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fed36
03-16-2008, 02:53 AM
There are three trades (my first attempt of a mock with trades)

TRADE #1 Washington trades #21, #51 for Oakland’s #4

TRADE #2 Dallas trades #22, #28 to New York Jets for #6

TRADE #3 Minnesota trades #17, #47, for Baltimore’s #8

ROUND ONE
1) Miami Dolphins - Jake Long OT Michigan
2) St. Louis Rams - Chris Long DE Virginia
3) Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan QB Boston College
4) Washington Redskins ***VIA TRADE W/OAK*** - Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State
5) Kansas City Chiefs - Leodis McKlevin CB Troy
6) Dallas Cowboys *** VIA TRADE W/JETS*** - Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
7) New England Patriots - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee State
8) Minnesota Vikings ***VIA TRADE W/BAL*** - Phillip Merling DE Clemson
9) Cincinnati Bengals - Glen Dorsey DT LSU
10) New Orleans Saints - Keith Rivers OLB USC
11) Buffalo Bills - Mike Jenkins CB South Florida
12) Denver Broncos - Sedric Ellis DT USC
13) Carolina Panthers - Kenny Phillips S Miami
14) Chicago Bears - Ryan Clady OT Boise State
15) Detroit Lions - Derrick Harvey DE Florida
16) Arizona Cardinals - Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon
17) Baltimore Ravens *** VIA TRADE W/MIN*** - Brian Brohm QB Louisville
18) Houston Texans - Reggie Smith CB Oklahoma
19) Philadelphia Eagles - DeSean Jackson WR California
20) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Kentwan Balmer DT North Carolina
21) Oakland Raiders ***VIA TRADE W/WAS*** - Limas Sweed WR Texas
22) New York Jets *** VIA TRADE W/DAL *** - Branden Albert OG Virginia
23) Pittsburgh Steelers - Chilo Rachal OG USC
24) Tennessee Titans - Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma
25) Seattle Seahawks - Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois
26) Jacksonville Jaguars - Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh
27) San Diego Chargers - Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt
28) New York Jets *** VIA TRADE W/DAL*** - Dan Connor ILB Penn State
29) San Francisco 49ers - Quentin Groves DE Auburn
30) Green Bay Packers - Fred Davis TE USC
31) New York Giants - Gosder Cherilus OT Boston College

ROUND TWO
1) Miami Dolphins - Jerod Mayo ILB Tennessee
2) St. Louis Rams - Erin Henderson OLB Maryland
3) Oakland Raiders - Calais Campbell DE Miami
4) Kansas City Chiefs - Sam Baker OT USC
5) New York Jets - Dustin Keller TE Purdue
6) Atlanta Falcons - Carl Nicks OT Nebraska
7) Baltimore Ravens - Patrick Lee CB Auburn
8) San Francisco 49ers - Mario Manningham WR Michigan
9) New Orleans Saints - Antoine Cason CB Arizona
10) Buffalo Bills - Devin Thomas WR Michigan State
11) Denver Broncos - Heath Benedict OT Newberry
12) Carolina Panthers - Oniel Cousins OT UTEP
13) Chicago Bears - Roy Schuening OG Oregon State
14) Detroit Lions - Cliff Avril DE/OLB Purdue
15) Cincinnati Bengals - John Carlson TE Notre Dame
16) Baltimore Ravens ***VIA TRADE W/MIN*** - Tavares Gooden OLB Miami
17) Atlanta Falcons - Red Bryant DT Texas A & M
18) Philadelphia Eagles - DuJuan Morgan S North Carolina State
19) Arizona Cardinals - Lawrence Jackson DE USC
20) Oakland Raiders *** VIA TRADE W/WAS*** - Pat Sims DT Auburn
21) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - James Hardy WR Indiana
22) Pittsburgh Steelers - Jason Jones DE Eastern Michigan
23) Tennessee Titans - Trevor Laws DT Notre Dame
24) Seattle Seahawks - Martellus Bennett TE Texas A&M
25) Green Bay Packers - Justin King CB Penn St
26) Miami Dolphins - Curtis Lofton ILB Oklahoma
27) Jacksonville Jaguars – Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech
28) Indianapolis Colts - Felix Jones RB Arkansas
29) Green Bay Packers - Tracey Porter CB Indiana
30) Dallas Cowboys - Justin King CB Penn State
31) New England Patriots - Curtis Lofton ILB Oklahoma
32) New York Giants - Thomas DeCoud S California

