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Patriots16-0
02-09-2008, 07:42 AM
Now that a lot of 2008 schedules came out, I had an idea to create this thread.

North Carolina (http://northcarolina.scout.com/3/fbschedule.html)

Wk 1 - vs McNeese State - W 35-3
Wk 2 - @ Rutgers - L 17-28
Wk 3 - vs Virginia Tech - L 21-38
Wk 4 - @ Miami (FL) - L 24-30
Wk 5 - vs Connecticut - W 21-18
Wk 6 - vs Notre Dame - W 48-42, overtime
Wk 7 - @ Virginia - L 10-17
Wk 8 - vs Boston College - W 21-20
Wk 9 - vs Georgia Tech - W 13-10
Wk 10 - @ Maryland - L 37-35
Wk 11 - vs NC State - W 28-13
Wk 12 - @ Duke - W 30-7

Record: 7-5, #5 in ACC (4-4), ranked #24, making a bowl

BigJohn98
02-09-2008, 07:51 AM
9/6 WESTERN CAROLINA Tallahassee W
9/13 UT-CHATTANOOGA Tallahassee W
9/20 WAKE FOREST Tallahassee W
9/27 Colorado Jacksonville W
10/4 Miami Miami L
10/11 Open week
10/16 NC State Raleigh, NC (Thurs night) L
10/25 Virginia Tech Tallahassee W
11/1 Georgia Tech Atlanta, GA W
11/8 Clemson Tallahassee W
11/15 Boston College Tallahassee W
11/22 Maryland College Park, MD W
11/29 Florida Tallahassee L

Final reg. season record- 9-3

Forenci
02-09-2008, 08:01 AM
Now that a lot of 2008 schedules came out, I had an idea to create this thread.

North Carolina (http://northcarolina.scout.com/3/fbschedule.html)

Wk 1 - vs McNeese State - W 35-3
Wk 2 - @ Rutgers - L 17-28
Wk 3 - vs Virginia Tech - L 21-38
Wk 4 - @ Miami (FL) - L 24-30
Wk 5 - vs Connecticut - W 21-18
Wk 6 - vs Notre Dame - W 48-42, overtime
Wk 7 - @ Virginia - L 10-17
Wk 8 - vs Boston College - W 21-20
Wk 9 - vs Georgia Tech - W 13-10
Wk 10 - @ Maryland - L 37-35
Wk 11 - vs NC State - W 28-13
Wk 12 - @ Duke - W 30-7

Record: 7-5, #5 in ACC (4-4), ranked #24, making a bowl

North Carolina has made some big improvements with Butch Davis, but I honestly don't see them 7-5. I think Notre Dame, BC, GT, and NC State won't have much of an issue with North Carolina.

Also, and this may be bias as I do go to UConn and love the program, but with most of our offense and defense returning (and improving in same cases) I feel like we'll handle NC without much of an issue. Jared Lorenzen with another year of the system under his belt will make him that much better.

Like I said though, I love UConn, so take that for what it's worth.

I'll probably do one for UConn later, too.

Patriots16-0
02-09-2008, 08:23 AM
Also, and this may be bias as I do go to UConn and love the program, but with most of our offense and defense returning (and improving in same cases) I feel like we'll handle NC without much of an issue. Jared Lorenzen with another year of the system under his belt will make him that much better.


I thought Jared Lorenzen was a NFL QB with the Giants.

Patriots16-0
02-09-2008, 08:24 AM
9/6 WESTERN CAROLINA Tallahassee W
9/13 UT-CHATTANOOGA Tallahassee W
9/20 WAKE FOREST Tallahassee W
9/27 Colorado Jacksonville W
10/4 Miami Miami L
10/11 Open week
10/16 NC State Raleigh, NC (Thurs night) L
10/25 Virginia Tech Tallahassee W
11/1 Georgia Tech Atlanta, GA W
11/8 Clemson Tallahassee W
11/15 Boston College Tallahassee W
11/22 Maryland College Park, MD W
11/29 Florida Tallahassee L

Final reg. season record- 9-3

Please say the name of the team.

Tampa 2 4 life
02-09-2008, 08:59 AM
Please say the name of the team.

It's FSU. every home game is in tallahassee...

P-L
02-09-2008, 09:33 AM
Michigan

Aug. 30 Utah - LOSS (First game of the Rich Rod era, team will struggle to gel against underrated Utah)
Sept. 6 Miami (OH.) - WIN (Not a very good team, easy "W")
Sept. 13 at Notre Dame - WIN (Notre Dame is improving, but U-M good enough to pull one out on the road)
Sept. 27 Wisconsin* - LOSS (At home and coming off two consecutive wins, but Wisconsin just a little too much)
Oct. 4 Illinois* - WIN (Both teams lose key pieces but we beat them last year on the road without Hart or Henne)
Oct. 11 Toledo - WIN (Easiest game on the schedule)
Oct. 18 at Penn State* (HC) - LOSS (They have to win one eventually... It's now or never)
Oct. 25 Michigan State - WIN (Little brother had their chance last year, not good enough to win on the road this year)
Nov. 1 at Purdue* - WIN (Could give U-M problems, but this is a "should-win")
Nov. 8 at Minnesota* - WIN (Minnesota's headed in the right direction, but still a few years away)
Nov. 15 Northwestern* - WIN (We got a streak going against Northwestern, not going to end this year at home)
Nov. 22 at Ohio State* - LOSS (Not this year, but we finally break the streak in 2009)

Final Record: 8-4 (5-3)

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
02-09-2008, 09:38 AM
Illinois* - WIN (Both teams lose key pieces but we beat them last year on the road without Hart or Henne)



I can't wait for this one. Hopefully the Illini can pull it out next fall.

DeathbyStat
02-09-2008, 09:46 AM
Penn State

2008
Aug. 30 COASTAL CAROLINA W 35-10
Sept. 6 OREGON STATE W 17-14
Sept. 13 at Syracuse W 24-10
Sept. 20 TEMPLE W 35-17
Sept. 27 ILLINOIS (1) L 24-17
Oct. 4 at Purdue W 21-14
Oct. 11 at Wisconsin L 42-24
Oct. 18 MICHIGAN (2) L 21-24
Oct. 25 at Ohio State L 45-10
Nov. 8 at Iowa W 24-17
Nov. 15 INDIANA W 35-14
Nov. 22 MICHIGAN STATE W 17-10

8-4, but it could easily 6-6 or worse it all hinges on Daryl Clark's play at QB

Jonny
02-09-2008, 09:49 AM
Rutgers still hasn't released its 2008 schedule. Assuming it's a weak OOC opponent, I think we'll win all the OOC games (UNC, Navy, Army, I-AA, ?). BE games are UConn, Syracuse, Louisville at home. We'll win those. @Pitt, @Cincy, @USF are tossups, and we'll probably lose @West Virginia.

Forenci
02-09-2008, 10:22 AM
I thought Jared Lorenzen was a NFL QB with the Giants.

Whoops, sorry. Force of habit, being a Giants fan an all. I meant Tyler Lorenzen, haha. Though they are both big QB's.

Patriots16-0
02-09-2008, 10:29 AM
8-4, but it could easily 6-6 or worse it all hinges on Daryl Clark's play at QB

Really, I watched him at the Alamo Bowl and I can't figure him as a QB.

BigJohn98
02-09-2008, 10:30 AM
Please say the name of the team.

The fact that every home game is in Tallahassee means that my team is...

Patriots16-0
02-09-2008, 10:34 AM
The fact that every home game is in Tallahassee means that my team is...

FSU, I know. But put the name of the team, just to get this thread more organized.

Rich Jr
02-09-2008, 10:41 AM
10-2 We play UGA/UF in the SECCG.

Aug 30 Appalachian St.-Win
Sep 06 Troy-Win
Sep 13 North Texas-Win
Sep 20 Auburn *-Win
Sep 27 Mississippi State *-Win
Oct 11 Florida *-Lose
Oct 18 South Carolina *-Win
Oct 25 Georgia *-Lose
Nov 01 Tulane-Win
Nov 08 Alabama *-Win
Nov 22 Ole Miss *-Win
Nov 29 Arkansas *-Win

MaxV
02-09-2008, 10:45 AM
Really, I watched him at the Alamo Bowl and I can't figure him as a QB.

How do you figure? You didn't see him throw a pass.

Patriots16-0
02-09-2008, 10:50 AM
How do you figure? You didn't see him throw a pass.

I think he has more a WR size, and honestly he is the fastest QB I ever saw, so WR is my pick.

dolfan
02-09-2008, 10:53 AM
2008 University Of Miami Hurricanes

Thurs., Aug. 28 CHARLESTON SOUTHERN WIN

Sat., Sept. 6 at Florida LOST

Sat., Sept. 13 Open date

Sat., Sept. 20 at Texas A&M WIN

Sat., Sept. 27 NORTH CAROLINA WIN

Sat., Oct. 4 FLORIDA STATE WIN

Sat., Oct. 11 CENTRAL FLORIDA WIN

Sat., Oct. 18 at Duke WIN

Sat., Oct. 25 WAKE FOREST* WIN

Sat., Nov. 1 at Virginia WIN

Sat. Nov. 8 Open date

Thurs., Nov. 13 VIRGINIA TECH LOST

Thurs., Nov. 20 at Georgia Tech WIN

Sat., Nov. 29 at North Carolina State WIN


with an improved Defense, we should win the close games like FSU, GT, NC STATE....

MaxV
02-09-2008, 10:57 AM
I think he has more a WR size, and honestly he is the fastest QB I ever saw, so WR is my pick.

Well he won't play WR next year, he'll play QB.

keylime_5
02-09-2008, 11:04 AM
W
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W

DeathbyStat
02-09-2008, 11:07 AM
Really, I watched him at the Alamo Bowl and I can't figure him as a QB.


He he didn't attempt a pass in the Alamo Bowl...he will be our starting qb next year

Hines
02-09-2008, 11:10 AM
Clark and Delvin are hopefully the Tebow and Leak for the Big Ten. Doubt it though.

Rich Jr
02-09-2008, 11:11 AM
W
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W

If that's an SEC team that's a guaranteed L

kwilk103
02-09-2008, 11:11 AM
VILLANOVA -----easy win
TBA Sat 9/6 at East Carolina -----easy win
TBA at Colorado ----should be a win, but the thin air concerns me
TBA Sat 9/27 MARSHALL ----easy win
TBA SOUTH FLORIDA ----toss up; homefield advantage (last time students were on break); ill say win
TBA SYRACUSE ----easy win
TBA Thu Oct. 23 AUBURN pretty good team; its in oct, but they still have a young qb and a new system; win
TBA RUTGERS ----its rugters; even when they had their best team, and we had a back-up qb, we won; beating rutgers, its what we do
TBA at Louisville ----breaking in a new qb, its away, but should be a win
TBA CINCINNATI ----tough game if mauk is back; if not we roll, but win either way
TBA at Connecticut ----we roll
TBA at Pittsburgh ----after last years debacle, something to prove; their d coord left which is a good thing; our d should be clicking by them; they have no homefield advantage

im saying 12-0 best case (which is realistic) and worse case 9-3 (losses to usf, colorado, auburn); im gonna say 11-1 with an early season loss to colorado

defense is young, less expierianced than last year, but more talented; juco guys will help out; should be clicking by years end; white/devine/kerns in the backfield will keep us in every game; just need a wr to step up

Forenci
02-09-2008, 11:13 AM
W
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W

L - To another SEC team in the national championship game again.

Just thought I'd fix it for ya there Keylime.

Patriots16-0
02-09-2008, 11:15 AM
W
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W

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L

DeathbyStat
02-09-2008, 11:16 AM
W
W
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W
W
W
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W

L

L*

*In the BCS National Title Game

DeathbyStat
02-09-2008, 11:19 AM
Clark and Delvin are hopefully the Tebow and Leak for the Big Ten. Doubt it though.

If Galen Hall had a clue...we could pull it off and it would be sweet.

kwilk103
02-09-2008, 11:24 AM
the only way osu gets in the nc is if they are undefeated or are at least 1 game better than the #2 ranked team; for example:

lets say fla (11-1); wvu/ou (11-1); osu (11-1) are ranked 1,2,3 after the sec champ game (fla would be 12-1, not sure though); could anyone else see the pollsters putting in wvu/ou/etc in over osu just because they think someone else deserves a shot?

619
02-09-2008, 11:28 AM
2008 USC Trojans

Date Opponent
Aug. 30 at Virginia - W
Sept. 13 Ohio State - L
Sept. 25 at Oregon State - W
Oct. 4 Oregon - W
Oct. 11 Arizona State - W
Oct. 18 at Washington State - W
Oct. 25 at Arizona - W
Nov. 1 Washington - W
Nov. 8 California - W
Nov. 15 at Stanford - W
Nov. 29 Notre Dame - W
Dec. 6 at UCLA - W

Record: 11-1 (9-0)

ironman4579
02-09-2008, 11:29 AM
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W-You play USC at USC. I think you'll win it too, but at least give reasons. I don't think it's an automatic win by any means.
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W-I just left this one because everyone's already said it

And this is why people hate Ohio State.

BigJohn98
02-09-2008, 11:34 AM
Ohio State will not beat USC at USC.

BigJohn98
02-09-2008, 11:35 AM
W
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W

I think it's safe to say that you are the biggest homer on the board.

619
02-09-2008, 11:36 AM
Ohio State will not beat USC at USC.

Perfect season then lol. But then again theres always that one surprise game you dont see coming.

BamaFalcon59
02-09-2008, 11:47 AM
Virginia Tech, if they can beat FSU and Virginia, has a chance of going undefeated before a tough game at Clemson and if they made it getting manhandled in the NC game.

I would say

East Carolina- W
Furman- W
Georgia Tech- W
North Carolina- W
Nebraska- L
Western Kentucky- W
Boston College- W
Florida State- L
Maryland- W
Miami, Fl.- W
Duke- W
Virginia- W
Clemson- L
Bowl Game- W

11-3

Seems really good for a team losing so many defensive starters, but the schedule is cake and the offense will be better.

Sniper
02-09-2008, 11:53 AM
at Penn State* (HC)[/FONT] - LOSS (They have to win one eventually... It's now or never)[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]


Listen to P-L and his jokes....

Sniper
02-09-2008, 11:56 AM
the only way osu gets in the nc is if they are undefeated or are at least 1 game better than the #2 ranked team; for example:

lets say fla (11-1); wvu/ou (11-1); osu (11-1) are ranked 1,2,3 after the sec champ game (fla would be 12-1, not sure though); could anyone else see the pollsters putting in wvu/ou/etc in over osu just because they think someone else deserves a shot?

