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katnip
04-05-2008, 02:18 PM
Keep in mind I suck at comparisons. And if they fulfill their potential. Only doing this waiting for the Mets/Braves game.

Feel free to post YOUR comparisons too.

Matt Ryan - Derek Anderson
Brian Brohm - Rex Grossman
Run DMC - Clinton Portis?
Jonathan Stewart - Fred Taylor/Jamal Lewis
Rashard Mendenhall - A in his prime Ahman Green
Limas Sweed - Reggie Wayne
Malcolm Kelly - Braylon Edwards
Mario Manningham - Donald Driver (at best)
John Carlson - Desmond Clark
Fred Davis - Daniel Graham (w/ less fumbles)
Jake Long - Jordan Gross (except more powerful)
Ryan Clady - Chris Samuels
Jeff Otah - Marcus McNeil
Branden Albert - Walter Jones? (I have no idea, as with all of these)
Chris Long - Kyle Vanden Bosch
Vernon Gholston - DeMarcus Ware
Derrick Harvey - Jared Allen (would say Andre Carter, but he's uber)
Quentin Groves - Shaun Phillips (chargers)
Keith Rivers - Keith Bulluck
Glenn Dorsey - Tommie Harris
Sedrick Ellis - Booger McFarland
Kentwan Balmer - Kevin Williams
Leodis McKelvin - Samari Rolle
Mike Jenkins - Chris Gamble
Aqib Talib - Nmandi Asomugha
Kenny Phillips "From, The U" - Kerry Rhodes?
Reggie Smith - Tanard Jackson

Read first sentence in post again.

SimonRath
04-05-2008, 02:21 PM
Brian Brohm aas Rex Grossman?
Derrick Harvey as Jared Allen?
Quentin Groves as Shaun Phillips?

please explain these cause i just dont see it

katnip
04-05-2008, 02:23 PM
Just whatever popped in my head first.

neko4
04-05-2008, 02:23 PM
Fred Davis to Daniel Graham?
Ryan to Derek Anderson?
Manningham to Driver?
I couldnt list more of these i dont get

MetSox17
04-05-2008, 02:25 PM
Those are all pretty bad.

katnip
04-05-2008, 02:25 PM
I did say I suck at comparisons.

SimonRath
04-05-2008, 02:25 PM
oh.. so there not really who you think there gonna be like?

MetSox17
04-05-2008, 02:26 PM
Then don't post threads.
Besides, there's already more than one player comparison threads

Sniper
04-05-2008, 02:26 PM
Brian Brohm - Rex Grossman
Run DMC - Clinton Portis?
Malcolm Kelly - Braylon Edwards
Jeff Otah - Marcus McNeil
Branden Albert - Walter Jones? (I have no idea, as with all of these)
Derrick Harvey - Jared Allen (would say Andre Carter, but he's uber)


Awful, absolutely awful.

Kelly can't hold Braylon's jock.

SimonRath
04-05-2008, 02:26 PM
yeah i dont really get why you made this post

neko4
04-05-2008, 02:27 PM
Matt Ryan - Matt Hasselback
JD Booty - Jeff Garcia
Josh Johnson - Donovan McNabb
Joe Flacco - Derek Anderson
Andre Woodson - Big Ben
Chad Henne - Rex Grossman
Colt Brennan - Aaron Rodgers?

katnip
04-05-2008, 02:27 PM
oh.. so there not really who you think there gonna be like?

They are if what I think they might become if they pan out. Just like I said. I'm very bad at player comparisons.

SimonRath
04-05-2008, 02:29 PM
Matt Ryan - Matt Hasselback
JD Booty - Jeff Garcia
Josh Johnson - Donovan McNabb
Joe Flacco - Derek Anderson
Andre Woodson - Big Ben
Chad Henne - Rex Grossman
Colt Brennan - Aaron Rodgers?

Woodson as Big Ben?
Josh Johnson as McNabb?

dont see that

KCJ58
04-05-2008, 02:31 PM
Limas Sweed reminds me of Dwayne Jarrett

MetSox17
04-05-2008, 02:32 PM
They are if what I think they might become if they pan out. Just like I said. I'm very bad at player comparisons.

Well unless Matt Ryan gets another arm, he'll never be Derek Anderson.
Same for Brohm being Grossman.
If Limas Sweed shrinks 5 inches he'll be Reggie Wayne.
Vernon Gholston will never have the coverage skills Ware has.
They're all awful

PACKmanN
04-05-2008, 02:34 PM
Erik Ainge= Matt Schaub
Carl Nicks= Shawn Andrews

katnip
04-05-2008, 02:35 PM
Then don't post threads.
Besides, there's already more than one player comparison threads

I couldn't find any.

