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doingthisinsteadofwork
02-25-2007, 10:22 PM
FA Talk

I would like to sign a veteran QB like Huard or Garcia.

RaiderNation
02-25-2007, 10:59 PM
FA Talk

I would like to sign a veteran QB like Huard or Garcia.

that would be great to get one of them, i would also want a big back like jamaal lewis if he doesnt ask for too much money. another is the G from cinn

Oaktown1981
02-25-2007, 11:21 PM
FB - Justin Griffin
TE - Daniel Graham
TE - Eric Johnson
OG - Eric Steinbach
OG - Kris Dielman

Windy
02-25-2007, 11:23 PM
someone is going to overpay to get garcia and hopefully its not us. i like huard though but if he gets promised the starting job after trent green i doubt he will leave.

Komp
02-25-2007, 11:33 PM
I think Daniel Graham would be an excellent, affordable acquisition for us to make.

RaiderNation
02-25-2007, 11:35 PM
Najeh Davenport RB or Jamaal Lewis RB(has to be released):big running back
Justin Griffith FB: a complete fb
Leonard Davis OT/OG or Eric Steinbach OG: both are/could be very good guards
Garcia or Huard: will give a vet qb to help who ever plays behind him (russell,palmer or walter

RaiderLifer
02-26-2007, 12:28 AM
In order

Steinbach
Graham
E.Johnson
Floyd Womack

Boss Bailey
Kelley Washington

I know the last two are stupid but I love there athleticism and always thought of them as possible stars with the right coaching. Failed projects elsewhere that might pan out in Silver and Black....

NIN1984
02-26-2007, 01:13 AM
Justin Griffin and Graham would be nice

TheChampIsHere
02-26-2007, 01:20 AM
The players I want in this order:

1. Daniel Graham - Our offense badly needs a TE and he is very reliable and a great blocker who will help our run game.
2. Damon Huard - Good QB for our offense and did great in KC last year, and would be relatively cheap and we dont have to trade for him. Allows us to take CJ.
3. Eric Steinbach/Kris Dielman - Either would do a lot to help the interior of our line, both could fit into the ZBS.

TE and OL are the positions we NEED to address in FA. QB maybe too, but that depends on if we're gonna talk Russell.

Stash
02-26-2007, 10:23 PM
I would love to get Huard, he played very efficiently this past season and either Graham or Johnson at TE. I don't like big Leonard Davis because he will require a huge contract and probably isn't a good fti for the ZBS. I would rather steal Dielman from within the division.

Raiderz4Life
02-26-2007, 10:37 PM
i would love for a guy like Graham and Griffith would be awesome too. I would like Adalius Thomas to come to Oaktown, i like Sam Williams but i think he can be upgraded. He'll probably cost a whole lot though. Any good DTs available?

doingthisinsteadofwork
02-26-2007, 11:40 PM
We resigned Sands on a nice contract.

locseti
02-27-2007, 02:37 AM
To go along with the veteran QB's, I wouldn't mind throwing Tim Rattay's hat in the ring.

RaiderNation
02-27-2007, 12:20 PM
We resigned Sands on a nice contract.

very important sign there

RaiderNation
02-27-2007, 12:20 PM
To go along with the veteran QB's, I wouldn't mind throwing Tim Rattay's hat in the ring.

if he goes for a low price and we dont get huard or garcia id want him. he hasnt really proven anything though

doingthisinsteadofwork
02-27-2007, 06:19 PM
Drew Bledsoe is expected to be cut by the Boys by the end of the week.Watch Al sign him.

RaiderNation
02-27-2007, 06:38 PM
Drew Bledsoe is expected to be cut by the Boys by the end of the week.Watch Al sign him.

kerry collins the 2nd

Windy
02-27-2007, 07:24 PM
Drew Bledsoe is expected to be cut by the Boys by the end of the week.Watch Al sign him.


That would be a mistake. The least mobile qb in the history of the NFL playing with one of the worst offensive lines in the last few years.

Raiderz4Life
02-27-2007, 08:55 PM
Hey guys, im really bad at math so help me out with this equation.

statue QB + bad protection + good pass rush coming = ????

bucksavage
02-27-2007, 09:02 PM
We will probably wait until June 1st to sign a QB

Windy
02-27-2007, 10:28 PM
it's from ProFootballTalk.com but it's interesting.

GARCIA TO RAIDERS?

Although the teams most commonly linked to soon-to-be-free-agent quarterback Jeff Garcia are the Broncos and the Bucs, an industry source has suggested keeping a close eye on the Oakland Raiders.

Garcia grew up in the Bay Area, and played at San Jose State. He also had a tryout with the Raiders before he signed with the 49ers.

So if Garcia is signed by the Raiders, does that mean that the Raiders wouldn't draft LSU's JaMarcus Russell? Not necessarily. Garcia could hold the job for a season or two while Russell gets ready to play.

With all that said, we'd still draft Calvin Johnson.

doingthisinsteadofwork
02-27-2007, 10:40 PM
Id rather trade down or grab AD.I love the thought of Garcia coming to Oakland.Sit out a year and draft a QB in 08.

Windy
02-27-2007, 10:49 PM
I wasn't really interested in him but now it's ok to me. He wants the best shot at starting and he'd have the best shot in Oakland then Denver and Tampa Bay.

doingthisinsteadofwork
02-27-2007, 10:49 PM
The rumor is Huard and Schaub are both gone.

raidersfanxxx
02-27-2007, 10:50 PM
i have a vary strong gut feeling that garcia will be a raider next year

Windy
02-27-2007, 10:52 PM
Falcons | Team will tender Schaub
Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:01:10 -0800

ESPNews reports Atlanta Falcons restricted free agent QB Matt Schaub will be tendered a one-year qualifying offer of more than $2.35 million by the team. Should another team sign Schaub away from the Falcons, they would receive a first- and third-round pick in return.

locseti
02-28-2007, 01:12 AM
I think that is way too much to give up for Schaub. We dont really have a chance of signing Garcia, and Huard was resigned, so its looking like a good possibility that we go QB in the draft. But we still have to get a veteran in here. I honestly would like A. Tim Rattay or B. Joey Harrington.. Behind our line, though....

locseti
02-28-2007, 01:15 AM
And about Garcia - He wants to play for a winner and will garner way too much money. I think that TB or DEN is a way stronger possibility..

Severe Punishment
02-28-2007, 01:42 AM
Then if Garcia signs with Oakland does that mean Moss is almost certain to get traded and that Calvin Johnson becomes a Raider ?

bucksavage
02-28-2007, 02:06 AM
Garcia a Raider lol....it wont happen. Does anyone remember Garcia the last few years in DEt and Cle...Garbage. Right now he is a system QB. He's not a QB to rebuild a team with a new offense. If we sign him he will be public enemy #1 in the Raider nation by week 4. You rebuild a offense with a new Qb which is Russell

NIN1984
02-28-2007, 09:40 AM
The options at QB in free agency are bad, Huard was the only one that I would have liked. Probably over an 80% chance Raiders draft Russell or Quinn


Garcia won't be the QB with Moss here that's for sure..

Komp
02-28-2007, 11:18 AM
Yes, I would say it is most definitely looking like a QB at #1 for us, the only question is which one.

A first and a third for Schaub? Yikes that is ridiculously steep for a backup QB.

bernbabybern820
02-28-2007, 12:39 PM
Yes, I would say it is most definitely looking like a QB at #1 for us, the only question is which one.

A first and a third for Schaub? Yikes that is ridiculously steep for a backup QB.

we are still going to sign a qb.

and for Schaub that doesnt mean a team cant trade for him for less. i wonder what the Falcons want for Schaub since its going to be a given that he wont resign with them next year.

