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TitleTown088
03-02-2011, 11:10 PM
WTF? Is that directed at me?


In any case, reports are that Hawk has signed a 5 year deal. No details on the money yet

Yep, no surprise that he signed.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/117291658.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

GB12
03-02-2011, 11:10 PM
Hahahahaha

I created a new thread so I could shorten the poll. I just put random crap in the title and post to fulfill character requirements. I forgot to delete the post after merging.

BloodBrother
03-02-2011, 11:15 PM
Hah its cool


I'm not too upset either way regarding the Hawk deal. I think the team is good with either Hawk or Barnett paired with BIshop, but I did agree that Barnett is better paired with Bishop than Hawk is. Bishop is the hard hitter while Barnett can use his athleticism/speed more.


So, from the sounds of it, Bigby and Colledge are goners as well and so is Tauscher. Cullen Jenkins is gone to by all accounts. I think they bring Peprah back to battle with Burnett. Kuhn and Jackson....I think one of them is back. The main FA they need to focus on now is Jones, who I'm losing hope they can re-sign. I see a team offering him more money than the Pack are willing to + probably a bigger role in their offense

CheeseKnuckles
03-03-2011, 12:00 AM
It doesnt have anything to do with money. Barnett is still the best linebacker on the team behind Matthews.

How can you say this considering he hasn't been on the field much the last two seasons???

GB12
03-03-2011, 12:21 AM
How can you say this considering he hasn't been on the field much the last two seasons???

He played all of 2009, and played great. He was also very good his first five years in the league, and was playing well until he got hurt this year. Hawk meanwhile was pretty good this year, and decently average the rest of his career. Almost everyone thought he was and/or wanted him gone after this season before it started. Even after it started people didn't like him, and many wanted to trade him for Marshawn Lynch before Barnett was hurt. He had one pretty good season and now all of a sudden everyone loves him.

I know we can win with Hawk, and he is younger. It's not a terrible move, but I still wish we would have went with the better player.

J-Mike88
03-03-2011, 08:21 AM
And there it is. Good move. And he's not coming back. He can negotiate with anyone now and there will be multiple teams that will pay him more than we will. Barnett and Bishop was the right choice.
Wrong. Why so little faith in Ted Thompson? And Dom Capers, Mike McCarthy, Winston Moss? They know what they're doing.

You gotta look past the flash and headlines and trash-talk sometimes.... film evaluation clearly showed that Hawk has graded out well for the past 3-4 years, and has actually been improving, which is what you want in your players. He's just entering his prime, whereas Barnett's 30 and his best days are behind him.

Easy decision here, have faith in Ted, Mike & Dom.

He played all of 2009, and played great. He was also very good his first five years in the league, and was playing well until he got hurt this year. Hawk meanwhile was pretty good this year, and decently average the rest of his career.

He had one pretty good season and now all of a sudden everyone loves him.

I know we can win with Hawk, and he is younger. It's not a terrible move, but I still wish we would have went with the better player.
The casual, less-educated fan who is expecting flash and fireworks and game-changing plays may have thought Hawk was just "average". All along he was solid and did what was asked of him.

All along I expected and hoped we'd go with the better player Hawk, plus he's younger, is still improving (unlike Barnett), and he's not a diva like Barnett is. Barnett: don't ***** about things on twitter. Don't play the race card about your night club, etc.

Very happy Hawk & Bishop will be back.

TitleTown088
03-03-2011, 08:33 AM
Wrong. Why so little faith in Ted Thompson? And Dom Capers, Mike McCarthy, Winston Moss? They know what they're doing.


Well, he is entitled to his own opinion.

My deal with Barnett is his health. Has he just been unfortunate, or is it going to be a repeating pattern at this stage in his career?

J-Mike88
03-03-2011, 08:40 AM
Well, he is entitled to his own opinion.

My deal with Barnett is his health. Has he just been unfortunate, or is it going to be a repeating pattern at this stage in his career?
Yes everyone is entitled to their own opinions and all of us are wrong with ours at times.
I was way wrong about Tramon Williams, never thought he'd be able to get this good.
But once we locked up Bishop, choosing to go forward with Hawk over Barnett is an easy call, has been for awhile, and it seems most of us saw that.

Performance, slight edge to Hawk.
Improvement, slight edge to Hawk.
Durability, so far huge edge to Hawk.
Age, big edge to Hawk.
Personality, big edge to Hawk.

BloodBrother
03-03-2011, 08:57 AM
I didn't favor one over the other too strongly, but felt that with how the Packers work....they'd favor Hawk over Barnett. Said taht I wouldn't doubt that they see Hawk as a better leader on the defense over Barnett, and they probably don't like Barnett's twitter crap. Not to mention you got McCarthy preaching about accountability and availability and Hawk has been "available" for his entire career. Came say the same for Barnett the last few seasons

pure speculation on my part, but HAwk seemed like a guy they would choose over Barnett, and it looks like they did. I fully expect his deal to pay him similar to what Barnett will be getting, which will just further the point that Barnett is probably gone

J-Mike88
03-03-2011, 11:38 AM
....they probably don't like Barnett's twitter crap. .....which will just further the point that Barnett is probably gone

What do you guys think we can get if we trade Barnett?
Who here expects him to be outright released?


If I had to bet, I'd bet that we eventually release him and get nothing for him. I'd love to get a 3rd round pick for him, but would never expect anyone to cough up more than a 4th for him at this point in time (again, that's if the CBA mess is fixed even).

BloodBrother
03-03-2011, 12:02 PM
Yup...can't trade him unless they have a new CBA. Pretty sure they will look to try and deal him, though. Might not get more than a 4th, though


also, Hawk's deal is apparently between 6-7 million per year with 10 million guaranteed.

Zycho32
03-03-2011, 01:16 PM
If I remember correctly, isn't Barnett against moving to the outside- or at least he was against it back when the team still ran the 4-3?

Is his skill-set worthwhile as a 3-4 OLB IF he consents to the idea?

This bit is just pipe dreams on my part, but it WOULD potentially solve one of the bigger questions this team has if Barnett could concievably fill the outside role alongside Clay.

umphrey
03-03-2011, 01:38 PM
Apparently Daryn Colledge was tendered

J-Mike88
03-03-2011, 01:38 PM
If I remember correctly, isn't Barnett against moving to the outside- or at least he was against it back when the team still ran the 4-3?

Is his skill-set worthwhile as a 3-4 OLB IF he consents to the idea?

This bit is just pipe dreams on my part, but it WOULD potentially solve one of the bigger questions this team has if Barnett could concievably fill the outside role alongside Clay.i like the way u think zycho!

TimmG6376
03-03-2011, 01:48 PM
If I remember correctly, isn't Barnett against moving to the outside- or at least he was against it back when the team still ran the 4-3?

Is his skill-set worthwhile as a 3-4 OLB IF he consents to the idea?

This bit is just pipe dreams on my part, but it WOULD potentially solve one of the bigger questions this team has if Barnett could concievably fill the outside role alongside Clay.

Too small for 3-4 OLB. And yes he was vocal about his reluctance to move the the outside in the 4-3 when we ran it. After we drafted Hawk there was discussion (in the media) about whether Hawk would fit better inside and Barnett would move outside. Barnett basically said he was a MLB and wasn't going to move. With that bit of insight into his personality plus his inability to refrain from tweeting about every issue he has with the front office, I think we have a pretty good idea why Hawk is the choice. I've read Hawk referred to as a "glue guy" and he really seemed to thrive in the leadership role he took on after Barnett was injured.

Sportsfan486
03-03-2011, 03:08 PM
Too small for 3-4 OLB. And yes he was vocal about his reluctance to move the the outside in the 4-3 when we ran it. After we drafted Hawk there was discussion (in the media) about whether Hawk would fit better inside and Barnett would move outside. Barnett basically said he was a MLB and wasn't going to move. With that bit of insight into his personality plus his inability to refrain from tweeting about every issue he has with the front office, I think we have a pretty good idea why Hawk is the choice. I've read Hawk referred to as a "glue guy" and he really seemed to thrive in the leadership role he took on after Barnett was injured.

I really like Hawk's attitude and that's been one of the main reasons I wanted to keep him. If you go and watch all his interviews he's just a classy guy that legitimately wants to be a Packer for life.

Also, I loved Barnett in a 4-3 but he's just not that good of fit for a 3-4 IMO. And his attitude clearly isn't the Packer mentality. Sure, you could say that to Finley to a degree as well but Finley is a potential all-pro and is still really young. Barnett isn't even a potential pro-bowl alternate in our current scheme and with our current players, imo, and he's a veteran. He should know better.

Barnett is probably better as a playmaker but we have really gotten torn apart by TEs when he's started and I don't feel like he's as disciplined of a player. Bishop can make tackles. Matthews can make sacks. Hawk gives us that fundamental guy back there that will maintain his assignment and get it done. He might give up 9 yards on a 3rd and ten by sitting in a cover zone but he'll sit right at that marker and bring them down short. Barnett might get a pick or he might miss a tackle. We've got playmakers, we need consistency.

I have no problem dealing Barnett and would honestly rather see us cut him then let him become a cancer in the locker room when he's our #3 ILB.

BloodBrother
03-03-2011, 03:31 PM
Apparently Daryn Colledge was tendered

So was Crosby. Only names I've seen so far, though...

RyanBraun8
03-03-2011, 05:29 PM
To me, Hawk over Barnett. Hawk is just consistant. You know every play he will get his job done.... Barnett is a great player but outside of injuries he still has major issues of getting of blocks and over pursuing. He will make more big plays but also make more mistakes. I prefer a guy like Hawk that is dependable, may not wow you but is just solid. That is my opinion

TitleTown088
03-03-2011, 09:03 PM
Performance, slight edge to Hawk.
Improvement, slight edge to Hawk.
Durability, so far huge edge to Hawk.
Age, big edge to Hawk.
Personality, big edge to Hawk.

Those are opinions of a layman for the most part, and very debatable opinions at that.

J-Mike88
03-03-2011, 09:58 PM
Those are opinions of a layman for the most part, and very debatable opinions at that.
Everything is debatable, but I don't think many people could make cases for any of them being wrong. I side with Packer management on this one.

PACKmanN
03-03-2011, 10:09 PM
since when did Hawk become mr.consistent and this great LBer? this was finally the year he put it all together...

Sportsfan486
03-03-2011, 10:18 PM
since when did Hawk become mr.consistent and this great LBer? this was finally the year he put it all together...

I think you answered your own question.. this year.

Also, no one is claiming he's a great LBer. We're claiming he's a good and consistent LBer and with our other defensive playmakers that's all we need.

It is kind of sad, though, when you go back to the draft and he was being talked about as an Urlacher or Lewis type of guy. He never turned into that at all. Can you only imagine our defense if he had?

PACKmanN
03-03-2011, 11:01 PM
I think you answered your own question.. this year.

Also, no one is claiming he's a great LBer. We're claiming he's a good and consistent LBer and with our other defensive playmakers that's all we need.

It is kind of sad, though, when you go back to the draft and he was being talked about as an Urlacher or Lewis type of guy. He never turned into that at all. Can you only imagine our defense if he had?
I like to go back on the comment where i wrote he finally put it all together and say;

i didn't answer myself; this was his only year where as you can look back and say he finally lived up to some sort of the expectations he had coming in, and he didn't live to many of them this year. So for him to be consistent, he had to had done it longer than 1 season.

He's never had 2, or more, good years in a row, so i don't know where this consistent talk came from. Not only that, but TEs continued to work havoc onto the defense throughout the year.

Also, everyone says Hawk improved this year, but no one is discussing what exactly he improved on...Barnett and Hawk are exactly similar in the game, but I would take the cheaper route.

Sportsfan486
03-04-2011, 01:46 AM
I like to go back on the comment where i wrote he finally put it all together and say;

i didn't answer myself; this was his only year where as you can look back and say he finally lived up to some sort of the expectations he had coming in, and he didn't live to many of them this year. So for him to be consistent, he had to had done it longer than 1 season.

He's never had 2, or more, good years in a row, so i don't know where this consistent talk came from. Not only that, but TEs continued to work havoc onto the defense throughout the year.

Also, everyone says Hawk improved this year, but no one is discussing what exactly he improved on...Barnett and Hawk are exactly similar in the game, but I would take the cheaper route.

Eh, you're only as good as what you've done lately. Hawk was consistent in all the games he played last year, more or less.

Would I ever claim he's a great LBer? No.
Did he get overpaid? Yeah.
Is he a good fit for the defense? Yup.

Barnett wasn't here. The defense played superbly this year and Hawk was a captain. He was a leader out there. Their skills might be equal but Hawk is more of the character guy we want. We all know Barnett whines. He won't move to the outside, he twitters, throws tantrums, etc. Plus Hawk stays healthy. That alone is worth a lot.

RyanBraun8
03-04-2011, 01:59 PM
The major issue in Hawks game was coverage and he improved greatly. He has always been consistant in the run game. The guys is just a hard working, durable, solid player. Nothing great but nothing bad. I will take a whole team of hard working guys who fit a scheme and will do their job play in and play out and that is what he does. He is reliable and durable. Barnett is talented but the guy has missed half of the games over the past 3 years and he is getting no younger. He makes big plays but he gets in bad position a lot also. I have always really liked Nick but Bishop is just as good and younger and Hawk is much more reliable.

