NFL Draft 2007

[bearsfan_51]

oooook, back to the draft. What are we hoping to get for Briggs? A high second with a 4th maybe?

Nothing. Don't trade him. **** him. If he doesn't want to play let him rot. Make an example of him.

[Bearsfan123]

my only concern with Scotts mock is the lack of a safety. If we moved Briggs to Houston for their 2nd and 5th rders then we could grab Meriweather as well, then this draft would be utterly perfect. (Well as close as we can get, since no TE but hey ill take needs over wants any day) Otherwise the way Scotts falls is great.

[VoteLynnSwan]

I would prefer Joe Staley in the 2nd, but i love the Jarrett and Durant picks.

[regoob2]

I was just looking at scott's new mock and how would this sound, Trade 37 to the cowboys for there second and third so they can take Meriweather at 37, we take Zach Miller in round 2, John Wendling with there second, and maybe Tony Hunt with our 3rd, i really dont like drafting O-line presonally

[bearsfan_51]

I love Scott's mock. I LOVE Durant in the 3rd, but I don't believe it unless teams are worried about the fact that he's from Hampton. His measurables and potential production are a steal in the very late 3rd.

I also love Jarrett at 31. He's a perfect replacement for Moose, who probably has about two more years left on the team, at least at a high level. I think Moose could have an end to his career similar to Rod Smith in that he's still a reliable veteran though.

I still think OT is a greater need than OG, but either way it's a good spot to start thinking about the line. I think if Griffin isn't available at 31 our two picks should be WR and OL in either order. There should be good value for both at those spots.

The lack of a safety pick is troublesome, as I view that as our biggest need. But Chris Harris is an adequate 3rd safety and competition/depth could be found in the 2nd day. Same with Tight End and Runningback.

[Bearsfan123]

im for moving briggs to Houston. Think they would give us their 2nd and 5th for him? I think that could easily fix the problems with our team. (Well besides a couple of problems anyway)

[regoob2]

Durant reminds me a lot of Jamar Williams last year, similar size and speed, good in coverage, solid 3 year starter, I think WLB is a need but I dont know if Durant is that much better than Williams with a year of understanding the system under his belt

[bearsfan_51]

I'm not a fan of Williams, so I have Durant much much higher. I think Durant has a much higher upside, Williams seems much more limited in his potential.

[Hurricane Ditka]

Scott's latest mock was about as good as it gets as far as the Bears are concerned. I think that Williams has potential, but Durant does too. I think Williams could start at SAM, and WIL if needed, but I don't think Durant would do well on the strongside. With no sign of contract talks between the Bears and Ruben Brown, I love the Grubbs pick. And I don't think anyone will complaing about taking Dwayne Jarrett.

[pellepelle_10]

Tell that to Jerry Angelo. You can site all the examples of all the successful o-lines that have been built via the draft but it doesn't change the fact that Angelo did not draft a single OL that is starting on the line right now.

I have been saying this for quite sometime now. I yet to see Angelo pull the trigger on upper tier lineman since Colombo. I highly doubt he goes O-Line in the first or 2nd rounds but I could be wrong. I just don't see it happening. If Angelo has been successful going FA then I think he'll utilize what his strengths are. Not go against the grain. Again its just my opinion thogh. I agree with you 100% on this though.

[pellepelle_10]

Scott's latest mock was about as good as it gets as far as the Bears are concerned. I think that Williams has potential, but Durant does too. I think Williams could start at SAM, and WIL if needed, but I don't think Durant would do well on the strongside. With no sign of contract talks between the Bears and Ruben Brown, I love the Grubbs pick. And I don't think anyone will complaing about taking Dwayne Jarrett.

No complaints about Jarrett. However I'd rather have a top tier receiver as well as some DB help. I think Grubbs is a solid lineman but I'd personally take Merriweather or Beason in the 2nd. I wouldn't be upset if they took Grubbs as a 2nd and not 1st rounder. I'd still rather them address another position though.

[pellepelle_10]

The lack of a safety pick is troublesome, as I view that as our biggest need. But Chris Harris is an adequate 3rd safety and competition/depth could be found in the 2nd day. Same with Tight End and Runningback.

I TOTALLY AGREE with this. And to say this draft has possibly one of the best safety cores in quite sometime puzzles me we don't take one of these guys. No knock on Grubbs and I think he'll be a fine Guard in the league but why not get Merriweather with this pick? I think Jarrett can be a stud in the NFL but in all honesty I'd rather have Griffin and Jason Hill with a trade down. If you ask me Jarrett and Merriweather is very close to Griffin and Hill. Now if we could trade down to the middle 2nd and get Hill along with another 3rd I'd take that in a heartbeat.

[Bearsfan123]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR4l0vMSrlc

this is the reason Meriweather cant be selected at either of our picks

[Hurricane Ditka]

I have been saying this for quite sometime now. I yet to see Angelo pull the trigger on upper tier lineman since Colombo. I highly doubt he goes O-Line in the first or 2nd rounds but I could be wrong. I just don't see it happening. If Angelo has been successful going FA then I think he'll utilize what his strengths are. Not go against the grain. Again its just my opinion thogh. I agree with you 100% on this though.
When has Angelo had the option to draft an upper tier offensive lineman when there weren't bigger needs to address? This team has very few needs, despite what some of you think might think. The offensive line wasn't addressed in free agency so the chances we address it the draft have gone up.