RaiderNation
02-28-2007, 06:32 PM
brad johnson is a FA now. had a good season 2 years ago with MIN. if we cant get garcia or trade for a vet, i wouldnt mind him being a raider.

doingthisinsteadofwork
02-28-2007, 06:35 PM
Garcia a Raider lol....it wont happen. Does anyone remember Garcia the last few years in DEt and Cle...Garbage. Right now he is a system QB. He's not a QB to rebuild a team with a new offense. If we sign him he will be public enemy #1 in the Raider nation by week 4. You rebuild a offense with a new Qb which is RussellI also remember every QB looking like crap in those two organizations.Garica is a good QB.A Veteran that we need.Right now all we have is Walter we need a veteran.Id much rather trade down and take Quinn than I would Russell.

Stash
02-28-2007, 09:52 PM
Since KC signed Huard and it looks like he is the starter there could Green be a trade possibility? I wouldn't mind having him battle for our starting spot and he has great experience to pass on to whichever young QB's are on the roster.

RaiderNation
02-28-2007, 11:29 PM
Since KC signed Huard and it looks like he is the starter there could Green be a trade possibility? I wouldn't mind having him battle for our starting spot and he has great experience to pass on to whichever young QB's are on the roster.

that would be very good. they might ask for to much though

NIN1984
03-01-2007, 02:48 PM
Just saw an interview with Jeff Garcia on ESPN he seems open to the idea of coming to Oakland

RaiderNation
03-01-2007, 05:21 PM
Just saw an interview with Jeff Garcia on ESPN he seems open to the idea of coming to Oakland


thats great news

RaiderNation
03-01-2007, 05:40 PM
joey porter got cut. hes a bay area guy. think there s a shot we go after him? have the usc OLB we got last year as a back up for him.

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-01-2007, 07:05 PM
With his size he could play RDE.

Windy
03-01-2007, 08:01 PM
We offered Tommy Kelly a tender. Also Jeff Garcia news.

http://ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/

According to one league source, the Raiders have already maneuvered their way into position to strike quickly on Philadelphia's Jeff Garcia, who becomes a free agent at 9:01 p.m. (West coast time) when his contract expires.

Stash
03-01-2007, 10:38 PM
I really hope we don't go after Garcia, I just plain do not like him.

raidersfanxxx
03-01-2007, 11:17 PM
We offered Tommy Kelly a tender. Also Jeff Garcia news.

http://ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/


the tommy kelly move is great. as far as the garcia part.....im not mad at it.

RaiderLifer
03-02-2007, 12:07 AM
Question would you rather have Garcia in FA or Trent Green for a fourth rounder? I think I'd take Garcia just throwing it out there.

RaiderNation
03-02-2007, 12:44 AM
Question would you rather have Garcia in FA or Trent Green for a fourth rounder? I think I'd take Garcia just throwing it out there.

depends if green will restrucure his contract because i think its a big one so garcia here because he has more mobility

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-02-2007, 12:50 AM
I hope to get Garcia.

Romyrick
03-02-2007, 12:58 AM
Why do you guys want Garcia?

RaiderLifer
03-02-2007, 10:54 AM
It's not that I'm that into having Garcia as my starting QB it's just the thought of a vet QB that can tutor our young QB's whether it's Walter, a rookie or both. Garcia is the best available FA QB and could help teach the WCO to Russell or Quinn (if that is in fact what we are running).

Windy
03-02-2007, 10:59 AM
Raiders | Team interested in Garcia?
Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:57:32 -0800

Steve Corkran, of the Contra Costa Times, reports the Oakland Raiders are in pursuit of free agent QB Jeff Garcia (Eagles). "If the Raiders call once free agency beings, Oakland definitely will be one of the places he seriously considers," said Steve Baker, Garcia's agent. The Denver Broncos and Tampa Bay Buccaneers are also reportedly interested in Garcia's services.


Raiders | Team could sign Curry to extension
Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:53:02 -0800

The Contra Costa Times reports the Oakland Raiders are negotiating a long-term contract extension with WR Ronald Curry. The team would like to restructure Curry's contract and avoid paying him a $5 million roster bonus. "We are in the process of negotiating a long-term extension for Ronald to remain with the organization…" said Brian Levy, Curry's agent. "The negotiations are proceeding in a positive fashion between myself and (senior personnel executive) Michael Lombardi."

Windy
03-02-2007, 12:07 PM
Raiders | Team interested in C. Brown
Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:57:34 -0800
John Murphy, of Yahoo! Sports, reports the Oakland Raiders are reportedly interested in free agent RB Chris Brown (http://www.kffl.com/player/5894/nfl) (Titans).

RaiderLifer
03-02-2007, 04:31 PM
According to rf.net the Garcia signing is complete and he is taking his physical now. We had to sign a vet with only Walter on the roster so I'm glad we got the best one available.

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-02-2007, 04:53 PM
awesome love it.

Windy
03-02-2007, 04:53 PM
ya were getting garcia but that doesnt mean we arent drafting a qb at #1.

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-02-2007, 04:56 PM
obviously.but I think that this a great move.hes a good QB.

Windy
03-02-2007, 05:34 PM
it looks like rf.net's story on the garcia signing could be false. john clayton said garcia left without a contract. if thats the case i will be very upset.

slightlyaraiderfan
03-02-2007, 05:52 PM
it looks like rf.net's story on the garcia signing could be false. john clayton said garcia left without a contract. if thats the case i will be very upset.
that's ******* weak.

locseti
03-02-2007, 06:05 PM
I'll be surprised if we sign Garcia.

raidersfanxxx
03-02-2007, 06:36 PM
i hope this gets done soon

Windy
03-02-2007, 06:47 PM
i just hope we get graham. that would be our biggest signing since burgess.

NIN1984
03-02-2007, 07:21 PM
Don't look like we will get Garcia

Windy
03-02-2007, 07:21 PM
Langston Walker got 5 years 25 Million. That's crazy, he wasn't even our best offensive lineman.

NIN1984
03-02-2007, 07:30 PM
Raiderfans.net says we will sign Garcia but rotoworld.com says won't happen

RaiderNation
03-02-2007, 07:31 PM
Raiderfans.net says we will sign Garcia but rotoworld.com says won't happen


i trust in rf.net more most other sites so looks like garcia will be a raider

RaiderNation
03-02-2007, 07:36 PM
http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/showthread.php?t=96847

Windy
03-02-2007, 07:46 PM
most of us know about the rf.net report but i'd rather wait until pft or another source confirms it.

Windy
03-02-2007, 09:35 PM
GARCIA, RAIDERS AT IMPASSE

Nancy *** of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that the Raiders and free-agent quarterback Jeff Garcia are at impasse after several hours of negotiations.

"He's going to keep exploring his options and the Raiders will, too,'' an NFL source said Friday afternoon.

The basis for the impasse, as we see it, could be Garcia's request for a promise that the Raiders won't select JaMarcus Russell with the first overall pick in the draft. Though Garcia turns 37 this year, he likely doesn't want to play mentor to the guy who would eventually bump him to the bench.

ProFootballTalk.com

slightlyaraiderfan
03-02-2007, 09:45 PM
GARCIA, RAIDERS AT IMPASSE

Nancy *** of the San Francisco Chronicle reports that the Raiders and free-agent quarterback Jeff Garcia are at impasse after several hours of negotiations.

"He's going to keep exploring his options and the Raiders will, too,'' an NFL source said Friday afternoon.

The basis for the impasse, as we see it, could be Garcia's request for a promise that the Raiders won't select JaMarcus Russell with the first overall pick in the draft. Though Garcia turns 37 this year, he likely doesn't want to play mentor to the guy who would eventually bump him to the bench.

ProFootballTalk.com
What a POS, screw him and his ugly ass face...I didn't want him anyways.

Romyrick
03-02-2007, 10:14 PM
Its my opinion that Jake Plummer could have helped us out alot, as now it seems like TB will go after Garcia hard. Saving us from paying top dollar for a mediocre stopgap. We'll get a mediocre stopgap no doubt but we dont have to pay top dollar for one.