J-Mike88
03-04-2011, 04:50 PM
Good news:

Adam Caplan of Fox Sports reports the Green Bay Packers have reached a two-year agreement with safety Charlie Peprah, who would have become an unrestricted free agent. Peprah started 11 games last season after rookie Morgan Burnett suffered a season-ending knee injury.

I would imagine the Peprah/Burnett combination in 2011 would make safety Atari Bigby expendable.

bigboiajhawk
03-04-2011, 05:06 PM
Guys I have thought of something that will solve the logjam at ILB and the probable departure of Cullen Jenkins. Dom Capers has been working on his new defense the 2-5-4.

Raji-Pickett

Walden-Bishop-Hawk-Barnett-Matthews

Woodson-Collins-Peprah-Williams


Problem solved!!!

jackalope
03-04-2011, 05:15 PM
Peprah back is great news. Two years seems like the right lenght. Burnett is the long term starter, but if Peprah can outplay him in the preseason, let him keep the job. Burnett can probably serve as a pretty decent dimeback for the time being.

drowe
03-06-2011, 10:41 PM
Well...it has now been 1 month since our team won the Super Bowl. And strangely, our team has been off the front page for about 3 weeks due to our crapweasel governor. gah.

but, really...time flies. Our year as World Champs is 1/12th over. Crazy.

RyanBraun8
03-07-2011, 09:36 AM
Our year as World Champs is 1/12th over. Crazy.

You mean 1/12 of the way until our next one right?! ;) ha

J-Mike88
03-07-2011, 10:15 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/07/brandon-jackson-was-tendered-a-contract-too/

Earlier this morning, we passed along news that Packers wide receiver James Jones was tendered a one-year contract as a potential restricted free agent, despite a previous report the contrary.

A league source informs PFT that Packers running back Brandon Jackson was also given a RFA tag, despite a report to the contrary. (Yes, it was the same report as Jones.) Jackson’s tender was at the third-round level of compensation.

The tag on Jackson protects the Packers just in case players with four years of experience are not unrestricted free agents after a new CBA is reach. That scenario is viewed as unlikely.

A return to Green Bay for Jackson would not be a surprise, no matter what his status is. He may have more value to the Packers as a third-down specialist than he has anywhere else.

RyanBraun8
03-08-2011, 09:40 AM
Little disappointed, I would prefer to draft a homerun threat who can catch out of the backfield and make something happen but Jackson is solid. He will catch the ball and make great blocks. Will never be a threat but does enough to help team win. With Starks and Grant he won't have to carry the ball to much so that is a plus.

bigboiajhawk
03-08-2011, 02:40 PM
If I were a team, I think I would give up a 3rd rounder for James Jones. James Jones at the very least is a #2 WR on all teams. A 3rd round pick for a #2 WR is pretty good value.

GB12
03-08-2011, 03:36 PM
You guys know those won't mean anything once there's a new CBA, right?

J-Mike88
03-08-2011, 09:53 PM
You guys know those won't mean anything once there's a new CBA, right?The tag on Jackson protects the Packers just in case players with four years of experience are not unrestricted free agents after a new CBA is reach. That scenario is viewed as unlikely.
I still think both guys will be back with us. Looks like we are sacrificing the big ticket $ Cullen Jenkins, to pretty much keep everyone else (other than Barnett).

We won't miss Barnett (barring injuries to Hawk and Bishop), but I'm afraid we'll really miss Jenkins. Hopefully he takes a Lombardi discount and stays.

BloodBrother
03-10-2011, 03:17 PM
Not surprising, but McCarthy confirms that the starters are Hawk/Bishop (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/117738113.html?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)

"I hope so," he said. "That’s up to the players. If he plays the way he did this year there’s no reason he shouldn’t be (a three-down player). (Desmond) Bishop played very well, too. We line up tomorrow, it’s A.J. and Bishop, and that’s the way we finished."

Asked where that leaves Barnett, McCarthy said it depends on how he comes back from wrist surgery.

"We have to see how he comes off the wrist," McCarthy said. "Same thing with Chillar. That’s his third shoulder surgery. You know how these things go. I'm glad we aren’t playing this week. The season we had, I spent too much time with the doctors."

GB12
03-11-2011, 07:07 PM
So there are reports that free agency could start before a new CBA. As Packer fans we should be rooting hard for that to happen. That would keep the RFA tenders intact, and we could keep Jones, Colledge, Jackson, and Crosby for another year without giving them a long term contract. That'd be awesome.

J-Mike88
03-11-2011, 10:41 PM
So there are reports that free agency could start before a new CBA. As Packer fans we should be rooting hard for that to happen. That would keep the RFA tenders intact, and we could keep Jones, Colledge, Jackson, and Crosby for another year without giving them a long term contract. That'd be awesome.
Right, plus we're not FA shoppers anyway, so bring it on.

cvv84
03-12-2011, 05:08 PM
Well...it has now been 1 month since our team won the Super Bowl. And strangely, our team has been off the front page for about 3 weeks due to our crapweasel governor. gah.

but, really...time flies. Our year as World Champs is 1/12th over. Crazy.

Crazy that it's been tarnished with the Superbowl seating and CBA issues.

J-Mike88
03-15-2011, 11:31 AM
Enjoy them all again!

fP660Wm177w

Hawk
03-20-2011, 07:41 PM
I ran into former Green Bay special teams coach Frank Novak on spring break. He was a really cool old man and still reps his Green Bay spirit.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2larpcx.jpg

J-Mike88
03-20-2011, 08:07 PM
I ran into former Green Bay special teams coach Frank Novak on spring break. He was a really cool old man and still reps his Green Bay spirit.
NICE!
+rep for still posting here!

Hawk
03-20-2011, 08:15 PM
NICE!
+rep for still posting here!

Well that was like last Thursday, I just got back haha

J-Mike88
03-21-2011, 07:30 PM
Well that was like last Thursday, I just got back haha
haha.... hey, while you're here, THIS never gets old.
It's special..... just like this season was.

K8DHrLq9-qw

Enjoy fellas.

BloodBrother
03-25-2011, 01:33 PM
Johnny Jolly was arrested again today....*facepalm*

Jolly arrested for possession of Codeine and driving with a suspended license (http://houston.cbslocal.com/2011/03/25/johnny-jolly-charged-with-possession-again/)

Houston police stopped Jolly’s Escalade for a traffic violation at 12:45 a.m. on the 9900 block of Westpark. Jolly presented a state identification card rather than a driver’s license, and police learned that his license is suspended and is not eligible for renewal.

While searching the vehicle, police discovered that Jolly was in possession of 600 grams of Codeine, which is a felony charge. Police also discovered another unidentified substance, which has been sent in for testing.

Well, DE just got even thinner. Jenkins is likely gone and now Jolly's NFL career is probably over(or at least his career with the Packers) Cannot believe he did this **** again. What a complete moron

Boston
03-25-2011, 02:28 PM
http://www.awesometoast.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/tactical_facepalm.jpg

tjsunstein
03-25-2011, 04:34 PM
**** you Johnny Jolly. He just doesn't deserve it now.

PackerLegend
03-25-2011, 08:17 PM
Well I had hopes he could straighten himself out. He was pretty good at times. Atleast it comes out now that he still hasnt learned instead of later and potentially dumping someone for him

J-Mike88
03-25-2011, 08:37 PM
He is who he is. He belongs on the streets, in the ghetto, no matter how much money he has.... he be who he be.

Maybe now we'll pony up to keep Cullen, who AINT A STUPID THUG.
And who can get to a QB.

drowe
03-26-2011, 06:25 AM
Johnny Jolly should just be euthanized.

Seriously. One decent year, and he could've signed a nice contract worth somewhere in the 7 digits. Now, he'll be extremely lucky to ever play football again.

Getting caught was literally the difference between being a millionaire and being in poverty for the rest of his life.

Hell, he should probably just focus on drug dealing because that's probably his best chance at success now.

J-Mike88
03-26-2011, 07:51 AM
Johnny Jolly should just be euthanized.

Getting caught was literally the difference between being a millionaire and being in poverty for the rest of his life.
^ This ^

In fairness, Jolly belongs on the street moreso than in Green Bay as a Packer. Being a Packer is a privilege and this guy has blown it again.... he lost my faith when the idiot committed the late hit personal foul ghetto penalty against the Vikings in Green Bay in 2009 when we had finally stopped them on a 3rd down conversion.

umphrey
03-26-2011, 04:47 PM
Jolly is probably going to prison for awhile so that's probably more on his mind than the lost money. He was facing like 10 years and a felony charge the first time. This time I would expect a minimum 1 year sentence to actually materialize.

cvv84
03-28-2011, 07:28 PM
Throwing away millions of dollars playing a game for a life of running a drug cartel? Hard to even imagine what is going on in that guys head. Very good football player, incredibly stupid human being. Good luck in prison Jolly.

J-Mike88
03-28-2011, 08:27 PM
Throwing away millions of dollars playing a game for a life of running a drug cartel? Hard to even imagine what is going on in that guys head. Very good football player, incredibly stupid human being. Good luck in prison Jolly.
Very well said.
Luckily, our brains are nothing like Jolly's brain. His apparently, is not yet fully developed.

J-Mike88
03-29-2011, 09:48 AM
3Oefl29SiTE#

umphrey
04-04-2011, 01:21 AM
Gotta love Brian Bulaga and Mike Neal. They sound like 10 year starters the way they approach the game.

nklhnp0gxaA

Has it been a month and a half since Super Bowl 45 or a year? Seems like the latter.

pPLbiROT220

bigboiajhawk
04-28-2011, 11:25 PM
Reggie bush tweeted, "Its been fun New Orleans" I remember articles saying TT was trying really hard to trade up for Bush. I wonder if he would be an addition to the Packers? I mean we are in need of a returner and he would really make our offense more explosive. Probably too expensive, but thought provoking.

J-Mike88
04-28-2011, 11:34 PM
Reggie bush tweeted, "Its been fun New Orleans" I remember articles saying TT was trying really hard to trade up for Bush. I wonder if he would be an addition to the Packers? I mean we are in need of a returner and he would really make our offense more explosive. Probably too expensive, but thought provoking.
How ironic would that be (and exciting as f**** h***) for Reggie Bush to be facing the Saints in the NFL Kickoff game, Thursday night September 8th in Lambeau Field!!!

johbur
04-28-2011, 11:42 PM
Reggie bush tweeted, "Its been fun New Orleans" I remember articles saying TT was trying really hard to trade up for Bush. I wonder if he would be an addition to the Packers? I mean we are in need of a returner and he would really make our offense more explosive. Probably too expensive, but thought provoking.

I'd love Bush in GB. He'd be worth the money for upgrading the return game, if nothing else. And of course his value with GB would be his swing out threat and keeping safeties from being able to go over the top on 3rd down and having to cover him rather than Jennings or Nelson. He'd upgrade the RB corp, he'd vastly upgrade the return game and he'd draw coverage away from the receivers. How'd A-Rod like surveying the field and doing progressions with Jennings, Nelson, Finley and Bush out there?

cvv84
04-29-2011, 04:55 PM
I can't see Bush wanting to come to GB. Our weather doesn't help his game. I could see the Chargers going after him and keeping him near his hometown and giving them a nice compliment to Matthews.

Vince Lombardi
04-29-2011, 09:03 PM
Randall Cobb will be a superior NFL player than Reggie Bush (then again most are).

johbur
05-01-2011, 07:02 AM
Cobb is a heckuva pick. How did he make it to 64? He'll be the #3 QB, he'll be the new holder, he can run the wildcat, he can throw HB/WR option passes, he'll be a threat with end-arounds and also with between-the-tackles running from WR, he can show as a WR and then shift into the backfield or vice verse, he's automatically the #1 PR/KR until he shows otherwise, and oh yeah, he's a pretty darn good receiver with mad game after the catch.

On the NFL landscape, only Josh Cribbs seems to have Cobbs' skills.

cvv84
05-01-2011, 12:18 PM
Cobb is a heckuva pick. How did he make it to 64? He'll be the #3 QB, he'll be the new holder, he can run the wildcat, he can throw HB/WR option passes, he'll be a threat with end-arounds and also with between-the-tackles running from WR, he can show as a WR and then shift into the backfield or vice verse, he's automatically the #1 PR/KR until he shows otherwise, and oh yeah, he's a pretty darn good receiver with mad game after the catch.

On the NFL landscape, only Josh Cribbs seems to have Cobbs' skills.

They called it the WildCobb at Kentucky. Hard to believe that this kid isn't even 21 years old yet.

SuperPacker
05-01-2011, 12:27 PM
Bush is set to make 11million next year. Dont think TT is gonna get him

cuzifelt1ikeit
05-01-2011, 12:47 PM
Bush is set to make 11million next year. Dont think TT is gonna get him

yeah but thats what the saints owe him. if he gets cut we can offer him a contract for whatever amount we want.

SuperPacker
05-01-2011, 12:57 PM
They wont cut him, they will want to trade him. Surely? And if he does get cut hes gonna want money near that amount. Cant see him coming for 5million a year.

