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awfullyquiet
03-27-2008, 05:14 PM
But. Y'all should be warming your buns for the hot crap that's gonna come out.

And here it goes



Round 1

Miami- Chris Long DE Virginia
It becomes a flip flop for me. Go completely contrary to what i think they should do and tuna will probably do it. They've been trying to beef the offense. I think with Jason Taylor gone, Chris Long is the clear choice.

St.Louis- Jake Long OT
I think the theme is protect your investments. Orlando Pace is not getting younger, Jake Long can let SJax get to the outside and be as productive. Great Long-Term investment for the Rams.

Atlanta- QB Matt Ryan Boston Freaking College
The absolute crux that Atlanta rolls on is it's QB play. I think Matt Ryan can make a day 1 transition to Atlanta. Compete for the starting Job, beat Leftwitch, and pick up all the rest of the talent it can use in the second round.

Oakland- DT Glenn Dorsey LSU
He dropped this far and is probably the star talent on the defensive side this draft. Oaklands defense is pretty darn good. The offense can run the ball. They still have Al Davis. Sure they need an OT, but in the AFCW, every team is run first. Denver? Whales Vagina? KC? Point, Match. Will NOT pick McFadden. Signed Fargas to a big deal. He IS the real deal there.

Kansas City- OT Jeff Otah Pitt
KC needs a RT. Clear as day, if they ever hope to get back on track offensively and let bowe and croyle do damage, they have to get LJ running. Running. Running. Otah is their best hope in this round

New York Jets- RB Darren McFadden Arkansas
Not good for the jets. But not bad either. I'd see them pull a 'Trade to Minnesota for Pick 17 and a Future 1st. Traded Pick 7 and a future 3rd' and have Minnesota grab Gholston here. Right now, the Jets would be happy, but not suited. They want to trade down for some great defensive back picks or wr. They will aggressively try to trade into the mid 20's here. and Minnesota would trade up because cincy and denver would both think Gholston fell too far.

New England (f/SF)- DE Vernon Gholston
Okay, I completely missed putting Gholston on the board and will suffer for it (it's been a very long 48 hours including car accidents and hospitals, and hence, plenty of downtime to write **** in). If Gholston happens into new englands lap, it'd be no accident in their mind. If the jets pass on McFadden. Expect a trade for sure right here. I got too into thinking of what would happen. where the trades would go that i forgot gholston.

(Pre-realizing i missed Gholston it was NE - CB Leodis Mckelvin Troy
Fits the Needs, Good Talent and would benifit by having one of the top front 7 in the league. If NYJ trades down, McFadden would fall into NE's hands. They would ALSO trade down to garner more picks. In my heart, i wish i would just make it so it'd show trades, but, that's a moot point.

Baltimore - DT Sedrick Ellis USC
Dropping this far is a grand scheme for baltimore, sure they need a QB, but I always projected Dennis Dixon as a Raven moreso than Matt Ryan, and with Ryan off the board, Ellis will be able to gain some weight and be that stout 3-4 linemen. I can see him as a replacement to Gregg as a NT with his height and weight.

Cincinnati- OLB Keith Rivers USC
With Ellis gone, Cincinatti picks up their next big pick on their board which will solidify possibly the worst LB core in the league. Good for Cincy. Bad for New Orleans. Hopefully he can help clean out the character issues in Cincy. Make CJ happy and give the Buggles a chance to win a WC spot.

New Orleans- CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Tenn St
In a bind with most of their top draft choices off the board, no needs to pick. A quality corner prospect with great range will give them something to console them.

Buffalo- WR Malcolm Kelly Oklahoma
Size matters. I would put limas sweed here IF i didn't seem him spiraling down due to his injury. The Bills need to take WR first round. Better than Desean Jackson for Buffalo IMO.

Denver- OT Ryan Clady Boise St
IF IF IF IF IF IF IF... McFadden dropped out of the top 10 (which i have as a possibility without aformentioned trades), Denver would skip Ryan Clady for McFadden in a heartbeat. Ryan Clady is the next best option to him though for denver. Solid, light footed, finished blocker. Sure, denver makes running backs, but based on good linemen. This would be a great pick.

Carolina - S Kenny Phillips Miami
Miami Safety? Go figure. Phillips and Chris Harris would be a pretty outstanding for the defense in Carolina. I also wouldn't be surpised if McKelvin didn't go here or Clady.

Chicago- OT Chris Williams Vandy
Without an offensive line (really.) I don't see how they wouldn't pick ANYONE but Williams. Could move left and let John Tait pick up the right or stay right and draft a future LT later.