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-02-2007, 10:27 PM
How could Jake Mistake help us out alot?Hes a terrible QB.

Romyrick
03-02-2007, 10:38 PM
By retiring

locseti
03-03-2007, 02:48 AM
What a POS, screw him and his ugly ass face...I didn't want him anyways.

yeeeeaaa sarf! Garcia would have looked weird in silver and black. I think Jake and Garcia are pretty comparable at this point in their careers, I think saying Jake is a 'terrible' QB is going alittle too far. We are going to have to bring in a vet FA no matter what, how about Timmy Rattay?

bucksavage
03-03-2007, 11:18 AM
What a POS, screw him and his ugly ass face...I didn't want him anyways.

LOL

What did Garcia expect? Us to give him the starting job for a couple years??

LOL

Windy
03-03-2007, 12:17 PM
There are rumors that Ahman Green could be visiting the Raiders.

Raiderz4Life
03-03-2007, 12:21 PM
He's washed up, over the hump, he'd be a downgrade from Jordan.

Komp
03-03-2007, 12:40 PM
Yah I don't see why they would want him either. I'd rather have Fargas running the ball.

Raiderz4Life
03-03-2007, 12:48 PM
If Fargas can stay healthy is a good RB. He's a stud and has proven it when given the chance. I dont think he can be a full time starter but can do well in a 2 back system.

raidersfanxxx
03-03-2007, 12:56 PM
i hate the off-season. it makes me sick watching teams pick up good players while we sit and wonder why were so bad. ive come to a conclusion about the nfl free agentcy period. its just like picking teams for dodgeball in grade school. 31 teams will pick out the top players out of the crop, while the fat ******** kid that no one wanted go's and plays with the only team left to take him......the raiders.

Raiderz4Life
03-03-2007, 01:03 PM
we havent made any big pushes for players. The only people in my eyes who were worthy of getting pushed for are/were Adalius Thomas, Dan Graham, Justin Griffith. And its better to build through the draft than free agency.

bucksavage
03-03-2007, 01:44 PM
We need to build team through the draft 1st then free agents with wanna come here

Raiderz4Life
03-03-2007, 02:04 PM
FA is to accesorize a team not build it, look at the Redskins. They only have 1 1st day pick and their team wasnt very good cuz they built through FA.

RaiderNation
03-03-2007, 02:07 PM
i cant believe we havent signed a olinemen yet. we need to get a good 1 soon. then just get a vet qb from either FA or trade.

Stash
03-03-2007, 02:08 PM
I don't really mind that we didn't make any big splashes in free agency because most FA's get grossly overpaid. It would have been nice to pick up one of the guards or a TE, but there is still possibility that some trades will take place.

slightlyaraiderfan
03-03-2007, 02:09 PM
we havent made any big pushes for players. The only people in my eyes who were worthy of getting pushed for are/were Adalius Thomas, Dan Graham, Justin Griffith. And its better to build through the draft than free agency.
We made a huge push for Garica, but we are going to draft Jamarcus...and he doesn't want to be a mentor.

RaiderNation
03-03-2007, 02:11 PM
bad news
http://www.chargers.com/news/headlines/dielman-agrees-to.htm

dielman is gone. i think picking up davis from ari as a G would help us. plus he can play OT even though he isnt that good at it

Windy
03-03-2007, 02:17 PM
dude there was never a chance we were going to get a player like dielman. even leonard davis is asking for a ton of money. there is no way al will pay 40 mil for an offensive lineman. maybe a guy like floyd womack.

Windy
03-03-2007, 02:26 PM
I know he is old and injury prone but Ahman Green most likely will visit the Raiders.

Raiderz4Life
03-03-2007, 02:28 PM
If we cant get Graham what bout Johnson..is he a FA?

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-03-2007, 02:31 PM
yah I think so hes easily the best TE available.

Raiderz4Life
03-03-2007, 02:39 PM
we should push for him, he'd be a definite upgrade and help this offense out.

Windy
03-03-2007, 02:50 PM
yea jeff garcia sucks.

POSTED 3:45 p.m. EST, March 3, 2007

GARCIA ASKED RAIDERS NOT TO DRAFT QUARTERBACK

We threw it out there last night as a possible explanation for the impasse between the Raiders and free-agent quarterback Jeff Garcia. And we've now learned that, for a change, our closed-eyed wing-and-a-pray guess was on the mark.

We're told that quarterback Jeff Garcia didn't sign with the Raiders for one reason and one reason only -- the team would not give him an assurance that a quarterback would not be selected with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2007 draft.

It's really not an unreasonable request. Who would ever want to be the lame duck starting quarterback? If the Raiders were to struggle to start the season, the denizens of the Black Hole soon would have been chanting for the other guy.

It's also our understanding that the money in Oakland was equal to the money that Garcia is getting from the Bucs. We're told that Garcia will make $5 million in 2007, and that the total value over two years could be as much as $14.5 million, based on Garcia being the starter and the team making the playoffs.

For now, though, it's an open competition between Simms and Garcia, especially since the base value of their deals is identical. Indeed, we're told that Garcia has not been promised the starting job.

Of course, if he ends up being starter, his situation won't be much different in Tampa than it would have been in Oakland. The backup quarterback (as Garcia learned in Philly) is often the most popular guy in town.

portermvp84
03-03-2007, 03:51 PM
I saw LW was signed by the Bills, have we even looked at anybody yet at all?

RaiderNation
03-03-2007, 04:56 PM
yea jeff garcia sucks.

POSTED 3:45 p.m. EST, March 3, 2007

GARCIA ASKED RAIDERS NOT TO DRAFT QUARTERBACK

We threw it out there last night as a possible explanation for the impasse between the Raiders and free-agent quarterback Jeff Garcia. And we've now learned that, for a change, our closed-eyed wing-and-a-pray guess was on the mark.

We're told that quarterback Jeff Garcia didn't sign with the Raiders for one reason and one reason only -- the team would not give him an assurance that a quarterback would not be selected with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2007 draft.

It's really not an unreasonable request. Who would ever want to be the lame duck starting quarterback? If the Raiders were to struggle to start the season, the denizens of the Black Hole soon would have been chanting for the other guy.

It's also our understanding that the money in Oakland was equal to the money that Garcia is getting from the Bucs. We're told that Garcia will make $5 million in 2007, and that the total value over two years could be as much as $14.5 million, based on Garcia being the starter and the team making the playoffs.

For now, though, it's an open competition between Simms and Garcia, especially since the base value of their deals is identical. Indeed, we're told that Garcia has not been promised the starting job.

Of course, if he ends up being starter, his situation won't be much different in Tampa than it would have been in Oakland. The backup quarterback (as Garcia learned in Philly) is often the most popular guy in town.

this pretty much says we r drafting a qb then

locseti
03-03-2007, 05:54 PM
Can someone please explain to me why we are paying Langston Walker 5 million a year?

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-03-2007, 07:17 PM
this pretty much says we r drafting a qb then

no it doesnt.they didnt give him a gurantee.its not a lock.

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-03-2007, 07:18 PM
I heard that Curry has restructured his contract for cap space.theres nothing to hate about him.

Windy
03-03-2007, 07:25 PM
yea curry extended it too. it looks like lamont jordan could be cut soon. i really liked him even though his play dropped off a lot this year. he liked being a raider.

locseti
03-03-2007, 07:38 PM
yea curry extended it too. it looks like lamont jordan could be cut soon. i really liked him even though his play dropped off a lot this year. he liked being a raider.

You're right about that - him liking being a Raider. It was hard for me to turn my back on LaMont because everytime you saw an interview with him he was talking about the Raider mystique and how he wanted to be a part of that. He really wanted to be the Oakland franchise back, but it became clear that he just isnt that talented.