PackerLegend
05-01-2011, 01:21 PM
So now when free agency starts if we ever get to that point who would you like the Packers to resign... and who would you like the Packers to go out and get.

umphrey
05-01-2011, 01:39 PM
They wont cut him, they will want to trade him. Surely? And if he does get cut hes gonna want money near that amount. Cant see him coming for 5million a year.
With the amount of money left on his contract he is worse less than zero compensation in a trade

SuperPacker
05-01-2011, 01:48 PM
With the amount of money left on his contract he is worse less than zero compensation in a trade

oh, how long has he got left on his contract?

cuzifelt1ikeit
05-01-2011, 01:49 PM
oh, how long has he got left on his contract?

1 year i think

SuperPacker
05-01-2011, 01:50 PM
So now when free agency starts if we ever get to that point who would you like the Packers to resign... and who would you like the Packers to go out and get.

I would like us to resign Cullen Jenkins but i heard the Bears are making Jenkins their top priority. So they will probably pay more then TT.

As for FA's i dont really think TT will get any. He hasnt shown in the past that he likes to go out and get good FA's so why change his philosohy?

SuperPacker
05-01-2011, 01:52 PM
1 year i think

Oh, anyways i dont think TT would offer him the sort of money he would demand. Especially as we just got Green as our 3DRB

cuzifelt1ikeit
05-01-2011, 02:05 PM
Oh, anyways i dont think TT would offer him the sort of money he would demand. Especially as we just got Green as our 3DRB

its always fun to dream though

cvv84
05-01-2011, 02:42 PM
EDIT: Moved to roster thread

Vince Lombardi
05-01-2011, 04:12 PM
So now when free agency starts if we ever get to that point who would you like the Packers to resign... and who would you like the Packers to go out and get.

Nnamdi Asomugha!

Yes it's a pipe dream, but I can dream nonetheless. Think Woodson & Collins at safety, Williams, Asomugha, and Shields locking down the top three CB positions. :drool:

More realistically, Cullen Jenkins is the obvious choice. Though I think Jenkins is feeling a bit butthurt about TT not breaking the bank for him already and is more likely to bolt for the biggest contract offer, which will almost certainly not be from GB, than he is to give us a hometown discount.

SuperPacker
05-01-2011, 04:15 PM
Nnamdi Asomugha!

Yes it's a pipe dream, but I can dream nonetheless. Think Woodson & Collins at safety, Williams, Asomugha, and Shields locking down the top three CB positions. :drool:

More realistically, Cullen Jenkins is the obvious choice. Though I think Jenkins is feeling a bit butthurt about TT not breaking the bank for him already and is more likely to bolt for the biggest contract offer, which will almost certainly not be from GB, than he is to give us a hometown discount.

OMG if we got Nnamdi. We would have 3 of the top 5 corners in the league!
Never gonna happen though unless he wants to take the biggest pay cut in nfl history :D

BloodBrother
05-01-2011, 04:22 PM
So now when free agency starts if we ever get to that point who would you like the Packers to resign... and who would you like the Packers to go out and get.

Since TT doesn't really dabble into the FA pool much, I'll just focus on the Packers FA to be

After this draft, I'd say the only guys who have a shot to be re-signed would be Cullen Jenkins(he'd be the main target for them obv) and either Kuhn or Jackson. Korey Hall, James Jones, and Colledge are likely gone for sure

umphrey
05-01-2011, 04:28 PM
Nnamdi Asomugha!

Yes it's a pipe dream, but I can dream nonetheless. Think Woodson & Collins at safety, Williams, Asomugha, and Shields locking down the top three CB positions. :drool:

More realistically, Cullen Jenkins is the obvious choice. Though I think Jenkins is feeling a bit butthurt about TT not breaking the bank for him already and is more likely to bolt for the biggest contract offer, which will almost certainly not be from GB, than he is to give us a hometown discount.
Cullen Jenkins on Twitter sounds more than a little sore about not getting a contract yet. I don't think he'll be back.

Vince Lombardi
05-01-2011, 05:06 PM
OMG if we got Nnamdi. We would have 3 of the top 5 corners in the league!
Never gonna happen though unless he wants to take the biggest pay cut in nfl history :D

Yea, no way we'd be able to compete with other contract offers that will be thrown his way. I know him and Woodson remain close from their time together with the Raiders - Nnamdi often likens Woodson to his big brother - but I don't think that will get us a big enough discount to make signing him a reality. It's fun to think about though!

@ umphrey, I agree with you, though crazier things have happened, I don't think he has any plans of coming back.

BloodBrother
05-01-2011, 05:13 PM
Cullen Jenkins on Twitter sounds more than a little sore about not getting a contract yet. I don't think he'll be back.

That's not what I got from his twitter stuff. In fact, I never realized how funny he was until I saw his twitter. The guy is just cracking jokes constantly. I wouldn't look too much into what he says on that since he seems to just be screwing around

SuperPacker
05-02-2011, 01:39 AM
Mike neal played really well untill he got injured so i dont think we will miss Cullen Jenkins next season anyway.

umphrey
05-02-2011, 02:27 PM
Dom Capers: Sam Shields played close to 800 plays for us last year

That's 50 a game. For reference most teams want to get 65 snaps on offense, but don't always get there.

SuperPacker
05-02-2011, 02:47 PM
Dom Capers: Sam Shields played close to 800 plays for us last year

That's 50 a game. For reference most teams want to get 65 snaps on offense, but don't always get there.

Yeah, i reckon Sam Shields is a stud. Hes only played one year as a corner so his potential is unlimited. Heard it here first, Future Hall of Fame.

PackerLegend
05-02-2011, 04:24 PM
Randall Cobb via twitter

Green and yellow green and yellow!!!!! Uh huh u know what it is!!!!!!




How crazy is this.... This was taken the day I got back from the combine

That quote goes with the picture below... It was always meant to be, this was the day after the scouting combine!

http://i53.tinypic.com/2q0m2z7.jpg

hoekd0250
05-02-2011, 06:21 PM
Im so excited by some of the camp battles we will have
RB-2nd string Starks Vs. Green
TE-2nd string Quarless vs. Crabtree
WR-starting Driver Vs. Nelson
LG-Lang vs. Schelephoff-who ever that olineman we drafted
OLb-Zombo Vs Walden Vs Jones
Safety Burnett vs. peprah
and also bigby vs. underwood vs. bush

We have a lot of competition and its great it will make sure some of these players dont slack during camp thinking that they are already great because they are superbowl champs. We are going to truely let go of some great players when we have to make cuts.

Winners will be starks-2nd string green-3rd string
crabtree-2nd quarless3rd nelson-1st driver-3rd or slot lang-starter schlaughoff-2nd zombo starter walden 2nd jones 2nd behing clay burnett starter peprah 2nd behind both safetys bigby-cut underwood-cut bush-possibly 3rd string or cut????

CheeseKnuckles
05-02-2011, 08:15 PM
I have that same shirt Cobb is wearing.

johbur
05-03-2011, 01:51 AM
Im so excited by some of the camp battles we will have
RB-2nd string Starks Vs. Green
TE-2nd string Quarless vs. Crabtree
WR-starting Driver Vs. Nelson
LG-Lang vs. Schelephoff-who ever that olineman we drafted
OLb-Zombo Vs Walden Vs Jones
Safety Burnett vs. peprah
and also bigby vs. underwood vs. bush

We have a lot of competition and its great it will make sure some of these players dont slack during camp thinking that they are already great because they are superbowl champs. We are going to truely let go of some great players when we have to make cuts.

Winners will be starks-2nd string green-3rd string
crabtree-2nd quarless3rd nelson-1st driver-3rd or slot lang-starter schlaughoff-2nd zombo starter walden 2nd jones 2nd behing clay burnett starter peprah 2nd behind both safetys bigby-cut underwood-cut bush-possibly 3rd string or cut????

Missing Elmore in the OLB competition, DJ Williams in the TE competition. O-Line also going to have a competition with Tauscher (likely out), Sherrod, Bulaga and College for RT and maybe LG. FB also could have some competition based on if Kuhn and Hall come back or if they get signed elsewhere.

J-Mike88
05-03-2011, 07:54 PM
Missing Elmore in the OLB competition, DJ Williams in the TE competition. O-Line also going to have a competition with Tauscher (likely out), Sherrod, Bulaga and College for RT and maybe LG. FB also could have some competition based on if Kuhn and Hall come back or if they get signed elsewhere.
Also, I don't think the #1 RB is settled and a given for Ryan Grant. Number one, and this is the big one, you can never assume he will be the same following a broken bone in the wheel.
#2- they really like Starks.

CheeseKnuckles
05-03-2011, 09:52 PM
Also, I don't think the #1 RB is settled and a given for Ryan Grant. Number one, and this is the big one, you can never assume he will be the same following a broken bone in the wheel.
#2- they really like Starks.


To be honest I don't think it is a gurantee Grant will even be on the team. I mean if it was me I would want to keep him around, but he is due a decent sized bonus this year and teams seem to be cutting players who are due those bigger bonuses. IMO he would have already been cut if this were the case, but I just thought I would throw it out there.

BloodBrother
05-04-2011, 12:10 PM
Good point. Alex Green could have been drafted to replace Grant and not Jackson and the RB corps would be Starks/Green/Jackson(obviously they re-sign him). Definitely can't rule that out as a possibility

SuperPacker
05-04-2011, 03:52 PM
I wouldnt mind if we did get rid of Grant. It is pointless paying him starter money when hes not gonna be taking every snap. Also we have Starks and Green who are both young so i dont think it would be a massive loss.

J-Mike88
05-04-2011, 05:07 PM
I would only be in favor of parting with Grant and his $contract$ if it meant freeing up enough $ that we were able to keep Cullen Jenkins.

cvv84
05-04-2011, 05:13 PM
You guys are crazy. Grant will definetly be back but Starks is going to get more carries this year. I'd say it'll be a 80/20 in favor of Grant at the moment.

Green is just that, green. You can't expect much this year from him, especially considering he's coming from a spead offense and has had problems with fumbling.

Grant is proven and Starks needs to prove he can stay healthy. Anything Green gives us is a bonus IMO. Next year is another situation but there's no chance that we just cut Grant and roll with 2 big question marks at RB.

Coombser
05-04-2011, 07:33 PM
Im so excited by some of the camp battles we will have
RB-2nd string Starks Vs. Green
TE-2nd string Quarless vs. Crabtree
WR-starting Driver Vs. Nelson
LG-Lang vs. Schelephoff-who ever that olineman we drafted
OLb-Zombo Vs Walden Vs Jones
Safety Burnett vs. peprah
and also bigby vs. underwood vs. bush

We have a lot of competition and its great it will make sure some of these players dont slack during camp thinking that they are already great because they are superbowl champs. We are going to truely let go of some great players when we have to make cuts.

Winners will be starks-2nd string green-3rd string
crabtree-2nd quarless3rd nelson-1st driver-3rd or slot lang-starter schlaughoff-2nd zombo starter walden 2nd jones 2nd behing clay burnett starter peprah 2nd behind both safetys bigby-cut underwood-cut bush-possibly 3rd string or cut????


I think both Burnett and Peprah will see significant time - they both bring different skillsets to the table.

I think Nelson's post-season play has cemented him in the number 2 WR role on offense - as much as that means, which is not a lot considering how much we spread it around...Driver will still see time, but it would be somewhat surprising if they relied on a guy who's older than old and is starting to get consistently hurt...

I think they'll keep Quarless, Crabtree and Williams and possibly Taylor - I think this is the end of the road for Korey Hall, who although he's a very good lead blocker is never healthy, and Quinn Johnson who's shown no ability to get to grips with the playbook despite clear flashes of ability.

Words I never thought I'd say - we must keep Jarrett Bush, the guy is a demon on ST.

I think the OLB situation will be a rotation, the fact they only used a 6th rounder on Elmore tells me that they're confident in what they have - Zombo got a bit of criticism last year which I felt was unfair for an UDFA and I feel he'll progress with Greene continuing to coach him up.

PackerLegend
05-04-2011, 10:34 PM
Packers.com has Randall Cobb listed as #18.... I really wish he would have had an 80s number but o well. Derek Sherrod (#78) is the only other rookie who has been listed with a number so far.

SuperPacker
05-05-2011, 01:37 PM
I dont mind WRs having teen numbers.

All the best ones are taken up. 88, 80, 85, 89.

Zycho32
05-06-2011, 12:09 PM
Excluding Practice Squad Players, I think the following 80's Numbers are left over; 81, 82, 84, 87.

18 was Cobb's number in Kentucky, so for all we know it's a number he totally wants.

SuperPacker
05-06-2011, 03:17 PM
Quarless is 81 and Nelson is 87.

J-Mike88
05-06-2011, 09:08 PM
I dont mind WRs having teen numbers.

All the best ones are taken up. 88, 80, 85, 89.
I agree... I hate those teen #'s for WRs.
We've had some important #84's over the years, from the great Sterling Sharpe to a temporary good one in Javon Walker.

I wish Cobb would have taken 84. But he was 19 at Kentucky, so we can get used to it I guess.

I still think of Hawk & Matthews as #47!

J-Mike88
05-06-2011, 10:20 PM
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Zycho32
05-07-2011, 01:04 AM
Quarless is 81 and Nelson is 87.

