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roughrider30
01-05-2011, 04:21 PM
Walden was named NFC Defensive player of the week.

http://blog.packers.com/2011/01/05/walden-named-nfc-defensive-player-of-the-week/

Not bad for a guy who was looking for a team in the middle of the season

cvv84
01-05-2011, 04:27 PM
Packers signed LS Brett Goode to a two-year, $1.6 million extension through 2012.


I like our approach so far in getting our free agents locked up.

GB12
01-05-2011, 04:43 PM
by inconsistent I mean that he has flashes of brilliance, and the skill is obviously there, but for whatever reason the dude seems to have trouble with drops and fumbles, and is lazy when it comes to jumpballs. I wasn't talking about yardage/td productionJones has three fumbles this year. It's not like he has some crazy number where he fumbles all the time. That's more than you'd like, but it's not something to be overly concerned about. Jordy Nelson also has 3 this year, and you never hear anything said about him, Greg Jennings has two this year and Driver has one. The fact that he had the one to lose the Bears game is what's sticking in people's minds, making it seem like a bigger problem than it is. In 2008 and 2009 he didn't have a single fumble either, so it's not like it's always a problem with him. As for drops, I don't have the stats for that, but I bet Jennings and Driver are close or even have more than he does.

I know what you mean already, it doesn't make a difference.
Alright, so why bring it up. It doesn't matter.

PACKmanN
01-05-2011, 06:20 PM
Jones has three fumbles this year. It's not like he has some crazy number where he fumbles all the time. That's more than you'd like, but it's not something to be overly concerned about. Jordy Nelson also has 3 this year, and you never hear anything said about him, Greg Jennings has two this year and Driver has one. The fact that he had the one to lose the Bears game is what's sticking in people's minds, making it seem like a bigger problem than it is. In 2008 and 2009 he didn't have a single fumble either, so it's not like it's always a problem with him. As for drops, I don't have the stats for that, but I bet Jennings and Driver are close or even have more than he does.


Alright, so why bring it up. It doesn't matter.
I remember 2 fumbles in the Bears game in 09; I have a problem with his hands when the weather turns cold. He could be a very good wideout for a team that plays somewhere warm and he doesn't have to worry about catching wet balls.

cvv84
01-05-2011, 06:40 PM
Alright, so why bring it up. It doesn't matter.

Being healthy doesn't matter? Keep repeating yourself.

J-Mike88
01-05-2011, 06:55 PM
I remember 2 fumbles in the Bears game in 09; I have a problem with his hands when the weather turns cold. He could be a very good wideout for a team that plays somewhere warm and he doesn't have to worry about catching wet balls.
Jones fumbled 2 times in the 07 season, at home, vs the Bears in October on primetime, both in the first half, back to back possessions in the red zone.

It kept the score from being about 35-7 to only like 21-10 or something, and then we lost in the 2nd half. One of our 3 losses that season.

I like him, but he's had bad moments in Bears games since entering the league. More evidence of the Bears luck. (No really, they teach a special way of stripping the football that no other team does).

GB12
01-05-2011, 07:11 PM
I remember 2 fumbles in the Bears game in 09; I have a problem with his hands when the weather turns cold. He could be a very good wideout for a team that plays somewhere warm and he doesn't have to worry about catching wet balls.That was 2007, his rookie year, the first week of October. Every WR is going to fumble sometimes. Jones had has two seasons with three and two with none. Jordy Nelson has 3 fumbles each of the past two years no one ever brings up his fumbling problems. Jones' might fumble slightly more than the average WR, but it's not that much of a difference.

According to this (http://hosted.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFC&type=Receiving&rank=232&year=) he had 6 dropped passes, which tied for 24th in the NFL. As I thought, Donald Driver is ahead of him with 7. No one ever gets on Driver for his hands. And I'll definitely put up with 6 drops for the 50 that he caught. Look at the other players on those lists, a lot of notable names. You don't part with a receiver because of a few drops. I don't buy the whole he can't play in cold weather argument either. I couldn't find any stats that break down the drops by each game, but I doubt there's much of a difference between warm and cold.

Both announcers and JSOnline have gotten on him for him being inconsistent, and I do think that's the reason some fans are now thinking that too, but there's not a whole lot to back that up.

Honestly it's completely ridiculous to not care if he's back or not. The only reason he wouldn't be back is if his price gets way too high. Other teams are going to see his value and there will be plenty of suitors. Unless his market price is extremely unreasonable he needs to be brought back.

Being healthy doesn't matter? Keep repeating yourself.No, their past injury history doesn't matter. Going forward Hawk is just as likely to have a season ending injury as Barnett is. I've already explained that. I shouldn't have to keep repeating myself, but apparently I do.

bigboiajhawk
01-05-2011, 08:18 PM
Gotta have Jones back next year, love the guy. Guaranteed he would flourish as a number one in a lot of offenses. Same with Kuhn, gotta keep him. TT could probably afford to get rid of Korey Hall, I like him, but he is hurt quite a bit, and he is not nearly as dynamic as Kuhn or as massive as Quinn.

Cullen Jenkins is a beast but I am just not sure if TT keeps him, I hope he does but I feel that with Neal coming back and Wilson getting some reps and maybe adding another young guy in the draft, the Pack could probably go without Cullen.

I really hope Johnny Jolly has kept himself in shape, I would like to see the Pack give him a second chance. I think a year away from football should be enough to keep him from drinkin that purple drank....I hope... I think an in shape Jolly would make a lot of people forget about Cullen.

PACKmanN
01-05-2011, 10:09 PM
I wouldn't dump Cullen for a 50/50 Jolly, Neal, and Wilson. Cullen was our best d-linemen before the injury. Raji stepped up, but there is no replace Cullen.

Boston
01-05-2011, 11:34 PM
I wouldn't dump Cullen for a 50/50 Jolly, Neal, and Wilson. Cullen was our best d-linemen before the injury. Raji stepped up, but there is no replace Cullen.

Raji has grown into his potential, which is much more then simply "stepping up."

BloodBrother
01-06-2011, 12:51 AM
Both announcers and JSOnline have gotten on him for him being inconsistent, and I do think that's the reason some fans are now thinking that too, but there's not a whole lot to back that up.

Honestly it's completely ridiculous to not care if he's back or not. The only reason he wouldn't be back is if his price gets way too high. Other teams are going to see his value and there will be plenty of suitors. Unless his market price is extremely unreasonable he needs to be brought back.



I'm not basing my thoughts based on JSOnline, etc. Something about Jones just doesn't sit right with me. He obviously has the talent but it's like he doesn't show up on certain plays, etc, as if he's not giving 100%. I assume with a bigger role(replacing DD) he could step up and blossom. As far as letting him go or bring him back, I'm more apathetic to it. Obviously, if he agrees to return on a very reasonable deal, I'd be for it. I just think he's probably the 5th or 6th priority as far as impending FA's go on this club. They already locked up the top priority in Tramon. JEnkins would be next. I don't expect them to bring Bigby or Colledge back. I think they will re-sign Jackson to

J-Mike88
01-06-2011, 08:48 AM
I'm old enough to remember Sterling Sharpe and his whole Packer career.
He had a bad problem with drops early in his career.
But because he was the starter and the #1-guy, and a great receiver, he got a ton of balls and put up big numbers... and eventually cut down on his drops.

Gruden and some others compared Jones to Sharpe when we drafted him.

I hope, and believe, that if Jones were to get more passes his way, he'd cut down on his drops..... actually his drops aren't that much of a problem to me. It's the 3 huge fumbles in Bears games that have killed us. Two games. That's concentration, as Tiki Barber and Adrian Peterson showed. They learned to cut down on their cough ups.

Jones still refuses to carry the ball in the correct arm.

cvv84
01-06-2011, 05:01 PM
No, their past injury history doesn't matter. Going forward Hawk is just as likely to have a season ending injury as Barnett is. I've already explained that. I shouldn't have to keep repeating myself, but apparently I do.

Maybe to you. I don't care if they're fluke injuries or whatever. Injuries are injuries.

Boston
01-06-2011, 07:47 PM
Maybe to you. I don't care if they're fluke injuries or whatever. Injuries are injuries.

You're not understanding this concept at all are you...you're evaluating a players present talent based upon his past injuries, ones which we have already established as being irrelevant going forward.

J-Mike88
01-06-2011, 10:54 PM
I can't interpret the argument you guys are having there back and forth, but I have to say some guys just for some reason, seem to get hurt a lot, while some guys, like Emmitt Smith, Marcus Allen, AJ Hawk, Kevin Williams, somehow seem to avoid injuries.

Will Blackmon, Atari Bigby, Cullen Jenkins.... those guys always are hurt one way or another. Nick Barnett has been too the past 3 years.

Now, it must be pointed out that Charles Woodson was as injury-prone as anyone when the Raiders let him leave in 2006, and I feel we have been A) luck as hell with him staying available and B) fans have totally taken that fact for granted.

So Charles has shown that a once-injury prone guy can turn it around and stay healthier, even as he's gotten old.
But that's pretty rare, and so is Charles as a talent.

Sportsfan486
01-06-2011, 11:38 PM
It's 90% luck. Barring guys who keep reinjuring the same way, it's kind of just luck of the draw. Obviously certain positions put certain areas of the body in more risk, but player to player it's mainly who lucks out.

Zycho32
01-07-2011, 03:48 AM
But seriously, which 2 out of the 3 in question are the most talented?

Morton
01-07-2011, 10:36 AM
I think that proper technique is a non-trivial factor influencing whether guys are injury-prone or not.

I've watched some linebackers play sloppy and take poor angles, which led to concussions or sprains or dislocated shoulders. They're otherwise solid players, but for whatever reason, they take risky angles during tackles.

Some players just have a knack, or an instinct, for taking exactly the right angle during a tackle (LB) or during a run (RB) to minimize the stress on the body. AJ Hawk is probably one of those guys.

J-Mike88
01-07-2011, 09:00 PM
Wow, very sad... the Lions and Vikings boards have had more and recent discussion today than we have.
Draft > Playoffs?

Anyway, here's McCarthy's press conference from today. I like what he's saying, to be honest. I hope it has an effect.

http://packersinsider.com/?p=2895

Sportsfan486
01-07-2011, 09:03 PM
Wow, very sad... the Lions and Vikings boards have had more and recent discussion today than we have.
Draft > Playoffs?

Anyway, here's McCarthy's press conference from today. I like what he's saying, to be honest. I hope it has an effect.

http://packersinsider.com/?p=2895

Not much else to talk about. Time for us to put up or shut up. :( RODGERS PLZ DON'T BE ONE OF THOSE QBS WHO DOESN'T WIN PLAYOFF GAMES.

J-Mike88
01-07-2011, 09:31 PM
Mike McCarthy:

"Yes, we elected our playoff captains. It’s a tradition here in Green Bay. On offense, Aaron Rodgers and Greg Jennings were elected. This is clearly from the other players in the locker room. On defense, it’s Charles Woodson and A.J. Hawk, and on special teams Mason Crosby and Jarrett Bush.

I think it’s a tremendous honor. I know for A.J. and Greg Jennings and Jarrett Bush, this is their first time. They will wear the ‘C’ in the Philadelphia Eagles game, and they will also participate in the coin toss. We have the tradition of having weekly captains, but this is something that’s voted on by the team, and it shows a lot of respect and I know every individual is proud of it."

BloodBrother
01-08-2011, 02:06 AM
Bush has definitely improved over the years. Probably won't become a solid CB, but he has really been great on ST.

Sportsfan486
01-08-2011, 02:11 AM
Bush has definitely improved over the years. Probably won't become a solid CB, but he has really been great on ST.

