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Rich Jr
02-17-2008, 05:46 PM
There's quite a bit of smoke coming from several LSU message boards indicating that QB Ryan Perrilloux has left the Tigers football team.

While I have to urge a HUGE grain of salt, the reports go something like this....

Due to an ongoing dispute between Perrilloux's mother and LSU -- potentially stemming from Ryan's mother trying to shake down the school -- the projected starting quarterback has cleaned out his locker and left the team. Perrilloux reportedly missed a team meeting this week, but his absence is clouded by reports that Perrilloux was attending his father's funeral.

The only aspect that does not seem to be in dispute is that Ryan Perrilloux has cleaned out his locker.

WDSU-TV in New Orleans is reporting the rumors that Perrilloux quit the team, but -- so far -- there's no comment from Perrilloux or the Tigers.

This could be exactly what the rumors say it is, or it could be a confused kid who just lost his father acting out.

Either way, I think we're nearing some kind of school record on off-the-field headlines.


UPDATE

I'm hearing a little more backstory now (which is starting to make this rumor seem more credible, but -- again -- I cannot confirm just yet because no one will comment officially)...

Apparently Perrilloux and the coaching staff have an understanding about certain things that QB must do to stay in LSU's good graces. This all stems from his previous track record. Allegedly broke this agreement 2-3 times in the last two weeks and was threatened with suspension or outright suspended from the team. It is believed that one of the issues was class attendance, missing a team appointment and the other was related to him going somewhere he wasn't supposed to be. So... the coaches met with Perrilloux and the suspension talk came up. This conversation apparently led to Perrilloux's mother threatening to pull the QB off the team. Very shortly thereafter, Perrilloux's father left passed away and the QB has not been with the team on campus since then.


That's the update. Still looking for some confirmations, although I understand that everyone at LSU is hesitant to say anything about the situation given the emotions of all involved as well as Perrilloux history of brush-ups with the coaching staff. There may not be an officially comment until Les Miles decides what that comment will be.

http://www.fanblogs.com/lsu/007501.php

Tampa 2 4 life
02-17-2008, 05:50 PM
Man...Horrible news for LSU. They'll be scrambling for a QB next year if they can't get a transfer.

neko4
02-17-2008, 05:50 PM
wow Perriloux leaves, who takes over?

Rich Jr
02-17-2008, 05:54 PM
Well we have 2 options. Andrew Hatch who's Crowton's golden boy. Knows the system and invited him to transfer and earned a scholarship.

The other is 4* RS Freshman Jarrett Lee. He's going to be special but may not be ready.

Brent
02-17-2008, 05:55 PM
14 Andrew Hatch QB 6-3 214
12 Jarrett Lee QB 6-2 211
17 T.C. McCartney QB 6-3 202
13 Jimmy Welker QB 6-3 229

These are the other QB's I see on the ESPN roster but I have no idea about who they are.

Billingsley26
02-17-2008, 05:58 PM
Oh boy. Come up to PSU where you can run with it for us.

SEriously though, thats rough news. losing such a talent like that. In a way I hope its not true, but darn, tough stuff.

Rich Jr
02-17-2008, 06:00 PM
Dude never had any sort of restrictions in his life. He's never had to follow rules. He's been allowed to do what he's wanted. That's why he was going to UT when Saban was here. Saban was a hard ass. Now Miles is cracking down and he ain't down with the rules. He's a tremendous talent but i'm tired of the BS. It's not hard, follow the rules or get out.

neko4
02-17-2008, 06:01 PM
Also kind of breaks up a line of good QB's
Josh Booty
Rohan Davey
Matt Mauck
Jamarcus Russell
Matt Flynn
?

etk
02-17-2008, 06:01 PM
So much talent, but what a headcase. LSU will get used to this kind of thing with PJ on board though.

Rich Jr
02-17-2008, 06:04 PM
So much talent, but what a headcase. LSU will get used to this kind of thing with PJ on board though.Please PJ played the recruiting game. RP is just a head case. You can't even compare the 2.

Rich Jr
02-17-2008, 06:05 PM
Also kind of breaks up a line of good QB's
Josh Booty
Rohan Davey
Matt Mauck
Jamarcus Russell
Matt Flynn
?

Good QB's and Josh Booty should never be in the same sentence/post ever.

etk
02-17-2008, 06:06 PM
Please PJ played the recruiting game. RP is just a head case. You can't even compare the 2.

