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DiG
02-13-2008, 09:37 AM
as you will notice i only really did the FA's that i thought were bigger impact players on the draft. theres obviously still lots of other FA's out there and if a big name FA isnt listed its because i think hes either being franchised or resigning. i didnt post comments on the draft because its already a long read but im more than willing to comment on any questions you may have. i also only did trades in the draft involving moving up or down in the first round. so dont comment saying id rather trade down with your 2nd or 3rd rounder.

FREE AGENCY

Trent Green,QB - St. Louis Rams
Daunte Culpepper, QB - Buffalo Bills
Michael Turner, RB - Cleveland Browns
Julius Jones, RB - Indiannapolis Colts
Bernard Berrian, WR - Philadelphia Eagles
Bryant Johnson, WR - Jacksonville Jaguars
Devery Henderson, WR - Kansas City Chiefs
DJ Hackett, WR - Cincinnatti Bengals
Marty Booker, WR - Oakland Raiders
Alan Faneca, G - Tennesee Titans
Rex Hadnot, G - Washington Redskins
Max Starks, T - Minnesota Vikings
Ryan Lilja, G - Dallas Cowboys
Mike Wahle, G - Denver Broncos
Justin Smiley, OG - Pittsburgh Steelres
Corey Williams, DT - Miami Dolphins
Tommy Kelly, DT - San Fransisco 49ers
Antwan Odom, DE - New Orleans Saints
Justin Smith, DE - Philadelphia Eagles
Lance Briggs, LB - San Diego Chargers
Dan Morgan, LB - New England Patriots
Asante Samuel, CB - Arizona Cardinals
Marcus Trufant, CB - Buffalo Bills
Madeau Williams, S - Carolina Panthers

DRAFT TRADES

Cowboys trade Bobby Carpenter and picks 22, 28, and 62 for pick 1
Bengals trade the 9th and 47th picks to the Falcons for the 4th pick
Bears trade the 14th and 45th picks to the Patriots for the 7th pick
Dolphins trade the 33rd pick to the Lions for Roy Williams
Bengals trade chad johnson to the redskins for the 52nd overall pick, marcus washington, and a conditional 2009 draft selection

DRAFT

ROUND 1

1 cowboys via trade - darren mcfadden, rb, ark
2 rams - chris long, de, uva
3 raiders - glenn dorsey, dt, lsu
4 bengals via trade - sedrick ellis, dt, usc
5 chiefs - jake long, ot, michigan
6 jets - vernon gholston, de/olb, osu
7 bears via trade - matt ryan, qb, boston college
8 ravens - michael jenkins, cb, usf
9 falcons via trade - jonathan stewart, rb, oregon
10 saints - leodis mckelvin, cb, troy
11 bills - keith rivers, olb, usc
12 broncos - kenny phillips, s, miami
13 panthers - brian brohm, qb, louisville
14 patriots via trade - derrick harvey, de/olb, florida
15 lions - ryan clady, ot, boise state
16 cardinals - kentwan balmer, dt, unc
17 vikings - desean jackson, wr, cal
18 texans - rashard mendenhall, illinois
19 eagles - dominique rodgers cromartie, cb, tenn state
20 bucs - malcolm kelly, wr, oklahoma
21 redskins - calais campbell, de, miami
22 dolphins via trade - jeff otah, ot, pitt
23 pittsburg steelers - chris williams, ot, vander
24 titans - limas sweed, wr, texas
25 seahawks - aqib talib, cb, kansas
26 jags - phillip merling, de, clemson
27 chargers - reggie smith, s, oklahoma
28 dolphins via trade - chad henne, qb, michigan
29 niners via colts - gosder cherlius, ot, boston college
30 packers - patrick lee, cb, auburn
31 pats FORFEITED
32 giants - dan conner, lb, penn state