[Hurricane Ditka]

No complaints about Jarrett. However I'd rather have a top tier receiver as well as some DB help. I think Grubbs is a solid lineman but I'd personally take Merriweather or Beason in the 2nd. I wouldn't be upset if they took Grubbs as a 2nd and not 1st rounder. I'd still rather them address another position though.
Beason wasn't there, and Merriweather's character concerns will prove too big a deterent after the Tank Johnson fiasco.

[KBear]

I would be happy with Jarrett, Grubbs, and Durant. Jarrett would be a good replacement for Moose in a few years and would lessen the need for a TE. Grubbs would have a good chance of starting fairly early this season, even more so if Brown is not resigned. I would have prefered Staley at that pick to groom to be our OLT in the future, but Grubbs could be a starter this year. Durant could be our future at WILL. I think the Bears could put Williams over on the strong side.

[bearsfan_51]

Pele, Griffin wasn't available at 31, so you can't really complain about that.

That being said, I'm sure that Scott would not have given him to us regardless.

[pellepelle_10]

Pele, Griffin wasn't available at 31, so you can't really complain about that.

That being said, I'm sure that Scott would not have given him to us regardless.

like I said before I think Jarrett would be a very good pick. I'd have zero complaints if we got him. I do think that Safety and OLB should be high priorities though. A talent like Jarrett you just can't pass up on though. If the first 3 rounds went like what Scott stated I'd have no complaints.

[Bearsfan123]

With the Gaps on our team (that could potentially be filled this year) i think its paramount to trade Briggs. Simply we need the picks. Especially this year, when the talent pool is in our favor.

[bearsfan_51]

With the Gaps on our team (that could potentially be filled this year) i think its paramount to trade Briggs. Simply we need the picks. Especially this year, when the talent pool is in our favor.
Trading Briggs just creates a much much bigger gap. We should sign him longterm, or at the very least offer him a one year deal with the promise that we won't franchise him ala what the Bills did with Clements.

[Bearsfan123]

Trading Briggs just creates a much much bigger gap. We should sign him longterm, or at the very least offer him a one year deal with the promise that we won't franchise him ala what the Bills did with Clements.

its pretty apparent he wont agree to a 1 yr deal and we arent going to pay him long term what he wants so the only option left is trade him.

[KBear]

Trading Briggs just creates a much much bigger gap. We should sign him longterm, or at the very least offer him a one year deal with the promise that we won't franchise him ala what the Bills did with Clements.

I'd rather promise him $13 mil if he gets injured during the upcoming season. Then tell his agent to shop him around during and after the season, then slap the franchise tag on him again and trade him.

[bearsfan_51]

its pretty apparent he wont agree to a 1 yr deal and we arent going to pay him long term what he wants so the only option left is trade him.
Nothing is apparent at this point. It's March.

[Bearsfan123]

Bears Ideal Draft

Trade Lance Briggs our 4th rder and one of our 7th rders for Houstons 2nd and 3rd rder (this equals out to the 31st-32nd pick in the draft in value)

1-Dwayne Jarret WR-Gives the Bears a good possesion receiver who can eventually take over for Moose. Also its good hes in the NFC North so that when we see the Lions he can take out his draft position on Mike Williams
2a-Ben Grubbs G-A replacement for Ruben Brown, probably will be a backup this year but could end up starting due to injuries
2b-Brandon Meriweather S (I dislike this guy but hes talented)-Ugh i hate to make this pick because hes a thug, but with good interviews he can end up here. Hes a playmaker plain and simple and its something we need.
3a-Kareem Brown DT-An extra DT so we still have depth
3b-Justin Durant OLB-A possible replacement for Briggs
5-Kenneth Darby RB (not sure if hed be here)-A competitor for AP for the 2nd RB role
6-Laurent Robinson WR-A guy who will probably just be a ST but can blossom into a good receiver.
7-Prescott Burgess OLB-Probably just a special teamer.

[MP123]

If they trade Briggs, then how about Alexander at #31?

[regoob2]

at 31? maybe in the third, I like rufus alexander but no way he goes that high I would like us to get him but we dont have a pick late second early third where he will most likely go

[BUSTKUNTLAWL]

If they trade Briggs, then how about Alexander at #31?

No..

WAY too high.

[evershot]

I'm most likely in the minority on this one but I don't like the Jarret pick in the first for the Bears. I would have much rather get Sidney Rice in the second. I don't see much of a gap between Rice and Jarret. They both have high ceilings and both will need time to adjust to the pro game.

[Smokey Joe]

I'm most likely in the minority on this one but I don't like the Jarret pick in the first for the Bears. I would have much rather get Sidney Rice in the second. I don't see much of a gap between Rice and Jarret. They both have high ceilings and both will need time to adjust to the pro game.

