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dazuck
02-25-2007, 08:42 PM
FLETCHER OFF THE MARKET?

One of the hot rumors in Indy is that Bills linebacker London Fletcher already has struck a deal with the Washington Redskins.

Fletcher, a nine-year veteran who has played with the Rams and the Bills, was believed to be a target of the Redskins and the Lions, and possibly others.

Of course, even if the 'Skins and Fletcher have a deal, it doesn't mean that the arrangement is binding. Since any contact between a pending free agent and a different team is prohibited, there can be no binding contract at this point.

Last year, it was widely believed that the Eagles had an agreement in principle with center LeCharles Bentley, who made a beeline for Cleveland once the free-agency period started.

Link (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm)


Personally, I don't mind this move, but he is definatly an upgrade over the smaller and slower Marshall. And I think that PFT is just starting up stuff because they know that the Redskins are targeting Fletcher.

Damix
02-25-2007, 08:48 PM
Tampering charges?

Zim3031
02-25-2007, 08:50 PM
Tampering charges?

Based on a rumor? From PFT?

FloridaFootball
02-25-2007, 08:50 PM
PFT is full of it, always trying to make a story out of something.

Smooth Criminal
02-25-2007, 09:01 PM
I'm sure almost every potential FA has been contacted by teams. We'll see come FA period how true this is.

zoinks
02-25-2007, 09:03 PM
Even if it's true, this is so typical of Daniel Snyder....trying for a quick fix via free agency.

He'll eventually figure out that in this day and age, teams have to develop their own talent. Of course, by then they'll have traded away every draft pick until 2011.....

The Legend
02-25-2007, 09:07 PM
PFT is full of it, always trying to make a story out of something.

i hate that site

drmoyer421
02-25-2007, 09:22 PM
As A Bills fan.. THE SKINS CAN HAVE HIM!!
He is a great leader and a field general at that.. but he is not the solution at MLB and the Skins will find out once again. He is an acumulator in tackles. He tends to stay deep, and makes the tackles 6 yards after the line of scrimmage (most of the time taking the hit, other than giving it). He has a hard time shedding blockers like most undersized backers.

Again, as a Bills fan, i wouldnt mind him on my team for leadership and veteran mentality.. but I would not overpay for him. He is going to get money from name alone, cause he is not the player he once was.

The Bills do a GREAT job in letting big named veteran players go at the right time (excluding Pat Williams)

Drew Bledsoe - just think the Cowboys fans tried to rub it in so much and that he was thier savior!

Sam Adams - 10 tackles last year, ask any Bengals fans what they think of him

Troy Vincent - cut this season

Lawyer Milloy - hasnt played poorly for the falcons but he hasnt been himself, and they will be looking for his replacement this offseason.

Jeff Posey - didnt make team

Stash
02-25-2007, 09:30 PM
Don't the Redskins already have a good MLB?

Hines
02-25-2007, 09:35 PM
redskins r turnin into the yankees of football. they try to buy their team and they cant do crap when the season starts. no chemistry. it really irrates me sometimes. i guess theyre scared that they would have to develop real talent rather than spendin a bunch of money on players who dotn do crap (ie adam archeleta and antwaan randle el also shawn springs and troy vincent). they should take a page outta the patriots or the steelers books where they dont need to get high priced free agents to win. i know everyone will agree with me includin the redskins fans. cuz they will suffer threw a long time of losin the way they r goin

PalmerToCJ
02-25-2007, 09:39 PM
Eh, Sam Adams was hurt from the 3rd preseason game on... He wasn't horrendous but he said it really limited (I know he wasn't always the healthiest so that was part of why you all let him go I suppose). This year will tell if he was worth it or not, he did make some good plays.

Scotty D
02-25-2007, 09:57 PM
I hope this isn't true. I was hoping the Lions would get him.

TitleTown088
02-26-2007, 12:15 AM
The redskins go nuts in FA? No way.

Shiver
02-26-2007, 12:46 AM
The Redskins are one stupid organization to continue this idiotic 'strategy' of signing free agents at a whim.

toonsterwu
02-26-2007, 12:51 AM
PFT isn't as bad as it gets made out to be ... although sometimes, they do go overboard.