Romyrick
03-03-2007, 08:10 PM
no it doesnt.they didnt give him a gurantee.its not a lock.

Of course its not a lock but its definately an indication that they are seriously considering it. If they weren't considering drafting Russell or Quinn, they would have just told Garcia they weren't.

Windy
03-03-2007, 08:40 PM
John Clayton:

The Raiders are going to keep Barry Sims (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4913), who is moving from guard to left tackle, and wide receiver Ronald Curry (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6092), who restructured his contract Saturday. But they might lose halfback LaMont Jordan (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5496). For the moment, Jordan doesn't want to renegotiate a $4.75 million signing bonus that is due Wednesday, March 7. Figuring they could lose Jordan, the Raiders have asked Travis Henry to visit after his stop in Denver.

Raiderz4Life
03-03-2007, 08:54 PM
Henry isnt that great, he got cut from the Bills and the Titans for a reason. He's going to be disgruntled and turn into a negativeif he doesnt perform well or the team doesnt perform well.

Romyrick
03-03-2007, 09:23 PM
meh I dont like Henry either.

Pit Bull #53
03-03-2007, 10:32 PM
Henry isnt that great, he got cut from the Bills and the Titans for a reason. He's going to be disgruntled and turn into a negativeif he doesnt perform well or the team doesnt perform well.

Actually he played very well last year and didn't have a negative attitude at all. The only reason he was cut is because he was due an 8.3 million dollar roster bonus and his agent and the organization couldn't settle on a restructured deal. And he wasn't cut from the Bills, we traded for him.

The only real negative to it is that if he fails another drug test for smoking weed, he'll be suspended for 1 year.

Raiderz4Life
03-03-2007, 10:39 PM
Actually he played very well last year and didn't have a negative attitude at all. The only reason he was cut is because he was due an 8.3 million dollar roster bonus and his agent and the organization couldn't settle on a restructured deal. And he wasn't cut from the Bills, we traded for him.

The only real negative to it is that if he fails another drug test for smoking weed, he'll be suspended for 1 year.

Yeah, i discovered some of those facts after i made my post. I spoke without thinking, he was traded during draft day. But im pretty sure he lost his job to McGahee for being injured and lost it again to Brown for being injured.

Pit Bull #53
03-03-2007, 10:46 PM
Well, he never had the job in 2005 after we traded for him, he failed a marijuana test and was suspended after week 3, and was in Jeff Fisher's doghouse, but started to get more playing time as the year went on.

This offseason, he worked his ass off, and came to camp in great shape, and had the starting job won by week 2 and never looked back. I'm actually disappointed we didn't get a deal done with him. He runs hard as hell, and has a wicked wicked stiff arm. He has to be one of the strongest RB's in the league easily. He has had fumble problems in the past, but they weren't a problem at all for us. He would have had 1400 yards if he had gotten his regular amount of carries during the season.

Raiderz4Life
03-03-2007, 11:07 PM
Can he really carry the load? He's big but for his size. He's only about 5'9". Can he hold up behind a line that has a billion ? marks around it

Romyrick
03-03-2007, 11:11 PM
I might be too biased here because I love Chris Brown but is Henry that much better than Brown, if all?

BlindSite
03-03-2007, 11:15 PM
He's not better than LenDale White...

Raiderz4Life
03-03-2007, 11:27 PM
I dont lilike either Brown or Henry. I cant wait to see LenDale White get his shot, but thats another story.

I think we need to add a back through the draft.

Pit Bull #53
03-03-2007, 11:36 PM
I might be too biased here because I love Chris Brown but is Henry that much better than Brown, if all?

To keep it short, YES. Henry is a legit starter.

Brown is best used as a #2 back to share carries. Brown is also a great pass protector on blitzes.

Romyrick
03-04-2007, 12:09 AM
To keep it short, YES. Henry is a legit starter.

Brown is best used as a #2 back to share carries. Brown is also a great pass protector on blitzes.


That would be a huge upgrade in that regard to Lamont Jordan who has to be the worst blocker in the history of runningbacks.

Bucs4242
03-04-2007, 02:46 AM
you havent watched Caddilac block ; )

Travis Henry is a leader on the field and players rally around him. He was a fan favorite in Buffalo because of the heart he played with. He seemed to be productive with Tennessee when he got a chance.

locseti
03-04-2007, 03:37 AM
There's no doubt that Henry is a good back. But we just did the same exact thing with LaMont, we're not about to go and sign a decent starter for a crazy amount of cash...We can draft someone and just as easily alleviate the problem...someone will overpay for Henry (even though he's a good back), but I doubt that will be us.

Henry did wonders for my fantasy team though..

And seriously, what are the Titans doing?? Are they gonna rely on LenDale 'I'll spit in your eye' White?? This offseason is shaping up to be an interesting one indeed.

locseti
03-04-2007, 07:11 AM
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/locseti/Michael_Pittman.jpg

weaksauce

Only1pickJamarcusRusell
03-04-2007, 07:17 AM
We're drafting QB - it's clear and obvious now.

Garcia confirmed it, there's no tool like Art Shell to spoil the party this year.

Come to papa Jamarcus!!!

locseti
03-04-2007, 07:32 AM
We're drafting QB - it's clear and obvious now.

Garcia confirmed it, there's no tool like Art Shell to spoil the party this year.

Come to papa Jamarcus!!!

No chance for Quinn?? I think his stock unfairly plummetted..But ya, I agree with you, it seems pretty clear that we are drafting a QB...But no matter who we draft, we're still going to have to bring in a veteran QB

Raiderz4Life
03-04-2007, 03:49 PM
you guys speak like its a no miss thing that well draft a Qb. you never know what will happen, Al Davis works in mysterious ways. Id be ok with takin Rusell but you guys speak like its a sure thing. Garcia didnt sign because we couldnt guarantee him we wouldnt draft a QB, that dont mean were gonna draft one foer sure.

Paranoidmoonduck
03-04-2007, 04:16 PM
I'm less sure than I was. If we bring in Russell or Quinn, we have to have a 1 year vet not named Walter. Garcia is no longer an option, Plummer will hopefully just retire, so we need to pick up someone else (maybe Crow had Rattay pegged).

I'm still not convinced we won't pick up Carr and draft someone else #1.

bucksavage
03-04-2007, 04:36 PM
Brad Johnson might make the most sense

slightlyaraiderfan
03-04-2007, 05:07 PM
From roto..

Ahman Green has canceled an expected visit with the Raiders.

After visiting Houston and Denver, Green has seen enough quality options. He'll decide between those two and Green Bay in the next few days.

RaiderNation
03-04-2007, 05:07 PM
Brad Johnson might make the most sense


ya i want him or trade for carr

RaiderNation
03-04-2007, 05:08 PM
thats good news i didnt want green.

Windy
03-04-2007, 05:16 PM
i have a feeling we will get travis henry.

RaiderNation
03-04-2007, 05:20 PM
i hope we get him. he had 1,000 yards last year. hes a big back to go along with jordan and mayb fargas

slightlyaraiderfan
03-04-2007, 05:26 PM
i have a feeling we will get travis henry.
Sounds good, especially coming from you..

Windy
03-04-2007, 05:40 PM
lol theres nothing to it. i just think he would be a good fit. also i read that we would only sign henry/another rb if jordan was gone. hopefully we will hear soon about jordan's contract situation.

locseti
03-04-2007, 06:34 PM
I wouldn't mind if we dropped LaMont for Henry, but how big of a contract do you think he'll get? It seems like the same situation that we were in when we signed LaMont, a big name FA RB...Except Henry is a proven back

raidersfanxxx
03-04-2007, 06:40 PM
yeah, jorden is over it. henry will be a good pick up imo.