Get the Louisville Slugger. I need about twenty-thirty IQ Points bashed outta my skull.

J-Mike88
05-08-2011, 03:24 PM
Funny quote by Driver in today's article: "When I turn into the middle of the field, the first thing I think is that I hope nobody knocks my head off."

cvv84
05-08-2011, 05:37 PM
Funny quote by Driver in today's article: "When I turn into the middle of the field, the first thing I think is that I hope nobody knocks my head off."

Great guy for Cobb to learn from. Surely helped Jennings, Jones, and Nelson. I love this time in our franchise, we're completely overhauled and now we're grooming guys for the future.

CheeseKnuckles
05-09-2011, 06:55 AM
Great guy for Cobb to learn from. Surely helped Jennings, Jones, and Nelson. I love this time in our franchise, we're completely overhauled and now we're grooming guys for the future.

The sad thing is we may not see a training camp this year.... I know I am going to be disappointed because my son is finally old enough to take to family night. Plus I was going to take him to a preseason game so he could see his favorite player, Donald Driver.

princefielder28
05-09-2011, 08:09 AM
The sad thing is we may not see a training camp this year.... I know I am going to be disappointed because my son is finally old enough to take to family night. Plus I was going to take him to a preseason game so he could see his favorite player, Donald Driver.

If you want him to see the team you could always bring him to the softball game at Fox Cities Stadium

BloodBrother
05-09-2011, 09:44 AM
Thought this was a good highlight video

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CheeseKnuckles
05-09-2011, 03:58 PM
If you want him to see the team you could always bring him to the softball game at Fox Cities Stadium

He is only 3, I think he'd be confused if I told him those were the Packer players and they are out there playing softball....haha

CheeseKnuckles
05-09-2011, 04:14 PM
Nice video BloodBrother... glad you posted that.

J-Mike88
05-10-2011, 08:15 AM
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BloodBrother
05-10-2011, 09:17 AM
Man, the NFL Draft got me all pumped up for the new season and then we had to resume the lockout crap talk to deflate things. I'm having withdrawals here. I love baseball and the NBA playoffs and NHL playoffs are holding me over but football is my #1 sport and it pisses me off to no end that the year the Pack win it all we have a lockout

we should have been getting our first look at the next wave of Packers talent around this time for a rookie mini-camp but nada. I keep thinking of how this offense is gonna be with the newly added weapons in D.J. Williams, Alex Green and Mr. Versatility Randall Cobb.

On another note, how many times have you all re-watched the SB? I think I've re-watched most of the game(minus the 3rd quarter lol) at least 10 times since they won it

PackerLegend
05-10-2011, 04:22 PM
Man, the NFL Draft got me all pumped up for the new season and then we had to resume the lockout crap talk to deflate things. I'm having withdrawals here. it pisses me off to no end that the year the Pack win it all we have a lockout

we should have been getting our first look at the next wave of Packers talent around this time for a rookie mini-camp but nada. I keep thinking of how this offense is gonna be with the newly added weapons in D.J. Williams, Alex Green and Mr. Versatility Randall Cobb.


I know it really really ****ing sucks!

J-Mike88
05-10-2011, 09:54 PM
The good thing is: We are at the top right now. Other teams need to catch up to us, and by them not having their practice time to do that, they can't do that.

Plus we have a lot of guys who are getting extra rest that were on IR...... I just wish it would allow us to someway, find a way to keep Cullen Jenkins. He is willing to leave plenty of money on the table to remain a Packer. I wish the Pack would take advantage of that.

tjsunstein
05-11-2011, 08:44 AM
That video is fantastic. Aaron is quickly becoming one of my favorite players of all time.

PackerLegend
05-11-2011, 03:23 PM
Ya and not to mention hes a P.I.M.P

http://totalpackers.com/images/rodgersmiller.jpg

Not the best picture of her but yes thats Marisa Miller. Heres a better picture.

http://cdn.mademan.com/chickipedia/images/c/cd/Marisa_Miller_iPod_711.jpgMarisa_Miller_iPod_711_t humb_1834x0.jpg


Like I said P.I.M.P

cvv84
05-11-2011, 06:38 PM
Too bad she doesn't use the Nano...

BloodBrother
05-12-2011, 10:00 PM
Don't know if this was already said, but the Packers are tentatively scheduled to receive their rings on June 16th


Oh, and more good news, Murphy said Al Harris WILL be receiving a SB ring as well. Definitely makes me happy. He was a great player here for years and if not for the devastating injury he would have been a part of the 2010 team

cuzifelt1ikeit
05-13-2011, 05:46 PM
Don't know if this was already said, but the Packers are tentatively scheduled to receive their rings on June 16th


Oh, and more good news, Murphy said Al Harris WILL be receiving a SB ring as well. Definitely makes me happy. He was a great player here for years and if not for the devastating injury he would have been a part of the 2010 team

wow that is awesome. glad al harris will get one. great move.

SuperPacker
05-14-2011, 04:34 AM
But when Al gets his ring it wont feel like he won the superbowl because he didnt. He cant really tell his grandkids that he won a superbowl when he didnt even play for the team

J-Mike88
05-14-2011, 06:34 AM
But when Al gets his ring it wont feel like he won the superbowl because he didnt. He cant really tell his grandkids that he won a superbowl when he didnt even play for the team
Well he did as much, about, as Ryan Grant did in 2011.
And we all know about the 16 guys who were on IR and did nothing at all in that 4-game magic playoff ride.

And Al won't have to really tell his grandkids. He can just show them the ring.

This is a great move and one many of us were really hoping would occur.
Al worked his ass off to get back to the team, and when they released him, it was devastating.

I received tweets back & forth with Ryan Grant about it when it happened. Grant, as it turns out, was wrong.

bearsfan_51
05-14-2011, 02:02 PM
Anyone live in or attend Stevens Point? I'll be teaching there this fall and have never been. Doesn't seem like there's much to do, but I like to be outside, so I can probably entertain myself until winter comes.

SuperPacker
05-14-2011, 03:21 PM
Im not saying he shouldnt of got a ring but if i was a player (very unlikely) i wouldnt want to recieve an award because of what i did in the past. Its not like its gonna mean much to him. Its like Green Bay giving a random fan a superbowl ring. They will like it but it doesnt mean you have won the superbowl. And superbowl rings are meant go to the people that actually won a superbowl. It would surely just feel a bit fake.

umphrey
05-14-2011, 05:43 PM
Anyone live in or attend Stevens Point? I'll be teaching there this fall and have never been. Doesn't seem like there's much to do, but I like to be outside, so I can probably entertain myself until winter comes.
Well like many, many Wisconsin towns I only know that they have above average beer there for very cheap (Point Special)

J-Mike88
05-14-2011, 08:58 PM
but if i was a player (very unlikely) i wouldnt want to recieve an award because of what i did in the past. Its not like its gonna mean much to him. Its like Green Bay giving a random fan a superbowl ring.
Well they aren't just giving it to Harris at random. There are some very valid reasons why they are giving him the ring, and he deserves it and should feel proud of it. And I'm sure he will.

They didn't give one to Aaron Kampman, at random.

SuperPacker
05-15-2011, 03:26 AM
Well they aren't just giving it to Harris at random. There are some very valid reasons why they are giving him the ring, and he deserves it and should feel proud of it. And I'm sure he will.

They didn't give one to Aaron Kampman, at random.

But Aaron Kampman has done as much for Green Bay this season as Al Harris. So why isnt he getting one?

mqtirishfan
05-15-2011, 10:46 AM
But Aaron Kampman has done as much for Green Bay this season as Al Harris. So why isnt he getting one?

Because Aaron Kampman wasn't on the roster for half the season?

cvv84
05-15-2011, 01:17 PM
But Aaron Kampman has done as much for Green Bay this season as Al Harris. So why isnt he getting one?

Harris was on the PUP for half the season. He was still able to practice with the team during that time which makes him just as part of the team as anyone else.

Secondly, who cares how he feels about not playing in a game for the Packers this season. Al was a key part of our team for many years and the fact is he was on the team for half the season so the team did the right thing in giving him a ring.

This isn't a situation like the Colts when they gave Edgerin James a ring even though he played for the Cardinals.

J-Mike88
05-15-2011, 06:58 PM
But Aaron Kampman has done as much for Green Bay this season as Al Harris. So why isnt he getting one?
I think you forgot, but as a couple guys already reminded you, Harris worked his ass off on the Packers PUP roster until like October or November something and came off the PUP expecting to rejoin the team.

Ryan Grant told me personally he expected Harris back and he told me he still thought Al was our 2nd best CB at that time! I argued with him saying Harris was our 3rd best (Tramon).
Turns out the coaches were correct: Shields was also better.

Anyway, Brother Al was a "Packer" for all the off-season and 6-8 weeks into 2010.

SuperPacker
05-16-2011, 02:33 AM
Its a bit different over in England.

I watch football (soccer) and in premier league (which is like the nfl) there are 20 teams and each team plays 38 games. If you play for the team that won the league you only get a medal if you have played in more than 10 games.

Im just not use to giving medals or rings just for being a part of the team.

BloodBrother
05-16-2011, 09:44 AM
Gotcha. Yeah, it's really just up to the team on whether a guy gets a ring or not. I think Al deserved one since he was a part of the team heading into the season. IF he never got hurt he would have played all year. Kampman, while I wish he got a ring as well, was NOT a part of the team at all that season. He had already signed with the Jags. Harris was on the PUP and rehabbing his ass off to return to the Pack

As far as how he feels about getting a ring, that's his deal. Obviously his feelings towards it won't be the same as the guys who were on the field when the team won, but if I was Al, I'd still cherish the ring. To be honest, if I was a player, the ring would just be something of a reminder that "I won the SB" but the best part of the whole thing is the game itself where you are celebrating with your team mates after winning and holding the trophy. Don't think anything can top that moment. The ring is just an accessory to bust out during special occasions, really

SuperPacker
05-16-2011, 10:58 AM
The ring is just an accessory to bust out during special occasions, really

But would he feel right whipping out the ring and saying "i won the superbowl" when he didnt?

BloodBrother
05-16-2011, 12:03 PM
I don't know, you'd have to ask Al that. All I'm saying is that he did deserve one since he was a part of the 2010 roster for half the season(even if he didn't play)

I mean, Nick McDonald didn't play a snap all year and he will get a ring to. Is that any different than Al Harris? Only difference is that McDonald was on the sideline and got to celebrate after the game, despite him having NO impact on the team whatsoever at all

SuperPacker
05-16-2011, 12:50 PM
Yeah i know. I dont even think McDonald should get one :D neither should bigby, spitz, chillar, barnett, poppinga, quinn johnson. But thats just me :)

cvv84
05-16-2011, 04:20 PM
The thing about the rings is that it has nothing to do with the NFL. Its a team decision to give them out and who to give them to. The Steelers could make their own rings just as the Panthers could. Its more of a tradition and an organization celebration than anything.

I see what you're getting at SuperPacker but look at it like this, you said:

If you play for the team that won the league you only get a medal if you have played in more than 10 games.

So in the NFL, if typically if you're on the team for half the season you get a ring. I don't remember who it was but there was a player that ended up playing half the season for each Superbowl team, so he was getting a ring if his current team won or not.

TimmG6376
05-19-2011, 06:34 PM
Just watched the rookie roundtable on NFL Network. I can't wait to see Randall Cobb in a Packers jersey.

J-Mike88
05-19-2011, 09:50 PM
Just watched the rookie roundtable on NFL Network. I can't wait to see Randall Cobb in a Packers jersey.
Unfortunately, we all have to wait too long......

PackerLegend
05-21-2011, 03:53 PM
From Cullen Jenkins twitter... Thought this was funny

Found a DVD called naughty office girls 3. Dont know what its about, but will I understand it if I haven't seen versions 1 and 2 yet?



Ive heard of a bunch of other teams players gathering up others for workouts has anyone heard if any Packers are doing this?

cvv84
05-21-2011, 04:38 PM
Ive heard of a bunch of other teams players gathering up others for workouts has anyone heard if any Packers are doing this?

Some quotes from JS:

Q: Working out with anyone?
Bishop: Yeah, a few guys. Down in San Diego is Brandon Chillar, Brett Swain, Jarrett Bush, Charlie Peprah. There’s a few of us. Just conditioning stuff; nothing football.

Q: Player-only practices a possibility?
Bishop: Not unless we get back (to work). I think that workout stuff is mostly for the offense – quarterbacks getting their timing with the receivers. We’re more reactive. We just kind of go to the ball. We’re getting ready physically. And, everybody on our defense has already been acclimated to the defense. So, it won’t be that big of a mental adjustment once we get back.

In an interview with a radio station in Sacramento, Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers said he has not worked out with any of his teammates this off-season, with the lockout still in place.

Rodgers told KHTK-AM (1140) that it's not exactly easy to get together with his receivers, since they live all over the country.

"That’s something I’m sure we will do if it continues to drag on," Rodgers said about working out with his teammates. "I think if you look at some of the reports that are out there a lot of that is maybe over exaggerated about people getting together. You think about the number of different issues that are involved with getting those kinds of people together. It’s just difficult to do.