ROUND THREE
1) Miami Dolphins - Joe Flacco QB Delaware
2) St. Louis Rams - Early Doucet WR LSU
3) Kansas City Chiefs - Felix Jones RB Arkansas
4) Carolina Panthers - Chris Johnson RB East Carolina
5) Atlanta Falcons - Phillip Wheeler ILB Georgia Tech
6) New England Patriots - Charles Godfrey CB Iowa
7) San Francisco 49ers - Chad Henne QB Michigan
8) Buffalo Bills - Lavelle Hawkins WR California
9) Jacksonville Jaguars - Jonathan Goff ILB Vanderbilt
10) Minnesota Vikings - Andre Caldwell WR Florida
11) Carolina Panthers - Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech
12) Chicago Bears - Ray Rice RB Rutgers
13) Detroit Lions - Marcus Harrison DT Arkansas
14) Cincinnati Bengals - Xavier Adibi OLB Virginia Tech
15) New Orleans Saints - Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt
16) Houston Texans - Brandon Flowers CB Virginia Tech
17) Philadelphia Eagles - Matt Forte RB Tulane
18) Arizona Cardinals - Tyvone Branch CB Connecticut
19) Minnesota Vikings - Tony Hills OT Texas
20) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Darrell Robertson DE Georgia Tech
21) Washington Redskins - Eric Young OG Tennessee
22) Tennessee Titans - Kendall Langford DE Hampton
23) Seattle Seahawks - Dre Moore DT Maryland
24) Detroit Lions - Drew Radovich OG USC
25) Pittsburgh Steelers - Mike Pollak C Arizona State
26) Jacksonville Jaguars - Kevin Smith RB Central Florida
27) Chicago Bears - Donnie Avery WR Houston
28) Green Bay Packers - Jamaal Charles RB Texas
29) Dallas Cowboys - Peyton Hillis FB Arkansas
30) Indianapolis Colts - Wallace Gilberry DE Alabama
31) New England Patriots - Tom Zbikowski S Notre Dame
32) New York Giants - Geno Hayes OLB Florida State

Crazy_Chris
03-16-2008, 03:05 AM
Why would the Vikings trad up that far when there is a decent chance that he will be there at #17? Hell even if Merling were to go before #17 it would still make more sense to just stay there and then take Chris Williams and then draft Lawrence Jackson in round 2.

I like the creativity but a trade that would make more sense for the Vikings would be to send one of their 3rd round picks to the Bills/Panthers in order to move up and make sure they get Derrick Harvey.

Menardo75
03-16-2008, 03:27 AM
Your top ten trades dont make much sense. Why would the Redskins trade up that high to draft a guy that does not fit their defense. The Cowboys trade could happen but it would probably happen with the Raiders. Philp Merling? He is a late first round pick why would a team trade up into the top ten to draft him? You might need to take a look at your value charts.

BaLLiN
03-16-2008, 08:35 AM
I dont really like any pick in this giants draft

Cherilus - RT (we would want to draft a LT and he isnt good enough for that yet and maybe never)

Decoud- S (I dont think we'd draft him because he really wasnt productive throughout his career and thats alot of what we look for)

Hayes- (Very undersized LB, plays with tenacity, quick, he's an alright pick by me)

Bills2083
03-16-2008, 08:49 AM
1.) Mike Jenkins - Great Pick
2.) Devin Thomas - OK pick. I think I'd rather go with James Hardy.
3.) Lavelle Hawkins - Bad pick. I have no idea why you gave us another WR here. TE is our largest need after WR/CB. I'd rather go with Jermichael Finley or Martin Rucker.

Dam8610
03-16-2008, 08:52 AM
Wow, Felix Jones can play for the Colts AND Chiefs? He must be the best RB ever. Seriously though, it's alright, but not great. I'd prefer a DT with that 2nd round pick, i.e. Dre Moore. By the way, you also have Chris Ellis playing for the Jaguars and Panthers.

Matthew Jones
03-16-2008, 08:57 AM
Rivers over Cromartie and it's good for the Patriots, I guess.

T-RICH49
03-16-2008, 09:24 AM
Leodis McKelvin is NOT worth the 5th overall pick.Glenn Dorsey or Sedric Ellis instead

Jakey
03-16-2008, 09:28 AM
I would much prefer Williams or Otah over Rachal in the 1st. We could prolly land Rachal in the 2nd.

TimD
03-16-2008, 09:36 AM
I don't like any pick that you have the Jets taking.