That said, this Fletcher-Baker rumor has been ongoing for awhile, and it wouldn't surprise me if it happened. I don't like it ... as I don't think he's a significant enough improvement over Lemar Marshall in the run to warrant spending big bucks (now, if he signs on the cheap, then yeah, solid move). I think Fletcher-Baker is an upgrade.

The interesting thing will be whether or not Washington can clear up money for Nate Clements. If signing Fletcher-Baker negates any chances of that, then poor move. If it has no impact, then signing for additional depth is fine.

BlindSite
02-26-2007, 02:43 AM
Even if it's true, this is so typical of Daniel Snyder....trying for a quick fix via free agency.

He'll eventually figure out that in this day and age, teams have to develop their own talent. Of course, by then they'll have traded away every draft pick until 2011.....

He won't apparently he's the biggest, most arrogant asshole in the NFL as an owner.

TheChampIsHere
02-26-2007, 02:59 AM
Don't the Redskins already have a good MLB?

Lemar Marshall is pretty good but word is they want to move him to OLB where they think he is better fit, hed be replacing Rocky McIntosh at WLB. Fletcher would be a good addition to the Skins and the truth is that b/c they have no draft picks they will once again need to turn to FA to fix some problems. They just need to not trade away anymore future draft picks because those traded picks are coming back to haunt them.

toonsterwu
02-26-2007, 05:40 AM
Not to nitpick, but if Marshall goes to OLB, he'd be replacing Warrick Holdman more than he'd be replacing McIntosh, who wasn't utilized much last year.

jsagan77
02-26-2007, 06:51 AM
Not to nitpick, but if Marshall goes to OLB, he'd be replacing Warrick Holdman more than he'd be replacing McIntosh, who wasn't utilized much last year.


Our team is seriously ********. Trade two 2nd round picks for Rocky and sit him behind and inept Holdman. Overpay a craptacular SS like Arch when Ryan Clarke was a better and much cheaper option. Build up players like Smoot, Bailey, Pierce and Arrington and let them walk via FA. IF we would have kept adding to our D and retaining true core Skins we would have

Bailey Daniels Griffin Salvea Carter Springs/Smoot

Washington Pierce Arrington

Clarke Taylor


Just imagine a good draft and FA this year we could have gotten Jenkins if Carolina releases him and Anderson in the draft. We'd be set. But nooooooooo we have to mess up everything every year. Hell we can't even keep our own guys-Dock is about to hit FA and get a lucrative deal. I have no idea what our front office is thinking but they suck. TJ Duckett for a 3rd rounder? Give me a ******* break... Rocky for 2nds, Campbell for 2 1st rounders (not bad but drew brees could have been had via FA). God we are dumb, i'm going to go cry now...

SeanTaylorRIP
02-26-2007, 07:38 AM
Lemar Marshall is pretty good but word is they want to move him to OLB where they think he is better fit, hed be replacing Rocky McIntosh at WLB. Fletcher would be a good addition to the Skins and the truth is that b/c they have no draft picks they will once again need to turn to FA to fix some problems. They just need to not trade away anymore future draft picks because those traded picks are coming back to haunt them.

Anyone who says LeMar Marshall is pretty good at MLB is fooling themsleves, he is the worst MLB in the NFL, his weight is even low to play OLB, he is a natural OLB and even safety and at MLB he was destroyed all of last year.

Sveen
02-26-2007, 10:44 AM
Nothing is certain until the contract is signed...

Jughead10
02-26-2007, 11:10 AM
Anyone who says LeMar Marshall is pretty good at MLB is fooling themsleves, he is the worst MLB in the NFL, his weight is even low to play OLB, he is a natural OLB and even safety and at MLB he was destroyed all of last year.

So I guess you weren't one of the Redskins fans last year who said Marshall is easily filling the shoes of Antonio Pierce?

BostonBillsox
02-26-2007, 11:12 AM
As a Bills fan Im going to miss Fletcher. He was definatley the heart of defense, but unfortuanatley he doesnt fit the scheme that Jauron has brought in. Out of all our FA's Im going to hate to see him go the most.

tom
02-26-2007, 11:34 AM
I like the Fletcher buy, because the guy can play ball. But one thing I know is that no matter how many players they buy, the Redskins won't make it back to the top any time soon.

Geo
02-26-2007, 12:50 PM
London Fletcher is one of my favorite players as well, so if he does go to Washington, I'll make sure to keep an eye on him in their games.

