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bearsfan_51
02-11-2008, 04:07 PM
No trades. No comments. Enjoy and leave your thoughts. Sorry it's not more organized.




1) Miami Dolphins- Chris Long, Hybrid 3-4, Virginia
2) St. Louis Rams- Sedrick Ellis, Defensive Tackle, Southern Cal
3) Oakland Raiders- Glenn Dorsey, Defensive Tackle, Louisiana State
4) Atlanta Falcons- Darren McFadden, Runningback, Arkansas
5) Kansas City Chiefs- Jake Long, Offensive Tackle, Michigan
6) New York Jets- Vernon Gholston, Outside Linebacker, Ohio State
7) New England Patriots- Ryan Clady, Offensive Tackle, Boise State
8) Baltimore Ravens- Matt Ryan, Quarterback, Boston College
9) Cincinnati Bengals- Keith Rivers, Outside Linebacker, Southern Cal
10) New Orleans Saints- Leodis McKelvin, Cornerback, Troy State
11) Buffalo Bills- Malcolm Kelly, Wide Receiver, Oklahoma
12) Denver Broncos- Kenny Phillips, Safety, Miami
13) Carolina Panthers- Jeff Otah, Offensive Tackle, Pittsburgh
14) Chicago Bears- Chris Williams, Offensive Tackle, Vanderbilt
15) Detroit Lions- Aqib Talib, Cornerback, Kansas
16) Arizona Cardinals- Mike Jenkins, Cornerback, South Florida
17) Minnesota Vikings- Derrick Harvey, Defensive End, Florida
18) Houston Texans- Jonathan Stewart, Runningback, Oregon
19) Philadelphia Eagles- Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Cornerback, Tennessee State
20) Tampa Bay Bucs- Brian Brohm, Quarterback, Louisville
21) Washington Redskins- Limas Sweed, Wide Receiver, Texas
22) Dallas Cowboys (f/Cle)- Desean Jackson, Wide Receiver, Cal
23) Pittsburgh Steelers- Carl Nicks, Offensive Tackle, Nebraska
24) Tennessee Titans- James Hardy, Wide Receiver, Indiana
25) Seattle Seahawks- Rashard Mendenhall, Runningback, Illinois
26) Jacksonville Jaguars- Phillip Merling, Defensive End, Clemson
27) San Diego Chargers- Kentwan Balmer, Defensive End, North Carolina
28) Dallas Cowboy- Reggie Smith, Defensive Back, Oklahoma
29) San Fran 49’ers- Gosder Cherilus, Offensive Tackle, Boston College
30) Green Bay Packers- Felix Jones, Runningback, Arkansas
31) New York Giants- Ali Highsmith, Outside Linebacker, Louisiana State

32) Miami Dolphins- Brandon Flowers, Cornerback, Virginia Tech
33) St. Louis Rams- Anthony Collins, Offensive Tackle, Kansas
34) Atlanta Falcons- Dan Conner, Inside Linebacker, Penn State
35) Kansas City Chiefs- Tracy Porter, Cornerback, Indiana
36) New York Jets- Mario Manningham, Wide Receiver, Michigan
37) Oakland Raiders- Calais Campbell, Defensive End, Miami
38) Baltimore Ravens- Antoine Cason, Cornerback, Arizona
39) San Fran 49’ers- Devin Thomas, Wide Receiver, Michigan State
40) New Orleans Saints- Pat Sims, Defensive Tackle, Auburn
41) Buffalo Bills- Erin Henderson, Outside Linebacker, Maryland
42) Denver Broncos- Sam Baker, Offensive Tackle, Southern Cal
43) Carolina Panthers- Andre Woodson, Quarterback, Kentucky
44) Chicago Bears- Joe Flacco, Quarterback, Deleware
45) Detroit Lions- Jerod Mayo, Linebacker, Tennessee
46) Cincinnati Bengals- Quentin Groves, Defensive End, Auburn
47) Minnesota Vikings- Early Doucett, Wide Receiver, Louisiana State
48) Atlanta Falcons- Chad Henne, Quarterback, Michigan
49) Philadelphia Eagles- Jordy Nelson, Wide Receiver, Kansas State
50) Arizona Cardinals- Letroy Guion, Defensive Line, Florida State
51) Washington Redskins- Lawrence Jackson, Defensive End, Southern Cal
52) Tampa Bay Bucs- Earl Bennett, Wide Receiver, Vanderbilt
53) Pittsburgh Steelers- Branden Albert, Guard, Virginia
54) Tennessee Titans- Fred Davis, Tight End, Southern Cal
55) Seattle Seahawks- John Carlson, Tight End, Notre Dame
56) Cleveland Browns- Red Bryant, Nose Tackle, Texas A&M
57) Miami Dolphins- Marcus Harrison, Nose Tackle, Arkansas
58) Jacksonville Jaguars- Lavelle Hawkins, Wide Receiver, California
59) Dallas Cowboys- Chris Johnson, Runningback, East Carolina
60) Green Bay Packers- Patrick Lee, Cornerback, Auburn
61) Indianapolis Colts- Curtis Lofton, Linebacker, Oklahoma
62) New England Patriots- Charles Godfrey, Cornerback, Iowa
63) New York Giants- Terrell Thomas, Cornerback, Southern Cal

