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P-L
02-26-2008, 09:39 PM
Alright, now that everything is settled, here are the rules. If you have any questions or think I left something out, just ask.

Participants - 10 Team League
DChess
fischbowl
Giantsfan1080
HinesWardJr
P-L
S4L
scottyboy
slightlyaraidersfan
Tampa 2 4 Life
wo_ot88Scoring - Standard 5x5 Rotisserie
Runs (R)
Home Runs (HR)
Runs Batted In (RBI)
Stolen Bases (SB)
Average (AVG)
Wins (W)
Saves (SV)
Strikeouts (K)
Earned Run Average (ERA)
Walks and Hits per Innings Pitched (WHIP)Roster Positions - 27 Overall
1 x Catcher (C)
1 x First Baseman (1B)
1 x Second Baseman (2B)
1 x Third Baseman (3B)
1 x Shortstop (SS)
3 x Outfielders (OF)
1 x Corner Infielders (1B/3B)
1 x Middle Infielders (2B/SS)
2 x All Batters (UTL)
3 x Starting Pitchers (SP)
2 x Relief Pitchers (RP)
3 x Pitchers (SP/RP)
7 x Bench (BN)
2 x Disabled List (DL)Keeper Rules

At the end of the season you may keep up to, but no more than five players and no less than three each year. You cannot keep 1st Round draft picks. After all of the teams have chosen which players to keep, the rest of the players will be put into next year's draft. When next year's draft comes around, you must forfeit a draft pick for each player you decide to keep. That draft pick will be determined be 1 + [The Round the player was drafted in the previous year]. Last of all, if any player goes undrafted and you want to keep him, you will lose your 25th Round pick the following year. You may only keep 1 player that went undrafted and you cannot keep two players drafted in the same round.

Example: You keep four players: Player A (Drafted in 2nd Round), Player B (Drafted in 5th Round), Player C (Drafted in 7th Round), and Player D (Drafted in 12th Round. Come draft time you will forfeit your 1st, 4th, 6th, and 11th Round picks.

You can only keep an individual player for three consecutive years, including the year you drafted him in. There is one exception. You may only keep a 2nd Round pick for two years (the year you drafted him in and the next year). After a player has been on your team for three consecutive years, they will be automatically be thrown into the draft pool.

Draft Order and Lottery

The Draft Order each year will be loosely based on the final standings of the previous year. The 6th-10th picks will be directly determined by final standings. The 5th place finisher will get the 6th pick, the 4th place finisher gets the 7th pick, the 3rd place finisher gets the 8th picks, the 2nd place finisher gets the 9th pick, and the Champion (1st place) gets the 10th pick. The 1st-5th picks will be determined by a lottery system, to limit teams tanking for the #1 overall pick. To determine the order of the top five picks, there will be 21 numbers that will be randomized. The 10th place finisher will choose 8 numbers (38% chance), 9th place will choose 6 numbers (29%), 8th will choose 4 numbers (19%), 7th will choose 2 numbers (10%), and 6th will choose 1 number (4%). Numbers will be randomized, and draft order will be determined.

Expansion Draft

I will replace anyone who is not active in this league or who I feel is tanking for draft picks. If anyone quits or is replaced, we will have an expansion draft at the beginning of next season. Any new owner(s) must keep between three and five players. They will however, not be limited to just the players on the team they inherit. All players who are not kept by the other owners in the league, will be eligible to be kept by the new owner(s). The only rules are: Still no 1st Round picks can be kept and they cannot keep more than one player drafted in any single round (this includes no more than 1 player who went undrafted the previous year).


If you have any questions or concerns, please ask. If any of the wording confuses you in the above post, I will be glad to clarify. Thanks everyone, good luck drafting next Monday.

DChess
02-28-2008, 09:03 PM
im down, i just hope everyone is active.

scottyboy
02-28-2008, 09:05 PM
i'm always down if you need more guys

P-L
02-28-2008, 09:11 PM
im down, i just hope everyone is active.
I'm hoping to get 15-20 guys who are interested and narrow it down to the 10 most reliable.