Detroit- RB Jonathan Stewart Oregon
Huge upgrade over... uh. Kevin Jones? Tatum Bell? Cason? Whomever. Great but not overly dominant. Detroit I could see moving up to get McFadden as well if he's available when the Jets pick (in a perfect-matt-millen-less world). Powerful runner. Workhorse. Would make detroit seem a lot better. Mendenhall also would work. But i give the edge to Stewart.

Arizona - CB Mike Jenkins USF
With the Loss of Rolle to Safety, Mike Jenkins would be the piece they need at the right price. Impact playmaker, good leader. Plays hard. MIGHT make arizona into a playoff team.

Minnesota- DE Phillip Merling Clemson
If minnesota doesn't trade up for Gholston, They still WILL pick a DE in Phillip Merling. Better than the dross they carry now. Will translate into an Udeze, Williams, Williams, Merling line in the future which has tons of upside. Any pass-rusher worth their salt should automatically look great next to the williamses. Merling is no exception.

Houston- OT Sam Baker USC
Left Tackle? Problem in Houston? Finally they get a decent year with Tackles and aren't being mediocre. Day 1 starter. Will push Houston to an 500 season (in the AFC South. Which is hard. Duh). Played against top talent and that won't change.

Philadelphia- WR Limas Sweed Texas
McNabb needs targets other than Westbrook. End-Zone threat. Lets Kevin Curtis play slot and once again balances the offense.

Tampa Bay- WR Devin Thomas Mich St
Will Joey Galloway ever retire? Eventually. But. Devin Thomas probably will start taking snaps stat and Jon Gruden can breathe a sign of relief with a stud WR signed.

Washington- DE Derrick Harvey Florida
Biggest need. Hands down, Harvey has played against top talent and responds to pressure. He'll give them some wiggle room to play as a solid DE for years. Nothing too flashy, but, very solid.

Dallas (f/CLE)- CB Aqib Talib Kansas
Scary Pick, but probably the best for dallas in this place. Needs to work on his coverage skils, especially with roy williams behind him. When a QB is presured, he will NOT throw towards Talib's coverage, and that is all you can ask for out of a CB.

(I should also probably mention that... Leondis McKelvin would also be moved to here due to my error and Aqib Talib would be bumped down. *GAH*)

Pittsburgh- OG Branden Albert Virginia
Without Faneca. Alberts projects to be a versitile bountiful pick that can make hines ward run like a kid (again, and again, and again). Cleary the consensus Pick that Alberts is coveted by Pittsburgh. Fat kids love cake. And hot wings.

Tennessee - WR Desean Jackson Cal
Really, it's the biggest need, biggest fit here. Perfect placement. You get what you pay for. A lightning fast WR that can play catch with a QB who will make you move and not necessarly throw the ball well. Returner too w/o pacman jonnnes.

Seattle - OT Gosder Cherilus
I kept thinking, Jesus, how far will Mendenhall fall! But Seattle won't keep 5 rb's on the roster. Seattle CANT be thinking of drafting a RB without releasing TJ Duckett or Julius Jones or Shaun Alexander. They're in a situation where they signed too much too fast. They could be getting a fantastic RB at the deal. But 5 years for duckett and 4 years for jones AND seattle's cap. I don't think they can justify that.

Jacksonville - DT Kentwan Balmer UNC
See they going them going all kentwan balmer. Stroud leaving was probably one of the most unfortunate things to have happened to that team. If henderson takes the one and kentwan the three, it'll shore up some of the weaknesses at DE into more managablity.

San Diego - LB Dan Connor Penn St.
Okay. Totally weird. I know. I think that this could work. San Diego has the least weaknesses out of any team. Period. Dan Connor i think is the best player left on the board who could immediately impact their team, and projected as a 3-4 ILB. He'll play good middle coverage. Good speed. Will take the tackles from the flow of the dline. Solid tackler. Would make a strong defense stronger.

Dallas - RB Rashard Mendenhall
I kept flopping between Mendenhall here and Felix Jones, but settled on Mendenhall because i think the media makes it seem like. OOOh jerry jones will pick an alabama RB. I don't see them picking Mendenhall over Jones. I could be wrong. But think it's unlikely at this time. I also don't think they NEED an RB in round one, Marion Barber is the real deal. Real feature back. But, it Mendenhall has fallen WAY too hard to not get a fantastic Tandem.

San Fran (f/IND)- DE Quentin Groves Auburn
SF doesn't have a front 7. This is their speed rusher projected as a 3-4 lb perfectly. He will run fast. Tackle hard. Cause OT's to freak and make a good impact on their Line which NEEDS upgrades too, But can't find it here. In their 7 spot? yeah. They woulda gotten something better.