I threw up a little bit. He has become a great gunner, though.

jsa230
01-08-2011, 02:19 AM
i used to hate bush much more than i do now. I mean all the blown coverages/screw ups are hard to forget but the mistakes havent happened as much this season. Its nice to know Bush has the respect of his peers, but im s0o glad we found shields.

cvv84
01-08-2011, 09:16 AM
You're not understanding this concept at all are you...you're evaluating a players present talent based upon his past injuries, ones which we have already established as being irrelevant going forward.

No, I actually know what he's saying and I don't agree with him. Do you not understand that concept either?

Bush has definitely improved over the years. Probably won't become a solid CB, but he has really been great on ST.

Amazing what happens when you leave a player at one position. Lets hope they keep that going with the offensive line.

J-Mike88
01-08-2011, 01:25 PM
No, I actually know what he's saying and I don't agree with him. Do you not understand that concept either?

Amazing what happens when you leave a player at one position. Lets hope they keep that going with the offensive line.
I just hope Bulaga proves me wrong, and turns into a good or great NFL offensive lineman, and stops killing us too often this season.

He killed us in the Redskins game, and tried to kill us last week vs the Bears.
And he messed up on the final drive at New England. Not the last play that Flynn was sacked on by BB's guy -that wasn't BB's fault-, but the one on 1st down of that drive that set us back fatally.

Favre4ever
01-08-2011, 09:51 PM
I just hope Bulaga proves me wrong, and turns into a good or great NFL offensive lineman, and stops killing us too often this season.

He killed us in the Redskins game, and tried to kill us last week vs the Bears.
And he messed up on the final drive at New England. Not the last play that Flynn was sacked on by BB's guy -that wasn't BB's fault-, but the one on 1st down of that drive that set us back fatally.

Bulaga is a LT, we cannot blame him for everything. Hes learning to play RT and shortcomings are to be expected. Remember when we tried Colledge at tackle? It was a disaster. Not eveybody can make a switch and be succesful. Bulaga is very young, and hes doing a good job, a little patience please.

bigboiajhawk
01-08-2011, 10:23 PM
Bulaga is a LT, we cannot blame him for everything. Hes learning to play RT and shortcomings are to be expected. Remember when we tried Colledge at tackle? It was a disaster. Not eveybody can make a switch and be succesful. Bulaga is very young, and hes doing a good job, a little patience please.

Well Put...The guy is only 21 years old. He has a bright future as an LT for the Pack.

All we need is a guy like Carimi to play RT or LG and move Lang to RT and we have just secured our OL for a long time.

BloodBrother
01-08-2011, 10:35 PM
Bulaga was playing well for much of the season, but seems to have hit the "rookie wall" I'm not worried about him. He's also playing out of position, and I wish the Packers would STOP moving guys around on the OL

RyanBraun8
01-10-2011, 12:06 AM
Little early does anyone think packers should really make a strong play for Aso? He is agruably the most shut down corner in the leage(only 33 targets 13 rec for 205 yards 0 Tds in 10') You put him opposite of a shutdown Williams and let Woodson be Woodson and play everywhere. Sheilds is great depth a would give Packers possibly the best or at least top 5 DB core. Woodson could also move up to SS if need be. Since hearing about the void this has been on my mind. Who would people attack? This would also allow more time for the front 6 or 7 to cause a QB hell.

The question is he worth the money and if TT would even make an attempt but man that would be scary! Aso, Woodson, Williams, Collins, Sheilds, Burnett

BloodBrother
01-10-2011, 12:15 AM
he is worth th emoney, but I doubt the Pack sign him. They'll be lookin to lock up Jenkins, probably Jackson as well. Say what you want about his running, he's excellent on 3rd downs and is a great blocker. A solid backup.

roughrider30
01-10-2011, 12:43 AM
he is worth th emoney, but I doubt the Pack sign him. They'll be lookin to lock up Jenkins, probably Jackson as well. Say what you want about his running, he's excellent on 3rd downs and is a great blocker. A solid backup.

Agree about Jackson. I think he would had an excellent year behind Grant this year as a 3rd down back. He showed he couldn't be a starting back, but I like him a lot in a role behind a #1.

That screen TD was ran beautifully.

Sportsfan486
01-10-2011, 01:05 AM
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Agree about Jackson. I think he would had an excellent year behind Grant this year as a 3rd down back. He showed he couldn't be a starting back, but I like him a lot in a role behind a #1.

That screen TD was ran beautifully.

But realistically will they keep Grant, Starks, Jackson, Kuhn?

BloodBrother
01-10-2011, 03:06 AM
Well, Kuhn is a FB, so they could keep all of them.

RyanBraun8
01-10-2011, 09:52 AM
Well, Kuhn is a FB, so they could keep all of them.

Agreed, I don't see why not. They can still do what they do with Kuhn next season, Grant is not the worlds greatest power back. Jackson can still be third down back because he is the best blocker and receiver in our backfield. Then you have Grant and Grant 2.0 (James Starks) who are pretty much the same back (size, running styple)

We got a power back, 2 slashers, and while Jackson a homerun theat 3rd down back he does get the job done, not to forget a bruising fullback. I think Korey Hall will be the odd man out even though he is a great specialist (Havner was better and he got cut)

J-Mike88
01-10-2011, 10:54 AM
Starks reminds me of a poor-man's Adrian Peterson now.... big and strong, fast, leans forward at the end of almost every run. Hungry, energetic.

I think all our RB's FBs will be back next year except Korey Hall.
SO: QuinnJ, Kuhn, Starks, Grant, Jackson will be the 5.

senormysterioso
01-10-2011, 10:58 AM
Starks reminds me of a poor-man's Adrian Peterson now.... big and strong, fast, leans forward at the end of almost every run. Hungry, energetic.

I think all our RB's FBs will be back next year except Korey Hall.
SO: QuinnJ, Kuhn, Starks, Grant, Jackson will be the 5.

Based on yesterdays game, that seems like a fair comparison. The only thing he's lacking is the top end speed. I don't think Jackson should be retained. We can get what he gives us out of a rookie, who has the potential to blossom into something more.

J-Mike88
01-10-2011, 11:17 AM
Based on yesterdays game, that seems like a fair comparison. The only thing he's lacking is the top end speed. I don't think Jackson should be retained. We can get what he gives us out of a rookie, who has the potential to blossom into something more.
I'm certainly not in love with B Jackson and could live without him, but I think the coaches feel very good about him on 3rd downs, or 2nd & longs and screens like yesterday.

Still, he offers nothing special as we saw from Lynch to seal that win over the Saints, and Jackson was a 2nd round pick so he should possess something better than just okay.

I think with him, it depends on his contract and I would expect it's pretty minimal, easy to absorb. Not sure though. Look at the Saints though.... sometimes you need 4 RBs to make it through... I think Jackson will stay but who knows.

BloodBrother
01-10-2011, 12:25 PM
the coaches love Jackson because he is assignment sure, reliable and most importantly, he is a good blocker. Helping to keep Rodgers upright and not take big hits goes a long way with the coaches. We've heard how much they have raved about him before. I see them bringing him back. a Grant/Starks/Jackson trio should be excellent.

Zycho32
01-10-2011, 02:54 PM
Assuming Grant recovers fully for next season, should we try placing Starks at KR?

Hear me out; Starks is a one-cut downhill runner in the Grant mold and he plays on a team that is frequently outdoors and has a penchant for playing in weather that is a detriment to those speedy little waterbugs we so zealously covet for the job. So unless we can find a specific Collegate demon on returns with the sort of mental makeup to withstand the cold and outdoor conditions, it might be more worthwhile to play it 'sure and steady' and just fix the blasted blocking.

J-Mike88
01-10-2011, 05:45 PM
I want our #5 WR to be a guy like a Jacoby Ford, a KR specialist.
There are some guys like that we can find on day 3 of the draft. I like Swain, but I feel a great KR would be better than what he offers us.

Bottom line is I want to be drafting #32 every round.

Auron
01-10-2011, 05:57 PM
Well now that the Saints are out of it, I'm rooting for the Packers to make it all the way.

Hopefully they can beat the Falcons.

drowe
01-11-2011, 11:58 AM
Anybody ever stop and think how strange of a trip it's been for James Starks this year?

-Drafted in the 6th round out of Buffalo. Strange right off the bat since a small school RB is a fringe draftable prospect unless he's a physical freak.

-Add in the injury concern...the dude didn't play at all his senior year...and combine that with the low level of competetion, and this guy is lucky to be a UDFA.

-But, for whatever reason, the Packers drafted him in the 6th round....and what does he do....gets hurt and misses TC and the pre-season.

-Well, we tried. Now he's injured again, so the question is, do we cut ties right away, or stubbornly place the dude on IR thinking maybe he'll be healthy next year. Nope. We'll put him on the PUP list.

-So, half the season comes and goes, and a decision needs to be made. NOW it seems like time to release him or send him to IR. NOPE. added to the roster.

-So, after a couple weeks, he gets some game time...and plays pretty well. So, the assumption is; he'll be a fixture for the rest of the season. NOPE. health scratch for the next few weeks.

-Now, in week 18, he has to be considered the MVP of the Wild Card game.

-But, really, everything about this guy in 2010 has defied all logic.

-But, just another reason to love Ted Thompson.

princefielder28
01-11-2011, 12:12 PM
Starks has had quite the ride over the past year or so but it's not like he's come completely out of nowhere...if he had stayed healthy his senior year there was a chance he'd go in the first two rounds of the draft

RockJock07
01-11-2011, 02:43 PM
So is Capers still safe from other teams trying to hire him as a HC. I hope so, I think he knows this situation is pretty damn good with a young defense, TT getting him what he needs, and a young superstar QB on the other side of the ball.

I'm just crossing my fingers that he stays.

BloodBrother
01-11-2011, 03:04 PM
Well, as long as the Pack are in the playoffs, teams can't talk to him. I think Denver has been the only team he's been linked to as a candidate, so far. I'd hope he'd want to stick here considering the situation in Denver is a mess. Here, he's got a defense that is in only their 2nd year in his scheme and is playing well, and has some great young talent to work with.

BloodBrother
01-11-2011, 03:08 PM
BTW, here is a great read on James Starks. Did you know that he was almost going to be a Bear?

Bears nearly drafted Starks 10 picks before Green Bay took him (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-playoffs-rookie-report-card.html)


As we got closer to our pick, Angelo made the decision for the Bears to draft Starks. When we drafted a player there was a protocol we followed. After the decision on who to draft was made, Cliff Stein (the Bears contract negotiator) would call the players agent and tell him we were planning on drafting his player. He would tell the agent that the wanted to get a 4-year contract with the player and wanted the contract done by a certain date. If the agent agreed then I would call the player and give him the news that the Bears were going to take him. This is exactly what happened with Starks. I was on the phone for a minute or so with Starks when Angelo walked in my office and told me he had changed his mind and was drafting LeFevour. I put Starks on hold and then said to Angelo that Stein had already talked to the agent and I had the player on the phone…we couldn’t do business like that. He said he was sorry but he decided he wanted LeFevour and the card had been turned in.

I then had to tell the player (a player that I had developed a good relationship with over the previous two years) that in fact we were not drafting him. Hearing a kid go from being extremely excited to silence was not easy. It was the most embarrassing moment I had experienced while scouting.

Gotta love Jerry Angelo

PackerLegend
01-11-2011, 03:14 PM
Who saw Casey Matthews forced fumble in the 4th quarter last night? That looked so much like his older brother Clay. I think the bloodlines this family has is enough reason to get his brother on our team :D.

GB12
01-11-2011, 03:38 PM
Who saw Casey Matthews forced fumble in the 4th quarter last night? That looked so much like his older brother Clay. I think the bloodlines this family has is enough reason to get his brother on our team :D.Too bad we have absolutely no need for another ILB.