DChess
02-28-2008, 09:12 PM
I'm hoping to get 15-20 guys who are interested and narrow it down to the 10 most reliable.

sounds good. i wouldnt be so picky if it were a normal league but its a keeper, it takes way more commitment plus knowledge of the game.

Hines
02-28-2008, 09:25 PM
I already said I was down. I am new to this fantasy keeper, but it seems like fun.

HChu
02-28-2008, 09:30 PM
Sounds pretty interesting.

Goatboy1717
02-28-2008, 09:33 PM
Im down. As long as everyone is active.

S4L
02-28-2008, 09:34 PM
I'd love to be a part of this. I'm always looking for competitive players to play Fantasy Baseball with.

If you have any questions about my reliability, just ask JBond, who I've worked with on many forum mocks and Halo tournaments, or Geo, who ran the football keeper that I was active in this past season.

(Disclaimer: If this league is getting started this weekend, then I must inform you that I will be out of town, and possibly off the grid, until Monday, March 3.)

Hines
02-28-2008, 09:49 PM
If the draft does happen this weekend, I will not be able to make it as I am moving this weekend. Monday after 12 pm western time I will be available.

P-L
02-28-2008, 09:53 PM
The draft will likely be an off-line draft, here on NFLDC. Anyways, regardless of whether we do a live draft or an off-line draft it won't be until after March 10th.

Billingsley26
02-28-2008, 09:54 PM
count me in

roughrider30
02-29-2008, 12:14 AM
I have spring break this next week, so I will definitely be around for the draft.

KCJ58
02-29-2008, 12:16 AM
Im down P-L

Giantsfan1080
02-29-2008, 07:32 AM
I'd be interested but i'd really be interested if we supplemented it with a minor league draft where you get to keep 2 or 3 minor leaguers per year or something like that.

P-L
02-29-2008, 01:57 PM
Ok, I currently have 16 guys and I'm only going to take 9 of them. Some guys are more interested than others. I'll try and narrow it down tonight, and give everyone the sign up information.

BrownsTown
02-29-2008, 02:50 PM
I'd definately be interested. Sorry I didn't see this, I've been busy.

slightlyaraiderfan
02-29-2008, 06:43 PM
I am interested

P-L
02-29-2008, 07:34 PM
Sorry to those that did not get in, it was a VERY tough decision but I've narrowed it down to a final ten.

For those of you who received PM's from me, here are some draft times that are ideal for me:

Sun-Tue, Thu, Sat - 10:30 PM or later
Wed - 10:00 PM or later
Fri - Anytime

Any day between Tuesday, March 11th and Thursday, March 20th

What times are good for you guys?

slightlyaraiderfan
02-29-2008, 09:08 PM
I'm good for after 10:00-10:30 on weekdays, I can sometimes do weekends too.

Tampa 2 4 life
02-29-2008, 09:11 PM
I'm good any day from 2PM to 11PM.

Giantsfan1080
02-29-2008, 09:55 PM
Monday at like 1030 would be the best for me.

DChess
03-01-2008, 01:24 AM
how the **** did hinezward make the cut. im good monday after 1:00.think we should wait till we get closer to the season though

Hines
03-01-2008, 03:24 AM
Im down anyday past 1 pacific time.

scottyboy
03-01-2008, 06:33 AM
the weekends are probably better for me. This week is the last before lacrosse season and SAT prep courses start, and during that time I'll be extremly busy. Any time this week after around 4:30 EST would be good for me.

P-L
03-01-2008, 06:40 AM
how the **** did hinezward make the cut. im good monday after 1:00.think we should wait till we get closer to the season though
Right now, I thinking it'll probably be March 17th. It's not set for sure though.

fischbowl
03-01-2008, 11:30 AM
im good for after 10 on a wednesday

P-L
03-02-2008, 09:37 AM
Still need 1 person to sign up. I think it's Giantsfan, but I'm not 100% sure.

DChess
03-05-2008, 12:19 AM
if i get #1 theres no doubt in my mind im taking clemens

P-L
03-05-2008, 09:49 AM
if i get #1 theres no doubt in my mind im taking clemens
This reminds me of something. If anyone is going to pre-rank, make sure you remove the players you do not want from your rankings. It seems every year someone can't make the draft and they end up with all the retired or Free Agent players.

