmandi Asmuoga

GB12
09-23-2008, 07:55 PM
It wouldn't be the first time Ted Thompson took a top corner from the Raiders

neko4
09-23-2008, 07:58 PM
It wouldn't be the first time Ted Thompson took a top corner from the Raiders
It worked well last time. And Aso is young too. I doubt he'll get the contract he wants in Oakland and even after giving Jennings, Rodgers, and Kamp bigger contracts we should still have enough money left.

jackalope
09-23-2008, 08:21 PM
I would love to bring in Aso if he became available this offseason.

Our cornerback situation is obviously very concerning at the moment. I like Williams as a nickelback, but I don't really see him as a guy that can develop into a starter. Blackmon is a guy that appears to have potential to one day start, but I doubt he's ready to take that big of a role. It would be great to see one of them play well, but we'll most likely just have to give them a lot of saftey help.

TitleTown088
09-23-2008, 09:49 PM
i wondered that too..i'm gonna guess Nmandi Asmuoga

Good guess, sorry I thought it was known. Scrabble would be a beast in the packers defense.

umphrey
09-24-2008, 12:44 AM
Pat Lee is the only CB that could possibly turn into a starter for us without changing out scheme, and that isn't something we'll likely depend on

TitleTown088
09-24-2008, 10:04 AM
Pat Lee is the only CB that could possibly turn into a starter for us without changing out scheme, and that isn't something we'll likely depend on

Not this season. He hasn't even beat our J Bush yet.

TitleTown088
09-24-2008, 01:31 PM
Signed a DT,only 20 years old..


Bledsoe -- a 6-foot-3, 329-pound rookie who was a four-year letterman at Arkansas -- had a tryout with the Packers in May. An ankle injury ended his chances for being signed then.

TitleTown088
09-24-2008, 02:31 PM
Also, harris maybe not dun for season after all...
Quote:
There is a "good chance" that Green Bay cornerback Al Harris can avoid surgery on his ruptured spleen, Packers coach Mike McCarthy told reporters Wednesday, and the team hasn't ruled a possible return to the field this season.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcnorth/0-4-170/Packers--Harris-update--Wells-returns.html

Multiple reports have suggested Harris will miss the remainder of the season whether or not he has surgery, but McCarthy wasn't ready to confirm that information Wednesday. Harris is speaking with several specialists to determine his treatment program.

UPDATE: Jack Bechta, Harris' agent, reported on The National Football Post web site that Harris could start "non-impact" workouts in as little as a week if no new information surfaces on the injury -- which Bechta said was a "laceration" rather than a rupture. If so, Harris would start a timetable that would get him back on the field before the end of the season.

According to Bechta, Harris asked one doctor to remove his spleen this week so he could play Sunday. The doctor refused.

Also also. Wells will start sunday. Yippie

PackerLegend
09-24-2008, 04:12 PM
Lol remove It doc damn it!!! I want to play.... So if he can return it would be in like what 2,4,6,8 weeks?

umphrey
09-24-2008, 04:13 PM
Reminds me of Ronnie Lott...had part of his pinky cut off so he wouldn't miss time.

PackerLegend
09-24-2008, 04:14 PM
Ryan Grant (hamstring) is not on the Packers' Week 4 injury report.

The limits will come off Grant this week as he faces the Bucs' 20th ranked rush defense. Grant's season high for touches thus far is just 15, but he should get 18-20 carries on Sunday. He'll also have C Scott Wells back.

Thats good news, we need to get the running game going

jackalope
09-24-2008, 04:24 PM
If Harris is able to make it back by the playoffs, that's great news. I think we'll be able to win the division without him.

gbpackers0065
09-24-2008, 04:50 PM
It would be absolutely incredible to have Harris back eventually, I just hope we don't lose too much ground without him.

TitleTown088
09-24-2008, 05:02 PM
Mac said it might be a couple months or so. It's all depending on some more details apparently.

GB12
09-24-2008, 07:40 PM
Not this season. He hasn't even beat our J Bush yet.
Where have you seen that. I'm pretty sure he is ahead of Bush.

neko4
09-24-2008, 08:26 PM
Harris is a freaking warrior!

IMO, Playing in a system like ours usually means that the CBs have a higher sense of pride than the average CB. Harris is aching to get back in the game!

TitleTown088
09-24-2008, 10:31 PM
Where have you seen that. I'm pretty sure he is ahead of Bush.
He Is now due to the injuries at safety. This week Bush will be the back up safety. This is looking grim. The entire starting secondary is listen on the injury report.

GB12
09-24-2008, 10:33 PM
He Is now due to the injuries at safety. This week Bush will be a back up safety.
I mean like since the start of the season I think he's been ahead of Bush.

jackalope
09-25-2008, 07:16 AM
I mean like since the start of the season I think he's been ahead of Bush.

Well, Lee has been inactive for the first three games this season, while Bush has played. This is probably largely due to Bush's special teams duties though.

TitleTown088
09-25-2008, 10:11 AM
Yeah, I'd guess that's what I've been basing it off as well. Maybe not 100% accurate but it Lee had impressed one would think he would have at leased been active.

GB12
09-25-2008, 06:51 PM
Yeah, I'd guess that's what I've been basing it off as well. Maybe not 100% accurate but it Lee had impressed one would think he would have at leased been active.
He's been inactive because we already had 5 corners active.

Harris and Woodson are the starters
Williams is the nickle
Blackmon is the dime and kick returner
Bush is a reserve that can play both corner and safety and is on most special teams.
Lee is a developing corner who is only better than Bush

It's really not a tough decission to make between Bush and Lee as to who should be active. Once you get that far down on the depth chart the difference between the players isn't that great and you don't expect them to play much anyways. Again I'm not 100% on this as I haven't seen anything to confirm this, but I'm pretty sure he's above Bush.

TitleTown088
09-26-2008, 10:07 AM
But the thing is he hasn't pressed bush out the spot yet....


anyways... http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/packers_offensive_line

GB12
09-26-2008, 12:41 PM
But the thing is he hasn't pressed bush out the spot yet....


anyways... http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/packers_offensive_line
Because he doesn't play special teams and can't be an emergency safety like Bush can...

I guess with Harris out we might see this week

TitleTown088
09-26-2008, 05:54 PM
Some encouraging news...

coach Mike McCarthy said cornerback Al Harris could be back in a month.

"I'd say it's safe it's going to be at least three to four weeks," McCarthy said, when asked about the timetable for Harris' return. "The thing that we know for sure is we've had to totally shut him down for seven days, so he'll start probably Monday morning with some form of conditioning, and it will just progress as we move forward. There will be some tests that are done along the way. I don't have an exact timeframe for you."

GB12
09-26-2008, 10:00 PM
Tramon Williams will replace Harris Sunday at Tampa Bay. Will Blackmon moves up to nickel back and Pat Lee moves up to dime back.

Also Martin will be back and will be the 4th WR, ahead of Jordy Nelson

jackalope
09-26-2008, 10:27 PM
Some encouraging news...

The news on Harris seems to just keep getting better. I guess the reports that his career was over were a bit overblown.

PackerLegend
09-26-2008, 11:17 PM
Also Martin will be back and will be the 4th WR, ahead of Jordy Nelson

Unless James Jones is playing which I dont think he is the 4th WR would put him behind Jordy.

TitleTown088
09-27-2008, 12:54 AM
Tramon Williams will replace Harris Sunday at Tampa Bay. Will Blackmon moves up to nickel back and Pat Lee moves up to dime back

With Bush as backup at safety, it was implied that was what was going to happen all along. I hope he plays well this weekend so when he can stay there ahead of bush too.


Jones is doubtful legend. I'm in favor of shutting him down in order to get him healthy.

TitleTown088
09-28-2008, 03:40 PM
The initial diagnosis of Aaron Rodgers' injury is a bruised throwing shoulder, coach Mike McCarthy said after today's game.

GB12
09-28-2008, 03:47 PM
There aren't many things that I have disagreed with Ted Thompson on, but he kind of blew it cutting Jon Ryan for Frost.

umphrey
09-28-2008, 03:56 PM
I agree I guess, I just wish we could make them into one player who could kick it to the sidelines and kick it farther than 30 yards

As stupid as it sounds (and is), I keep wishing we kept both and used Ryan when we were on our side of the field and Frost when we were in theirs

On the bright side, how about Nick Collins? Going into the season a lot of people questioned his starting job, but he's been playing at a pro bowl level all year. Very good in coverage and he's finally making plays. Also he's the only one who doesn't get penalties every game.

Unfortunately, Rouse doesn't look like the starting caliber guy I thought he was

TitleTown088
09-28-2008, 04:29 PM
The initial diagnosis of Aaron Rodgers' injury is a bruised throwing shoulder, coach Mike McCarthy said after today's game.




UPDATE: Rodgers said he thinks the shoulder is separated but isn't sure. Again, tests will occur tonight or Monday morning.


****

PackerLegend
09-28-2008, 04:35 PM
Well hopefully the Bears lose to Philly tonight then atleast we will still be in the same position as when last week ended. Our division could look like Packers 2-2, Vikings 1-3, Bears 1-3 (hopefully), Lions 0-3.... thats pretty bad. We have Atlanta (home), Seattle (away), Colts (home) then our bye........ Hopefully going in 5-2 but probably 4-3 I hope no worse. Then Titans, Vikings, Bears, Saints, Panthers, Texans, Jaguars, Bears, Lions. So hmmmmm

The injury bug is killing us. And if Rodgers is out for awhile, we are in a world of trouble.

