NCAA Men's Championship Game: Kansas Vs. Memphis [Archive]

adschofield

04-05-2008, 11:13 PM

Gimme Memphis. Probably the two most talented teams in the country, but Calipari>>>>>>>Self

Well, they're both pretty crappy game coaches, but Self is by far the lesser of too evils...When I watch Memphis, it looks like they don't have a coach

fenikz

04-05-2008, 11:14 PM

I think Rose is gonna take it to the Jayhawks, he seems to be getting better as the tournament goes, plus he has only missed 3 FTs in his last 3 games

soybean

04-05-2008, 11:16 PM

snooze fest.

but i see memphis winning easily.

Shane P. Hallam

04-05-2008, 11:24 PM

I hope Kansas. Would give me a $150 payday :)

Wooty Magic!

04-05-2008, 11:27 PM

Memphis please.

princefielder28

04-05-2008, 11:30 PM

Who on Kansas can guard Derrick Rose??? Is there anyone in the nation that can guard Rose???

No and No!

bantx

04-05-2008, 11:32 PM

Memphis is too big!

adschofield

04-05-2008, 11:34 PM

Who on Kansas can guard Derrick Rose??? Is there anyone in the nation that can guard Rose???

No and No!

Just like Stephen Curry...err wait...

Oh, just like Hansborough...err wait...

You guys are kidding yourselves if you think we'll roll over and let Rose manhandle us...Everyone is saying the same things now that everyone said prior to the UNC game...It will be a great game.

This is the last I'm going to post on the subject because I know I have some pretty big homer glasses..Good night and good luck

JagHombre22

04-05-2008, 11:35 PM

Memphis has been raping bitches...Kansas has struggled at times...

adschofield

04-05-2008, 11:43 PM

One more thing...

We beat 'the beat team in the nation' by 20, and we still get no respect, unbelievable

JETS5128

04-05-2008, 11:46 PM

Memphis has been raping bitches...Kansas has struggled at times...

Each of them have had one close game...

LonghornsLegend

04-05-2008, 11:48 PM

One more thing...

We beat 'the beat team in the nation' by 20, and we still get no respect, unbelievable

Memphis blew everyone out they played, they dominated UCLA just as well, somebody has to pick a winner, just relish the underdog role if you have to...I never understand why everybody always wants respect for their team so much, if you win will respect even matter?

With that being said Memphis is too tall and athletic for Kansas to play with them...Their interior defense is tough and they score at a fast pace, they only lost one game this year by a few pts and other then that they have been great, im going with them as I think their team is really special.

Or maybe im just hating on the Jayhawks because Im a Texas fan and I dont want them to get any respect:rolleyes:

Oh and Memphis shot 87% from the FT line vs UCLA which was supposedly their only weakness, they will probably be the favorite to win and deservedly so.

T-RICH49

04-06-2008, 12:01 AM

Well, they're both pretty crappy game coaches, but Self is by far the lesser of too evils...When I watch Memphis, it looks like they don't have a coach

actually Self outcoached Roy tonight IMHO.I do not think he's as bad a coach as some are letting on...btw I have KU winning it all in my bracket so who do you think I'm going with

yodapoop

04-06-2008, 12:02 AM

Not switching up my pick from Selection Sunday, ROCK HAWK JAYHAWK! Even though I had the Tigers losing in the first round to UT-Arlington.

bantx

04-06-2008, 12:06 AM

go arlington :]

Billingsley26

04-06-2008, 12:11 AM

Memphis are men amongst boys out there. Not surprised at all that they manhandled UCLA. I like Kansas, I hope they pull it out. KU plays some pretty good defense, and I wont put anything by them. They manhandled UNC, like nobodies business. Gonna be a good one.

adschofield

04-06-2008, 12:13 AM

Kansas blew everyone out they played, they dominated UCLA just as well, somebody has to pick a winner, just relish the underdog role if you have to...I never understand why everybody always wants respect for their team so much, if you win will respect even matter?

With that being said Memphis is too tall and athletic for Kansas to play with them...Their interior defense is tough and they score at a fast pace, they only lost one game this year by a few pts and other then that they have been great, im going with them as I think their team is really special.