Jarret is more physical and bigger, and would better compliment the smaller speedier recievers we have, and is a good blocker. Rice isn't that.

[evershot]

Jarret is more physical and bigger, and would better compliment the smaller speedier recievers we have, and is a good blocker. Rice isn't that.

Jarret is half an inch taller with less speed than Rice and his biggest knock is that he isn't physical enough to get off jams. They both have to get stronger and more physical. If drafted both will have time to improve because they won't be able to unseed either Moose or Berrian so they both can improve on their weaknesses. So why take Jarret in the first when Rice in the second has comparable measurables and potential? Granted I think Jarret is slightly better at this point in both of their developement but there isn't that big of a gap between Sidney Rice and Jarret.

[pellepelle_10]

Jarret is half an inch taller with less speed than Rice and his biggest knock is that he isn't physical enough to get off jams. They both have to get stronger and more physical. If drafted both will have time to improve because they won't be able to unseed either Moose or Berrian so they both can improve on their weaknesses. So why take Jarret in the first when Rice in the second has comparable measurables and potential? Granted I think Jarret is slightly better at this point in both of their developement but there isn't that big of a gap between Sidney Rice and Jarret.

You're living in a fantasy world if you think Rice is anywhere in comparrison as Jarrett. Jarrett is sure hands and a dangerous redzone threat. Rice was "supposedly" a speedster with height who was notorious for erratic play. I look at Rice as a slower inconsistent Troy Williamson.

[evershot]

You're living in a fantasy world if you think Rice is anywhere in comparrison as Jarrett. Jarrett is sure hands and a dangerous redzone threat. Rice was "supposedly" a speedster with height who was notorious for erratic play. I look at Rice as a slower inconsistent Troy Williamson.

You obviously have a pac-10 bias and think that all of Jarrett's success had nothing to do with the quality of the players he was surrounded by. Comparing Rice to Williamson is like comparing Jarrett to Mike Williams.

[KBear]

I think both Jarrett and Rice have a high bust potentiall. Jarrett IMO would be a better fit between the two. I think he will be a better blocker and being the potenial red zone threat will allow the Bears to be a bit more flexible by removing the need to get another weapon at TE.

[Hurricane Ditka]

With AA on board I'd say safety isn't a day one need anymore, which opens things up for WR, TE, OL, and OLB. Now if we can move Briggs we can address all four on day one.

[BUSTKUNTLAWL]

You obviously have a pac-10 bias and think that all of Jarrett's success had nothing to do with the quality of the players he was surrounded by. Comparing Rice to Williamson is like comparing Jarrett to Mike Williams.

It's actually worse.. Rice & Williamson are nothing alike.. While Jarrett & Mike Williams are atleast comparable.

[pellepelle_10]

You obviously have a pac-10 bias and think that all of Jarrett's success had nothing to do with the quality of the players he was surrounded by. Comparing Rice to Williamson is like comparing Jarrett to Mike Williams.

Of course it could have had a lot to do with the talent around him but you can make this same statement for any big time college player coming from big time schools. Just think of how many you'd put in that same category, Reggie Bush, Vince Young, Cedric Benson, ..the list goes on and on.

Rice isn't a bad WR. I just don't think he's as good as everyone whose hyped the guy up to be. he's been known for dropping balls and runs subpar routes. he's known as a burner..(maybe not time wise but on the field). Jarrett catches balls and he does a good job of running crisp routes. he also displays a very good work ethic (something Mike Williams never showed).

[bearsfan_51]

I would be happy with Jarrett at 31 or Rice at 37. They are my top two guys outside of Johnson and Ginn.

[Bearsfan123]

actually id like the Bears to trade down now that safety is no longer a need. If Jarret isnt there but a guy like Meachem or Rice is I could see us trading down with the Titans who are looking for a WR (mind you they would need to go something else with their 1st) This way we can concentrate on getting quality depth.
37-Ben Grubbs
50-Zach Miller
80-Turk McBride
94-Michael Johnson/Quincy Black

add in a possible late 2nd rder and 3rd rder for Briggs and add in

(these are the Saints picks BTW)
58 Rufus Alexander
88 Kenny Irons/Antonio Pittman/Tony Hunt/Darius Walker

[pellepelle_10]

actually id like the Bears to trade down now that safety is no longer a need. If Jarret isnt there but a guy like Meachem or Rice is I could see us trading down with the Titans who are looking for a WR (mind you they would need to go something else with their 1st) This way we can concentrate on getting quality depth.
37-Ben Grubbs
50-Zach Miller
80-Turk McBride
94-Michael Johnson/Quincy Black

add in a possible late 2nd rder and 3rd rder for Briggs and add in

(these are the Saints picks BTW)
58 Rufus Alexander
88 Kenny Irons/Antonio Pittman/Tony Hunt/Darius Walker

No disrespect but this draft makes me want to puke.

[KBear]

I dont think that would be that bad of a draft. I would rather just take Beason at #31 or #37 then trade down with the Titans though, and I would lean that way even more so if Briggs gets traded. Bears are in a small window of opportunity to win the Super Bowl, and Briggs play is a big reason why the Bears have done well. If they trade him, waiting for a rookie to develop might cause the Bears to miss out on a chance to win it all. The better the rookie though, the less chance for a drop off. If the Bears are going to keep Briggs around, then it would be ok to wait until the midrounds to go LB.