"Donald (Driver) lives in Houston, and he’s not going anywhere," Rodgers said. "Greg (Jennings) lives in Michigan. James (Jones) lives in San Jose. Jordy (Nelson) lives in Kansas. And Brett Swain lives in San Diego so to get those together who are all married and living with kids, is tough to do. We’re going to try, but it’s going to be difficult.”

Rodgers said NFL players remain optimistic that an agreement with owners can be reached soon.

“I’d say the majority of us are very optimistic that something’s going to happen in the near future," Rodgers said. "There are too many parties involved and too much money involved frankly for there not to be a season, in my opinion. A community like Green Bay needs the Packers to survive. The economy is built on people coming in to watch the games, coming in to watch training camp, there are a number of restaurants, hotels, bars, and their livelihood is directly related to us having a season. I hope we consider that when we’re negotiating and we find a solution that helps both parties. I’m optimistic we’re going to get something done."


I aslo recall hearing that Randall Cobb will be attending Larry Fitzgeralds WR camp along with Greg Jennings. Cobb has also been working out with punter Tim Masthay.

PackerLegend
05-21-2011, 07:02 PM
mGfVPfWrFuw

Brings back some good memories...

J-Mike88
05-21-2011, 08:44 PM
mGfVPfWrFuw

Brings back some good memories...
Sweet.... wow, youtube has videos 3 hours long like this now?

PackerLegend
05-21-2011, 08:54 PM
Sweet.... wow, youtube has videos 3 hours long like this now?

It says the videos can be up to 15mins in length now but somehow this guy was able to put the entire game by compressing it. Hey who cares.... now if only we get the chance to defend it this season!

umphrey
05-21-2011, 10:02 PM
I don't really care whether or not we do player work outs but I wouldn't mind seeing quarterbacks and receivers and specialists like KR/PR, kickers, punters working out in groups. Right after we drafted Cobb I remember thinking I hope Jennings takes him to camp with Fitz, so I was pretty excited to hear that happened. Working with Masthay was a surprise but a good one since I want him to return kicks for us next year and that's a skill I think you need to practice - not the return part but just catching spinning footballs off a foot. Would get rusty like a baseball hitter or basketball shooter I'd imagine.

SuperPacker
05-22-2011, 04:16 AM
Great video. I think we got a huge chance of repeating, we get back Grant and Finley back plus Sherrod, Cobb and Green. That should make our offense unstoppable. We get Mike Neal, Brad Jones and Erik Walden back and another CB in House which will only make our defense better. We are gonna tear apart the NFC North and finish as the 1st seed in the NFC. We will get to the superbowl and win it comfortably against the Baltimore Ravens!!!

Cant wait for the season to start. Just hope they sort it out soon.

cvv84
05-24-2011, 08:36 PM
So left guard?

Seems like the concensus is that its going to be T.J. Lang as the starter, assuming that Colledge isn't brought back. I think a potential sleeper could be Marshall Newhouse. With both tackle positions pretty much locked up for the foreseeable future I think he could be a good option for us as LG. Good size and run blocking ability, but hopefully LG won't be a weak spot for us this year.

J-Mike88
05-26-2011, 09:13 PM
I am so fricking sad/bored/hungry without any NFL action/activities!

I feel I'm going thru a chocolate withdrawel here.
The only good thing is we're reigning champions and we have a lot of good footage to rewatch!

i have both wins over the cowboys the past 2 years even saved on DVR, in addition to this playoff run. somehow, i lost the game vs Atlanta though :o(

BloodBrother
05-27-2011, 10:04 AM
Packers players are receiving their SB rings on June 16th. NFL allowing the team and players to have contact for this occasion. Hope to see some good pics of the rings

J-Mike88
05-27-2011, 10:18 PM
Packers players are receiving their SB rings on June 16th. NFL allowing the team and players to have contact for this occasion. Hope to see some good pics of the rings
And this is awesome because it will be THE ONLY REAL FOOTBALL NEWS of that day, that week probably..... FULL SPOTLIGHT ON TITLETOWN for the celebration, and it won't be 20-below f**** zero this time!

cvv84
05-31-2011, 06:13 PM
Josh Sitton getting some love from Pro Football Focus

Interview (http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/31/interview-with-josh-sitton-rg-green-bay-packers/)

Complete RG (http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/26/josh-sitton-complete-right-guard/)


With Sitton, Bulaga, and now Sherrod our offensive line could be one of the tops in the league in a few years. Quite a turnaround from when we dumped Wahle and let Rivera walk in FA.

J-Mike88
06-03-2011, 09:47 PM
I'm suffering from Packer withdrawl

cvv84
06-04-2011, 10:03 AM
Josh Sitton getting some love from Pro Football Focus

Interview (http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/31/interview-with-josh-sitton-rg-green-bay-packers/)

Complete RG (http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/05/26/josh-sitton-complete-right-guard/)


With Sitton, Bulaga, and now Sherrod our offensive line could be one of the tops in the league in a few years. Quite a turnaround from when we dumped Wahle and let Rivera walk in FA.

Now they're giving Desmond Bishop (http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/06/04/desmond-bishop-making-his-mark/) his due.

J-Mike88
06-14-2011, 07:03 PM
Where the hell is everybody?

princefielder28
06-14-2011, 07:40 PM
Where the hell is everybody?

what's there to talk about? haha

cvv84
06-15-2011, 07:01 PM
Where the hell is everybody?

I still check in and tried to get a few topics rolling but nobody seemed interested.

J-Mike88
06-15-2011, 08:10 PM
I still check in and tried to get a few topics rolling but nobody seemed interested.
Yeah you did, thanks..... we need more of that. My bad. Let's get excited about repeating. I can't wait for September 8th, bring on the Saints. Send them home 0-1.

I will (probably) be going to the game at San Diego in November, woo-hoo!

Let's talk about the guys who may be in, or out, with us.

My odds they are back in a Packer uniform again:
Cullen Jenkins: 2%
James Jones: 60%
Atari Bigby: 20%
Brandon Jackson: 1%
Johnny Jolly: 0%
Donald Lee: 25%
Mason Crosby: 75%
Mark Tauscher: 35% as a veteran backup
Brandon Underwood: 10%
Pat Lee: 45%

Who else might we lose?
What are your odds?

J-Mike88
06-15-2011, 08:12 PM
what's there to talk about? haha
Oh I see it..... Brewers talk!
They're doing pretty good this year.... I hope they make the playoffs.

My Twinkies suck this year. They've got mold on them this year.

princefielder28
06-15-2011, 08:15 PM
I would put James Jones at .5% of being back in Green & Gold...he wants to be paid like a top flight wideout and i don't think the team is willing to go that far to bring him back, especially with Randall Cobb in th mix now

bigboiajhawk
06-16-2011, 01:21 AM
Don't know if you guys saw this but a pretty cool video about ARod and his brother.

http://www.youtube.com/user/thewholebodyfitness#p/a/u/1/8iV9ImsRleM

BloodBrother
06-16-2011, 09:00 PM
Here they are! The Super Bowl Rings!

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/8478/ring5.jpg
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2941/ring3c.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1860/ring2e.jpg
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/739/ring4j.jpg

PackerLegend
06-16-2011, 09:27 PM
Bling bling... whose hands are those? random I know.

BloodBrother
06-16-2011, 09:28 PM
hah, can't even remember. So many of them are tweeting pics that I'm just finding some of the better ones and posting them. I think one of them is Barnett. I think the party is open to the media now so there should be some better, clearer pics coming soon. I want to see one with Driver, Clifton and Woodson sporting their rings

here is the ring next to the other ones. Shows how big it is in comparison to their past rings

http://www.packers.com/assets/images/imported/GB/photos/article_images/2011/06-june/110616allrings420.jpg

bigboiajhawk
06-17-2011, 12:08 AM
Just 109 diamonds weighing 3.35 carats; nothing too special. ;)

Interesting fact from Packers.com: Bryan Bulaga was the youngest player to ever start in a Super Bowl.

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/HOF-Inc-names-Packers-team-MVP-Bulaga-Rookie-of-the-Year/6fbd4649-b373-4b21-a5ef-042e2f217be1

Freakin Lockout raining down on our party; I guess we will just have to win another Superbowl!

J-Mike88
06-17-2011, 12:24 PM
GORGEOUS, and I GOT A FEELING........ we might get another one in the near future!
http://www.packers.com/assets/images/imported/GB/photos/article_images/2011/06-june/110616allrings420.jpg

TitleTown088
06-17-2011, 06:01 PM
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/249600_10150231508960073_71671905072_7462538_14973 23_n.jpg

BloodBrother
06-17-2011, 08:28 PM
C Wood showing off his hardware

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/heraldextra.com/content/tncms/assets/editorial/f/a2/4f7/fa24f7dd-d92a-5644-9bd5-8d735f8f2434-revisions/4dfafbb3cf858.image.jpg

Driver shows his off

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/254345_10150231509205073_71671905072_7462543_16140 43_n.jpg

Capers

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/262265_10150231509065073_71671905072_7462540_71294 32_n.jpg

Packers WR corps

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/254440_10150231509320073_71671905072_7462545_46322 72_n.jpg

C.J. Wilson and Josh Sitton

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/264520_10150231509520073_71671905072_7462549_34217 31_n.jpg

J-Mike and Morgan Burnett

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/254185_10150231510230073_71671905072_7462567_49161 57_n.jpg

Jennings showing off his ring with the trophy

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/247850_10150231509600073_71671905072_7462550_39480 03_n.jpg


Some more pics of the ring

http://www.jostens.com/sports/galleries/packers/alt_05_front_lg.jpg
http://www.jostens.com/sports/galleries/packers/alt_01_front_lg.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KelJcglaUH4/Tfq5cnhBB7I/AAAAAAAAFCs/zU6sANJLfXo/s1600/5840677685_ebb21c9023_b.jpg
http://www.jostens.com/sports/galleries/packers/alt_03_right_lg.jpg

Inside of it has 2 things on each side. One side is the scores of all their playoff games
http://www.jostens.com/sports/galleries/packers/alt_04_inside_lg.jpg

The other is from the speech Woodson gave the team after their win in the NFCCG at Chicago
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9595/1mind.jpg

Quick video showing the making of the ring

2azUUtWWkVk

The_Dude
06-18-2011, 08:42 PM
http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/06/15/jay-cutlers-knee-fantastic-vagina-still-hurts/

Thought you guys might like this article, if you haven't seen it before.....

SuperPacker
06-20-2011, 05:56 AM
I like the total packers website :) not the most detailed or not the most football related but its very interesting and quite funny.

cvv84
06-25-2011, 06:49 PM
Here's mine:

Cullen Jenkins: 20%
James Jones: 10%
Atari Bigby: 0%
Brandon Jackson: 50%
Johnny Jolly: 0%
Donald Lee: 0$
Mason Crosby: 100%
Mark Tauscher: 10%
Brandon Underwood: 90%
Pat Lee: 90%

Who else might we lose?
What are your odds?

I noticed you missed a few big ones, Nick Barnett, Daryn Colledge, and John Kuhn. Even Matt Flynn and Ryan Grant.

Nick Barnett: 25%
Daryn Colledge: 35%
John Kuhn: 80%
Matt Flynn: 100%
Ryan Grant: 100%

princefielder28
06-30-2011, 12:37 PM
Aaron Rodgers was rated the 4th best player in football by ESPN...the list was garbage considering Vick ended up being #10 but can't argue with Rodgers being that highly rated

J-Mike88
06-30-2011, 07:32 PM
Here's mine:

Cullen Jenkins: 20%
James Jones: 10%
Atari Bigby: 0%
Brandon Jackson: 50%
Johnny Jolly: 0%
Donald Lee: 0$
Mason Crosby: 100%
Mark Tauscher: 10%
Brandon Underwood: 90%
Pat Lee: 90%
Nick Barnett: 25%
Daryn Colledge: 35%
John Kuhn: 80%
Matt Flynn: 100%
Ryan Grant: 100%
I'll take the over on Colledge.
The over on Jones.
The unders on Underwood and Pat Lee. One of them might make it, not both.

I just can't see Jenkins being twice as likely to stay a Packer than Jones.

I want to keep all our guys!

SuperPacker
07-02-2011, 05:56 AM
Out of all the potential players leaving i only really want Jenkins back :)

TitleTown088
07-02-2011, 12:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq_rX2EC46U

at 3:08...

http://www.gifsoup.com/view7/2753692/dank-o.gif

TitleTown088
07-05-2011, 06:46 PM
Looks like Brandon Underwood is pretty much a goner. What a turd.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/43647251/ns/sports-player_news/

cvv84
07-05-2011, 07:51 PM
Looks like Brandon Underwood is pretty much a goner. What a turd.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/43647251/ns/sports-player_news/

Good riddence! Hope Johnny Jolly helps him pack.


Davon House is your time to step up!

Coombser
07-06-2011, 09:23 AM
No loss whatsoever...gives House a bit more scope to see the field.

J-Mike88
07-07-2011, 09:48 PM
Looks like Brandon Underwood is pretty much a goner. What a turd.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/43647251/ns/sports-player_news/
Now his stupid (blonde) wife says she never wanted him to get into trouble and told the police not to arrest him, and that she was never afraid of him.

