View Full Version : Jonathan Stewart to need surgery...
BroadwayJoe10
03-12-2008, 08:52 PM
"NFL Network's Mike Mayock reports that Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart may need surgery on his big toe. The procedure would keep him out four to six months.
Stewart suffered a turf toe injury in November and didn't miss any games. He also ran the forty at the Combine, but performed no shuttle or cone drills. In the meantime, he had MRIs done and doctors recommended he undergo surgery. Individual teams will evaluate whether surgery is required. Expected to be a first-round pick, his stock will fall dramatically with any team who"
Depending on the severity of the toe surgery it is very possible that this could drop him out of the first round. I'm not sure whether it's a chronic condition, but stewart has always had that knock on him for not being able to stay healthy and toe injuries can often times be career altering.
stephenson86
03-12-2008, 08:55 PM
fall to tennesse in the second yeh?
neko4
03-12-2008, 08:56 PM
i hope he doesnt get bumped like Dorsey for an injury i think will be temporary and only effect him during his first year
eaglesalltheway
03-12-2008, 08:57 PM
This is not good for his stock, that is for sure, but I guess it is best that he gets it out of the way now, so he at least has a chance of playing, but I don't know how much it will affect his stock. I would guess he is still a late first to mid-second, where he would have not gone anywhere later than the beginning of the second before, but I guess it all depends on the severity and how the surgury goes.
No way this bumps an elite talent like Stewart out of the first. At worst this probably shifts him from a mid-first grade to a late-first now.
stephenson86
03-12-2008, 09:02 PM
be nasty if the chargers got him
BroadwayJoe10
03-12-2008, 09:03 PM
I'm surprised this didn't come out sooner, but toe injuries are always a pain, because they tend to be chronic. It will be eager to see what type of injury it is and whether the team gets him the surgery right away or postpones it.
I can't think of what type of injury it would be other than turf toe; I'm not sure whether or not he's had turf toe before, but after rehab and rest it can return. Rehabilitation is usually very slow as well. Now, surgery is very rarely needed to treat turf toe, but in severe chronic cases it can be a good idea. What generally happens is the surgery is used to remove a bone spur and the recovery for that is usually 4 months.
There are other possibilies of toe injuries, but im more of a knee and shoulder guy and am only familiar with turf toe.
BaLLiN
03-12-2008, 09:03 PM
That stinks, he had a great showing at the combine, and this totally messes up his stock
OregonDucks
03-12-2008, 09:06 PM
He did half the season on that toe, I really dont think it will kill him in the draft. I guess we will see tho.
GaMeTiMe
03-12-2008, 09:07 PM
If he gets the surgery, I may just give up on mock drafts this year. There's no telling what all the different teams will think about him
regoob2
03-12-2008, 09:10 PM
I don't think he'll drop far cause of it. He played through it and still ran a solid time at the combine, shows toughness imo.
San Diego Chicken
03-12-2008, 09:10 PM
This really shouldn't affect him that much unless the teams looking at him don't have any stones. He still produced big time even with the toe problem. Would have been interesting to see his times if he were 100%.
Thunder&Lightning
03-12-2008, 09:21 PM
I doubt this effects his stock that much. If it actually does and he drops to late 1st/ 2nd then some team is going to get a steal.
OregonDucks
03-12-2008, 09:23 PM
I agree thunder. I kinda hope he does drop...to my raiders.
Young Legend
03-12-2008, 09:25 PM
four to six months ouch..But I have A hard time seeing him fall to the second round..
BaLLiN
03-12-2008, 09:27 PM
Well they said that Adrian Peterson would need surgery originally, maybe something like this can happen to J-Stew?
toonsterwu
03-12-2008, 09:29 PM
I really don't expect him to drop that much, but that might be because he was still more of a mid-first at best for me ( I know some had him higher). I don't expect him to make it out of the first ... unless this is a serious issue. If this is, then all bet's are off, although early 2nd at latest.
keylime_5
03-12-2008, 10:00 PM
He's not gonna drop out of the first round, let's not get crazy here. The draft is about the long run not the rookie year anyways. Stewart is still gonna be the 3rd back drafted and a mid to late first rounder.
Cashmoney
03-12-2008, 10:03 PM
If he went ahead and got the surgery really soon, he'd prob be ready to go for the opener if it only took him 4 or 5 months.
iloxygenil
03-12-2008, 10:09 PM
I think people are making too much of this, I think he'll still be the 3rd back taken in the mid/late first. Doesn't change much for me. Great back, wasn't going to be a top 10 guy anyway, and the fact that he played through it already just goes to show you that he'll be just fine. I think him missing a little bit of time won't hurt his stock. A lot of folks hold out now a days anyway.
bored of education
03-12-2008, 10:11 PM
Sucks for him, yet with the two back model that is loved by most...i could see a team grabbing him anytime in the late 1st. So i Doubt he falls out the 1st.