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-04-2007, 07:17 PM
the word is Jordan doesnt want to reconstruct his contract.
see yah Lamont.

locseti
03-04-2007, 07:54 PM
the word is Jordan doesnt want to reconstruct his contract.
see yah Lamont.

kick rocks.

RaiderNation
03-04-2007, 09:43 PM
the word is Jordan doesnt want to reconstruct his contract.
see yah Lamont.


and hello adrian peterson

bucksavage
03-04-2007, 10:17 PM
and hello adrian peterson

lol hello Travis Henry

NIN1984
03-05-2007, 08:53 AM
Is Tony Hunt worth pick #33? what does everyone think.

slightlyaraiderfan
03-05-2007, 11:14 AM
Is Tony Hunt worth pick #33? what does everyone think.
I like Hunt, and know a few others do too. I'll take him in the 2nd.

Paranoidmoonduck
03-05-2007, 11:38 AM
Really like Hunt, not at 33 though. I think we need to take the best runner available with the next pick (be it another 2nd we pick up or our first 3rd).

slightlyaraiderfan
03-05-2007, 02:17 PM
We lost out on Henry, big surprise..

RaiderNation
03-05-2007, 05:25 PM
Randy McMichael got released by the fins today. he the 3rd best TE avalible. i really want him or the other 2

Stash
03-05-2007, 09:01 PM
He'd be a good acquisition, but how much cap room do we have considering that we still have Moss on our team?

Windy
03-05-2007, 10:42 PM
Rotoworld.

Reggie Kelly-TE-Bengals Mar. 5 - 10:35 pm et


Free agent TE Reggie Kelly is expected to pick his new team on Tuesday.
The blocker will likely decide between Oakland, Arizona, and Cincinnati.
Source: bengals.com

RaiderNation
03-05-2007, 10:44 PM
how does brad johnson fit into the WCO?

RaiderNation
03-05-2007, 10:45 PM
Rotoworld.

Reggie Kelly-TE-Bengals Mar. 5 - 10:35 pm et


Free agent TE Reggie Kelly is expected to pick his new team on Tuesday.
The blocker will likely decide between Oakland, Arizona, and Cincinnati.
Source: bengals.com


nothing special a good 2nd te but we need a number1

Windy
03-05-2007, 10:50 PM
nothing special a good 2nd te but we need a number1

he's going to get starters money though, probably from arizona. i'd rather sign graham but i don't think we have great shot at him.

RaiderNation
03-05-2007, 10:53 PM
he's going to get starters money though, probably from arizona. i'd rather sign graham but i don't think we have great shot at him.

eric johnson

RaiderNation
03-05-2007, 10:59 PM
how does brad johnson fit into the WCO?

my bad he isnt a FA anymore. then how about rattay?

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-05-2007, 11:32 PM
Rattay would be good.We need two QBs he would be a nice addition.either as a backup or a starter while the other QB waits.

bucksavage
03-05-2007, 11:35 PM
Reggie Kelly would be a good blocking TE but he's going back to Cin or AZ

raidersfanxxx
03-06-2007, 12:28 AM
danial graham would be perfect

Windy
03-06-2007, 11:57 AM
OT Jordan Black will visit Oakland on Wednesday.

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/16840836.htm

Jordan Black, last season’s starting left tackle, lost his starting job over the weekend when the Chiefs signed Miami free agent Damion McIntosh. Black, an unrestricted free agent, was scheduled to visit with Tampa Bay today and Oakland on Wednesday

slightlyaraiderfan
03-06-2007, 12:07 PM
I remember him being decent againist us.

slightlyaraiderfan
03-06-2007, 12:43 PM
Here's something else on Black from roto..

Free agent offensive lineman Jordan Black has scheduled visits with Tampa Bay on Tuesday and Oakland on Wednesday.

It seems doubtful that Black will be viewed as a left tackle, though if there's one place he could play the position, it'd probably be in Oakland. The Buccaneers may have lost interest after signing Luke Petitgout.
He's going to be a back-up if the Bucs sign Petitgout...he might have a chance to start and play LT with Oakland.

RaiderLifer
03-06-2007, 01:02 PM
I think it would be a real good signing. We promised Sims the opportunity to compete for the LT spot and I don't see a reason why we shouldn't bring in competition. I think our best case scenario might be Sims/Black LT/RT or visa versa and Gallery at LG or RG. Of course I hope Gallery develops and wins a T spot but I don't care about draft status I care about results. Let's just win some damn games.

Windy
03-07-2007, 01:33 PM
Raiders | Team interested in McMichael
Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:33:41 -0800

Armando Salguero, of the Miami Herald, reports the Oakland Raiders have expressed interest in free agent TE Randy McMichael (Dolphins).

slightlyaraiderfan
03-07-2007, 02:12 PM
Argh, I not even going to get optimistic about this one...it's just going to be another strikeout!

NIN1984
03-07-2007, 02:24 PM
i'm just ready for the draft, that's what its all about.

Windy
03-07-2007, 02:54 PM
same, were going to build through the draft. we should have a few extra picks.

locseti
03-07-2007, 03:42 PM
Argh, I not even going to get optimistic about this one...it's just going to be another strikeout!


law of averages brother, gotta happen sometime.
One of my niner fan buddy's was bragging about all the niner pickups and clowning our lack of moves.
I shot back with "Real teams build through the draft!"
He came back with "No, nobody wants to come to the Oak."
I lowered my head shamefully and tried unsuccessfully to hold back my tears.

portermvp84
03-08-2007, 09:39 AM
Didn't Henry sign with the Broncos? I saw Eric Johnson was signed by the Saints we better sign somebody. Does anyone know if Randy Mcmicheal is still out there?

mhuff21
03-08-2007, 02:03 PM
looks like McMichael signed with the Rams

bucksavage
03-08-2007, 06:06 PM
Jordan Black is gone too

RaiderNation
03-08-2007, 06:37 PM
we are losing alot of people we need/want. we need to get 1 good FA

Windy
03-08-2007, 09:02 PM
According to the Houston Chronicle, The Raiders offered him a better deal.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/4614552.html


"Jordan came real close to signing with Oakland," agent Jeff Nalley said. "When it came down to it, he was within 30 minutes of signing with the Raiders, but then (Texans general manager) Rick Smith called. Jordan took less money to sign with the Texans because he's impressed with the organization and the direction they're going."

mhuff21
03-09-2007, 01:25 AM
I hope we make a run at Grant Wistrom. He'd be the perfect complement to Burgess. He's not as good as he used to be but he's a better option than Kelly, Huntley, and Brayton IMO. But of course hes probably gonna ask for more money than we have to offer.

slightlyaraiderfan
03-09-2007, 01:29 AM
According to the Houston Chronicle, The Raiders offered him a better deal.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/sports/4614552.html
Wow, we must really suck if we are losing players to the damn Texans.

NIN1984
03-09-2007, 08:55 AM
Jordan Black is awful, we didn't lose out on anything.

TheChampIsHere
03-09-2007, 09:01 AM
we really dont need Wistrom. I mean Tyler Brayton aint half bad, and whatever DE we add needs to be someone who can really get after the QB on third downs.

I woulda liked to sign Jordan Black because we need the depth, but its not a big deal....

We really need to sign a FA TE, and im really dissapointed we havent already. The pickings just keep getting slimmer. Johnson, Graham and McMichael are all gone and those were the top 3 for me. I still see Pollard, Wiggins, Stevens and Kinney, all UFA, but those are from ideal options.

SubNoize
03-09-2007, 10:06 AM
Justin Griffith in for visit today... I would like it if we can pick him up... he's young and catches well out of the backfield...

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10033511

Windy
03-09-2007, 10:16 AM
that would be a good signing. we have a realistic chance since we have knapp and cable.

locseti
03-09-2007, 02:54 PM
I like griffith alot, I'd rather give him the ball than Rhodes. Wistrom would be a definite upgrade over Brayton.