No, PJ is a headcase, but I was joking/trolling with that last comment. They`re probably not comparable though, you`re right.

Rich Jr
02-17-2008, 06:07 PM
No, PJ is a headcase, but I was joking/trolling with that last comment. They`re probably not comparable though, you`re right.If they are then 2 different head cases. RP was more behavioral issues.

neko4
02-17-2008, 06:08 PM
Good QB's and Josh Booty should never be in the same sentence/post ever.
haha, well drafted QB's, Matt Flynn hasnt been drafted but i think he could be a 6th or 7th

Josh Booty 6th Round
Rohan Davey 4th Round
Matt Mauck 7th Round
Jamarcus Russell 1st Round
Matt Flynn

etk
02-17-2008, 06:09 PM
If they are then 2 different head cases. RP was more behavioral issues.

I was thinking more along the lines of lacking a brain (RP). The things he said about Vince Young and JaMarcus Russell coming out of HS were laughable.

Rich Jr
02-17-2008, 06:11 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of lacking a brain (RP). The things he said about Vince Young and JaMarcus Russell coming out of HS were laughable.

I forgot about VY what did he say? Also I think he said something about being better than JR and Flynn coming out of HS that **** was laughable.

WMD
02-17-2008, 06:20 PM
I am a fan of Mr. Perrilloux.. But man.. He's had a lot of drama going on. He needs to get his business straightened out.

oregonbucfan
02-17-2008, 06:21 PM
shouldnt have been dishonest to Darron Thomas


Im glad this happened to Les Miles

Rich Jr
02-17-2008, 06:25 PM
shouldnt have been dishonest to Darron Thomas


Im glad this happened to Les MilesWTH are you talking about? How was Les even remotely dishonest with Thomas?

YAYareaRB
02-17-2008, 06:55 PM
Ol' Les is just making room for Terrell Pryor.. DUH!





















Hey I can hope can't I?

Brent
02-17-2008, 06:56 PM
I remember he snubbed UT because he didnt want to sit behind VY for a year... looks like he made a great choice... oh wait.

YAYareaRB
02-17-2008, 07:03 PM
I remember he snubbed UT because he didnt want to sit behind VY for a year... looks like he made a great choice... oh wait.

It woulda been the same ole story with UT. Think your the **** coming out of HS, sit behind possibly the greatest QB to every play at that school, win a national championship, think your the **** all over again. So much for his 4 heismans.

My take on it is, he's gonna end up between a rock and hard place. He needs to learn time and college football waits for no man. If he's doing these things because he thinks he's some sort of all star, he's gonna get left behind once LSU finds a responsible and reliable signal caller. Don't get me wrong, I would rather start the season with him in the lineup and his mouth shut for the rest of the year. But, we CAN'T let him hold us back because we're already going into the a season where the SEC could possibly be the most competitive as it's ever been.

TigerBait45
02-17-2008, 07:52 PM
This is an unsubstantiated rumor as of right now. There hasn't been confirmation from anywhere. Its a rumor.

The guys dad just died, it makes perfect sense that he isn't on campus. Everything I've been hearing since the off-season began is that the staff has been very happy with his progress as a player and as a person.

I can't call it BS just yet, but I'm really not putting much stock into it until I see it from a credible source (i.e. Perrilloux, Miles or a Baton Rouge news station)

..It would seriously suck if it were true, though.

Rich Jr
02-17-2008, 09:26 PM
Here's a link that sort of confirms it.. Miles will respond to the rumors tomorrow at a press conference.

http://media.www.lsureveille.com/media/storage/paper868/news/2008/02/15/Sports/Athletic.Department.Official.Miles.To.Likely.Answe r.Questions.Monday.About.Perri-3215145.shtml

LonghornsLegend
02-17-2008, 10:28 PM
Interesting, really cant comment until the press conference...sometimes thats what comes with elite talent, id take him in our spread over Colt all day but not if he isnt dedicated to being a leader on the team, thats what was so great about Vince.

Rich Jr
02-17-2008, 10:32 PM
The other rumors are that Miles is kicking him off the team.

neko4
02-17-2008, 10:35 PM
any top HS QBs that LSU might sign next year?

CARDIAC CAT 7
02-17-2008, 10:38 PM
:( , I hope Perrilloux gets his stuff together hes a gifted player. I heard Jarrett Lee is a pretty good QB, so I dont think they would be in that much trouble.