Or maybe im just hating on the Jayhawks because Im a Texas fan and I dont want them to get any respect:rolleyes:

Oh and Memphis shot 87% from the FT line vs UCLA which was supposedly their only weakness, they will probably be the favorite to win and deservedly so.

c'mon man, the big 12 must unite!

TitleTown088

04-06-2008, 01:12 AM

We have a College Basketball thread

Yeah, and we have a NFL thread. Do we still abandon a super bowl thread, who cares? It's the nation championship.

Memphis has been raping bitches...Kansas has struggled at times...

Kansas destroyed the #1 seeded team in the country, how is that struggling?

I'm surprised Memphis made it this far to tell you the truth. Kansas shoudl take it.

bearsfan_51

04-06-2008, 01:14 AM

I'm gonna go with Memphis, but that's based almost entirely off the fact that the Kansas fans on here are really annoying. If there were annoying Memphis fans on here I'd probably just root for the arena to explode.

BrownsTown

04-06-2008, 02:41 AM

Memphis has so much size and athleticism, and I think that, along with the fact that they're an amazing defensive team, will help them. It's pick your poison, if you keep a big guy on Douglas-Roberts, its a mismatch on Rose. If you slide your SG or SF over to guard Rose, you leave a mismatch on Douglas-Roberts. And Antonio Anderson is 6'6 as well. It's so tough to find good matchups on defense against Memphis. They've been hitting their free throws lately too. I definately got Memphis.

thetedginnshow

04-06-2008, 03:24 AM

Memphis has the size, athleticism, and the swagger. Plus, this feels like '03 all over again, except with a worse Kansas team and a more stacked Freshman-led team. Plus, Memphis looked dominant throughout their game. I don't know. I'd really like to see Kansas pull it off, but they're the definite underdog in this one.

As for whomever asked who can guard Rose, while no one can, Kansas at least has the rotational guard depth to combat Rose and CDR. At the very least they could get them a little tired. None of their main guards, even Rush, means as much to the team as CDR and Rose do to Memphis. If they can get Rose into foul trouble, we'll see. Hopefully it'll be a great game.

art vandelay

04-06-2008, 01:36 PM

Memphis FTW. Last play of the game will be Brandon Rush (#25, remember Michael Lee) spotting up in the corner for 3 to win it (down by 2) but then Joey Dorsey who just missed 2 free throws to clinch it comes seemingly out of nowhere to block it out of bounds in an eerily similar finish to Kansas' loss to Syracuse in '03.

kwilk103

04-06-2008, 02:20 PM

memphis

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adschofield

04-06-2008, 06:22 PM

Derrick Rose was on the cover also, it was a regional thing

adschofield

04-06-2008, 07:23 PM

Derrick Rose is having some stomach problems...probably shouldn't make a huge difference, but I thought it was at least worth noting

KCJ58

04-06-2008, 07:28 PM

Derrick Rose was on the cover also, it was a regional thing

yea so was Kevin Love

EvilMonkey

04-06-2008, 07:30 PM

Gimme Memphis. Probably the two most talented teams in the country, but Calipari>>>>>>>Self

i'm taking memphis but it isnt cuz of calipari. He's a great recruiter but isnt that great of a coach. Self>Calipari but Memphis is too talented and has to win so i win 2 tournament pools.

Namy

04-06-2008, 08:10 PM

I dont understand people saying "Kansas struggled against UNC" and "Memphis dominated UCLA". Kansas was up 40-12 on the the supposed number one team in the country. Sure, they let UNC back in the game, but everyone knows how easy it is to lose focus with bad shot selection with that big of a lead. In the end, Kansas got it done and still won by 18 points. To me, it showed that Kansas has the ability to be brilliant enough to rape quality opponents and that they have the mental strength to to switch gears despite giving up a huge lead.

Memphis was also in control in the game against UCLA, but I'd say they were far from dominating. Memphis pushed the lead up late in the game, but for the first 3/4 of the game, it was still anybody's game. Rose and CDR are just absolute beats though. Them running the fast break is absolutely scary.