22) New York Jets *** VIA TRADE W/DAL *** - Branden Albert OG Virginia

We have Faneca and Moore (2 very capable guards) and then Woody and Wade Smith who can play guard for depth. I know you're thinking that Albert would be the future but we don't need to draft a future guard in the 1st round nearly 2 years before he's going to be handed the reigns.

28) New York Jets *** VIA TRADE W/DAL*** - Dan Connor ILB Penn State

I understand why you made this pick, because of Vilma leaving, but we have 2 great starters in the inside with Barton and Harris plus Calvin Pace can play inside. ILB is not a more important need than OLB, WR, DL, or CB.

5) New York Jets - Dustin Keller TE Purdue

Although I really like Keller and TE is a need for us it is not more important than the 4 I just listed. This draft has us completely ignoring our top 4 needs.

If I was you this would have been my Jets picks.

1. 22 - Malcolm Kelly WR
1. 28 - Quentin Groves OLB/DE
2. 5 - Antoine Cason CB or Dre Moore DL

BeerBaron
03-16-2008, 10:16 AM
that is a pretty good bears draft, i like it. the o-line gets beefed up and we get some help at rb and wr.

ill buy it

hugegmenfan
03-16-2008, 10:30 AM
eh bad giants draft

dont really like anything in it as ballin72 said also.

also the jets drafting another olineman would seem sorta silly- they just spent a ton of money on woody and faneca to soldify it

Yatta!
03-16-2008, 10:31 AM
You have Curtis Lofton and Felix Jones in twice and no Aqib Talib.

Thunder&Lightning
03-16-2008, 10:46 AM
i really like the sd pick williams is a steal there.

fed36
03-16-2008, 10:54 AM
I have removed the extra Felix Jones and Curtis Lofton



There are three trades (my first attempt of a mock with trades)

TRADE #1 Washington trades #21, #51 for Oakland’s #4

TRADE #2 Dallas trades #22, #28 to New York Jets for #6

TRADE #3 Minnesota trades #17, #47, for Baltimore’s #8

ROUND ONE
1) Miami Dolphins - Jake Long OT Michigan
2) St. Louis Rams - Chris Long DE Virginia
3) Atlanta Falcons - Matt Ryan QB Boston College
4) Washington Redskins ***VIA TRADE W/OAK*** - Vernon Gholston DE Ohio State
5) Kansas City Chiefs - Leodis McKlevin CB Troy
6) Dallas Cowboys *** VIA TRADE W/JETS*** - Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
7) New England Patriots - Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee State
8) Minnesota Vikings ***VIA TRADE W/BAL*** - Phillip Merling DE Clemson
9) Cincinnati Bengals - Glen Dorsey DT LSU
10) New Orleans Saints - Keith Rivers OLB USC
11) Buffalo Bills - Mike Jenkins CB South Florida
12) Denver Broncos - Sedric Ellis DT USC
13) Carolina Panthers - Kenny Phillips S Miami
14) Chicago Bears - Ryan Clady OT Boise State
15) Detroit Lions - Derrick Harvey DE Florida
16) Arizona Cardinals - Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon
17) Baltimore Ravens *** VIA TRADE W/MIN*** - Brian Brohm QB Louisville
18) Houston Texans - Reggie Smith CB Oklahoma
19) Philadelphia Eagles - DeSean Jackson WR California
20) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Kentwan Balmer DT North Carolina
21) Oakland Raiders ***VIA TRADE W/WAS*** - Limas Sweed WR Texas
22) New York Jets *** VIA TRADE W/DAL *** - Branden Albert OG Virginia
23) Pittsburgh Steelers - Chilo Rachal OG USC
24) Tennessee Titans - Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma
25) Seattle Seahawks - Rashard Mendenhall RB Illinois
26) Jacksonville Jaguars - Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh
27) San Diego Chargers - Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt
28) New York Jets *** VIA TRADE W/DAL*** - Dan Connor ILB Penn State
29) San Francisco 49ers - Quentin Groves DE Auburn
30) Green Bay Packers - Fred Davis TE USC
31) New York Giants - Gosder Cherilus OT Boston College