Not if OSU beats SC @ SC. And WVU plays nobody (yet again)

dabears10
02-09-2008, 11:56 AM
Notre Dame

Sept. 6 SAN DIEGO STATE W
Sept. 13 MICHIGAN L (it will be closer than people would expect, I think a TD or less)
Sept. 20 at Michigan State (W Dantonio is better than Smith but still meh)
Sept. 27 PURDUE (W I think we get them at home, if it at Purdue we Lose)
Oct. 4 STANFORD (W They are not very good)
Oct. 11 at North Carolina (W North Carolina people are very convinced they are good, I don't see it yet)
Oct. 18 Open Date
Oct. 25 at Washington (W Jake Locker vs ND, yeah he's good but he'd still lose to Ditka)
Nov. 1 PITTSBURGH (L I think Pittsburgh will be good this year)
Nov. 8 at Boston College (L At this point people will say Weis is an overrated coach again after people are like he went 6-1 to 6-3)
Nov. 15 at Navy (Baltimore) (W The players don't lose to Navy twice in a row)
Nov. 22 SYRACUSE (W Not a very good team.)
Nov. 29 at USC (L USC will be hitting at all cylinders by this point, hope for injuries....)

Bowl Game we dont deserve, so we play better competition than our team so i will say W. Because i just want to see a bowl win, please?

8-4 regular season and 9-4 hopefully after a bowl win. More attributed to a schedule than a good team, improving on last year at least.

SuperMcGee
02-09-2008, 12:14 PM
Buffalo - I'm terribly optimistic about this year. Let me have that.

Out of conference
@Missouri - Loss. Derp.
@Pittsburgh - Loss
Army - Win
UTEP - Win

MAC
Akron - Win
Bowling Green - Loss
E. Michigan - I'll say Win
Kent St. - Win
Miami (OH) - Win
Ohio - Win
Temple - Win
W. Michigan - Loss

8-4 (6-2)

We were 5-3 in the conference last year, and we have two OOC games this year that are more winnable than any we had last year.

Patriots16-0
02-09-2008, 12:18 PM
Buffalo - I'm terribly optimistic about this year. Let me have that.

Out of conference
@Missouri - Loss. Derp.
@Pittsburgh - Loss
Army - Win
UTEP - Win

MAC
Akron - Win
Bowling Green - Loss
E. Michigan - I'll say Win
Kent St. - Win
Miami (OH) - Win
Ohio - Win
Temple - Win
W. Michigan - Loss

8-4 (6-2)

We were 5-3 in the conference last year, and we have two OOC games this year that are more winnable than any we had last year.

Hey man, are you okay? Buffalo getting 8-4? LMAO.

etk
02-09-2008, 12:19 PM
2008 University Of Miami Hurricanes

Thurs., Aug. 28 CHARLESTON SOUTHERN - Win. Need to get that passing game clicking here.

Sat., Sept. 6 at Florida - Win. Not trying to be a homer, but **** UF. This is the game where everything goes right and I love our chances with Young's defense. I just wish Patchan was healthy so we could blitz right up his ass and injure Tebow in his face.

Sat., Sept. 13 Open

Sat., Sept. 20 at Texas A&M - Loss. This one will be close, and probably one of the more high-scoring games. I think we have trouble with Goodson and co. but I'd love to see a pouting Jorvorskie Lane once again.

Sat., Sept. 27 NORTH CAROLINA - Win. North Carolina is always tough, but I think we actually win this one convincingly.

Sat., Oct. 4 FLORIDA STATE - Win. Same ol' Weathersuck, only this time we should have a decent QB to actually get rid of the ball and score.

Sat., Oct. 11 CENTRAL FLORIDA - Win. A game we should win easily but I think it comes down to a late FG for us, or a block/miss.

Sat., Oct. 18 at Duke - Win. I'd take Duke to cover the spread as always, but no way we lose to Duke.

Sat., Oct. 25 WAKE FOREST* - Loss. WF really scares me.

Sat., Nov. 1 at Virginia - Win. I'd easily chalk this one up as a loss, but UVA has had a crummy offseason.

Sat. Nov. 8 Open date

Thurs., Nov. 13 VIRGINIA TECH - Win. This one's a Thursday game, right? Arthur Brown vs. Tyrod Taylor will be a fun one. I think we'll have trouble with the run but VT loses a lot on D.

Thurs., Nov. 20 at Georgia Tech Loss. Ugh, GT spoiler here we come.

Sat., Nov. 29 at North Carolina State - Win. I really don't like the idea of GT/NCST back to back on the road. I could see us lose both, but we gotta win 1/2.

Clemson in ACCCG? Definite loss.

Bowl game. Win no matter what.

10-4. That's probably our max but I think I was fair. We have a ton of talent but we need to let the cream rise to the top. We won't go worse than 8-5.

kwilk103
02-09-2008, 12:21 PM
Not if OSU beats SC @ SC. And WVU plays nobody (yet again)

auburn---top 25
colorado---rising program

we wont do 2-1 anymore; we always leave an open date for anyone that wants a 1-1, but nobody will take it

and its tough to get teams when miami and vt leave suddenly; it would be like taking osu and psu out of the big 10 and replacing them with like memphis

keylime_5
02-09-2008, 12:22 PM
And this is why people hate Ohio State.

USC loses John David Booty, Fred Davis, Chilo Rachal, Drew Radovich, Sam Baker, Sedrick Ellis, Lawrence Jackson, Keith Rivers, and Terrell Thomas. Those are all very good players.

Ohio State loses Larry Grant, Kirk Barton, and Dionte Johnson. That's our 3rd best LB, a fullback, and our right tackle. We are gonna be loaded next year and we played better on the road last year for the most part than at home. I don't doubt that we'll go 12-0 in the regular season. It all depends on who we play in the NC game when we get there. Hopefully WVU or Oklahoma, Mizzou, etc.

And, hey, if we go to the NC game in our rebuilding year (2007), a year when we were supposed to be the 10th or 12th best team, then in a year when we're supposed to be a top 5 team I think we'll be a lot better.

etk
02-09-2008, 12:25 PM
Yeah I agree...OSU has as good a chance at an undefeated RS as anyone. The question is what happens if they make the NC?

BrownsTown
02-09-2008, 12:25 PM
OSU 11-2

Loss to USC, and I'll throw in an upset or bowl loss in there.

ironman4579
02-09-2008, 12:33 PM
USC loses John David Booty, Fred Davis, Chilo Rachal, Drew Radovich, Sam Baker, Sedrick Ellis, Lawrence Jackson, Keith Rivers, and Terrell Thomas. Those are all very good players.

Ohio State loses Larry Grant, Kirk Barton, and Dionte Johnson. That's our 3rd best LB, a fullback, and our right tackle. We are gonna be loaded next year and we played better on the road last year for the most part than at home. I don't doubt that we'll go 12-0 in the regular season. It all depends on who we play in the NC game when we get there. Hopefully WVU or Oklahoma, Mizzou, etc.

I'm not saying that you won't beat USC. What I'm saying is that when you just go

W
W
W
W

and don't even put the teams that you play down, it makes you seem cocky and arrogant, which is the reason most people hate OSU. I don't think you can discount losing Gholston either.

SuperMcGee
02-09-2008, 12:39 PM
Hey man, are you okay? Buffalo getting 8-4? LMAO.

You're right, teams never improve. Especially in terrible conferences with good coaching and a bunch of returning starters.

soybean
02-09-2008, 01:10 PM
Perfect season then lol. But then again theres always that one surprise game you dont see coming.

surprise? USC never looks past an OOC opponent.

even if they lose it'll be within 7.

NMUBurner22
02-09-2008, 01:16 PM
UM Wolverines

Utah - 45-28.

Miami Ohio- 34-0.

@ Notre Dame- 28-14

Wisconsin- 21-10

Illinois- 42-17

Toledo- 35-10

@Penn St.- 21-24

Michigan State- 31-21

@Purdue- 17-14

@Minnesota- 28-20

Northwestern- 55-14

@ Ohio State- 13-10





Michigan Wolverines

12-0.

619
02-09-2008, 01:17 PM
surprise? USC never looks past an OOC opponent.

even if they lose it'll be within 7.

I was referring to a surprise/upset loss in general which is bound to happen. UCLA is one game Id really worry about on our schedule with their new revamped coaching staff.

ironman4579
02-09-2008, 01:19 PM
UM Wolverines

Utah - 45-28.

Miami Ohio- 34-0.

@ Notre Dame- 28-14

Wisconsin- 21-10

Illinois- 42-17

Toledo- 35-10

@Penn St.- 21-24

Michigan State- 31-21

@Purdue- 17-14

@Minnesota- 28-20

Northwestern- 55-14

@ Ohio State- 13-10





Michigan Wolverines

12-0.

I hate to say it, but PL's prediction is alot more realistic right now IMO.

M.O.T.H.
02-09-2008, 01:33 PM
All I know is South Carolina is taking down Georgia again this year.

NMUBurner22
02-09-2008, 05:11 PM
I hate to say it, but PL's prediction is alot more realistic right now IMO.

We might have the easiest sched in the country.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
02-09-2008, 05:23 PM
We might have the easiest sched in the country.

Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Illinois will all have something to say about that. All three of them will give you guys a game, and I think all three are capable of beating Michigan next fall.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
02-09-2008, 05:31 PM
Illinois Fighting Illini

Aug. 30 - vs. Missouri (in St. Louis) = L
Sept. 6 - vs. Eastern Illinois = W
Sept. 13 - vs. Louisiana-Lafayette = w
Sept. 27 - @ Penn State = W
Oct. 4 - @ Michigan = W
Oct. 11 - vs. Minnesota = W
Oct. 18 - vs. Indiana = W
Oct. 25 - @ Wisconsin = L
Nov. 1 - vs. Iowa = W
Nov. 8 - vs. Western Michigan (in Detroit) = W
Nov. 15 - vs. Ohio State = L
Nov. 22 Northwestern = W

9-3 overall, 6-2 in the Big Ten

I think that Missouri will be tough, especially with Chase Daniel returning. I think that will be just as close as last year was. For Wisconsin, I just think that they will be very tough to beat up at Camp Randall. And I just don't think Jim Tressel will let Ohio State be beaten by the Illini two years in a row.

Sniper
02-09-2008, 05:34 PM
You're going to win in back to back weeks @ PSU and @ Michigan? Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sure.

draftguru151
02-09-2008, 06:23 PM
Thurs., Aug. 28 CHARLESTON SOUTHERN WIN

Sat., Sept. 6 at Florida LOSS

Sat., Sept. 13 Open date

Sat., Sept. 20 at Texas A&M WIN

Sat., Sept. 27 NORTH CAROLINA LOSS

Sat., Oct. 4 FLORIDA STATE WIN

Sat., Oct. 11 CENTRAL FLORIDA WIN

Sat., Oct. 18 at Duke WIN

Sat., Oct. 25 WAKE FOREST* WIN

Sat., Nov. 1 at Virginia LOSS

Sat. Nov. 8 Open date

Thurs., Nov. 13 VIRGINIA TECH LOSS

Thurs., Nov. 20 at Georgia Tech WIN

Sat., Nov. 29 at North Carolina State WIN

I think we go 8-4, though 7-5 and 9-3 wouldn't shock me. I think we'll lose one of the 3 against FSU, GT and NC. Beginning of the season might be a bit rocky so I went with NC.

BrownsTown
02-09-2008, 10:44 PM
Ugh...these threads are always so homeristic. (directing this at Kwilk and the Buffalo fan)

kwilk103
02-09-2008, 11:25 PM
Ugh...these threads are always so homeristic. (directing this at Kwilk and the Buffalo fan)

what? 12-0 is realistic; i said 11-1 (realistic), with at worse 9-3

yeyoistheman
02-09-2008, 11:43 PM
FLORIDA GATORS

Hawaii- Win 59-21

Miami, FL- Win 38-17

@ Tennessee- Win 44-21

Ole Miss- Win 45-14

@ Arkansas- Win 38-17

LSU- Win 31-21

Kentucky- Win 56-17

Georgia- Win 35-27

@ Vanderbilt- Win 44-10

South Carolina- Win 51-24

Citadel- Win 70-14

@ Florida State- Win 38-21

Florida could go 12-0 as they return most of their starters.
Worst case scenario I see them going 10-2 with losses o Georgia and LSU. Thats about it though.

M.O.T.H.
02-09-2008, 11:45 PM
51 points against the Gamecocks??? That aint happening....not this year.

yeyoistheman
02-09-2008, 11:51 PM
ARIZONA STATE SUN DEVILS

Northern Arizona- WIN

Stanford- WIN

UNLV- WIN

Georgia- Loss

@ California- Win

@ USC- Loss

Oregon- Win

@ Oregon State-Win

@ Washington- Win

Washington State- Win

UCLA- Win

@ Arizona- Win

I see 10-2 (8-1 Pac-10) as the best scenario
Worst case we lose to Cal, Oregon and Washington and UCLA and go 6-6 (4-5 Pac-10). Im looking at 9-3/10-2

Jonny
02-10-2008, 05:55 AM
TBA RUTGERS ----its rugters; even when they had their best team, and we had a back-up qb, we won; beating rutgers, its what we do

That's very arrogant. I don't expect to win, but Teel wasn't healthy at all in last year's game.

oregonbucfan
02-10-2008, 06:50 AM
Oregon Ducks


Sat, Aug 30 Washington win
Sat, Sep 06 Utah State win
Sat, Sep 13 @Purdue win
Sat, Sep 20 Boise State win
Sat, Sep 27 @Washington State win
Sat, Oct 11 UCLA win
Sat, Oct 25 @Arizona State L
Sat, Nov 01 @California L
Sat, Nov 08 Stanford win
Sat, Nov 15 Arizona win
Sat, Nov 22 @USC L
Sat, Nov 29 @Oregon State win

good chance we split vs ASU/Cal, 50/50 we lose at OSU or Purdue but at the end around 3 losses

Rich Jr
02-10-2008, 10:23 AM
To reiterate.

Aug 30 Appalachian St.-Win
Sep 06 Troy-Win
Sep 13 North Texas-Win
Sep 20 Auburn *-Win/Lose
Sep 27 Mississippi State *-Win
Oct 11 Florida *-Lose
Oct 18 South Carolina *-Win
Oct 25 Georgia *-Lose
Nov 01 Tulane-Win
Nov 08 Alabama *-Win/Lose
Nov 22 Ole Miss *-Win
Nov 29 Arkansas *-Win

We could very easily be 9-3 or undefeated. We have the talent.

Patriots16-0
02-10-2008, 10:44 AM
We might have the easiest sched in the country.

Good for you. North Carolina maybe have the #3 or #4 toughest.

Sniper
02-10-2008, 10:46 AM
To reiterate.

Aug 30 Appalachian St.-Win
Sep 06 Troy-Win
Sep 13 North Texas-Win
Sep 20 Auburn *-Win/Lose
Sep 27 Mississippi State *-Win
Oct 11 Florida *-Lose
Oct 18 South Carolina *-Win
Oct 25 Georgia *-Lose
Nov 01 Tulane-Win
Nov 08 Alabama *-Win/Lose
Nov 22 Ole Miss *-Win
Nov 29 Arkansas *-Win

We could very easily be 9-3 or undefeated. We have the talent.

Beware of the one man killing crew known as Armanti Edwards

andyjo672
02-10-2008, 11:13 AM
UM Wolverines

Utah - 45-28.

Miami Ohio- 34-0.