64) Miami Dolphins- Barry Richardson, Offensive Tackle, Clemson
65) St. Louis Rams- Chris Ellis, Defensive End, Virginia Tech
66) Kansas City Chiefs- Adarius Bowman, Wide Receiver, Oklahoma State
67) New York Jets- Ahtyba Rubin, Nose Tackle, Iowa State
68) Atlanta Falcons- Tony Hills, Offensive Tackle, Texas
69) New England Patriots- Ezra Butler, Linebacker, Nevada
70) San Fran 49’ers- Shawn Crable, Outside Linebacker, Michigan
71) Buffalo Bills- Martellus Bennett, Tight End, Texas A&M
72) Buffalo Bills- Chevis Jackson, Cornerback, Louisiana State
73) Minnesota Vikings- Dejuan Morgan, Free Safety, North Carolina State
74) Carolina Panthers- Thomas Decoud, Free Safety, California
75) Chicago Bears- Chilo Rachal, Guard, Southern Cal
76) Detroit Lions- Tashard Choice, Runningback, Georgia Tech
77) Cincinnati Bengals- Demario Pressley, Defensive Tackle, North Carolina State
78) New Orleans Saints- Beau Bell, Inside Linebacker, UNLV
79) Houston Texans- Quentin Demps, Safety, UTEP
80) Philadelphia Eagles- Heath Benedict, Offensive Line, Newberry
81) Arizona Cardinals- Kevin Smith, Runningback, Central Florida
82) Minnesota Vikings- Donnie Avery, Wide Receiver, Houston
83) Tampa Bay Bucs- Trevor Laws, Defensive Tackle, Notre Dame
84) Washington Redskins- Roy Schuening, Guard, Oregon State
85) Tennessee Titans- Frank Okam, Defensive Tackle, Texas
86) Seattle Seahaws- Mike McGlynn, Offensive Line, Pittsburgh
87) Cleveland Browns- Chris Harrington, Outside Linebacker, Texas A&M
88) Pittsburgh Steelers- Matt Forte, Runningback, Tulane
89) Jacksonville Jaguars- Tom Zbikowski, Strong Safety, Notre Dame
90) Chicago Bears- Jamaal Charles, Runningback, Texas
91) Green Bay Packers- Martin Rucker, Tight End, Missouri
92) Dallas Cowboys- Justin King, Cornerback, Penn State
93) Indianapolis Colts- Eric Young, Guard, Tennessee
94) New England Patriots- Phillip Wheeler, Linebacker, Georgia Tech
95) New York Giants- Marcus Griffin, Safety, Texas