However, with that said, I'm picking KU. Memphis sometimes seem to play out of control and I think that when they run into a solid defensive team as Kansas, it will hurt them. UCLA was also a great defensive team, but they didn't have as many athletic players imo, and there were too many mismatches that clearly favored Memphis. Rose and CDR are heralding all the praise, but I think people will be surprised by how fast KU is, even compared to Memphis.

adschofield

04-06-2008, 08:33 PM

Memphis sometimes seem to play out of control and I think that when they run into a solid defensive team as Kansas, it will hurt them. UCLA was also a great defensive team, but they didn't have as many athletic players imo, and there were too many mismatches that clearly favored Memphis. Rose and CDR are heralding all the praise, but I think people will be surprised by how fast KU is, even compared to Memphis.

That's exactly what I was thinking while watching the game...Memphis plays almost too fast at times, and I think if UCLA played more agressive defense, rather than their typical passive style, I think they could have come away with a win...Rose and CDR will get their's...but I think KU can slow them down just enough...Regardless, it should be a great game

yo123

04-06-2008, 09:37 PM

I don't think Memphis really plays out of control, other than Rose who takes some questionable shots at times.

bigG

04-07-2008, 04:12 AM

I'm torn because Ty Lawson and Joey Dorsey are both from Maryland. Dorsey graduated my senior year and I remember him tearing it up in the state championship game. I gotta go with Memhis though because I think they are a little tougher. It just seems all of their players have a swagger about themselves. Basically if it was a street fight , Memphis would pound Kansas. Its gonna be a good game though. Two of the most athletic teams I have ever seen in a final.

Shane P. Hallam

04-07-2008, 08:15 AM

Well, Ty Lawson isn't in the final :P

I think it comes to, can Kansas score on Memphis' defense? If they can get hot, I think they can put it away early.

Flyboy

04-07-2008, 10:07 AM

I'll go with D-Rose. Errr... Memphis.

JetsFanNick

04-07-2008, 10:26 AM

Ill go with Memphis...I dont think its going to be close though...I think Memphis by double digits maybe 10 or 12..

P-L

04-07-2008, 10:41 AM

Prediction: Kansas wins a close game and after the final whistle Bill Self runs to the nearest camera, gives the finger, then walks away.

EvilMonkey

04-07-2008, 02:17 PM

Prediction: Kansas wins a close game and after the final whistle Bill Self runs to the nearest camera, gives the finger, then walks away.

Is John Chaney gonna run on the court and just start laughing in Calipari's face as well??

CC.SD

04-07-2008, 02:18 PM

I've got to go with Kansas, their style of play is ferocious. I love D Rose as a prospect though. There's a part of me seriously considering if a team would take Lamar Odom's 14 million buck expirer (and dominant play this year) plus some of the Laker bench for a high lottery pick and subsequently Rose. I don't think Odom gets resigned with Bynum's max contract coming up anyway.

And then I woke up. I guess I've been spoiled by the Gasol trade.

LonghornsLegend

04-07-2008, 02:38 PM

That's exactly what I was thinking while watching the game...Memphis plays almost too fast at times, and I think if UCLA played more agressive defense, rather than their typical passive style, I think they could have come away with a win...Rose and CDR will get their's...but I think KU can slow them down just enough...Regardless, it should be a great game

EXACTLY...and other teams play too slow, and the end result is teams not keeping up more times then none.

Shane P. Hallam

04-07-2008, 02:45 PM

What happened to ad not posting in this thread?

OSUGiants17

04-07-2008, 03:13 PM

at the begining of the tourny I would have said Kansas>Memphis, but now I say Memphis>All

adschofield

04-07-2008, 05:00 PM

What happened to ad not posting in this thread?

I failed...miserably...sorry, I can't help it

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)

04-07-2008, 08:13 PM

This is you ads:
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yo123

04-07-2008, 08:21 PM

I'll go with D-Rose. Errr... Memphis.

It's strange that you imply that he is the whole team, when he is the second best player on the team.

The Dynasty

04-07-2008, 09:16 PM

Im going with Kansas mainly because Im in a bracket pool and if Kansas Wins I win so Go KU. Im a little worried though. Memphis has looked good lately.

Shane P. Hallam

04-07-2008, 10:22 PM

Kansas doing solid so far, but not great.