@ Notre Dame- 28-14

Wisconsin- 21-10

Illinois- 42-17

Toledo- 35-10

@Penn St.- 21-24

Michigan State- 31-21

@Purdue- 17-14

@Minnesota- 28-20

Northwestern- 55-14

@ Ohio State- 13-10





Michigan Wolverines

12-0.

Is this a joke? First off, to go 12-0, not happening. Tell me, who are you going to have at QB? Even if you got that guy out of Florida that will run your spread option, he'll be a freshman. All of your skill position players have left. Your top left tackle is gone. I predict 7-5 for the wolverines this year.

And to say that Minnesota will play you closer than Wisconsin, laughable.

andyjo672
02-10-2008, 11:14 AM
what? 12-0 is realistic; i said 11-1 (realistic), with at worse 9-3

How many years in a row are they going to talk about this being WVUs year to get to the NC Game...? Its getting ridiculous, always expect 2 disappointing losses, at least.

BamaFalcon59
02-10-2008, 11:20 AM
I would say Virginia Tech. has the easiest schedule. Virginia is the best team we play in the regular season.

Brent
02-10-2008, 11:29 AM
Texas A&M

8/30 Arkansas State - W
9/6 @ New Mexico - W
9/20 Miami (Fla.) - L
9/27 Army - W
10/4 @ Oklahoma State* - W
10/11 Kansas State* - L
10/18 Texas Tech* - L
10/25 @ Iowa State* - W
11/1 Colorado* - W
11/8 Oklahoma* - L
11/15 @ Baylor* - W
11/28 @ Texas* - W (I think we can make it 3 in a row)

8-4 record, make a bowl and lose said bowl. Finishing with an 8-5 record.

GB12
02-10-2008, 11:39 AM
Wisconsin vs Akron - W
Wisconsin vs Marshall - W
Wisconsin @ Fresno State - W
Wisconsin @ Michigan - W
Wisconsin vs Ohio State - W
Wisconsin vs Penn State - L
Wisconsin @ Iowa - L
Wisconsin vs Illinois - W
Wisconsin @ Michigan State - W
Wisconsin @ Indiana - L
Wisconsin vs Minnesota - W

8-3

Sniper
02-10-2008, 11:42 AM
Wisconsin vs Akron - W
Wisconsin vs Marshall - W
Wisconsin @ Fresno State - W
Wisconsin @ Michigan - W
Wisconsin vs Ohio State - W
Wisconsin vs Penn State - L
Wisconsin @ Iowa - L
Wisconsin vs Illinois - W
Wisconsin @ Michigan State - W
Wisconsin @ Indiana - L
Wisconsin vs Minnesota - W

8-3

How do you figure you beat OSU but lose to PSU, Iowa and Indiana??????

ironman4579
02-10-2008, 11:59 AM
We might have the easiest sched in the country.

Possibly. But our opponents had a combined 83-69 record last year. Not great certainly, but not terrible. Of the 12 teams we play, 10 of those, unless a freshman comes in, have returning starting QB's. Of those, 8 are seniors or juniors. We will be working in a brand new starting QB, a new offensive(and basically defensive) system. We lose Jake Long, Mike Hart, Chad Henne, Mario Manningham, Adrian Arrington, Shawn Crable, Jamar Adams, etc. Utah is an underrated team returning a senior QB. I'm sorry, I don't think we're beating them by like 20 points. OSU is returning a senior QB, a stud running back, and a good portion of a very good defense. I'm sorry, but us going undefeated is just a little unrealistic IMO. But hey, I hope you're right.

fenikz
02-10-2008, 01:20 PM
Miami Hurricanes

Charleston Southern - Win
@ Florida - Loss
@ Texas A&M - Win
North Carolina - Win
Florida State - Win
Central Florida - Win
@ Duke - Win
Wake Forest - Win
@ Virginia - Win
Virginia Tech - Loss
Georgia Tech - Win
@ North Carolina State - Win

Overall Record - 10-2

LonghornsLegend
02-10-2008, 01:39 PM
Texas A&M

8/30 Arkansas State - W
9/6 @ New Mexico - W
9/20 Miami (Fla.) - L
9/27 Army - W
10/4 @ Oklahoma State* - W
10/11 Kansas State* - L
10/18 Texas Tech* - L
10/25 @ Iowa State* - W
11/1 Colorado* - W
11/8 Oklahoma* - L
11/15 @ Baylor* - W
11/28 @ Texas* - W (I think we can make it 3 in a row)

8-4 record, make a bowl and lose said bowl. Finishing with an 8-5 record.



That game is always a toss up but I dont see A&M winning this year in Austin, what gives you the impression you can make it 3 in a row?

SuperMcGee
02-10-2008, 03:45 PM
Ugh...these threads are always so homeristic. (directing this at Kwilk and the Buffalo fan)

I put out a best case scenario, so sue me. The MAC East is the worse division of a bad conference and neither of the ooc opponents we host are particularly threatening. Crazy as it sounds, Buffalo is not the worst team in the conference/nation, and we have a better chance of being above .500 than below it. Chalk up any of Miami, EMU, or UTEP as losses if you want to.

etk
02-10-2008, 03:48 PM
Miami Hurricanes

Charleston Southern - Win
@ Florida - Loss
@ Texas A&M - Win
North Carolina - Win
Florida State - Win
Central Florida - Win
@ Duke - Win
Wake Forest - Win
@ Virginia - Win
Virginia Tech - Loss
Georgia Tech - Win
@ North Carolina State - Win

Overall Record - 10-2

We're still about 2 years away from beating all the teams we should beat.

Michigan
02-10-2008, 05:22 PM
Utah W 26-17 (Michigan won't take mid-majors for granted anymore)

Miami OH W 31-14 (Easy enough)

@Notre Dame L 24-27 (Did you know? The last 5 UM coaches are 0-5 in their first game against ND. Learning experience for Threet and Co.)

Wisconsin W 23-20 (PJ Hill has never given us much trouble, and it's a revenge game at home)

Illinois W 28-17 (Ill. has a good D, but Juice...)

Toledo W 34-14 (a lil breather here)

@Penn State W 17-13 (Tough game coming down to which defense can make the play)

Little Brother W 37-24 (w/e)

@Purdue L 27-31 (Away game, Purdue's offense wins in an exciting one)

@Minnesota W 31-21 (I wish I could make the margin bigger, but Minny usually plays us close)

Northwestern W 38-24 (NW has a decent O, but their D...)

@Ohio State L 14-24 (Rivalry game keeps it closer than it should be)

ND, Wisconsin, Penn State, and Purdue can go either way. I'll predict 9-3 but wouldnt be surprised with 7-5 or 10-2

fenikz
02-10-2008, 05:24 PM
We're still about 2 years away from beating all the teams we should beat.

Yes but in my mind we still should beat them and we are on the right path, we probably will lose a couple games that we shouldn't and 9-3 or 8-4 is more likely but if I were betting on them my money would be on the Miami side

kmartin575
02-10-2008, 07:23 PM
MISSOURI TIGERS

Aug. 30 @ Illinois (in St. Louis)- W
Sept. 6 Southeast Missouri- W
Sept. 13 Nevada- W
Sept. 20 Buffalo- W
Oct. 4 @ Nebraska- W
Oct. 11 Oklahoma State- W
Oct. 18 @ Texas- L
Oct. 25 Colorado- W
Nov. 1 @ Baylor- W
Nov. 8 Kansas State- W
Nov. 15 @ Iowa State- W
Nov. 28/29 Kansas (in Kansas City)- W

11-1 before bowl game. Not going to predict W or L for bowl game when I don't know the opponent or the bowl. I think Missouri potentially COULD win at Texas, as in they have the talent and the coaching, but no way am I going to predict a win there.

DChess
02-10-2008, 07:49 PM
please someone quote keylimes post and put an L for the last game. please. and if you're feeling really funny put to "another sec school". you'll be a legend around this forum. i guarantee it!!!

ill say tosu will lose once and that will give the bcs a good reason to keep them out of the bcs NC.

wvu will also lose one but i honestly feel more confident with this team than last years and with a much better SOS one loss could propel us into the NC.

DChess
02-10-2008, 07:52 PM
Utah W 26-17 (Michigan won't take mid-majors for granted anymore)

Miami OH W 31-14 (Easy enough)

@Notre Dame L 24-27 (Did you know? The last 5 UM coaches are 0-5 in their first game against ND. Learning experience for Threet and Co.)

Wisconsin W 23-20 (PJ Hill has never given us much trouble, and it's a revenge game at home)

Illinois W 28-17 (Ill. has a good D, but Juice...)

Toledo W 34-14 (a lil breather here)

@Penn State W 17-13 (Tough game coming down to which defense can make the play)

Little Brother W 37-24 (w/e)

@Purdue L 27-31 (Away game, Purdue's offense wins in an exciting one)

@Minnesota W 31-21 (I wish I could make the margin bigger, but Minny usually plays us close)

Northwestern W 38-24 (NW has a decent O, but their D...)

@Ohio State L 14-24 (Rivalry game keeps it closer than it should be)

ND, Wisconsin, Penn State, and Purdue can go either way. I'll predict 9-3 but wouldnt be surprised with 7-5 or 10-2

i honestly dont know why michigan fans are going to do so well next year. you dont even have a quarterback. you have a coach who runs a system and doesnt have any of his players for that system. at wvu his first year he won 3 games. i see you guys winning 7 at the most.

Ruken
02-10-2008, 08:11 PM
ehh i really see OSU having probs with USC and mabye Wisc because its at Wisc. And i really hope to gof if we make it to the NC again we play and sec team and win beause I agree we have no ground to stand on right now but that one win will shut all those damn sec fans up. Im gonna say OSU (if we beat USC which is a toss up) and Georgia next yr NC game

P-L
02-10-2008, 08:17 PM
at wvu his first year he won 3 games. i see you guys winning 7 at the most.
Our 2008 team has more talent on its special teams than the 2001 West Virginia had on the entire team. It's laughable that WVU are trying to compare the two schools. Michigan churns out top 10 and top 15 classes every year like it's nothing. Before last year, when was the last time WVU had a top 25 class? Despite what some people are saying Rich Rod will adjust his system to fit his players (56% run, 44% pass in 2001 with WVU). I could see us only winning 7 games, but that certainly isn't a "best case scenario."

One thing that people are forgetting is our defense. Outside of the first two games (against spread offense) our defense played very well. Our defense that was ranked 7th in passing defense and 22nd in scoring defense returns all but 3 starters. Rodriguez is NOT bringing the 3-3-5 to Michigan (something WVU "guaranteed" he would) and we'll be running an attacking style 4-3. Luckily, we only play 1 OOC game against a team who runs the spread.

DChess
02-10-2008, 08:22 PM
Our 2008 team has more talent on its special teams than the 2001 West Virginia had on the entire team. It's laughable that WVU are trying to compare the two schools. Michigan churns out top 10 and top 15 classes every year like it's nothing. Before last year, when was the last time WVU had a top 25 class? Despite what some people are saying Rich Rod will adjust his system to fit his players (56% run, 44% pass in 2001 with WVU). I could see us only winning 7 games, but that certainly isn't a "best case scenario."

One thing that people are forgetting is our defense. Outside of the first two games (against spread offense) our defense played very well. Our defense that was ranked 7th in passing defense and 22nd in scoring defense returns all but 3 starters. Rodriguez is NOT bringing the 3-3-5 to Michigan (something WVU "guaranteed" he would) and we'll be running an attacking style 4-3. Luckily, we only play 1 OOC game against a team who runs the spread.

im not trying to compare schools, im just giving rich rods track record. the most important postion in his offense is a quarterback who can run his system (you could say that for any offense really). and he doesnt have any. also who are your team leaders. im not seeing any mike harts or jake longs on this michigan team. you guys had a team who played together for 4 years and had tons of chemsistry (given you had injuries) and you only won 9 games. i really dont know how you will come within a game of that and as one person predicted 1 game better. you guys do have a couple cake games, but the big 10 isnt that big of a push over.

kwilk103
02-10-2008, 09:04 PM
2000 wvu team went and won the music city bowl over eli mannings ole miss team; we went 7-5

we had a ton of returning talent, including a soph qb named scott mcbrien (name will come up again); instead of slowy adapting to his system, he completely overhauled it; we ran a typical big 10 offense (3 yds and a cloud of dust) and he went straight to the spread option

well since he had no use for mcbrien, he decided to transfer, but rod wouldnt let him; luckily for him don nehlan had signed his transfer papers just incase; that left us with another drop back passer in brad lewis; it was painful having him run rods offense

mcbrien sits out the 2001 season; and the next 3x maryland plays us, he kicks our butts all over the field, including a 41-7 beatdown in the gator bowl

the talent is better, but you dont have as many returning players as we did

Zyro_1014
02-10-2008, 09:37 PM
Sanchez or Mustain will be a upgrade over Booty, with so many injuries to the Oline this past year it got the guys for next year more expierience. The running backs will be tough with McKnight leading the way and Johnson and Tyler batteling for carries. WR's with Turner, Ausberry and Hazelton big, tough physical guys.

The defense will be very tough with Maualuga, Cushing, Everson Griffen, Kyle Moore, Tayler Mays. Very hard hitting guys with tons of speed.


2008 USC Trojans

Date Opponent
Aug. 30 at Virginia - W
Sept. 13 Ohio State - W- I say playing at home gives us an advantage and i think the toughness and speed of our defense is enough to take out Wells. Also we will bring pressure on the QB all night.
Sept. 25 at Oregon State - W
Oct. 4 Oregon - W
Oct. 11 Arizona State - W
Oct. 18 at Washington State - W
Oct. 25 at Arizona - W
Nov. 1 Washington - W
Nov. 8 California - W
Nov. 15 at Stanford - W
Nov. 29 Notre Dame - W
Dec. 6 at UCLA - W

Record: 12-0 (9-0)

Don Vito
02-10-2008, 09:44 PM
Ole Miss Rebels

MEMPHIS: Win
-Memphis runs a spread, whch we have trouble with, and has some huge wdeouts but I like us at home.

at Wake Forest: Win
-Wake didn't have the same type of year they did in 2006 last year. We match up against them well and I think we can pull it off.

SAMFORD: Win
-Should be an easy win, but Ole Miss loves to blow games.

VANDERBILT: Win
-They lose the heart of their offense and defense.

at Florida: Loss
-We played them very tough this year ad could've won, it should be close but the Gators are tough and still very talented.

SOUTH CAROLINA: Loss
-Could be a great game, we match up well and I think we have a great chance but the Gamecocks have the upper hand as of now.

at Alabama: Loss
-We should've beaten them last year but this game is in Tuscaloosa and they have added a lot of talent. Will be close and we have a good chance here.

at Arkansas: Win
-The Razorbacks lost their best talent and we got their old coach. Expect both teams to come out firing in this one with the return of Nutt and the rematch of last years blowout.

AUBURN: Win
-Last we had our starting QB and our best player not named Mike Oher (Greg Hardy) out against the Tigers in Auburn last year and we blew a game we should have won. The Tigers are pretty talented and have a great D and playmakers on offense but I think this game is ours.