SubNoize
03-09-2007, 03:07 PM
we signed TE Tony Stewart from the Bengals, seems decent and provides some depth...

http://www.bengals.com/news/news.asp?story_id=5924

bernbabybern820
03-09-2007, 03:13 PM
we have like 5 TEs now dont we?

Komp
03-09-2007, 05:06 PM
We should release all of them but Madsen lol...

Windy
03-09-2007, 05:37 PM
Adam Schefter NFL.COM

Not only did the Raiders sign running back Dominic Rhodes to a two-year deal, but they also did the same with a pair of free-agent tight ends -- former Arizona Cardinal Bob Wakefield and former Cincinnati Bengal Tony Stewart. Wakefield is considered a superb blocker, while Stewart is a jack of all trades. The Raiders also hosted a visit with Atlanta free agent fullback Justin Griffith. And if that weren't enough, the team also re-signed wide receiver Alvis Whitted.

RaiderNation
03-09-2007, 06:59 PM
we got griffith :)

Stash
03-09-2007, 08:34 PM
I like the signings of the TE's and Griffith, but the Rhodes signing makes no sense to me at all.

bucksavage
03-09-2007, 09:10 PM
it looks like we are gonna use the play action a lot this season

RaiderNation
03-09-2007, 09:11 PM
alvis whitted has been resigned too

:( thats not good

Stash
03-09-2007, 10:25 PM
Whitted just plain $ucks.

TheChampIsHere
03-09-2007, 11:05 PM
Apparently we signed Tony Stewart and Fred Wakefield....I personally dont think this solves our problem at TE.

Komp
03-09-2007, 11:34 PM
meh...if we can get a good blocking TE that is a step in the right direction....Madsen wasn't that bad as a pass catching TE at the end of last year. At least he was reliable...

Paranoidmoonduck
03-09-2007, 11:40 PM
Apparently we signed Tony Stewart and Fred Wakefield....I personally dont think this solves our problem at TE.

No, but it makes it passable for the time being.

A good/great tight end is a luxury at this point, and I think spending a day 1 pick on one would be stupid. Let's get some more stuff settled and then maybe pick up nice looking rookie tight end in the next few years.

raidersfanxxx
03-10-2007, 02:08 AM
yeah, i think some solid role players at the TE spot will be ok for now. we can handel that later.

mhuff21
03-10-2007, 12:19 PM
we made the playoffs a couple of times with Roland Williams and he was nothing but a blocking TE. we can live with the guys we have now but i hope we trade a second day pick (5th Rd) for Dominique Byrd. I think the Rams would atleast consider that. They've got McMichael, Klopfenstein and Byrd. Byrd played with Kiffin at USC and hes a good TE IMO.

TheChampIsHere
03-10-2007, 01:00 PM
yeah its gonna have to be. it would be nice if we had a two way threat...We have converted WRs like Madsen and Williams at TE and then guys who cant receive like Wakefield. Anderson is the only guy who could maybe do both but he drops way too many passes. Maybe we spend a day 1 pick on one next year, we cant afford to this year though. Were gonna need a strong running attack this year in combination with great defense if we hope to win some games.

TheChampIsHere
03-10-2007, 01:00 PM
we made the playoffs a couple of times with Roland Williams and he was nothing but a blocking TE. we can live with the guys we have now but i hope we trade a second day pick (5th Rd) for Dominique Byrd. I think the Rams would atleast consider that. They've got McMichael, Klopfenstein and Byrd. Byrd played with Kiffin at USC and hes a good TE IMO.

that would be sweet

Raider_fan_Canada
03-10-2007, 02:47 PM
Sure we could use a good alaround TE like everybody, but IMO we should get enough production from Moss, Porter and Curry so that we are not deseperated for a great TE.

Keeping Alvis Whitted is pointless. With already Moss, Porter, Curry and Gabriel that are obviously better, why spend money on an old and awful player like him? Jonnie Morant can be #4 or 5 on the depth chart if he stops giving the ball away on every daim catch.

If you like Futurama, do you remember the episode when Fry trades his hands with the Devil so he can play music for Leyla's heart?

I wonder if Courtney can do that kind of deal for are love.....

RaiderLifer
03-10-2007, 02:53 PM
we made the playoffs a couple of times with Roland Williams and he was nothing but a blocking TE. we can live with the guys we have now but i hope we trade a second day pick (5th Rd) for Dominique Byrd. I think the Rams would atleast consider that. They've got McMichael, Klopfenstein and Byrd. Byrd played with Kiffin at USC and hes a good TE IMO.


That's a great idea. Bird for a second day pick would be really good and the Rams have to listen to offers for their 3rd TE.

Stash
03-10-2007, 03:43 PM
I think we should just stay with our current TE situation. Tony Stewart is nothing special, but he is solid and that is a lot more than I can say about any of the TE's we had this past season. Wakefield is a great blocker and Madsen is a good receiver, I think the TE situation is all set with those three.

mhuff21
03-10-2007, 07:38 PM
It's kinda interesting that last year Byrd was actually 3rd on the depth chart behind Joe Klopfenstein and Aaron Walker. If he were on the Raiders, he'd probably be 1st or 2nd. That's how bad how our TE corp is.

Raiderz4Life
03-10-2007, 08:55 PM
Byrd was pretty good at SC, i was hoping the raiders would take him but i dont know if we're willing to trade for him

Komp
03-11-2007, 12:40 PM
I have no idea why they resigned Whitted. He must be a great locker room guy or something cause he sure doesn't get much done once he's out on the field.

mhuff21
03-11-2007, 02:10 PM
I have no idea why they resigned Whitted. He must be a great locker room guy or something cause he sure doesn't get much done once he's out on the field.

He's a favorite of Al Davis. The only reason he's stickin around is the same reason James Jett stuck around for so damn long. They run fast. Thats about all they do.

NIN1984
03-11-2007, 11:00 PM
Whitted is good for 1 big play a season

slightlyaraiderfan
03-13-2007, 12:02 AM
Whitted is good for 1 big play a season
I think this is the year he breaks out, and gives us 5 big plays!

portermvp84
03-13-2007, 09:38 AM
He's a favorite of Al Davis. The only reason he's stickin around is the same reason James Jett stuck around for so damn long. They run fast. Thats about all they do.

Wasn't it just James Jett and Tim Brown for the longest time?

mhuff21
03-13-2007, 02:58 PM
Wasn't it just James Jett and Tim Brown for the longest time?

yeh. there was Raghib Ismail before that. Then we had Andre Rison for that one season, who for some reason was a 3rd WR, and then Jerry Rice. Jett actually made some memorable plays during his time with the Raiders. I remember that one play vs. the Chargers where he caught that deep game winning TD from Wade Wilson and the only Raiders' TD vs. the Patriots in the "Tuck Rule" game.

Raider_fan_Canada
03-14-2007, 09:04 AM
Garcia was at NFL Network about a month ago with Donte Stallworth. He said that he wanted to go somewhere players know their job so he doesnt have to tell everybody what to do. He's "Been there, thone that"....(Cleveland and Detroit) and apparently had enough of it....

In other words, he wants to play for a good offensive team.

I said to myself: Well, Jeff is commited to be a lucious backup because no good offense hasn't a quaterback already in place... maby except Detroit imo (!)

So if Jeff Garcia stays with that position, there is absolutely no way he is coming to the worst offensive team of the last X years, with a new coaching staff, new system, new players and players changing position. He's gonna have to be a coach before he can be a quaterback, wich is exactly what he didnt wanted to do...

Know if he changed his mind, I welcome him anytime and wish him good luck!

And that in wathever role he is given. Yes he could very well play to give Jamarcus Russell more time, or he could trow the ball to Calvin Johnson has well.