J-Mike88
01-11-2011, 03:52 PM
BTW, here is a great read on James Starks. Did you know that he was almost going to be a Bear?

Bears nearly drafted Starks 10 picks before Green Bay took him (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFL-playoffs-rookie-report-card.html)
Gotta love Jerry Angelo
Hopefully he plays extra hard and well every time we face the Bears for about the next 8 years!

RyanBraun8
01-11-2011, 10:23 PM
His most remarkable stat was during that two-year period he had 7 touchdowns of over 50 yards, including a 92-yard TD run.

This is the best part of the story. Once he gets going he can be a big weapon. I think he has just started to scratch the surface! Plus here is another reason why he reminds me so much of Grant (2007 version). They are true one cut slashers, with the same size, upright running style, and can explode out of cuts. I understand the AP comparison but realistically I don't think Starks could ever be as dangerous as AP or the man everyone compares AP to in Eric Dickerson. Those two guys are elite hall of fame guys. AP is just flithy when he is not fumbling. But i think with the chance Starks could be as productive as Grant, a 1,200 yard 10 TD guy.

The story also goes to prove once again why the Bears still suck!

Zycho32
01-12-2011, 12:23 AM
Too bad we have absolutely no need for another ILB.

There's no chance at all of converting him to an OLB?

Not even considering the idea that if we ARE going to be getting rid of one of the present trio established at ILB, then getting a new 3rd ILB might be a good idea?

GB12
01-12-2011, 12:31 AM
There's no chance at all of converting him to an OLB?

Not even considering the idea that if we ARE going to be getting rid of one of the present trio established at ILB, then getting a new 3rd ILB might be a good idea?

He really doesn't fit well as a 3-4 OLB. He's actually probably best suited for a 4-3 OLB, but he could probably make it as an ILB in a 3-4.

And even if we do get rid of Hawk or Barnett (I wouldn't completely rule out keeping all three, though unlikely), we still have two starters and Chillar. If he's there when we pick in the 5th, fine, but we have no reason to take an ILB earlier than that.

jsa230
01-12-2011, 01:28 AM
If he's there when we pick in the 5th, fine, but we have no reason to take an ILB earlier than that.

out of pure homerism i would take casey in the third . . but thats prolly cuz i have a huge boner for clay

GB12
01-12-2011, 01:31 AM
out of pure homerism i would take casey in the third . . but thats prolly cuz i have a huge boner for clay

Exactly. That's the only reason any of us are interested in him. If he was the same player, but with a different name/family no one would be talking about us drafting him.

tjsunstein
01-12-2011, 09:41 AM
I would be absolutely thrilled if we got Casey even as just a special teamer.

J-Mike88
01-12-2011, 10:41 AM
Exactly. That's the only reason any of us are interested in him. If he was the same player, but with a different name/family no one would be talking about us drafting him.
With all due respect, the Matthews bloodline is worth something. You can't write these guys off.
Casey might be the perfect type of Ted Thompson guy.... a late-bloomer, hard worker, perfect to improve our special teams.

Even if he doesn't blossom into a stud starting LB, he seems to be a guy that can easily replace a Poppinga or Chillar IMO, down the road. Again, you can't discount that bloodline. It's remarkable.

The former Brown Clay Matthews was never the most blessed guy talent-wise, but thru hard work, he became like an 18-year player. These guys are unique.

J-Mike88
01-12-2011, 06:01 PM
I guess I should have put ^that^ in our draft thread. But THIS can go here:
CONGRATS TO THOR!

The Sporting News has named Clay Matthews its NFL Defensive Player of the Year. Matthews, in his second season as outside linebacker with the Green Bay Packers, has 13 1/2 sacks, 60 tackles, one interception and two forced fumbles this season.

Atlanta's Mike Smith and Mike Mularkey were named the coach of the year and coordinator of the year, respectively.

Tom Brady was the Sporting News' offensive player of the year.

BloodBrother
01-12-2011, 08:36 PM
I guess I should have put ^that^ in our draft thread. But THIS can go here:
CONGRATS TO THOR!

The Sporting News has named Clay Matthews its NFL Defensive Player of the Year. Matthews, in his second season as outside linebacker with the Green Bay Packers, has 13 1/2 sacks, 60 tackles, one interception and two forced fumbles this season.




http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/feed/2011-01/sn-2010-nfl-awards/story/2010-sn-nfl-defensive-player-of-the-year-green-bay-packers-olb-clay-matthews

there's the link. Congrats to Clay

J-Mike88
01-12-2011, 10:04 PM
Just watching some film here, and this thought occurred to me:
One of our biggest problems in big games has been Rodgers fumbling the ball away.

He lost the one in OT to lose the Arizona game.
He lost the one at the goalline at Atlanta, which proved fatal in a big game.
He lost one at Philly last week in the playoffs, which almost led to us eventually losing that game.

We've all gotten pissed off at James Jones for his drops, and his fumbles against the Bears a couple of times. But Rodgers has to make sure he doesn't fumble the ball away.

We need M-Ice to cough one up to us to make it even, and hopefully it's one of their few times they enter our red zone.

Sportsfan486
01-12-2011, 10:51 PM
Just watching some film here, and this thought occurred to me:
One of our biggest problems in big games has been Rodgers fumbling the ball away.

He lost the one in OT to lose the Arizona game.
He lost the one at the goalline at Atlanta, which proved fatal in a big game.
He lost one at Philly last week in the playoffs, which almost led to us eventually losing that game.

We've all gotten pissed off at James Jones for his drops, and his fumbles against the Bears a couple of times. But Rodgers has to make sure he doesn't fumble the ball away.

We need M-Ice to cough one up to us to make it even, and hopefully it's one of their few times they enter our red zone.

While I agree, it's worth noting that QBs as a whole fumble more. The ball is hanging out there for anyone to get when they drop back. Not like a WR who should have that **** in a deathgrip.

J-Mike88
01-13-2011, 06:30 AM
While I agree, it's worth noting that QBs as a whole fumble more. The ball is hanging out there for anyone to get when they drop back. Not like a WR who should have that **** in a deathgrip.
Absolutely.
And I am not saying that Rodgers fumbles a ton. It's just that thinking about it watching the game films, it seems that in the 3 biggest games he's played in (or the 2 biggest + the Atlanta one in Nov), he has had a crucial fumble.

It's time we turn the tables on Matt Ryan.

RockJock07
01-13-2011, 02:13 PM
Here in Memphis some of the sports radio guys were saying that the Packers seemed very business like in their game against Philly.

After reading Silverstein's practice update on JSOnline today it seems like that's how MM has them looking at these games.

MM seems to have the pulse of this team down to the very last player. Doesn't mean they'll win but they sound very confident and focused.

J-Mike88
01-13-2011, 04:25 PM
I want to see our gigantic beefy DL crush and punish the Falcons OL, RB, FB, and QB.

I like McCarthy's approach and believe in him and the team.

My only worries are the refs. And turnovers.
Turnovers have a % that is luck, I'd say a good 50% of it is luck.
And refs? Don't get me started with the Bears game 1 film or some of the hits Rodgers has taken that weren't flagged but that our D has been flagged for. People say don't worry, those things even out. If so, we should be clear sailing to Dallas.

BloodBrother
01-13-2011, 04:33 PM
He was most likely a long shot anyway, but Capers name had been linked(at least mentioned by a few analyst/writers) as a potential candidate for the Broncos job. We now know that is a moot point with Fox getting the job.

J-Mike88
01-13-2011, 04:53 PM
He was most likely a long shot anyway, but Capers name had been linked(at least mentioned by a few analyst/writers) as a potential candidate for the Broncos job. We now know that is a moot point with Fox getting the job.
Yep, good hire by Denver with John Fox.
Let's keep staying alive for another week, and two, and three.... and let all those other coaching vacancies be filled up before we're done.

Good article about thanking Favre for Matthews>
http://packersinsider.com/2011/01/packers-can-thank-favre-for-producing-matthews/

BloodBrother
01-16-2011, 11:49 AM
Aaron Rodgers playoff stats, all 3 games have been on the road, to

77-105(73%) completion, 969 yards(323 ave. per game), 9.2 yards per pass attempt, 10 TD, 1 INT. 8 rushes, 30 yards, 2 rushing TD's

http://api.ning.com/files/igUbhZvlyV2Ztj7QnBVJVcShmeJDozB8LRGwqNVGo2gjkKPpk9 5czyVB8f9BYLJWIiAhDCWQfqkp4GGHIool5RWu9z3UMtzO/thanksted.jpg

BloodBrother
01-16-2011, 01:00 PM
Not over yet, but it might as well be. Looks like its setting up for an epic NFC North showdown in the Championship game

tjsunstein
01-16-2011, 02:20 PM
Couldn't have asked for a better road to the Super Bowl in the NFC.

@ PHI
@ ATL
@ CHI

J-Mike88
01-16-2011, 02:47 PM
Couldn't have asked for a better road to the Super Bowl in the NFC.

@ PHI (#3 seed)
@ ATL (#1 seed)
@ CHI (#2 seed)
Culminating in defeating God's greatest coach and QB of all time in the Super Bowl?

Could not have written a better Victory Tour than that script. No way, no how.
And to do it missing 1/5th of our starting lineup? That will make those guys deadly hungry next year.

Sportsfan486
01-16-2011, 02:54 PM
Let's not get carried away. The Bears have owned us in Chicago as of late.

BloodBrother
01-16-2011, 03:35 PM
Yup. I think GB is more talented, but whenever they play there it seems that we see the Pack fumble the ball while having an impressive drive, a FG gets blocked, and the Bears get great bounces on everything

Quailman
01-17-2011, 07:13 AM
YO so i fucken PUT teh PUT in th score n fucken YARDIGE n FELD GOLES n fucken PATS n fucken SACK n VORPS n BABBIPS n SIERRA n WARS n all taht **** from SUNDYS fucken FALCN PICKERS GAEM into my TI89 2 findd out th fucken SABAR<MERTIRIC analsi of teh game n gess wat teh fucken SCRENNN SED:

BEEP BOP BOOP BIP the PACKERS b a BUNCH of SHITASS & BIRCHASS & PUSSYASS babyback BIRCHEES yes I M CALCULATOR TI 89 ROBOT yes MASTER"

so yeeee ****** **** AINT FARE but that aint fucken TIMY DMITROFF or MAIK SMIFF FALT it cuz that shittass BUD SEELIG fucken RIG th NFL th fucklen RIGG UP n u no this SPROT FAN.

HEAR CUMS DA BEAR CLAPT!

J-Mike88
01-17-2011, 08:36 AM
Yup. I think GB is more talented, but whenever they play there it seems that we see the JAMES JONES fumble the ball while having an impressive drive, a FG gets blocked, and the Bears get great bounces on everything and get away with penalties while the Packers get called for an all-time record amount of them including denying a TD and 2 Ints
The worse the weather is, the more it favors the slower, bigger, stronger, more physical DL/OL of the Bears.
I wish we could play these guys in the Falcons or Vikings or Saints dome.

mqtirishfan
01-17-2011, 11:18 AM
YO so i fucken PUT teh PUT in th score n fucken YARDIGE n FELD GOLES n fucken PATS n fucken SACK n VORPS n BABBIPS n SIERRA n WARS n all taht **** from SUNDYS fucken FALCN PICKERS GAEM into my TI89 2 findd out th fucken SABAR<MERTIRIC analsi of teh game n gess wat teh fucken SCRENNN SED:



so yeeee ****** **** AINT FARE but that aint fucken TIMY DMITROFF or MAIK SMIFF FALT it cuz that shittass BUD SEELIG fucken RIG th NFL th fucklen RIGG UP n u no this SPROT FAN.