B-Dawk
03-08-2008, 10:21 AM
if you still need one more, I would be able to join

P-L
03-08-2008, 02:38 PM
Ok, a few things to discuss.

I saw this in a fantasy baseball magazine and thought it was a cool idea. I'd like your guys' thoughts. Normally in keeper leagues, next year's draft order is determined by the previous year's results. For example, whoever finishes last gets the #1 overall pick and whoever finishes first gets the #10 overall pick. However, what about having a lottery for the bottom 3 or bottom 5 finishers to prevent tanking at the end of the season? Basically whoever finishes 10th gets a 33.3% chance at the #1 overall pick, 9th gets a 26.7% chance, 8th gets a 20% chance, 7th gets a 13.3% chance, and 6th gets a 7% chance (exact percentages could be adjusted).

Also, because the plan to have an off-line draft did not happen as I wanted to I am planning on pre-determining the draft order using RANDOM.org. This allows us all to plan ahead and have some sort of strategy going into the draft. This is something we would normally have in doing an off-line draft, but can't have the benefit when Yahoo! determines the order a few minutes before the draft. Is anyone opposed to this?

scottyboy
03-08-2008, 02:42 PM
that lottery thing for next year seems pretty cool. I plan on finishing first, so it would only help me ;)

and I can't read

S4L
03-08-2008, 02:44 PM
Ok, a few things to discuss.

I saw this in a fantasy baseball magazine and thought it was a cool idea. I'd like your guys' thoughts. Normally in keeper leagues, next year's draft order is determined by the previous year's results. For example, whoever finishes last gets the #1 overall pick and whoever finishes first gets the #10 overall pick. However, what about having a lottery for the bottom 3 or bottom 5 finishers to prevent tanking at the end of the season? Basically whoever finishes 10th gets a 33.3% chance at the #1 overall pick, 9th gets a 26.7% chance, 8th gets a 20% chance, 7th gets a 13.3% chance, and 6th gets a 7% chance (exact percentages could be adjusted).

Also, because the plan to have an off-line draft did not happen as I wanted to I am planning on pre-determining the draft order using RANDOM.org. This allows us all to plan ahead and have some sort of strategy going into the draft. This is something we would normally have in doing an off-line draft, but can't have the benefit when Yahoo! determines the order a few minutes before the draft. Is anyone opposed to this?

I like both of those ideas.

There would certainly be tanking at the end of the season, especially if a guy has been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. I know I would tank, but this limits this, although tanking would still happen to get a better, though not guaranteed, shot at the #1 pick. Is there a site that can do this sort of lottery?

And I'd always prefer knowing where I am going to pick than not knowing.

P-L
03-08-2008, 02:44 PM
No, we will still be having a Live Yahoo! Draft, but you will just know what spot you are picking way in advanced instead of 15 minutes before. We really don't have time for an off-line draft this year.

scottyboy
03-08-2008, 02:46 PM
oh, my fault P-L, read it wrong. using random.org is a great idea for we know ahead of time.

and yea, off line drafts take forever

Tampa 2 4 life
03-08-2008, 02:51 PM
Yeah, a lottery sounds better than having someone play Roger Clemens and Schilling as their SPs at the end of the year.

BigDawg819
03-08-2008, 04:54 PM
I'm open for this league if there's a spot. If not then best of luck to the lot.

P-L
03-09-2008, 04:43 PM
If I get no more objections the draft order will be released at 10:00 PM tonight. That will give everyone 8 days to form a strategy in the early rounds and do some mock drafts if you wish.

P-L
03-09-2008, 08:58 PM
Alright everyone, here is your draft order:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7/draftorderxt0.png

S4L
03-10-2008, 08:24 PM
Excellent! Now to figure out the most valuable fantasy player not named Alex Rodriguez.

DChess
03-14-2008, 11:42 AM
ballin'

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a154/corina_m/balliinnnyp5.gif

fischbowl
03-14-2008, 01:14 PM
Portokali Mpeizmpol is happy with their pick #

P-L
03-14-2008, 01:25 PM
Who isn't going to be able to make it Monday?

