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BlindSite
04-06-2008, 07:47 PM
I got the idea from this thread: http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20549

My idea is basically, the best player ever to wear which Jersey number 1-99.

I'll edit this post with a list and a wiki link where possible if it gets rolling.





1.– Warren Moon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Moon)
2.–
3.– Daryle Lamonica (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daryle_Lamonica)
4.– Brett Favre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Favre)
5.– Paul Hornung (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hornung)
6.–
7.– John Elway (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Elway)
8.– Steve Young (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Young_%28American_football%29)
9.– Sonny Jurgensen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Jurgensen)
10.– Fran Tarkenton
11.– Phil Simms (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Simms)
12.– Tom Brady (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Brady)
13.– Dan Marino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino)
14.– Don Hutson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Hutson)
15.– Bart Starr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_Starr)
16.– Joe Montana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Montana)
17.– Doug Williams
18.– Peyton Manning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyton_Manning)
19.– Johnny Unitas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Unitas)
20.– Barry Sanders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Sanders)
21.–Deion Sanders Honorable Mention to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deion_Sanders) LaDanian Tomlinson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaDanian_Tomlinson)
22.– Emmit Smith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmit_Smith)
23.– Devin Hester
24.– Champ Bailey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champ_Bailey)
25.– Fred Bilentnikoff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Biletnikoff)
26.– Rod Woodson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Woodson)
27.- Steve Atwater (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Atwater)
28.– Darrell Green (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Green) Honorable Mentions to – Marshall Faulk, Curtis Martin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Faulk)
29.– Eric Dickerson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Dickerson)
30.– Terrell Davis
31.– Jim Taylor
32.– Jim Brown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Brown)
33.– Sammy Baugh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Baugh)
34.– Walter Payton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Payton)
35.– Aeneas Williams
36.– Jerome Bettis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Bettis)
37.– Doak Walker
38.– Arnie Herber
39.– Larry_Csonka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Csonka)
40.– Gale Sayers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gale_Sayers)
41.– Eugene Robinson
42.– Ronnie Lott (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Lott)
43.– Herm Edwards
44.– John Riggins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Riggins)
45.– Emlen Tunnel
46.–
47.– Mel Blount (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Blount)
48.– Moose Johnston
49.– Tony Richardson
50.– Mike Singletary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Singletary)
51.– Dick Butkus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Butkus)
52.– Ray Lewis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Lewis_%28American_football%29)
53.– Mick Tingelhoff
54.– Randy "Manster" White
55.– Derrick Brooks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derrick_Brooks)
56.– Lawrence Taylor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_taylor)
57.– Dwight Stephenson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Stephenson)
58.– Jack Lambert (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Lambert_%28American_football%29)
59.– Jack Ham
60.– Otto Graham (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Graham)
61.– Bill George
62.–
63.– Gene Upshaw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Upshaw)
64.–
65.– Gary Zimmerman
66.– Larry Little Honorable Mention to Ray Nitschke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Little)
67.– Bob Kuechenberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Kuechenberg)
68.– Will Shields Honorable Mention to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Shields)Kevin Mawae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Mawae)
69.– Tim Krumrie
70.– Rayfield Wright
71.– Larry Allen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Allen)
72.– Dan Dierdorf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osi_Umenyiora)
73.– Simon Fletcher
74.– Bruce Matthews (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Matthews_%28American_football%29)
75.– Deacon Jones Honorable Mention's in thread (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Ogden)
76.– Lou Groza (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Groza)
77.– Willi Roaf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Roaf)
78.– Bruce Smith – honorable mention to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Smith)Anthony Munoz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Munoz)
79.– Roosevelt Brown
80.– Jerry Rice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Rice)
81.– Tim Brown - (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Brown)Honorable Mention toTerrell Owens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrell_Owens)
82.– Ozzie Newsome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozzie_Newsome)
83.– Ted "The Mad Stork" Hendricks
84.– Randy Moss - Honoroable Mention to Shannon Sharpe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Moss)
85.– Jack Youngblood
86.– Buck Buchanon
87.– Willie Davis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Davis_%28defensive_end%29)
88.– Marvin Harrison - Honorable Mention to Alan Page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Harrison)
89.– Mike Ditka (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Ditka)
90.– Julius Peppers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Peppers)
91.–
92.– Reggie White (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_White)
93.– John Randle
94.– Charles Haley (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Haley)
95.– Richard Dent
96.– Cortez Kennedy
97.– Simeon Rice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simeon_Rice)
98.– Tony Siragusa
99.– Warren Sapp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Sapp)
00 - Jim Otto

Note: Will homers stop neg repping me because their man-crushes aren't on the list. Its a consensus thing. So stop the neg rep for nothing. This list isn't easy to put together.

A Perfect Score
04-06-2008, 07:50 PM
ray lewis is #52 and he is god...therefore, he should win that one

Joeyjr09
04-06-2008, 07:52 PM
Might as well do the QBs as they are the easiest. Elway takes 7. Favre takes 4. Marino takes 13. Manning takes 18. Montana takes 16. Steve Young takes 8. Tom Brady at 12.