HEAR CUMS DA BEAR CLAPT!

Was this really necessary at all?

J-Mike88
01-17-2011, 02:11 PM
No ^^^ wasn't necessary. No idea what that was all about.

THIS IS: MO2r0Vm8keQ

TPh5ONHOGF0

RyanBraun8
01-17-2011, 02:55 PM
The worse the weather is, the more it favors the slower, bigger, stronger, more physical DL/OL of the Bears.
I wish we could play these guys in the Falcons or Vikings or Saints dome.

The game will be simular weather as the last match up which I guess the weaker, smaller, less physical OL/DL won the game...... I know BJ Raji, Ryan Pickett, Howard Green (all over 340) plus Cullen Jenkins (310) and CJ Wison (290) are all pretty small, weak, non physical guys but I have a feeling they can manage a little cold weather and the bigger, strong, meaner bears.

In reality, Bears run a 4-3 defense that is based off of speed and getting at the offense. They go 280 310 295 270 Peppers, Adams, Harris, Idoniji. So how is this a slower, bigger, stronger, more physical DL?

Bears Offensive line is not consider by most a dominate force, or really that physical or bruising of a line. Nor do we but I don't see how Omiyale (6'4 315) Williams (6'6 315) Kreutz (6'2 290) Garza (6'2 310) Webb(6'6 335) is really that much bigger, stronger, more physical than Clifton(6'5 320) Colledge(6'4 310) Wells (6'2 300) Sitton(6'3 320) Bulaga (6'5 315)???

So I will take on the bears in the same weather maybe a tad bit colder than the last time we played them and am not scared that the Bears are this big massive, physical, bruising, powerful team because they aren't. They have the same type of lineman as us on offense and they have a speed DL. The one advantage is we don't have Cutler and we have WR's. Forte is no unstoppable force eighter

J-Mike88
01-17-2011, 04:11 PM
..... that much bigger, stronger, more physical than Clifton(6'5 320) Colledge(6'4 310) Wells (6'2 300) Sitton(6'3 320) Bulaga (6'5 315)???
Those 5 guys you mentioned might be the key. When they play well, 12 has time to be a surgeon.
When they open running holes, then it's even easier for 12.

umphrey
01-17-2011, 04:17 PM
So he only has 3 playoff games, a really small sample size, but if Aaron Rodgers plays anything like he has going forward for a number of years it's going to be Montana, Brady, Rodgers as the elite playoff QBs. I'm not getting ahead of myself - no ring yet, but he'll get one - but Aaron Rodgers has been breaking all kinds of records for "first do _______ in his first _______ games/seasons/etc." Averaging 4 TDs and 0.33 interceptions per playoff game? Yeah, there's reason to be all over this guys dick and I'm shy about talking about how freaking awesome he is.

bearsfan_51
01-17-2011, 04:27 PM
So he only has 3 playoff games, a really small sample size, but if Aaron Rodgers plays anything like he has going forward for a number of years it's going to be Montana, Brady, Rodgers as the elite playoff QBs. I'm not getting ahead of myself - no ring yet, but he'll get one - but Aaron Rodgers has been breaking all kinds of records for "first do _______ in his first _______ games/seasons/etc." Averaging 4 TDs and 0.33 interceptions per playoff game? Yeah, there's reason to be all over this guys dick and I'm shy about talking about how freaking awesome he is.
Of course you're not.

J-Mike88
01-17-2011, 04:44 PM
The weather, defense, and illegal contact of the Bears will be a whole other level of a test. 2 ints and 0 ints will be good this game. What is interesting is that his one int was his FIRST playoff pass ever.

umphrey
01-17-2011, 04:55 PM
So he only has 3 playoff games, a really small sample size, but if Aaron Rodgers plays anything like he has going forward for a number of years it's going to be Montana, Brady, Rodgers as the elite playoff QBs. I'm not getting ahead of myself - no ring yet, but he'll get one - but Aaron Rodgers has been breaking all kinds of records for "first do _______ in his first _______ games/seasons/etc." Averaging 4 TDs and 0.33 interceptions per playoff game? Yeah, there's reason to be all over this guys dick and I'm shy about talking about how freaking awesome he is.

Of course you're not.
go ahead and keep reading only the words you want to

bearsfan_51
01-17-2011, 05:42 PM
Simply saying that Rogers will get a ring is getting ahead of yourself. Let alone the other ridiculousness.

Hawk
01-17-2011, 05:44 PM
Simply saying that Rogers will get a ring is getting ahead of yourself. Let alone the other ridiculousness.

Rogers, really? I expected more out of you.

bearsfan_51
01-17-2011, 05:51 PM
I always think of this guy:

http://www.post-gazette.com/images2/20030227mr7_230.jpg

Quailman
01-17-2011, 07:03 PM
Was this really necessary at all?

Yo SPROT! R yoo lIEk tryan ToO talk mE dat u dosN'T TALKX liek dis in Westconsin?!

TitleTown088
01-17-2011, 07:05 PM
Rogers, really? I expected more out of you.

To be fair you bolded the wrong word. ;)

J-Mike88
01-17-2011, 08:42 PM
Simply saying that Rogers will get a ring is getting ahead of yourself. Let alone the other ridiculousness.

True, Rodgers might not get a ring. Or he might get some rings.
Cuntler might get a ring too. Maybe the Bears can buy another player from another franchise this off-season to put them over the top. JayC and Peppers have helped them out.... I hear Haynesworth is available.

RyanBraun8
01-17-2011, 09:13 PM
Yo SPROT! R yoo lIEk tryan ToO talk mE dat u dosN'T TALKX liek dis in Westconsin?!

1) You are a massive tool

2) I understand it is cool to be extremely ignorant but Wisconsin actually has one of the highest performing education systems in the United States and is ranked in the top ten every year. Good for the best in the Midwest. Minnesota and Iowa are pretty good as well.

3) Don't insult us by trying to speak like a Upper because as much as people in the UP wish they were Wisconsinites, they are not.

4) You probably do not have the intellegence to understand what or where the UP (Upper Peninsula) is but it is part of the state Michigan.

5) Please understand there is nothing wrong with learning to read, write, and your case type. It will help you a lot in the long run.... but if I had to guess it may be too late for you

Quailman
01-17-2011, 09:33 PM
1) You are a massive tool

2) I understand it is cool to be extremely ignorant but Wisconsin actually has one of the highest performing education systems in the United States and is ranked in the top ten every year. Good for the best in the Midwest. Minnesota and Iowa are pretty good as well.

3) Don't insult us by trying to speak like a Upper because as much as people in the UP wish they were Wisconsinites, they are not.

4) You probably do not have the intellegence to understand what or where the UP (Upper Peninsula) is but it is part of the state Michigan.

5) Please understand there is nothing wrong with learning to read, write, and your case type. It will help you a lot in the long run.... but if I had to guess it may be too late for you

So is that a no? Sharktits. Sorry brah.

PackerLegend
01-17-2011, 10:14 PM
Yo SPROT! R yoo lIEk tryan ToO talk mE dat u dosN'T TALKX liek dis in Westconsin?!

Thanks for all your insight buddy. Instead of spending 20 minutes typing like a dumb*** why dont you instead post something useful. Who am I trying to kid, its obvious your incapable of doing that.

mqtirishfan
01-17-2011, 11:24 PM
Yo SPROT! R yoo lIEk tryan ToO talk mE dat u dosN'T TALKX liek dis in Westconsin?!

I'm from Michigan, my friend.

mqtirishfan
01-17-2011, 11:26 PM
3) Don't insult us by trying to speak like a Upper because as much as people in the UP wish they were Wisconsinites, they are not.


That's how yoopers speak? Chill, boy. I have absolutely no interest in being a Wisconsinite.

bearsfan_51
01-17-2011, 11:46 PM
True, Rodgers might not get a ring. Or he might get some rings.
Cuntler might get a ring too. Maybe the Bears can buy another player from another franchise this off-season to put them over the top. JayC and Peppers have helped them out.... I hear Haynesworth is available.
Oh my gawd! Free agency and trades are da devil!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/BrettFavre.jpg/220px-BrettFavre.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/24/Reggie_white_packers.jpg/200px-Reggie_white_packers.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/40/CharlesWoodson21_CoreyWilliams99-Edit2.jpg/220px-CharlesWoodson21_CoreyWilliams99-Edit2.jpg

Monomach
01-17-2011, 11:49 PM
True, Rodgers might not get a ring. Or he might get some rings.
Cuntler might get a ring too. Maybe the Bears can buy another player from another franchise this off-season to put them over the top. JayC and Peppers have helped them out.... I hear Haynesworth is available.

Brett Favre
Reggie White
Charles Woodson
Ahman Green
Willie Davis
Al Harris

Tell us more about how getting good players from other franchises is evil or whatever you're implying here.

Monomach
01-17-2011, 11:50 PM
Aw, crap. Got beat to it.

johbur
01-18-2011, 12:38 AM
I find it incredible in the history of these two franchises it has been 70 years since they've met in a championship game, and never the NFC Championship Game. Time to hoist the Halas!!! WooT!

J-Mike88
01-18-2011, 09:20 AM
Willie Davis

Tell us more about how getting good players from other franchises is evil or whatever you're implying here.
Wow, going back 40 years now? Good research.

Who said evil? I never used the word evil? Did you recognize the word "evil" because I didn't say the word evil.

What I am implying is last year you didn't have Peppers.
The year before you didn't have Cuntler.
This year, you didn't have Albert.
Maybe next year you will.

Why would that bother you?

Dan Snyder endorses that method of roster-building, by the way.

senormysterioso
01-18-2011, 10:09 AM
There is something very rewarding about having your guys be your guys, homegrown talent to use the cliche. Cutler and Peppers come off as mercenaries to me, I don't blame them for wanting out in Denver and Carolina respectively, but they don't strike me as guys that understand, appreciate, or frankly, really care about Chicago's tradition and history.

drowe
01-18-2011, 11:57 AM
Really, lets not get into a pissing contest with Bears fans. I was down on the Bears all year, but, they're not here by accident. And who cares how they built their team?

Favre4ever
01-18-2011, 03:52 PM
Its one of these games where it would be great to have Finley in the line up...

Sportsfan486
01-18-2011, 04:08 PM
Really, lets not get into a pissing contest with Bears fans. I was down on the Bears all year, but, they're not here by accident. And who cares how they built their team?

Yeah. Who cares? We make trades and sign free agents, too. It's part of the game called football.

J-Mike88
01-18-2011, 04:45 PM
Its one of these games where it would be great to have Finley in the line up...
Good point.
Well, the Bears are way overdue for some bad luck.
Plus, they just had Seattle's key TE go down early in that game, John Carlson.

What would the Bears offense be like without Olsen after the 1st quarter?

GB12
01-19-2011, 07:21 PM
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9553/16773414906265180661606.jpg

TitleTown088
01-19-2011, 07:26 PM
That's real sweet.

J-Mike88
01-19-2011, 10:20 PM
http://www.nfl.com/videos/green-bay-packers/09000d5d81dcbdf0/Sound-FX-Packers-vs-Falcons

F/X Packers, COOL STUFF.

Hawk
01-20-2011, 11:49 AM
Raji seems like a fun guy to hang out with

jsa230
01-20-2011, 11:50 AM
Raji seems like a fun guy to hang out with
yeah, id like to burn one down with the dude ..

Vikes99ej
01-20-2011, 03:34 PM
Please, please, please, please beat the Bears.

-Sincerely

Vikes99ej

bearsfan_51
01-20-2011, 04:06 PM
Good point.
Well, the Bears are way overdue for some bad luck.
Plus, they just had Seattle's key TE go down early in that game, John Carlson.