96) Miami Dolphins- Vince Hall, Inside Linebacker, Virginia Tech
97) St. Louis Rams- Drew Radovich, Guard, Southern Cal
98) New York Jets- Oniel Cousins, Offensive Line, UTEP
99) Oakland Raiders- Chad Rinehart, Offensive Tackle, Northern Iowa
100) Atlanta Falcons- Frank Morton, Defensive Tackle, Tulane
101) Kansas City Chiefs- John Greco, Offensive Line, Toledo
102) Baltimore Ravens- D.J. Hall, Wide Receiver, Alabama
103) San Fran 49’ers- Kendall Langford, Defensive End, Hampton
104) Denver Broncos- Xavier Adibi, Outside Linebacker, Virginia Tech
105) Carolina Panthers- Tavares Gooden, Linebacker, Miami
106) Chicago Bears- Tyrell Johnson, Safety, Arkansas State
107) Detroit Lions- Jermichael Finley, Tight End, Texas
108) Cincinnati Bengals- Jonathan Goff, Linebacker, Vanderbilt
109) New Orleans Saints- Jonathan Hefney, Free Safety, Tennessee
110) Buffalo Bills- Peyton Hills, Fullback, Arkansas
111) Philadelphia Eagles- Geno Hayes, Outside Linebacker, Florida State
112) Arizona Cardinals- Greyson Grunheim, Defensive End, Washington
113) Minnesota Vikings- John David Booty, Quarterback, Southern Cal
114) Houston Texans- Duane Brown, Offensive Tackle, Virginia Tech
115) Denver Broncos- Nick Hayden, Defensive Tackle, Wisconsin
116) Tampa Bay Bucs- Steve Justice, Center, Wake Forest
117) Seattle Seahawks- Dwight Lowry, Cornerback, San Jose State
118) Cleveland Browns- Mike Hart, Runningback, Michigan
119) Pittsburgh Steelers- Dominique Barber, Free Safety, Minnesota
120) Tennessee Titans- Dejuan Tribble, Cornerback, Boston College
121) Jacksonville Jaguars- Steve Wheatley, Cornerback, Colorado
122) Dallas Cowboys- Josh Barrett, Strong Safety, Arizona State
123) Indianapolis Colts- Jacob Tamme, Tight End, Kentucky
124) Green Bay Packers- Adam Kraus, Guard, Michigan
125) New England Patriots- Simeon Castille, Defensive Back, Alabama
126) New York Giants- Jerome Simpson, Wide Receiver, Coastal Carolina

BaLLiN
02-11-2008, 04:10 PM
I always like your mocks, another good job. I just dont like giants first rounder, and i feel that Terrell Thomas is more of a mid to lateThird rounder, but we really won't know until after the combine.

bearsfan_51
02-11-2008, 04:13 PM
I always like your mocks, another good job. I just dont like giants first rounder, and i feel that Terrell Thomas is more of a mid to lateThird rounder, but we really won't know until after the combine.
A lot of it was scheme and need for the Giants, particularly the Highsmith pick, who seems like a great fit for the Spag's defense.

BaLLiN
02-11-2008, 04:14 PM
A lot of it was scheme and need for the Giants, particularly the Highsmith pick, who seems like a great fit for the Spag's defense.

Yea he is, and its not that i dont like the pick its just the place, maybe a trade down or something.

nvot9
02-11-2008, 04:14 PM
What's your reasoning for the Jets taking MM and not addressing OL till the 4th round? Otherwise solid Jets draft, but I would just like to know your answer to the above question..

Patriots16-0
02-11-2008, 04:14 PM
Good Pats mock.

scottyboy
02-11-2008, 04:16 PM
A lot of it was scheme and need for the Giants, particularly the Highsmith pick, who seems like a great fit for the Spag's defense.

I agree. Highsmith would fit perfectly under Spags. Don't know much of Thomas, may be a reach, but CB is a need.

But no RU players in the 1st 4 rounds? come on BF51!

how bout you switch the Giants last pick to Zuttah or Sosa, we need OL depth pretty badly.

