View Full Version : kiper vs mcshay

03-24-2008, 10:43 PM
who is the lesser of two evils?

03-24-2008, 10:45 PM
Kiper all day every day.

03-24-2008, 10:47 PM
I think Maycock might be the best analyst of the three, but he comes off bad. I like Mel Kiper the best.

03-24-2008, 10:48 PM
Kiper nuff said

03-24-2008, 10:52 PM

03-24-2008, 10:54 PM
I will always vote Kiper.

03-24-2008, 10:55 PM
McShay's an idiot.Your insulting Kiper.

03-24-2008, 10:56 PM
Kiper makes some crazy predictions, but he know some info on almost every player.

McShay can put up a better board but doesn't have the info like Kiper

03-24-2008, 10:57 PM
scott wright! :)
for real though, Kiper

03-24-2008, 11:20 PM
i dont really like any....i cant stand kiper. ick. what people see in that guy.....if put out 600 mock drafts and gave the same team a different player in each, and then claimed that i was right if they took any of the 600 i gave them, then iw ould be just as good as kiper.....

that was a pretty lousy rant by my standards but im not a kiper fan....im glad ill be home for draft weekend so i can watch it on nfl network

03-24-2008, 11:24 PM
Kiper by far imo. I really can't stand Mike Mayock and Todd McShay is kind of fail sometimes.

I love the draft on ESPN because I like Kiper and Berman but I haven't really given the NFL network draft coverage a chance. Maybe I'll flip between the two this year.

Scott Wright
03-24-2008, 11:25 PM
I still watch the ESPN telecast for one reason: Kiper.

I do tape the NFL Network but if Kiper were to leave ESPN I would follow.

03-25-2008, 12:45 AM
Todd McShay...


03-25-2008, 12:51 AM

end of thread

03-25-2008, 01:25 AM
Kiper hand down. Im glad you all like him, he really knows his stuff. Mayock is good as well, mcshay's voice just pisses me off so he sucks.

03-25-2008, 01:35 AM
Easy one, Mel Kiper.

I'm not a huge fan of Mel (but I do respect him for his contributions to making the Draft what it is), but McShay is down right terrible.

What's worse is there are now people who defend McShay. It's awul I say, awful!

Scott Wright
03-25-2008, 01:58 AM
Just to give McShay a little positive pub in this thread he seems like a pretty nice guy from the limited contact I've had with him down in Mobile at the Senior Bowl.

03-25-2008, 02:08 AM
Sure, he sounds like a nice guy, but i think a lot of us can do a better job then McShay.

03-25-2008, 04:25 AM
I dont care as long as their talking football

03-31-2008, 09:58 AM
Kiper because he's got more ballz.
I do think though, he's mellowed out a bit over the years because he's been so publicly wrong sometimes.... but everyone is. It's just that everyone RECORDS what he says and then years later.... he's shown to be wrong.

He thought WR Mike Williams from USC was THE BEST OVERALL PLAYER in his draft class..... whoops.

Despite all that, I still like Kiper better than Mayock who talks with a lisp that bugs me. McShay seems like a light-weight to me.....

03-31-2008, 10:01 AM
Kiper... Hands down...

Shane P. Hallam
03-31-2008, 10:13 AM
Kiper is the grandfather. You don't mess with the granddaddy baby.

03-31-2008, 10:45 AM
Kiper's the man...or wolf or whatever he is.

03-31-2008, 11:00 AM
Ehhh, Kiper seems like he's off more then he is right, whenever I listen I dont get the feeling he knows what he's talking a about, I feel like he'a always late on something, and I still dont get why his early mocks are so thrown around...He is the grandfather and I have to watch him during the draft, but he's nothing special to me.

03-31-2008, 11:01 AM
Kiper's the man...or wolf or whatever he is.

manwolf, gotta go with Kiper

03-31-2008, 11:06 AM
Todd McShay had the Vikings drafting Ted Ginn last year. I hate him.

03-31-2008, 11:27 AM
Todd McShay had the Vikings drafting Ted Ginn last year. I hate him.

Or maybe you have him to thank? Did you think about that? Did you?

03-31-2008, 11:36 AM
Seriously, how did McShay get a job? What are his creditanials? I can't for the life of me believe the kid has every actually played the game.

03-31-2008, 02:02 PM
kiper is god. has helped make the draft what it is now. they both are smart as long as i am not listening to mayock then im good.

03-31-2008, 02:11 PM
Mel Kiper is my God.

03-31-2008, 03:09 PM
F- Kiper, he said Boldin was a bust and would never break out.

03-31-2008, 03:45 PM
Kiper is the godfather, but he develops too many man crushes on players and really over values good college players alot of times.