Emmitt Smith at 22. Jerry Rice at 80. Warren Sapp at 99??

KCJ58
04-06-2008, 07:53 PM
maybe we should start with #1 and go from there


I say Jason Elam

JagHombre22
04-06-2008, 07:54 PM
I second that.....1=Jason Elam

Joeyjr09
04-06-2008, 07:54 PM
maybe we should start with #1 and go from there


I say Jason Elam

It'll take 2139828038012 years that way. Better off filling out the easier ones like the HOF QBs and the best ever to play the game and then fill in the numbers missing in between.

Thunder&Lightning
04-06-2008, 07:54 PM
no contest Warren Moon.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/football/nfl/07/26/moon0723/t1_moon2.jpg

regoob2
04-06-2008, 07:56 PM
34- Walter Payton
51- Dick Butkus
40- Gale Sayers

KCJ58
04-06-2008, 07:57 PM
18 - Peyton Manning
4 - Brett Favre
60 - Otto Graham

TheBuffaloBills
04-06-2008, 07:59 PM
00- The center for the Raiders who name is on the tip of my tongue

Thunder&Lightning
04-06-2008, 08:02 PM
way to confusing should just go in order...might take a while but the board has been dead lately anyway.

BlindSite
04-06-2008, 08:03 PM
If you could post wiki's to the definites it'll help too.

neko4
04-06-2008, 08:03 PM
no contest Warren Moon.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/football/nfl/07/26/moon0723/t1_moon2.jpg


Agreed


#92- Reggie White

Im_a_Romosexual
04-06-2008, 08:06 PM
00- The center for the Raiders who name is on the tip of my tongue

Jim Otto

20- Barry Sanders
21- Deion
22- Emmitt Smith
26- Rod Woodson
29- Eric Dickerson

lordquas
04-06-2008, 08:07 PM
the #20 - http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s264/TankerGuy4/Barry.jpg

the #56
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e80/KMethod/TaylorLawrence21.jpg

regoob2
04-06-2008, 08:08 PM
21- Deion Sanders

Thunder&Lightning
04-06-2008, 08:08 PM
7 john elway
18 peyton manning
28 marshall faulk

BlindSite
04-06-2008, 08:11 PM
Check the original post I've updated a most of the listed.

regoob2
04-06-2008, 08:11 PM
84- Randy Moss

DeathbyStat
04-06-2008, 08:12 PM
F brady give me Bradshaw

B-Dawk
04-06-2008, 08:15 PM
19 Johnny Unitas

Bengalsrocket
04-06-2008, 08:16 PM
Chad Johnson @ 85. Its a receiver number, and I can't think of any other good receiver who uses the number (maybe one is just eluding me right now)

lordquas
04-06-2008, 08:16 PM
i forgot about the #27
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/1500658.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF1939057D9939C83F106A34AC02C22041C33 5A5397277B4DC33E

and ronnie lott
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/pho/99~Ronnie-Lott-Posters.jpg

BlindSite
04-06-2008, 08:18 PM
F brady give me Bradshaw

Brady has one less ring, but more records. Gotta go with the guy who breaks offensive records.

BlindSite
04-06-2008, 08:23 PM
If you see a taken number but believe you know a better player post their wiki or something so people can compare.

DeathbyStat
04-06-2008, 08:24 PM
Brady has one less ring, but more records. Gotta go with the guy who breaks offensive records.

Bradshaw never lost a super bowl

BlindSite
04-06-2008, 08:26 PM
Well so far its 2 votes for Brady and one for Bradshaw, first to 5 gets the number.

rumfinator
04-06-2008, 08:28 PM
Number 88

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc274/rumfinator/swannieforgovvie.jpg

thefridge15
04-06-2008, 08:28 PM
#32 - Jim Brown or Franco Harris
#88 - Michael Irvin or Lynn Swann
#14 - Y.A. Tittle

EdReedUnstoppable
04-06-2008, 08:28 PM
20 has to be either Barry Sanders or Ed Reed, I'd go with Barry.

regoob2
04-06-2008, 08:29 PM
32- Jim Brown
12- Brady

rumfinator
04-06-2008, 08:32 PM
#81 = Tim Brown
.....I hate to say it, but I will go with Brady at #12

BlindSite
04-06-2008, 08:32 PM
Need more linemen, can anyone think of a better #90 than JPep.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
04-06-2008, 08:33 PM
Sonny Jurgensen for #9.

Deacon Jones for #75.

Adam Vinatieri for #4. (Packers fans will want my blood for that)

I forgot about Favre before writing this.

B-Dawk
04-06-2008, 08:33 PM
88 should be Alan Page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Page

http://64.17.171.58/images/page.jpg

BigJohn98
04-06-2008, 08:33 PM
I don't know many 71s, but Tony Boselli was damn good.

BlindSite
04-06-2008, 08:34 PM
#81 = Tim Brown
.....I hate to say it, but I will go with Brady at #12

Tim Brown over TO put to a vote.