[evershot]

draft day scenerio

Trade 31 and Lance Briggs to the Bills for 12.

12. Amobi Okoye DT
37. Ben Grubbs OG
94. Quincy Black OLB

Amobi Okoye is the only player in this draft I think Angelo would be willing to trade Briggs for and the Bills are a perfect canidate for a trade.

[regoob2]

draft day scenerio

Trade 31 and Lance Briggs to the Bills for 12.

12. Amobi Okoye DT
37. Ben Grubbs OG
94. Quincy Black OLB

Amobi Okoye is the only player in this draft I think Angelo would be willing to trade Briggs for and the Bills are a perfect canidate for a trade.

id rather have a first rounder next year for briggs, maybe from the lions, bills, saints. all those teams could use briggs and all could tank next year and give us a great pick

[Bearsfan123]

No disrespect but this draft makes me want to puke.

really? i thought it addressed most of our needs but WR....please explain i am really proud of that draft and thought it was logical.

[evershot]

id rather have a first rounder next year for briggs, maybe from the lions, bills, saints. all those teams could use briggs and all could tank next year and give us a great pick

I rather have the Bears trade Briggs to an AFC team and get first round value this year. Amobi Okoye is the only player I think Angelo would be willing to move up in the first to get.

[bearsfan_51]

I rather have the Bears trade Briggs to an AFC team and get first round value this year. Amobi Okoye is the only player I think Angelo would be willing to move up in the first to get.

I have a really hard time believing that Briggs will be traded before the draft. If he is traded I think it'll be similar to the Branch situation where it'll happen the 2nd or 3rd game into the season where it's a point of no return.

At this point both sides are playing a game of chicken and don't want to be the first to blink. I don't see the Bears caving in that quickly, there is a precendent they are trying to set here.

[KBear]

I rather have the Bears trade Briggs to an AFC team and get first round value this year. Amobi Okoye is the only player I think Angelo would be willing to move up in the first to get.

If your suggesting to use Briggs to trade up, that only creates a weakness at OLB while not getting more picks in return. DT is a potential day one need, but its not worth it trading up to get Okoye. And when has Angelo ever really tried to move up in the first round?

[evershot]

If your suggesting to use Briggs to trade up, that only creates a weakness at OLB while not getting more picks in return. DT is a potential day one need, but its not worth it trading up to get Okoye. And when has Angelo ever really tried to move up in the first round?

I'm suggesting that Amobi Okoye is the rare type of talent which would cause Angelo to trade up in the first round. If Amobi Okoye is good enough to cause Tampa to consider drafting at the 4th spot he might be the type of talent to cause Angelo to trade up for.

As for the weakness at OLB the Bears have been sited to have worked out Quincy Black in a private workout and they still have Jamar Williams.

[bearsfan_51]

I really don't see why Okoye is such a rare talent honestly. This kid just became a big deal a few months ago, why? Becuase he's 20? Big whoop. I would consider him if I was at 12, but I wouldn't consider him.

[KBear]

The drop off from Briggs playing at a probowl level to starting Quincy Black is really big. Thats why I am not all for it. Plus, if the Bears did trade up for Okoye and then Black, we would not get an offensive draft pick on the first day of the draft again.

[evershot]

I really don't see why Okoye is such a rare talent honestly. This kid just became a big deal a few months ago, why? Becuase he's 20? Big whoop. I would consider him if I was at 12, but I wouldn't consider him.

He was always a first rounder but it wasn't until his performance in senior bowl practices that he just blew up. He really showed that his potential as a 3 tech is a rare type of talent because he compares well with the likes of Warren Sapp and Tommie Harris.

[evershot]

The drop off from Briggs playing at a probowl level to starting Quincy Black is really big. Thats why I am not all for it. Plus, if the Bears did trade up for Okoye and then Black, we would not get an offensive draft pick on the first day of the draft again.


No the Bears would still have the 37th pick and they can take an offensive player there. As for Briggs playing at a pro-bowl level... yes that will take time to adjust too, but it's a trade off and I feel that it will pay off late in the season.

[KBear]

Late in the season might be/probably would be to late. Bears play a harder schedule this year. One major injury and the Bears would be done.

[evershot]

Late in the season might be/probably would be to late. Bears play a harder schedule this year. One major injury and the Bears would be done.

I think last year proved that when Tommie went down the defense was not the same and with Tommie coming off an injury which was serious enough to require surgery I feel the Bears would benefit on easing him in and have another quality undertackle. Also with Tank looks like he may miss up to four games.

[regoob2]

DT is very important but not enough to give up briggs and a first rounder for

[evershot]

DT is very important but not enough to give up briggs and a first rounder for

That's all relative because it depends on the quality of the DT the Bears can get and the quality of OLB that the bears can get to replace briggs.

I'm not saying replacing Briggs will be easy but I think the scheme can help any new OLB. That's one of the positives of the Tampa 2.

