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bearsfan_51
03-27-2008, 05:33 PM
I've come out as a pretty big supporter of McFadden, so this isn't mean as an insult, but I was playing around on youtube today and watched some old Lawrence Phillips film. The comparisons are pretty stark to me, even in terms of build and scheme. The running style is very similar, find a whole and run straight downhill.

Of course the difference is that McFadden's character concerns consist of some tatoos and a bar fight, where as Phillips hit women and was a total thug.

Curious if other people see the comparison. I had always thought of McFadden as a poor man's Bo Jackson, but Phillips actually makes more sense now.

Here's some footage of Phillips for you kiddies out there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYAjHA6HalM

neko4
03-27-2008, 05:37 PM
Wow, that is a real noticable comparison.
both are tall
run tall
real elusive, good straightline speed.
Lets hope d-mac doesnt get in trouble
On August 21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_21), 2005 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005), Phillips was arrested for assault after allegedly driving a car into three teenagers, following a dispute with the teens during a pick-up football game in Los Angeles, California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles%2C_California).

bored of education
03-27-2008, 05:38 PM
I think Phillips could actually run between the tackles more so than D-mac. but many similiarities

bearsfan_51
03-27-2008, 05:42 PM
Wow, that is a real noticable comparison.
both are tall
run tall
real elusive, good straightline speed.
Lets hope d-mac doesnt get in trouble
It's almost comical what a screw-up he was. Ya know, if it wasn't for all those battered women.

neko4
03-27-2008, 05:43 PM
apparently he might have to go to prison for 20 years.
Sad and all, but he brought it upon himself. It seemed so many people tried to help him.

bearsfan_51
03-27-2008, 05:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QESfiq4jpDY

I love how wrong Joe Theisman is about every single point in this video. I wonder if he's ever been right about anything.

Paranoidmoonduck
03-27-2008, 05:47 PM
It's been a long time since I've watched any Lawrence Phillips footage, I had forgotten what an awesome runner he was. Now that I think about it, he looks just like Willis McGahee did at Miami.

I think McFadden has a better top gear and isn't quite a shifty in the open field, but I will admit that once Phillips hit his stride it was hard not to see the comparison.

neko4
03-27-2008, 05:48 PM
no never
ahh and look at the other people they coulda got
Jonathon Ogden
Simeon Rice

SchizophrenicBatman
03-27-2008, 06:02 PM
I admit it, I laughed when I heard the background music

KCJ58
03-27-2008, 06:09 PM
yea that name was dead to me until you brought it back up again, thanks alot

art vandelay
03-27-2008, 06:15 PM
Lack of lower body as well for the comparison...aka Chicken Legs.

Ravens1991
03-27-2008, 06:36 PM
I heard Lawrence Phillips sold his national championship ring to a Vegas pawn shop for basically nothing and told the owner he needed to get out of town quick. He is a sad waste of talent. I remember people thought the Ravens should have taken him over Ogden. I am glad that did not happen.

BeerBaron
03-27-2008, 06:52 PM
i remember a few years back on another board i was at, a topic came up when it looked like phillips might have been selling his national championship ring on ebay. pretty funny...turns out it was actually him. dunno if it sold or not....

its sad how much of a screw up he was though

schmiddog
03-27-2008, 06:59 PM
kinda see it, really only once he breaks one

re: the other aspects of his running, i'd say rashard mendenhall resembles a poor man's Phillips

Thunder&Lightning
03-27-2008, 07:12 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/04/phillipstreestrikes.jpg
http://www.fncaa.com/images/mcfadden.jpg


just wanted to add a pic comparison...

the_legend_killer
03-27-2008, 07:26 PM
Wow, there are some reasonable similarities.

bam bam
03-27-2008, 07:28 PM
now if only DMac would try to run over some kids...

cdub11
03-28-2008, 10:37 AM
that is a good comparison, i think mcfadden has a little more speed and phillips had more elusiveness

Staubach12
03-28-2008, 11:14 AM
Wow, that's a good comparison. Nice find. I also love the video where Theisman is so wrong about everything.

Dam8610
03-28-2008, 11:46 AM
Maybe it's just me, but Phillips seems to run a bit higher and, for lack of a better term, stiffer, than McFadden. When I see that running style, I see why teams avoid perceived "high" runners, though I think a lot of players get unfairly classified with that running style. Another thing I noticed that really would shy me away from Phillips in those highlights is he doesn't get lower at times when faced with contact, so he's a stiff runner who's going to leave a lot of body area open for a big hit...bad combo. From what I've seen of McFadden, he has neither of those problems. Compare your highlight video to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcssslTgHBQ), and you'll even see a scenario in which McFadden does the right thing and Phillips doesn't. Both have a run where they're confronted with a defender near the goal line. Phillips chooses to hurdle the defender, taking a chance on more hits and/or falling awkwardly, whereas McFadden simply lowers his head and plows through the defender. I will agree that their open field running style is similar, but what does it matter once you've passed up everyone how you run? That said, in confined areas, McFadden seems to have a better running style to me, he's lower to start and willing to lower his head at times to get through a defender.

Ravens1991
03-28-2008, 12:19 PM
no never
ahh and look at the other people they coulda got
Jonathon Ogden
Simeon Rice


Ogden was gone before Lawrence at 6.