If there are other's. Are they title'd post-combine? This is for other people to post too.

KCJ58
04-05-2008, 02:36 PM
Chris Long - Kyle Vanden Bosch?

that 1 doesn't make sense to me please explain?

katnip
04-05-2008, 02:37 PM
Chris Long - Kyle Vanden Bosch?

that 1 doesn't make sense to me please explain?

Production/Impact on the game-wise.

MetSox17
04-05-2008, 02:46 PM
I couldn't find any.

If there are other's. Are they title'd post-combine? This is for other people to post too.

lol what difference does it make if they're post combine, pre combine, or whatever the hell?? The information and feedback in it is all the same, so all it's doing is clogging the forum with the same threads.

lordquas
04-05-2008, 07:19 PM
lemme try a couple

jonathan stewart - jamal lewis
jamaal charles - clinton portis
matt forte - willis mcgahee
kevin oconnell - jason campbell
desean jackson - ted gin

BlindSite
04-05-2008, 07:32 PM
Matt Ryan - Kyle Boller but with better mechanics and mental state.
Brian Brohm - Drew Bledsoe
Run DMC - Clinton Portis? - Sort of Agree, imo more of a Ricky Williams without the insanity.
Jonathan Stewart - Fred Taylor/Jamal Lewis - Disagree more of a Stephen Davis
Rashard Mendenhall - Ahman Green - Agree
Limas Sweed - Keyshawn Johnson
Malcolm Kelly - Marques Colston
Jake Long - Jordan Gross (you don't get much more powerful)
Chris Long - Patrick Kerney
Vernon Gholston - Derrick Burgess / John Abraham
Keith Rivers - Keith Brooking
Glenn Dorsey - Warren Sapp
Sedrick Ellis - Damoine Lewis
Mike Jenkins - Chris Gamble
Aqib Talib - Richard Marshall
Kenny Phillips - Dawan Landry

MetSox17
04-05-2008, 08:32 PM
Matt Ryan - Kyle Boller but with better mechanics and mental state.
Brian Brohm - Drew Bledsoe
Run DMC - Clinton Portis? - Sort of Agree, imo more of a Ricky Williams without the insanity.
Jonathan Stewart - Fred Taylor/Jamal Lewis - Disagree more of a Stephen Davis
Rashard Mendenhall - Ahman Green - Agree
Limas Sweed - Keyshawn Johnson
Malcolm Kelly - Marques Colston
Jake Long - Jordan Gross (you don't get much more powerful)
Chris Long - Patrick Kerney
Vernon Gholston - Derrick Burgess / John Abraham
Keith Rivers - Keith Brooking
Glenn Dorsey - Warren Sapp
Sedrick Ellis - Damoine Lewis
Mike Jenkins - Chris Gamble
Aqib Talib - Richard Marshall
Kenny Phillips - Dawan Landry

Outside of the QB comparisons those are pretty decent.
But Ryan = Boller???
You do realize that Kyle Boller put the football through the Field Goal posts
on his knee from the 50 yard line right?

And Brian Brohm has a solid arm and very decent mobility, as compared to
the statue that was Drew Bledsoe and he too had an absolute rocket attached to his right shoulder

BlindSite
04-05-2008, 08:40 PM
Well, other than the arm strength clearly. The mobility aspect I think is very similar between the two. Ryan probably has more of a Grossman arm.

So we'll settle it like that, Boller with a "classical" throwing motion and less arm strength.

Brohm my comparison was more mental than physical for Bledsoe, he strikes me as a cool customer that doesn't like pressure.

Maybe you would accept a young Jake Delhomme (delhomme was very mobile when younger)

Breaker
04-05-2008, 08:41 PM
They are if what I think they might become if they pan out. Just like I said. I'm very bad at player comparisons.

But you said you compare them to the player that first pops into your head, that means you don't know anything about the prospect strength/weakness and playing style.

and btw, theres a search option. this is a useless thread.

MetSox17
04-05-2008, 08:59 PM
Well, other than the arm strength clearly. The mobility aspect I think is very similar between the two. Ryan probably has more of a Grossman arm.

So we'll settle it like that, Boller with a "classical" throwing motion and less arm strength.

Brohm my comparison was more mental than physical for Bledsoe, he strikes me as a cool customer that doesn't like pressure.

Maybe you would accept a young Jake Delhomme (delhomme was very mobile when younger)

That's the thing, Ryan doesn't strike me as a mobile Quarterback.. at all.
Boller was (coming out) and still is very mobile. As far as Grossman, he too has very good arm strength. I like the Hasselbeck comparison to Ryan instead of the two you used.