[regoob2]

i agree but i still wouldnt trade up to get okoye

[KBear]

I think last year proved that when Tommie went down the defense was not the same and with Tommie coming off an injury which was serious enough to require surgery I feel the Bears would benefit on easing him in and have another quality undertackle. Also with Tank looks like he may miss up to four games.

I agree, but it would be finacially irresponsible to have both Harris and Okoye signed long long term. Which means in a few years it will be one or the other. I dont want the Bears to choose between one of the best defensive players vs a guy that they had to move up to get in the first round to get.

[evershot]

I agree, but it would be finacially irresponsible to have both Harris and Okoye signed long long term. Which means in a few years it will be one or the other. I dont want the Bears to choose between one of the best defensive players vs a guy that they had to move up to get in the first round to get.

I can see the concern but contract issues always occur down the road...just look at the Briggs situation. I think getting Okoye signed to a rookie deal for 4-5 years will actually be finacially cheaper than trying to resign Tank Johnson, especially with the market the way it is right now.

As for trying to tie down Tommie to a long term deal that's another reason why I think getting Okoye would help because I can bet you right now that Rosenhaus will hold the Bears hostage next off season. He will have to be the highest paid DT in the history of the NFL in order for the Bears to keep him, just look at the market and Rosenhaus record.

[sweetness34]

I like Scott's new mock. Very well done IMO. Staley looks to be off the board, and I think Griffin might be gone as well. But hey, keep pushing Dwayne down to us, b/c I'd be more than happy to take him.

Staley and Griffin are still by top 2 right now, but with them gone mine goes to Jarrett, Blaylock, Sears, and Beason.

Depending on what's going to happen with Briggs, which it looks more and more likely that he's going to sit out, despite me believing he'll shut up and play, we could be adding another first to this draft somewhere.

[gerky]

The Bears should address the offense the first round. They don't need a TE, Clark is very productive and is a excellent blocker. At reciever, they are deep with muhammed, berrain, bradley and davis. I think the only way to improve on offense is to select with the 31st pick:

FB Brian Leonard-Rutgers- He can help the Bears with a threat to catch out of the backfield and FB is the Bears only weakness I see

Then early in the second round they can address there depth at OG and select with the 37th overall pick:

OG Ben Grubbs- Auburn- A very solid guard with the right height and size and agility. A three year starter with Auburn, has been very durable and excellent blocker.

Before the Adam Archuletta trade, I wanted the Bears to get S Michael Griffin, he reminds me of Mike Brown. But they clearly addressed the depth at the S position.

In the later rounds, i can see the Bears address the RB position and TE and the depth at DT

[BUSTKUNTLAWL]

The Bears should address the offense the first round. They don't need a TE, Clark is very productive and is a excellent blocker. At reciever, they are deep with muhammed, berrain, bradley and davis. I think the only way to improve on offense is to select with the 31st pick:

FB Brian Leonard-Rutgers- He can help the Bears with a threat to catch out of the backfield and FB is the Bears only weakness I see

Then early in the second round they can address there depth at OG and select with the 37th overall pick:

OG Ben Grubbs- Auburn- A very solid guard with the right height and size and agility. A three year starter with Auburn, has been very durable and excellent blocker.

Before the Adam Archuletta trade, I wanted the Bears to get S Michael Griffin, he reminds me of Mike Brown. But they clearly addressed the depth at the S position.

In the later rounds, i can see the Bears address the RB position and TE and the depth at DT

The Bears are not deep at all at the WR position.. Moose is 34 and not a #1.. Berrian is a very good #2 WR; he's not a #1 WR IMO.. Bradley is unproven, and Davis is just a solid player.

Theres definitely a need for a playmaker on offense.. Jarrett / Rice / Meachem / Bowe one of them.

[regoob2]

The Bears should address the offense the first round. They don't need a TE, Clark is very productive and is a excellent blocker. At reciever, they are deep with muhammed, berrain, bradley and davis. I think the only way to improve on offense is to select with the 31st pick:

FB Brian Leonard-Rutgers- He can help the Bears with a threat to catch out of the backfield and FB is the Bears only weakness I see

Then early in the second round they can address there depth at OG and select with the 37th overall pick:

OG Ben Grubbs- Auburn- A very solid guard with the right height and size and agility. A three year starter with Auburn, has been very durable and excellent blocker.

Before the Adam Archuletta trade, I wanted the Bears to get S Michael Griffin, he reminds me of Mike Brown. But they clearly addressed the depth at the S position.

