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NGSeiler
02-21-2008, 10:48 AM
Unrestricted Free Agents
OG Milford Brown
C Andy McCollum
SLB Raonall Smith
TE Aaron Walker

Restricted Free Agents
S Oshiomongho Atogwe - First Round Tender (2/27 (http://io.stlouisrams.com/article/67091/))
DE Trevor Johnson - Untendered (2/28 (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/7B34B8C842E2EA28862573FD006F7DF2?OpenDocument))

Signed/Resigned Players
-2/12/08: Signed K Justin Medlock (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/04469946DC82DCF1862573ED00180A2C?OpenDocument) (Chiefs)
-2/20/08: Resigned RB Travis Minor (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/7DC289C16AD1945E862573F50055FC61?OpenDocument)
-2/29/08: Signed K Josh Brown (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/BE9430A652FABEFD862573FE0061BBF1?OpenDocument) (Seahawks)
-3/3/08: Signed LG Jacob Bell (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/9169814254FD3A19862574020003A890?OpenDocument) (Titans)
-3/6/08: Signed TE Anthony Becht (http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/67158/) (Buccaneers)
-3/6/08: Resigned OL Adam Goldberg (http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/67158/)
-3/7/08: Resigned OL Brandon Gorin (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3281879&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
-3/10/08: Signed QB Trent Green (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7896382/Green-agrees-to-deal-with-Rams?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5) (Dolphins)
-3/12/08: Resigned S Jerome Carter (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/7DA8A08BCB3E067D8625740A0066964D?OpenDocument)
-3/21/08: Signed CB David Macklin (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/4C459BB9145DE19F86257412005A8102?OpenDocument) (Redskins)
-3/21/08: Resigned C Brett Romberg (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/798931FA4544E62B8625741300151DD3?OpenDocument)

Released Players
-2/28/08: Released QB Gus Frerotte (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvS6d2BByzR4o7tagbX2HYxDubYF?slug=ms-frerotte022708&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
-2/28/08: Released WR Isaac Bruce (http://www.stlouisrams.com/article/67098/)
-2/29/08: Released DE James Hall (http://io.stlouisrams.com/article/67106)

nfrillman
02-25-2008, 07:18 PM
Well, I guess I will be the first person to respond in this thread. The only guys I would really like to see come back from that group are Chillar, Atogwe, and Romberg I guess. Atgowe is the only of those guys I would consider a major loss though.

freebirdsrams02
02-25-2008, 10:23 PM
I was reading in the new sporting news that the Rams are going to be slow when bringing in new Free Agents, but they are targeting Alen Faneca OG. He is one of the best interior lineman in the game and that would give us a big road grader to follow up front.

NGSeiler
02-26-2008, 03:05 PM
They won't get a shot at Faneca unless they work a cap miracle. Looks like they're only about $7 million under the cap and will likely need at least $5 million for the rookie pool. Atogwe's tender will take up space so hopefully they can get another deal worked out. Rams fans need to prepare themselves for a conservative free agency.

nfrillman
02-26-2008, 08:25 PM
The Rams don't have much wiggle room with the cap. I really don't expect them to land the best FA at any position. They will most likely target depth. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Rams don't get any starters from FA. They are basically in cap hell this season. These are the main culprits (questionably high cap hits):

Orlando Pace- 8.2 million cap hit......should try to force restructure due to season ending injuries in two consecutive games, if he won't then they should consider releasing him
Isaac Bruce- 5.333 million cap hit.....fan fav, he must stay
Leonard Little- 10.033 million cap hit.............I would personally consider forcing a restructure or releasing him
La'Roi Glover- 4.5 million hit.....played well, but high price for a guy who ideally won't be starting
Corey Chavous- 3.8 million cap hit..........he is atrocious, paying him anything seems like a rip
Marshall Faulk and Jermetrius Butler are still getting checks from the Rams as well, a combined 3.36 million

Plus the Rams had better get to work on signing Jackson long term, his contract is up after next year. So yeah, I don't expect a lot of action from the Rams in FA unless they cut some guys, particularly the big hits of Pace or Little.

freebirdsrams02
02-26-2008, 10:39 PM
Glover and Chavous should be released, both are on their way out anyways. If the Rams could restructure some of the others then we should have a descent FA.