Iamcanadian
03-12-2008, 10:44 PM
Teams drafting very late in the 1st often have an opportunity to draft an injured player who might otherwise have gone much higher. Generally it depends on the overall strength of a particular draft whether they actually do so. Many a star has slipped to early round 2 with injury concerns. it just makes the draft that much more interesting.
Ware_HITStick
03-12-2008, 10:49 PM
Dallas at 22? Or maybe, wishful thinking, 28!
iloxygenil
03-12-2008, 11:59 PM
I'll be shocked if Dallas actually holds the 22nd pick in the draft...
Im_a_Romosexual
03-13-2008, 12:09 AM
I'll be shocked if Dallas actually holds the 22nd pick in the draft...
I'm with you there. If DRC is available we probably take him, but if Stewart (speculation about injury dropping him) is there I see a deal last year where we get an extra first next year and hopefully Taylor Mays/ whomever
LonghornsLegend
03-13-2008, 01:49 AM
I think the Seattle Seahawks just got extremely happy with this news, they are all over it if he is there....Dallas isnt looking at Stewart, were looking for a change of pace back, im almost positive we dont spend a 1st on a rb just like barber except a little faster.
Shouldn't hurt his stock much.. any team that was looking at him should already know that he's got a problem with minor injuries.
theogt
03-13-2008, 11:56 AM
I'll be shocked if Dallas actually holds the 22nd pick in the draft...Dallas has set up visits with DRC, Cason, and Talib, so they're going to take a 1st round corner. It'll most likely be one taken with the #22 rather than #28 unless corners end up dropping unexpectedly in the draft (i.e., none taken in first 18 or so picks).
iloxygenil
03-13-2008, 03:27 PM
Dallas has set up visits with DRC, Cason, and Talib, so they're going to take a 1st round corner. It'll most likely be one taken with the #22 rather than #28 unless corners end up dropping unexpectedly in the draft (i.e., none taken in first 18 or so picks).
I'll still be shocked if they're sitting at #22, you can quote me if you want, but I'd be amazed to see them hold that pick. You want my honest opinion? Deangelo Hall will be a Cowboy, why you ask? Because they're going to take a corner in the first round why not take a guy who if he were in this year's draft would be a mortal lock to go #1 overall...by far the most talented player in the pool of players available and just think, he'll get his freak athlete and help his pathetic secondary at the same time. Which would you rather have a rookie or a 2 time pro bowler for the same selection?
foozball
03-13-2008, 03:49 PM
jstew had surgery already. i dont think his stock will drop any. they say recovery can take 4-6 weeks to 4-6 months.
He had the surgery on his big toe and is out 4-6 months. How much do you think this will affect his current draft status? I currently have him falling to Dallas at #28 and I was hesitant to put him there because of the similarities between him and MB3. Thoughts?
LonghornsLegend
03-13-2008, 06:51 PM
Thats why I keep telling people no to Dallas, he's too much like Barber except faster, were looking for more of a contrast at rb, I think it makes Seattle a more likely destination now.
keylime_5
03-13-2008, 06:54 PM
It won't affect his draft status, but it might effect his rookie season a little.
BroadwayJoe10
03-13-2008, 07:19 PM
Turns out that he actually did undergo surgery. I'm still interested to see what type of surgery it was; my best bet was to remove a bone spur that was caused by chronic turf toe, but that's just a shot in the dark really. Maybe some oregon fans know more about his injuries.
"NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports Oregon RB Jonathan Stewart underwent surgery on his big toe Wednesday. He'll be out four to six months.
If Stewart heals quickly, he'll have a chance to be ready before the start of training camp. Still, Stewart will miss all pre-camp work and his draft status will likely be affected severely. It's a somewhat similar situation to Adrian Peterson's in 2007, but Stewart's potential isn't on that level. It wouldn't be a surprise to see him fall to round two." per rotoworld
Edit: Turns out it was indeed a stress fracture, which is somewhat similar to the turf toe injury. Shouldn't lead to chronic pain, but it is always a problem for athletes of his size pounding the ground like he does day in and day out.
Good to see he's already had surgery so that he will recover in time for training camp. Obviously he'll still show up to rookie camps and OTAs, learning to digest the offense.
I don't think it should hurt him, but that's me. I'm sure some "anonymous source" will comment about it through SI two weeks from the draft, to spew out BS so that hopefully he can fall to their pick. The usual ****, like the "back issues" and "red flags" Marshawn Lynch suddenly had right before the Draft, and so on.
andyjo672
03-14-2008, 03:19 PM
Does this hurt his draft stock severely or not at all in your opinion. 6 months is a long time to miss.
initial_flo
03-15-2008, 02:55 AM
I really doubt that he'd fall out the 1st, according to the Willis McGahee theory anyway...
It might help Mendenhall or maybe even Felix Jones in terms of their specific draft status me thinks.
bhaarat316
03-15-2008, 03:42 AM
Toe injures are a big deal, in order for it to heal fully back to your top speed, you need to stay off of it, and its almost impossible to stay off your feet. He will drop to bottom of the first.
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