In the later rounds, i can see the Bears address the RB position and TE and the depth at DT

were not deep at all at receiver thats only 4 and davis can definetly be replaced and bradley keeps getting hurt, and moose is under productive so that leaves berrian. and why would we draft a rb/fb that high just to catch balls out of the backfield? we need a playmaker on O and i still hope that greg olsen falls, but bowe or jarrett seem at this point be possibly be there and if they are i think we should take one of them

[gerky]

ok, olsen is not falling to the bottom half of the 1st round, if he did, he is only good for receiving and the bears are obviously a running offense. what i meant by deep is they have talent at the position and drafting a receiver high would be useless and a waste of talent. muhammed is a productive receiver and our only possesion receiver. while berrain is a deep threat and can possibly be moved to the slot position.

brian leonard is 1st round talent. he is a hybrid and can both play the running back position and the fullback position. the bears have no depth at fb with mckie being the starter and runnells and johnson always injury prone. i still think it would be a wise choice for the bears to select him with one of there two first picks.

in the third round the bears can add to there depth at receiver or tightend with johnnie lee higgins or steve smith at reciever or matt spaeth or joe newtion.

in the 4th round i like the prospect out of new mexico quincy black, reminds me of a lot like urlacher.

[regoob2]

so your saying adding a fourth FB is more important than a fifth receiver

[blkwdw13]

Runnels wasn't on the the injured list he was just deactivated for the games.

[Smokey Joe]

Right now S and DT aren't first day needs anymore. I would like to say that OT would be the first round need, but if Staley isn't there, which is very likely, there isn't value. The nearest value after Staley would be Ugoh, but he isn't worth it, but I doubt he makes it to 37. With Brown re-signed, OG is only a need at 37, at the earliest. If Ben Grubbs or Ryan Kalil are at there at 37, you cant pass them, IMO. Right now, it seems like WR will be our best option at 31...

[Bearsfan123]

the only thing i disagree with is that DT and S arent first day needs anymore. More depth is still needed at both IMO.

S: AA, Mike Brown, Danieal Manning, Chris Harris, Brandon McGowan. Harris is a crappy version of Brown (by a large margin), Manning has to learn how to tackle (but overall still has a ton of potential), McGowan IMO is probably the best suited to take over for Brown except OH, hes just like Brown in getting hurt at least once a year. So we have AA, Mike Brown, Danieal Manning. Nothing else.

DT:Tommie H, Dusty D, Tank Johnson, Adams, Antonio Garay, and Israel Idonije could play if necessary. Tommies coming off a serious injury, Dusty is an unknown (not that another rookie wouldnt be but competition could help), Tank is tank and will most likely do something stupid and get suspended, Adams is an unknown in our system (tho he is a proven vet), Garay is really nothing more than a backup (with some potential but nothing spectacular), and Idonije is a DE that is big enough to play DT. Do we have enough bodies? Yes, but are they quality? Thats the question i worry about. Will Tommie return to full strength, is Dusty going to be any good, will Tank stay out of trouble, and will Adams fit our system? Those are the questions I have, and we wont have answers until training camp.

Edit: Nvm Safety. the Carter signing helps i guess.

[Smokey Joe]

Where would a DT fit in though? Tommie, Tank, Adams, and Dusty are locks to make the team, obviously, and the org. is very high on Garay.

[pellepelle_10]

Where would a DT fit in though? Tommie, Tank, Adams, and Dusty are locks to make the team, obviously, and the org. is very high on Garay.

Dusty isn't a gaurantee until he plays. As far as I'm concerned he's just an iff right now. I'd like to see him blow up but we don't know what he's capable of yet. I don't think it would be bad to bring in a 3rd-7th rounder to the team just incase.

[gerky]

the bears have the talent on offense and defense to return to the Super Bowl. they need consistent qb play and cedric benson needs to step up this year and be the every down back. the only problem i have on offense is grossman. when he was tearing it up early in '06, the bears were unstoppable. but when he started to suck, then there came problems on offense.

tightend is not a weak spot for the bears. desmond clark provides great run blocking for the bears. he also has consistent hands and the bears aren't going to stretch the field with a tightend. maybe there is a question of depth at tightend but that should not be addressed on the first day of the draft.

[regoob2]

i dont know why everyones saying hes a great run blocker, he is above average not great

[gerky]

dude you have no idea what your talking about. desmond clark is an excellent run blocker. he is certainly better than any other tightend they can pick up in the draft. he had some key blocks against seattle, new orleans and indianapolis in the playoffs.

[regoob2]

hes not excellent though, hes a solid run blocker for a TE, eric beverly, kleinsasser (sp?) are excellent, des gets overpowered by bigger guys, he got his weight down to 249 this year, ya he had a lot of key blocks but as a whole i wouldnt say excellent, there are a lot of TE that are better blockers

[BUSTKUNTLAWL]

Jarrett ran a 4.67 and a 4.62 @ his pro day..

That's not good..

Could he possibly fall to #37?

[Bearsfan123]

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NYmoney]

Jarrett ran a 4.67 and a 4.62 @ his pro day..

That's not good..

Could he possibly fall to #37?

wow. WOW

10 chara

[bearsfan_51]

That's not bad for his stock really, I think that's about what most people expected. He's still a late 1st, maybe early 2nd guy. But I wouldn't be shocked if a team like the Cowboys take him off of big name and production in the mid to late 1st.

[pellepelle_10]

That's not bad for his stock really, I think that's about what most people expected. He's still a late 1st, maybe early 2nd guy. But I wouldn't be shocked if a team like the Cowboys take him off of big name and production in the mid to late 1st.