T-RICH49
02-11-2008, 04:18 PM
solid KC draft only thing(personal preferance) is Hillis in RD 4 KC needs a FB.the rest I LOVE

Mr.Regular
02-11-2008, 04:18 PM
I just skimmed over it, and I noticed you have Marcus Griffin going twice (Giants and Bears). Anyways I really like it. As a Packers fan, I dont think a RB is a first day need, but its possible.
But its a really good mock. I do think Tom Zbikowski and Tashard Choice are a little high and Wheeler, Godfrey, and Campbell are a little low. But Im nitpicking. Great mock, I like reading yours. Also, good call on Clady to New England. Thats what Im thinking at the moment if Gholston is gone.

bearsfan_51
02-11-2008, 04:20 PM
What's your reasoning for the Jets taking MM and not addressing OL till the 4th round? Otherwise solid Jets draft, but I would just like to know your answer to the above question..
Bad value. I originally had Gosder Cherilus going to New York at #36, but decided that the Niners wouldn't (or couldn't) pass on having an elite RT for Martz's 7 step offense. I see a real heavy run on offensive tackles (Nicks, Collins, etc) and am not sure there will be much there to be had for New York at that point.

bearsfan_51
02-11-2008, 04:23 PM
I just skimmed over it, and I noticed you have Marcus Griffin going twice (Giants and Bears). Anyways I really like it. As a Packers fan, I dont think a RB is a first day need, but its possible.
But its a really good mock. I do think Tom Zbikowski and Tashard Choice are a little high and Wheeler, Godfrey, and Campbell are a little low. But Im nitpicking. Great mock, I like reading yours. Also, good call on Clady to New England. Thats what Im thinking at the moment if Gholston is gone.
Thanks for pointing that out. I was going back and forth b/w Griffin and Johnson. I'm sure there are more mistakes.

And I'm higher on Zbikowski than others. I think he's getting over-analyzed.

LonghornsLegend
02-11-2008, 04:24 PM
Interesting seeing Desean Jackson fall to 22, I like the pick if he falls though honestly, he fits in nicely and fits a need...Reggie Smith is a great next pick with his versatility, he could play safety and justin king could play db...chris johnson is perfect as well...Id prefer Marcus Griffin at safety though because he has more range, and I want a safety back there covering ground...Justin King doesnt really fit the WP mold he likes his corners to be as in big and physical, but he can cover and will probably be a nickel db so its fine, he's not a high pick and his coverage skills would make up for any run defeciancies.


only thing to probably take into consideration is flozell is supposed to get the franchise tag, and at his age this is his last year here, so we need his replacement...I wouldnt mind taking somebody like Otah if he fell to 22 or someone else later since they have a year to learn before getting out there, but its a good chance we take our future LT somewhere in the first 3 picks, but otherwise Id be happy with how that draft turned out

SuperMcGee
02-11-2008, 04:26 PM
That is a very nice Bills mock throughout. I expected a pick on the D-line, but I can't complain about who we get. Chevis is alright, would've been perfect if Terrell Thomas fell another 10 picks.

BaLLiN
02-11-2008, 04:31 PM
You really think DaJuan Morgan Falls to the 3rd Round?

bearsfan_51
02-11-2008, 04:32 PM
You really think DaJuan Morgan Falls to the 3rd Round?
I would take Morgan much earlier personally. I'm a big fan. But yes, at the moment I do.

KCJ58
02-11-2008, 04:38 PM
Good Pats mock.

your username should be Patriots18-1

nvot9
02-11-2008, 04:47 PM
Bad value. I originally had Gosder Cherilus going to New York at #36, but decided that the Niners wouldn't (or couldn't) pass on having an elite RT for Martz's 7 step offense. I see a real heavy run on offensive tackles (Nicks, Collins, etc) and am not sure there will be much there to be had for New York at that point.

I'm not going to begin to tell you what they will or won't do, because I don't know at all what they will do, but I can say what I'd prefer. Bad value or not, I think Brandon Albert would make more sense for them at that point. I'm personally not a huge fan of Maningham and especially don't think he's a good fit for the Jets (mainly don't think he's a great fit for any team cause I'm not a fan of him) but yea, I'll take Albert and Langford/DJ Hall/Tribble/Anyone else you'd give us who's available in the 4th over MM and Oniel.