What would the Bears offense be like without Olsen after the 1st quarter?
Are you seriously implying that we won that game because John Carlson got injured?

J-Mike88
01-20-2011, 04:32 PM
Are you seriously implying that we won that game because John Carlson got injured?
I say what I mean, why do you try to keep putting words on here that I didn't say?

Translation: The Bears have gotten more breaks this season from week 1 on, than any other team in the NFL, and the Seahawks losing Carlson early was just another break for them. Not a huge one, but a good one. Imagine if it was Olsen who broke his head instead of Carlson. Deny that it would have impacted the Bears offense that day.

Of course, playing Seattle instead of New Orleans was also a nice little break there for the Bears and you know it because 100% of Bears fans were rooting for Seattle to beat New Orleans for just that reason.

This was a lucky break in case you forgot. Starting 0-1 with a home loss to the worst team in the division would have gotten them off to a terrible start and who knows what the result would have been.

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Even though the ref at the 45 second mark with a perfect view called it a TD, somehow the Bears were able to get another ref to take the TD away, just like in the Packers game when they took Finley's away on a shaky holding call on Tauscher. There were dozens of worse holds that day against Matthews and Peppers and Zombo that weren't called.

So there you have it. What I am implying is what I said: The Bears have had more breaks this season than any other team, and there's no reason to think that won't continue Sunday. Are the Packers that much better than the Bears to overcome all that? We'll all find out Sunday.

BloodBrother
01-20-2011, 05:19 PM
Tramon Williams has been added to the Pro Bowl roster. Asante Samuel pulled out

GB12
01-20-2011, 05:25 PM
Nice! Not like he's going to be playing in it anyway though.

cvv84
01-20-2011, 06:06 PM
Its one of these games where it would be great to have Finley in the line up...

I don't know, he's a very talented player but when he was out there this season he was the focal point of our offense. Since his injury Jennings took off and the ball was spread around nicely to Driver, Jones, and Nelson. The latter 2 has career seasons. At this point I'd much rather have Ryan Grant in the lineup than Finley.

drowe
01-20-2011, 06:41 PM
Starting 0-1 with a home loss to the worst team in the division




What do the vikings have to do with this? :)

bigboiajhawk
01-20-2011, 08:16 PM
I hate to quote Warren Sapp but in their NFL.com video he calls B.J. Raji, "a Bowling Ball of Butchers Knives"

I have no idea what that even means but I like it.


Here is the video link, it is right at the end when Sapp says that.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/green-bay-packers/09000d5d81dd0e08/No-Huddle-Rodgers-vs-Cutler

hoekd0250
01-21-2011, 12:36 PM
i was just wondering if anyone has heard about farve reportly coming out and saying the packers group of recievers are probally the greatest group in the nfl today. I think its just another low blow at Rodgers as to how good he is playing and a way of saying its not that big of a deal because his recievers are so much better. I want Rodgers, Woodson, driver, tausher and clifton to get a ring so bad as they dont have long left and have been great team players for our franchise. We have so many great standout role models on our team actually no trash talk all hard workers great job by thompson and macarthy

J-Mike88
01-21-2011, 01:53 PM
Right, F**** Farve.
He had the same group, with Driver younger and better.

He also called his Minnesota Vikings the most talented team he's ever played on, last year.

Screw him.

I'd never retire his jersey if I was TT. Give #4 to the next punter or kicker.

Retire Desmond Howard's jersey instead. He was the Super Bowl MVP of the ONE ring Favre got.... and it should have been Reggie White as the MVP. Favre was just along for the ride for that one title.

When he tried to do it himself, he threw a game-losing INT every **** time.

RyanBraun8
01-21-2011, 04:27 PM
Right, F**** Farve.
He had the same group, with Driver younger and better.

He also called his Minnesota Vikings the most talented team he's ever played on, last year.

Screw him.

I'd never retire his jersey if I was TT. Give #4 to the next punter or kicker.

Retire Desmond Howard's jersey instead. He was the Super Bowl MVP of the ONE ring Favre got.... and it should have been Reggie White as the MVP. Favre was just along for the ride for that one title.

When he tried to do it himself, he threw a game-losing INT every **** time.

Wow.... sometimes you just leave me completely speechless. Literally, I think Sarah Palin makes more sense than you sometimes and that is really tough to pull off. You just leave me dumbfounded sometimes with these types of useless post. I know you say what you mean but wow...

RyanBraun8
01-21-2011, 04:30 PM
Tramon Williams has been added to the Pro Bowl roster. Asante Samuel pulled out

Great news for Tramon, he had deserved it, only down side is that it was kind of pointless to add him since he won't be able to play in the game anyways ;)

knock on wood

Favre4ever
01-21-2011, 08:59 PM
I don't know, he's a very talented player but when he was out there this season he was the focal point of our offense. Since his injury Jennings took off and the ball was spread around nicely to Driver, Jones, and Nelson. The latter 2 has career seasons. At this point I'd much rather have Ryan Grant in the lineup than Finley.

I think Rodgers learned from that this year and wont make that mistake next year. Finley is such a nightmare for game plans, you cannot say no to that.

RyanBraun8
01-22-2011, 11:28 AM
I think Rodgers learned from that this year and wont make that mistake next year. Finley is such a nightmare for game plans, you cannot say no to that.

Agreed, plus if we would have been able to get him back for this game, Rodgers has be in such a groove with those other 4 WR's that I think J-Mike would get a lot of favorable match ups and our offense would open up even more.

Grant would of course help though, he allows the Packers to run to open the pass over A-Rod needing to get rolling for our ground game to work. I am high on Starks and if the line gives him a crease he can explode through it, he has been only a couple shoe lace trips away from busting that huge run so I think he is due. Have to give credit to Atlanta though, they played outstanding run defense and didn't give him to many holes to work with.

I think if Starks can get a couple nice runs in that first drive Packers will be fine, I just hope that they don't have to rely solely on the passing game to win.

J-Mike88
01-22-2011, 01:59 PM
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Last night, pretty cool.

PackerLegend
01-22-2011, 02:16 PM
Rodgers is the mother****ing man! nuff said

J-Mike88
01-22-2011, 04:25 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 100% of our starting offense, plus the #3, 4, and 5 WRs were all original Packers? Not FAs or trades, etc.

On D, we have Woodson, Pickett, Peprah, Fat Howard....?

Zycho32
01-22-2011, 05:34 PM
Kuhn, Tramon Williams, and Walden too.

Boston
01-22-2011, 07:16 PM
Agreed, plus if we would have been able to get him back for this game, Rodgers has be in such a groove with those other 4 WR's that I think J-Mike would get a lot of favorable match ups and our offense would open up even more.

Grant would of course help though, he allows the Packers to run to open the pass over A-Rod needing to get rolling for our ground game to work. I am high on Starks and if the line gives him a crease he can explode through it, he has been only a couple shoe lace trips away from busting that huge run so I think he is due. Have to give credit to Atlanta though, they played outstanding run defense and didn't give him to many holes to work with.

I think if Starks can get a couple nice runs in that first drive Packers will be fine, I just hope that they don't have to rely solely on the passing game to win.

What's that quote, absence makes the heart grow stronger or whatever? We never used Grant to run to set up the pass, it was always pass to set up the run because Grant couldn't do **** when the defense was even kind of looking run.

TimmG6376
01-23-2011, 04:51 PM
What's that quote, absence makes the heart grow stronger or whatever? We never used Grant to run to set up the pass, it was always pass to set up the run because Grant couldn't do **** when the defense was even kind of looking run.

That hasn't changed. The running game is always better when it surprises the D, hence the difficulties on 3rd and short. When the D knows whats coming getting a single yard is a challenge.

Vikes99ej
01-23-2011, 05:25 PM
Thank you sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much for beating the Bears. I know we're rivals, but it's nice to see a border-bro make the Super Bowl.

GB12
01-23-2011, 05:36 PM
The Bears can say whatever they want about the division title, I'll take the conference.

Sportsfan486
01-23-2011, 05:39 PM
The Bears can say whatever they want about the division title, I'll take the conference.

BOOOOOOOOOM!

BloodBrother
01-23-2011, 05:41 PM
Man, so proud for Driver, Clifton and the other long time Packers vets. Woodson with another shot at the SB to. Win it for these guys!

cvv84
01-23-2011, 05:56 PM
I have a feeling that we'll be playing the Steelers in the Superbowl. The Jets don't really scare me but the Steelers do. They have a complete team and have been there before. I still get flashbacks of that December game against them 2 years ago.

I'm sooooo freaking excited to be back in the Superbowl though. 4 more quarters to close it out. Lets go!

hoekd0250
01-23-2011, 06:11 PM
kinda sweet that rodgers first game was in cowboys stadium when farve got hurt and so will be his first superbowl

cvv84
01-23-2011, 06:14 PM
kinda sweet that rodgers first game was in cowboys stadium when farve got hurt and so will be his first superbowl

Oooo his 1st game was actually against the Saints in a blowout win when he came in on relief. His 1st TD pass was against the Cowboys though, all be it 2 years later. Bonus points: who was his 1st career completion too??

hoekd0250
01-23-2011, 06:24 PM
o sorry i always thought his first reguluar season action was the cowboys

senormysterioso
01-23-2011, 06:26 PM
I'm so jacked! Yes!! I'm disappointed that we didn't absolutely destroy the Bears, but a win is a win. SUPER BOWL!!

hoekd0250
01-23-2011, 06:32 PM
rodgers first pass was a completion to vontea leach for no gain in 2005 vs the saints

djp
01-23-2011, 06:44 PM
Congrats guys.

BloodBrother
01-23-2011, 07:01 PM
Yep, looks like they'll be facing Pittsburgh

TimmG6376
01-23-2011, 07:06 PM
Yep, looks like they'll be facing Pittsburgh

Yeah, was hoping for a Jets rematch since we shut them out once already, but I had a feeling the Steelers were just the better team.

GB12
01-23-2011, 07:08 PM
Yeah, this sucks. I think our chances against the Jets would have been 75-25. Against the Steelers, probably 50-50.

BloodBrother
01-23-2011, 07:08 PM
I welcome the challenge. Bring on the Steelers!

mqtirishfan
01-23-2011, 07:13 PM
Gonna be adding to my jersey collection, and I ask: Rodgers, Matthews or Raji?

Sportsfan486
01-23-2011, 07:14 PM
Wow. Steelers are pounding the Jets, huh?

Packers vs. Steelers. A very common preseason pick, too, although a tough road getting here.

They'll complete negate any running game so it's going to be all on Mr. Rodgers. Interesting to see how our D matches up. Mendenhall isn't elite but he'll pound for yards and Big Ben is hell to take down. Wallace is their biggest offensive threat at this point. We need to practice tackling for the next two weeks or Ben + Menden will murder us.

TimmG6376
01-23-2011, 07:19 PM
Wow. Steelers are pounding the Jets, huh?

Packers vs. Steelers. A very common preseason pick, too, although a tough road getting here.

They'll complete negate any running game so it's going to be all on Mr. Rodgers.

Steelers limit GOOD running teams to nothing on the ground, so yeah it will be on all Rodgers shoulders. Steelers secondary outside of Troy P. is not all that great, so that is a positive. Their front seven can be scary though. Similar to Capers if Lebeau can shutdown the run, the opposing QB better watch the **** out!

BloodBrother
01-23-2011, 07:21 PM
it's all about attempts. Just run enough to keep them honest and set up the PA, etc. Heath Miller is the guy that worries me

TimmG6376
01-23-2011, 07:44 PM
If the Jets get a stop here and score, they still have a chance.

TimmG6376
01-23-2011, 07:49 PM
Interesting...