If he falls thats good news for us. When Anquan Boldin ran a 4.71 people did him the same way. Now they're all kicking themselves in the ass. Talent is talent. The guy has a great work ethic and is a danger in the redzone. He runs solid routes and plays well. Possibly the best possession receiver we had (Bobby Engram who has just been considered higher than injured Darrell Jackson) ran a 4.8 40. Apparently he's not having a problem keeping his job in Seattle. Again production is what should be looked at. Not a 40 time. Baltimore was probably thanking analysts for dogging Terrell Suggs out so they could get him and reap the benefits. Apparently his lackluster 40 and weak bench isn't preventing him from racking up sacks now. Seems as though his performance carried well into the pro's while nobody is speaking a word about his 4.9-4.9 40.

[Bighead734]

Jarrett ran a 4.67! Great! That means teams will put a lot of stock in it and pass on him. If he falls to #31, he would be a steal. The kid showed he was a heckuva WR at USC for two years with two different QBs. The kids hands are phenomenal and he's pretty athletic too. He won't be a Randy Moss guy, but the best WRs don't really have outstanding straightline speed (Holt, Harrison, Fitzgerald, etc.).

[KBear]

He ran as fast as I think people expected him to run. Was anyone really thinking of him running a 4.5? I wasn't. 4.67 was the slowest of his two 40s, and thats about where I would think he would run, maybe a tad slower, but we are talking tenths of a second here. I really dont think he helped his stock, but I also dont think he really hurt his draft stock either. He might slip a few spots, but that can be expected anyway due to the amount of good WRs in this draft.

[pellepelle_10]

He ran as fast as I think people expected him to run. Was anyone really thinking of him running a 4.5? I wasn't. 4.67 was the slowest of his two 40s, and thats about where I would think he would run, maybe a tad slower, but we are talking tenths of a second here. I really dont think he helped his stock, but I also dont think he really hurt his draft stock either. He might slip a few spots, but that can be expected anyway due to the amount of good WRs in this draft.

Hey if we can have our version of Herman Moore trust me I'm not complaining one bit. LOL!

[ChiFan24]

Here's my ideal scenario as far as Briggs goes. The mock is based on what I think Angelo would do:


Bears trade Lance Briggs and #37 to Washington for #6 and OLB Rocky McIntosh (Angelo is going to RAPE Snyder. Just watch)

Bears trade #6 to Buffalo for #12, #74, #92, and a sixth. Buffalo takes AD.

R1a: Levi Brown, OT, Penn State
R1b: Dwane Jarrett, WR, USC
R3a: Lorenzo Booker, RB, Florida State
R3b: Andy Alleman, OG, Akron
R3c: Martrez Milner, TE, Georgia
R4: C.J. Gaddis, CB, Clemson
R5: Eric Frampton, S, Washington State
R6: Dallas Sartz, OLB, USC
R7a: Jeremy Clark, DT, Alabama
R7b: Stephon Heyer, OT, Maryland

[85ers]

Here's my ideal scenario as far as Briggs goes. The mock is based on what I think Angelo would do:


Bears trade Lance Briggs and #37 to Washington for #6 and OLB Rocky McIntosh (Angelo is going to RAPE Snyder. Just watch)
That trade would be great but I don't see the deal be anywhere near that lobsided. But I'll take your word for it and just watch.

[regoob2]

[QUOTE=ChiFan24;267771]Here's my ideal scenario as far as Briggs goes. The mock is based on what I think Angelo would do:


Bears trade Lance Briggs and #37 to Washington for #6 and OLB Rocky McIntosh (Angelo is going to RAPE Snyder. Just watch)

Bears trade #6 to Buffalo for #12, #74, #92, and a sixth. Buffalo takes AD.

i cant imagine them throwing in Mcintosh and i think we'd have to give up the 31st also, but if we had the 6th and AD was there i could see buffalo trading up.

[pellepelle_10]

Here's my ideal scenario as far as Briggs goes. The mock is based on what I think Angelo would do:


Bears trade Lance Briggs and #37 to Washington for #6 and OLB Rocky McIntosh (Angelo is going to RAPE Snyder. Just watch)

Bears trade #6 to Buffalo for #12, #74, #92, and a sixth. Buffalo takes AD.

R1a: Levi Brown, OT, Penn State
R1b: Dwane Jarrett, WR, USC
R3a: Lorenzo Booker, RB, Florida State
R3b: Andy Alleman, OG, Akron
R3c: Martrez Milner, TE, Georgia
R4: C.J. Gaddis, CB, Clemson
R5: Eric Frampton, S, Washington State
R6: Dallas Sartz, OLB, USC
R7a: Jeremy Clark, DT, Alabama
R7b: Stephon Heyer, OT, Maryland

Bears | Team may ask for Golston in Briggs trade
Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:56:02 -0700

Howard Bryant, of the Washington Post, reports the Chicago Bears may ask for Washington Redskins DT Kedric Golston in a counteroffer of the trade involving LB Lance Briggs.


Bears | Team may ask for McIntosh in Briggs trade
Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:53:10 -0700

Howard Bryant, of the Washington Post, reports the Chicago Bears may ask for Washington Redskins LB Rocky McIntosh in a counteroffer of the trade involving LB Lance Briggs.