ROUND 2

33 lions via trade - charles godfrey, cb, iowa
34 rams - brandon albert, og, uva
35 chiefs - felix jones, rb, ark
36 falcons - sam baker, ot, usc
37 jets - pat sims, dt, auburn
38 raiders - mario manningham, wr, michigan
39 ravens - dre moore, dt/de, md
40 niners - shawn crable, olb, michigan
41 saints - phillip wheeler, lb, georgia tech
42 bills - james hardy, wr, indiana
43 broncos - anthony collins, ot, kansas
44 panthers - curtis lofton, mlb, oklahoma
45 patriots via bears - brandon flowers, cb, virginia tech
46 lions - fred davis, te, usc
47 falcons via bengals - joe flacco, qb, del st
48 vikings - martellus bennett, te, texas a & m
49 falcons via houston - trevor laws, dt, notre dame
50 eagles - erin henderson, lb, umd
51 cardinals - quinten groves, de/olb, auburn
52 bengals via redskins - chris ellis, de, virginia tech
53 bucs - tracy porter, cb, indiana
54 steelers - jerod mayo, mlb, tenn
55 titans - antoine cason, cb, arizona
56 seahawks - chris johnson, rb, east carolina
57 browns - ahtyba rubin, nt, iowa state
58 dolphins via chargers - chilo rachel, og, usc
59 jags - carl knicks, ot, nebraska
60 colts - ali highsmith, olb, lsu
61 packers - tavares gooden, olb, miami
62 dolphins via cowboys - johnathan goff, mlb, vander
63 patriots - jamaal charles, rb, texas
64 giants - dajuan morgan, s, nc state

ROUND 3

65 dolphins - justin king, cb, penn state
66 rams - xaviar adibi, olb, virginia tech
67 falcons - terrell thomas, cb, usc
68 jets - oneil cousins, ot, utep
69 patriots (from raiders) - heath benedict, og/ot, newberry
70 chiefs - marcus harrison, dt, arkansas
71 niners - andre woodson, qb, kentucky
72 bills (from ravens) - red bryant, dt, texas a & m
73 bills - jon carlson, te, notre dame
74 vikings (from broncos) - jason jones, de, eastern mich
75 panthers - roy schuening, og, oregon st
76 bears - early doucet, wr, lsu
77 lions - matt forte, rb, tulane
78 bengals - andre caldwell, wr, florida
79 saints - demario pressley, dt, nc state
80 texans - thomas decoud, s, cal
81 eagles - john david booty, qb, usc
82 cardinals - steve slaton, rb, wvu
83 vikings - ezra butler, nevada
84 buccaneers - josh johnson, qb, san diego
85 redskins - chevis jackson, cb, lsu
86 titans - martin rucker, te, missouri
87 seahawks - mike mcglynn, ot/og
88 browns - darrell robertson, olb/de, georgia tech
89 steelers - devin thomas, wr, mich state
90 jaguars - lavelle hawkins, wr, cal
91 bears (from chargers) - tony hills, ot, texas
92 packers - chad rinehart, og/ot, northern iowa
93 cowboys - trae williams, cb, usf
94 colts - andre fluellen, dt, florida state
95 patriots - earl bennett, wr, vander
96 giants - dwight lowery, cb, san jose state

Thunder&Lightning
02-13-2008, 09:39 AM
nice SD pick smith ideal fit. And FA couldnt be happier. +rep

Sniper
02-13-2008, 09:40 AM
Birds won't take a QB in the first day after spending a 2nd rounder on Kolb last year.

chug o nomics
02-13-2008, 09:40 AM
If the Vikes are planning on spending a first on a skinny WR that has a huge chance of being a bust, I'd rather trade it away for Roy Williams and a late rounder.

DiG
02-13-2008, 09:43 AM
If the Vikes are planning on spending a first on a skinny WR that has a huge chance of being a bust, I'd rather trade it away for Roy Williams and a late rounder.

i thought about roy trade for minne but i dont see the lions trading him in conference.

doingthisinsteadofwork
02-13-2008, 09:46 AM
1st pick for Oakland is good.
2nd pick is bad.

DraftNik88
02-13-2008, 09:56 AM
interesting bucs mock. But we usually take CB in later rounds

fenikz
02-13-2008, 09:59 AM
Cardinals are set at DT, we have great depth and talent there, Dockett, Watson, Brach, Smith, Tafoya, no way we waste a 1st on it. Give us Mendenhall there

Good pick in the 2nd

Steve Slaton is a J.J. Arrington clone, we have no need for him and should probably look for someone to replace Arrington so we can cut him, Choice or Forte would be much better options, or if we take a RB in the 1st give us Devin Thomas, great value there and he can take over for Bryant Johnson

Jakey
02-13-2008, 09:59 AM
Great Steelers draft...or greatest Steelers draft??? A+

Matthew Jones
02-13-2008, 10:17 AM
Ehh...not a huge fan of the Patriots draft. I don't think Derrick Harvey is a good pick, as Vrabel and Thomas are MUCH better suited outside. Would prefer someone like possibly a Jeff Otah, Aqib Talib there. Otah is a good fit because Nick Kaczur is an average RT and Otah might be better at RT than left. Talib is a good pick because he's a zone corner who supports the run unlike Rodgers-Cromartie, and we lose Samuel in your free agency.