LOUISIANA-MONROE: Win
-ULM should be a automatic W unless we completely screw up.

at LSU: Loss
-They lose a lot but you have to take the defending national champs over a eam who didn't win one SEC game last year Plus we all know the Tigers will be one of the conferences top teams again.

MISSISSIPPI STATE: Win
-Ed Orgeron single handedly lost us this game last year by using all of the stupidity in his vast arsenal to State's advantage. We match up well agaist State but Croom always has the Bulldogs prepared.

Overall: 8-4

It may seem ridiculous and homerish to predict the Rebs to have an 8-4 season, but we could've had a winning record last season if it were not for an idiot coach and a few really bad breaks. We lost very little talent and gain Jevan Snead at QB, some real talent at RB (Green-Ellis was overrated), and a proven SEC coach who replaces Coach O.

We bring back the potential top lineman in the country who will anchor a good OL, a GREAT group of wideouts who had very little to work with at QB last year, one of he best DLs in the SEC, a talented LB core, and a few talented guys in te secondary.

Our linebackers are young (last year we started all first year players and JUCO transfers) but played well last season and will be boosted by the addition of Patrick Trahan. The DB cre is the question mark of this team, but they all improved as the year went on last year seeing as it is an EXTREMELY young group. We added a bunch of DBs from Hargrave who could possibly play early.

Projected Depth Chart

Returning Starters Bolded
First Year at Ole Miss (Freshman/JUCO/Prep)
Coming off Redshirt

QB: Jevan Snead / Nathan Stanley / Billy Tapp
RB: Cordera Eason / Enrique Davis / Jeremy McGee / Devin Thomas
FB: Jason Cook / Derrick Davis
WR: Mike Wallace / Dexter McCluster / Marshay Green / Mike Hicks
WR: Shea Hodge / Andrew Harris / Roderick Davis/ Lionel Breaux
TE: Gerald Harris / EJ Epperson / Ferbia Allen
LT: Mike Oher
LG: Reid Neely / Rihaw Johnson
C: Brandon Green
RG: John Jerry / Rishaw Johnson
RT: Maurice Miller

RE: Greg Hardy /Kentrell Lockett
DT: Peria Jerry / Ted Laurent
DT: Lawon Scott / Chris Strong
LE: Marcus Tillman / Chris Stong
WLB: Jamie Phillips / Allen Walker
MLB: Tony Fein / Jonathan Cornell
SLB: Ashlee Palmer / Patrcik Trahan
CB: Dustin Mouzon / Julian Whitehead
CB: Cassius Vaughn / Jamariey Atterberry
SS: JaMarca Sanford / Allen Walker
FS: Jonny Brown / Jared Miller

TE appears to be a hole, but we got very little out of our 2 seinor TEs last season both as blockers and receivers. We got a few recruits at TE and Gerald Harris looks to be the frontunner for the starting job. We had 2 seinor centers last year who were OK but center was definitely the biggest hole on our OL last year. Nutt signed Brandon Green, he was a true center prospect and is the only genuine center on our roster. We have a lot of depth across the OL right now but nobody has really claimed a backup job. The starters are all solid on the line except for the question mark at center.

Our defense was inconsitent at time last year but we retuern 10 starters and a lot of peple who contributed. Our DL is one of the best and will only get better with Chris Strong now being a full time DL and we could finally get Jerrell Powe. I like our defense a lot.

Overall, I think Ole Miss could suprise a lot of people this year. This could be "The Year" we have been waiting for but Reb fans have been hearing that ever since Eli left. This year will either be a huge success or a giant disappointment.

Turtlepower
02-10-2008, 10:02 PM
Arizona State

Northern Arizona, Aug. 30, W
-The DII neighbors in the north won't be a challenge.

Stanford, Sept. 6, W
-It's Stanford...

UNLV, Sept. 13 W
-They were horrible last year, so this year won't be much better.

Georgia, Sept. 20 W
-Should be arguably the best OOC game of the year. If ASU is able to pull off a win against a Georgia team that might be a little hungover from the Gamecocks, we should be ranked in the top-10.

@ California, Oct. 4, W
-They are losing a lot of their offense, so we should be able to pull out the win.

@ USC, Oct. 11, L
-It is USC and they are stacked on defense. I can see them going undefeated if Sanchez plays up to his potential.

Oregon, Oct. 25, W
-They lose Dixon and Stewart. That is 95% of their offense. They will still be good, but we should win.

@ Oregon State, Nov. 1, W
-I was going to pick this game as an upset loss for us, but they lost Yvenson Benard and their o-line.

@ Washington, Nov. 8, W
-Jake Locker is overrated. Sorry jballa. =D

Washington State, Nov. 15, W
-Is there even a question here?

UCLA, Nov. 28, W
-A new team with a new coach. They will be good in a couple of years, but not next year.

@ Arizona, Dec. 6, W
-They will make a clean sweep of my 4 years at ASU!!!

Finally, we will make the Rose Bowl due to USC being in the NC game.

draftguru151
02-10-2008, 10:13 PM
RE: Greg Hardy /Kentrell Lockett
DT: Peria Jerry / Ted Laurent
DT: Lawon Scott / Chris Strong
LE: Marcus Tillman / Chris Stong
WLB: Jamie Phillips / Allen Walker
MLB: Tony Fein / Jonathan Cornell
SLB: Ashlee Palmer / Patrcik Trahan
CB: Dustin Mouzon / Julian Whitehead
CB: Cassius Vaughn / Jamariey Atterberry
SS: JaMarca Sanford / Allen Walker
FS: Jonny Brown / Jared Miller

Both the JUCO backers, Fein and Palmer looked very good in what I saw of them last season. Palmer is all over the field.

nfrillman
02-10-2008, 10:25 PM
Missouri Tigers

W-neutral site vs Illinois
W-Southeast Missouri
W-Nevada
W-Buffalo
W-@ Nebraska
W-Oklahoma State
W-@ Texas............extremely nervous about this game
W-Colorado
W-@ Baylor
W- Kansas State
W-@ Iowa State
W- neutral site vs Kansas

L- Oklahoma- Big 12 Championship

DChess
02-10-2008, 10:32 PM
Arizona State

Northern Arizona, Aug. 30, W
-The DII neighbors in the north won't be a challenge.

Stanford, Sept. 6, W
-It's Stanford...

UNLV, Sept. 13 W
-They were horrible last year, so this year won't be much better.

Georgia, Sept. 20 W
-Should be arguably the best OOC game of the year. If ASU is able to pull off a win against a Georgia team that might be a little hungover from the Gamecocks, we should be ranked in the top-10.

@ California, Oct. 4, W
-They are losing a lot of their offense, so we should be able to pull out the win.

@ USC, Oct. 11, L
-It is USC and they are stacked on defense. I can see them going undefeated if Sanchez plays up to his potential.

Oregon, Oct. 25, W
-They lose Dixon and Stewart. That is 95% of their offense. They will still be good, but we should win.

@ Oregon State, Nov. 1, W
-I was going to pick this game as an upset loss for us, but they lost Yvenson Benard and their o-line.

@ Washington, Nov. 8, W
-Jake Locker is overrated. Sorry jballa. =D

Washington State, Nov. 15, W
-Is there even a question here?

UCLA, Nov. 28, W
-A new team with a new coach. They will be good in a couple of years, but not next year.

@ Arizona, Dec. 6, W
-They will make a clean sweep of my 4 years at ASU!!!

Finally, we will make the Rose Bowl due to USC being in the NC game.

i think you'll lose to georgia, to much talent. sry

BamaFalcon59
02-10-2008, 10:33 PM
Ole Miss Rebels

at Wake Forest: Win
-Wake loses their main offensive weapon in Choice but Dwyer is very good. They lose a bunch of key guys on defense too, plus Taylor Bennet is transfering.



I am not going to comment on the season, but Tashard Choice and Jonathan Dwyer (actually my friends cousin) both go to Georgia Tech., not Wake Forest.

Wake Forest should be good next year. They run that unique offense called the orbit offense where there are a ton of reverses and everyone gets touches.

DChess
02-10-2008, 10:33 PM
Missouri Tigers

W-neutral site vs Illinois
W-Southeast Missouri
W-Nevada
W-Buffalo
W-@ Nebraska
W-Oklahoma State
W-@ Texas............extremely nervous about this game
W-Colorado
W-@ Baylor
W- Kansas State
W-@ Iowa State
W- neutral site vs Kansas

L- Oklahoma- Big 12 Championship

i think you lose one regualr season game. that would make a lot of regualr season wins vs teams not nmaed OU.

Don Vito
02-10-2008, 10:49 PM
I am not going to comment on the season, but Tashard Choice and Jonathan Dwyer (actually my friends cousin) both go to Georgia Tech., not Wake Forest.

Wake Forest should be good next year. They run that unique offense called the orbit offense where there are a ton of reverses and everyone gets touches.

God damn I do that so much, I don't know why. I always confuse those schools, it has to be because of the uniforms. Good find, thanks.

Don Vito
02-10-2008, 10:57 PM
Both the JUCO backers, Fein and Palmer looked very good in what I saw of them last season. Palmer is all over the field.

Palmer is a beast, he came here as a SS and moved to WLB and then to SLB. I like him a lot, he was our best and most consistent LB last year. He has NFL athleticism and should be a big part of our defense this year.

Fein started off really slowly but got better as the year went on. He is a great run stooper and hopefully plays well all year this year. He almost got kicked off of the team last week for an off the field incident but Nutt reviewed the situation and kept him on, he could be a key part of this defense much like Ashlee at SLB. Our WLB last year, Jamie Phillips, is a JUCO transfer as well and could start again this year unless he is pushed out by another JUCO backer, Patrick Trahan. Our LBs overall look good but our DL is our strong point. I like our defense a lot this year.

kmartin575
02-11-2008, 02:24 AM
i think you lose one regualr season game. that would make a lot of regualr season wins vs teams not nmaed OU.

What's that supposed to mean?

I have us losing against Texas but as I posted earlier I believe Missouri is very capable of winning that game. However, I simply cannot predict a victory there.

oregonbucfan
02-11-2008, 05:12 AM
Arizona State



Oregon, Oct. 25, W
-They lose Dixon and Stewart. That is 95% of their offense. They will still be good, but we should win.



We lose Dixon, loss of Stewart isnt as big as people think. Jermiah Johnson played almost as well as him when he was healthy and we get the #2 JC RB and still have Crenshaw. WR group will be a lot better. Offense line will be just as good as last year

Defense will be better this year then last year.

Still think ASU wins... but every year they are pac-10 contenders and flop so we will see

nfrillman
02-13-2008, 05:59 PM
i think you lose one regualr season game. that would make a lot of regualr season wins vs teams not nmaed OU.

Yeah, that is probably a little bit of a biased prediction, but Missouri can beat Texas. If the game were in Missouri they would probably be favored. With that being said there are really only three games I think Missouri has a decent shot of losing. I'm not saying they can't lose the others, but they should be heavily favored in all the games except Illinois, @ Nebraska, and @ Texas. Sorry Kansas, that season isn't happening again.

Shane P. Hallam
02-15-2008, 04:12 PM
Ohio State University

August 30 - Youngstown State - W (Cake Game)

September 6 - Ohio University - W (could give us a couple fits, but we should take care of business easily)

September 13 - @USC - W (A VERY close game. I think our better talent wins out in the end, but @USC, it will be hard to compete)

September 20 - Troy University - W (Troy is better than most think, but I can't see us losing at home)

September 27 - Minnesota - W (Minnesota is still pretty terrible)

October 4 - @Wisconsin - W (Wisconsin will be better, actually pretty good. Could definitely be a tight game)

October 11 - Purdue - W (I don't buy Purdue being legit next year)

October 18- @Michigan State - W (Dantonio will give us a run for our money. If there is a major major upset, I'd bet on MSU)

October 25 - Penn State - W (PSU isn't their former selves, in our house, I don't see it. Clark COULD give us fits though).

November 8 - @Northwestern - W (It's NW)

November 15 - @Illinois - L (I think we lose to Illinois again and maybe get bumped out of the NC picture. It'd be heartbreaking again, but Illinois matches up well and we are bound to blow one).

November 22 - Michigan - W (I don't think Rich can pull together an offense to beat us this year)

11-1

etk
02-15-2008, 04:17 PM
Wow, I just realized OSU has 4 gimmes with USC sandwiched in the middle. If I was a fan I'd be concerned about one of those being a spoiler, plus I think OSU can handle USC. Ohio will be a nice warm-up game, but either they or Troy should give OSU fits.

Shane P. Hallam
02-15-2008, 04:19 PM
Wow, I just realized OSU has 4 gimmes with USC sandwiched in the middle. If I was a fan I'd be concerned about one of those being a spoiler, plus I think OSU can handle USC. Ohio will be a nice warm-up game, but either they or Troy should give OSU fits.

A spoiler? Nah, not with the talent coming back, really.

Turtlepower
02-15-2008, 04:24 PM
Troy is losing a lot of players from their team last year. I just think that OSU loses because I just think that USC has a better defense. Simple as that. =D

BigJohn98
02-15-2008, 05:07 PM
September 13 - @USC - W (A VERY close game. I think our better talent wins out in the end, but @USC, it will be hard to compete)




Sorry, but this one made me laugh.

Shane P. Hallam
02-15-2008, 05:10 PM
Sorry, but this one made me laugh.

Why? USC is losing a lot of players on both sides of the ball, we're losing two. It will be close, but it could be similar to Texas/OSU where the away team wins both games.

bearsfan_51
02-15-2008, 05:20 PM
Unknown MAC TEAM- Win
Bowling Green- Win
Montana State- Win
Florida Atlantic- Win
@ Ohio State- Loss
Indiana- Win
@Illinois- Loss
@Purdue- Loss
Northwestern- Win
Michigan- Win
@Wisconsin- Loss
Iowa- Win

7-4 record (6-5 is more likely, but I could see us upsetting Michigan). 3-4 in the Big Ten. Probably some really crappy bowl game per usual, but will help people forget about the total embarrassment that was last year.

bdlyons26
02-18-2008, 04:54 AM
oklahoma
UT Chat W 52-10
Cinncy W 31-20
at Wash W 28-14
TCU W 31-13
at Baylor W 38-7
Texas W 27-21
Kansas W 28-17
at k. state W 35-14
nebraska W 24-13
at Texas A@M L 17-20 am is gonna be tough with a decent coach and tough stadium i dont' know if we can make it past them and we always play at least one terribly coached game a year... i put this one on the worst d coordinator in the big 12 brent venables
texas tech W 34-28 always a close game no matter what
at osu W 28-17
big 12 title versus missou w. 27-24
im gonna say they make it to the national title and im gonna go far out and say they play Florida who under t. tebow i having losing only one or 2 games. im gonna go out and say ou wins 31-27. finish 13-1

DragonFireKai
02-22-2008, 03:02 PM
OSU

Stanford: W, 14+, we haven't lost in the bay area in years.