GB12
09-28-2008, 04:49 PM
There is such a huge difference between being 3-1 and 2-2

neko4
09-28-2008, 04:57 PM
Unfortunately, Rouse doesn't look like the starting caliber guy I thought he was

He is still a year away I suppose. The guy has a ton of potential he's just not ready yet.

GB12
09-28-2008, 04:59 PM
On the bright side, how about Nick Collins? Going into the season a lot of people questioned his starting job, but he's been playing at a pro bowl level all year. Very good in coverage and he's finally making plays. Also he's the only one who doesn't get penalties every game.

Unfortunately, Rouse doesn't look like the starting caliber guy I thought he was
I've been saying that all along. I still don't understand why every jumped to Rouse. Collins is much better.

neko4
09-28-2008, 05:01 PM
I've been saying that all along. I still don't understand why every jumped to Rouse. Collins is much better.
Because Collins isnt really a playmaker, whereas Rouse got an in his first start I believe. Also Rouse is much bigger

ChezPower4
09-28-2008, 07:03 PM
I've been saying that all along. I still don't understand why every jumped to Rouse. Collins is much better.

I was one of the guys who was highly critical of Collins, and wanted Rouse to play in his spot. I think that we can all agree now that Collins is playing better this season than he has ever played. He has been very good agaist the run and good in coverage like he has been for the last couple of years but now he's making a lot plays on the ball and forcing turnovers and is now one of our better defensive players. I can't wait to have Nick and Atari patrolling the back end of our defense again.

GB12
09-28-2008, 07:09 PM
I was one of the guys who was highly critical of Collins, and wanted Rouse to play in his spot. I think that we can all agree now that Collins is playing better this season than he has ever played. He has been very good agaist the run and good in coverage like he has been for the last couple of years but now he's making a lot plays on the ball and forcing turnovers and is now one of our better defensive players. I can't wait to have Nick and Atari patrolling the back end of our defense again.
Bigby will be a nice boost to our defense when he gets back. Specifically in the run game. We need that extra player that'll come up and take down the ball carrier. Rouse just can't get it, he keeps missing tackles or giving weak hits that allows the runner to still get the first. Bigby will knock him backwards and can actually wrap up when needed.

TitleTown088
09-28-2008, 07:33 PM
Apparently Jay glazer is reporting Hawk has a torn groin. This is ridiculous. Rouse, Bigby, Jones, Hawk, Jenkins, Rodgers, Harris, and Collins. I think last years injury free season is coming back to bite the Packers in the ass.

jackalope
09-28-2008, 07:51 PM
Apparently Jay glazer is reporting Hawk has a torn groin. This is ridiculous. Rouse, Bigby, Jones, Hawk, Jenkins, Rodgers, Harris, and Collins. I think last years injury free season is coming back to bite the Packers in the ass.

Yeah, this just isn't shaping up to be a good season for us.

PackerLegend
09-28-2008, 08:53 PM
Ok so injuries, Ive lost track....

In bold are the players that should be good to go next week againist the Falcons, everyone else... Not looking to good, hopefully some of them play.




Atari Bigby, hamstring - Next week - ??? This was his second game sitting out

Nick Collins, back - He played but reinjured himself so we will have to wait
apparntly could barely put his pants on.

Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila, knee - Played and should be ready next week to

Korey Hall, knee - ??? This was his second game sitting out

Al Harris, spleen - out obvisouly

James Jones, knee - ?? Sat out after reinjuring

Kregg Lumpkin, hamstring - ?? who knows

Aaron Rouse, knee - reinjured himself so who knows how bad

Josh Sitton, knee - could have played will be off injury report

Charles Woodson, toe - Woods the man and will play next week

Aaron Rodgers, Shoulder - not looking good unless its just a bruise

AJ Hawk, Groin - Havent heard its torn yet, only that the extent is still unkown (TT088) :( hope not

Will Blackmon, quad - He returned and finished the game so thats good

Jason Hunter, hamstring - not another hammy.....

Cullen Jenkins, shoulder - reportedly could barley move his arm

bearsfan_51
09-28-2008, 08:56 PM
Nick Collins, back - He played but reinjured himself so we will have to wait
apparntly could barely put his pants on.
Maybe he could play pantless.

Goatboy1717
09-28-2008, 09:02 PM
Maybe he could play pantless.

I wish it was that easy.

This injury bug ******* sucks.

TitleTown088
09-28-2008, 10:53 PM
Oh don't forget the icing on the cake



Every time Charles Woodson plays in a game, the toe on his right foot hurts just as much as it did when he broke it in the regular-season opener.


That suggests the toe isn’t healing much

I don’t know,” said Woodson, who has not missed a game but has not practiced since the opening week of the regular season. “I’m struggling right now.”

Also injured were defensive backups Jason Hunter (hamstring) and Will Blackmon (quad). Hunter did not return, but Blackmon did.

Yippie!

Are these Packers really that unlucky or just a bunch of cupcakes?

Sportsfan486
09-29-2008, 01:58 AM
So. Wow. Injuries.. wtf? Even without injuries we'd be in rough shape, considering our run game is worse than it was LAST year at this point and our run defense is beyond horrible.

If Rodger's misses any time we lose whatever games he misses. No question. Flynn is horrible. Brohm is even worse. They haven't really looked even decent for a rookie QB at any point.

Turner is going to completely destroy us.. a game that I had marked as easy win to start the season is now a game I have marked as almost a sure loss.

TitleTown088
09-29-2008, 10:13 AM
So. considering our run game is worse than it was LAST year at this point
.

I'm not sure about last game but before this week our rushing offense was statistically well ahead of where we were at this point last season. Albeit because of Rodgers.

drowe
09-29-2008, 11:53 AM
i'm calling RB as our #1 need this off season.

Ryan Grant has been a bag of dicks this year. no vision. no burst. he looks for people to tackle him. but at least he fumbles a lot. brandon jackson doensn't look much better.

bearsfan_51
09-29-2008, 12:03 PM
i'm calling RB as our #1 need this off season.

Ryan Grant has been a bag of dicks this year. no vision. no burst. he looks for people to tackle him. but at least he fumbles a lot. brandon jackson doensn't look much better.
I would imagine that a bag of dicks would be pretty hard to tackle, unless you're Paris Hilton.

TitleTown088
09-29-2008, 12:37 PM
i'm calling RB as our #1 need this off season.

Ryan Grant has been a bag of dicks this year. no vision. no burst. he looks for people to tackle him. but at least he fumbles a lot. brandon jackson doensn't look much better.

Aside from offensive line, sure, I could see it.

TitleTown088
09-29-2008, 12:38 PM
IN MM's press conference on right now he said Rodgers has a shoulder sprain and Hawk didn't tear his groin. Cullen still getting looked at.

umphrey
09-29-2008, 01:13 PM
Unless we get a high pick I don't think we would have a chance to draft any running backs that would be any better than Grant. What I'm hoping for is an agile back that can run in the open field. These can be found all over the draft. Watching guys like Warrick Dunn and Leon Washington shows how crappy our backs are in the open field - they help their teams a lot and it's a dimension that is simply nonexistent for us.

Hawk
09-29-2008, 02:04 PM
I think our number one need still has to be on defense. We need another #1 CB, and more depth on the D line. I think someone like Tim Jamison from Michigan would be nice. We could line him up inside or out, like we do with Cullen. For cornerback, we need someone that can come in right away and play. **** this developmental player ********.

Our offensive line will come around. I'm pretty confident that we have the depth and talent to turn the running game into a positive, whether it be Grant, Jackson, Lumpkin, or some Samkon Gado bastard that we pick up.

Dr. Gonzo
09-29-2008, 02:07 PM
I guess you guys are wishing you still had Craig Nall right about now.

roughrider30
09-29-2008, 02:52 PM
Here's a little better news:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3616373

It seems Rodgers has a sprained shoulder not a separated shoulder.

Sportsfan486
09-29-2008, 03:59 PM
I'm not sure about last game but before this week our rushing offense was statistically well ahead of where we were at this point last season. Albeit because of Rodgers.

True, I exaggerated a bit there. Just rather pissed at Grant for not only destroying the Packer's this week but also my fantasy team, lol. 17 touches for 0 points in fantasy, GG.

TitleTown088
09-29-2008, 04:04 PM
True, I exaggerated a bit there. Just rather pissed at Grant for not only destroying the Packer's this week but also my fantasy team, lol. 17 touches for 0 points in fantasy, GG.
Oh no doubt he's playing terrible, but as a team we're technically doing better. It's still rather pathetic.

PackerLegend
09-29-2008, 04:06 PM
Like McCarthy has said Grant and the o-line arent in sync right now due to a lack of practice basically and the shuffle of the o-line so far. Now that the o-line is set and Grant is almost fully healthly things should get better each week. The Falcons give up 131 rushing yards a game so hopefully we can atleast get 100.

Yatta!
09-29-2008, 04:37 PM
The running game will improve, maybe it won't reach the level of last year but Grant will come on. CB is definitely going to be our biggest need going into the draft imo.

princefielder28
09-29-2008, 07:12 PM
The running game will improve, maybe it won't reach the level of last year but Grant will come on. CB is definitely going to be our biggest need going into the draft imo.

It doesn't matter what our biggest "need" is come draft time b/c TT will always suprise us

Favre4ever
09-29-2008, 08:11 PM
The running game will improve, maybe it won't reach the level of last year but Grant will come on. CB is definitely going to be our biggest need going into the draft imo.

