Adderall

[TitleTown088]

I bring this up because I'm in the library struggling to concentrate while reading about the documentary hypothesis of the bible. Meanwhile, my buddy come over to me after railing out 5 hours straight with the help of you know what. I think about every kid I know in college takes it to study without prescription. Personally, I would never touch the stuff because of my suspicions with pharmaceuticals, but I also view it as cheating academically. Steroids for students if you will. It's becoming a huge problem from what I see. What do you think? Know many people who abuse it?

By the way, no one turn this into a pro/anti drug debate. No one wants to hear your hippie mumbo jumbo and it's not allowed. It's possible to discuss it without doing so.

[Rich Jr]

I've taken Adderall/Stratterra/Ritalin you name it I took it. They all work, some take longer to work, some work longer than others. I suggest searching medical websites to see what time frame you'll be needing i.e. 2-3 4-6 hours. You can just go to your family doctor, tell hi the situation you need it to study and you can get a prescription fairly easy.

Hope I could help.

[dabears10]

I think it's a bigger problem in high school than college. I've seen it used in both scenarios, but in High School more people i knew of taking it.

[JJJ888]

I'm in college and I don't use it (nor do many of my friends here--if any), but a bunch of guys I new from high school used to use it. I'm not sure about abuse, but the day before a big paper or test were due, they'd do it.

Funny story concerning adderrall...one time, sophomore year (in high school), my friend and next door neighbor got suspended for drinking. He kept a bottle of riddelin I believe in his room for special occassions, and the teachers were going to search his room the next day to see if he had anymore illicit substances. So my friends and I tried our very hardest to get into his room (which was locked) and get the stuff out. We tried to pick the lock for a while, then, after trying and being unsuccessful for about 3 hours, we decided that the best approach was to have my friend climb outside my window onto this tiny little 1-inch wide ledge, scoot over to my neighbor's room, open the window, climb in, get the bottle out of his drawer, and climb back into my room. Needless to say, he didn't make it (the room was on the third floor), but the kid's mom came the next day anyway and got the drugs out. One of the craziest nights of my life.

[TitleTown088]

I've taken Adderall/Stratterra/Ritalin you name it I took it. They all work, some take longer to work, some work longer than others. I suggest searching medical websites to see what time frame you'll be needing i.e. 2-3 4-6 hours. You can just go to your family doctor, tell hi the situation you need it to study and you can get a prescription fairly easy.

Hope I could help.

No, I'm not interested. I think it's cheating to a degree. Are drugs really needed concentrate on school work? That's what I'm getting at.

[JJJ888]

No, I'm not interested. I think it's cheating to a degree. Are drugs really needed concentrate on school work? That's what I'm getting at.

No. Not at all. YOU CAN DO IT!

[Rich Jr]

No, I'm not interested. I think it's cheating to a degree. Are drugs really needed concentrate on school work? That's what I'm getting at.Dude, i'm ADD and I needed it. You sound like my dad, like there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance. People have it and they need it.

[JJJ888]

Dude, i'm ADD and I needed it. You sound like my dad, like there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance. People have it and they need it.

I think he means more for people who don't have ADD.

[Rich Jr]

I think he means more for people who don't have ADD.People do it. But if the thread is about people who use it but don't need it don't expect this thread not to be about a pro/anti drug debate.

[TitleTown088]

I think he means more for people who don't have ADD.

Yeah, i thought that would be pretty easily understood...then again he can't understand that Seinfeld is better than arrested development.

[Rich Jr]

Yeah, i thought that would be pretty easily understood...then again he can't understand that Seinfeld is better than arrested development.Dude, no need for the personal attack. Seriously.

[TitleTown088]

Dude, no need for the personal attack. Seriously.

Come on man, it was a simple joke in good fun.Relax. Seinfeld > AD.

[Rich Jr]

Come on man, it was a simple joke in good fun.Relax. Seinfeld > AD.Jokes are followed by haha and lol. You threw me off.

[TitleTown088]

Jokes are followed by haha and lol. You threw me off.

Meh, I don't use lol. Internet lingo is much too complicated for me.

[Staubach12]

No. Not at all. YOU CAN DO IT!

http://www.cineol.net/images/noticias/Cameos/Waterboy_2.jpg

[Rich Jr]

Meh, I don't use lol. Internet lingo is much too complicated for me.
rotflmao lol

[iowatreat54]

No, I'm not interested. I think it's cheating to a degree. Are drugs really needed concentrate on school work? That's what I'm getting at.