NGSeiler
02-27-2008, 11:44 PM
Atogwe has been given the first round tender offer as a restricted free agent. First post edited to reflect that.

Yahoo Sports is also reporting the Rams will release QB Gus Frerotte.

freebirdsrams02
02-28-2008, 09:12 PM
Bruce and Frerotte are gone and the Rams are now 17 million under the cap. They might be able to make a move here or there to get some help, but Getting Jackson's contract down might come easier now.

KCJ58
02-29-2008, 06:53 PM
Two news articles today

Jeff Wilkins Retires & James Hall is released

(Wilkins)
http://io.stlouisrams.com/article/67103


(Hall)
http://io.stlouisrams.com/article/67106

NGSeiler
02-29-2008, 07:32 PM
Rams will be replacing Wilkins with Josh Brown...

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/BE9430A652FABEFD862573FE0061BBF1?OpenDocument

KCJ58
02-29-2008, 08:19 PM
Tubby will be soooooo pissed

freebirdsrams02
03-01-2008, 11:15 AM
It looks like the Rams are making room for nothing. Most of the big name DL guys are all gone and the OL FA list is getting smaller and smaller. Why make cap room if were going to miss out on FA.

yodabear
03-01-2008, 04:38 PM
Ooooooh, I will get my chance to kill Josh Brown!

fenikz
03-02-2008, 04:10 AM
Can you guys tell me a little bit about Brandon Chillar because it looks like he is coming in for a visit is he a good pass rusher, does he fit in a 3-4? is he more of a depth guy or can he become a good player with the right system and coaching?

Tom_23
03-02-2008, 03:10 PM
I'd like us to go after jake scott but it appears jacob bell is our target

NGSeiler
03-02-2008, 11:05 PM
Can you guys tell me a little bit about Brandon Chillar because it looks like he is coming in for a visit is he a good pass rusher, does he fit in a 3-4? is he more of a depth guy or can he become a good player with the right system and coaching?

Not sure about his fit in the 3-4. I'd probably put him at ILB before I'd put him on the outside just because I'm not sure how much he brings to the table as a pass rusher. He's been a capable two-down player in St. Louis, is a hard working player, but is probably limited athletically.

I'd like us to go after jake scott but it appears jacob bell is our target

I'm fine with Bell, as I'm worried about how much success Scott would have outside of Indy. He's young and shouldn't command as much as Faneca, whom the Rams apparently made a significant push for.

There's also rumblings that the Rams are interested in FB Tony Richardson, which would be a solid addition.

rockio42
03-02-2008, 11:43 PM
I hope we make a push for an Antwan Odom, Ian Scott (or any DT), Jacob Bell, or Shane Olivea

any of those guys would make me relatively happy

holt_bruce81
03-03-2008, 06:50 PM
Jacob Bell just signed! huge signing for the Rams.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=2843

Just say NO to Jake Long!!

freebirdsrams02
03-03-2008, 07:34 PM
A good signing for the Rams with Bell!!

Richardson would also be a big signing for the Rams. Has anyone heard anythng about Odom.

holt_bruce81
03-03-2008, 08:22 PM
A good signing for the Rams with Bell!!

Richardson would also be a big signing for the Rams. Has anyone heard anythng about Odom.

I believe he signed with Cinci.

NGSeiler
03-04-2008, 12:32 AM
It's looking more and more as if we're going to have to find ourselves a potential starting defensive end through the draft.

KCJ58
03-04-2008, 12:36 AM
It's looking more and more as if we're going to have to find ourselves a potential starting defensive end through the draft.