The CB's play so far is far from being a concern this year. RB, OL and interior DL are.

umphrey
09-30-2008, 09:29 AM
I don't see how another young CB would help us. We either need to develop the guys we have or go the FA route there.

Favre4ever
09-30-2008, 11:55 AM
I have to admit something here; ive been on Nick Collins back all of last year but he seems to finally be the player we thought he would be. 3 picks in 4 games!!

TitleTown088
09-30-2008, 12:27 PM
Everyone read for some ******* Dandy news? Jenkins out for the season with a torn pectoral.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2008/09/jenkins-to-be-placed-on-ir-done-for-season/

Son of a *****.


HarrelL, get your fat cupcake ass healthy, quick.

drowe
09-30-2008, 12:39 PM
that one hurts. bad.

princefielder28
09-30-2008, 12:45 PM
that one hurts. bad.

what was a great spot for us last year, the DL, has quickly become a place of great question

umphrey
09-30-2008, 02:26 PM
Jenkins injury hurts worse than anyone on the DL because we like to move him around to compensate for OTHER injuries

Pacific
09-30-2008, 02:31 PM
Jenkins injury got me thinking about our D-Line and then I remembered Johnny Jolly's situation. If I remember correctly he has a court date in November but is there anything I've missed regarding his thing?

Boston
09-30-2008, 02:35 PM
******* damnit.

PackerLegend
09-30-2008, 04:09 PM
COME BACK !!!!

http://www.sportsattic2.com/nflphotos/photos12/Brown,Gilbert17.jpg
http://www.sportsattic2.com/nflphotos/photos12/Brown,Gilbert13.jpg


He is only 37 :D

Hawk
09-30-2008, 04:17 PM
COME BACK !!!!

http://www.sportsattic2.com/nflphotos/photos12/Brown,Gilbert17.jpg
http://www.sportsattic2.com/nflphotos/photos12/Brown,Gilbert13.jpg


He is only 37 :D

I'd be cool with him just laying down on the line of scrimmage and just hoping his fat ass will be able to trip someone up.

someone447
09-30-2008, 04:40 PM
COME BACK !!!!

http://www.sportsattic2.com/nflphotos/photos12/Brown,Gilbert17.jpg
http://www.sportsattic2.com/nflphotos/photos12/Brown,Gilbert13.jpg


He is only 37 :D

WE NEED YOU GILBERT!!!

umphrey
09-30-2008, 04:59 PM
Jenkins injury got me thinking about our D-Line and then I remembered Johnny Jolly's situation. If I remember correctly he has a court date in November but is there anything I've missed regarding his thing?

I forgot about that too...I went to check what happened with it and JS ran a story about it only an hour ago



Green Bay -- Defensive tackle Johnny Jolly was scheduled to go in front of a judge to face felony drug charges in Houston today, but the court date was pushed back to Oct. 28, according to a spokesperson with the 262nd District Court in Houston..

Jolly has yet to be indicted for the alleged crime and a grand jury has not yet been formed to hear the case and determine whether charges should be brought.

If a grand jury doesn't hear the case before Oct. 28, the judge will make a decision on whether to proceed with a trial.

The Packers have a bye on Sunday, Oct. 26 and the players probably will have off Tuesday the 28th.

The case has been delayed several times, once because the Houston courts were shut down due to Hurricane Ike.

Jolly faces felony charges of possessing at least 200 grams of codeine. According to news stories citing the official police report, cups of liquid codeine were found in a car Jolly and several friends were in and a bag of marijuana was found on a 22-year-old man. A 21-year-old was also arrested for misdemeanor unlawful carrying of a weapon.

I remember hearing that a suspension would be relatively minor (1-4 games) because he's a first time offender.

I also noticed this interesting article

Tony Mandarich, who was taken No. 2 overall by the Packers in the 1989 draft, says in an interview he was addicted to alcohol and painkillers the entire time he played in Green Bay.

Mandarich also admits for the first time he used anabolic steroids while he played at Michigan State.

Mandarich, a tackle, played for the Packers from 1989 to '91. He was drafted one spot behind Dallas quarterback Troy Aikman and one spot ahead of Detroit running back Barry Sanders.

Mandarich made these revelations during an interview with Armen Keteyian, the chief investigative correspondent for CBS News. That interview is to air Wednesday night on Showtime's "Inside the NFL," a program produced by CBS Sports.

ChezPower4
09-30-2008, 05:30 PM
Everyone read for some ******* Dandy news? Jenkins out for the season with a torn pectoral.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2008/09/jenkins-to-be-placed-on-ir-done-for-season/

Son of a *****.


HarrelL, get your fat cupcake ass healthy, quick.

WOW!!! Like we our line could afford any type of injury! MOTHER F*****

Goatboy1717
09-30-2008, 05:38 PM
That injury is terrible news. Wow.

TitleTown088
09-30-2008, 11:46 PM
Packers signed DE Kenny Pettway.
Pettway and Patrick Chukwurah were brought in for tryouts Tuesday with Cullen Jenkins out for the season with a torn pectorals muscle. Because of his size, Pettway is more of a pass rusher as opposed to a run stopper.
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel


He was the guy who was with Collier when he was shot.

TitleTown088
09-30-2008, 11:55 PM
Packers also work out punter, tight ends

The Packers worked out a punter, first-year player Ricky Schmitt, on Tuesday.

Schmitt, who was in training camp with the Arizona Cardinals in 2007 and the San Francisco 49ers this season, could be a candidate to replace struggling veteran Derrick Frost, who appears to be on a short leash after poor performances in each of the last three games.

The Packers also worked out tight ends Jason Goode and Jason Husband. Could be some more changes a comin.

Goatboy1717
10-01-2008, 12:42 AM
Whats up with Jon Ryan? If he hasnt been picked up, is there a chance he comes back?

Twiddler
10-01-2008, 08:21 AM
Whats up with Jon Ryan? If he hasnt been picked up, is there a chance he comes back?

The Seahawks signed him. I'm not sure if its for the full season but I just know they did.

Gay Ork Wang
10-01-2008, 09:01 AM
whats worse, the bears OL or the Packer DL + injuries

princefielder28
10-01-2008, 10:14 AM
whats worse, the bears OL or the Packer DL + injuries

Packers DL...there is still Pickett, Jolly, and Kampman but absolutely no depth

TitleTown088
10-01-2008, 01:05 PM
Well, the national football post is reporting Rodgers is doing much better and should be able to keep all velocity and such. GB press gazette however says he was held out of throwing drills today, but they were not able to view the entire practice.

ChezPower4
10-01-2008, 08:25 PM
would be nice if we had Harrel right now

PackerLegend
10-02-2008, 05:20 PM
Woodson is defensive player of the month!

Also Kenny Pettway who we just signed, I didnt realize this tell now but he was with Richard Collier who was shot 14 times..... Who lost his leg and is paralyzed, Kenny is a lucky man to not have been hit.

ChezPower4
10-02-2008, 06:42 PM
Woodson is defensive player of the month!

Also Kenny Pettway who we just signed, I didnt realize this tell now but he was with Richard Collier who was shot 14 times..... Who lost his leg and is paralyzed, Kenny is a lucky man to not have been hit.

that is really lucky... sad what happened Collier

TitleTown088
10-02-2008, 10:36 PM
Packers DL...there is still Pickett, Jolly, and Kampman but absolutely no depth

Wrongo, he have Harrell coming back!

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=802056

That sally better stay healthy.

Twiddler
10-02-2008, 11:07 PM
Wrongo, he have Harrell coming back!

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=802056

That sally better stay healthy.

I hope he'll be able to play. I have (relatively) high hopes for him. Maybe its just a gut feeling, but I think he might actually be worth something come the second half of the year. But I very well could be wrong.

PackerLegend
10-02-2008, 11:19 PM
Nick Collins and James Jones practiced in full and both sound like their playing Sunday.

Bibgy still has a hammy but has a shot at playing this weekend probably 50-50. Rouse doesn't sound to likely as he knee isnt improving as well as expected. So Charlie Peprah will play if neither get the nod.

Hawk has a slight chance at playing.
Korey Hall, Kregg Lumpkin..... Dont know
Aaron Rodgers... Tomorrow's a big indicator

drowe
10-03-2008, 09:45 AM
so, anybody else worried about missing packer games because of the time warner-fox fight?

for those that don't know..

http://www.tellthetruthwluk.com/main.php

ChezPower4
10-03-2008, 04:17 PM
I have sunday Ticket :D

Goatboy1717
10-03-2008, 05:17 PM
I have sunday Ticket :D

:D. Yep. Loving it.

iloxygenil
10-03-2008, 07:47 PM
:D. Yep. Loving it.

MEEE too. Friggin best investment ever.

ChezPower4
10-03-2008, 08:45 PM
MEEE too. Friggin best investment ever.

OH yes it is, and i love it

umphrey
10-05-2008, 04:00 PM
Another craptastic weekend for wisconsin sports. Not much to say really. One comment though - why does our defense always look like they are playing with 9 or 10 players? We always only rush 4 and the 7 in coverage never seem to get it done. Or on the one of two times we blitz in a game we send maybe 5 or 6 and they are absolutely guaranteed to leave someone wide open.

TitleTown088
10-05-2008, 06:21 PM
Another craptastic weekend for wisconsin sports. Not much to say really. One comment though - why does our defense always look like they are playing with 9 or 10 players? We always only rush 4 and the 7 in coverage never seem to get it done. Or on the one of two times we blitz in a game we send maybe 5 or 6 and they are absolutely guaranteed to leave someone wide open.