Penn State: W, 3-5, The PAC 10 is consistently better than the Big Ten over the past several years, they lost some key players on offense and defense.

Hawaii: W, 14+, Hawaii's lost their recievers, their QB, their Coach. We beat them in 2006, when they were a better team then they were in 2007, and the game's at Reser.

USC: L, 14+, USC is still USC.

Utah: W, 10-14, It's in Utah, but we were much better than them last year in the first game of the season.

Wazzu: W, 14+, the cougs didn't get that much better.

Washington: W, 5-7, Washington's on the upswing, I think this is the biggest chance for an upset.

Arizona State: W, 3-5, Riley's offense has a learning curve for QBs that's akin to running headfirst into a brick wall. ASU won't be getting five ints again.

UCLA: W, 5-7, Gerrard Lawson will not be returning kicks this time.

Cal: L, 14+, For some reason, We can always beat cal in cal, but they curb stomp us in Corvallis.

Arizona: W, 7-10, Tuitama's gonna be a vegtable by the time this game gets here.

Oregon: W, 7-10, No Dixon, No Stewart, No chance of winning in Reser.

ChosenOne
02-22-2008, 03:31 PM
FLORIDA GATORS

Hawaii- Win 59-21

Miami, FL- Win 38-17

@ Tennessee- Win 44-21

Ole Miss- Win 45-14

@ Arkansas- Win 38-17

LSU- Win 31-21

Kentucky- Win 56-17

Georgia- Win 35-27

@ Vanderbilt- Win 44-10

South Carolina- Win 51-24

Citadel- Win 70-14

@ Florida State- Win 38-21

Florida could go 12-0 as they return most of their starters.
Worst case scenario I see them going 10-2 with losses o Georgia and LSU. Thats about it though.

:cool:

I'd love to see that happen.

Tampa 2 4 life
02-22-2008, 09:45 PM
Sat, Aug 30: Tennessee-Martin - W, easily.

Fri., Sept 5: at UCF, W, UCF is a rival and they haven't one once against us. Plus they lost Smith.

Sat., Sept 13: Kansas - Extra day of prep, In Tampa...I'll put this as a toss up.

Sat., Sept 20: at Florida International - W

Sat., Sept 27: at NC State - W

Thurs., Oct 2: Pittsburgh - In Tampa, but only 5 days rest...I'll put win for now.

Sat., Oct 11: Open date

Sat., Oct 18: Syracuse - After a break, In Tampa, W

Sat., Oct 25: at Louisville - W

Thurs., Oct 30: at Cincinnati - 5 days after a Conference game in Cincy...L

Sat., Nov 8: Open date

Sat., Nov 15: Rutgers - Bye week, coming off a loss, In Tampa, W

Sat., Nov 22: UConn - In Tampa, It was close besides USF playing like crap, W

Sat., Nov 29: Open date

Sat., Dec 6: at West Virginia - Bye week against a team our D is built to stop, W

9-3 to 11-1

kalbears13
02-22-2008, 10:05 PM
USC loses John David Booty, Fred Davis, Chilo Rachal, Drew Radovich, Sam Baker, Sedrick Ellis, Lawrence Jackson, Keith Rivers, and Terrell Thomas. Those are all very good players.

Ohio State loses Larry Grant, Kirk Barton, and Dionte Johnson. That's our 3rd best LB, a fullback, and our right tackle. We are gonna be loaded next year and we played better on the road last year for the most part than at home. I don't doubt that we'll go 12-0 in the regular season. It all depends on who we play in the NC game when we get there. Hopefully WVU or Oklahoma, Mizzou, etc.

And, hey, if we go to the NC game in our rebuilding year (2007), a year when we were supposed to be the 10th or 12th best team, then in a year when we're supposed to be a top 5 team I think we'll be a lot better.

and OSU has lost Gholston...but he's not that good...

Shane P. Hallam
02-22-2008, 10:43 PM
and OSU has lost Gholston...but he's not that good...

Ha, I love how keylime left that out.

jballa838
02-22-2008, 10:50 PM
WASHINGTON HUSKIES

Aug. 30 at Oregon W
Sept. 6 BYU W
Sept. 13 Oklahoma L
Sept. 20 BYE
Sept. 27 Stanford W
Oct. 4 at Arizona W
Oct. 11 BYE
Oct. 18 Oregon State W
Oct. 25 Notre Dame W (call me crazy, but we got this)
Nov. 1 at USC L
Nov. 8 Arizona State W
Nov. 15 UCLA W
Nov. 22 at Washington State W
Dec. 6 at California W
Final Record: 10-2Jake Locker finishes 2nd in Heisman voting.

etk
02-22-2008, 10:50 PM
Sat, Aug 30: Tennessee-Martin - W, easily.

Fri., Sept 5: at UCF, W, UCF is a rival and they haven't one once against us. Plus they lost Smith.

Sat., Sept 13: Kansas - Extra day of prep, In Tampa...I'll put this as a toss up.

Sat., Sept 20: at Florida International - W

Sat., Sept 27: at NC State - W

Thurs., Oct 2: Pittsburgh - In Tampa, but only 5 days rest...I'll put win for now.

Sat., Oct 11: Open date

Sat., Oct 18: Syracuse - After a break, In Tampa, W

Sat., Oct 25: at Louisville - W

Thurs., Oct 30: at Cincinnati - 5 days after a Conference game in Cincy...L

Sat., Nov 8: Open date

Sat., Nov 15: Rutgers - Bye week, coming off a loss, In Tampa, W

Sat., Nov 22: UConn - In Tampa, It was close besides USF playing like crap, W

Sat., Nov 29: Open date

Sat., Dec 6: at West Virginia - Bye week against a team our D is built to stop, W

9-3 to 11-1

Sometimes it's smart to look at a schedule/season in bunches. For example, USF won't win both @NCST and Pitt back-to-back, so you just say 1/2 there. Then you have the 3-game pack starting with Syracuse, where they should go 2-1. Even though there's a bye in between, you gotta say the Rutgers, UCONN, WVU pack is 2-1. That leaves USF with 3 losses assuming they beat Kansas. Until you have a truly elite program or you expect an incredible season, you can't expect your team to win every winnable game, hence why you judge them in packs.

adschofield
02-23-2008, 01:07 AM
Kansas Jayhawks

vs. Florida International-WIN (FIU frankly blows)
vs. Louisiana Tech- WIN (Pretty easy win)
@ South Florida- WIN (Too much talent on offense to lose this one, but it will be a tough game0
vs. Sam Houston State- WIN (Blowout victory)
at Iowa State- WIN (Iowa State just isn't quite there yet, we'll pull away after a quarter or two)
vs. Colorado- WIN (If this one was in Boulder, I'd give to the Buffs, but we'll overcome Colorado's young talent in front of a sellout crowd)
@ Oklahoma- LOSS (OU just has too much talent on offense, but it will be a close shootout)
vs. Texas Tech- WIN (Homefield advantage tilts this one in our favor as our offense overwhelmes TT)
vs. Kansas State- WIN (We're just a lot better than KSU, plain and simpel)
@ Nebraska- WIN (Our offense will just overwhelme NU's defense, and we'll hold NU's offense in check)
vs. Texas- WIN (It will be a great game, but I think our balance on offense and experience on defense will get us this win)
@ Missouri- LOSS (MU just has too much experience and talent on offense)

Final Record: 10-2

kwilk103
02-23-2008, 02:34 AM
can we rename this thread the homerism thread? everyone expects their team to go at least 9-3

and etk, never thought about lookin at the season in bunches, good point

DragonFireKai
02-23-2008, 05:21 AM
can we rename this thread the homerism thread? everyone expects their team to go at least 9-3

and etk, never thought about lookin at the season in bunches, good point

Yeah, picking Ohio State to go undefeated is one thing, that's at least feasible. But picking Washington to go 10-2 after finishing last in the PAC 10? please.

Sveen
02-23-2008, 06:02 AM
TEXAS LONGHORNS

Aug. 30 Florida Atlantic (W)
Sept. 6 at UTEP (W)
Sept. 13 Arkansas (W)
Sept. 20 Rice (W)
Sept. 27 Open date
Oct. 4 at Colorado (W)
Oct. 11 vs Oklahoma (L)
Oct. 18 Missouri (W)
Oct. 25 Oklahoma State (W)
Nov. 1 at Texas Tech (W)
Nov. 8 Baylor (W)
Nov. 15 at Kansas (L)
Nov. 28/29 Texas A&M (W)

Record: 10-2

reigle9
02-23-2008, 09:55 AM
Penn State

COASTAL CAROLINA - Win. Joke.

OREGON STATE - Win. Don't know much about them but they only have 11 returning starters. I might be worried if it was an away game.

at Syracuse - Win. They are still down.

TEMPLE - Win. Should be another blowout.

ILLINOIS (1) - Win. In typical AM fashion, he lost this game on his own last year. Should be a good game, but it's a at home and a potential night game.

at Purdue - Win. This game scares me but haven't lost to them since the dark years. If it's a noon kick, I'll pick a loss.

at Wisconsin - Win. They have 17 returning starters coming back but we have 18 and blew them out last year. I assume they'll be overrated again, but being a back to back away game scares me. I'll also pick this as a loss if it's a noon kick.

MICHIGAN (2) - Win. Michigan fans don't seem to understand losing your star QB, RB, 2WR's, and the best tackle in the country is a bad thing. I could see them having an ND type year in the first year of the Dick Rod era. I can't wait for the futures line to come out on this game.

at Ohio State - Loss. Could get ugly at the Shoe. AM not throwing pick 6's won't hurt though.

at Iowa - Win. No matter what the one poster thinks, it's only Iowa.

INDIANA - Win. Thank God James Hardy is gone after 8 seasons.

MICHIGAN STATE - Win. Always play us tough but it's at home and they only have 10 returning starters.


A favorable schedule, AM graduating, and 20 returning starters (including ST) should make for a nice year.

11-1

ChazMonk
02-23-2008, 10:11 AM
Yeah I agree...OSU has as good a chance at an undefeated RS as anyone. The question is what happens if they make the NC?


Well if we play you guys again, I predict a win...

Seriously, though, I am an OSU fan, but with the team we have coming back, and despite playing USC on the road (we were a very good road team last year), I say we go undefeated, not including the NC game. We do have a tough away sched., so we shall see.

etk
02-23-2008, 10:35 AM
can we rename this thread the homerism thread? everyone expects their team to go at least 9-3

and etk, never thought about lookin at the season in bunches, good point

For sure. PSU 11-1, Kansas 10-2. LMAO! I thought I was being optimistic with my Canes...

Thanks. I find it helps filter out homerism otherwise I'll just say "we'll beat UNC, we'll beat NC State, Maryland" etc. In bunches it looks less realistic and you predict one of those games gets blown. Especially SEC, ACC & Big East teams (lots of parity).

BrownsTown
02-23-2008, 11:10 AM
Washington 10-2 and Penn St. 11-1 is hilarious.

reigle9
02-24-2008, 01:06 PM
Way to just read the bottom line ya scholars. And there has been many objective sites that has PSU in the preseason top 15 because of everything I mentioned. But, I'm sure every passer by knows more about the team than I.

I heard the same **** in 2005, as I referenced the depth and returning starters.

DragonFireKai
02-24-2008, 02:12 PM
Way to just read the bottom line ya scholars. And there has been many objective sites that has PSU in the preseason top 15 because of everything I mentioned. But, I'm sure every passer by knows more about the team than I.

I heard the same **** in 2005, as I referenced the depth and returning starters.

Actually, Oregon State's returning 15 starters, not including special teams. Might want to brush up on your opposition.

Sniper
02-24-2008, 03:03 PM
MICHIGAN (2) - Win. Michigan fans don't seem to understand losing your star QB, RB, 2WR's, and the best tackle in the country is a bad thing. I could see them having an ND type year in the first year of the Dick Rod era. I can't wait for the futures line to come out on this game.



Penn State fans don't seem to understand that it hasn't mattered what the circumstances have been, they haven't been able to beat Michigan since the Stone Age.

adschofield
02-24-2008, 04:41 PM
For sure. PSU 11-1, Kansas 10-2. LMAO! I thought I was being optimistic with my Canes...

Thanks. I find it helps filter out homerism otherwise I'll just say "we'll beat UNC, we'll beat NC State, Maryland" etc. In bunches it looks less realistic and you predict one of those games gets blown. Especially SEC, ACC & Big East teams (lots of parity).

Sparking analysis there chief, would you like to provide your rationale, or just continue broad, vague attacks?

proshoota25
02-25-2008, 01:40 PM
The University of Florida Gators

Hawaii- Win 63-14

Miami, FL- Win 33-28

@ Tennessee- Win 42-31

Ole Miss- Win 48-24

@ Arkansas- Win 34-27

LSU- Loss 28-27

Kentucky- Win 56-17

Georgia- Win 35-32

@ Vanderbilt- Win 54-10

South Carolina- Win 48-24

Citadel- Win 77-3

@ Florida State- Win 48-38

11-1 (7-1)

soybean
02-26-2008, 01:57 PM
everyone seems to be pretty confident OSU will beat USC.

let me remind you that better coaching>better talent.

not to mention a lot of you probably can't even tell me the last OOC game USC lost in the regular season.

ps. im not saying USC will win, but cmon we aren't some doormat.

LonghornsLegend
02-27-2008, 01:14 AM
Just realized I havent seen one for Texas yet...


FLORIDA ATLANTIC W
at UTEP W
ARKANSAS W
RICE W
at Colorado W
~Going to be interesting seeing if Scott runs crazy, the same way Peterson did when he faced us as a freshman.
vs. Oklahoma (Dallas) W
~Right now this game is in the stage where its not a blowout one way or the other, last year could of went either way, im banking on Colt's experience and our defense to carry us, its a back and forth series so it wouldnt be a surprise either way.
MISSOURI L
~Its at home which favors us, but I really like Chase Daniels and his knack for making plays, and id take him over Colt in this game...Our defense would have to win it.
OKLAHOMA STATE W
~This will be close as usual, and although I think we are going to win and should win, my upset alert will be on this week.
at Texas Tech L
~We cant get lucky forever with these guys, they are tired of getting screwed over and probably already have this date circled.
BAYLOR W
at Kansas W
TEXAS A&M W
~Not gonna beat us again.


10-2, gives us a record 7th straight season with 10 wins and 11 out of the last 13, borderline big 12 championship birth, OU is still going to win majority of their games.

aheineken
02-27-2008, 08:43 AM
Southern Miss (9-3, 7-1)

vs. Louisiana-Lafayette - Win
at Auburn - Loss
at Arkansas State - Win
vs. Marshall - Win
vs. UTEP - Win
vs. Boise State - Loss
at Rice - Win
vs. UAB - Win
at Memphis - Win
at UCF - Loss
vs. East Carolina - Win
at SMU - Win

YAYareaRB
02-27-2008, 09:33 AM
WASHINGTON HUSKIES
Sept. 6 BYU W

Oct. 25 Notre Dame W (call me crazy, but we got this)


You got a better chance of beating Notre Dame than BYU

Sniper
02-27-2008, 12:05 PM
everyone seems to be pretty confident OSU will beat USC.

let me remind you that better coaching>better talent.

not to mention a lot of you probably can't even tell me the last OOC game USC lost in the regular season.

ps. im not saying USC will win, but cmon we aren't some doormat.