I don't really understand how it's considered cheating...I know people who use it when they need to get a lot of work done and will be up for a long period of time i.e. til like 4 in the morning and need to concentrate...and also know tons of people who take it while studying for finals so that they don't just mentally break down in the middle of studying...as long as you don't do like the night before a test but like a day before you have nothing and get some sleep afterwards, there's really nothing that bad about it if you use it once in a while

[umphrey]

It works but its a drug not a medicine, pretty much a pharmacy's version of meth at 1/5 the power. I'm surrounded by it in college. I think a lot of those types of disorders aren't really anything...like one person can concentrate more than another but does that mean they have a disease? In extreme cases maybe, but it is way over prescribed.

Also it is addicting to some people and in large doses over a small period of time can make you go clinically insane temporarily.

[Rich Jr]

It works but its a drug not a medicine, pretty much a pharmacy's version of meth at 1/5 the power. I'm surrounded by it in college. I think a lot of those types of disorders aren't really anything...like one person can concentrate more than another but does that mean they have a disease? In extreme cases maybe, but it is way over prescribed.

Also it is addicting to some people and in large doses over a small period of time can make you go clinically insane temporarily.Well for one thing Diseases and Disorders are two different things.

[cunningham06]

I have ADHD and take adderall. I don't buy that it is cheating academically, but what is unfair is extended time on SAT's and ACT's. It is completely unfair because that takes all the challenge out of the test. Kids with ADD should just load up on adderall before the test (which they do anyway), but giving them extended time is just unfair.

[DChess]

wrote a 6 pg paper before class this morning on adderall. i support it

[cunningham06]

If adderall is cheating then so is drinking coffee

[umphrey]

If adderall is cheating then so is drinking coffee

you know nothing

Well for one thing Diseases and Disorders are two different things.

you get what I mean, even if I get the terminology wrong

[wingboy2999]

I'm surprised this has stayed alive this long.

[cunningham06]

you know nothing


A compelling argument, please continue.

[jballa838]

this thread blows. I have ADD and dont take the **** and never filled a prescription. So people that do this are douche bags. If you cant pass do the work without help, you shouldnt be in college.

[yourfavestoner]

I've used it for school, and it's very effective. However, I don't really like to use it because, like tittletown is, I'm very anti-pharmy. Plus, there's the fact that it's pretty much chemically identical to meth. Personally, I'd rather use coke.

I wouldn' call it steroids for students or cheating, however. It's not like it makes you smarter or more intelligent.

[umphrey]

A compelling argument, please continue.

Comparing adderall to coffee is like comparing steroids to a multi vitamin...one is relatively safe and available to everyone, with mild effects and doesn't really help you much. Adderall does a lot more than help you stay awake. The other is a prescription drug that is not available to most and requires you to break the law. It has lots of adverse effects and does a lot of work for you.

Personally, I'd rather use coke.

Interesting, I know people that are addicted to coke and sometimes take adderall to satisfy the craving (help them quit...kinda).

[7-11]

I honestly don't think i've ever felt i've had to try so hard at school that i'd need this stuff, but than again i go through school with the philosophy that p's get degrees (although i understand your school system works a bit different). But if i did, i guess i'd take it, i'm not against cheating and i've put worse things in my body.

[Twiddler]

I think the real question here is.....

http://newsbusters.org/static/2007/06/2007-06-26TomCruise.jpg

What Would Tom Do?



And no, I do not use them. I don't have any illnesses affecting my ability to concentrate and while sometimes concentrating isn't easy, I just think about the thousands of dollars that its costing me to be here and I'm good. Really thats all it takes.

[cunningham06]

Comparing adderall to coffee is like comparing steroids to a multi vitamin...one is relatively safe and available to everyone, with mild effects and doesn't really help you much. Adderall does a lot more than help you stay awake. The other is a prescription drug that is not available to most and requires you to break the law. It has lots of adverse effects and does a lot of work for you.



Interesting, I know people that are addicted to coke and sometimes take adderall to satisfy the craving (help them quit...kinda).

I'm not saying they are similar, but if you consider adderall cheating then coffee belongs in the same group. Caffeine is a stimulant and aids concentration and alertness, and is also addictive. The steroids comparison doesn't work with adderall because like yourfave said adderall doesn't make you smarter like steroids make you stronger. Adderall aids concentration, which leads you then to become smarter by learning. If you want to compare it to some sort of supplement then compare it to creatine.

Eh the laws are too black and white for society to function under them without breaking a few. Borrowing a friends adderall I'd say is about the same in moral wrongness as underage drinking.

[Brent]

It can make you focus more than you usually do. It's a huge problem in colleges. I know it is here. Personally, I prefer to use caffeine. Adderall is overrated if you ask me. As for use to help those with ADD, my friend uses it because his ADD is pretty bad and it allows him to study normally.