TigerBait45
02-17-2008, 10:44 PM
Lee is very talented, but obviously Perrilloux would be a better option if for no other reason than because he has way more experience in the system.

Press conference tomorrow. My money is that its about the Defensive coordinator position first a foremost, and that Miles will answer whatever gets thrown at him.

Rich Jr
02-17-2008, 11:48 PM
any top HS QBs that LSU might sign next year?
Jacob Karam 4* guy from Texas. His family is from Oak Dale Louisiana.

Russell Shepard, maybe. His g/f is a sophomore at LSU.

saintsfan912
02-18-2008, 12:01 AM
Well its obvious we don't NEED an elite QB to win, since last year we did win the NC with Flynn. We just need a damn game manager. Lee, from what people are saying, runs the offense better than Perriloux did last spring.

neko4
02-18-2008, 12:14 AM
Jacob Karam 4* guy from Texas. His family is from Oak Dale Louisiana.

Russell Shepard, maybe. His g/f is a sophomore at LSU.
haha, its funny that people know where a prospect's gf is going to college, but it does matter

soybean
02-18-2008, 02:34 AM
haha, its funny that people know where a prospect's gf is going to college, but it does matter

well in the SEC, they offer recruits' girlfriends a scholarship hoping they'll sign too.

LonghornsLegend
02-18-2008, 01:51 PM
well in the SEC, they offer recruits' girlfriends a scholarship hoping they'll sign too.

Ive seen schools like SMU offer scholarships to prospects brothers, family members, sometimes whatever they have to do...Im pretty sure alot of girlfriends get scholarships that way, although I wouldnt of wanted my girlfriend at my college anyway.

neko4
02-18-2008, 01:53 PM
yeah college is for starting

JPLUFF
02-18-2008, 04:11 PM
Can Perrilloux come to Michigan? Perhaps the NCAA won't make him sit out a year in the process?

saintsfan912
02-18-2008, 05:08 PM
So, if Perriloux does quit or get kicked off the team, do you guys think we are back in the Pryor mix? I'm sure that was a huge reason he dropped us, now if RP is gone he will definitely get to see the field quite a bit.

TigerBait45
02-18-2008, 05:47 PM
Suspended it is.

etk
02-18-2008, 05:51 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/02/18/lsu.perriloux.ap/index.html

Suspended indefinitely.

Turtlepower
02-18-2008, 05:56 PM
Come on, am I the only one who is not surprised by this? I really respect all of the college athletes who have their heads screwed on right because there are so many divas right now it is ridiculous.

TigerBait45
02-18-2008, 06:02 PM
I can't say it surprises me, especially with Perrilloux.

Tons of talent, very little common sense.

YAYareaRB
02-18-2008, 07:06 PM
C'mon Over Terrell Pryorrrr!!!!

LonghornsLegend
02-18-2008, 08:10 PM
Wow thats crazy, I was expecting a huge year for him finally unleashing the reigns with him at qb in that offense...He's starting to screw up his big payday now in the nfl, no one is going to trust him to lead an offense if he's acting like Chris Henry.


So does this mean he packs up and starts the transfer idea? Or does he go back to the same team when he gets his act together?

Mosich9
02-29-2008, 11:56 AM
perriloux is an idiot

neko4
03-27-2008, 05:14 PM
More Perrilloux news II:
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Aky.fbMW3bNH1Hd.3nxlpWUcvrYF?slug=ap-lsu-perrilloux&prov=ap&type=lgns

YAYareaRB
03-27-2008, 05:16 PM
OH YEAH! Mark it down.. CHAMPIONSHIIIP! haha

Turtlepower
03-27-2008, 05:20 PM
OH YEAH! Mark it down.. CHAMPIONSHIIIP! haha

7 wins for LSU. Mark it down!!!

KCJ58
03-27-2008, 05:25 PM
perriloux is an idiot

I'll second that

the_legend_killer
03-27-2008, 07:35 PM
Another chance? Good thing he's got that "SEC Speed".....

keylime_5
03-27-2008, 07:47 PM
Nothing new, Perrilloux suspended for like the 9th time but he'll be ready to play the whole season. yawn.