Sounds like she got a case of JungleFeva, or is it GoldDiggingFeva?
http://cmsimg.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Avis=U0&Dato=20110706&Kategori=PKR01&Lopenr=107060805&Ref=PH&NewTbl=1&Itemnr=1&MaxW=133&MaxH=133&Border=0
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100611214145/uncyclopedia/images/a/a3/Caitu.jpg
http://cmsimg.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=U0&Date=20110706&Category=PKR01&ArtNo=110706037&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0

princefielder28
07-07-2011, 10:20 PM
Brandon lives close to where I work (at a gas station) and both him and his wife made an appearance there tonight but they did so in different trips...she paid for everything with quarters too so i'm guessing he's not given her too much money haha

PackerLegend
07-13-2011, 03:17 PM
Brandon lives close to where I work (at a gas station) and both him and his wife made an appearance there tonight but they did so in different trips...she paid for everything with quarters too so i'm guessing he's not given her too much money haha

Sounds like an interesting gas station to be working at.... you didnt see Brandon ever bringing in other women did you lol.

someone447
07-14-2011, 03:40 PM
I will (probably) be going to the game at San Diego in November, woo-hoo!


I'm going to that game! I haven't been to a Packer game since they played the last game at County Stadium. That was what, 17 years ago?

PackerLegend
07-19-2011, 10:06 PM
Who has seen this.... Does this mean he wants to be a Packer for life? I get the feeling it does.

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/90/90ab8fa20aa2e357f77a33dec54c84a1/photo_sam_shields_gets_a_super_bowl_ring_tattoo_on _his_neck.jpg

The NFL lockout has prevented Packers players from receiving their Super Bowl rings in a public ceremony or making the customary trip to the White House. Getting tatted up with the former is one way to solve that problem.

My biggest concern for Shields is that he becomes a free agent after the 2012 season. When he walks into a negotiating meeting at Lambeau Field with a four-inch Packers G popping from his shirt collar, reason dictates that it would kill his leverage a bit.

J-Mike88
07-20-2011, 05:54 PM
I appreciate the tat, but wow, it's bigger than I thought.
Not a big fan of such big ink..... but his heart is in the right place, and I love Sam Shields!
I remember being so excited last year in camps about the young man's potential.
You can't teach speed like that!

princefielder28
07-25-2011, 09:00 AM
We'll be able to negotiate with our free agents today along with undrafted free agents

Tomorrow will be the day for unrestricted free agents

J-Mike88
07-25-2011, 09:56 AM
We'll be able to negotiate with our free agents today along with undrafted free agents

Tomorrow will be the day for unrestricted free agents
Who do you think we keep, and lose?

Stay: Kuhn, Kicker,

Gone: Cullen :o( Jones. Bigby, Colledge

Will there be anyone willing to offer anything for Barnett? I doubt it, which sucks. He should command about a 3rd round pick from someone, but they know we're gonna release him anyway and they can sign him cheaper. If we could just find 2 teams who would bid for him, but that's a long shot.


Colledge staying would not shock me. But with the rookie Sherrod, TJ Lang, and Marshall Marshall Marshall Newhouse there, I think they want to let one of those guys earn the spot. Plus I think McDonald they like.

princefielder28
07-25-2011, 10:31 AM
I think we re-sign John Kuhn and Mason Crosby, so I agree with you there. I also agree on all the guys we will let walk (led by Jenkins and Jones) and then we'll see Barnett get released.

For left guard I think it's going be a competition bewteen Lang and McDonald. I don't see Newhouse as much of a factor, other than being a backup, and Sherrod needs to be ready to take over at LT one day and isn't a long term fix at LG so it'd be a waste of time for him and the team.

I would like to see us make a run at Turk McBride and David Baas in free agency

princefielder28
07-25-2011, 12:09 PM
UDFA's i'd like to see brought in...

Mario Harvey - Marshall
Cedric Thornton - Southern Arkansas
Pierre Allen - Nebraska
Adam Froman - Louisville
Ben Chappell - Indiana
Alex Wujiciak - Maryland
Zach Hurd - UCONN

there's a handful of others but i'm looking at guys who could come in and really compete for depth along the lines, special teams, and as the 3rd quarterback for the team

Zycho32
07-25-2011, 03:08 PM
So are the Pack really close or over the 'floor' in the cap?

PackerLegend
07-25-2011, 03:11 PM
Found it.... Some of these numbers are off a little bit.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6786350/reggie-bush-potential-cap-casualties?ex_cid=espn-twttr

Arizona $37.3 million under
Atlanta $13.9 million under
Baltimore $5.33 million under
Buffalo $35.9 million under
Carolina $30.6 million under
Chicago $37. million under
Cincinnati $35.9 million under
Cleveland $33.3 million under
Dallas $18.9 million over
Denver $1 million under
Detroit $16.6 million under
Green Bay $62,600 under
Houston $7.6 million under
Indianapolis $2.7 million over
Jacksonville $31.4 million under
Kansas City $34.3 million under
Miami $13.6 million under
Minnesota $5.1 million over
New England $7.57 million under
New Orleans $11.7 million under
N.Y. Giants $11.3 million over
N.Y. Jets $1.2 million over
Oakland $10 million over
Philadelphia $13 million under
Pittsburgh $10 million over
San Diego $19.4 million under
San Francisco $18.9 million under
Seattle $39 million under
St. Louis $35.6 million under
Tampa Bay $59.2 million under
Tennessee $10.3 million under
Washington $10.6 million under

PackerLegend
07-25-2011, 03:23 PM
per john clayton.... Didnt know he was hoping for a trade but ok.. just posted for the cap numbers.

Green Bay Packers LB Nick Barnett: Barnett has been hoping for a trade and he should get one. He has a $6.9 million cap number, and releasing or trading him would save the Packers a much-needed $4.2 million. The Packers also would free up $4.581 million if they release tackle Mark Tauscher.

J-Mike88
07-25-2011, 03:56 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6786350/reggie-bush-potential-cap-casualties?ex_cid=espn-twttrArizona $37.3 million under

Buffalo $35.9 million under
Carolina $30.6 million under
Chicago $37. million under
Cincinnati $35.9 million under
Cleveland $33.3 million under
Detroit $16.6 million under
Jacksonville $31.4 million under
Kansas City $34.3 million under
Miami $13.6 million under
Philadelphia $13 million under
San Francisco $18.9 million under
Seattle $39 million under
St. Louis $35.6 million under
Tampa Bay $59.2 million under

Holy ***t.
Those guys have a lot of money to throw at the free agents!
I don't like seeing Da Bears that far under. We know they aren't afraid to add instant talent (Peppers, Cutler trade).
Look at Tampa Bay! Dang. They have a fortune..... and are in a nice area where a lot of people would like to setup their home camps. And they're a team on the rise with a good young QB, and a black coach who, let's face it, a lot of black players will like to play for as one of they own. What Larry Johnson said, a lot of them think it too.

Really, I'd like to see them overpay for Nmamdi.
I'd hate to see them add a great young WR like Sidney Rice.

They do have to re-ink David Joseph though.... he should eat into that number a bit, but that number is HUGE.

cvv84
07-25-2011, 06:50 PM
per john clayton.... Didnt know he was hoping for a trade but ok.. just posted for the cap numbers.

He knows whats likely going to happen. The writing is on the wall and the odds are against him seeing he lost his starting job.

I'd rather trade him too, get something for him instead of cap room. 3rd or 4th? Why not.

cvv84
07-25-2011, 06:56 PM
Arizona $37.3 million under

Buffalo $35.9 million under
Carolina $30.6 million under
Chicago $37. million under
Cincinnati $35.9 million under
Cleveland $33.3 million under
Detroit $16.6 million under
Jacksonville $31.4 million under
Kansas City $34.3 million under
Miami $13.6 million under
Philadelphia $13 million under
San Francisco $18.9 million under
Seattle $39 million under
St. Louis $35.6 million under
Tampa Bay $59.2 million under

Holy ***t.
Those guys have a lot of money to throw at the free agents!
I don't like seeing Da Bears that far under. We know they aren't afraid to add instant talent (Peppers, Cutler trade).
Look at Tampa Bay! Dang. They have a fortune..... and are in a nice area where a lot of people would like to setup their home camps. And they're a team on the rise with a good young QB, and a black coach who, let's face it, a lot of black players will like to play for as one of they own. What Larry Johnson said, a lot of them think it too.

Really, I'd like to see them overpay for Nmamdi.
I'd hate to see them add a great young WR like Sidney Rice.

They do have to re-ink David Joseph though.... he should eat into that number a bit, but that number is HUGE.

Those teams aren't really suprising. They are either rebuilding or rebuilt for the most part, the latter is ready to start paying those young guys. The Bears and Eagles structured free agent contracts correctly.



On a side note, I ran into Jermichael Finley last Friday. Dude is smallish.

bigboiajhawk
07-25-2011, 07:17 PM
Alright football is back, woo hoo, I was on lockout as well. But now it is time to start posting.

My first though relates to J-Mike. I am a little worried about J-Mike's injury. I think it was a lot worse than what was reported to the media. Jason Wilde had a nice blog about J-Mike.

http://www.espnmilwaukee.com/page.php?page_id=278

The article makes it sound like he thinks he is 100%, but I am gonna say that the Packers hold him out the first week or so of practice. I mean we're talking about practice man.


My 2nd thought is that I think the Packers run game will be much much better this year. I mean we have atleast 3 guys that should be quality RB's in Grant, Starks, and Green. Also, we won't have Daryn Colledge on the line anymore with his zero push run blocking. I am excited to see an OL of Cliton-Lang-Wells-Sitton-Bulaga. I think TT has finally established a solid, but not great, OL. I mean we actually have some backups that won't absolutely suck when they have to go into a game.

My 3rd thought is that they should give BJ Raji and Ryan Pickett way less reps to start off the season. Howard Green most likely is going to need to be baby stepped into football so he can't take more reps, but we need Mike Neal, CJ Wilson, possibly Justin Harrell, Jarius Wynn, and Lawrence Guy to get all the reps they can. Not to mention Jay Ross, a late season pickup.

My fouth and final thought is that I am actually excited for when I come up to training camp to see a legitimate kick returner and punt returner. Randall Cobb!!!!! No more watching MM try guys out at KR and PR, we for once have a guy that can do it.

PackerLegend
07-25-2011, 08:45 PM
Finally we can get this discussion going again! so excited these upcoming weeks are going to be busy busy for all teams. We will have to keep eachother updated because it should be a mess... Although an exciting one cant wait!

PackerLegend
07-25-2011, 08:51 PM
Packers have signed a couple rookie UDFA's anybody know anything about them.

WR Tori Gurley, South Carolina
KR Shaky Smithson, Utah
C Sampson Genus, USF


http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider

J-Mike88
07-25-2011, 09:08 PM
Packers have signed a couple rookie UDFA's anybody know anything about them.

WR Tori Gurley, South Carolina
KR Shaky Smithson, Utah
C Sampson Genus, USF


http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider
I can't remember details or where, but I did a breakdown of this guy prior to the draft when looking at special teams return guys. I was excited about him as a return guy.
I believe he's got something up on youtube.... I'm gonna go look for it again........

J-Mike88
07-25-2011, 09:20 PM
Here was the thread about return men before the draft, and I posted some clips of Shaky in there... http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2578928#post2578928

PackerLegend
07-25-2011, 10:12 PM
Packers have signed a couple rookie UDFA's anybody know anything about them.

WR Tori Gurley, South Carolina
KR Shaky Smithson, Utah
C Sampson Genus, USF


http://twitter.com/#!/NFLDraftInsider

add another one

Anthony Bratton (S, Delaware) to the Packers

bigboiajhawk
07-25-2011, 11:36 PM
I guess I am a little surprised by the WR's that we added. Gurley was probably one of the top undrafted guys at WR; he actually has a shot at the roster if he proves that he is not immature. I mean the guy is 6'5" with decent speed.

Shaky Smithson is a legit returner with questionable receiver skills. I like it though. I am happy that we are finally getting back to the return game, because it does make a difference where your starting field position is. I think Smithson has a shot as well. I mean how much did we really see Brett Swain really on the field. Smithson could actually be our return guy if MM does not want to use a true position player at KR/PR, then we could make Smithson our 5th WR and PR/KR, and use Cobb as our slot WR and have Cobb motion in and out of the backfield. Also, with J-Mike back it kind of defeats the purpose of the 5th WR.



By surprised I mean that I am surprised that we got them.

jackalope
07-25-2011, 11:49 PM
Any chance Sherrod competes at LG like Bulaga did last year?

bigboiajhawk
07-25-2011, 11:57 PM
Shaky Smithson (sounds like a really good guy, I hope he can make it, he is my favorite UDFA for camp)

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bigboiajhawk
07-26-2011, 12:07 AM
Any chance Sherrod competes at LG like Bulaga did last year?

I think there is a very good chance, but with that said, I think it is Lang's job to lose. I think people forget that last offseason was lost for Lang due to his wrist injury. I think he comes out this season and shows that he is worth the starting spot. (Atleast I hope)

bigboiajhawk
07-26-2011, 12:21 AM
Supposedly Jamari Lattimore from MTSU was added as well.

He was the Sun Belt Defensive Player of the Year, and is going to be an OLB. He seems like an outstanding athlete.