Flowers is a good pick considering. Otah in the first and Flowers in the second would be nice value. However, Antoine Cason is higher rated for me and better in zone coverage, so I'd prefer him. Jamaal Charles is a decent pick - good value. Heath Benedict is good as well, but I like Tony Hills better personally, and that might just be me. Earl Bennett is a good value.

DiG
02-13-2008, 10:19 AM
Cardinals are set at DT, we have great depth and talent there, Dockett, Watson, Brach, Smith, Tafoya, no way we waste a 1st on it. Give us Mendenhall there

Good pick in the 2nd

Steve Slaton is a J.J. Arrington clone, we have no need for him and should probably look for someone to replace Arrington so we can cut him, Choice or Forte would be much better options, or if we take a RB in the 1st give us Devin Thomas, great value there and he can take over for Bryant Johnson

I was thinking of Balmer more as a DE for you guys. i think youll see him weigh in at the combine around 290. he has the speed, athleticism, and explosiveness to play on the outside and if he cut down to 285 i think he could be a monster.

the slaton and jj comparison makes sense. ill keep that in mind though i dont put much stock in arrington anyway.

DiG
02-13-2008, 10:24 AM
Ehh...not a huge fan of the Patriots draft. I don't think Derrick Harvey is a good pick, as Vrabel and Thomas are MUCH better suited outside. Would prefer someone like possibly a Jeff Otah, Aqib Talib there. Otah is a good fit because Nick Kaczur is an average RT and Otah might be better at RT than left. Talib is a good pick because he's a zone corner who supports the run unlike Rodgers-Cromartie, and we lose Samuel in your free agency.

Flowers is a good pick considering. Otah in the first and Flowers in the second would be nice value. However, Antoine Cason is higher rated for me and better in zone coverage, so I'd prefer him. Jamaal Charles is a decent pick - good value. Heath Benedict is good as well, but I like Tony Hills better personally, and that might just be me. Earl Bennett is a good value.

i agree that vrabel and thomas are both suited better outside but i went with harvey because i feel like you guys have to start looking at the future at some point. vrabel will be 33 next year and thomas 31. vrabel will perform much better when he is fresh so i think a rotation would be great for him and in a couple years when he retires you have a guy in harvey to step in a full time role. with the depth at corner in the draft and the top 2 off the board i think harveys playmaking ability and potential gives him the nod as well.

i was torn between cason and flowers. i went with flowers simply because i thought you needed a more physical corner.

princefielder28
02-13-2008, 10:38 AM
nice job with green bay

Mr. Myogi
02-13-2008, 11:04 AM
Great trade and 1st pick for the Birds!
I have a problem with a couple of the later picks though:
1...J. Stewart - Great
2...S. Baker - OL (a need) Good
2...J. Flacco - QB (Not as much a need as everyone thinks, But with Woodson still on the board? I don't think so.) Not so Good
2...T. Laws - DT (Good player, but not a need. Rather have Mayo MLB here.)
3...T. Thomas - CB ( Early Doucet is still on the board at this point?) F

All in all, your FALCONS mock is Just OK. I'm not excited about preseason off this draft.

Jay
02-13-2008, 11:10 AM
14 patriots via trade - derrick harvey, de/olb, florida
45 patriots via bears - brandon flowers, cb, virginia tech
63 patriots - jamaal charles, rb, texas
69 patriots (from raiders) - heath benedict, og/ot, newberry
95 patriots - earl bennett, wr, vander


I am a little confused as to why the Patriots would focus so much early attention on the offense, especially RB/WR and OL. I just don't see it going down this way.

thebow305
02-13-2008, 11:35 AM
I LOVE the trades we made there. Chad Henne in the first is terrible though. He is no where near a first round talent right now, we may pick him or Flacco in the second around the Chargers pick, but that's probably the earliest we select a QB. I would rather take James Hardy, Quentin Groves, or possibly even Antoine Cason there instead. I like the Otah and King picks, although I would rather take King at the end of the 2nd, then take either John Carlson or Marcus Harrison in the 3rd and get an OG later in the 4th or something like that.

hugegmenfan
02-13-2008, 11:37 AM
great 2nd rounder for the giants, but the other 2 are just ok

DiG
02-13-2008, 12:08 PM
2...J. Flacco - QB (Not as much a need as everyone thinks, But with Woodson still on the board? I don't think so.) Not so Good
2...T. Laws - DT (Good player, but not a need. Rather have Mayo MLB here.)
3...T. Thomas - CB ( Early Doucet is still on the board at this point?) F


im pretty down on woodson. always have been. i think flacco has a stronger arm, better accuracy, and better technique. and im not sure how you can say its not as big a need as people think. harrington shouldnt be on an nfl roster and leftwich can't stay healthy and when he was he looked terrible.

as for doucet i actually had you guys taking him then switched it because roddy white was phenomenal this year, jenkins was surprisingly improved, and you guys just drafted robinson last year who i am a BIG fan of.