Flyboy

04-07-2008, 11:08 PM

It's strange that you imply that he is the whole team, when he is the second best player on the team.

... seriously? CDR is good ish too, but he's not on Rose's level.

yo123

04-07-2008, 11:12 PM

... seriously? CDR is good ish too, but he's not on Rose's level.

Maybe not pro talent wise, but CDR has been undervalued all year long. It's close, but Rose is making me look kinda stupid right now.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)

04-07-2008, 11:14 PM

Rose is straight ballin' right now.

Flyboy

04-07-2008, 11:20 PM

Maybe not pro talent wise, but CDR has been undervalued all year long. It's close, but Rose is making me look kinda stupid right now.

CDR is undervalued, but he still isn't on Rose's level.

Shane P. Hallam

04-07-2008, 11:25 PM

Down to 2. Kansas is still in it.

MichaelJordanEberle (sabf)

04-07-2008, 11:25 PM

What a game.

yo123

04-07-2008, 11:25 PM

CDR is undervalued, but he still isn't on Rose's level.

As a college player he is, he, not Rose but CDR was the conference player of the year. Rose has been better in the tourney, but CDR has had a better overall season.

Shane P. Hallam

04-07-2008, 11:29 PM

Man, Kansas really blew it not getting that rebound. They could have had a good shot.

yo123

04-07-2008, 11:31 PM

So are the free throws still not an issue Calipari?

Paul

04-07-2008, 11:31 PM

Thank goodness for this great game.

Wooty Magic!

04-07-2008, 11:32 PM

Mannnnn great game!

Shane P. Hallam

04-07-2008, 11:32 PM

Man, that was as clutch a shot as any.

Michigan

04-07-2008, 11:32 PM

What A Shot

Geo

04-07-2008, 11:33 PM

So are the free throws still not an issue Calipari?
Confirmed.

Let's hear his lip service now.

skinzzfan25

04-07-2008, 11:33 PM

Chalmers is sick.

Shane P. Hallam

04-07-2008, 11:34 PM

Such an unreal game.

Bills2083

04-07-2008, 11:35 PM

Now who do you think is going to win it?

yo123

04-07-2008, 11:35 PM

Stop talking about that call. Could it have been any more obvious?

skinzzfan25

04-07-2008, 11:36 PM

Kansas is gonna win this, Memphis looks too flat.

Bills2083

04-07-2008, 11:38 PM

They're missing Dorsey A LOT

Shane P. Hallam

04-07-2008, 11:38 PM

Exactly. Dorsey is what is killing them. I thought of that when he fouled out, "If they go to OT..."

yo123

04-07-2008, 11:38 PM

Memphis looks totally clueless right now. Either Rose or CDR needs to take charge.

Paul

04-07-2008, 11:40 PM

Kansas D is on point. They are just sticking on Rose and CDR like there life depended on it.

Bills2083

04-07-2008, 11:42 PM

Bad move going for the 3 when they were down by 4

skinzzfan25

04-07-2008, 11:46 PM

Nice layup.

EDIT:

Nicer feet.

Bills2083

04-07-2008, 11:47 PM

EDIT: nevermind :(

Geo

04-07-2008, 11:50 PM

I didn't want to see Kansas win.

But Memphis missed their free throws.

yo123

04-07-2008, 11:51 PM

What the hell is so hard about a free throw anyway. It's wide open fifteen foot set shot. I just don't understand. 50 year old men can shoot 70% from the line.

Geo

04-07-2008, 11:54 PM

50-year-old Shaq, lol.

Shane P. Hallam

04-07-2008, 11:57 PM

WOOO! $150 in the bank baby!

Geo

04-08-2008, 12:00 AM

You made money on a loss that young men will remember for the rest of their lives. Awesome.

(I'm just razzing, Top Cat.)

Shane P. Hallam

04-08-2008, 12:08 AM

I did, I did. But haven't we all?

LonghornsLegend

04-08-2008, 03:16 AM

For some reason I felt bad for Calipari, I found myself rooting for him to win a ring more so then any players for Memphis...He coached up a great group of guys who were really attached to him, but props to Self for coming up with great schemes the last two games...They were tough interior for most of the game.