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princefielder28
07-26-2011, 07:11 AM
nevermind...a blog report was false

jackalope
07-26-2011, 10:55 AM
Barnett is gone via his twitter. Release, or will we be able to trade him?

princefielder28
07-26-2011, 11:06 AM
Barnett is gone via his twitter. Release, or will we be able to trade him?

no team would trade for him...they know he's gonna be released

Jimmy
07-26-2011, 11:09 AM
no team would trade for him...they know he's gonna be released

was it a cap casualty? how much of this move was skill based? I know he's been battling injuries. Is he worth a pickup?

princefielder28
07-26-2011, 11:14 AM
was it a cap casualty? how much of this move was skill based? I know he's been battling injuries. Is he worth a pickup?

he's making far too much money to be the team's 3rd ILB...his skills are certainly diminished somewhat bc he's been battling injuries and physical abilities are no longer at the level we once saw...i think he's worth a pickup but i would watch out too bc there's baggage with Barnett and some character concerns

jackalope
07-26-2011, 11:29 AM
was it a cap casualty? how much of this move was skill based? I know he's been battling injuries. Is he worth a pickup?

He can still be a starter if he's healthy. If Bishop and Hawk hadn't performed as well as they did last year, he'd probably still have his job.

BloodBrother
07-26-2011, 11:32 AM
The writing was on the wall once they locked Hawk up. Frees up some cash. I expect Tauscher to be cut as well, along with Poppinga

bigboiajhawk
07-26-2011, 12:46 PM
The writing was on the wall once they locked Hawk up. Frees up some cash. I expect Tauscher to be cut as well, along with Poppinga

I am waiting for Poppinga and his dumb contract to be gone. Too bad we have too many other really good players to give extensions to, otherwise we could probably resign Jenkins.

BloodBrother
07-26-2011, 12:51 PM
Tauscher is definitely gone as well. No way they carry that 4 mill he's owed this season. Chillar is another candidate but I assume with Barnett gone they'll hold onto him. Harrell is due 1.25 mill and I expect him to get cut as well

They have a lot of decisions to make this year. JEnkins is definitely gone....he'll go to the highest bidder and it will just be too much for the Pack. James Jones is probably gone as well. They also need to give extensions this year to guys like Sitton, Jordy Nelson and Finley since they are FA's after this upcoming year. Sitton would be priority #1 as he's already a top 5 guard in the NFL and is only about 24-25 years old.

cvv84
07-26-2011, 03:05 PM
I am waiting for Poppinga and his dumb contract to be gone. Too bad we have too many other really good players to give extensions to, otherwise we could probably resign Jenkins.

I'd love to keep Jenkins but I'd also love for him to stay healthy. If you can't stay healthy then you're no good to us, plain and simple.



Barnett to the Lions or Bucs.

cvv84
07-26-2011, 03:11 PM
Any chance Sherrod competes at LG like Bulaga did last year?

He's likely going to get a shot but with a shortened offseason I don't see him realistically being tried at LG.

I also think its Lang's job to lose but I could also see Marshall Newhouse and more likely Evan Dietrich-Smith. The Packers are very high on D-S.

CheeseKnuckles
07-26-2011, 03:22 PM
I know I am pulling for Shaky Smithson!!! I was a fan of his during the draft process and I'm glad he made his way to GB, I'm guessing he had other offers from other teams, but decided to come to GB for the same reasons he picked going to Utah. Hope he makes the team!

I also like the Gurley signing, good athlete... can't wait to see these guys on Family night and the pre-season game I am taking my 3yr old son to. I think the young guys will see much more action come pre-season due to the shortened time coaches have to evaluate them this year.

PackerLegend
07-26-2011, 04:40 PM
Family night is just going to be a padded pratice this year and not a scrimmage if you havent heard.

CheeseKnuckles
07-26-2011, 06:18 PM
Family night is just going to be a padded pratice this year and not a scrimmage if you havent heard.

I'm taking my 3yr old.... I'm not really worried what it is, still want to see the young guys out there.

bigboiajhawk
07-26-2011, 06:36 PM
Here is a nice long write up of all of the Packers UDFA's (curtesy of Packersnews.com)

Diondre Borel, QB, Utah State (6-0, 199): Three-year starter and the No. 2 all-time passer in school history, but projected as a receiver/kick returner prospect in the NFL. Ran the 40 in 4.50 and 4.53 at his pro day.

Anthony Bratton, S, Delaware (6-2, 200): First-team all-Colonial Athletic Association selection last season. Had two interceptions as a senior. Had a pre-draft visit with the Packers and Jacksonville Jaguars.

Ray Dominguez, G/T, Arkansas (6-4, 334): Viewed as a right guard or right tackle prospect. Started all 13 games last season at tackle. Benched only 21 reps at the combine.

Sampson Genus, C, South Florida (6-1, 315): First-team all-Big East selection last season after starting all 12 games at center. Did not attend combine but did 27 reps on the bench at his pro day. Also seen as a possible prospect at guard.

Tori Gurley, WR, South Carolina (6-4, 216): Early draft entry as redshirt sophomore. Known as a sure-handed receiver who reportedly didn’t have a single drop last season, when he recorded 42 catches for 416 yards and four touchdowns. Ran a 4.53 40 at the combine.

Jon Hoese, FB, Minnesota (6-2, 238): A hamstring injury slowed him late last season. Not invited to the combine. Blocking back who carried only 18 times last season.

M.D. Jennings, S, Arkansas State (6-0, 185): First-team all-Sun Belt conference as a senior. Can play either safety position. Ran the 40 in 4.48 and 4.58 at his pro day but reported a tight hamstring after his second time.

Elijah “Peanut” Joseph, ILB, Temple: (6-1, 243): Attended the combine but did not work out because he was still recovering from a knee injury sustained last season. Did 31 reps on the bench at his pro day. Became a regular starter as a sophomore.

Elisha “Eli” Joseph, NT, Temple (6-2, 290): Played in the shadow of first-round pick Muhammad Wilkerson, but played nose tackle in a 3-4 scheme. Did a whopping 43 reps on the bench at his pro day.

Jamari Lattimore, OLB, Middle Tennessee State (6-2, 230): Finished his career with 20 sacks, including a school record 11 in a single season. Comes from the same school that produced current Packers’ OLB Erik Walden.

Brandian Ross, DB, Youngstown State (6-0, 191): Played cornerback in college but some NFL teams scouted him as a free safety. Not invited to the combine, but worked out at Ohio State’s pro day. Started all 11 games as a senior and played in 45 career games for the Penguins and finished with seven interceptions.

Brandon Saine, RB, Ohio State (5-11, 220): A former Ohio Mr. Football and a state track champion as a sprinter. Started eight of 13 games last season but carried just 70 times for 337 yards (4.8-yard average). Also caught 23 passes for 195 yards (8.5-yard average) and five receiving touchdowns last season. Most productive season was in 2009, when he rushed for 739 yards and averaged 5.1-yards per carry. According to the Dayton Daily News, at least 10 NFL teams were interested in signing him. Ran the 40 in 4.4 at the combine.

Theo Sherman, G, James Madison (6-3, 302): Played in 45 career games, including 11 starts as a senior. Did not attend combine but benched only 17 reps in his pro day.

Antoine “Shaky” Smithson, WR, Utah (5-11, 202): Had a pre-draft visit with the Packers, who also consider him a kick return prospect. Led the nation last season in punt return average (19.7 yards) and returned two punts for touchdowns. Ran a 4.65 40 at his pro day.

Vic So’oto, DE/OLB, BYU (6-3, 265): First-team all Mountain West selection as a senior defensive end, but may project to outside linebacker in a 3-4. Did not attend combine but did 35 reps on the bench press at his pro day.

Kerry Taylor, WR, Arizona State (6-0, 198): Uncle is former San Francisco 49ers receiver John Taylor. Had 111 catches over four seasons with the Sun Devils. Best season was his senior year with 54 catches, 699 yards and three touchdowns. Not invited to the combine but ran a 4.55 40 on grass at his pro day.



My top list of guys that have a decent shot of a roster spot:

1a) Shaky Smithson - Depends on if MM wants to use Cobb as returner. If he doesn't want to use Cobb as returner, I think, if Smithson can catch the ball he wins the 5th WR role over Gurley, Swain, and West.

1b) Tori Gurley - If MM uses Cobb as the KR and PR, then I think Gurley wins out because of his size and athletic ability.

2) Vic So'oto - He has the size, speed combo that you look for in an OLB.

3) Brandian Ross - I think the CB position gets a nice shake up at the 4 and 5 spots this year, and I think House and Ross could be those guys.

J-Mike88
07-26-2011, 07:43 PM
I know I am pulling for Shaky Smithson!!! I was a fan of his during the draft process and I'm glad he made his way to GB, I'm guessing he had other offers from other teams, but decided to come to GB for the same reasons he picked going to Utah. Hope he makes the team.
We were all excited a couple years ago when the dude from Jennings college was signed as an UDFA, and he was an early cut.

I love Shaky, and Gurley seems good too, but there's only (possibly) room for one of them after:

Jennings
Donald
Jordyzzz
Cobb

That means Swain has to battle all these guys...... I don't see anyway he makes it over these 2 new guys, especially with Shaky's ability as a return stud. Cobb is an ace there too though.
I love our talent!

cvv84
07-26-2011, 07:45 PM
Rodgers: re-signing James Jones should be top priority (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/126217363.html)

J-Mike88
07-26-2011, 07:45 PM
no team would trade for him...they know he's gonna be releasedThat's right, but I don't understand this:

A handful of teams WANT him.
Only one can SIGN him, it's a crapshoot.

But if just ONE of the teams will give us anything, even a future pick/consideration, than they don't have to outbid the others and *hope* to get him.

Why can't we get one team to cough up anything for him? He was our starting linebacker for God's sake, until injury. He's not old. He's about 7 years younger than Ray Lewis, same position.

princefielder28
07-26-2011, 07:55 PM
Rodgers: re-signing James Jones should be top priority (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/126217363.html)

I can understand him wanting to see Jones back with the team but Aaron is smart enough to know that the financial burden of bringing him back isn't a smart investment for the team given the money and picks already stuck into the position and the future costs of the position with Jennings and Jordy.

princefielder28
07-26-2011, 08:09 PM
That's right, but I don't understand this:

A handful of teams WANT him.
Only one can SIGN him, it's a crapshoot.

But if just ONE of the teams will give us anything, even a future pick/consideration, than they don't have to outbid the others and *hope* to get him.

Why can't we get one team to cough up anything for him? He was our starting linebacker for God's sake, until injury. He's not old. He's about 7 years younger than Ray Lewis, same position.

Barnett is 30 years old, has missed 19 games in the last 3 seasons, and has a contract that would certainly need be re-structed for a team to be willing to acquire him but something i'm sure Barnett would not be willing to agree to contractually. Any team that has interest probably has interest to the extent that they'd bring him in for a year and see how he's healed and what he has left in the tank and giving up any picks or making a commitment longer than a year would be too risky of a business decision given the recent history

bigboiajhawk
07-26-2011, 09:52 PM
The only thing you could hope with the Barnett release/trade issue, is that some team really wants him and does not want him to go on the market. That is the only card that Packers could play with, because yeah, if no one wants to trade for him, then the Packers have to cut him.

PackerLegend
07-26-2011, 10:46 PM
Rodgers: re-signing James Jones should be top priority (http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/126217363.html)

James had some huge drops last year but he also did make quite a few big plays. I dont believe that drops will plague him forever and i hate to see him go anywhere. It is a lot of money to lock up but maybe he could give us a nice break... who am I kidding... just go to the AFC :(

Tausch with that salary no way... only way he is back is if he takes a huge paycut and even then im not so sure we want him back. Age is getting up there.

BloodBrother
07-27-2011, 12:05 AM
Rodgers also wanted Ruvell Martin back badly. I don't see the Pack bringing JOnes back. They'll get outpriced by some WR hungry team and the Pack won't pay up. He's the #4 or so option on this offense, so they won't invest too much cash into that

It's FA, I don't expect Thompson to do much other than re-sign maybe Kuhn/Jackson. Crosby was said to be re-signing so that's that.

princefielder28
07-27-2011, 07:47 AM
Mason Crosby agrees to a five year deal

bigboiajhawk
07-27-2011, 08:04 AM
Mason Crosby agrees to a five year deal

Not surprised at all, I just pray that every year he is in the league his accuracy improves. Every time he kicks it from 40+ I never feel good until it goes through.

He was the obvious one, now it gets harder with guys like Hall, Kuhn, Bjax, James Jones, Colledge, and Spitz.

I know Arod's message was we need to resign JJ, but did anyone expect him to say anything else. He wasn't going to say oh we need to get rid of him, he dropped too many clutch balls last year.

I think the Packers will keep Kuhn, unless some team wants to spend too much on him.

I really hope that TT brings back Spitz for another season, because at one point in his career played really well.