Hokie_Pokie08
04-02-2008, 01:52 AM
http://media.www.lsureveille.com/media/storage/paper868/news/2008/04/01/News/Perrilloux.Allegedly.Involved.In.Restaurant.Incide nt-3296912.shtml

perrilloux gets into trouble again right before he is about to be reinstated. les miles is whipped though so i see nothing happening based on this.

The server said LSU coach Les Miles called the restaurant Saturday to apologize for Perrilloux.

saintsfan912
04-02-2008, 08:16 AM
Key word in that article is ALLEGEDLY. I've been to that restaurant before, it sucks anyways haha. I seriously doubt he went there to try and order drinks when there are tons of bars open around that area. It has one of the worst drink selections in Baton Rouge. I think they just want attention for their restaurant, who knows.

YAYareaRB
04-02-2008, 10:49 AM
Can this guy just stay out of trouble. Jamarcus Russell didn't do stuff like this. Vince Young didn't do stuff like this.

Hokie_Pokie08
04-02-2008, 10:51 AM
Key word in that article is ALLEGEDLY. I've been to that restaurant before, it sucks anyways haha. I seriously doubt he went there to try and order drinks when there are tons of bars open around that area. It has one of the worst drink selections in Baton Rouge. I think they just want attention for their restaurant, who knows.

then why did the head coach call the employee to apologize for what his player did?

saintsfan912
04-02-2008, 05:57 PM
So you're gonna believe what a server says? Damn, you must be an easy guy to sell anything to.

YAYareaRB
04-02-2008, 07:37 PM
So you're gonna believe what a server says? Damn, you must be an easy guy to sell anything to.

Why would they just come up with a random story like this?

504 to ATL
04-02-2008, 09:11 PM
Honestly people are making this into much more of a problem than it really is.

RP has been in trouble twice, once for frankly being an idiot(the gambling fiasco) and once for missing practice without letting the authorities know.

The reason he is not practicing on the team is that he has not fulfilled obligations Miles set him(most likely grades), well thats the word from the LSU athletic department at least.

The new incident stinks, they can't even get the date straight. No one really knows what happened, so far at least.

saintsfan912
04-02-2008, 09:18 PM
Why would they just come up with a random story like this?

The same reason the bouncers at the Varsity made that **** up about him a few months ago. I talked to one of the bouncers from there I know a few weeks later and he told me RP had nothing to do with it. Service people are very jealous from what I've noticed. From the Varsity thing and now to this ****, its getting ridiculous.

Being from Baton Rouge and having been to the restaurant, there is no way RP would just walk into a Sushi place to get a drink. There are far better drinking establishments than that place around here. It's all heresay.

Hokie_Pokie08
04-02-2008, 11:57 PM
Honestly people are making this into much more of a problem than it really is.

RP has been in trouble twice, once for frankly being an idiot(the gambling fiasco) and once for missing practice without letting the authorities know.

The reason he is not practicing on the team is that he has not fulfilled obligations Miles set him(most likely grades), well thats the word from the LSU athletic department at least.

The new incident stinks, they can't even get the date straight. No one really knows what happened, so far at least.

twice?

the counterfeit $20 bills, the fake id at the casino boat, the fight outside the nightclub, skipping classes and team meetings, and cursing out and using racial slurs at a restaurant. yeah only 2 incidents, more like 5 strikes and still not out.

but can you blame miles since he just wants to win and doesn't care what type of message he is sending out?

YAYareaRB
04-03-2008, 01:27 AM
The same reason the bouncers at the Varsity made that **** up about him a few months ago. I talked to one of the bouncers from there I know a few weeks later and he told me RP had nothing to do with it. Service people are very jealous from what I've noticed. From the Varsity thing and now to this ****, its getting ridiculous.

Being from Baton Rouge and having been to the restaurant, there is no way RP would just walk into a Sushi place to get a drink. There are far better drinking establishments than that place around here. It's all heresay.

Wow we're so lucky to have someone who's been there and done that. While you're at it why don't you go pay a visit to the place he got the fake I.D. and ask him where he hangs out when he skips practices and team meetings. GIVE ME A BREAK! It's not like he's a saint being randomly blamed for this. He's done this type of **** before and it's getting old. The guy just needs to grow up and play football.

YAYareaRB
04-03-2008, 01:27 AM
but can you blame miles since he just wants to win and doesn't care what type of message he is sending out?

You sure do have a lot of room to talk being a Virginia Tech fan and all..