Bye the way; steam will be coming out of my ears if we trade down and/or pick someone else than JR or CJ.

portermvp84
03-14-2007, 09:35 AM
I'd be so pist off if we took Joe Thomas.

slightlyaraiderfan
03-14-2007, 11:34 AM
We signed a safety:

Raiders signed safety B.J. Ward.

The former Ravens reserve had a chance to start at strong safety last season before struggling with migraines. He'll go from one Ryan brother to another as his defensive coordinator.

bernbabybern820
03-14-2007, 11:43 AM
I'd be so pist off if we took Joe Thomas.

ya choosing one of our top 2 needs why would we?

portermvp84
03-15-2007, 09:44 AM
ya choosing one of our top 2 needs why would we?

I'd feel more safer taking Russell or Johnson over Thomas. For all we know Thomas could out to be another Gallery.

raidersfanxxx
03-15-2007, 09:11 PM
joe thomas will not be a raider. end of story.

bernbabybern820
03-16-2007, 10:31 AM
joe thomas will not be a raider. end of story.

its not like we were discussing if he would be our pick. Its pretty obvious we are going to draft Russell barring a Moss trade.

portermvp84
03-17-2007, 04:19 PM
What are the odds if we draft CA with Moss for Aarron Rodgers, that we would draft a TE like Greg Olsen or Zack Miller?

RaiderNation
03-18-2007, 12:54 AM
why havent we signed a vet qb?

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-18-2007, 01:37 AM
maybe cause all of the good ones are gone.I dont know. whos left?

RaiderNation
03-18-2007, 02:05 AM
maybe cause all of the good ones are gone.I dont know. whos left?

rattay and bledsoe

neko4
03-18-2007, 02:54 AM
Hey Raiders fans new "fantasy offseason-type" game starting up
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4174

bernbabybern820
03-18-2007, 11:05 AM
rattay and bledsoe

im so scared since theres gonna be a good chance we sign bledsoe.

RaiderNation
03-18-2007, 12:57 PM
im so scared since theres gonna be a good chance we sign bledsoe.


kerry collins the 2nd

portermvp84
03-19-2007, 09:47 AM
Bledsoe isn't god awful like Kerry Collins. I'd rather have Bledsoe than Collins.

bernbabybern820
03-19-2007, 02:59 PM
Bledsoe isn't god awful like Kerry Collins. I'd rather have Bledsoe than Collins.

but at the same time we already have a younger Bledsoe in Walter.

Stash
03-19-2007, 10:31 PM
I think Bledsoe could teach Walter a lot about the position. It's not like Bledsoe is a bad QB, he is just completely immobile. Earlier in his career he was a very good QB.

JSimmsy21
03-19-2007, 11:48 PM
question for you raider fans. how likely to you really think the moss to green bay trade really is? i mean, why would the big cheese give up a young, well groomed QB that played behing a future HOFer for a big mouth, old, playmaking(sometimes) wide out?

also, whats up with the RB's? granted, i dont know how washed up LaMont is, but whos going to start next year?

RaiderNation
03-20-2007, 12:16 AM
question for you raider fans. how likely to you really think the moss to green bay trade really is? i mean, why would the big cheese give up a young, well groomed QB that played behing a future HOFer for a big mouth, old, playmaking(sometimes) wide out?

also, whats up with the RB's? granted, i dont know how washed up LaMont is, but whos going to start next year?

idk now about moss. looks like rodgers isnt gonna be apart of it. i think a 2nd or 3rd is what its gonna be if it happens. about the rbs, i think rhodes and jordan are gonna battle it out for who starts but expect them to get around the same carries

portermvp84
03-20-2007, 09:29 AM
We should give Rattay a shot. He's more mobile than Andrew Walter. I don't know very much about his arm strenght. I also haven't had the chance to watch him play.

princefielder28
03-20-2007, 10:22 AM
I'm a Packers fan and i was wondering which DT you feel is more valuable to your team: Kelly or Sands????

doingthisinsteadofwork
03-20-2007, 11:51 AM
Sands.(10)

Komp
03-20-2007, 02:34 PM
Sands by a mile....I'd rather keep Sands and Moss than get Rodgers...if thats what you are thinking lol....Sands has a LOT of potential....

bernbabybern820
03-20-2007, 03:39 PM
I think Bledsoe could teach Walter a lot about the position. It's not like Bledsoe is a bad QB, he is just completely immobile. Earlier in his career he was a very good QB.

But both have the same problem. Both cant seem to get rid of the damn ball before they get sacked or get it stripped.

princefielder28
03-20-2007, 03:42 PM
Sands by a mile....I'd rather keep Sands and Moss than get Rodgers...if thats what you are thinking lol....Sands has a LOT of potential....

Fantasy Off-season and I'm the Raiders

Stash
03-20-2007, 09:39 PM
But both have the same problem. Both cant seem to get rid of the damn ball before they get sacked or get it stripped.

Yep, having an immobile QB isn't the best idea behind a crappy o-line, so hopefully the Raiders o-line play improves drastically.

portermvp84
03-21-2007, 09:50 AM
The Cowboys o line isn't as bad as ours is, and look what still happened to Bledsoe he got sacked like a bag of chips. It will be ten times worse him our o line doesn't shape up.

Windy
03-21-2007, 05:18 PM
We signed Josh Booty QB, John David Booty's older brother.

http://www.raiders.com/Team/Default.aspx?id=152

princefielder28
03-22-2007, 09:01 AM
Tell me what you guys think of my work done in the 2nd Fantasy Off-season


THE OAKLAND RAIDERS

Depth Chart
Offense

WR- Antonio Bryant, Peerless Price, Johnnie Morant
LT- Robert Gallery, Mark Wilson
LG- Dan Buenning, Brad Badger
C- Jake Grove, Jeremy Newberry, Adam Treu
RG- Kendall Simmons, Kevin Boothe
RT- Barry Sims, Chris Slaughter
TE- Bryan Fletcher, Randal Williams, Tony Stewart
WR- Michael Clayton, Doug Gabriel, John Madsen
QB- Trent Green, Andrew Walter
RB- Dominic Rhodes, Domanick Williams, Justin Fargas, Zach Crockett
FB- Justin Griffith

Defense
DE- Tyler Brayton, Derrick Burgess, Lance Johnstone, Kevin Huntley
DT- Terdell Sands, Corey Williams, Antaj Hawthorne
LB- Lance Briggs, Barrett Rudd, Thomas Howard, Sam Williams, Ricky Brown, Darnell Bing
CB- Nnamdi Asomugha, Chris Carr, Fabian Wshington, shawn Springs, Hiram Eugene, Stanford Routt
S- Jarrod Cooper, Michael Huff, Staurt Schweigert, BJ Ward

Special Teams
K- Sebastian Janokowski
P- Shane Lechler

*Denotes Starters

RFA
RB Reshard Lee
DT Tommy Kelly

UFA
QB Aaron Brooks
S Derrick Gibson
RB DeJuan Green
OG Corey Haulsey
LB Grant Irons
CB Tyrone Poole
CB Duane Starks
QB Marques Tuiaposopo

Trading Block

Trades:
Kendall Simmons for a 4th round pick
A 4th round pick for Jerry Porter
Corey Williams, 3rd, 5th round picks for Randy Moss
1st, 2nd round picks, Domanick Williams for 1st overall pick
Peerless Price for the 160th pick
Bryan Fletcher and 4th rounder for LaMont Jordan and 7th rounder
Pick 131 for Warren Sapp
Dan Buenning, Barrett Rudd, Michael Clayton for Kirk Morrison, picks 65 and 155
Lance Briggs for Pick 33, Courtney Anderson, Robert Thomas
Trent Green for Pick 127

Free agent additions:
WR Antonio Bryant

Draft Picks:
#8
#39
#78
#106
#128
#131
#147

Komp
03-22-2007, 09:41 AM
Domanick Williams = Domanick Davis??