BloodBrother
07-27-2011, 09:19 AM
one or, or maybe both of Kuhn/Jackson will be back. That's it IMO

princefielder28
07-27-2011, 09:26 AM
one or, or maybe both of Kuhn/Jackson will be back. That's it IMO

If Kuhn comes back then there's zero chance Jackson would be back. I don't think Jackson will be back regardless and if Kuhn is here then he can serve as the team's #1 FB and at the very least the #4 RB, leaving zero use for Jackson

BloodBrother
07-27-2011, 09:33 AM
it will most likely come down to who is cheaper between the 2

princefielder28
07-27-2011, 09:41 AM
it will most likely come down to who is cheaper between the 2

I don't even think money will be that big of an issue; we're talking about a fullback and backup running back, positions that aren't commanding of lots of money...I think it's a simple decision: which player provides you with more? Kuhn can serve as the team's fullback and short yardage back while Jackson showed he's only useful as a blocking back and is absolutely no threat with the ball in his hands. Is the team going to keep four running backs for game days (Grant, Starks, Green, Jackson)? Absolutely not. If you can kill two birds with one stone when filling out a NFL roster then you do it, especially when one guy has proven much more useful and reliable than the other.

BloodBrother
07-27-2011, 09:55 AM
Not surprised at all, I just pray that every year he is in the league his accuracy improves. Every time he kicks it from 40+ I never feel good until it goes through.



I feel the same, but he really has been pretty solid inside 50 during his career, fwiw

from the Green Bay Press Gazette

Inside 50 yards, Crosby has made 97 of 116 field goals (83.6%). The Packers clearly factored that into the equation when they decided to offer Crosby a five-year contract that averages nearly $3 million per season.

that % actually surprised me. Of course, inside 50 you'd hope they would make most of them. I wonder what his career % is on FG's in the 41-50 range.

PackerLegend
07-27-2011, 03:48 PM
that % actually surprised me. Of course, inside 50 you'd hope they would make most of them. I wonder what his career % is on FG's in the 41-50 range.

Mason Crosby

0-19 Yards, 4-4 (100%)
20-29 Yards, 36-37 (97%)
30-39 Yards, 31-38 (82%)
40-49 Yards, 26-37 (70%)
50+ Yards, 10-21 (48%)


107-137 Alltime 78.1%



Ryan Longwell In GB
97-98 - 80.0%
98-99 - 87.9%
99-00 - 83.3%
00-01 - 86.8%
01-02 - 64.5%
02-03 - 82.4%
03-04 - 88.5%
04-05 - 85.7%
05-06 - 74.1%

Mason Crosby
07-08 - 79.5%
08-09 - 79.4%
09-10 - 75.0%
10-11 - 78.6%

50+ Yards
Longwell - 9 Years - 13-22 (59%)
Crosby - 4 Years - 10-21 (48%)

So Crosby has attempted just shy of 1 less 50 yarder in 5 less years but Longwell was 11% better at making them.

jackalope
07-27-2011, 03:49 PM
Per Jason Wilde, Green Bay is making an effort to keep James Jones, which is good to hear.

I know John Kuhn is going to test the market, but I find it hard to imagine him actually leaving. He has too good of a thing going in Green Bay. I also think Jackson was done the moment Alex Green was drafted.

J-Mike88
07-27-2011, 03:57 PM
Per Jason Wilde, Green Bay is making an effort to keep James Jones, which is good to hear.

I know John Kuhn is going to test the market, but I find it hard to imagine him actually leaving. He has too good of a thing going in Green Bay. I also think Jackson was done the moment Alex Green was drafted.
I'm glad to hear that, I want to keep the guy even though he causes more of us to fire remote controls off the wall (or thru window) than any other player.

I wonder who and what type of $ some other team might throw at him. I would expect a team like the Bears to overpay him.

PackerLegend
07-27-2011, 04:08 PM
Per Jason Wilde, Green Bay is making an effort to keep James Jones, which is good to hear.

I know John Kuhn is going to test the market, but I find it hard to imagine him actually leaving. He has too good of a thing going in Green Bay. I also think Jackson was done the moment Alex Green was drafted.

Jennings
Driver
Nelson
Jones
Cobb

That would be so sick! Jackson I could care less about.

J-Mike88
07-27-2011, 04:32 PM
Mason Crosby
Ryan Longwell In GB
97-98 - 80.0%
98-99 - 87.9%
99-00 - 83.3%
00-01 - 86.8%
01-02 - 64.5%
02-03 - 82.4%
03-04 - 88.5%
04-05 - 85.7%
05-06 - 74.1%

Mason Crosby
07-08 - 79.5%
08-09 - 79.4%
09-10 - 75.0%
10-11 - 78.6%
Wow, that illustrates how horsecrap Crosby has been.
All I remember are all the LAST-SECOND failures.
But overall numbers are pathetic.

PackerLegend
07-27-2011, 05:06 PM
Wow, that illustrates how horsecrap Crosby has been.
All I remember are all the LAST-SECOND failures.But overall numbers are pathetic.

He is alright but compared to what Longwell did in GB it appears he could do much better. Those last second failures are burned in my mind and im sure all Pack fans. I still have very little confidence in him and at the end of games whatever I did have turns to 0.

cvv84
07-27-2011, 05:13 PM
Crosby is still a very good kick but he has been inconsistant at times. Yeah he hasn't been our 'Ryan Longwell' but thats a good thing - means Crosby has the leg to attempt the 50+ kicks. Take away his career total of 10-21 from 50+ and he's an 83% career average kicker.


Horsecrap? Check again.

bigboiajhawk
07-27-2011, 06:22 PM
I like Crosby but he just brings my heart rate to a level that is just too high.

In other news, it sounds like most of the Packers FA's will be released with maybe the intention of signing James Jones. I don't quite buy it because I think Jones goes the FA route anyway to determine what his market value is. I would love to see Jones back, his poorly timed drops and all, because the dude is built like a tank and is actually very athletic.

With that said the whole WR situation is a little messy. I mean I don't want to question DD's durability, but he needs to stay healthy with the kind of $ he is deservedly getting paid, and he needs to perform at the level that commands that pay. I am also not sold on Jordy, he too has his share of drops. I think Jones in terms of WR ability has more than Nelson, but Nelson fits better into what we do offensively. I think Jordy is more comfortable also not being the go-to guy, whereas Jones wants to be that guy.

I could see the James Jones signing or releasing going one of two ways. We sign him and not Jordy next season, or we sign Jordy next season and let Jones go. Either way, I do not see us keeping both of those guys. So needless to say, what happens this week will determine Jordy's status, IMO.

The sick part about our WR corps is that all of our WR's after DD retires in 2 or 3 years will be in their early 30's/ late 20's (except for Cobb and UDFA's), so they will be in the prime of their careers with Rodgers in the prime of his career, so we are going to have a very nice long run at some Superbowls.

J-Mike88
07-27-2011, 09:35 PM
I like Crosby but he just brings my heart rate to a level that is just too high.
And that's because he's had too many misses, especially the game-winning/losing kicks at the end of games.

If he just makes the clutch ones, all else will be forgiven.... he can change it around.

In other news, I'm thrilled to see Sidney Rice leave for Seattle.

PackerLegend
07-27-2011, 11:01 PM
In other news, I'm thrilled to see Sidney Rice leave for Seattle.

Who isnt... now all we need is the Vikings to trade us Peterson for Justin Harrell lol.. that would be the day that I drop dead.

BloodBrother
07-27-2011, 11:34 PM
hopefully Crosboy gets better with age. Seems that happens to a lot of kickers

BloodBrother
07-28-2011, 09:29 AM
Vikings making a serious run at James Jones. In other news, the sky is blue

Vikes can't get enough of the former packers players

BloodBrother
07-28-2011, 03:19 PM
The Justin Harrell era is officially over. Easily TT's biggest flop of a pick

Along with Harrell, Poppinga is being released as well. So thats Barnett, Harrell and Poppinga who are gone for sure right now

So to recap so far:

Additions:
*Mason Crosby - re-signed to 5yr/14.75 mill with 3 mill guaranteed

Cuts:
* Brandon Chillar
* Justin Harrell
* Brady Poppinga

UFA:
*Cullen Jenkins - Saints, Cowboys and Denver the likely suitors right now
*James Jones - Talks of him being close to heading to Minny. GB "monitoring" his situation
*John Kuhn - Agent has had talks with GB. Expects to be back
*Atari Bigby - haven't heard a thing...he's obviously not back though
*Korey Hall - reports are that he may be close to signing with Saints


Players Lost:
*Daryn Colledge - signs 5yr/28 mill with Arizona. $8 mill guaranteed, $14 mill in first 2 years
*Brandon Jackson - signs 2yr/4.5 mill with Cleveland
*Jason Spitz - Signs with Jacksonville


Also confirmed list of the 15 UDFA that the Pack have signed


* Tori Gurley, WR, South Carolina
* Anthony Bratton, S, Delaware
* Shaky Smithson, WR/KR, Utah
* Brandon Saine, RB, Ohio St
* Kerry Taylor, WR, Arizona St
* Jamari Lattimore, OLB, Middle Tennessee
* Sampson Genus, C, South Florida
* Ray Dominguez, G, Arkansas
* Brandian Ross, CB, Youngstown St.
* Eli Joseph, LB, Temple
* M.D. Jennings, CB, Arkansas St
* Jon Hoese, FB, Minnesota
* Diondre Borel, WR, Utah St
* Theo Sherman, T, James Madison
* Vic So’oto, LB, BYU

cvv84
07-28-2011, 03:53 PM
D.J. Williams agent is reporting that he's negotiating his clients deal right now and expects it to be done by the end of the day. At least one draft pick should be in for camp tomorrow.

PackerLegend
07-28-2011, 04:10 PM
D.J. Williams agent is reporting that he's negotiating his clients deal right now and expects it to be done by the end of the day. At least one draft pick should be in for camp tomorrow.

It shouldnt be hard to get all of them signed with the new system... If they arent all signed by tonight then I guess by tomorrow they would be.

Why are we talking to B Jackson... there is no reason for him.. Grant, Starks, Green. I do want Kuhn back and then he could also play a little RB if needed.

I saw that by the end of the day the Packers are expected to make 2 more cuts... any ideas? I would say Mark Tauscher is one. Korey Hall maybe I have no idea.

J-Mike88
07-28-2011, 04:28 PM
It shouldnt be hard to get all of them signed with the new system... If they arent all signed by tonight then I guess by tomorrow they would be.

Why are we talking to B Jackson... there is no reason for him.. Grant, Starks, Green. I do want Kuhn back and then he could also play a little RB if needed.

I saw that by the end of the day the Packers are expected to make 2 more cuts... any ideas? I would say Mark Tauscher is one. Korey Hall maybe I have no idea.
I like BJax, but don't see room for him.... unless..... they are prepared to deal Ryan Grant away and rely on Starks as the main man, with Alex Green as the #2 guy and keep BJax as 3rd down blocking extraordinaire.

?

What are y'alls thoughts about teams like the Patriots, Eagles, Jets (if they somehow land Nnamdi) adding solid talent... lotta teams adding good pieces, while we can't afford to add anyone, but are losing pieces here and there?
I know, we get some guys off IR though, and have a couple of key rookies who might help out right away.

I know we can't be players in free agency, but I want to keep Cullen and Jones.
I don't like the Patriots and think their addition of Albert was a coup for them.

I know of at least 2 teams (Buffalo and KC) who want Barnett. Why the hell couldn't we get anything for him? Damn. Hate to give players away for free.

If the system is the same, we're gonna get some great comp picks in next year's draft.

PackerLegend
07-28-2011, 04:49 PM
No comp for Barnett or any of the other players that are cut. Only the FAs that we lose. But if we lose Jones and Jenkins plus we already lost Colledge it could be a pretty good pick.

I dont mind that we arent throwing money at the players some of these teams are. Sure a few work out but alot of times it seems to backfire on teams. I think TT has proven that his method keep building up during the draft and keeping your main guys works. Look at how many of our players are on other teams its pretty amazing. We could use help in certain spots but im not so sure we need to go out and throw money at these guys. FA is never very exciting for us but with how this team is built I can live with that.

J-Mike88
07-28-2011, 05:00 PM
No comp for Barnett or any of the other players that are cut. Only the FAs that we lose. But if we lose Jones and Jenkins plus we already lost Colledge it could be a pretty good pick.
As long as it's the same in this new Collective Bargaining Agreement, we should make out well losing Jenkins, Jones, and Colledge.

Teddy will make out like a bandit on Draft Day 2012.

Patriots just added Chad Ochocinco, hours after bringing in ALbert Haynesworth.

cvv84
07-28-2011, 05:02 PM
I dont mind that we arent throwing money at the players some of these teams are. Sure a few work out but alot of times it seems to backfire on teams. I think TT has proven that his method keep building up during the draft and keeping your main guys works. Look at how many of our players are on other teams its pretty amazing. We could use help in certain spots but im not so sure we need to go out and throw money at these guys. FA is never very exciting for us but with how this team is built I can live with that.

Completely agree. Teams are spending, trying to catch up while we sit back and continue to develop homegrown talent.

cvv84
07-28-2011, 05:05 PM
As long as it's the same in this new Collective Bargaining Agreement, we should make out well losing Jenkins, Jones, and Colledge.

Teddy will make out like a bandit on Draft Day 2012.

Patriots just added Chad Ochocinco, hours after bringing in ALbert Haynesworth.

Also Brandon Jackson, Jason Spitz, and Atari Bigby.