Green Bay- CB Brandon Flowers VaTech
Common Pick. A Corner who can learn to Jam from the best. Needs to some bulking time. But, in the title-like town, good things come to those who wait. (hint: it's not Aaron Rogers)

Forfited Pick because they're g*d damn cheaters, New England Patriots

New York Giants- Antoine Cason CB Arizona
The team falls apart in the secondary. Wilson skips town, RW's is getting old, Madison is old. This will is the time with the right place to have a top corner available. This draft has been overwhelmingly good at producing quality corners.

(i'd put Aqib Talib here with the giants pick).


OKAY.

Now that i completely screwed up. let me just mention this.

one) this draft does two things, one, it eliminates 'gm' pressure, because, lets face it, i have none.
two) i don't make sexy picks. i pick things only if they work in my mind.
three) i have no idea why rashard mendenhall fell so far. i kept thinking. no. they can't pick him. they don't need a running back. and i mean. someone, thus far, has made a case that San Diego would pick up mendenhall, but, i think they can use something else in the first and spend your later picks on actual backup players... he'd be a great fit but this brings me to...
four) i can't in good faith pick the BPA if there is zero need on the team or zero desire on the team. this is why mendenhall wouldn't be a seahawk and why he keeps falling on teams that have SERIOUS needs to become legit over players that have marginal talent and are marginally bpa from their perspective. sure. do i really think that Merling or Baker is 'better' than Mendenhall. That's a trick question, to determine 'better' you first must look at the surroundings and contextual issues. for the most part, if you put mendenhall in minnesota because he was the BPA, you're a lost cause. BPA doesn't 'exist' as it theoretically should.
five) i tend to play to peoples strengths rather than fix their weaknesses. that's why i put sam baker for houston (because, sorry houston, every single good top OT talent in the draft WILL be taken before your second pick), that and i think he has everything you could look for in a first round, sure, i think it's a bit high, but, in order to actually get something fixed? definitely. that's also why i picked otah for KC, he's going to play to the strengths of the team that needs it most. it's why i picked dan connors for SD. Make your team more dominant on one side of the ball has always been the key in my book. if you have the pieces for a strong offense, make it stronger. if you have the pieces for a strong defense, use your best picks and make it tougher. don't be content until people fear you.
six) Miami is screwed. sorry.

Thunder&Lightning
03-27-2008, 05:24 PM
I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it
I'm about to lose control and I think I like it
I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it


http://nextgr8twriter.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/excited.jpg


im pretty dam exctided man!

bearsfan_51
03-27-2008, 05:26 PM
And it's not posted yet.

But. Y'all should be warming your buns for the hot crap that's gonna come out.
That sounds very, very ***.

KCJ58
03-27-2008, 05:35 PM
girls making mocks, whats next them voting

bored of education
03-27-2008, 05:36 PM
Be my gf, please? lol

BeerBaron
03-27-2008, 05:37 PM
forgive me for being a little slow here but whats with the girl jokes? what did i miss?

neko4
03-27-2008, 05:40 PM
http://nextgr8twriter.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/excited.jpg


im pretty dam exctided man!
looks like yo mama last nite!

KCJ58
03-27-2008, 05:41 PM
looks like yo mama last nite!

I feel bad for you more than him

terribletowel39
03-27-2008, 05:41 PM
forgive me for being a little slow here but whats with the girl jokes? what did i miss?
AQ is one of the two females on this site. thats what you missed. a vajayjay among guys.

BeerBaron
03-27-2008, 05:46 PM
AQ is one of the two females on this site. thats what you missed. a vajayjay among guys.

really. would not have guessed that

Thunder&Lightning
03-27-2008, 07:50 PM
hhahahahahaha love this thread

awfullyquiet
03-27-2008, 08:37 PM
really. would not have guessed that

It's because i have a dirty mouth.

T Minus 30 minutes.

P.s. it's turning out more ridiculous.

Teasers: Mendenhall drops to the 20's. I write too much. I have this ridiculous scenerio where everyone gets what they want except for detroit. who always gets screwed. Seattle causes trouble (duh), people take needs. No one is happy. Except for Houston. Who isn't getting their franchise left tackle yet.

BaLLiN
03-27-2008, 08:54 PM
almost done?

awfullyquiet
03-27-2008, 10:12 PM
updated that ****.