DiG
02-13-2008, 12:10 PM
I am a little confused as to why the Patriots would focus so much early attention on the offense, especially RB/WR and OL. I just don't see it going down this way.

whatchu talkin about willis? the first two picks are defense and you got defense in fa.

k0ng
02-13-2008, 12:20 PM
Horrible Bears FA and draft. You have us losing our top FAs, then not signing any and trading our draft picks away. Brillant.

fenikz
02-13-2008, 12:32 PM
I was thinking of Balmer more as a DE for you guys. i think youll see him weigh in at the combine around 290. he has the speed, athleticism, and explosiveness to play on the outside and if he cut down to 285 i think he could be a monster.

the slaton and jj comparison makes sense. ill keep that in mind though i dont put much stock in arrington anyway.

Well as for a 4-3 DE we need a good pass rusher, because right now we can't get pressure on the QB without blitzing, Balmer would more than likely be a LDE which is already occupied by Antonio Smith is is a emerging beast(#2 in sacks for all 3-4 DE's, behind only Dockett)

pickles
02-13-2008, 12:36 PM
Love the FA aquisition by the 49ers and the 1st round is very good, Crable might be a bit high to take there, would prefer Groves, but decent pick none the less, 3rd round, from what I hear is that the 49ers weren't impressed at all with Woodson so I doubt they would take him at all, Red Bryant or Devin Thomas would be my choice in the 3rd.

Vikes99ej
02-13-2008, 01:03 PM
Good picks in the first two rounds. I don't know much about Jason Jones, and we don't really need Ezra Butler.

Mr. Myogi
02-13-2008, 01:15 PM
im pretty down on woodson. always have been. i think flacco has a stronger arm, better accuracy, and better technique. and im not sure how you can say its not as big a need as people think. harrington shouldnt be on an nfl roster and leftwich can't stay healthy and when he was he looked terrible.

as for doucet i actually had you guys taking him then switched it because roddy white was phenomenal this year, jenkins was surprisingly improved, and you guys just drafted robinson last year who i am a BIG fan of.

I agree with you 100% about Harrington, but with Leftwich I have to be a little more supportive. Leftwich had a very short rope. If he was given the same amount of playing time as Harrington his numbers would have been much better and probably could have gotten his timing down with the players (see REDMAN). Not saying that he's the savior but he would be a better backup than any rookie. Saying that: REDMAN/SHOCKLEY/LEFTWICH should be a good enough QB unit to warrant a run first - pound it down your throat Offense. YA THINK?

For WRs, Jenkins actually had a terrible year. After Roddy and Robinson all we have is Horn, Jenkins and the short guy (who couldn't catch a cold in a snow storm in Alaska in the middle of December butt naked and Ice diving).

Xiomera
02-13-2008, 01:19 PM
You have Detroit taking 3 offensive players in the first 3 rounds, when in reality, the Lions are most likely going to draft 3 defensive players.

Any Lions mock without a CB in the first 3 rounds is automatically unrealistic and terrible.

DiG
02-13-2008, 01:33 PM
You have Detroit taking 3 offensive players in the first 3 rounds, when in reality, the Lions are most likely going to draft 3 defensive players.

Any Lions mock without a CB in the first 3 rounds is automatically unrealistic and terrible.

but i have you guys taking godfrey at pick 33...

Addict
02-13-2008, 01:38 PM
D- Lions draft and FA.

Seriously, the trade is the ONLY thing that makes sense and I hardly think the Phins will make a move for Williams, more likely it will be the Cowboys or Niners. Oh and the cornerback pick at the top of the second, although a bit of a reach I think, does work. Saves you the Z- rating.

Then you have us take a O-Lineman while our OC stated that he considers getting a NEW RB starter as the main priority on offense, you continue to give us a TE which is a luxury we can't really afford right now and then to top it all off you hand us a running back who won't be a starter, which is, as I stated earlier, what our OC wants.

Meanwhile, we're still stuck with hardly anyone talented at two linebacker positions (Ernie Sims is lonely), no pass rush.