Steelers kicker : Suisham
Steelers punter : Kapinos

Both cast aside by their previous teams.

BloodBrother
01-23-2011, 07:57 PM
Oh my god, their punter is Kapenis? Nice

TitleTown088
01-23-2011, 07:57 PM
The Bears can say whatever they want about the division title, I'll take the conference.


Yep.

http://i51.tinypic.com/rm35og.jpg

senormysterioso
01-23-2011, 07:58 PM
Wow. Steelers are pounding the Jets, huh?

Packers vs. Steelers. A very common preseason pick, too, although a tough road getting here.

They'll complete negate any running game so it's going to be all on Mr. Rodgers. Interesting to see how our D matches up. Mendenhall isn't elite but he'll pound for yards and Big Ben is hell to take down. Wallace is their biggest offensive threat at this point. We need to practice tackling for the next two weeks or Ben + Menden will murder us.

Our offensive line is going to have to play about 500x better to even stand a chance against the Steelers. Woodley and Harrison are going to make it tough for Aaron to get outside the pocket, so they are going to have to keep a tight end and a back in to block on a lot of plays. McCarthy needs to call a MUCH better game also. We've dominated the first halves of all of our playoff games, but McCarthy's second half play calling has allowed teams to get back into the game. We're also going to need Rodgers to be all ******* eye of the tiger like he was against the Falcons. If we play our best game, we can beat them...but I'm afraid we might need to play our best game to even have a chance.

BloodBrother
01-23-2011, 08:11 PM
Yep.

http://i51.tinypic.com/rm35og.jpg

the raji gifs are so full of win

TimmG6376
01-23-2011, 08:31 PM
Rant: There were 1,206 no-shows for the game. Few excuses are acceptable for not attending this classic rivalry game with so much on the line.

This is completely unacceptable.

BloodBrother
01-23-2011, 08:51 PM
Bring on Pittsburgh

TitleTown088
01-23-2011, 09:17 PM
http://www.fox11online.com/generic/news/Live_Streaming

Live homecoming stream.

PackerLegend
01-23-2011, 09:37 PM
I loved how DD said hes been blessed with 2 great QBs but this one got him to a superbowl.

I feel bad for guys like Grant, Finely and Barnett.

Hurricanes25
01-23-2011, 09:52 PM
Nice to see Sam Shields come up big. Anyways, good luck in the Super Bowl.

Sportsfan486
01-23-2011, 09:59 PM
I loved how DD said hes been blessed with 2 great QBs but this one got him to a superbowl.

I feel bad for guys like Grant, Finely and Barnett.

They still get a ring, don't worry. Haha.

Why feel bad for them? Who knows if we'd be here if they had started? The adversity made us a better team. They'll just have to come back next year and make sure we get there again so they can play in one!

cvv84
01-23-2011, 10:19 PM
I loved how DD said hes been blessed with 2 great QBs but this one got him to a superbowl.

I feel bad for guys like Grant, Finely and Barnett.

Just a testament to the depth and our ability to adapt.





We just faced 5 elimination games over the past 5 weeks and earned a trip to Dallas.

Eli Manning - Check
Jay Cutler - Check
Michael Vick - Check
Matt Ryan - Check
Jay Cutler/Todd Collins/Caleb Hanie - Check, check, check
Ben Roethlisberger - TDB

tjsunstein
01-23-2011, 10:34 PM
Our playoffs started in week 15 and its been nothing but incredible.

PackerLegend
01-23-2011, 10:44 PM
They still get a ring, don't worry. Haha.

Why feel bad for them? Who knows if we'd be here if they had started? The adversity made us a better team. They'll just have to come back next year and make sure we get there again so they can play in one!

While this is true it just sucks for them because you never know when your going to be back. So not being able to play in it probably kills them but im sure they are still pretty stoked.

tjsunstein
01-23-2011, 11:01 PM
I'm pretty confident that the NFC Championship Game will be the standard for the Packers for years to come.

BloodBrother
01-23-2011, 11:23 PM
Don't worry about Grant, Finley and Barnett(well, with Bishop's payday he might be on the way out)


this team is poised to be in NFCCG for years to come

J-Mike88
01-23-2011, 11:37 PM
How nice it is to beat the Bears in a game that Rodgers really played about a 'D' game for himself.... his passing on those final 2 drives was terrible, low passes in the grass on great play-action calls.... one to Quarless in the left flat and the last one to Crabtree on 3rd & 1.

Question: What happened to Walden, for Francois to be in there for the whole at least last quarter. Injury or performance? Walden had 2 sacks vs Chi LT in week 17 and I thought he'd be big again.

Can you believe Vegas has us the slight favorite over Pittsburgh?

I agree with you guys who would have rather faced the Jets.... I don't think the Jets, Ravens, Patriots, or Colts could have come close to stopping our offense in the JerryDome. But the Steelers with Polamalu can. I know Rodgers lit them up last season, in Pitt, but I don't think Polamalu was healthy that game... not sure. I have it saved on my DVR... thank God we have Sam Shields now instead of Josh Bell.

HALLELUIAH for DRIVER!
And Woodson and Clifton. The old guys.

BloodBrother
01-23-2011, 11:52 PM
I don't like that the Pack are early favorites. Doesn't really make sense. Pitt has been very impressive all year and had the better record

whatever though, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. This will be a tough game. The #1 and #2 scoring defenses going at it. Just like they say, defense wins championships, and both teams are here in big part because of their D's


Bright side is that the Pack seem to follow up poor games(like today) with good ones. Rodgers and the offense couldn't have played ANY worse than they did in that 2nd half. With how competitive Rodgers is, you know his performance today will be eating him up this week. He'll be on a mission to have a MUCH better game. Oh, and inside that Dallas dome, he'll get to wear his favorite shoes!

bigboiajhawk
01-24-2011, 12:05 AM
All I know is Arod in a dome is a very good thing. Just hope our OL can handle all of the blitz packages that the Steelers give us. I do, however, like our WR's versus the Steelers CB's.

J-Mike88
01-24-2011, 12:12 AM
Rodgers couldn't have played ANY worse than they did in that 2nd half!
To put that statement into context:

Over the Packers' final 10 possessions of the game today, Rodgers was 9 of 19 for 106 yards with 0 touchdowns, 2 interceptions and a passer rating of 25.2.

It reminded me of how he played before and after a hit to the head in Washington on a QB sneak. Greg Bedard was still with the JSOnline then, and he really thought that Rodgers suffered a concussion earlier in the game, and not just in OT on his final pass that was picked off and his head smashed helmet to helmet.

It wasn't just great Bears defense after the early part of the 2nd quarter.

Rodgers missed short simple passes badly down the stretch.... I'd like to blame something and I think he was a bit woozy from the Peppers hit. Maybe.

BloodBrother
01-24-2011, 12:32 AM
Yeah, won't lie, after that cheap hit by Peppers, Rodgers wasn't the same. They get a week off, though. I'm not worried about Rodgers.

Boston
01-24-2011, 12:32 AM
If anybody could make a gif of Cutler riding the stationary bike that would be fantastic.

umphrey
01-24-2011, 03:25 AM
If anybody could make a gif of Cutler riding the stationary bike that would be fantastic.
What size, do you have a video?

BloodBrother
01-24-2011, 03:47 AM
haha thats what I want so badly. Somebody gif that shizzz. tenyardtorrents gets the games up for you to download, I don't know how to make gifs, but I want to get a gif of that sooo badly. It made me laugh

tjsunstein
01-24-2011, 10:09 AM
I hate clicking this thread now because I enjoy looking at the title that much.

Mr.Regular
01-24-2011, 10:31 AM
Hoooooooly **** people, we're in the ************* Super Bowl! **** YES!

PROS:
-We're in the Super Bowl. Enough said.

CONS:
-How am I supposed to deal with this massive erection for two weeks?

tjsunstein
01-24-2011, 10:44 AM
Hoooooooly **** people, we're in the ************* Super Bowl! **** YES!

PROS:
-We're in the Super Bowl. Enough said.

CONS:
-How am I supposed to deal with this massive erection for two weeks?
Just let it happen. Give the 'Don't act like you're not impressed' when you get dirty looks.

TimmG6376
01-24-2011, 12:54 PM
Packers' Mike Trgovac in line for Broncos' defensive coordinator job (http://www.freep.com/article/20110123/SPORTS01/101230591/Packers-Mike-Trgovac-in-line-for-Broncos-defensive-coordinator-job)

It has begun.

TimmG6376
01-24-2011, 01:38 PM
Eagles are supposedly interested in talking to both Trgovac and Winston Moss. Greene is also listed but he only has one year of experience as a position coach so that would be a shocker IMO.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/114470039.html

J-Mike88
01-24-2011, 03:32 PM
That's always the downside to winning this much, losing a great staff.
It happened under Holmgren... lost Gruden, Mariucci, Reid, etc. What a staff that was.
I think and hope we can keep Capers around, a la D*ck LeBeau in Pittsburgh for a long time.

I want to keep Kevin Greene too.

TimmG6376
01-24-2011, 04:11 PM
I want to keep Kevin Greene too.

At first I thought he might have just been lucky. The quick success of a stud like Matthews would make a lot of coaches look good. However, this season he has shown that maybe he does have something special going on. Getting guys like Zombo and Walden to play as well as they have means something. Now TT can obviously identify talent, but Walden despite his raw talent had bounced around the league for 3 seasons playing mostly special teams and was on the street when TT came calling. He is now starting at OLB in the Super Bowl on one of the better defenses in the NFL. Greene was able to get him to play up to his potential, which is something apparently none of his previous coaches had been able to do.

And maybe he has more to do with Matthews' success than we realize.

PackerLegend
01-24-2011, 04:14 PM
Im still in shock cant believe we are actually in the SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its been a long time. Not as long as some teams but still way to long for me.

Anyways how can we have no Raji sigs or am I forgetting someone? Not only is he a beast but the guy is also pretty hilarious.

jackalope
01-24-2011, 08:24 PM
Really hope I'm wrong, but I do think Rodgers was concussed yesterday. Shouldn't be a problem for the Super Bowl, he'll be fine and I completely expect him to light it up, but it's scary to think about long term.

GB12
01-24-2011, 08:28 PM
We would have known by now if he was. With his history they had to have checked him out.

OSUGiants17
01-24-2011, 09:36 PM
Thoughts on the sig?

J-Mike88
01-24-2011, 09:37 PM
Thoughts on the sig?
Very nice, but to be honest, I still am more of a fan of your avy!
I appreciate the frisky fillies.

GB12
01-24-2011, 10:14 PM
You know what I just thought of? That TD will ensure Raji many consecutive pro bowls starting next year. He was already deserving, but now he'll have the exposure. Everyone who watches football knows who BJ Raji is after that.

trkaline
01-24-2011, 11:19 PM
Hey cheddar heads, you guys need to show Big Ben what its like to get raped... I expect to see Clay Matthews all up in that ass Superbowl Sunday.... Good luck...

Vince Lombardi
01-25-2011, 03:13 AM
How 'bout those Green Bay Packers, fellas!!!! I'm super stoked, but we've got our work cut out for us against the Steelers for sure. I plan on milking the next few weeks for all they're worth though. One thing I've learned after many years of being an avid sports fan is that these opportunities come along all too infrequently, even if it seems like you're primed to be there year after year there's no guarantees. Enjoy it fellas, the future's bright but it'll never be brighter than right now! Go! Pack! Go!

umphrey
01-25-2011, 05:24 AM
You know what I just thought of? That TD will ensure Raji many consecutive pro bowls starting next year. He was already deserving, but now he'll have the exposure. Everyone who watches football knows who BJ Raji is after that.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I like it that people are finally realizing Tramon Williams, BJ Raji, Cullen Jenkins, Josh Sitton, Sam Shields are for real.