BeerBaron
03-27-2008, 10:15 PM
good bears pick. i like how you put the star in "god" instead of "damn", lol

T-RICH49
03-27-2008, 10:19 PM
I am praying that Chiefs pick is a joke.We will NEVER take Otah especially in the top 5 with Ellis on the board

awfullyquiet
03-27-2008, 10:20 PM
good bears pick. i like how you put the star in "god" instead of "damn", lol

it's the jewish way. really.

619
03-27-2008, 10:23 PM
I still wouldn't rule out the possibility of Dorsey but all signs point to McFadden as the selection.

awfullyquiet
03-27-2008, 10:25 PM
I am praying that Chiefs pick is a joke.We will NEVER take Otah especially in the top 5 with Ellis on the board

It's a more efficient pick. That's why. Where do the chiefs strengths lie? They'll make better strides by augmenting their EXPENSIVE running back than using mid-late round picks to supplement a defense.

Ellis won't change the poor defense, there's too many other pieces to fix. Otah would amp up the offense and provide a franchise RT.

bored of education
03-27-2008, 10:32 PM
Be my gf, please? lol



ahemmmm aq

awfullyquiet
03-27-2008, 10:36 PM
ahemmmm aq

Whatcha got for a trade?

Paul
03-27-2008, 10:44 PM
Dallas (f/CLE)- CB Aqib Talib Kansas
Scary Pick, but probably the best for dallas in this place. Needs to work on his coverage skils, especially with roy williams behind him. When a QB is presured, he will NOT throw towards Talib's coverage, and that is all you can ask for out of a CB.

Dallas - RB Rashard Mendenhall
I kept flopping between Mendenhall here and Felix Jones, but settled on Mendenhall because i think the media makes it seem like. OOOh jerry jones will pick an alabama RB. I don't see them picking Mendenhall over Jones. I could be wrong. But think it's unlikely at this time. I also don't think they NEED an RB in round one, Marion Barber is the real deal. Real feature back. But, it Mendenhall has fallen WAY too hard to not get a fantastic Tandem.


Talib is fine I guess. Still prefer Cason, but most people have Talib as ahead. Much bigger fan of the skillset and experience of Cason.

Rashard Mendenhall..how the hell did this happen. Not Complaining though. But I do strongly agree with the perpetuated reasoning of the Arkansas connection.

derza222
03-27-2008, 10:46 PM
You kept talking about Minny trading up for Gholston and didn't end up having Gholston going to anyone in the first. I assume that was a mistake? I think if he's on the board the Jets grab him at 6 instead of DMC, or at least I'd like to think our FO trys to get some more pass rush for our D.

Yung Flippa
03-27-2008, 10:48 PM
Good Baltimore pick. Not really a fan of Sam Baker to Houston, at least in the first round, I think that Gosder Cherilus or Aqib Talib would be better picks.

defensiveback23
03-27-2008, 10:48 PM
I'd take Mendenhall over Connor for the Chargers in a second.

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-27-2008, 10:49 PM
We've invested to much money into Kelly to draft another UT in the 1st.Give us Gholston.

bored of education
03-27-2008, 10:52 PM
Whatcha got for a trade?

anything you want im a great cook!

SaintsFanForLife
03-27-2008, 11:32 PM
I like the Saints draft

thebow305
03-28-2008, 12:11 AM
Great Miami pick!!

vidae
03-28-2008, 12:15 AM
You know, a lot of people are down on KCs defense. It was a lot better than people realize, and I think a player like Glenn Dorsey or Sedrick Ellis could take our defense from good to great. The only other position of need on the defensive side of the ball is cornerback, seeing as how we got rid of Benny Sapp and Ty Law, but I expect that to be addressed in the later rounds. It would not surprise me to see Dorsey or Ellis taken with the 5th pick in order for Herm and Gunther to complete their defense with the stud run stopping defensive tackle.

All that being said, offensive line is our biggest weakness, but I'm not sold on Otah. If it were up to me, I'd take Clady over Otah, as I think he will be a solid to good LEFT tackle, and that is our biggest problem spot.

Overall, I think this is a solid mock. The Chiefs pick is just okay for me, but it could be much worse. You could have given us Matt Ryan. ;)

Good job overall. But remember this: do not sleep on the Chiefs defense in 08!

rockio42
03-28-2008, 12:16 AM
please dont give the rams Jake Long, i would love Gholston

Kurve
03-28-2008, 01:54 AM
hahahhaa vikings wanted to trade up to get Gholston but didn't and when there pick came they didn't pick him up anyway even when he was still available LMAO comical thats as humorous as when a team ran out of time on draft day what team did that again? ohh yeah vikes lol

Yatta!
03-28-2008, 05:14 AM
I'm not high on Flowers at all. I would rather have Cason or someone like Godfrey in the 2nd. Flowers just reminds me of Ahmad Carroll a little too much...