Well in all fairness, I'd have to think OSU should be the favorite. It might work out like the Texas/OSU game worked out a couple years ago. Put it this way...

USC loses John David Booty, a couple RBs, Sam Baker, Drew Radovich, Lawrence Jackson, Sed Ellis, Keith Rivers and Terrell Thomas and I know I'm forgetting somebody. Ohio State returns their QB, RB, TE, WR, 4/5 of their OL, 3/4 of their starting DL, 2/3 of their LB, and everybody in the secondary. Why wouldn't OSU be favored?

I'm not picking a winner yet, just saying why people might be down on SC. The following year in the Shoe, it will be the exact opposite.

Thunder&Lightning
02-27-2008, 12:40 PM
Usc: Undefeated National Champions.

Bengals1690
02-28-2008, 07:31 AM
everyone seems to be pretty confident OSU will beat USC.

let me remind you that better coaching>better talent.

not to mention a lot of you probably can't even tell me the last OOC game USC lost in the regular season.

ps. im not saying USC will win, but cmon we aren't some doormat.

OSU has the coaching edge.

that being said, i think USC will beat OSU

Sniper
02-28-2008, 07:48 AM
OSU has the coaching edge.

that being said, i think USC will beat OSU

Homer much?

I think Tressel is the 2nd best coach in the country, but Pete Carroll is clearly the #1. Plus, in the last two big non-Michigan games, the Buckeyes have laid a huge egg. Carroll never got embarrassed like that

Gribble
02-28-2008, 08:11 AM
Homer much?

I think Tressel is the 2nd best coach in the country, but Pete Carroll is clearly the #1. Plus, in the last two big non-Michigan games, the Buckeyes have laid a huge egg. Carroll never got embarrassed like that

Stanford game this year?

DragonFireKai
02-28-2008, 08:44 PM
Stanford game this year?

You say that as if Tressel hasn't frittered away a game against a 1-3 team when ranked in the top ten...

TouchdownUSC
02-29-2008, 02:33 PM
Usc I think will go undefeated. Other than ohio st the hardest team we will probably face next year will be ASU at home. Should be a fairly easy season as long as we handle ohio st. I actually think usc will end up beating ohio st by like 10 or 14 points. Carroll always gets the team ready for the big games. The secondary return, we have prob the best linebacker group in the country and griffen has shown to be a deadly defensive end. On offense we will have a leathal run game and I think sanchez is a better quarterback than booty. I think the future looks very bright.

Zyro_1014
02-29-2008, 11:04 PM
Usc I think will go undefeated. Other than ohio st the hardest team we will probably face next year will be ASU at home. Should be a fairly easy season as long as we handle ohio st. I actually think usc will end up beating ohio st by like 10 or 14 points. Carroll always gets the team ready for the big games. The secondary return, we have prob the best linebacker group in the country and griffen has shown to be a deadly defensive end. On offense we will have a leathal run game and I think sanchez is a better quarterback than booty. I think the future looks very bright.

I totally agree with you. I beleive that Sanchez is a MUCH better QB that Booty, and even if Mustain happened to with the job, i believe hes better as well. and for saying we lost a couple on our line, with all the injuries that just happened this past season it did WONDERS for the guys who will be starting this year.

Who do you think is gonna step in for Rivers? do you think we throw in Gallippo? or do we play matthews?

TouchdownUSC
03-01-2008, 12:26 AM
I think it will be gallipo. I'm really excited about his potential. What is your thoughts?

jballa838
03-01-2008, 12:36 AM
Washington 10-2 and Penn St. 11-1 is hilarious.
Jake Locker > Your Quarterback. He alone gets us 8 wins. Plus, we have Paul Homer still.

Cashmoney
03-01-2008, 01:51 AM
Tennessee Vols

Aug. 30 UAB Knoxville (W)
Sept. 6 UCLA Pasadena (W)
Sept. 20 Florida* Knoxville (L)
Sept. 27 Auburn* Auburn (W)
Oct. 4 Northern Illinois Knoxville (W)
Oct. 11 Georgia* Athens (L)
Oct. 18 Mississippi State* Knoxville (W)
Oct. 25 Alabama* Knoxville (W)
Nov. 1 South Carolina* Columbia (W)
Nov. 8 Wyoming (HC) Knoxville (W)
Nov. 22 Vanderbilt* Nashville (W)
Nov. 29 Kentucky* (W)

soybean
03-01-2008, 03:49 AM
even if we don't make it to the NC game next year, I'm still going to be damn excited to watch this team play, especially mr. rojo and mr. mcknight with a year under their belt.

hopefully sanchez can live up to his carson palmer comparisons.

oh and also it's one step closer to signing barkley.

but if we lost to ohio state, i'll root for them to make it to the NC game.

oregonbucfan
03-01-2008, 07:13 AM
OSU

Stanford: W, 14+, we haven't lost in the bay area in years.

Penn State: W, 3-5, The PAC 10 is consistently better than the Big Ten over the past several years, they lost some key players on offense and defense.

Hawaii: W, 14+, Hawaii's lost their recievers, their QB, their Coach. We beat them in 2006, when they were a better team then they were in 2007, and the game's at Reser.

USC: L, 14+, USC is still USC.

Utah: W, 10-14, It's in Utah, but we were much better than them last year in the first game of the season.

Wazzu: W, 14+, the cougs didn't get that much better.

Washington: W, 5-7, Washington's on the upswing, I think this is the biggest chance for an upset.

Arizona State: W, 3-5, Riley's offense has a learning curve for QBs that's akin to running headfirst into a brick wall. ASU won't be getting five ints again.

UCLA: W, 5-7, Gerrard Lawson will not be returning kicks this time.

Cal: L, 14+, For some reason, We can always beat cal in cal, but they curb stomp us in Corvallis.

Arizona: W, 7-10, Tuitama's gonna be a vegtable by the time this game gets here.

Oregon: W, 7-10, No Dixon, No Stewart, No chance of winning in Reser.

You guys replace your whole OL, RB, your QB suck... what are you smoking?

You wont beat ASU, UCLA, and probably lose @ Washington. And 50/50 on Oregon, Utah and Arizona. You guys will be lucky to be a bowl team. So many people to replace

oregonbucfan
03-01-2008, 07:16 AM
WASHINGTON HUSKIES

Aug. 30 at Oregon W
Sept. 6 BYU W
Sept. 13 Oklahoma L
Sept. 20 BYE
Sept. 27 Stanford W
Oct. 4 at Arizona W
Oct. 11 BYE
Oct. 18 Oregon State W
Oct. 25 Notre Dame W (call me crazy, but we got this)
Nov. 1 at USC L
Nov. 8 Arizona State W
Nov. 15 UCLA W
Nov. 22 at Washington State W
Dec. 6 at California W
Final Record: 10-2Jake Locker finishes 2nd in Heisman voting.

You wont go to Oregon and win sorry. And your acting like beating ND is huge. Oh yeah and BYU will beat you guys as well there a legit top 25 team

oregonbucfan
03-01-2008, 07:18 AM
Actually, Oregon State's returning 15 starters, not including special teams. Might want to brush up on your opposition.

thats something to brag about. You still have awful QB's, replacing a solid RB, and replacing an entire OL. Good luck

YAYareaRB
03-01-2008, 01:10 PM
You wont go to Oregon and win sorry. And your acting like beating ND is huge. Oh yeah and BYU will beat you guys as well there a legit top 25 team


He speaks the truth. BYU is losing TWO starters and returning a load of talent along with a pretty good recruiting class.

DragonFireKai
03-01-2008, 01:55 PM
You guys replace your whole OL, RB, your QB suck... what are you smoking?

We replace 2 O linemen. Speer got significant starting experience when Perry got hurt, and then when Schuening moved to tackle. He's got an entire season's worth of snaps under his belt. Perry returns, Levitre returns, and Thompson returns. Hardly the whole O-Line.

As for Bernard. Bernard was a great running back, but we return enough of the O-line that either Rodgers brother who gets the job will do fine. After all, James averaged 11.7 yards per carry last season. That's kind of a good average.

And regarding the QB. Mike Riley's offense has a learning curve for QBs that's like running headfirst into a brick wall. It's always ugly for a season. Look at Derek Anderson's 24 INT 2003 season, or Matt Moore's 19 INT 2005 season. Both players took Oregon State to a bowl game the next season. Moore did it winning ten games, and Anderson did it against the hardest schedule in the country in 04. And when you consider the impact of Sammie Stroughter returning from his injury, that will make the transition even easier.

You wont beat ASU, UCLA, and probably lose @ Washington. And 50/50 on Oregon, Utah and Arizona. You guys will be lucky to be a bowl team. So many people to replace

We had Arizona State on the ropes, but due to the aforemention learning curve, the team self destructed. It was similar to the 2005 game against Arizona. If we don't turn the ball over 6 times, we win. We led ASU in almost every catagory. More first downs, better 3rd down %, more offense, fewer yards allowed.

UCLA, we led into the fourth quarter, until Gerrard Lawson inexplicably fumbled three kickoffs in a row. His ball privileges have since been revoked.

And Washington is on the upswing, but not that much. The odds of an upset are low. They still need to rebuild their defense.

Oregon lost their entire offense, we beat Utah by 17 points last season, and Arizona lost the only two player worth anything on their defense and looks so bad this season that their own head coach called them a JC team.

Zyro_1014
03-02-2008, 03:11 PM
I think it will be gallipo. I'm really excited about his potential. What is your thoughts?

I believe Gallipo will get the nod also. hes going to be an absolute stud. We have gotten the commitment from Barkley so that is nice! lol. I really think that our recievers are be gonna be very tough to stop. With Ausburry, Turner, Hazelton, and then we have the homerun threat with RoJo. McKnight and Tyler i can see being the next thunder and lightning but Stafon will get more carries and Marc. I really dont think that we are losing much on defense, sure Ellis and Rivers are huge but the guys filling in for them have just much potential. I think that we will beat OSU because of the speed that we have on defense, and Sarkisian calls a heck of a game on offense

Ruken
03-03-2008, 12:41 AM
Two words USC fans about your speedy defense Beanie Wells

DragonFireKai
03-03-2008, 01:21 AM
Two words USC fans about your speedy defense Beanie Wells

One player isn't going to be the difference in that game. Wells is a good back, but the players on USC's defense have seen a lot of good backs.

TouchdownUSC
03-03-2008, 09:30 AM
I actually think mcknight matches up against ohio states defense better than beanie does against the trojan defense. Besides that we are good against the run. I think our run defense is better than our pass defense because last year we were weak at the corner position. We have faced better runners than chris wells.

YAYareaRB
03-03-2008, 04:35 PM
Two words USC fans about your speedy defense Beanie Wells

See Last Year's National Championship Game

iowatreat54
03-03-2008, 04:45 PM
See Last Year's National Championship Game

oh you mean the one where Beanie was pretty much dominating until OSU decided to throw 95% of plays from halftime on? You're right, that 146 yards with 7.3 ypc means nothing...oh, and his speed had nothing to do with that 65 yard opening drive TD...

DragonFireKai
03-03-2008, 07:40 PM
oh you mean the one where Beanie was pretty much dominating until OSU decided to throw 95% of plays from halftime on? You're right, that 146 yards with 7.3 ypc means nothing...oh, and his speed had nothing to do with that 65 yard opening drive TD...

And OSU lost by two TDs. And the play calling in the second half is unimportant, because OSU was down by two TDs at halftime. Chris Wells was clearly the most talented player on the field, but not even he could make up for the fact that his team as a whole was completely outclassed.

USC's defensive players have seen better running backs than Chris Wells in games that they've played. They've seen better running backs than Chris Wells in practice. USC's defense is not going to collapse in terror at the sight of him.

iowatreat54
03-03-2008, 09:10 PM
And OSU lost by two TDs. And the play calling in the second half is unimportant, because OSU was down by two TDs at halftime. Chris Wells was clearly the most talented player on the field, but not even he could make up for the fact that his team as a whole was completely outclassed.

USC's defensive players have seen better running backs than Chris Wells in games that they've played. They've seen better running backs than Chris Wells in practice. USC's defense is not going to collapse in terror at the sight of him.

I'm interested in what teams they have seen that have better RBs? I will admit that McKnight is at worst at Wells's level, but I really think right now, as far as production and talent, Wells is the best back in the country, so how can USC have seen better backs?

edit: mendenhall and stewart I guess last year, but other than that, I mean Wells would be at least 2nd best on USC so your practice squad argument is ridiculous

Sniper
03-03-2008, 10:46 PM
They've seen better running backs than Chris Wells in practice.

No they haven't.

Zyro_1014
03-03-2008, 11:24 PM
Two words USC fans about your speedy defense Beanie Wells

two words for your superman running back Beanie Wells.......Rey Maualuga!


http://youtube.com/watch?v=KaaArtCHAvk

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SFbH9d6HauQ

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JJhktBHplvg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QaIM_yGOlYc

DragonFireKai
03-03-2008, 11:30 PM
I'm interested in what teams they have seen that have better RBs? I will admit that McKnight is at worst at Wells's level, but I really think right now, as far as production and talent, Wells is the best back in the country, so how can USC have seen better backs?

edit: mendenhall and stewart I guess last year, but other than that, I mean Wells would be at least 2nd best on USC so your practice squad argument is ridiculous

The redshirt seniors on the defense played against Adrian Peterson at his best, and JJ Arrington during his 2,000 yard 15 TD 7 ypc capstone season.

The 4th year players played against Darren McFadden and Marshawn Lynch twice each. And practiced against Reggie Bush and LenDale White.

The 3rd year players played against Darren McFadden, Marshawn Lynch, and Jonathon Stewart twice.

and every non true freshman has seen Jonathon Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall.

and while you admit that Joe McKnight is at least as talented as Chris Wells, McKnight isn't even the best RB on the team.

Sniper
03-03-2008, 11:37 PM
The redshirt seniors on the defense played against Adrian Peterson at his best, and JJ Arrington during his 2,000 yard 15 TD 7 ypc capstone season.

The 4th year players played against Darren McFadden and Marshawn Lynch twice each. And practiced against Reggie Bush and LenDale White.

The 3rd year players played against Darren McFadden, Marshawn Lynch, and Jonathon Stewart twice.

and every non true freshman has seen Jonathon Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall.

and while you admit that Joe McKnight is at least as talented as Chris Wells, McKnight isn't even the best RB on the team.


McKnight isn't even close to being the all-around manchild that Wells is. McKnight's not even the starter.

Incinerator
03-03-2008, 11:41 PM
East Carolina

vs Va Tech - Win
vs West Va - Lose
at Tulane - Win
at NCSU - Win
vs Houston - Win
at Virginia - Lose
vs Memphis - Win
at UCF - Win
vs Marshall - Win
at Southern Miss - Lose
at UAB - Win
vs UTEP - Win
CUSA Champ Game - Win

10-3 (best we can hope for imo)

Zyro_1014
03-03-2008, 11:50 PM
The redshirt seniors on the defense played against Adrian Peterson at his best, and JJ Arrington during his 2,000 yard 15 TD 7 ypc capstone season.