ROUND TWO
1) Miami Dolphins - Jerod Mayo ILB Tennessee
2) St. Louis Rams - Erin Henderson OLB Maryland
3) Oakland Raiders - Calais Campbell DE Miami
4) Kansas City Chiefs - Sam Baker OT USC
5) New York Jets - Dustin Keller TE Purdue
6) Atlanta Falcons - Carl Nicks OT Nebraska
7) Baltimore Ravens - Patrick Lee CB Auburn
8) San Francisco 49ers - Mario Manningham WR Michigan
9) New Orleans Saints - Antoine Cason CB Arizona
10) Buffalo Bills - Devin Thomas WR Michigan State
11) Denver Broncos - Heath Benedict OT Newberry
12) Carolina Panthers - Oniel Cousins OT UTEP
13) Chicago Bears - Roy Schuening OG Oregon State
14) Detroit Lions - Cliff Avril DE/OLB Purdue
15) Cincinnati Bengals - John Carlson TE Notre Dame
16) Baltimore Ravens ***VIA TRADE W/MIN*** - Tavares Gooden OLB Miami
17) Atlanta Falcons - Red Bryant DT Texas A & M
18) Philadelphia Eagles - DuJuan Morgan S North Carolina State
19) Arizona Cardinals - Lawrence Jackson DE USC
20) Oakland Raiders *** VIA TRADE W/WAS*** - Pat Sims DT Auburn
21) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - James Hardy WR Indiana
22) Pittsburgh Steelers - Jason Jones DE Eastern Michigan
23) Tennessee Titans - Trevor Laws DT Notre Dame
24) Seattle Seahawks - Martellus Bennett TE Texas A&M
25) Green Bay Packers - Justin King CB Penn St
26) Miami Dolphins - Curtis Lofton ILB Oklahoma
27) Jacksonville Jaguars – Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech
28) Indianapolis Colts - Felix Jones RB Arkansas
29) Green Bay Packers - Tracey Porter CB Indiana
30) Dallas Cowboys - Justin King CB Penn State
31) New England Patriots - Phillip Wheeler ILB Georgia Tech
32) New York Giants - Thomas DeCoud S California

ROUND THREE
1) Miami Dolphins - Joe Flacco QB Delaware
2) St. Louis Rams - Early Doucet WR LSU
3) Kansas City Chiefs - Chris Johnson RB East Carolina
4) Carolina Panthers - Ray Rice RB Rutgers
5) Atlanta Falcons - Jonathan Goff ILB Vanderbilt
6) New England Patriots - Charles Godfrey CB Iowa
7) San Francisco 49ers - Chad Henne QB Michigan
8) Buffalo Bills - Lavelle Hawkins WR California
9) Jacksonville Jaguars - Eric Young OG Tennessee
10) Minnesota Vikings - Andre Caldwell WR Florida
11) Carolina Panthers - Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech
12) Chicago Bears - Matt Forte RB Tulane
13) Detroit Lions - Marcus Harrison DT Arkansas
14) Cincinnati Bengals - Xavier Adibi OLB Virginia Tech
15) New Orleans Saints - Earl Bennett WR Vanderbilt
16) Houston Texans - Brandon Flowers CB Virginia Tech
17) Philadelphia Eagles - Kevin Smith RB Central Florida
18) Arizona Cardinals - Tyvone Branch CB Connecticut
19) Minnesota Vikings - Tony Hills OT Texas
20) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Darrell Robertson DE Georgia Tech
21) Washington Redskins - Drew Radovich OG USC
22) Tennessee Titans - Kendall Langford DE Hampton
23) Seattle Seahawks - Dre Moore DT Maryland
24) Detroit Lions - Donald Thomas OG Connecticut
25) Pittsburgh Steelers - Mike Pollak C Arizona State
26) Jacksonville Jaguars - Jamaal Charles RB Texas
27) Chicago Bears - Donnie Avery WR Houston
28) Green Bay Packers - Tashard Choice RB Georgia Tech
29) Dallas Cowboys - Peyton Hillis FB Arkansas
30) Indianapolis Colts - Wallace Gilberry DE Alabama
31) New England Patriots - Tom Zbikowski S Notre Dame
32) New York Giants - Geno Hayes OLB Florida State

Vikings4ever
03-16-2008, 10:58 AM
No way in hell the Vikes trade up for Merling, especially not to the 8 spot. There's a good shot he'll be there at 17.

skinzzfan25
03-16-2008, 11:40 AM
Damn, if we got Gholston that would be SICK.

I don't care if he doesn't fit our defense, we'll find a spot for him.