Hokie_Pokie08
04-03-2008, 01:30 AM
You sure do have a lot of room to talk being a Virginia Tech fan and all..

marcus got kicked out after strike 3. strike 5 and counting for perrilloux.

YAYareaRB
04-03-2008, 01:42 AM
marcus got kicked out after strike 3. strike 5 and counting for perrilloux.

What has been proven? The Fake ID incident, the restaurant incident and the skipping of team meetings and classes.

Fight at the Club: Unproven that Perrilloux had any part in that

Counterfeit Money: Never heard of this and OBVIOUSLY wasn't proved to be guilty.

Hokie_Pokie08
04-03-2008, 02:15 AM
What has been proven? The Fake ID incident, the restaurant incident and the skipping of team meetings and classes.

Fight at the Club: Unproven that Perrilloux had any part in that

Counterfeit Money: Never heard of this and OBVIOUSLY wasn't proved to be guilty.

because people always get suspended and left behind from traveling with the team when they have no involvement in an assault.

he was caught using counterfeit $20 bills near his hometown and was investigated by the fbi and local law enforcement for his involvement in a counterfeit ring.

not too mention the 3 warrants that were issued for him for traffic violations in a 4 month period in 2006.

hell perrilloux has been suspended 3 times in the past year. lucky for him he is the starting qb at lsu.

YAYareaRB
04-03-2008, 09:51 AM
because people always get suspended and left behind from traveling with the team when they have no involvement in an assault.

he was caught using counterfeit $20 bills near his hometown and was investigated by the fbi and local law enforcement for his involvement in a counterfeit ring.

not too mention the 3 warrants that were issued for him for traffic violations in a 4 month period in 2006.

hell perrilloux has been suspended 3 times in the past year. lucky for him he is the starting qb at lsu.

If I were to put a list out of Marcus Vick's priors, it would extend this thread by two pages..

He was caught using counterfeit bills. Was he in the counterfeit ring or was it in circulation with a store that doesn't check? We'll never know because he was investigated and no charges were brought.

saintsfan912
04-03-2008, 11:48 AM
That's a federal offense and they certainly wouldn't care if he was an LSU QB. If it was really true he would have gone to jail.

You obviously know nothing about the fake ID thing. He used his brother's ID, not some fake ID somebody made for him. It was a stupid mistake but alot more innocent than anything Marcus Vick did. It's a ******* misdemeanor.

The police were never involved in the restaurant incident so NOTHING was proven, once again. Nobody goes to a ******* japanese restaurant to go to the bar, it just doesn't happen.

So are you a EBRP cop or something? I've never seen any links for traffic violations. Got one to show the class or are you just making stuff up now?

Hokie_Pokie08
04-03-2008, 12:41 PM
That's a federal offense and they certainly wouldn't care if he was an LSU QB. If it was really true he would have gone to jail.

You obviously know nothing about the fake ID thing. He used his brother's ID, not some fake ID somebody made for him. It was a stupid mistake but alot more innocent than anything Marcus Vick did. It's a ******* misdemeanor.

The police were never involved in the restaurant incident so NOTHING was proven, once again. Nobody goes to a ******* japanese restaurant to go to the bar, it just doesn't happen.

So are you a EBRP cop or something? I've never seen any links for traffic violations. Got one to show the class or are you just making stuff up now?

http://tigersmack.com/2007/ryan-perrilloux-warrants#more-55

saintsfan912
04-03-2008, 12:58 PM
So when I click on the link nothing comes up. That's an impressive site no doubt. The last article written is from 4 months ago, nice. When you find something from a credible site, not some garbage **** like that, post it up.

Hokie_Pokie08
04-03-2008, 01:10 PM
So when I click on the link nothing comes up. That's an impressive site no doubt. The last article written is from 4 months ago, nice. When you find something from a credible site, not some garbage **** like that, post it up.

http://tigersmack.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/perrillouxwarrants.jpg

i said the warrants were from 2006 so what did you expect?

http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2007/01/10/bring-on-la-copa-del-fulmer-fulmer-cup-season-begins/all-comments/

YAYareaRB
04-03-2008, 08:50 PM
Since we're pointing fingers..

Marcus Vick

2004 - Providing Alcohol to minors. Reckless Driving. Possession of Marijuana.