Abaddon
03-28-2008, 05:17 AM
Oakland- DT Glenn Dorsey LSU
He dropped this far and is probably the star talent on the defensive side this draft. Oaklands defense is pretty darn good. The offense can run the ball. They still have Al Davis. Sure they need an OT, but in the AFCW, every team is run first. Denver? Whales Vagina? KC? Point, Match. Will NOT pick McFadden. Signed Fargas to a big deal. He IS the real deal there.
Wow. Where do I start?

Well, first off, great pick. The trouble is with the explanation.

Oakland's defense is pretty darn good? Are you daft? You'd have to look long and hard to find 3 defenses worse than ours. No D-line at all, save for the run defenseless Derrick Burgess. LBs who, while good in coverage, can't shed blocks. Safeties who, well, I'll reserve judgment on them since we have Wilson in town and are probably moving Huff out of the box.

Fargas is the real deal, eh? Is that why his deal is set up to where all of his guaranteed money in in year 1? That 3 year deal is a 1 year hedge in case Michael Bush can't regain his old form. Fargas runs hard, but he's not a starter.

Whale's vagina?

skinzzfan25
03-28-2008, 05:39 AM
I'd love to be faced where we had to pick between Albert, Talib and Harvey.

So either one is a solid pick I guess.

eaglesalltheway
03-28-2008, 06:55 AM
I am a big fan of the Eagles pick, and this is one of the better mocks I have seen except for one thing, where is Gholston?

awfullyquiet
03-28-2008, 08:43 AM
hahahhaa vikings wanted to trade up to get Gholston but didn't and when there pick came they didn't pick him up anyway even when he was still available LMAO comical thats as humorous as when a team ran out of time on draft day what team did that again? ohh yeah vikes lol

shush.

i've had a rough 48 hours. and yes. didn't realize i didn't put gholston down. i talked about his impact on the draft tons, but didn't actually get him picked. that was my bad. i don't think he's dropping out. i just now have to toy with everything again.

awfullyquiet
03-28-2008, 09:13 AM
and secondly, i updated the main draft. fixed gholston.
maybe today i'll pick some second rounders.

added some notes at the bottom

I basically said something like:

I don't follow conventional football wisdom. fck you guys who think that.

Thunder&Lightning
03-28-2008, 09:25 AM
not feelin the sd pick agree with dback here

T-RICH49
03-28-2008, 09:33 AM
It's a more efficient pick. That's why. Where do the chiefs strengths lie? They'll make better strides by augmenting their EXPENSIVE running back than using mid-late round picks to supplement a defense.

Ellis won't change the poor defense, there's too many other pieces to fix. Otah would amp up the offense and provide a franchise RT.

Ellis could helpo way more then you think.put him next to Jared Allen and look out.Not to mention Jeff Otah will be a massive bust in the NFL mark it down

Vikes99ej
03-28-2008, 11:31 AM
I don't like Merling over Harvey.

rockio42
03-28-2008, 12:05 PM
Whale's vagina?

San Diego...have you ever seen Anchorman?

Crazy_Chris
03-28-2008, 03:17 PM
hahahhaa vikings wanted to trade up to get Gholston but didn't and when there pick came they didn't pick him up anyway even when he was still available LMAO comical thats as humorous as when a team ran out of time on draft day what team did that again? ohh yeah vikes lol

Talk about comical what team drafted a Kicker at 17th overall in 2000 again? ohh yeah the raiders LOL

Anyways nice mock AQ but, I don't think the Vikings would take Phillip Merling over Derrick Harvey.

roidrunner
03-28-2008, 03:20 PM
not the biggest fan of flowers, sorry just dont like him

proshoota25
03-28-2008, 03:25 PM
love the patriots pick (gholston that is)

scottyboy
03-28-2008, 06:51 PM
excellent Giants pick, he's one of my favroite propsects or potential picks for us

Abaddon
03-29-2008, 06:12 PM
not the biggest fan of flowers, sorry just dont like him

Why not? The team could use some of the money he makes off selling birds to help with future signing bonuses. He'd be a handy guy to have around until he's sharing a cell with Vick.

Addict
03-29-2008, 06:17 PM
If the lions take stewart over mendenhall, I'll cry.

21ST
03-29-2008, 06:19 PM
Give the redskins Branden Albert

neko4
03-29-2008, 06:46 PM
not the biggest fan of flowers, sorry just dont like him
She must mock as well as she drives
brahahaha
jk
but yeah i dont like flowers all that mch