Bears | Team may ask for Marshall in Briggs trade
Mon, 2 Apr 2007 14:43:29 -0700

Howard Bryant, of the Washington Post, reports the Chicago Bears may ask for Washington Redskins LB Lemar Marshall in a counteroffer of the trade involving LB Lance Briggs.

[bearsfan_51]

Larry: I have heard a lot about how the Bears need a tight end and an offensive lineman, and I agree they do need to address those positions. But I also think that the Bears need a wide receiver. If you agree, in what round should the Bears pick a wide receiver in the draft?

Jake H.
Warrenville, Illinois

Jake: You’re definitely on the same page as Ron Turner. When asked at the fan convention to identify his wish list heading into the draft, the Bears offensive coordinator mentioned a play-making receiver with speed, some good young linemen and another playmaking tight end, in that order. Turner is seeking a fast receiver who could be groomed to play opposite the speedy Bernard Berrian. While Turner said that No. 1 receiver Muhsin Muhammad “is a great player and he’s going to continue to be,” the offensive coordinator also stated that “we need somebody on the outside that can stretch the field with Bernard, so if they do want to double him, we can make them pay on the other side.” In terms of when the Bears should select a receiver, I would hope that it would occur on the first day of the draft.

[SFbear]

Larry: I have heard a lot about how the Bears need a tight end and an offensive lineman, and I agree they do need to address those positions. But I also think that the Bears need a wide receiver. If you agree, in what round should the Bears pick a wide receiver in the draft?

Jake H.
Warrenville, Illinois

Jake: You’re definitely on the same page as Ron Turner. When asked at the fan convention to identify his wish list heading into the draft, the Bears offensive coordinator mentioned a play-making receiver with speed, some good young linemen and another playmaking tight end, in that order. Turner is seeking a fast receiver who could be groomed to play opposite the speedy Bernard Berrian. While Turner said that No. 1 receiver Muhsin Muhammad “is a great player and he’s going to continue to be,” the offensive coordinator also stated that “we need somebody on the outside that can stretch the field with Bernard, so if they do want to double him, we can make them pay on the other side.” In terms of when the Bears should select a receiver, I would hope that it would occur on the first day of the draft.

ZOMG!!!!! weR gonna DRAFT CALVIN JOHSNONs. PURE PWNAGE!!!!

I guess we have all been assuming that the Bears would look for a taller more physical guy. It would explain why the organization has been so patient with Airese Currie despite his complete inability to contribute anything to the team. Id prefer someone who could be more of a redzone target but I suppose a TE could fit that niche.

[pellepelle_10]

Larry: I have heard a lot about how the Bears need a tight end and an offensive lineman, and I agree they do need to address those positions. But I also think that the Bears need a wide receiver. If you agree, in what round should the Bears pick a wide receiver in the draft?

Jake H.
Warrenville, Illinois

Jake: You’re definitely on the same page as Ron Turner. When asked at the fan convention to identify his wish list heading into the draft, the Bears offensive coordinator mentioned a play-making receiver with speed, some good young linemen and another playmaking tight end, in that order. Turner is seeking a fast receiver who could be groomed to play opposite the speedy Bernard Berrian. While Turner said that No. 1 receiver Muhsin Muhammad “is a great player and he’s going to continue to be,” the offensive coordinator also stated that “we need somebody on the outside that can stretch the field with Bernard, so if they do want to double him, we can make them pay on the other side.” In terms of when the Bears should select a receiver, I would hope that it would occur on the first day of the draft.

Good stuff Bearsfan!

I wonder if this would rule out Dwayne Jarrett if he fell to us?

If they're speaking of play-making receivers I would have to say Meachem, Bowe, Jarrett (although he doesn't possess a ton of speed he will create matchup problems), Hill, and Smith could fit that mold. I really hope we snatch Hill.

[VoteLynnSwan]

as fast as Hill may have run at the combine... he's not a burner, neither are Smith, Bowe, Jarrett, or Meachem. In fact the only burner in the first two rounds is probably Ted Ginn. I really doubt that we go with a burner at WR though, that wouldn't make much sense especially now with Devin Hester looking to play some offense.

[pellepelle_10]

as fast as Hill may have run at the combine... he's not a burner, neither are Smith, Bowe, Jarrett, or Meachem. In fact the only burner in the first two rounds is probably Ted Ginn. I really doubt that we go with a burner at WR though, that wouldn't make much sense especially now with Devin Hester looking to play some offense.

Nobody is implying that these guys are burners Swan. I will say Hill has done an excellent job of breaking open plays. the guys career avg is 18 something per catch. That says alot. While the Pac-10 has been soso for coverage he's done a good job of breaking long plays. Smith is more of a possession wr. I'm shocked at his 4.4 time (and maybe he worked on it during the offseason). I think Smith can become a solid Possession WR. As for Meachem I think he could end up being a solid deep threat with Bowe being more of an in between WR.

[bearsfan_51]

Devin Hester will never be anything more than a gimmick on offense. Expecting more than 15-20 catches is crazy talk.