And Brohm as a younger Delhomme, that sounds a lot more reasonable. Joe Flacco looks a lot like a more mobile Drew Bledsoe

BlindSite
04-05-2008, 09:07 PM
Ryan isn't ever going to rush for 50 yards in a game, but he's very good at eluding pocket pressure, it wasn't unusual for DEs to come screaming off the edge after him and clutch nothing but air,

katnip
04-06-2008, 08:28 PM
So no one thinks Matt Ryan can ever have a Derek Anderson type year?

I did comparisons for the impact I think they COULD have if they reach their high expectations.

SmallTownScout
04-07-2008, 01:38 AM
TE Jacob Tamme-- WR Marques Colston (Tamme--position change)
FB Jacob Hester-- OLB Scott Shanle (Hester-- position change)
WR Early Doucet-- WR Arnaz Battle
DT Trevor Laws-- DT Johnathan Babineaux
DRC-- Deon Sanders
Aqib Talib-- Ronde Barber
Mike Jenkins-- Antrel Rolle
Leodis McKelvin-- Carlos Rodgers (as a CB)
Joe Flacco-- Drew Bledsoe (but faster)
Chad Henne-- Tom Brady
Johnathan Stewart-- Jerome Bettis
Curtis Lofton-- Zach Thomas
Branden Albert-- Alan Faneca
Brian Brohm-- Eli Manning
Josh Johnson-- Drew Brees (not as refined, but more athletic)
Chevis Jackson-- Brian Kelly
I feel like I'm beginning to stretch it, so I'll quit...

waazup
04-07-2008, 01:49 AM
Jacob Tamme-- Marques Colston
Jacob Hester-- Scott Shanle
Early Doucet-- Arnaz Battle
Trevor Laws-- Jordan Babineaux
DRC-- Deon Sanders
Aqib Talib-- Ronde Barber
Mike Jenkins-- Antrel Rolle
Leodis McKelvin-- Carlos Rodgers (as a CB)
Joe Flacco-- Drew Bledsoe (but faster)
Chad Henne-- Tom Brady
Johnathan Stewart-- Jerome Bettis
Curtis Lofton-- Zach Thomas
Branden Albert-- Alan Faneca
Brian Brohm-- Eli Manning
Josh Johnson-- Drew Brees (not as refined, but more athletic)
Chevis Jackson-- Brian Kelly
I feel like I'm beginning to stretch it, so I'll quit...

Jacob Tamme is a TE, and nowhere near as athletic and physical as Colston. Hester is a FB, Shanle is a WLB for the Saints...WTF? Jordan Babineaux is a 200lb. safety, and your comparing that to a 300lb. DT? Stewart is big, but nowhere near as big as Bettis, and his running style is completely different.

SmallTownScout
04-07-2008, 01:55 AM
Jacob Tamme is a TE, and nowhere near as athletic and physical as Colston. Hester is a FB, Shanle is a WLB for the Saints...WTF? Jordan Babineaux is a 200lb. safety, and your comparing that to a 300lb. DT? Stewart is big, but nowhere near as big as Bettis, and his running style is completely different.

Criticism appreciated. Yes, I made a mistake with Babineaux (which I edited while you were posting this). I am aware of the Hester/Shanle position difference. On Tamme vs. Colston, most of their numbers are almost identical. Tamme isn't as physical or athletic as Colston, but his intelligence compensates in other ways (e.g., you don't have to be as athletic if you can anticipate defensive movements). I honestly think that if Hester moved to OLB in the NFL (which probably won't happen), he'd be pretty close to Shanle-- always aware of his responsibility, good effort, but unimpressive athletically. On Stewart, I just couldn't think of anyone else at the moment, but I wanted to get him in. Sorry, it's 2 AM...again, I appreciate the feedback (honestly).

bigG
04-07-2008, 02:51 AM
Darren McFadden = Lawrence Phillips is one of the most dead on comparisons I have read. Props to the poster who thought of that. Both have small lower bodies but can hit the homerun at any point in the game.

Balmer = Richard Seymour (Both multi-faceted d-tackles)

Dre Moore = Darnell Docket (both highly athletic d-tackles with pass rush ability) Docket is ripped out of his mind though.

Jonathan Stewart = Jamal Lewis ( Short squatty,powerfull, but fast backs. Lewis was faster though)

Trevor Laws = Kelley Greg ( Laws maybe a little quicker, but not as strong. Both were amazing highschool wrestlers)

Fred Davis = Chris Cooley ( Both undersized, but quick and high football intelligence)

Chad Henne = Marc Bulger ( Both undersized but can excell in the right system)

Limas Sweed = Plaxico Burress ( Both large receivers with big frames, but Burress was more productive)

Chris Long = Pat Kerney (Long is a little more athletic though)

Turtlepower
04-10-2008, 01:55 AM
Aqib Talib - Asante Samuel