Hines
03-14-2008, 02:41 PM
Who isn't going to be able to make it Monday?

I will let you know Sunday if I will be able to make it or not.

scottyboy
03-14-2008, 05:22 PM
Who isn't going to be able to make it Monday?

I'm not sure right now. I may, it'll be hard, but I'll no doubt try...

fischbowl
03-14-2008, 05:27 PM
I'll be there. I'll be exhausted and fatigued but I'm sure that will only assist the rest of you

P-L
03-16-2008, 10:16 PM
We are just less than 24 hours away from the draft. I will remind you all AGAIN. If you think there is a possibility that you won't make the draft then please pre-rank your players.

Hines
03-16-2008, 10:22 PM
I have a job interview at 4:30 so I will most likely be there. I will pre rank my players just in case though.

P-L
03-17-2008, 08:58 PM
***ATTENTION EVERYONE***

Draft is at 10:30 PM (EST). That is in 30 minutes.

Hines
03-17-2008, 09:14 PM
I will be there.

P-L
03-17-2008, 09:16 PM
I will be there.
How'd that job interview go?

Hines
03-17-2008, 09:27 PM
How'd that job interview go?

You already know, I told you already.

P-L
03-17-2008, 11:50 PM
I'm very happy with my team. I think I may have taken too many risks with my Starting Pitching and I don't have any "win now" contributors on my bench, but other than that I really like my team.

C: Victor Martinez
1B: Travis Hafner
2B: Dan Uggla
3B: David Wright
SS: Michael Young
CI: Adrian Beltre
MI: Julio Lugo
OF: Alfonso Soriano
OF: Carlos Lee
OF: Vernon Wells
UTL: Shane Victorino
UTL: Yunel Escobar
BN: Billy Butler
BN: Chase Headley
BN: Josh Willingham
BN: Carlos Ruiz

SP: Cole Hamels
SP: Diasuke Matsuzaka
SP: Francisco Liriano
RP: Francisco Rodriguez
RP: Joakim Soria
P: Jason Isringhausen
P: Todd Jones
P: Joe Borowski
BN: Dustin McGowan
BN: Oliver Perez
BN: Scott Baker

Hines
03-18-2008, 12:31 AM
My team is very young, but very talented. I might not do well this year, but next year and the year after I will do a lot of damage when my players develop. I think I drafted smart.

S4L
04-20-2008, 11:03 AM
It doesn't look like there's any discussion on here. Or maybe it's just so small that I can't read it from 20 POINTS AHEAD.

DChess
04-21-2008, 07:02 PM
im in second but s4l is 20 pts ahead. what a douche

P-L
10-01-2008, 06:48 PM
I need to know who in this league plans on returning next year. There was virtually no activity from 2 or 3 guys and very little from 1 or 2 more. Personally, I'd like to continue but if too many of you want out I have no problem restarting next year with new and more reliable players.

D-Unit
10-01-2008, 07:02 PM
So who won this?

P-L
10-01-2008, 07:06 PM
DChess won.

D-Unit
10-01-2008, 07:23 PM
DChess won.
Innnn-ta-res-ting-gu. Congrats to DChess. Quickly establishing himself as a fantasy mogul.

CJSchneider
10-01-2008, 07:55 PM
I hope to get in next year.

fischbowl
10-01-2008, 08:20 PM
When do we pick our keepers?

P-L
10-01-2008, 08:24 PM
Innnn-ta-res-ting-gu. Congrats to DChess. Quickly establishing himself as a fantasy mogul.
DChess did such a good job drafting and making moves, it was almost unfair. He also snatched Alexei Ramirez off of waivers.

L. Berkman, A. Ramirez, A. Rodriguez, A. Huff, C. Beltran, R. Ludwick, D. Ortiz, A. Dunn, B. Abreu

and

C. Lee, M. Mussina, G. Floyd, A. Burnett, J. Duchscherer, J. Nathan, B. Lidge

He absolutely ran away with this league. I have to applaud him for putting together a team that great.