Chris Long or Vernon Gholston is 100% fine with me

nfrillman
03-04-2008, 12:59 AM
Yeah, at this point I would be relatively shocked if the Rams didn't take a DE in the 1st round. Jake Long would be a bit of an odd pick now because he would have been playing guard or just backing up, and now we have 3 viable guards. Of course Pace is likely to get injured, but I was taking a quick trip to fairy tale land with that scenario. So, now an "extra" guard and backup tackle seems like an issue best addressed via older veteran addition, ala what Steussie gave us two years ago.

d34ng3l021
03-04-2008, 08:54 PM
Jake Long is ours! Excellent.

nfrillman
03-05-2008, 03:08 AM
Jake Long is ours! Excellent.

ummmm, do you mean chris

NGSeiler
03-05-2008, 01:09 PM
ummmm, do you mean chris

He's a Falcons fan.

nfrillman
03-05-2008, 02:37 PM
He's a Falcons fan.

Oh, well that makes more sense then.

KCJ58
03-06-2008, 07:43 PM
why did we sign another Tight End?

nfrillman
03-06-2008, 07:57 PM
why did we sign another Tight End?

He is a solid blocking TE, while Klopfenstein isn't and McMichael is best used as a receiving threat. I'm guessing on obvious run situations Becht will come in to help keep McMichael fresh, and on two TE sets, which should become more frequent, a solid blocking TE will be available instead of Klopf. Plus, we are assembling the greatest arsenal of TE weapons ever, unstoppable.

They also resigned Andy Goldberg, who ideally won't be starting, but provides decent depth and versatility. That being said, I hope I see a lot of the back of his jersey on the sidelines next year.

KCJ58
03-06-2008, 08:33 PM
i would like Klopfenstein to get the ball more

NGSeiler
03-07-2008, 12:51 AM
He is a solid blocking TE, while Klopfenstein isn't and McMichael is best used as a receiving threat. I'm guessing on obvious run situations Becht will come in to help keep McMichael fresh, and on two TE sets, which should become more frequent, a solid blocking TE will be available instead of Klopf. Plus, we are assembling the greatest arsenal of TE weapons ever, unstoppable.

Goos summation. With Aaron Walker leaving as a free agent, the Rams needed to add someone in the TE department that offered some blocking ability. This gives us four tight ends under contract, which isn't incredibly abnormal. Hopefully Byrd gets cut and it becomes three.

freebirdsrams02
03-10-2008, 08:40 PM
Trent Green signs a 3 year deal to come back and play for the Rams. Don't know if this is a good signing or not. I was hoping the Rams would get a young QB instead of an older QB coming of big injuries.

KCJ58
03-10-2008, 08:57 PM
Trent Green signs a 3 year deal to come back and play for the Rams. Don't know if this is a good signing or not. I was hoping the Rams would get a young QB instead of an older QB coming of big injuries.

they could still draft 1

luckyjackaubrey
03-17-2008, 05:07 PM
Anyone have any insight on Raonall Smith ? I remember reading about him a few years back as a big fast linebacker prospect. As a Patriots fan, I am wondering why there has been no talk about him associated with any team. In reading this thread, no Rams fan seems to be mentioning him either. Was there an injury ? Any insight appreciated.

nfrillman
03-17-2008, 07:32 PM
Anyone have any insight on Raonall Smith ? I remember reading about him a few years back as a big fast linebacker prospect. As a Patriots fan, I am wondering why there has been no talk about him associated with any team. In reading this thread, no Rams fan seems to be mentioning him either. Was there an injury ? Any insight appreciated.

Rams fans were mildly excited about him because we heard the same things about him when we signed him. The problem with him is that he is injury prone and not really that good. I don't think he suffered any major injury last year, not that it matters since he hardly ever touched the field. Basically don't get excited if your team gets him because he isn't that good.

freebirdsrams02
03-20-2008, 11:51 AM
Chillar signs with the Packers. So where does that leave us at LB. Do we need to move that position up in the draft or try to pick up a FA.

nfrillman
03-20-2008, 01:34 PM
Chillar signs with the Packers. So where does that leave us at LB. Do we need to move that position up in the draft or try to pick up a FA.