The bigger issue with Washington is up front, I think. Getting DT Alan Branch at 6th overall will not only let the DEs pin their ears back more and rush the passer, but also free up their linebackers to make plays in front of them. Hopefully Rocky McIntosh gets a fair shot to do so.

SeanTaylorRIP
02-26-2007, 01:41 PM
So I guess you weren't one of the Redskins fans last year who said Marshall is easily filling the shoes of Antonio Pierce?


Of course, LeMar Marshall at MLB is a joke, he is a poor man's Adalius Thomas and should only play MLB, that fact that he played MLB is a direct correlation with our defensive failures.

HawkeyeFan
02-26-2007, 02:12 PM
Yea ok, and Profootballweekley or whatever just said today that the Redskins are trying hard to get Strahan.

BostonBillsox
02-26-2007, 03:16 PM
If the Redskins dont do anything up front to keep the O-line from getting up field they might as well leave Fletcher alone. He is at his best when he can roam around the field making plays, if he has to fight off blocks its a no win situation.

SeanTaylorRIP
02-26-2007, 03:20 PM
If Fletcher has Branch and Griffin protecting him he can really thrive, and Kedric he's way underrated.

princefielder28
02-26-2007, 03:22 PM
Not a bad addition for the Redskins

skinzzfan25
02-26-2007, 08:12 PM
If Fletcher has Branch and Griffin protecting him he can really thrive, and Kedric he's way underrated.

Don't forget about Montgomery. I think this guy will be special, we drafted him pretty raw but he is a huge space eater with a decent motor. His mechanics are just bad.

art vandelay
02-27-2007, 07:37 PM
The one thing about Fletcher that Chris Brown, reporter for BuffaloBills.com, pointed out is that he really doesn't attack the ball, which is what the Bills defense is all about. Fletcher racks up alot of tackles but barely any are for loss, the majority come after the ball-carrier has run 4 or 5 yards.

bearsfan_51
02-27-2007, 08:08 PM
I just want to point out for all the Dan Snyder haters that the Colts spent much more money last year on payroll than the Redskins did.

Bet you didn't know that did you?

etk
02-27-2007, 08:13 PM
This makes no sense. Fletcher is a MLB and they already have a competent starter in LeMar Marshall. Why don't the Skins try drafting some good players and keeping their picks instead of giving them away for marginal old players and signing aging stars that are past their prime. If he goes to Washington, things won't work out one way or another.

Shiver
02-27-2007, 08:15 PM
I just want to point out for all the Dan Snyder haters that the Colts spent much more money last year on payroll than the Redskins did.

Bet you didn't know that did you?

However, they doled out a lot of that to retain continuity. They are a draft-based team, first and foremost. Whereas the Redskins operate in a revolving door of 'big name' free agents. While completely discarding the NFL draft. Which is why the Colts are the most successful team year in, year out. Culminating in a Super Bowl championship. While the Redskins have struggled to have any sort of success.

BTW - Yes, I did know that in fact.

skinzzfan25
02-27-2007, 09:39 PM
This makes no sense. Fletcher is a MLB and they already have a competent starter in LeMar Marshall. Why don't the Skins try drafting some good players and keeping their picks instead of giving them away for marginal old players and signing aging stars that are past their prime. If he goes to Washington, things won't work out one way or another.

Marshall is undersized and too slow to play MLB. The guy got trampled every play by a RB or FB. At least Fletcher is a natural MLB and a great on the field general. Plus he knows G.William's defense from Buffalo.

Geo
02-27-2007, 09:58 PM
I just want to point out for all the Dan Snyder haters that the Colts spent much more money last year on payroll than the Redskins did.

Bet you didn't know that did you?
I'd love to see the numbers, if you have them.

Btw, I think the Redskins are going to improve next year. Al Saunders' offense takes at least a year to take effect, the team finally began the Jason Campbell era, Clinton Portis will be able to start the season healthy unlike in 2006, and with what I think will be a 1st round pick in Alan Branch to anchor the middle of the defensive line and improve all three levels of defense if he stays healthy, it wouldn't surprise me if the Redskins get back to a Wild Card spot as they did in 05.

The NFC East will still be competitive, but I foresee Dallas and Big Blue stumbling just a bit thanks to critical factors.