Again that's all just me personally..

xooberon
02-11-2008, 04:58 PM
what's with your obsession of giving the panthers andre woodson in the 2nd, it's a horrible pick that makes no sense. lawrence jackson would be much better

the rest of the draft is very good though

Crazy_Chris
02-11-2008, 05:00 PM
Very nice work, I like the Vikings draft a lot. However, I don't think we need to spend 2 picks on WR prospects in the first 3 rounds. Personally I actually like the sound of getting Donnie Avery in RD 3 and taking Fred Davis or John Carlson in RD 2.

Patriots16-0
02-11-2008, 05:01 PM
your username should be Patriots18-1
I know it...

thebow305
02-11-2008, 05:02 PM
Ok phins draft.

I'd rather have Cason or Campbell instead of Flowers in the 2nd, and instead of Vince Hall, who doesn't fit the 3-4 at all, I'd take Gooden or Goff for ILB. And if he don't go ILB, i'd take Finley there, because we do need a playmaker at TE as well.

So here's the draft i'd prefer in that situation:

1. Chris Long
2a. Antoine Cason
2b. Marcus Harrison
3. Barry Richardson
4. Jermichael Finley

KRS1
02-11-2008, 05:17 PM
I really have a hard time seeing the Chargers taking Balmer with Smith, Cherilus and Sam Baker still on the board.

Babylon
02-11-2008, 05:23 PM
Nice work.

The Dynasty
02-11-2008, 05:25 PM
I like it But I would like to see the vikings use a pick on a RT so maybe the Booty pick or Avery.

skiinginNJ
02-11-2008, 05:31 PM
pretty much hate the highsmith pick (dont see the giants taking a LB in round 1)

but the rest is good

bearsfan_51
02-11-2008, 05:48 PM
Ok phins draft.

I'd rather have Cason or Campbell instead of Flowers in the 2nd, and instead of Vince Hall, who doesn't fit the 3-4 at all, I'd take Gooden or Goff for ILB. And if he don't go ILB, i'd take Finley there, because we do need a playmaker at TE as well.

So here's the draft i'd prefer in that situation:

1. Chris Long
2a. Antoine Cason
2b. Marcus Harrison
3. Barry Richardson
4. Jermichael Finley
I've had conversations about Vince Hall in the 3-4 before and I still don't quite understand it. He's stout, and he's tackling machine. I think he has the ability to take on blockers, and the crop of 3-4 ILB talent is very weak in this draft.

All that said, I think the Dolphins will trade for Bobby Carpenter, I just didn't do trades this time.

GDWTheSickness
02-11-2008, 05:49 PM
lovin da cowboys mock! A overall draft

bearsfan_51
02-11-2008, 05:50 PM
what's with your obsession of giving the panthers andre woodson in the 2nd, it's a horrible pick that makes no sense. lawrence jackson would be much better

the rest of the draft is very good though
Well this is just the 2nd time I've done it, so I'd hardly call it an obsession.

The Panthers have the time to groom Woodson whereas a team like the Falcons or Ravens does not. And the Panthers, arguably more than anyone else, need a QB to groom. If you think Matt Moore is the reason why the Panthers wouldn't draft a QB of the future (and a great value at 43), I have no time debating such a ridiculous notion.

princefielder28
02-11-2008, 05:51 PM
good work BF_51

doingthisinsteadofwork
02-11-2008, 05:54 PM
overall good raiders draft.

defensiveback23
02-11-2008, 06:01 PM
DE is not nearly as big of a need for the Chargers as DB and OT. The Chargers have recently given both backups extensions and have two very good starters. We need a versatile DB that can play NB and S so Reggie Smith would be perfect. Jeromy Clary also leaves something to be desired at RT so Gosder Cherilus would also be a great selection.

stl9erfan
02-11-2008, 06:07 PM
Nice, I really like this mock for the Niners. I ::might:: prefer Calais Campbell in the first, but I can't really argue with the Gosder Cherilus pick-- if he's still available he'd make a lot of sense as the last piece to a good young OL. I'm also not really sold on the 4th round pick, but I don't really see anyone I'd like better available there, so I'm ok with it.If this was how it went down for SF, I'd be fairly happy.