As I started off with: horrible, absolutely terrible.

evans555
02-13-2008, 01:43 PM
Great Bills picks

TaylorMade
02-13-2008, 01:58 PM
what happened to Lawrence Jackson? dont see him anywhere. also who is gonna play SLB for the skins? i dont think the bengals would accept that trade anyways since marcus washingtons trade value probably isnt much.

stl9erfan
02-13-2008, 02:05 PM
Love the Cherilus pick for the Niners, but not a big fan of rounds 2 or 3. Somewhere in there SF has to get a WR, especially since you don't have us signing one in FA. Crable, who would back up Manny Lawson, and Woodson, who would be a third stringer this year, are both more luxury picks on a team that can't afford to make them. I'd replace Crable with Hardy in round 2, or take Quentin Groves in the 2nd and Early Doucet in the 3rd instead.

DiG
02-13-2008, 02:49 PM
what happened to Lawrence Jackson? dont see him anywhere. also who is gonna play SLB for the skins? i dont think the bengals would accept that trade anyways since marcus washingtons trade value probably isnt much.

ah damn forgot jackson. thanks for the comments guys. some of the constructive stuff will help my next version.

defensiveback23
02-13-2008, 02:57 PM
Great pick for the Chargers. The Chargers don't go after big name free agents, but I'm not complaining about Briggs!

heavyduty
02-13-2008, 02:58 PM
i don't see us grabbing culpepper but other then that i loveeeeeeee it, especially the trufant signing

Bills2083
02-13-2008, 03:02 PM
Perfect offseason for the Bills.
We get...
-Marcus Trufant
-Keith Rivers
-James Hardy
-Red Bryant
-John Carlson.

I would be ecstatic if this were to happen. +rep for you

NEtimehester
02-13-2008, 11:12 PM
Since I am a bears fan.... I do not like it. You have the bears doing nothing in free agency. You also have us picking a rookie quarter back to throw behind our terrible offensive line in its current status. Not likely.

ABWA757
02-14-2008, 06:46 AM
Great bills mock ofseason

Don Killuminati
02-14-2008, 07:03 AM
1st pick for Oakland is good.
2nd pick is bad.

What he said.

We're trying to get the headcases off the team, not collect more.

21ST
02-14-2008, 07:48 AM
Any way we end up with 85 is good

proshoota25
02-17-2008, 01:20 AM
love the pats draft, but i dont think theyd be picked by BB. i could see harvey, cuz of ties with meyer and BB, but i dont think theyd go that route

vidae
02-17-2008, 02:03 AM
I'll be honest, I love the first Chiefs pick but the second really confuses me. RB is not a need. We have a premiere back in LJ and a kid who looks like he can be something good in Kolby Smith.

I would have rather seen us do something with round three as well, but you gave us Jake Long so I can't be too upset.

ChosenOne
02-17-2008, 02:32 AM
- Don't think that the Bears would trade up too take Matt Ryan when they might be able to get him at pick 14.

- Carolina has spent too much money on quarterbacks already to take one in the first round. Their front office and coaching staff are all very high on Matt Moore. The Panthers have other needs that need to be addressed with that pick.

- Dunno why, but I can't see the Falcons taking a running back like Jonathan Stewart. I think if they were to take a back with that pick, it'd be Mendenhall.

- Eagles could use either Malcolm Kelly or Calais Cammpbell much more than they could Cromartie.

- I think that the Titans would rather have Mario Manningham than Sweed, and that you just put him to Tennessee because of the whole Texas and Vince Young thing.

- Seahawks don't have much need for a first round cornerback. Give them Felix Jones instead.

- 49ers could use a wide receiver much more than they could an offensive lineman.

- Patrick Lee in the first round? Kind of hard to imagine...

Steelers Draft:

1st Round: Safe and good choice.

2nd Round: Terrible pick. Give us Chilo Rachal.

3rd Round: I would absolutely love that pick. But Thomas won't last that long man.

d34ng3l021
02-17-2008, 02:48 AM
pretty jizzworthy falcons draft except terrell thomas. I like carlson better right there.

BaLLiN
02-17-2008, 07:57 AM
For the giants first pick I'd prefer Pat Sims (DT) or if we trade down Brandon Flowers, Antoine Cason, or Tracy Porter. I absolutely love the 2nd round pick DaJuan Morgan. 3rd round pick i think lowery is mid to late forth, but he's still an alright pick never the less.

BaLLiN
02-17-2008, 08:28 AM
Thats the exact same trade i had with Dallas and Miami, it values up, but I still dont think cowboys would give that much up.