Because Bob Sanders is a waterhead.

GB12
10-05-2008, 07:03 PM
One good thing that has come from these past couple weeks is the play of Tramon Williams. I used to think that he could be a very good nickel but would never be a starter for us. If how he's played so far is any indication I might be wrong.

Goatboy1717
10-05-2008, 08:52 PM
Pat Lee looked good today too. The future looks bright for him.

PackerLegend
10-05-2008, 10:58 PM
Ryan Grant started to show improvement and Rodgers played real good with a bad arm just the int was the only mistake. Sometimes he holds it a little to long but he should learn in time.

If we continue to not get to pass rush we are going to lose alot. Ryan wasn't sacked once, only hit once or twice and hurried 6-7 times. Justin Harrell better be the second coming of Reggie White....

GB12
10-05-2008, 11:01 PM
If we continue to not get to pass rush we are going to lose alot. Ryan wasn't sacked once, only hit once or twice and hurried 6-7 times. Justin Harrell better be the second coming of Reggie White....
We haven't had a single sack in the past two weeks.

TitleTown088
10-06-2008, 10:13 AM
Pat Lee looked good today too. The future looks bright for him.
Aside from fallin over early in the game, He really did. That strip he made on Roddy (I think?) was awesome.
Also, this looks like a nice play to me.

http://cmsimg.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=U0&Date=20081005&Category=PKR01&ArtNo=81005052&Ref=AR&Profile=1058&MaxW=550&MaxH=650&title=0


I really don't want to complain about the refs too much because the Packers got beat fair and square, plus penalties are part of the game. However, they really called a pretty bad game both ways. If you watch the field goal over again Finley doesn't even touch anyone( as MM pointed out in his presser), I hope they make a mistake with the number or something but I sure don't see it.

Yatta!
10-06-2008, 02:22 PM
Rodgers is going to be held out of practice until Thursday and he is only expected to be limited on Thursday. per NFL.com

TitleTown088
10-06-2008, 04:37 PM
I really hope this shoulder isn't a lingering problem.

ChezPower4
10-06-2008, 04:49 PM
Rodgers is going to be held out of practice until Thursday and he is only expected to be limited on Thursday. per NFL.com

I'm wondering how long Aaron can keep up with littlle practice and continue to play well. I hope he can make it to the bye week and then get healthy cuz watching him play yesterday i just kept wondering how long can he keep going with his arm in obvious pain.

GB12
10-06-2008, 09:43 PM
Greg Jennings leads the league in receiving yards with 569. That's 102 more yards than second place Larry Fitzgerald.

TitleTown088
10-06-2008, 11:16 PM
Yes, Greg Jennings is good.


Want a new Punter? You may be in luck!

Quote:
Former Bay Port High School and University of Wisconsin punter Ken DeBauche was among four punters who worked out for the Packers today.

DeBauche signed with the Packers as a free agent after the draft but was released shortly before training camp opened.

The other punters were: former Pro Bowler Scott Player, Zac Atterberry and Waylon Prather.

Player is the only one who has kicked in an NFL regular-season game. He played for the Arizona Cardinals from 1998 to 2006 and made the Pro Bowl in 2000. He punted for the Cleveland Browns last season and was signed by the New England Patriots this offseason but did not make the team. In 727 career punts, he has career averages of 43.1 (gross) and 36.1 (net).

DeBauche, Waylon and Atterberry have no NFL experience.

The Packers also worked out long snapper Kevin Garvoille of UW-Whitewater.

Most teams work out players on Tuesday. The fact that the Packers did so on Monday could indicate that they are strongly considering cutting punter Derrick Frost and/or long snapper Brett Goode.

GB12
10-06-2008, 11:17 PM
Scott Player please.

PackerLegend
10-06-2008, 11:32 PM
You guys know what this means..... another new holder if Frost is cut.... But hell ya hopefully he is, the dude sucks.

Yatta!
10-07-2008, 08:00 AM
Heck we should get player for his facial hair alone. And Greg Jennings is a beast, he's the reason my fantasy team is undefeated.

http://images.quickblogcast.com/92833-85572/Scott_Player_Mustache___for_blog.png

umphrey
10-07-2008, 02:44 PM
Jennings is on pace for 1821 right now

GB12
10-07-2008, 06:16 PM
Tracy White was released. Danny Lansanah will take his roster spot.

Surprising move.

ChezPower4
10-07-2008, 06:19 PM
Tracy White was released. Danny Lansanah will take his roster spot.

Surprising move.

Wow would not think we'd release him, he's been a great special teams player for us. I'm loving us getting a new punter Frost has been a total blunder, i think that almost anyone can punt better than him :D

RockJock07
10-07-2008, 06:23 PM
Tracy White was released. Danny Lansanah will take his roster spot.

Surprising move.

Yeah, surprising indeed. He was coveted by the Steelers this off-season, the packers up their offer if i'm not mistaken to keep him.

Lansanah looked well in the pre-season, so we will see.

GB12
10-07-2008, 06:32 PM
Yeah, surprising indeed. He was coveted by the Steelers this off-season, the packers up their offer if i'm not mistaken to keep him.

Lansanah looked well in the pre-season, so we will see.
The Broncos wanted him and had a better offer, but he thought he had a better chance of player linebacker in Green Bay so he signed with us.

PackerLegend
10-07-2008, 06:35 PM
Wow wtf.......... Teds answer "blah blah blah blah ill just basically dance around the question" HOW about we ****ing cut Derrick Frost who blows.. Sure Ryan shanked some but atleast he boomed some and could run like a freak!

PackerLegend
10-07-2008, 06:40 PM
Wait wait I found it!

Lansanah will start out on special teams. "We're kind of excited about Danny," GM Ted Thompson said. "We think he's ready to play. We thought he had a good summer and he's done well so far."


Blah Blah blah dont sound so overly confident...

How about Were really excited, We Know he is ready to play, and leave out "we thought"

GB12
10-07-2008, 06:43 PM
Wait wait I found it!




Blah Blah blah dont sound so overly confident...
What is supposed to say other than he thinks he's ready? No one can confidently say that a practice squad player is ready for sure. Chances are he's a better LB than White. White was only here for his special teams and I guess he wasn't performing well enough there to keep a roster spot. I don't know, I haven't noticed him this season.

TitleTown088
10-07-2008, 07:09 PM
I really hope that has nothing to do with Hawk's injury. Although I doubt they would have played him last week if it were more serious.

Twiddler
10-07-2008, 07:18 PM
Wait wait I found it!




Blah Blah blah dont sound so overly confident...

How about Were really excited, We Know he is ready to play, and leave out "we thought"

I think you're looking too much into his words. Try not to overreact, granted White was a great special teamer, but its not like we just cut Nick Barnett. I'm sure that this won't drastically affect the team.

ChezPower4
10-07-2008, 07:26 PM
I think you're looking too much into his words. Try not to overreact, granted White was a great special teamer, but its not like we just cut Nick Barnett. I'm sure that this won't drastically affect the team.

we need some of our special teams to prefrom since it seems that our last two games were lost in part because our special teams have not been good especialy the the damn punting game.

CUT FROST!!!!

TitleTown088
10-08-2008, 06:52 PM
Maybe if TT is patient with the punting situation he'll be able to get a nice pick up if Kluwe gets cut. According to this Chilly is pissed and they worked out 4 punters recently. http://blogs.startribune.com/vikingsblog/?p=2016


Also, new DE signed to practice squad... uote:
Green Bay - The Packers signed defensive end Rudolph Hardie to the practice squad.

The 6-2, 269-pound undrafted rookie from Howard was in training camp with the Detroit Lions before being released on cutdown day. The Packers worked him out late last month.


Compares To: OSI UMENYIORA-New York Giants...Yes, Hardie is a raw prospect who still needs to mature physically, but he is a relentless pass rusher. He might lack explosive timed speed, but his balance, body control and sheer determination has helped him reside in the opposition's backfield. Give him a few years under a patient coaching mentor and you could see the second coming of Umenyiora.


Hardie will wear No. 69 for the Packers

GB12
10-09-2008, 09:05 PM
The Dolphins were planning on signing Danny Lansanah from our practice squad to their 53 man roster. Probably the main reason why we cut White.

ChezPower4
10-09-2008, 09:25 PM
Heck we should get player for his facial hair alone. And Greg Jennings is a beast, he's the reason my fantasy team is undefeated.

http://images.quickblogcast.com/92833-85572/Scott_Player_Mustache___for_blog.png

How does a fasemask like this protect someone? seems like he'd be better off just not having a fasemask

GB12
10-09-2008, 09:36 PM
How does a fasemask like this protect someone? seems like he'd be better off just not having a fasemask
It doesn't. He doesn't even have his chin strap on. If he took a good hit he'd suffer some major damage to the head. Being a punter the chances of that happening aren't likely for him though.

Twiddler
10-09-2008, 09:37 PM
How does a fasemask like this protect someone? seems like he'd be better off just not having a fasemask

Honestly, who needs a facemask when you have a fu-manchu like that?

PackerLegend
10-09-2008, 11:31 PM
I dont know if id want a guy with a facemask like that. It just looks reeeeetarded. Almost as bad as David Carr and his white *** gloves.

someone447
10-10-2008, 01:30 AM
I dont know if id want a guy with a facemask like that. It just looks reeeeetarded. Almost as bad as David Carr and his white *** gloves.