From what I have been hearing the staff really seems to like Culberson. So as of right now they have 5 LB's on the roster:

MLB- Witherspoon, McGarigle
WLB- Tinoisamoa, Draft
SLB- Culberson

I would say that a second day pick on a LB is more likely than signing a FA, remember that only rounds 1 and 2 are on the first day now. It would be cheaper and the rookie would have more potential. The earliest I see them taking a LB is the 4th round, unless they have an extra 3rd I don't know about.

Round 1: DE
Round 2: OL, WR
Round 3: WR, OL.......which ever one they don't take in 2nd round
Round 4: CB, LB, SS
Round 5-7: BPA

freebirdsrams02
03-21-2008, 12:01 PM
C Brett Romberg re-signs with the team and they also add depth to CB with David Macklin.

freebirdsrams02
03-25-2008, 11:54 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3310781

Rams re-sign DE James Hall and sign Reche Caldwell WR.

nfrillman
03-25-2008, 02:56 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3310781

Rams re-sign DE James Hall and sign Reche Caldwell WR.

I heard about Hall coming back, which makes since because we only had 3 DE's. The Caldwell signing is a pleasent surprise. The WR corp was dangerously thin. I'm guessing he will be our 3rd WR pending a drafted WR. Either way I feel much more comfortable about the depth at WR now, though I still wouldn't mind if they drafted one, a future HOF'er preferably.

freebirdsrams02
03-25-2008, 05:54 PM
Signing Caldwell might push our draft need back a little, which might help since we could use a S or SLB.

NGSeiler
03-25-2008, 09:37 PM
Signing Caldwell might push our draft need back a little

Doubtful, IMO. Signing guys like Caldwell and Hall probably do very little in terms of impacting our draft strategy.

nfrillman
03-25-2008, 11:31 PM
Doubtful, IMO. Signing guys like Caldwell and Hall probably do very little in terms of impacting our draft strategy.

Those signings most likely won't change the draft, but I would guess the Caldwell signing has a better chance of slightly altering the draft. The WR's are more set than DE. Caldwell will be the 3rd WR which isn't terrible for us, whereas Hall would still be a starter, which I don't think anyone would be particularly thrilled about. So basically DE is still a gigantic need and the WR spot is still in need of a guy who can become a number 1 or 2 WR for us down the road, but an impact guy isn't needed immediately at WR.

NGSeiler
03-26-2008, 01:01 AM
So basically DE is still a gigantic need and the WR spot is still in need of a guy who can become a number 1 or 2 WR for us down the road, but an impact guy isn't needed immediately at WR.

Again, I disagree. Defensive end is still a gigantic need, yes, but I don't see the Caldwell signing as affecting our need for a young WR who can develop into a starter but who can also contribute immediately as a slot man or a guy who can stretch the field in multiple receiver sets. I don't think Caldwell is even guaranteed to make it on the regular season roster, let alone ready to be penciled in to the #3 spot.

nfrillman
03-26-2008, 06:34 PM
Again, I disagree. Defensive end is still a gigantic need, yes, but I don't see the Caldwell signing as affecting our need for a young WR who can develop into a starter but who can also contribute immediately as a slot man or a guy who can stretch the field in multiple receiver sets. I don't think Caldwell is even guaranteed to make it on the regular season roster, let alone ready to be penciled in to the #3 spot.

Well I see what you are saying. I just think it's safe to say that the Rams have more guys they would be comfortable putting at the 3rd WR spot if necessary with Caldwell, Hagans, and Hall than they do at the starting DE spot, because really none of those guys are good options as far as a starter goes. Don't get me wrong, I would definitely love for them to draft a guy that can beat out those other WR's for the slot position, and I think it is still extremely likely that they will draft a WR. I just think they might target a WR a tad later in the draft, a tad. With that being said, if someone falls that they really like, the Caldwell signing is not going to discourage them from taking said WR. The Hall signing on the other hand effects the front half of their draft in absolutely no way IMO. They may not feel the need to draft a DE for depth in round 5-7 now, but a DE is still going to be taken in one of the first two rounds.

freebirdsrams02
03-26-2008, 08:21 PM
I just see it as signing Caldwell we draft a WR in the 3rd or 4th instead of the 2nd. I think they still go DL in the first and OT in the 2nd. If they see a better fit in the 3rd that is not a WR I think they are fine drafting another position. This draft is not very good for WR anyways.