Really hope I'm wrong, but I do think Rodgers was concussed yesterday. Shouldn't be a problem for the Super Bowl, he'll be fine and I completely expect him to light it up, but it's scary to think about long term.

That hit straight up looked like a no doubt concussion and I bet he has one, maybe minor. He's the kind of guy that would avoid the trainers and in that game you would have had to drag him off the field. He's not Jay Cutler... I can't stand watching the replay of that hit he took. Pretty much looked like he was headbutting a Cadillac going 20 MPH.

Eagles are supposedly interested in talking to both Trgovac and Winston Moss. Greene is also listed but he only has one year of experience as a position coach so that would be a shocker IMO.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/114470039.html

Trgovac and Moss might move on. Trvgovac was a DC already and a decent one at that, but I do remember him saying when he came here that he enjoyed taking a teaching position instead of co-ordinating which was more stressful and less fun for him. I hope he stays, he just has to decide what he values. Moss seems to have head coaching aspirations so I think he'll move up the ladder whenever the opportunity is there.

Greene will probably stay, he just isn't a coordinator Xs and Os kind of guy. He teaches fundamentals and technique. I don't think anyone will look at him as more than a positional coach.

It looks like Capers days as a head coach are over so I don't see him leaving GB unless we start to unravel as an organization or someone drives a dump truck full of cash to his house.

BloodBrother
01-25-2011, 06:38 AM
Packers' Mike Trgovac in line for Broncos' defensive coordinator job (http://www.freep.com/article/20110123/SPORTS01/101230591/Packers-Mike-Trgovac-in-line-for-Broncos-defensive-coordinator-job)

It has begun.

Broncos just got their D coordinator, so that crosses them off the list

Eagles look like the main threat now. Of course, other teams with these new staffs might pluck some position coaches from the Pack

Sportsfan486
01-25-2011, 07:04 AM
Really hope I'm wrong, but I do think Rodgers was concussed yesterday. Shouldn't be a problem for the Super Bowl, he'll be fine and I completely expect him to light it up, but it's scary to think about long term.

What makes you think that? Granted, it was a scary hit but he bit his tongue and was bleeding. Other than that he seemed fine.

I also loved how the Bears complained although TWO separate Bears hit him in the helmet, hard, on that play. One helmet to helmet and one bear swat.

J-Mike88
01-25-2011, 09:01 AM
What makes you think that? Granted, it was a scary hit but he bit his tongue and was bleeding. Other than that he seemed fine.
I think what makes him and many others think that is that Rodgers threw a lot of passes into the ground instead of the receivers arms. Even short 5 yard passes went 3 yards into the turf.... to Crabtree on 3rd & 1.

It wasn't the Rodgers we normally see.

The final TEN possessions/drives we had, Rodgers passer rating was 25.

That's Ryan Leaf territory, and they weren't a bunch of dropped passes. They were a lot of bad passes.
The only other time he has looked like that was in Washington, when he possibly suffered a concussion on a QB sneak midway thru the game, and after that his performance fell off.

Greg A Bedard did a good piece about that back then in week 5.

SWEET NEW ISSUE THIS WEEK. I better get that down here in Dallas dammit! I usually get screwed and get the Texas or Saints editions on these regional covers like these. We're closer to GB than Pittsburgh!

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6942/scaledphptn0server614fi.jpg

TitleTown088
01-25-2011, 11:41 AM
How 'bout those Green Bay Packers, fellas!!!! I'm super stoked, but we've got our work cut out for us against the Steelers for sure. I plan on milking the next few weeks for all they're worth though. One thing I've learned after many years of being an avid sports fan is that these opportunities come along all too infrequently, even if it seems like you're primed to be there year after year there's no guarantees. Enjoy it fellas, the future's bright but it'll never be brighter than right now! Go! Pack! Go!


Wow, long time no see.

GB12
01-25-2011, 02:45 PM
Trgovac and Moss might move on. Trvgovac was a DC already and a decent one at that, but I do remember him saying when he came here that he enjoyed taking a teaching position instead of co-ordinating which was more stressful and less fun for him. I hope he stays, he just has to decide what he values. Moss seems to have head coaching aspirations so I think he'll move up the ladder whenever the opportunity is there.Moss holds the assistant head coach title, so unless it's for a head coaching job we don't have to let other teams talk to him.

Eagles look like the main threat now. Of course, other teams with these new staffs might pluck some position coaches from the Pack
Unless it's for a promotion (eg: position coach to coordinator) I'm pretty sure they can't if the coach is still under contract.

TimmG6376
01-25-2011, 03:19 PM
http://www.ehow.com/list_6742856_nfl-rules-interviewing-assistant-coaches.html


The NFL does not differentiate between levels of assistant coaches in its rules regarding their availability to interview with other teams. Whether the coach is a defensive line coach or an offensive coordinator, the rules are the same. If a team wishes to interview an assistant coach who is still under contract with another team for its head coaching position, the current team is required to give permission for the interview as long as it happens between the end of the team's season and March 1. After March 1, teams can still ask, but the current team is not obligated to give permission.

Boston
01-25-2011, 03:21 PM
Haha, ehow was your source that kind of made me laugh. McCarthy has the final say on whether or not an assistant coach can leave if I remember correct, and he definately wouldn't let a position coach go to another team and be the same position coach.

TimmG6376
01-25-2011, 03:27 PM
It is tough to find a more official source. Tons of results on the Rooney rule. Not so much on the general rules for assistants.

TimmG6376
01-25-2011, 03:29 PM
Here is another one, but not sure it is any more reputable than eHow

http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2010/1/14/1249310/rules-pertaining-to-hiring-nfl

GB12
01-25-2011, 03:51 PM
http://www.ehow.com/list_6742856_nfl-rules-interviewing-assistant-coaches.htmlThat's to become a head coach. They actually can't talk to any assistant coaches for any position other than head coach without permission. Usually teams won't block it if it's for a promotion, although we did when the Bears wanted Tom Clements for their offensive coordinator (forgot about that earlier even though I was just talking about that on here the other day). That was because it was a division rival though. We would allow Trgovac to get another coordinator job, but there's no way we would allow another team to interview our assistants for the same position.

cvv84
01-25-2011, 04:04 PM
Moss holds the assistant head coach title, so unless it's for a head coaching job we don't have to let other teams talk to him.

Unless it's for a promotion (eg: position coach to coordinator) I'm pretty sure they can't if the coach is still under contract.

Chris Farely voice "that is correct"

Moss being the assistant HC doesn't matter though, he could still be offered a coordinators job. Also unless an assistant coach is in the final year of their contract the Packers have to grant a team permission to speak to them.

TimmG6376
01-25-2011, 04:08 PM
Yeah that was over in the Falcons offseason thread. Clements would probably be in line to be promoted to OC if someone wanted to hire Philbin, but despite the offensive success Philbin doesn't appear to have much buzz. Obviously because everyone knows McCarthy calls the plays. Would suck to lose Clements considering how well he seems to work with Rodgers. He actually had some success as an OC in Buffalo too.

umphrey
01-25-2011, 04:24 PM
No one cares about our OC because all he does is collect stats and numbers and gives them to McCarthy and Rodgers. Trgo leaving our DL would be the biggest loss that is most likely to happen, IMO.

Vince Lombardi
01-25-2011, 06:31 PM
Wow, long time no see.

I likes to show my face, errr avatar..., on occasion. :P

Unfortunately, my days are much too busy as of late to put in the effort it takes to keep up with the forum, though I do miss those good ole days. I stop in and read some ramblings/opinions on occasion, more so around draft time, before disappearing into the ether again.

The_Dude
01-25-2011, 07:42 PM
Great shirt or greatest shirt?

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq352/nerickson_photo/PackerT-Shirt.jpg

umphrey
01-25-2011, 07:47 PM
Great shirt or greatest shirt?

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq352/nerickson_photo/PackerT-Shirt.jpg
Needs poll. I'll say great in the assumption that the future will have a shirt like this but with Raji dancing all over your manly chest.

cvv84
01-25-2011, 08:01 PM
William “The Refrigerator” Perry used to hold the record for the heaviest player to score a touchdown in the postseason, having been listed at 335 pounds when he ran for a touchdown in Super Bowl XX.

But according to the Wall Street Journal, now that record belongs to Packers defensive tackle B.J. Raji, whose listed weight is 337 pounds, after Raji returned an interception for a touchdown for Green Bay on Sunday.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/25/b-j-raji-tops-the-fridge/

The legend lives on.

GB12
01-25-2011, 10:04 PM
Where can I get one of those shirts?

TitleTown088
01-25-2011, 11:21 PM
http://www.firetedthompsonnow.com/



Haha. Thompson haters are quickly vanishing.

BloodBrother
01-26-2011, 06:16 PM
That's hilarious.

Also, in some important news, Clay Matthews has signed a 1 year endorsement deal with Suave for Men. He'll be required to promote the brand pre and post superbowl and could be doing a commercial or 2. Watch out Polamalu, you got competition

CJSchneider
01-26-2011, 09:54 PM
Please win. I don't care to hear TT's **** for another year.

TitleTown088
01-27-2011, 12:12 AM
Please win. I don't care to hear TT's **** for another year.

You talkin' bout me?? ;)

J-Mike88
01-27-2011, 07:01 AM
Who's seen this?

HsKN1-w-8pM&feature=player_embedded

BloodBrother
01-27-2011, 11:20 AM
This was pretty interesting

Coach Mike McCarthy said that he was not pleased that TE Jermichael Finley and LB Nick Barnett expressed their displeasure with not being included in the original plans for a team photo on Twitter and that creating a schedule in the best interest of those at the Super Bowl was his priority.

However, after a meeting with team captains, McCarthy said that he decided to change the schedule and have the photo taken on the Friday before the Super Bowl and not the customary Tuesday.

McCarthy called it a "poor decision" by Finley and Barnett to go public with their complaints and didn't apologize for the original scheduling. He said he heard about the complaints, but didn't pay much attention to them "because of the individuals involved."

Anybody else think this will be Barnett's last year here?

GB12
01-27-2011, 11:31 AM
I don't think that's where McCarthy was going with it, though he's obviously not happy it was made into an issue. They're guys who like to talk. Barnett always goes on Jim Rome and stuff when he has the chance and does a lot of local media stuff. I don't use twitter at all, but I think Barnett is pretty big on that two. It's not like he ever says anything negative though, and this wasn't that bad. If anything it's taking a small shot at Barnett and Finley to tell them to shut up.

There's obviously a chance he won't be back, but it won't have anything to do with this or any other off field issues if there are any.

I definitely hope he is back though. I stand by that he is still the best linebacker on the roster besides Matthews.

jsa230
01-27-2011, 02:12 PM
There's obviously a chance he won't be back, but it won't have anything to do with this or any other off field issues if there are any.

I definitely hope he is back though. I stand by that he is still the best linebacker on the roster besides Matthews.

Yeah . . . i really dont understand why Barnett has been catching alot of heat lately. Really wish he was playing in the sb.

J-Mike88
01-27-2011, 02:48 PM
I think Hawk is clearly better than Barnett, and is about 4 years younger.
I have expected all along that Hawk will get an extension which makes his 2011 cap # more realistic, and Barnett gets shown the door. I see Barnett moving on.

He's just missed almost 2 full seasons in the past 3, and now he's getting old.
Age + Unavailability = Dispensable

Don't forget about Chillar coming back too.

What if the team photo has all the IR guys in white jerseys instead of green?