With a 'stache like that how do you even notice the facemask? Only two men top his mustache in the facial hair department:
Burt Reynolds:
http://willwilkinson.net/flybottle/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/znaniBurt%20Reynolds.jpg

and

Ambrose Burnside:
http://cascolytravel.com/images/burnside.jpg

umphrey
10-10-2008, 10:41 AM
Who looks like they have a shot at the pro bowl this year? It's really early, but assuming they stay on pace:

Jennings looks to have a good chance.
Woodson will likely make it
Nick Collins has an outside chance. IF he keeps up his production he might make it but he has the uphill battle of no name recognition.
Kampman has a chance, he has the downhill battle of having name recognition.
Rodgers has a very outside chance. Romo/Brees/McNabb will all get in over him if they stay healthy. And he probably won't make it if we finish under 500.

bearsfan_51
10-10-2008, 11:29 AM
If the Packers fail to make the playoffs you can expect the limit to be 2-3 guys.

I think most people know who Kampman is at this point. I would put he and Jennings as the most likely favorites. Charles Woodson may have more difficulty, although the NFC isn't really stacked at the cornerback position.

drowe
10-10-2008, 11:33 AM
Jennings is the only one that would upset me if he DIDN'T go.

Kampman annoys me sometimes. he seems to disappear for games on end annually. we really could've used some pass rush these last 2 weeks, but he just wasn't there. sacks just come in bunches with him.

Yatta!
10-10-2008, 11:41 AM
Jennings, Kampman and Woodson would probably go if it was decided today. I can't see anyone else making it unless we seriously step up our game.

ChezPower4
10-10-2008, 03:09 PM
Jennings, Kampman and Woodson would probably go if it was decided today. I can't see anyone else making it unless we seriously step up our game.

I'd have to agree with that. kinda sucks Barnett isn't playing as well as last year. I felt that if he played this year like he did last year he would make his first pro bowl but sadly that's not the case.

TitleTown088
10-11-2008, 12:50 PM
Lumpkin to practice IR, Wynn back in?

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/11/packers-activate-deshawn-wynn-lumpkin-out-for-season/

Favre4
10-11-2008, 01:03 PM
profootballtalk usually isnt too dependable. could be true though. i hope it is to be honest. lumpkin is one of those guys that should be granted lifetime eligibility in the college ranks. he has reached his potential. maybe thompson should spend a draft pick on a back instead of trying to make diamonds out of the guys that are sitting on the bottom of other teams depth charts.

EvilMonkey
10-11-2008, 06:09 PM
Lumpkin to practice IR, Wynn back in?

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/10/11/packers-activate-deshawn-wynn-lumpkin-out-for-season/

like Lumpkin so not to thrilled about it but nice to have Wynn back on the roster knowing no one else can pick him up off the practice squad. Not a huge fan of Wynn but the talent is there. The question was always work ethic and maybe him getting cut and no one else picking him up was the kick in the butt he needed to realize he needs to work if he wants to be in this league and hopefully he'll improve, still has the talent to be a real good back.

TitleTown088
10-11-2008, 10:19 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/385/story/836918.html

Apparently the Packers are one of a few teams to show interest in trading for Tony G.

rumfinator
10-12-2008, 01:29 AM
like Lumpkin so not to thrilled about it but nice to have Wynn back on the roster knowing no one else can pick him up off the practice squad. Not a huge fan of Wynn but the talent is there. The question was always work ethic and maybe him getting cut and no one else picking him up was the kick in the butt he needed to realize he needs to work if he wants to be in this league and hopefully he'll improve, still has the talent to be a real good back.

I concur. He just needs to toughen up and run hard with the ball in his hands. With his size, speed, and hands...this guy could of been a first day pick if not for all the injuries that killed him.

Favre4ever
10-12-2008, 08:41 PM
Hey guys i want to give props to Tramon Williams here. 3 picks since replacing Harris, always around the ball while being very physical. Our DB group is becoming a strength and to those who say that it should be our first need couldnt be more wrong. Pat Lee seems to be a very good pick up and Blackmon has done a very good job so far.

Our main concern is at the DL position where lies the key to our D. We have very quick tenacious LB's but not the biggest corps. That is why it is very important for our DLinemen to control the line of scrimmage, if not, then we have the results that we have seen the past 3 games. The return of Harell and Hunter should help though...

Boston
10-13-2008, 12:09 AM
Looks like the Packers got their mojo back.

TitleTown088
10-13-2008, 10:16 AM
Well Pickett got hurt and is heading in for a MRI. That would be devastating if he misses any time. Can the bye get here soon enough?

TitleTown088
10-13-2008, 10:26 AM
Greg Jennings, still atop the NFL.

rumfinator
10-13-2008, 11:23 AM
So when do the Packers have to make a decision on Justin Harrell. I know he is on the PUP, but when do they have to activate him or lose him for the season?

EvilMonkey
10-13-2008, 11:28 AM
So when do the Packers have to make a decision on Justin Harrell. I know he is on the PUP, but when do they have to activate him or lose him for the season?

per wikipedia.....

A player who begins the season on the PUP list must sit out his team's first six games. After that point, the player is allowed to practice with the team through Week 10 of the NFL season, and can be activated any time within that window. If the player is not activated by Week 10, he must stop practicing and is unavailable to be moved to the active roster for the remainder of the season.

TitleTown088
10-13-2008, 01:33 PM
Justin Harrell: Will follow same medical procedure as other players as comes off PUP this week. Full practice Wednesday. See how he responds during week. Hasn't practiced in so long, have to make sure he progresses. Won't rule out playing this week. Friday's evaluation will play into that. First step is to complete week of practice.


On Ryan Pickett: Had triceps strain. Probably questionable this week. Don't know how much practice time he'll be able to work through. Will re-evaluate on Wednesday.

Aaron Rouse: Doctors don't think he'll be held back because of head injury. Hopeful can practice on Wednesday.

Al Harris: Had a scan today, showed "signficant improvement." Will send results out for second opinions. Hard-pressed to go this week, but "I think after the bye is realistic."

Harris back after the bye? Harrell on the verge of finally getting back. Awesome news.

rumfinator
10-13-2008, 01:42 PM
Harris back after the bye? Harrell on the verge of finally getting back. Awesome news.

Even if Harris comes back, the Packers need to keep Tramon Williams in as much as possible. Maybe it is me, but has there been less pass interference calls the last couple weeks?

Yatta!
10-13-2008, 02:14 PM
What does everyone think to the rumours of a Tony Gonzalez trade? Personally I don't see the need and TT loves his draft picks but where there's smoke, there's fire.

TitleTown088
10-13-2008, 02:15 PM
What does everyone think to the rumours of a Tony Gonzalez trade? Personally I don't see the need and TT loves his draft picks but where there's smoke, there's fire.

Ted offered a 5th for moss, what do you think he's offering for Gonzo?

Sportsfan486
10-13-2008, 03:04 PM
What does everyone think to the rumours of a Tony Gonzalez trade? Personally I don't see the need and TT loves his draft picks but where there's smoke, there's fire.

Not really a need there as Donald Lee is a good TE. I think the reason he is not getting a lot of looks is because Rodgers has a really good feel for Jennings and Driver out there and, let's face it, Jennings has officially turned into a top-5 NFL WR and Driver is probably still in that top-20 range.

That said, it would still be an upgrade at the position and definitely worth a 4th round pick or less. Upside is it would bring us a slightly better TE and another crafty veteran receiver for Rodgers out there.

RockJock07
10-13-2008, 11:17 PM
Ted offered a 5th for moss, what do you think he's offering for Gonzo?

I think TT was thinking that the Chiefs need to stock-pile picks and said hey, I'll throw a 4th or 5th rounder at him and see if they bit. Didn't Tony just sign an extension?

TitleTown088
10-14-2008, 01:08 PM
Didn't Tony just sign an extension?
Yes, he salary increases significantly after this season I believe.

ChezPower4
10-14-2008, 04:14 PM
I think TT was thinking that the Chiefs need to stock-pile picks and said hey, I'll throw a 4th or 5th rounder at him and see if they bit. Didn't Tony just sign an extension?

I wouldn't mind getting him for a forth or 5th round pick.

TitleTown088
10-15-2008, 10:01 AM
What does everyone think to the rumours of a Tony Gonzalez trade? Personally I don't see the need and TT loves his draft picks but where there's smoke, there's fire.
Got that right...

A source familiar with negotiations told the Journal Sentinel that Chiefs President Carl Peterson ultimately decided to retain Gonzalez after turning down the best offer from Green Bay, which was a third-round selection. The source said Peterson wanted a second-rounder to make the deal.

Twiddler
10-15-2008, 01:11 PM
Got that right...

Wow, a third rounder. Seems a little aggressive for TT but I'm guessing that he was just thinking that the pick that we get from the Favre trade will be at least a third rounder so it would balance itself out.

Yatta!
10-15-2008, 01:15 PM
Wow, a third rounder. Seems a little aggressive for TT but I'm guessing that he was just thinking that the pick that we get from the Favre trade will be at least a third rounder so it would balance itself out.

Good point but still a surprising move by TT and an even bigger surprise that Kansas rejected it.

ChezPower4
10-15-2008, 02:41 PM
Good point but still a surprising move by TT and an even bigger surprise that Kansas rejected it.

Yea it seems like KC would have taken what they could have gotten for him. He's a really good player but getting up there in age and it's clear that KC is not looking to win now but building for the future and Tony is not going to be around much longer. They should have out of respect for what he's done for the team traded him like he wanted. But i just think...did we really need Tony?