Matthew Jones
02-11-2008, 06:21 PM
Like all Pats picks but #1.

bearsfan_51
02-11-2008, 06:30 PM
Very nice work, I like the Vikings draft a lot. However, I don't think we need to spend 2 picks on WR prospects in the first 3 rounds. Personally I actually like the sound of getting Donnie Avery in RD 3 and taking Fred Davis or John Carlson in RD 2.
I'm almost positive that was another brainfart on my part. Going to 4 rounds tripped me up a bit.

I agree on Donnie Avery though, especially if they cut Troy Williamson.

etk
02-11-2008, 06:36 PM
2/4 on the Bucs.

I'm still not buying QB in the first, especially not with Campbell and Merling available.

Solid 2nd rounder, but I'd prefer Hawkins there because I've already seen him perform against the top competition at the Senior Bowl. Bennett is not as athletic and has less ball skills.

Great pick in the 3rd

Crummy one in the 4th. I'm all for drafting a C to replace Wade, but not Justice. He's only a ZBS fit and doesn't have the strength to match up against NFL DTs. That's been our problem with Wade. Give us a stronger C like Velasco/Lichtensteiger or go with a CB.

regoob2
02-11-2008, 06:43 PM
I really like the Bears mock, I hope they go OL, early and often, good picks.

Vikes99ej
02-11-2008, 07:23 PM
Living in Minnesota must have an influence on you. You know exactly what we need. The only pick I'm a little unsure on is Morgan.

619
02-11-2008, 07:34 PM
I am really lovin this mock! Great job on the Raiders.

Thunder&Lightning
02-11-2008, 07:45 PM
rather see SD pick smith or cherilus than balmer...

Achilles33
02-11-2008, 08:16 PM
I'd Take that cowboys draft all day long besides the 4th rounder. We already have 2 SS's who aren't good at coverage. Give us an o-lineman.

Canadian_draft_fan
02-11-2008, 08:52 PM
Like the Redskins mock. We definitely need D and O line. While I'm not a fan of Limas Sweed in rd 1 it is a definite possibility with Zorn and a probable WCO for the Skins. Good job.

PalmerToCJ
02-11-2008, 09:00 PM
I'd kill for that Bengals draft... Fills our biggest needs.

BeerBaron
02-11-2008, 09:36 PM
lol, i figured a bears draft from you would be a pretty well thought out one.

i wouldnt mind seeing a WR in there of course but i guess its rather hard to fill 5 needs with 4 picks....

TitleTown088
02-11-2008, 09:39 PM
mmm mmm, that is one sexy packer mock. However, you must remember that ol' TT will always find a way to stick some small school kid in there on day one.

xooberon
02-12-2008, 05:51 AM
Well this is just the 2nd time I've done it, so I'd hardly call it an obsession.

The Panthers have the time to groom Woodson whereas a team like the Falcons or Ravens does not. And the Panthers, arguably more than anyone else, need a QB to groom. If you think Matt Moore is the reason why the Panthers wouldn't draft a QB of the future (and a great value at 43), I have no time debating such a ridiculous notion.

give me one reason why matt moore is not a viable backup who has serious starting potential down the road.

DiG
02-12-2008, 08:04 AM
i am not one of those guys that thinks sweed is worth the 21st overall plick. the next two rounds are fine but unless sweed wows me at the combine i dont see him cracking the first. i think the titans is the earliest he goes only because of his ties to Young. Otherwise I think hes rd 2 talent.

iloxygenil
02-12-2008, 09:34 AM
Nice work for the Falcons.

bearsfan_51
02-12-2008, 09:41 AM
give me one reason why matt moore is not a viable backup who has serious starting potential down the road.

Ugh...