I don't think you got enough value for the #1 pick, but you took the Packers to town for Moss. What happened to Curry? I really don't like the Morrison trade at all. Briggs is a very nice addition [and Ruud too altho he was too pricey] and you were able to hold on to Thomas Howard and both our CB's. I like the Trent Green pickup too.

I'd give you a B without the Morrison trade, but that trade drops you down to a C+. You did pretty good other than that.

PS - I don't really know how good Dan Buenning is, if he's amazing than I take it back but Boothe is a serviceable G and you already got Kendall Simmons.

princefielder28
03-22-2007, 09:44 AM
Domanick Williams = Domanick Davis??

I don't think you got enough value for the #1 pick, but you took the Packers to town for Moss. What happened to Curry? I really don't like the Morrison trade at all. Briggs is a very nice addition [and Ruud too altho he was too pricey] and you were able to hold on to Thomas Howard and both our CB's. I like the Trent Green pickup too.

I'd give you a B without the Morrison trade, but that trade drops you down to a C+. You did pretty good other than that.

PS - I don't really know how good Dan Buenning is, if he's amazing than I take it back but Boothe is a serviceable G and you already got Kendall Simmons.

I'll explain myself. In the Morrison trade, I gave him up but in return I got Dan Buenning who was Tampa's best linemen and he will one day will be a Pro Bowler, Barrett Rudd is his replacement at MLB and the kid is tough and can play in the NFL, and Michael Calyton helps address the much needed help at WR. I was very happy with my move.

princefielder28
03-22-2007, 10:02 AM
One more thing about my trade out of the Number 1 spot. After another trade the deal pretty much was 1st overall pick for the 8th overall pick, Lance Briggs, and Domanick Williams.

Komp
03-22-2007, 11:29 PM
I understand the reasoning behind the moves, I just really like our LB's right now. Nothing wrong with what you did, I'd just do it differently...apples and oranges.

portermvp84
03-23-2007, 09:28 AM
Yeah, I also like our LB's right now. We shouldn't mess with them. Keep Howard and Morrison.

Windy
03-23-2007, 02:31 PM
It looks like we almost had Schaub.


http://blogs.chron.com/nfl/

On Wednesday, I told you that one reason the Texans threw in the extra second-round pick is because other teams, including Oakland, wanted Schaub. Thanks to Larry House for pointing out that the Raiders' new offensive coordinator is Greg Knapp, who was Schaub's offensive coordinator the last three years with the Falcons. No wonder Oakland was hot on his trail.

Komp
03-25-2007, 06:54 PM
This doesn't surprise me at all.

Komp
03-25-2007, 06:55 PM
I think this goes to show that we are not sold on Jamarcus as the #1 pick. I really think we will end up taking CJ or trading....we would not be interested in all these QB's if we were going to take one with the 1st overall pick

RaiderNation
03-25-2007, 07:12 PM
I think this goes to show that we are not sold on Jamarcus as the #1 pick. I really think we will end up taking CJ or trading....we would not be interested in all these QB's if we were going to take one with the 1st overall pick

i really hope ur right

Paranoidmoonduck
03-25-2007, 07:57 PM
I think this goes to show that we are not sold on Jamarcus as the #1 pick. I really think we will end up taking CJ or trading....we would not be interested in all these QB's if we were going to take one with the 1st overall pick

Or at least it might indicate that the team is trying to do everything possible to land Calvin Johnson.

portermvp84
03-26-2007, 09:41 AM
If we did draft CJ what would his mind set be, he already said he doesn't wanna play for us. He could turn out to be another Moss. I know he's the best Wr prospect in the draft, but I'm not sold on his attitude. Either we trade doen or draft JM.

Romyrick
03-26-2007, 10:42 AM
Wide recievers are a dime a dozen.

Paranoidmoonduck
03-26-2007, 11:32 AM
If we did draft CJ what would his mind set be, he already said he doesn't wanna play for us.

Um, no he didn't. There was some rumor, but he said he'd love to be the #1 overall pick at the combine.

portermvp84
03-26-2007, 02:37 PM
Um, no he didn't. There was some rumor, but he said he'd love to be the #1 overall pick at the combine.

I'm sure I miss read it, I wasn't sure or not but thats good that he wants to be nu,ber one overall.

Paranoidmoonduck
03-26-2007, 05:44 PM
I'm sure I miss read it, I wasn't sure or not but thats good that he wants to be nu,ber one overall.

There was a small article that came out sometime around New Years, but little was thought of it and not a single other piece of evidence existed to confirm he ever said any such thing.

Calvin never struck me as the type of player to make that statement anyway.

Stash
03-26-2007, 09:37 PM
CJ is actually supposed to have a good attitude compared to most talented WR's. Apparently he is a mild mannered guy, if he wasn't, we probably would have heard about him calling out Reggie Ball for sucking the D.

NIN1984
03-29-2007, 11:19 AM
McCown :( ewww

locseti
03-29-2007, 01:46 PM
Did we sign McCown? Then why in the hell did we sign Josh booty? Well I am officially confused, if we were going to take a QB int eh draft, you would think we would keep Walter and bring in a veteran like Rattay. But now we have three young QB's (and I am going to admit that I like Josh) but I just don't get what we are doing...Walter, Booty and McCown? Can someone tell me why this might make sense?

I do like McCown as a backup though.

Salami
03-29-2007, 09:10 PM
Jamarcus Russell is a no brainer. The team can not protect the passer, so you need a big guy that is hard to take down. You need a guy with a big arm to get the ball to Moss downfield.

portermvp84
03-30-2007, 09:49 AM
Did we sign McCown? Then why in the hell did we sign Josh booty? Well I am officially confused, if we were going to take a QB int eh draft, you would think we would keep Walter and bring in a veteran like Rattay. But now we have three young QB's (and I am going to admit that I like Josh) but I just don't get what we are doing...Walter, Booty and McCown? Can someone tell me why this might make sense?

I do like McCown as a backup though.

I'm as lost as you are, I was expecting to sign a vetern QB who if we did draft JR to groom him out. I really don't understand the move we made with three young QBs.

slightlyaraiderfan
03-30-2007, 11:22 AM
No, we didn't ge McCown. Kirwin is speculating that we should trade for him, it's just a rumor.

bernbabybern820
03-30-2007, 01:45 PM
No, we didn't ge McCown. Kirwin is speculating that we should trade for him, it's just a rumor.

and i doubt Booty is going to be anything more than a practice squad player.

Windy
03-30-2007, 06:43 PM
We signed OT Cornell Green from Tampa Bay. He played in 14 games each of the last two seasons.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/135796

Stash
03-30-2007, 08:21 PM
Jamarcus Russell is a no brainer. The team can not protect the passer, so you need a big guy that is hard to take down. You need a guy with a big arm to get the ball to Moss downfield.

That doesn't make much sense. If we can't protect the passer, why should we invest $40 million in a QB that will just get beat up? Being big doesn't mean you can't get sacked (ex: Culpepper). And if the line can't protect him, he won't be able to utilize his big arm to get the ball downfield to Moss. Now I'm not saying we won't draft Russell, I'm just saying your reason for wanting him isn't logical.

RaiderNation
03-30-2007, 08:47 PM
We signed OT Cornell Green from Tampa Bay. He played in 14 games each of the last two seasons.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/135796

thats good news

Windy
04-01-2007, 07:03 PM
Raiders | Carr not thrilled with Raiders opening
Sun, 1 Apr 2007 15:17:25 -0700

Steve Corkran, of the Contra Costa Times, reporting for the Sporting News, reports free-agent QB David Carr will probably not join the Oakland Raiders unless he is unable to find a better situation elsewhere. Carr isn't thrilled about the idea of joining a team that likely will take a franchise-type quarterback in this year's draft.