TitleTown088
10-15-2008, 02:49 PM
Harrell, Harris, and James Jones practiced to some degree today.

On DT Justin Harrell: Full participant. Observed throughout individual. "I think he's in very good shape. We'll use the full week of practice to determine his status." Doesn't know specifics of how do in team periods. Let's go cupcake, the team needs ya.

On Bigby: Tested today, remains "close." Opened it up today. See how he feels Thursday. "He's a lot closer this week than he was last week."

ChezPower4
10-15-2008, 03:16 PM
Harrell, Harris, and James Jones practiced to some degree today.

Let's go cupcake, the team needs ya.

we've need his big A** for a while now, hope he comes in and plays well for us.

UK_Cheesehead
10-15-2008, 05:18 PM
What's goin on guys, names Andy!

Newbie to the NFL, been followin' it for 3 years, Packers were the first game I watched, they lost but I was hooked on them straight away. Just thought I'd let ya know that I'll hopefully (unfortunately for you haha :D) be around here for a while.

ChezPower4
10-15-2008, 05:28 PM
What's goin on guys, names Andy!

Newbie to the NFL, been followin' it for 3 years, Packers were the first game I watched, they lost but I was hooked on them straight away. Just thought I'd let ya know that I'll hopefully (unfortunately for you haha :D) be around here for a while.

Nice can never have enough packer fans, especialy in the UK, do you get a lot of the games over across the pond?

princefielder28
10-15-2008, 05:47 PM
What's goin on guys, names Andy!

Newbie to the NFL, been followin' it for 3 years, Packers were the first game I watched, they lost but I was hooked on them straight away. Just thought I'd let ya know that I'll hopefully (unfortunately for you haha :D) be around here for a while.

Welcome to the forum

TitleTown088
10-15-2008, 07:51 PM
It seems like a great deal of the British fans like the Packers.

Dr. Gonzo
10-15-2008, 08:51 PM
It seems like a great deal of the British fans like the Packers.

Lord Favre was and still probably is the most prolific player in the NFL. I would think the Packers have a lot of fans everywhere.

GB12
10-15-2008, 09:08 PM
I'm not really that upset about the trade not happening, but the Chiefs are freakin' crazy to think a third isn't enough. Gonzalez is a good player, but he's 32 years old. A second rounder is too much for a guy that has only a couple years left. Even if it did happen for just a third that'd be like trading Favre for Gonzalez.

TitleTown088
10-15-2008, 11:45 PM
Cheesus, that Gonzolas deal was REALLY close to being done.


Not only were the Packers serious players for Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez, but the Pack also thought they had a deal.

According to Jason Wilde of the Wisconsin State Journal, the Packers drew up the paperwork that would have sent a third-round pick to Kansas City for Gonzalez, only to have the Chiefs back out ten minutes before the 4:00 p.m. EDT trading deadline, and demand a second-round pick.

Goatboy1717
10-16-2008, 01:40 AM
Chiefs were being too greedy. A third round pick is good value for Gonzales. A second round pick for Gonzales is just crazy.

UK_Cheesehead
10-16-2008, 07:07 AM
Nice can never have enough packer fans, especialy in the UK, do you get a lot of the games over across the pond?

We get quite a bit of coverage.

Every Sunday on Sky Sports, we have 2 games @ 6pm, 2 games @ 9pm, and then the final game on Sunday at 1:30am, we also get the MNF game. Aswell as NFL Gameday, and NFL Total Access that's on most days. So yeah, it's quite surprising I think that we get so much coverage.

I'm hoping to get to Lambeau sometime next year, just depends on how much money I have.

I went to the Wembley game last year, a shame about the weather but just being there was amazing. Unfortunately didn't get tickets for this year's game.


re: Gonzo, I'm pleased we didn't give up a 2nd for him, IMO it's clearly too much to want for someone who I don't think will be around for a while. A 3rd would've been a good move for both sides if it had come off.


Also, a little off topic but I was just wondering if there's any highlights of the NCAA games on the internet or anythin'? Over here we don't get any coverage of the college stuff and it sucks when draft time comes because I don't really have a clue who's good lol, just have to rely on the "pro analyists" and just read reports. But a lot of the time with players I prefer to just watch them myself and form my own opinion.

Yatta!
10-16-2008, 11:22 AM
Also, a little off topic but I was just wondering if there's any highlights of the NCAA games on the internet or anythin'? Over here we don't get any coverage of the college stuff and it sucks when draft time comes because I don't really have a clue who's good lol, just have to rely on the "pro analyists" and just read reports. But a lot of the time with players I prefer to just watch them myself and form my own opinion.

You can find videos all over the internet, as I'm sure you know and that's mostly what I do. My mate has a program where you can watch all college games on demand - I think its run by ESPN or CBS but its specifically for international users. I'll ask him about it.

ChezPower4
10-16-2008, 01:00 PM
I'm not really that upset about the trade not happening, but the Chiefs are freakin' crazy to think a third isn't enough. Gonzalez is a good player, but he's 32 years old. A second rounder is too much for a guy that has only a couple years left. Even if it did happen for just a third that'd be like trading Favre for Gonzalez.

I agree i would have been upset if we had givin up a second round pick for Tony. He would have been a nice boost for our offense but it seems that Rodgers doesn't throw to the TE's as much as Brett did, so I have to wonder would the trade have been worth it for a 3rd rounder? Also it seems that Tony was someone TT wanted but IMO we don't really need him, our passing offense has been good so far this year.

TitleTown088
10-16-2008, 03:01 PM
WR James Jones (knee) almost certainly will miss Sunday's game because of recurring problems. Man, that sucks. I'm starting to worry about him getting back on the field soon. Good thing the bye is coming.

PackerLegend
10-16-2008, 04:19 PM
Ted must have known James was going to get hurt thats why he spent our first pick on Jordyzzzzz. which is a position we were stacked at...... Smart man

TitleTown088
10-16-2008, 04:24 PM
According to Adam Schefter of NFL Network, Law would be interested in joining the Packers or the Cowboys, both of which have injury problems at the cornerback position.
I really don't see Ted interested with Al supposedly being able to return after the bye. Although I would take him over Bush if the Packers had adequate safety depth right now.

EvilMonkey
10-16-2008, 04:49 PM
I really don't see Ted interested with Al supposedly being able to return after the bye. Although I would take him over Bush if the Packers had adequate safety depth right now.

yeah, at this point it's tough to know how much law has left in the tank. As a nickel or dime back, maybe. I guess we could afford a 1-year deal and yeah, I'm 100% for it if it gets Bush off the roster...

ChezPower4
10-16-2008, 05:29 PM
Ted must have known James was going to get hurt thats why he spent our first pick on Jordyzzzzz. which is a position we were stacked at...... Smart man

Not just that but Jordyzzzzzzzzz has been really playing well so far. I see him a lot more balls thrown his way this season. Nice pick TT

GB12
10-16-2008, 05:31 PM
yeah, at this point it's tough to know how much law has left in the tank. As a nickel or dime back, maybe. I guess we could afford a 1-year deal and yeah, I'm 100% for it if it gets Bush off the roster...
Only way I would take him is if Harris is out for the season and even then I'm not sure I want him.

the dude
10-16-2008, 06:00 PM
Not just that but Jordyzzzzzzzzz has been really playing well so far. I see him a lot more balls thrown his way this season. Nice pick TT

i agree, you can nevet have enough wr's and jordy has really impressed me so far. great routes, great hands and general awesomenezzzz

TitleTown088
10-19-2008, 11:41 AM
So If Jay Glazer is correct, I'd be really disappointed. To the extent that any doubt remained regarding the status of the relationship between the Packers and former quarterback Brett Favre, it’s now completely gone.

Per Jay Glazer of FOX, Favre spent 60-to-90 minutes before the Week Two game between the Lions and the Packers educating the Detroit coaching staff regarding the Packers’ offensive strategies.

Did we say wow?

Glazer says that Favre initially called former CEO Matt Millen, who then put Favre in touch with the coaches.

Goatboy1717
10-19-2008, 11:44 AM
I saw that on the pregame show and I still dont know what to say. He is killing his legacy.

Yatta!
10-19-2008, 12:25 PM
I'm calling BS. Surely he has more class than that, he knows what a legend he is in Green Bay.

Boston
10-20-2008, 12:14 AM
Nick Collins has just been dominant lately. He's been playing out of his mind. Getting Harrell back should be a boost for the run defense, and maybe than the defensive unit as whole can start playing the way we had envisioned. I'm still bummed about the fact that we lost Jenkins for the year though... :(

GB12
10-20-2008, 12:20 AM
Nick Collins has just been dominant lately. He's been playing out of his mind. Getting Harrell back should be a boost for the run defense, and maybe than the defensive unit as whole can start playing the way we had envisioned. I'm still bummed about the fact that we lost Jenkins for the year though... :(Isn't Bigby supposed to be back after the bye too? That'll be huge.

And yes Jenkins out sucks a lot.

Sniper
10-20-2008, 12:28 AM
Soooooooo I have a question.

What's it like to be blessed with Charles Woodson (Praised Be His Name) on your team every game? I haven't felt it since '97, and I'm afraid I've lost that loving feeling. Do you marvel at his ability to turn a receiver into dust? Have you ever witnessed him walk on water? When's the last time he died and came back a couple days later for you? etc..talk about the greatness of Woodson, I wish he was still on Michigan's squad.

Goatboy1717
10-20-2008, 12:40 AM
Isn't Bigby supposed to be back after the bye too? That'll be huge.