He's started a total of 3 games. And he wasn't even very good in those. He was passed over by every team a total of 255 some odd times. Now, I understand that there are rare occasions where undrafted quarterbacks end up having good careers (though Trent Green is the only one I can think of), but the odds of that are rare, and there is never an occasion where the job is handed to them. Ever. So, you're presuming that a billion dollar corporation is going to turn over it's future, and arguably it's financial viability, to a guy that wasn't even very good in college, has proven nothing in the NFL, and was passed over roughly 255 times for the likes of Jordan Palmer.

No. It's not going to happen. Sorry.

bored of education
02-12-2008, 09:58 AM
A++++++ for the KC draft very nice + rep

xooberon
02-12-2008, 10:56 AM
Ugh...

He's started a total of 3 games. And he wasn't even very good in those. He was passed over by every team a total of 255 some odd times. Now, I understand that there are rare occasions where undrafted quarterbacks end up having good careers (though Trent Green is the only one I can think of), but the odds of that are rare, and there is never an occasion where the job is handed to them. Ever. So, you're presuming that a billion dollar corporation is going to turn over it's future, and arguably it's financial viability, to a guy that wasn't even very good in college, has proven nothing in the NFL, and was passed over roughly 255 times for the likes of Jordan Palmer.

No. It's not going to happen. Sorry.

.........have you even seen him play?

sportsnerd23
02-12-2008, 11:03 AM
Pretty good, i thought the Eagles mock was accurate

oldLibid21
02-12-2008, 11:10 AM
Good work, but I don't know if Falcons will go after Tony Hills in the third round. Maybe the fourth or fifth, but considering the injuries we've had at that position, I think we will be skeptical towards the injury-plagued players coming out of the draft. I don't know if he can bounce back, but Hills seems like a project player to me, and I think he will take a couple years of getting used to this power run blocking scheme. He's only 305 lbs. with a frame to get bigger, but until he gets bigger, I'd like to see one of our vets maybe Weiner start the tackle position. I'd rather us draft Red Bryant in the third round than Hills, but it's your mock, not mine. Other than that, I'd like how it would turn out for the Falcons.

GermanSaint
02-12-2008, 04:45 PM
the first saints draft here where i reall like all the picks.... i would make salti if that happens. but normally we draft only bpa in round 1 and small school projects in round 3-7 , the 2nd round sucks every year.

art vandelay
02-12-2008, 05:22 PM
Really good mock for the Bills. I'm probably the biggest Chevis Jackson fan on this site so I couldn't be happier with him on the Bills.

neko4
02-12-2008, 06:12 PM
I dont like that packers mock at all, RB in the first, did Ryan Grant fall of the face of the earth. And then a aTE in the 3rd, Lee did very well

bearsfan_51
02-12-2008, 06:28 PM
I dont like that packers mock at all, RB in the first, did Ryan Grant fall of the face of the earth. And then a aTE in the 3rd, Lee did very well
I've said many times before that I think Ryan Grant will come back down to earth hard. Even still, you need 2-3 good runningbacks in the NFL.

Lee did do very well, but Franks is expendable (though did decent this year), and I think Lee is benefitted by his role in the scheme and the fact that Favre does a really good job of using his TE/H-backs.

The minute you start thinking you're set at positions is when you regress as a team.

Smokey Joe
02-12-2008, 06:31 PM
I'm telling you now, Jamaal Charles will be long gone before our second pick in the 3rd. I'd love it if he was there, but he won't.

Smokey Joe
02-12-2008, 06:33 PM
I know I'm a Joe Flacco homer, but Brian Brohm, if he is there in the first for us (which I doubt, I am expecting to see him jump pass Ryan after the combine/pro days), should be the pick.

Dr. Gonzo
02-12-2008, 06:36 PM
Loved the mock for the Vikings. All I would change is giving us Martin Rucker instead of Donny Avery. With Rucker the mock is perfect. Nice work.

bearsfan_51
02-12-2008, 06:59 PM
I know I'm a Joe Flacco homer, but Brian Brohm, if he is there in the first for us (which I doubt, I am expecting to see him jump pass Ryan after the combine/pro days), should be the pick.
Maybe, but I don't think he will be. This isn't what I would do.