GB12
01-27-2011, 02:53 PM
I think Hawk is clearly better than Barnett, and is about 4 years younger. Completely disagree. Barnett last year was better than Hawk this year. The age difference definitely could be a factor though.[/quote]

What if the team photo has all the IR guys in white jerseys instead of green?
That's not the issue. The problem was that the picture was supposed to be taken on Tuesday and the IR guys aren't coming down until Thursday. Now it's been moved to

someone447
01-27-2011, 04:39 PM
That quote by McCarthy has made me lose some respect for him. Those guys on IR are part of the team. This may be the only Super Bowl team they are ever a part of. They absolutely deserve to be in the picture, and it was disrespectful to even consider not having them in it.

GB12
01-27-2011, 04:49 PM
That quote by McCarthy has made me lose some respect for him. Those guys on IR are part of the team. This may be the only Super Bowl team they are ever a part of. They absolutely deserve to be in the picture, and it was disrespectful to even consider not having them in it.

It's not like he deliberately tried to keep them out of the picture. McCarthy was concerned with getting the team ready to play and it just happened that they were scheduled for the picture before the IR players were supposed to be in Dallas.

I actually kind of like that he doesn't give a **** about the picture and is focused on the game. If you get the ring you don't need a picture to remember it.

someone447
01-27-2011, 04:57 PM
It's not like he deliberately tried to keep them out of the picture. McCarthy was concerned with getting the team ready to play and it just happened that they were scheduled for the picture before the IR players were supposed to be in Dallas.

I actually kind of like that he doesn't give a **** about the picture and is focused on the game. If you get the ring you don't need a picture to remember it.

And I didn't have a problem with McCarthy staying focused on the game, but to completely dismiss their concerns the way he did isn't right. I doubt McCarthy had much of anything to do with scheduling the picture. Once the picture got moved, that should have been the end of it. When asked he should have said, "We have rectified the situation and everyone is happy. Now let's focus on the game."

Sportsfan486
01-27-2011, 05:00 PM
Can we post complete quotes instead of ones to make people look bad, please? As seen in the rest of the quote, he clearly didn't consider the issue at first and immediately corrected it.

And what he meant by the "individuals" thing is some people spam twitter. We all have that friend. Do YOU pay attention to everything they twitter? 'cuz he's got 53 players + coaches to worry about and if you go check out their twitter feeds they post a LOT of meaningless stuff. Haha.

""It's unusual, because your initial plan is you take everybody. But you're off site -- there's a number of reasons why it was Thursday as opposed to Monday, and good reasons. Because at the end of the day, it's about getting ready for this game. It's not that they are not part of the team. They are in the photo. You want them in the photo and that's important. That part is in place. But we have to do -- we have to create the environment and the structure down there to get these players ready for this game and that's what every decision has been based on."

TitleTown088
01-27-2011, 11:54 PM
It's a stupid picture. I'm tired of hearing about it.

Boston
01-28-2011, 06:35 AM
It's a stupid picture. I'm tired of hearing about it.

Seriously, who the **** cares?

J-Mike88
01-28-2011, 06:41 AM
Well #1, glad that issue is taken care of by the middle of this week so it won't distract us down here in Dallas.

#2- it was an illogical plan (time of the photo) to begin with.... figure it out and realize the IR guys aren't gonna be there then.... they count so make sure they're in the photo.

#3- at least the IR guys care bad enough that they want to be on that team photo.

Boston
01-28-2011, 02:51 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/114813744.html

This is going to get annoying...

Whistler6
01-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Wow I've been gone too long, but what a great time to be a fan of the Packers. I won roughly $180.00 playing Roulette last night after hitting two consecutive numbers...Sadly the fella down a couple hundred wasn't digging the belt celebration and Raji dance.

TitleTown088
01-28-2011, 10:54 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v479/mattf2686/GIFs%20and%20AVYs/HHHBelt.gif

http://instntrply.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/flynnbelt.gif

BloodBrother
01-28-2011, 11:02 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/114813744.html

This is going to get annoying...

Add the Raiders as a team who also now has interest in Perry

BloodBrother
01-29-2011, 03:48 PM
this freakin picture thing will NOT die. Rodgers didn't make things any better by saying this today(shouldn't have even addressed it)

“I was on IR back in 2006,” Rodgers said. “I chose to stick around and finish out the season with my guys and be here every game. Some of those guys didn’t. And so, we love them, we care about them, we don’t wish injury on anybody, but this is a group of guys that’s really come together and has been great to work with. It’s been great to work with guys we brought in. Some of the guys who were injured, you know, they are still part of this team, but some of them didn’t choose to stick around. They’re part of this team, first and foremost.” Rodgers then added, however, “But some guys choose to rehab in other places.”

then, to make it worse, Barnett AGAIN has to go on twitter(why doesn't he freakin personally talk to Rodgers or whatever) to voice his opinion, causing MORE drama

NickBarnett
Well looks like people have something to say about where some people choose to do there rehab.. Try rehabing with 16 others then 53 more

NickBarnett
Doubt you get the full attention needed.. It's easy to speak about others when you are not in their position.. Talk about "union" ha

he eventually erased the tweets and said "Forget it...Anyway God Bless"

now he's basically saying he's done with twitter and saying goodbye to his followers, etc.

bigboiajhawk
01-29-2011, 05:01 PM
All i know is this is going to be a very interesting offseason for the Packers and the NFL.

TT has his work cut out for him.

TitleTown088
01-29-2011, 05:20 PM
Barnett needs let it go and Rodgers shouldn't have said anything about it.

princefielder28
01-29-2011, 05:25 PM
Barnett can get his ass out of town

BloodBrother
01-29-2011, 05:50 PM
I mean, Barnett does have a point. If some of those players were able to get better/more extensive rehab somewhere else, then why wouldn't they go that route? Wasn't really a fan of Rodgers comment, nor do I think he should have even said anything on this, but Barnett's response didn't help

McCarthy needs to get the team together and tell everybody to shut the **** up. Quit jabbing at eachother regarding this stupid issue

RockJock07
01-29-2011, 06:43 PM
I look at this way, the Packers are trying to create a culture and they are (right or wrong) using the media to make the case that no one person, injured or not, is above the team.

I like it because Barnett is most likely gone so there should be no lasting effect to this other then to show young players (Finley) that if you have a problem in the future talk to the captains or MM.

I really don't think its a distraction this week because Barnett and Finley aren't in GB right now while the Packers are putting together their gameplan.

What will be interesting to see is if they all make up when they meet in Dallas next week.

Rodgers probably should have said "I believe coach McCarthy has already commented on that issue." But in reality Rodgers is a captain and the face of the franchise so I'm ok with Rodgers putting Barnett in his place.

Sportsfan486
01-29-2011, 07:01 PM
I'm getting really annoyed. Dumb comment by Rodgers, he knows better. ****.

BloodBrother
01-29-2011, 07:03 PM
True, Rodgers was probably saying what a lot of others on the team were thinking. I don't even get why Barnett snapped back at Rodgers. It was reported earlier in the week that Rodgers and Woodson went to McCarthy about this photo issue. Basically what happened was guy's who decided to stay away all year(Barnett, Finley the only vocal ones) forced themselves into the conversation, forced the team to alter it's prep schedule at a time when everything should revolve around getting ready for the game.

Sportsfan486
01-29-2011, 10:42 PM
The thing is.. Rodgers is right. If you get injured and have a future with the team, you stay there and do your rehab there. These guys gave up on the season and went to "a different rehab place" that happens to be in a much more pleasant location and probably with their family. They went on vacation. And then bitched about not being included.

DESPITE THAT. IT'S SUPER BOWL WEEK. PEOPLE NEED TO STOP CREATING DRAMA. Rodgers knows that's an issue to bring up in private, not to the media and definitely not right now.

You KNOW if we lose now, the talk is going to be about how our clashing before the game screwed us up and if we're disfunctional, etc.

I just want to focus on the game and not read this ********.

J-Mike88
01-29-2011, 11:22 PM
YEAH THIS is a cluster****.
What if it gets worse next week on photo day?
What if Barnett no-shows or something and causes more of a mess?

Damn guys with big mouths.

Meanwhile not a word from AJ Hawk.... I think Hawk will be back for sure and Barnett will be sent to Tennessee or Carolina.

Sportsfan486
01-30-2011, 05:56 AM
I just want to note again, I'm really kind of bummed out about this talk and ****. Especially Rodgers, our boy, coming out and talking **** about his teammates. It's really ruined the buildup to the Super Bowl for me.

Sigh.

RockJock07
01-30-2011, 02:09 PM
Apparently Rodgers and Barnett spoke and they ironed everything out.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=6074244

J-Mike88
01-30-2011, 02:32 PM
I'm sick of that crap too.

Where have Barnett and Finley been the past 2 months anyway?
Did they hibernate down south for the winter?

BloodBrother
01-30-2011, 04:34 PM
Apparently Rodgers and Barnett spoke and they ironed everything out.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=6074244


Nice. Didn't need to be done, but the media was gonna try to have a field day with this issue so Rodgers ended it. The team are like brothers, you won't always get along with eachother but in the end they are there for eachother

cvv84
01-30-2011, 06:13 PM
Enough about the negative photo B.S.

Here's some good news:


Defensive line coach Mike Trgovac indicated that he will not leave the Packers for the opportunity for a defensive coordinator job elsewhere.

"I will do that again," Trgovac said of running his own defense. "It's just not the right time for me right now." Trgovac has been mentioned as a possibility for both the Eagles and the Cardinals.

http://gnb.scout.com/2/1044056.html

BloodBrother
01-30-2011, 06:15 PM
Definitely good news, for now. He did say he wants to do it again eventually, but in the meantime it looks like the Pack don't have to worry about him moving on.

Perry, on the other hand, looks likely to go. He's already quoted as saying he feels ready, and there is already reports of Oakland and PHilly having interest, with the CArds as a possibility as well. Winston Moss' name has come up to. We'll see how it all goes. This is part of the result of winning. As long as Dom stays though, that's what matters most

J-Mike88
01-30-2011, 06:49 PM
As long as Dom stays though, that's what matters most
I agree. Dom is the key.
D*ck Lebeau has been the constant in Pittsburgh and they always have good defenses.

I'd like to keep Trgovic and Greene though. I'd like Greene to study long enough under Capers to eventually take over as our DC for 10 years after that.

Sportsfan486
01-30-2011, 11:16 PM
I agree. Dom is the key.
D*ck Lebeau has been the constant in Pittsburgh and they always have good defenses.

I'd like to keep Trgovic and Greene though. I'd like Greene to study long enough under Capers to eventually take over as our DC for 10 years after that.

Greene is the guy I really want to stick around, he's been awesome.

As long as we have McCarthy and Dom, though, we're good.

BloodBrother
01-31-2011, 06:34 PM
Being reported that Clay Matthews has won the Defensive Player of the Year award! If so, that's back to back seasons for this defense. Awesome

TimmG6376
01-31-2011, 07:16 PM
Troy Polamalu won it by 2 votes over Clay.

Well if Clay needed any additional motivation he just got it.

BloodBrother
01-31-2011, 07:19 PM
reporters with the swing and the miss on the report that Matthews was winning it. Oh well

cvv84
01-31-2011, 07:26 PM
Turns out Clay finished 2nd. Unreal few minutes. I don't have a problem with him losing but I do with the voting.

Troy Polamalu 17
Clay Matthews 15
James Harrison 8
Julius Peppers 6
Brian Urlacher 2


Basically its what have you done for me lately. All canidates were deep playoff teams and guys like Tamba Hali and Cameron Wake didn't even receive a vote? No offense to Polamalu but I wouldn't even place him in my top 5. Pass rush creates opportunities for the secondary and its not like he had a shut down season like Woodson had last year.

GB12
01-31-2011, 08:04 PM
The AP awards are voted on before the playoffs.