And yes Jenkins out sucks a lot.

Our defense is going to be dominant after the bye. Bigby, Harris, and Harrell are all coming back. Hopefully Harrell can finally play like a first round pick. We really need him.

TitleTown088
10-20-2008, 08:00 AM
Woodson is dank, we all know it Sniper.


Jeremy Thompson has a few nice plays out there, but he's sure as hell no Cullen Jenkins. Just imagine if he were coming back after the bye... Him and Harrell would do wonders for the run defense.

bigboiajhawk
10-20-2008, 10:56 AM
It will be nice to have Harrell back for the Tennessee game, all they can do is run. It will add much needed depth, however, Harrell's impact this year, will be dependent on if Collin Cole keeps playing like he is right now. I have to say Cole has been impressive these last two weeks, and he has to be one the most underated players on the Packers this season.

umphrey
10-20-2008, 11:21 AM
I really don't know what's wrong with our run defense. Maybe our DTs are just getting tired. I also saw a lot of missed assignments and mental errors earlier in the year.

I'm plugging Nick Collins for pro bowl every opportunity I get from now on.

Sportsfan486
10-20-2008, 03:26 PM
Few things.

A) How good is our pass defense? Wow. The run completely destroys us but our secondary has played extremely well for most the year.

B) Rodgers is awesome. Hurrah Rodgers!

C) Ryan Grant STILL sucks. He had a wide open hole on that TD run. He ended with a 3 something average against a horrible run D. He doesn't seem to be turning this around.

D) I'm not terribly scared of the Titans. I guess I should be, maybe, but with Kerry friggin' Collins at QB it's difficult.

TitleTown088
10-20-2008, 05:13 PM
D) I'm not terribly scared of the Titans. I guess I should be, maybe, but with Kerry friggin' Collins at QB it's difficult.
They may be able to start Rex Grossman back there and win there if the packers run defense dosen't improve.

Yatta!
10-20-2008, 05:17 PM
They may be able to start Rex Grossman back there and win there if the packers run defense dosen't improve.

Exactly. I think the Titans match up very well against us.

tjsunstein
10-20-2008, 05:55 PM
The Titans game will be interesting, we need our D-Line back and performing well or we're gonna have a frustrating day.

Sportsfan486
10-20-2008, 06:07 PM
They may be able to start Rex Grossman back there and win there if the packers run defense dosen't improve.

Haha, you may have a point.

*edit* Also, I'm so concerned about our running game right now. I like that we're trying to feed the ball to Grant and get this thing going but he's just not stepping up. I know he had 100 yards and a TD this week but he had 30+ carries.

I hope Rodgers steps up and starts performing in clutch situations.. but.. let's face it, to this point he's flopped in the clutch. One of those was probably due to a shoulder injury, true, but it's still something to consider.

PackerLegend
10-20-2008, 11:06 PM
Haha, you may have a point.

*edit* Also, I'm so concerned about our running game right now. I like that we're trying to feed the ball to Grant and get this thing going but he's just not stepping up. I know he had 100 yards and a TD this week but he had 30+ carries.

I hope Rodgers steps up and starts performing in clutch situations.. but.. let's face it, to this point he's flopped in the clutch. One of those was probably due to a shoulder injury, true, but it's still something to consider.

Rodgers hasn't really flopped in a clutch situation. Hes played great every week. We came back in Tampa (blindsided by an unblocked DE gets picked, thats his fault?) and Atlanta defense couldn't stop them and that called back FG hurt (Finely supposedly holding). Dallas there was no clutch time. Hes been over 100 QB rating almost every week and has been about as good as you can ask for.

Goatboy1717
10-20-2008, 11:09 PM
http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/10/20/reporter-stands-by-favre-lions-story-quot-1-000-quot.aspx

Glazer standing by his Favre story "1000%". If its true then I lost a lot of respect for Favre.

ChezPower4
10-21-2008, 12:58 PM
Rodgers hasn't really flopped in a clutch situation. Hes played great every week. We came back in Tampa (blindsided by an unblocked DE gets picked, thats his fault?) and Atlanta defense couldn't stop them and that called back FG hurt (Finely supposedly holding). Dallas there was no clutch time. Hes been over 100 QB rating almost every week and has been about as good as you can ask for.

Not to mention the last three weeks Rodgers has not practiced very much at all and has played great for us on Sundays. I love the way that Rodgers is playing this year. I was worried how Aaron would handle the injuries and he's done an awesome with playing with his injury.

jackalope
10-21-2008, 04:10 PM
http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archive/2008/10/20/reporter-stands-by-favre-lions-story-quot-1-000-quot.aspx

Glazer standing by his Favre story "1000%". If its true then I lost a lot of respect for Favre.

I believe Glazer on this. Favre has given no reason for us to trust him.

princefielder28
10-21-2008, 05:32 PM
I believe Glazer on this. Favre has given no reason for us to trust him.

Honestly? A journalist is gonna trust his sources and isn't gonna throw them under the bus if it is false and he'll stay by his story because it won't hurt his credibility as much as it could hurt Favre's. I'm not saying Glazer is a dirty reporter but just cause a person says something doesn't mean it's true; give me evidence and we'll talk.

PackerLegend
10-21-2008, 06:28 PM
Glazer broke this what 7 weeks after the fact... why? To make sure it was true. Lions coaches refuse to deny its true... why? Because it is. I could careless either way because it couldnt really be anything to help other teams much. I think its funny actually.

jackalope
10-21-2008, 06:44 PM
Honestly? A journalist is gonna trust his sources and isn't gonna throw them under the bus if it is false and he'll stay by his story because it won't hurt his credibility as much as it could hurt Favre's. I'm not saying Glazer is a dirty reporter but just cause a person says something doesn't mean it's true; give me evidence and we'll talk.

I'm not saying it is true, but frankly, I trust Glazer more than Favre on this. With everything that's happened this offseason, I wouldn't put this past Favre.

Twiddler
10-21-2008, 06:49 PM
Glazer broke this what 7 weeks after the fact... why? To make sure it was true. Lions coaches refuse to deny its true... why? Because it is. I could careless either way because it couldnt really be anything to help other teams much. I think its funny actually.

We can't say for sure whether or not it is true at this point. But that doesn't mean that certain things can't lead us to assessing the odds that it is true.

Personally, I think that Glazer has been pretty good with information in the past (at least from what I've seen) and that there have been times in the past year where Favre completely denied early reports that later turned out to be true. So I guess I lean towards it being true, but I'm still wary.

someone447
10-21-2008, 08:33 PM
We can't say for sure whether or not it is true at this point. But that doesn't mean that certain things can't lead us to assessing the odds that it is true.

Personally, I think that Glazer has been pretty good with information in the past (at least from what I've seen) and that there have been times in the past year where Favre completely denied early reports that later turned out to be true. So I guess I lean towards it being true, but I'm still wary.

I still consider Favre retired, anything that happens/ has happened since March of this year doesn't count towards his career.

Favre played from 91-08 playoffs.

bearsfan_51
10-21-2008, 09:05 PM
I still consider Favre retired, anything that happens/ has happened since March of this year doesn't count towards his career.

Favre played from 91-08 playoffs.
http://www.paulandrewsports.com/96-Brett_Favre_Jets_Football_sff_standalone_prod_affi liate_101.jpg

mqtirishfan
10-21-2008, 09:38 PM
I don't give a ****, personally. I love the Packers, I love Favre. If they don't love each other, it doesn't bother me.

TitleTown088
10-21-2008, 11:14 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=808718

harris cleared to play vs Tenn. A very nice.

Twiddler
10-21-2008, 11:23 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=808718

harris cleared to play vs Tenn. A very nice.

Good to see. I'm curious to see how he'll be used with Tramon's recent success and Al's likely rustiness.

Yatta!
10-22-2008, 03:18 AM
Good to see. I'm curious to see how he'll be used with Tramon's recent success and Al's likely rustiness.

With the extra week of practice I would expect Al to go straight back into the starting lineup. Williams has really impressed me though, his play has altered my thoughts on our first couple of picks.

ChezPower4
10-22-2008, 04:28 PM
can't see why Harris wouldn't start but that is a much needed boost for our secondary, hopfully Bigby will be able to go for the Titans game. It seems that he's been close the last couple of weeks but hasn't been able to go in the last few games.

tjsunstein
10-22-2008, 04:37 PM
The bye week cannot come at a better time for this club. We have arguably our toughest matchup on our schedule following our bye. I like what McCarthy is doing by giving the team off until next Monday. Keeps everyone fresh for our most physical game coming up and gives the injured guys time to rehab without missing any more reps. I'm really looking forward to this game and I hope our run D holds up.

TitleTown088
10-23-2008, 03:32 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3657276

Apparently the Packers are good now and Rodgers is headed to the probowl. I'm very reassured since it's coming from Lil' Wayne.

Twiddler
10-23-2008, 05:10 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3657276

Apparently the Packers are good now and Rodgers is headed to the probowl. I'm very reassured since it's coming from Lil' Wayne.

Yep, I'm sold. I guess that means I don't have to watch the Packers for awhile, I'll see you guys in February...

GB12
10-23-2008, 05:39 PM
Well the guys at EA were impressed with our secondary play.