2005 - Stomping on Elvis Dumervil although had an exceptional season. Driving on a suspended license. It says it makes NINE traffic arrest since he's been Virginia Tech. Within a couple days he was involved in another incident resulting in criminal charges. Caught a civil lawsuit in this time period as well.

2006 - Brandishing of a fire arm. Pointing it at teenagers in the McDonald's parking lot. Sex with a minor on two different occasions, once with a 17-year old and once with a 15-year old. The 15-year old claims that he often forced her into sex and to have sex with other men and women. Fraud.

Remember when you point the finger.. There's three pointing right back at you.

Hokie_Pokie08
04-03-2008, 10:11 PM
Since we're pointing fingers..

Marcus Vick

2004 - Providing Alcohol to minors. Reckless Driving. Possession of Marijuana.

2005 - Stomping on Elvis Dumervil although had an exceptional season. Driving on a suspended license. It says it makes NINE traffic arrest since he's been Virginia Tech. Within a couple days he was involved in another incident resulting in criminal charges. Caught a civil lawsuit in this time period as well.

2006 - Brandishing of a fire arm. Pointing it at teenagers in the McDonald's parking lot. Sex with a minor on two different occasions, once with a 17-year old and once with a 15-year old. The 15-year old claims that he often forced her into sex and to have sex with other men and women. Fraud.

Remember when you point the finger.. There's three pointing right back at you.

need to get your facts right. the 3 teens that accused vick of brandishing the firearm were arrested a week after they accused him for armed robbery and admitted they were just trying to get money out of the vicks.

TigerBait45
04-03-2008, 10:46 PM
Perrilloux is more trouble than hes worth. I don't care if hes the only proven QB on the team.

Hes horrible for the locker room and team chemistry.

Although in this case I think its getting a little overblown. People should be talking about how stupid Shomarri Clemons is instead.

YAYareaRB
04-03-2008, 11:22 PM
need to get your facts right. the 3 teens that accused vick of brandishing the firearm were arrested a week after they accused him for armed robbery and admitted they were just trying to get money out of the vicks.

and of the other 17 incidents?

Hokie_Pokie08
04-03-2008, 11:55 PM
and of the other 17 incidents?

i had heard of only a couple traffic incidents and the girls that said they were radford students incident. if you know of more traffic incidents then please link them because that would be news to me.

YAYareaRB
04-03-2008, 11:58 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/06/AR2006010601017.html

In September 2004, Vick pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor for giving alcohol to underage girls. In July 2004, Vick was arrested for speeding, and police found marijuana in his car. He pleaded guilty to reckless driving and no contest to possession of marijuana. He was stopped at least seven times for various traffic offenses from July 2002 through Dec. 17, including five speeding offenses and two citations for driving on a suspended or revoked license.

Hokie_Pokie08
04-04-2008, 12:14 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/06/AR2006010601017.html

damn both are screw ups. though of all things i would mind less that he is speeding and driving on a suspended license even though that many is completely unacceptable (1 or 2 speeding tickets maybe). get someone else to drive you around damn.

504 to ATL
04-04-2008, 11:56 AM
Clemons is an idiot that is certain. He was going to be slated as a number 2 at either LB or Safety, and could even be starting next season.

Skipping practice and school after the death of your father, geez buddy that sure is something worth getting kicked off the team for.

saintsfan912
04-04-2008, 12:12 PM
Yea, most people don't know the reason he missed was because his dad died. He just didn't tell anybody. But hey everybody, lets jump to conclusions. Its the intelligent thing to do.

Hokie_Pokie08
04-04-2008, 06:39 PM
Yea, most people don't know the reason he missed was because his dad died. He just didn't tell anybody. But hey everybody, lets jump to conclusions. Its the intelligent thing to do.

i don't mean to sound callous, but did he grow up with his biological father? no and he really hasn't had a relationship with the man since he was 7 years old. it would be one thing if this was the first time he ever acted out in his college career, but it's been a reoccurring theme.

saintsfan912
04-04-2008, 07:38 PM
Do you know if he had a relationship with him? Who gives a **** if he grew up with him or not? If it weren't for that man he would have never been born, get a life dude.

Hokie_Pokie08
04-05-2008, 11:49 AM
Do you know if he had a relationship with him? Who gives a **** if he grew up with him or not? If it weren't for that man he would have never been born, get a life dude.

if my dad were to die i wouldn't go to his funeral. i haven't seen him since i was 4. i guess it is just something you have to live through to know about.