Bobo
02-12-2008, 07:34 PM
Hardy, Fred Davis, Okam, Tribble....looks good for the Titans. Really like the first two offensive picks.

Okam in the 3rd....well seems like most think that's good value. I'm not so sure, he's just not been very impressive when I've seen him. Charles or Forte would look good to me there, but I could see the Titans going d-line instead of RB.

Don't know much about Tribble, but we need CB depth for sure.

Hines
02-12-2008, 09:16 PM
I love the Steelers mock, but instead of FS in round 4, you should give us a reciever.

johbur
02-13-2008, 01:38 AM
Lee, Rucker and Kraus in R2-R4 would be a decent haul for the Packers. I haven't seen Rucker play and he has a soft label from Scott, but his brother was a hard-working self-made NFL player. I think Lee would be a very good value in R2. HATE the R1 pick. We have a fundamental disagreement on the Packers' backfield, so not a terrible pick, but I'd rather have Antoine Cason, Calais Campbell or Dan Connor if he can play SLB. Connor or Calais in R1 and Lee in R2 would make me pretty happy with the off-season for the defense.

JagHombre22
02-13-2008, 01:59 AM
solid jags draft...although, I didn't notice if Jamar Adams went before the Jaguars picked in the third, I would definitely take him then...

chug o nomics
02-13-2008, 09:43 AM
Vikes draft could definitely be a lot worse, but I'd rather we get Davis in the second. Pretty solid though, I'd be happy with it.

neko4
02-13-2008, 10:04 AM
I've said many times before that I think Ryan Grant will come back down to earth hard. Even still, you need 2-3 good runningbacks in the NFL.

Lee did do very well, but Franks is expendable (though did decent this year), and I think Lee is benefitted by his role in the scheme and the fact that Favre does a really good job of using his TE/H-backs.

The minute you start thinking you're set at positions is when you regress as a team.
How so? What did Grant do this year to make you think he'll regress.
From what we can tell he is a hard worker and he was sucessful against good defenses (SEA,MIN) and shreded bad defenses (OAK,DEN,DET)

49ersfan_87
02-13-2008, 10:26 AM
Niner picks

R1- Gosder Cherlius
R2- Devin Thomas
R3- Shawn Crable
R4- Kendall Langford

I gotta say....absolutely great mock draft. Fills some huge holes like DL, pass rusher, OL, and WR. That would absolutely be fantastic. Just to think ahead a bit, i'd like to follow it up by drafting a QB (bernard morris or josh johnson), a center (say fernando velasco) and then a pass catching RB (anthony alridge) and that would be a fantastic draft for the 49ers. Honestly though, well done. I don't know if the 49ers can do better than how you outlined it.

ancoin
02-14-2008, 04:50 PM
I love you dude! AWESOME vikes draft.

pickles
02-14-2008, 05:19 PM
Fantastic 49ers draft.

DaBears0530
02-14-2008, 09:03 PM
Best bears draft i have seen this year!!

Caddy
02-14-2008, 09:37 PM
Brian Brohm - A case can be easily made for Brohm, but ultimately I just can't see the Buccaneers passing up on Merling, Campbell and Desean Jackson. Jon Gruden has never been great at developing QB's which makes me extremely hesitant to take a quarterback. I would accept Brohm come draft day, but I would much rather see Jackson, Merling or Campbell.

Earl Bennett - Wide receiver is definitely a need although I'm not sure Bennett is the ideal fit. He is proficient at just about everything but he lacks the speed that Tampa's offense so sorely needs.

Trevor Laws - Good value. Good fit. Good pick.

Steve Justice - Not a great fit, but Tampa definitely needs a center. Considering no corners have been drafted Justice seems like a wasted pick.

proshoota25
02-17-2008, 01:17 AM
clady wont go to the pats, dont let one game fool you....... but awesome other picks.... wheeler is a stud