CB Tramon Williams – Packers – 78 to 81 – Showed he is a legitimate corner in the league by doing an excellent job on whatever Colts receiver he was on in week 7, mostly Anthony Gonzalez.
CB Will Blackmon – Packers – 73 to 77 – Along with Williams stepped up in the secondary vs. the Colts. Basically an athlete coming out of college has developed into a nickel/dime corner.
CB Charles Woodson – Packers – 92 to 93 – With the exception of losing his footing too often, has maybe displayed better instincts than any corner on his INT’s. There won’t be a better free safety if he ever makes the transition.
FS Nick Collins – Packers – 87 to 88 – Returned a gift wrapped pick for another TD Sunday vs. the Colts. Is around the ball more which could not be said about him in previous years.



The interesting part about it is that they brought up Woodson to safety again, something we haven't heard in a while. There was talk about him doing that when he was a free agent and that's why he chose us over Tampa. Well that worked out pretty well, but when he does lose his speed a bit that brings up an interesting situation. With Nick Collins breaking out we don't have a need at free safety anymore like we did in the past. However Woodson would be an awesome FS, he'd get so many picks.

tjsunstein
10-23-2008, 06:52 PM
Woodson at safety was an awesome idea like 2 years ago when we had a need there but now we dont and hes still an awesome corner. I wouldnt mind certain packages with Woodson at safety but having him as an every down safety wouldnt be suitable for him, he isnt exactly the most sure open field tackler.

johbur
10-24-2008, 08:55 PM
With the defense getting healthy, I am anticipating us being competitive for the NFC Title. What's with SuperHomer Scott putting the Packers at #15 and the Vikings at #22? Vikes have either Tavaris or Gus at QB. End of line. The Packers already spanked those punks and get to chew em up again. Bears are going to be a tough out, as Orton isn't mistake-prone, but I remember watching all those rookie RBs hit the wall last year, so their run game likely won't be improving, unlike the Packers run game which will be improving given the O-line getting healthier and deeper.

PACKmanN
10-24-2008, 10:56 PM
let Scott have this, because I think it will be the only way he will ever see the Vikings picking in the 20's let alone 22.

But if we do pick 15, i will take Hardy :)

TitleTown088
10-25-2008, 03:30 AM
Woodson at safety was an awesome idea like 2 years ago when we had a need there but now we dont and hes still an awesome corner. I wouldnt mind certain packages with Woodson at safety but having him as an every down safety wouldnt be suitable for him, he isnt exactly the most sure open field tackler.

Woods shoudn't play safey at all. Right now he's the best corner in the game which is a more important position, especially in the Packers scheme.

GB12
10-25-2008, 12:26 PM
Well of course, but talking about down the road. Maybe in a couple years where he doesn't have the speed to play corner anymore.

EvilMonkey
10-25-2008, 01:09 PM
Woods shoudn't play safey at all. Right now he's the best corner in the game which is a more important position, especially in the Packers scheme.

ehh, Nnamdi has been just ridiculous this year and is probably the best, but Woodie is definitely way up there.

PackerLegend
10-26-2008, 11:34 AM
So when is the Jolly thing coming up? Its soon I think, really hope he isnt suspended.

Goatboy1717
10-26-2008, 11:43 AM
So when is the Jolly thing coming up? Its soon I think, really hope he isnt suspended.

Not sure. Him being suspended would really hurt.

GB12
10-26-2008, 12:44 PM
I can't stand most Favre-Rodgers comparisons, but I was looking at some stats and decided to get their numbers through week 8

Favre 2007 Packers............ Aaron Rodgers 2008 Packers
2046 yards........................1668 yards
11 TDs..............................12 TDs
6 INTs...............................4 Ints
66% completion...................64.3%
12 sacks............................13 sacks
94.0 avg QB rating...............99.1 avg QB rating

Other than yards they are very similar stats.


*note for QB ratings I just averaged them out because I didn't want to do the formula to get Favre's

UK_Cheesehead
10-26-2008, 06:44 PM
Very interesting, thanks GB12.

What's the general feeling regarding what went down over the summer with Favre?

Personally, at the time, I thought it was the right thing to do, and now it looks even more so like the right thing to have done.

Favre will always be a legend, but there comes a time when you have to move on, and Rodgers was clearly going to be the future, when Brett retired and we say Rodgers is our guy, I don't think we can then go back on that when Brett wants to come back and say to Rodgers, "just hang on another few years" because that shows no confidence in the guy at all.

It was sad how it all went down, but ultimately I'm delighted with Rodgers under center and feel very confident going into every game.

Twiddler
10-26-2008, 07:21 PM
Very interesting, thanks GB12.

What's the general feeling regarding what went down over the summer with Favre?

Personally, at the time, I thought it was the right thing to do, and now it looks even more so like the right thing to have done.

Favre will always be a legend, but there comes a time when you have to move on, and Rodgers was clearly going to be the future, when Brett retired and we say Rodgers is our guy, I don't think we can then go back on that when Brett wants to come back and say to Rodgers, "just hang on another few years" because that shows no confidence in the guy at all.

It was sad how it all went down, but ultimately I'm delighted with Rodgers under center and feel very confident going into every game.

I think this is how most people on here feel about this, at least that's how I do. We had to move on, and as much as some people would have liked to have had Favre at QB until he croaked, its starting to look like this was the right decision.

tjsunstein
10-26-2008, 10:19 PM
One week until the Titans..

Do they stay undefeated until next week or do the Colts do them in?

PackerLegend
10-26-2008, 11:00 PM
One week until the Titans..

Do they stay undefeated until next week or do the Colts do them in?

Im still not sold on the Titans but we will see.

Sad news Andre Johnson has passed Jennings as rec yards leader. Johnson has like 770 and Jennings 680.... Roddy and others have closed the gap as well.

Goatboy1717
10-27-2008, 02:21 AM
Im still not sold on the Titans but we will see.

Sad news Andre Johnson has passed Jennings as rec yards leader. Johnson has like 770 and Jennings 680.... Roddy and others have closed the gap as well.

The gap was severely closed. If Roddy would have caught one more pass today, he would have most likely passed him. Its going to be hard to pass Andre Johnson. He is averaging over 100 yards a game.

umphrey
10-27-2008, 11:01 AM
The gap was severely closed. If Roddy would have caught one more pass today, he would have most likely passed him. Its going to be hard to pass Andre Johnson. He is averaging over 100 yards a game.

Well I'm definitely not hoping for it because I love AJ but he gets hurt a lot. Also the Texans can meltdown at any moment. On the other hand I think Jennings is seeing more attention than he's used to lately. Could be wrong but I think other teams always looked at Driver as the #1 up until the Colts game.

I hate the new layout of JSOnline. All I look at is sports, mostly the blogs, and they are harder to navigate to.

umphrey
10-27-2008, 01:18 PM
So I'm thinking we have a decent chance at upsetting the Titans next week. The Colts have a must win so they should fight them pretty hard, then the Titans have short rest while we come off our bye week pretty healthy for the first time in awhile. The Titans aren't going 16-0, so this wouldn't be a bad week to pick a loss for them.

On the other hand, the unit match ups don't look good for us. We might have to turn it into a shoot out.

It's worth noting that it was around this time last year when we played the Vikings and their top ranked run D built around the DTs and we had no running game, Grant broke out and ran all over them. Well same thing now, no running game for us and they have a top ranked run D built around Haynesworth. Lets hope history repeats.

PACKmanN
10-27-2008, 01:45 PM
So I'm thinking we have a decent chance at upsetting the Titans next week. The Colts have a must win so they should fight them pretty hard, then the Titans have short rest while we come off our bye week pretty healthy for the first time in awhile. The Titans aren't going 16-0, so this wouldn't be a bad week to pick a loss for them.

On the other hand, the unit match ups don't look good for us. We might have to turn it into a shoot out.

It's worth noting that it was around this time last year when we played the Vikings and their top ranked run D built around the DTs and we had no running game, Grant broke out and ran all over them. Well same thing now, no running game for us and they have a top ranked run D built around Haynesworth. Lets hope history repeats.

I think if we come into the game with the same gameplan we had vs. the Vikings I think we can win. They are pretty similar.

tjsunstein
10-27-2008, 04:03 PM
I think if we beat the Titans (assuming they are still undefeated), Aaron Rodgers will have risen above the Favre story and into becoming his own. He has to take that next step until being known as Aaron Rodgers, not Brett Favre's replacement.

Sportsfan486
10-28-2008, 02:57 AM
I think if we beat the Titans (assuming they are still undefeated), Aaron Rodgers will have risen above the Favre story and into becoming his own. He has to take that next step until being known as Aaron Rodgers, not Brett Favre's replacement.

Also doesn't hurt that Favre has thrown 11 interceptions (well on my way to a prediction of 20+) and his team looks very mediocre and has really won in SPITE of him (plus he threw away the Raiders game.)

Titans are still undefeated. Beat down on the Colts. I have no idea what to think of this game.. we're basically a better version of the Colts (bad run D, not great run O, pass-oriented O.) Our defense is obviously quite better than the Colts overall, though, and our offense is definitely better as well. Should be interesting. I love our D against Collins and think if we can just load up the box and stop the run even minimal secondary will get takeaways.

That defense should completely stop our running game and force us to rely on Rodgers.

I see a low-scoring game, honestly. Should be interesting and would be a huge boost for our team.

tjsunstein
10-28-2008, 08:04 AM
For some reason I see a high scoring bout. Maybe 30 something to 20 something. 34-28 seems around there. Titans have a chance at a two minute offense to come back and win but cant get it done through the air. My bold prediction.

Yatta!
10-28-2008, 09:52 AM
I'm really not as confident as some of you guys. I think they match up really well against us but it could all depend on our injuries.