The 4th year players played against Darren McFadden and Marshawn Lynch twice each. And practiced against Reggie Bush and LenDale White.

The 3rd year players played against Darren McFadden, Marshawn Lynch, and Jonathon Stewart twice.

and every non true freshman has seen Jonathon Stewart and Rashard Mendenhall.

and while you admit that Joe McKnight is at least as talented as Chris Wells, McKnight isn't even the best RB on the team.

who do you think is??? Johnson.

im very High on McKnight but i love Marc Tyler as well

KCJ58
03-04-2008, 12:23 AM
USC will beat Ohio State, book it, quote it, i don't care it's gonna happen

LonghornsLegend
03-04-2008, 01:15 AM
They've seen better running backs than Chris Wells in practice.

Lets not get carried away here, just because you guys have 7 rbs doesnt mean any of them are on the level on Chris Wells...Thats a ridiculous statement.

DragonFireKai
03-04-2008, 04:15 AM
Lets not get carried away here, just because you guys have 7 rbs doesnt mean any of them are on the level on Chris Wells...Thats a ridiculous statement.

I would say that Stafon Johnson is as talented a back as Chris Wells. He did average a full yard per carry over what Wells did last season. And you do have to remember that most of those defensive players were around to practice against Reggie Bush and LenDale White.

Sniper
03-04-2008, 08:27 AM
I would say that Stafon Johnson is as talented a back as Chris Wells. He did average a full yard per carry over what Wells did last season. And you do have to remember that most of those defensive players were around to practice against Reggie Bush and LenDale White.

That's the basis of your argument?

Chris Wells had 274 carries, Johnson had 98. Your argument's going to need work.

TouchdownUSC
03-04-2008, 09:38 AM
In the past couple years the sc defense has faced stewart, lynch, mendenhall, mcfadden and felix jones just to name some. Not to mention dennis dixon who is a better runner than a lot of tailbacks. I'm not worried about sc stopping the run.

iowatreat54
03-04-2008, 10:57 AM
I would say that Stafon Johnson is as talented a back as Chris Wells. He did average a full yard per carry over what Wells did last season. And you do have to remember that most of those defensive players were around to practice against Reggie Bush and LenDale White.

yea, again, the ypc argument doesn't work when one back has over 2x the amount of carries of another...and Beanie is a better "running back" than both Bush and White...Bush was a better player mainly because he isn't a true RB and could also be a slot receiver, and White was just a power back...I wasn't thinking in terms of who they have faced individually over the past 5 years, more of who the defense as a collective whole have faced last year, because just because 1 or 2 players faced AP 4 years ago doesn't make this defense so great

TouchdownUSC
03-04-2008, 11:03 AM
Sc also faced mike hart in the rose bowl.

DChess
03-04-2008, 11:06 AM
I would say that Stafon Johnson is as talented a back as Chris Wells. He did average a full yard per carry over what Wells did last season. And you do have to remember that most of those defensive players were around to practice against Reggie Bush and LenDale White.

and people call ohio state fans homers.

DragonFireKai
03-04-2008, 11:52 PM
yea, again, the ypc argument doesn't work when one back has over 2x the amount of carries of another...and Beanie is a better "running back" than both Bush and White...Bush was a better player mainly because he isn't a true RB and could also be a slot receiver, and White was just a power back...I wasn't thinking in terms of who they have faced individually over the past 5 years, more of who the defense as a collective whole have faced last year, because just because 1 or 2 players faced AP 4 years ago doesn't make this defense so great

Johnson also performed much better against mutual opponents. Against Washington Chris Wells averaged 5.6 yards per carry, Johnson averaged 8.7, against Illinois Wells averaged 3.8 yards per carry, Johnson averaged 11.6. Wells has a little more power than Johnson, but Johnson is quite a bit faster than Wells.

As for wells being better than Bush or White, you're off there. Wells was a better runnning back than Bush on runs between the tackles, Bush was a much better runner on runs to the outside, and a much better pass catcher, White was a much better runner between the tackles than Wells, as good as Wells to the outside, and a better pass catcher. People forget that White averaged 6.6 yards per carry in 05.

But the experience of the defense is the sum of the experiences of all the players on that defense. If Kyle Moore goes into the game knowing that when he was a Freshman, he earholed Darren McFadden, do you think he's going to be shaking at the prospect of doing the same to a lesser back now that he's bigger, faster, stronger, and more experienced? Kevin Ellison knocked Marshawn Lynch for a loop, is he going to worry about an inferior running back?

and people call ohio state fans homers.

I know... Good thing I'm not a USC fan.

Sniper
03-05-2008, 10:45 AM
Johnson also performed much better against mutual opponents. Against Washington Chris Wells averaged 5.6 yards per carry, Johnson averaged 8.7, against Illinois Wells averaged 3.8 yards per carry, Johnson averaged 11.6. Wells has a little more power than Johnson, but Johnson is quite a bit faster than Wells.

As for wells being better than Bush or White, you're off there. Wells was a better runnning back than Bush on runs between the tackles, Bush was a much better runner on runs to the outside, and a much better pass catcher, White was a much better runner between the tackles than Wells, as good as Wells to the outside, and a better pass catcher. People forget that White averaged 6.6 yards per carry in 05.

But the experience of the defense is the sum of the experiences of all the players on that defense. If Kyle Moore goes into the game knowing that when he was a Freshman, he earholed Darren McFadden, do you think he's going to be shaking at the prospect of doing the same to a lesser back now that he's bigger, faster, stronger, and more experienced? Kevin Ellison knocked Marshawn Lynch for a loop, is he going to worry about an inferior running back?






Let's go over this stupidity one point at a time.

A) Do you not understand the concept that it is easier to rack up sick YPC when you have less carries? Next thing you know you're going to tell me Michael Turner is a better back than LT because he had a higher YPC.

B) Watch Chris Wells. Johnson isn't "quite a bit faster" than him. Ask LSU how fast Beanie Wells is.

C) "White was a much better runner between the tackles than Wells, as good as Wells to the outside, and a better pass catcher." That's so mind-boggingly dumb to say I don't even know how to reply. First off, we don't know how good Wells is as a pass-catcher, because OSU doesn't throw to their RBs much. Second of all, Wells and White are a push inside, and Wells shits on White to the outside. Wells runs a legit 4.45, White might run a 4 minute, 45 second 40.

D) Beanie Wells is a better collegiate back than Marshawn Lynch, and significantly more powerful than Darren McFadden, so both of those points make little to no sense.

The sad thing is, I'm defending an OSU player. I try to avoid doing that, being a Michigan fan and all, but even Michigan fans recognize Wells' greatness.

iowatreat54
03-05-2008, 11:52 AM
Johnson also performed much better against mutual opponents. Against Washington Chris Wells averaged 5.6 yards per carry, Johnson averaged 8.7, against Illinois Wells averaged 3.8 yards per carry, Johnson averaged 11.6. Wells has a little more power than Johnson, but Johnson is quite a bit faster than Wells.

As for wells being better than Bush or White, you're off there. Wells was a better runnning back than Bush on runs between the tackles, Bush was a much better runner on runs to the outside, and a much better pass catcher, White was a much better runner between the tackles than Wells, as good as Wells to the outside, and a better pass catcher. People forget that White averaged 6.6 yards per carry in 05.

But the experience of the defense is the sum of the experiences of all the players on that defense. If Kyle Moore goes into the game knowing that when he was a Freshman, he earholed Darren McFadden, do you think he's going to be shaking at the prospect of doing the same to a lesser back now that he's bigger, faster, stronger, and more experienced? Kevin Ellison knocked Marshawn Lynch for a loop, is he going to worry about an inferior running back?



I know... Good thing I'm not a USC fan.

first off, we had this discussion prior to the NC game and Sniper just said it, YPC DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING WHEN ONE BACK HAS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS CARRIES THAN THE OTHER!!!! I mean, I could carry the ball once for a 50 yard TD, therefore I am the greatest back ever cuz I had 50 ypc avg?

and I said Wells is a better "true" back, meaning more well rounded...Bush is/was basically a swing back, he wasn't very good at running between the tackles and is pretty much a slot WR or WR out of the backfield, but that doesn't mean I think he isn't a better overall player...and White is pretty much a FB, he is not better "between the tackles" than Wells, he just powers his way through everything, and you argument is done if you think he is better outside than Wells

finally, I understand that experience counts for a lot and I agree with it...what I meant is, how does one player facing AP like 3 years ago make the whole defense better? So, just because one player layed out a great RB, it makes the rest of the defense not intimidated? He might be able to tell his teammates something, but his experience doesn't translate into the whole D being experienced...you're acting like because Kyle Moore hit DMC once that he can do it every single play to every other RB and because his teammates know that, then so can they

I won't argue that certain players have seen better backs over the past couple years, I was originally wrong in that point, but just because a handful have seen great backs individually doesn't mean that everyone else on the D will act the same way as them

and Sniper, I know, arguing for OSU is painful, but Beanie dominates, we all just have to accept that lol

TouchdownUSC
03-05-2008, 12:29 PM
Sounds like a lot of people are underrating usc's defense which might be the best defense in the country next year. Also I really like beanie but what good defenses did he really face last year besides LSU and penn state maybe. Also I'm not convinced he is better than lynch yet. I might be willing to agree they are around the same level but either way I'm not that worried about him.

iowatreat54
03-05-2008, 03:39 PM
Sounds like a lot of people are underrating usc's defense which might be the best defense in the country next year. Also I really like beanie but what good defenses did he really face last year besides LSU and penn state maybe. Also I'm not convinced he is better than lynch yet. I might be willing to agree they are around the same level but either way I'm not that worried about him.

I really don't underrate the USC defense, I will admit they are one of the best...I was more of arguing with the one poster that thinks one player's experience will automatically enable the rest of the defense to shut someone down...they may shut down beanie, they may not, but it won't be because Kyle Moore faced DMC his freshman year, but because of how they play as a team

BigJohn98
03-06-2008, 10:12 PM
If Ohio State comes within 21 of USC, I will give Ohio State credit.

etk
03-06-2008, 10:15 PM
If Ohio State comes within 21 of USC, I will give Ohio State credit.

You do realize that O$U returns everyone and USC has lost a ton? You can't just look at the team legacies to determine who will win. I'll take that bet if you'd like :)

YAYareaRB
03-06-2008, 10:34 PM
oh you mean the one where Beanie was pretty much dominating until OSU decided to throw 95% of plays from halftime on? You're right, that 146 yards with 7.3 ypc means nothing...oh, and his speed had nothing to do with that 65 yard opening drive TD...

Well yeah you're proving my point. They relied heavily on him and STILL lost. So the "two words" shouldn't mean that much to USC. I didn't say he wasn't a factor or sucked in the NC game because I'm well aware of his performance. But he can't be the primary target, go-to-guy, etc etc etc. They have to find someone else who can score.

Sniper
03-06-2008, 10:39 PM
You do realize that O$U returns everyone and USC has lost a ton? You can't just look at the team legacies to determine who will win. I'll take that bet if you'd like :)

OSU +21? I think I'll take that bet.

KCJ58
03-06-2008, 10:41 PM
Rams 18-1 (Superbowl Loss)

We go undefeated during the season then play the Colts in the Superbowl, it goes 24-24 and the end of regulation. We go to overtime we win the coin toss, we drive down the field, Steven Jackson does work, anyway we line up for a 32-yard FG attempt, and Josh Brown breaks his leg, we miss it, then Peyton drives down the field, Adam Vinatieri lines up for a 39-yard FG, he makes it, it's goooood!!!, we lose Bulger cries and Scott Linehan gets fired

edit: i thought this was the NFL thread my bad

YAYareaRB
03-06-2008, 10:50 PM
QB - USC, Three of USC QBs would start over Boeckmen anywhere.
HB - Draw. Beanie Wells has the slight advantage of USC's starter but USC's depth is superior to what Beanie Wells can do.
FB - USC, Stanley Havili is really good and one of the best all around FBs in the nation
WR - USC kicks OSU's ass in this category
TE - OSU, can't name either teams TE
OL - OSU, USC is losing too much and OSU is returning who should be one of the best OL in next year's draft
DL - USC, they're reloading with more talent then OSU
LB - USC, Laurenitis is good but so is Maualuga and Cushing. Maiava is coming in looking for a starting spot.
CB - OSU, returning good players in the secondary but with the best DB in country, Malcolm Jenkins
S - USC, Returning both starters with Taylor Mays, who should be one of the best safties in the country next year.

Sniper
03-06-2008, 11:02 PM
QB - USC, Three of USC QBs would start over Boeckmen anywhere.
HB - Draw. Beanie Wells has the slight advantage of USC's starter but USC's depth is superior to what Beanie Wells can do.


QB: Boeckman may not be as talented, but he does have a lot of experience. Sanchez? Not so much

RB: Draw? No way. Wells will be the best back in the country next season, and it ain't close. Don't even try to bring your Knowshon Moreno **** around here because I'll Dikembe that so bad your head will spin. USC has a lot of depth, but someone needs to step up and be the man. Paging Stefon Johnson, paging Stefon Johnson.

TouchdownUSC
03-07-2008, 11:26 AM
I think McKnight is more deadly against Ohio State's defense than Beanie will be against SC's defense. USC has a fast defense so Beanie wont be able to get to the outside much and USC will know he will be running up the middle most of the time. I think McKnight with his speed and catching ability can do more damage to Ohio State's defense that in my opinion looked kind of slow in comparison to LSU in the national championship game. Just my opinion.

TouchdownUSC
03-07-2008, 11:29 AM
Also I think Boeckman is just an average QB. I think whether it is Sanchez or Mustain starting, either will have an advantage over Boeckman. The only edge Boeckman has is he has started in a few more games but based on talent I take Sanchez or Mustain.

Turtlepower
03-07-2008, 11:44 AM
I apologize for all the USC fans here spouting off the condescending nonsense. Beanie Wells is possibly the second-best RB in college (Knowshon Moreno). Now, I think McKnight is possibly a top-10 RB in college, but he wears a defense down differently than Wells.

Boeckman is an above-average QB, but I do agree with the USC fans that they have 3 QBs on their roster with more talent than him. That is not saying that they will perform better because a lot of times experience trumps talent.

I think that USC will win this game and they will probably win it by at least 1 TD just because I think that OSU's front-seven is a bit overrated. But to say that Stafon Johnson is better than Beanie Wells is just plain homerism.

etk
03-07-2008, 11:52 AM
QB - USC, Three of USC QBs would start over Boeckmen anywhere.
HB - Draw. Beanie Wells has the slight advantage of USC's starter but USC's depth is superior to what Beanie Wells can do.
FB - USC, Stanley Havili is really good and one of the best all around FBs in the nation
WR - USC kicks OSU's ass in this category
TE - OSU, can't name either teams TE
OL - OSU, USC is losing too much and OSU is returning who should be one of the best OL in next year's draft
DL - USC, they're reloading with more talent then OSU
LB - USC, Laurenitis is good but so is Maualuga and Cushing. Maiava is coming in looking for a starting spot.
CB - OSU, returning good players in the secondary but with the best DB in country, Malcolm Jenkins
S - USC, Returning both starters with Taylor Mays, who should be one of the best safties in the country next year.