GB12
03-16-2008, 11:57 AM
Hate Fred Davis at 30
Really hate Justin King at 56 (You have him on the twice by the way to Green Bay and Dallas)
Not a big fan of Tracy Porter, but at 60 it's not that bad
Jamal Charles in the third is good

iowatreat54
03-16-2008, 01:10 PM
great Bears draft...I like the first version better just because I am more optimistic about Rice than Forte, but still great work overall

Yung Flippa
03-16-2008, 03:10 PM
Good 1st & 3rd for Houston.
Good Trade for Baltimore. HATE Baltimore's 1st Round pick, I really think Brian Brohm will be a flop, I'd rather have Reggie Smith. I like the Patrick Lee pick but I'd rather have Antonie Cason. LOVE Gooden to Baltimore!!!

thebow305
03-16-2008, 06:44 PM
I'm not a big fan of that miami draft at all. Flacco is the only decent pick, but it makes no sense for us to take TWO ILB's in the 2nd. Lofton would be fine at the end of round 2 and I would rather have Cason, Carlson, or Nicks at the top of round 2. Hate the jake long pick, would much rather have Chris or Vernon Gholston.

eaglesalltheway
03-16-2008, 08:39 PM
DeSean Jackson is a bad pick for the Eagles. It is good at addressing the position, but Sweed or Kelly are better options for the Eagles. I like you r second round pick for the Eagles, but would probably change the third to an OT.

619
03-16-2008, 08:42 PM
Raiders will get much more if they're going to move down that far imo.

Joeyjr09
03-16-2008, 08:50 PM
Why on earth would Miami draft 2 ILB's with Channing Crowder and Reggie Torbor already on the roster?

Have you ever seen a Trade Value Chart? Washington moves up to the number 4 overall pick by only giving up the number 21 and 51 overall picks?

Dude, the number 4 overall is worth 1,800. The number 21 and 51 combined are worth 1,190. Washington would have to give up the number 21 overall, the number 51 overall and a 2009 1st rounder to get close to what is considered fair value for the number 4 overall pick.

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/features/valuechart.html

If your gonna made trades, this is what you go off of. If the numbers are within the same ballpark then the trade is a horrible one. 1,800 and 1,190 are not even on the same planet, let alone the same ballpark.

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-16-2008, 08:50 PM
After spending as much money on WRs as we have I doubt we draft one in the 1st. Give us Albert.The other two picks are pretty good.

Seasonticketholder
03-17-2008, 08:44 AM
If Glenn Dorsey is sitting there at #8, the Saints would trade up to get him assuming the Bengals would want him. I do not know that they will given that they are running that hybrid 3-4 system. Ellis would be a better fit there than Dorsey because Ellis can play both the nose and 3-tech.

SmarterThanU
03-17-2008, 03:03 PM
TRADE #1 Washington trades #21, #51 for Oakland’s #4

What? This would be a horrible trade for Oakland. And if Dallas is trying to move up and use both their first round picks obviously Oakland would of jumped on their trade offer. Just ********. Horrible trade value unless the Skins throw in Clinton Portis.

TRADE #2 Dallas trades #22, #28 to New York Jets for #6

Dallas would have to throw in a third round pick too to make this an equal trade.

Vikings and Ravens trade looks about right.

If Branden Albert is gone I highly doubt they reach on Chilo Rachal. They need an OG actually less than an OT. They can move Willie Colon to LG if they drafted Jeff Otah to play RT.

Jason Jones doesn't fit the Steelers defense. Too small to play DE too big to play OLB. If Traver Laws who excelled in the 3-4 at Notre Dame was still on the board in the second the Steelers would jump on him.

Steelers aren't in need of a center. So if they go interior line at that point Jeremy Zuttah would be a nice pick. Dominated at OT in a small school but should excel at OG in the pros. Or I wouldn't mind seeing Jorsy Nelson WR Kansas St. there either.

Also, Felix Jones gets drafted twice.

Packman1957
03-18-2008, 04:48 PM
1 Keller over Davis in the 1st for the Pack

2a Not a big fan of him, right position though

2b Good Pick, only if we don't take a CB with 2a

3 Ahhh....no I see no reason to take a RB like him, the only RB I could see us taking is one that would be able to contribute immediately, which probably means one of the top ones.

Dr. Gonzo
03-18-2008, 08:50 PM
Merling is a gargage pick for the Vikings at 17 and he is even worse at 8. Just because Mayock says he is good doesn't mean he actually is. He is a horrible pick for what the Vikings need.

toddmlazarchick
03-19-2008, 08:50 PM
if only that could come true, but it will cost more then just a 2nd for the #4 pick. but it is the raiders, they are pretty dumb lol!