NGSeiler
03-26-2008, 10:13 PM
The problem is at the top of round two you're likely going to see a guy with a late first round grade slip into your lap. Maybe someone like Manningham, Kelly, Hardy, etc. I don't think that's something the Rams are likely to pass on simply because they signed Reche Caldwell to a minimal one-year contract. Signing two solid but unspectacular players in Hall and Caldwell shouldn't change the draft outlook for either position, IMO.

holt_bruce81
03-26-2008, 10:54 PM
Caldwell will fight to be the teams 6th WR. It won't hurt the Rams if he is cut. The signings of Hall and Caldwell will in no way effect the way the Rams draft.

my dream draft:

1. Chris Long DE
2. Mario Manningham or DeSean Jackson WR
3. Brandon Flowers CB

With Fakhir Brown likely done for the year, CB will be a need.

freebirdsrams02
03-26-2008, 11:34 PM
So should the Rams even look at a replacement for Pace.

holt_bruce81
03-27-2008, 12:59 AM
So should the Rams even look at a replacement for Pace.

The draft is only 3 rounds isn't it.

Geo
03-27-2008, 01:26 AM
I really like the signing of Reche Caldwell, an under-the-radar signing but very important in bolstering their receiver core, giving the team experienced depth if not a legit #2 starter. I'm not a fan of Drew Bennett, I don't think he can adequately fulfill that role. But I do agree that even with the addition of Caldwell that the Rams need to draft a wide receiver, and could take advantage of a top-notch receiver prospect reaching their 2nd round pick, someone like Earl Bennett, Mario Manningham, or Early Doucet.

The James Hall re-signing is good also, giving the team a veteran option and depth at LDE, and a starter if need be probably although that wouldn't be the ideal situation (more like due to injury). There's a number of bigger defensive ends in the Draft, including one at the very top in Chris Long, hopefully the Rams can draft one of them to help out in that regard. Or Adam Carriker could slide to LDE and do well there, I think.

Good moves by the Rams there imo.

nfrillman
03-27-2008, 04:57 PM
With Fakhir Brown likely done for the year, CB will be a need.

I've heard this talk about Brown possibly being suspended. Where is this information coming from? I have never seen a link about it, just people mentioning it hear and there. I'm starting to think that people are thinking it's true because everyone else is talking about it.

nfrillman
03-27-2008, 04:59 PM
So should the Rams even look at a replacement for Pace.

They should definitely draft an OT at some point in the first 3 rounds. Pace has had season ending injuries two years in a row and he isn't getting younger. They need a reliable back-up at the very least, and if that is in the form of a young draft pick then it's even better.

nfrillman
03-27-2008, 05:00 PM
The draft is only 3 rounds isn't it.

Ummm, not sure if you are being for real, but the draft is 7 rounds.

holt_bruce81
03-27-2008, 07:02 PM
Ummm, not sure if you are being for real, but the draft is 7 rounds.

I know but freebirdsrams02 is freaking out cuz I didn't give the Rams an OT in the first 3 rounds when theres 4 rounds remaining.

holt_bruce81
03-27-2008, 07:05 PM
I've heard this talk about Brown possibly being suspended. Where is this information coming from? I have never seen a link about it, just people mentioning it hear and there. I'm starting to think that people are thinking it's true because everyone else is talking about it.

Jim Thomas and Bernie Miklasz mention it all the time but say they can't go into detail. Fakhir is Appealing the suspension, and no one can give any details while it's still in the appealing process.