QB - Agree
RB - Disagree. Wells is the workhorse and it doesn't matter how much depth USC has because giving Wells all the carries only helps OSU. I like Brandon Saine a lot and I might take him over any of USC's backs as well. He's a great receiving option.
FB - USC, but who really cares?
WR - Draw. Hazelton and Turner are impressive but Robiskie and Hartline are good deep threats that work hard. OSU has the big-play passing game to complement their power run game.
OSU - Nicol is solid, USC will be starting a fresh face.
OL - OSU, but I think both lines will be relatively in consistent.
DL - Really close call. I give USC a slight edge because they always tend to have great DLine play.
LB - Another one that's very debatable. I like Maualaga over Laurinaitis but Freeman over Cushing. Grant is a bigger loss than OSU fans expect. I take USC by a bit.
DB - OSU by far. Jenkins, Washington, Russell, etc. You can't evaluate CB and S separately.

On paper it's close, but a lot of USC's big-time contributors are young and inexperienced. You don't just lose all the talent USC lost and still remain one of the best teams in the nation, no matter who's replacing.

etk
03-07-2008, 11:54 AM
I think McKnight is more deadly against Ohio State's defense than Beanie will be against SC's defense. USC has a fast defense so Beanie wont be able to get to the outside much and USC will know he will be running up the middle most of the time. I think McKnight with his speed and catching ability can do more damage to Ohio State's defense that in my opinion looked kind of slow in comparison to LSU in the national championship game. Just my opinion.

LOL. Mendenhall shredded your D and that was with Rivers, Ellis and Jackson in the box. Wells is tougher on contact and has better vision. Stop the homerism please.

Turtlepower
03-07-2008, 11:57 AM
LOL. Mendenhall shredded your D and that was with Rivers, Ellis and Jackson in the box. Wells is tougher on contact and has better vision. Stop the homerism please.

To the Mendenhall point, minus his one carry of 79 yards and Mendenhall averaged only 4.75 YPC in that game. Now that is nice, but it isn't as destructive as people are leading everyone to believe.

etk
03-07-2008, 11:59 AM
To the Mendenhall point, minus his one carry of 79 yards and Mendenhall averaged only 4.75 YPC in that game. Now that is nice, but it isn't as destructive as people are leading everyone to believe.

What do you think Beanie Wells does? He pounds the defense and chips away 4 a piece and then breaks away for a 60 yarder. This is just about how Wells compares to the USC defense.

Turtlepower
03-07-2008, 12:05 PM
What do you think Beanie Wells does? He pounds the defense and chips away 4 a piece and then breaks away for a 60 yarder. This is just about how Wells compares to the USC defense.

I wasn't saying anything wrong against Beanie, I was just commenting on Mendenhall. I think the game for USC's defense will be decided between the tackles because you are right. If Beanie can wear down the defense consistently get 5 or 6 YPC, it will be a tough game for USC. I think the game comes down to USC's LB core and how well they come up to contain Beanie. My opinion on that matter is that Beanie is great, but Cushing and Maualuga are better.

etk
03-07-2008, 12:08 PM
Every great college linebacker overpursues (excluding Derrick Brooks). Maualaga is very explosive and fast but this can be a detriment against a back like Wells. I expect him (Wells) to have a big day.

Turtlepower
03-07-2008, 12:15 PM
Every great college linebacker overpursues (excluding Derrick Brooks). Maualaga is very explosive and fast but this can be a detriment against a back like Wells. I expect him (Wells) to have a big day.

My prediction is 125 on 28 carries. That's a nice day, but not enough to overcome USC's rabid defense.

Sniper
03-07-2008, 01:46 PM
I apologize for all the USC fans here spouting off the condescending nonsense. Beanie Wells is possibly the second-best RB in college (Knowshon Moreno). Now, I think McKnight is possibly a top-10 RB in college, but he wears a defense down differently than Wells.

Boeckman is an above-average QB, but I do agree with the USC fans that they have 3 QBs on their roster with more talent than him. That is not saying that they will perform better because a lot of times experience trumps talent.

I think that USC will win this game and they will probably win it by at least 1 TD just because I think that OSU's front-seven is a bit overrated. But to say that Stafon Johnson is better than Beanie Wells is just plain homerism.

Get the **** out of here with this Moreno>Wells ****.

Turtlepower
03-07-2008, 01:49 PM
Get the **** out of here with this Moreno>Wells ****.

I'm not saying that Moreno is lights out better than Wells, but if I was to choose between the two RBs, I would choose Moreno. Moreno is a stud.

TouchdownUSC
03-07-2008, 01:56 PM
LOL. Mendenhall shredded your D and that was with Rivers, Ellis and Jackson in the box. Wells is tougher on contact and has better vision. Stop the homerism please.

Mendenhall shredded our defense? what game were you watching because the one i saw they got blown out and he might have had 2 or 3 good runs at the most.

etk
03-07-2008, 02:04 PM
Mendenhall shredded our defense? what game were you watching because the one i saw they got blown out and he might have had 2 or 3 good runs at the most.

What does the final score have to do with Mendenhall shredding your defense? Take off the homer glasses dude.

TouchdownUSC
03-07-2008, 02:05 PM
I'm not saying that Moreno is lights out better than Wells, but if I was to choose between the two RBs, I would choose Moreno. Moreno is a stud.

Moreno is good but at this very moment between the two i'd probably take Wells.

TouchdownUSC
03-07-2008, 02:07 PM
What does the final score have to do with Mendenhall shredding your defense? Take off the homer glasses dude.


homer glasses? im not denying Mendenhall isnt a good running back i just didn't see him dominate our defense the way you are claiming. I saw Mendenhall have a pretty good first quarter and then struggle from there on and by the time we were in the middle of the third quarter they were down so much they pretty much had to pass enitrely. he's a good tailback but I didn't really see him own anyone in that game.

etk
03-07-2008, 02:12 PM
homer glasses? im not denying Mendenhall isnt a good running back i just didn't see him dominate our defense the way you are claiming. I saw Mendenhall have a pretty good first quarter and then struggle from there on and by the time we were in the middle of the third quarter they were down so much they pretty much had to pass enitrely. he's a good tailback but I didn't really see him own anyone in that game.

He had enough big runs to fill up Sportscenter and the NFLN....that's what I saw. USC struggled with his burst and cuts.

TouchdownUSC
03-07-2008, 02:23 PM
By the third quarter he wasnt really even getting carries. They threw to him a few times but i didnt see a ton of yards after catch. In the first quarter he had a few bursts. Beanie might be stronger than him but I dont think he is quicker.

Turtlepower
03-07-2008, 05:15 PM
To get away from this argument...

What does everyone predict the conference standings will be in their respective conference (just too lazy to do them all):

PAC-10

1. USC
2. Arizona State
3. Oregon
4. UCLA
5. Cal
6. Stanford
7. OSU
8. Washington
9. Wazzu
10. Arizona

iowatreat54
03-07-2008, 05:30 PM
Big 10 (this is me being half hopeful, half realistic)

1. Wisconsin
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Iowa
5. Michigan
6. Illinois
7. Purdue
8. Michigan State
9. Minnesota
10. Indiana
11. Northwestern

now let me explain myself lol I expect OSU to win, but I can see them losing to Wisconsin and at least tying for first...yes I have Iowa 4th, I can dream...Illinois will not be as good as last year and I can see them taking a little step back...I see Minnesota playing a lot of freshmen and improving a little, while Indiana takes some major steps back in losing their 3 top offensive players (Lewis was just kicked off the team, but maybe not permanent)...flame away fans of whatever team you are lol

YAYareaRB
03-07-2008, 07:41 PM
QB: Boeckman may not be as talented, but he does have a lot of experience. Sanchez? Not so much

RB: Draw? No way. Wells will be the best back in the country next season, and it ain't close. Don't even try to bring your Knowshon Moreno **** around here because I'll Dikembe that so bad your head will spin. USC has a lot of depth, but someone needs to step up and be the man. Paging Stefon Johnson, paging Stefon Johnson.


Dikimbe it.. Knowshon Moreno is gonna **** on Beanie Wells next season, QUOTE THAT! Judging RBs is really a point of view type thing. I'm more of a If-you-got-depth-use-em type of guy rather than the #1-on-the-depth-chart-will-get-all-the carries type of guy. And whoever thinks Brandon Saine is better than Stafon Johnson needs to be slapped.

etk
03-08-2008, 11:16 AM
And whoever thinks Brandon Saine is better than Stafon Johnson needs to be slapped.

After what I saw of Saine as a true freshman...Saine will slap around Johnson when he gets more touches.

LOL. I love Big 10 homers...especially Iowa.

iowatreat54
03-08-2008, 11:32 AM
After what I saw of Saine as a true freshman...Saine will slap around Johnson when he gets more touches.

LOL. I love Big 10 homers...especially Iowa.

yea, and if you actually read something you would know that I don't really expect us to finish that high, that I was just dreaming, hence me saying it's "half hopeful, half realistic" and "yes I have Iowa 4th, I can dream"...but it's ok, you can keep being a dbag, I'll understand

and if it's in reference to Beanie Wells, he is a top 2 back in the country, so idk how I'm a homer by saying that

YAYareaRB
03-08-2008, 01:25 PM
After what I saw of Saine as a true freshman...Saine will slap around Johnson when he gets more touches.

LOL. I love Big 10 homers...especially Iowa.

Tell Saine when he's done sharing with one other running back see how he does sharing with four other running backs.

etk
03-08-2008, 02:08 PM
yea, and if you actually read something you would know that I don't really expect us to finish that high, that I was just dreaming, hence me saying it's "half hopeful, half realistic" and "yes I have Iowa 4th, I can dream"...but it's ok, you can keep being a dbag, I'll understand

and if it's in reference to Beanie Wells, he is a top 2 back in the country, so idk how I'm a homer by saying that

Look man....I know your thought process and you don't need to attack me. All I said was I love Big 10 homers, which there are a lot of. You're not half as bad as most so just chill.

Tell Saine when he's done sharing with one other running back see how he does sharing with four other running backs.

That's a valid point, but I don't like hearing all this hype about USC players that have hardly seen the field. I've seen enough of Saine to know he's very good and I don't have much respect for Johnson if he can't beat out Washington or McKnight, even though I've liked him for a while. Neither of those backs have impressed me much and I thought Johnson was the best of the bunch.

iowatreat54
03-08-2008, 02:45 PM
Look man....I know your thought process and you don't need to attack me. All I said was I love Big 10 homers, which there are a lot of. You're not half as bad as most so just chill.

well when you call me out personally I will take offense to it, especially since I admitted that I was dreaming about Iowa being as high 4th and said that my predictions weren't fully realistic...I apologize for the attack, I just don't like waking up in the morning to being singled out in a personal predictions thread

etk
03-08-2008, 05:01 PM
I said I love Big 10 homers...especially Iowa homers. I didn't say anything about you and I didn't even quote your post. For all you know I could've seen you saying "this is a dream Iowa season" and that would've reminded me of other posters/fans, hence my response.

YAYareaRB
03-08-2008, 05:04 PM
That's a valid point, but I don't like hearing all this hype about USC players that have hardly seen the field. I've seen enough of Saine to know he's very good and I don't have much respect for Johnson if he can't beat out Washington or McKnight, even though I've liked him for a while. Neither of those backs have impressed me much and I thought Johnson was the best of the bunch.

I've seen Saine play and I don't understand why your hyping him up so much. Stafon Johnson and Joe McKnight are gonna be a duo to watch this upcoming season. Please believe Joe and Stafon have seen the field plenty. They've both impressed me. With solid QB play, which is expected to come from Sanchez, this running game could be really tough to beat..

iowatreat54
03-08-2008, 05:15 PM
I said I love Big 10 homers...especially Iowa homers. I didn't say anything about you and I didn't even quote your post. For all you know I could've seen you saying "this is a dream Iowa season" and that would've reminded me of other posters/fans, hence my response.

well my bad then, you said you love Big 10 homers, especially Iowa...and since I'm the only Iowa poster in this thread and my name begins with Iowa, I assumed you were referring to me, so I apologize...but a lot of Iowa fans are ridiculous homers, which is another reason I get very defensive because a lot of people generalize and it sucks, especially when the one other poster on this board has such a reputation :(

etk
03-08-2008, 09:15 PM
well my bad then, you said you love Big 10 homers, especially Iowa...and since I'm the only Iowa poster in this thread and my name begins with Iowa, I assumed you were referring to me, so I apologize...but a lot of Iowa fans are ridiculous homers, which is another reason I get very defensive because a lot of people generalize and it sucks, especially when the one other poster on this board has such a reputation :(

I definitely see where you got the idea that I was bashing you, but there was no need to get that defensive. It's all cool.

TouchdownUSC
03-10-2008, 03:46 PM
To get away from this argument...

What does everyone predict the conference standings will be in their respective conference (just too lazy to do them all):

PAC-10

1. USC
2. Arizona State
3. Oregon
4. UCLA
5. Cal
6. Stanford
7. OSU
8. Washington
9. Wazzu
10. Arizona

You expect Stanford to be that high?

1. USC
2. ASU
3. UCLA
4. Cal
5. Oregon
6. Washington
7. Oregon State
8. Stanford
9. Arizona
10. Washington State

etk
03-10-2008, 03:48 PM
That list looks pretty weak....those teams are all losing a lot. I could see Washington ending up 2nd or 3rd.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm talking about the Pac-10, not your individual list.

YAYareaRB
03-11-2008, 11:08 AM
Oregon and Cal are losing some key players

TouchdownUSC
03-12-2008, 09:44 PM
Oregon and Cal are losing some key players


What team in the pac 10 ISNT losing a lot of their key players? (besides maybe ASU)

YAYareaRB
03-13-2008, 12:06 AM
What team in the pac 10 ISNT losing a lot of their key players? (besides maybe ASU)

Who's gonna fill in for Dennis Dixon up at Oregon? Stewart?.. Desean Jackson, Lavelle Hawkins? Who? USC is pretty set and the only big loss would be Ellis. USC always seems to have a good DL on hand for the next season. QB at USC has a load of depth so no worries there. Sam Baker might be the only question mark I see. Bruce Davis is biggest loss for UCLA. Shannon Tevaga on the line.

TouchdownUSC
03-13-2008, 01:22 AM
Oregon, cal, oregon state, arizona are all pac ten teams losing very key players.

YAYareaRB
03-13-2008, 11:27 AM
Oregon, cal, oregon state, arizona are all pac ten teams losing very key players.

Sorry for missing TWO teams. I was really talking about the TOP 5. Like actual contenders for the Pac-10 titles. Don't really care much for OSU or Arizona