Bengalsrocket
04-06-2008, 08:35 PM
I would go Moss @ 81 over TO...

did moss change his number or something? how do we have him at 84? he's number 81

rumfinator
04-06-2008, 08:36 PM
#87 = Keenan McCardell...I not to old to remember other 87's.

BlindSite
04-06-2008, 08:38 PM
I would go Moss @ 81 over TO...

did moss change his number or something? how do we have him at 84? he's number 81

He wore 84 during his time in minnesota, plus there's other players for 81 but not many for 84.

rumfinator
04-06-2008, 08:38 PM
Tim Brown over TO put to a vote.
Its a tough one, but I will go with pure class over an entire career than TO.

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
04-06-2008, 08:39 PM
I would go Moss @ 81 over TO...

did moss change his number or something? how do we have him at 84? he's number 81

Moss was 84 in Minnesota.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-06-2008, 08:39 PM
TO > Brown

15 Bart Starr
73 Larry Allen
5 Paul Hornung

AkiliSmith
04-06-2008, 08:39 PM
78 - Anthony Munoz

rumfinator
04-06-2008, 08:40 PM
Bruce Matthews at 74
Bart Starr at 15

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
04-06-2008, 08:42 PM
Anthony Munoz for #78 or Jackie Slater for #78?

Not sure about those two.

Mike Ditka for #89.

Paul Warfield for #42.

Bengalsrocket
04-06-2008, 08:42 PM
Moss was 84 in Minnesota.

Kind of messes with everything if we're not using their last number. He might be the best 84, but he's also the best 81 =P

BlindSite
04-06-2008, 08:43 PM
Marvin Harrison in the 88 I think is more appropriate than Irvin or Swann?

rumfinator
04-06-2008, 08:43 PM
Marvin Harrison in the 88 I think is more appropriate than Irvin or Swann?
good point actually!

devinhester=R.O.Y 2006
04-06-2008, 08:45 PM
Kind of messes with everything if we're not using their last number. He might be the best 84, but he's also the best 81 =P

Too bad Peyton has 18 already locked up or we could have gone back to Randy's days in Oakland.

Go Blue
04-06-2008, 08:46 PM
Pat Tillman #40

lordquas
04-06-2008, 08:47 PM
73 the big trucka; larry allen

Bengalsrocket
04-06-2008, 08:47 PM
Too bad Peyton has 18 already locked up or we could have gone back to Randy's days in Oakland.

lol I think we need to set a rule.

1) Do you only use the player's last / most current number.

or...

2) You can use any player's number, however he can either A) only be placed on the list once, or B) be placed on the list multiple times (and only reflect his stats of when he wore the number in judging if he was the best?)

neko4
04-06-2008, 08:48 PM
33- Sammy Baugh
2- Aaron Brooks, hahaha
15- Colt Brennan, one day lol
11- Phil Simms

TimD
04-06-2008, 08:48 PM
nevermind... 73 is larry allen

keylime_5
04-06-2008, 08:48 PM
I think you could argue Paul Warfield vs Ronnie Lott for 42.

Go Blue
04-06-2008, 08:49 PM
Derrick Thomas #58

regoob2
04-06-2008, 08:50 PM
Kind of messes with everything if we're not using their last number. He might be the best 84, but he's also the best 81 =PNot really, Moss should go into the HOF with the #84.

AkiliSmith
04-06-2008, 08:50 PM
58 - Jack Lambert
89 - Ditka
50 - Singletary
25 - Biletnikoff
21 - Tomlinson over Deion

Thunder&Lightning
04-06-2008, 08:51 PM
58 - Jack Lambert
89 - Ditka
50 - Singletary
25 - Biletnikoff
21 - Tomlinson over Deion

agree accept for tomlinson

skinzzfan25
04-06-2008, 08:51 PM
Faulk over Darrell Green????

Ehhh, no.

EDIT:

And Sammy Baugh should be at #33. I can't think of anyone else, but he's probably the most deserving.

regoob2
04-06-2008, 08:51 PM
Pat Tillman #40Don't know if he's the best but is the probably everyones favorite.

lordquas
04-06-2008, 08:52 PM
#87 ed mccaffrey

#81 has to be TO unless theres someone else

regoob2
04-06-2008, 08:53 PM
58 - Jack Lambert
89 - Ditka
50 - Singletary
25 - Biletnikoff
21 - Tomlinson over Deion
No way, Deion is a lot better than Tomlinson. I'd go Green over Faulk also.

vidae
04-06-2008, 08:54 PM
Derrick Thomas #58

Amen to that one.

regoob2
04-06-2008, 08:55 PM
Amen to that one.
58 has to be Lambert imo.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-06-2008, 08:57 PM
And Sammy Baugh should be at #33. I can't think of anyone else, but he's probably the most deserving.

TD, Tony Dorsett

rumfinator
04-06-2008, 09:00 PM
#36 = Jerome Bettis

regoob2
04-06-2008, 09:02 PM
78- Bruce Smith. He should at least get some consideration.

skinzzfan25
04-06-2008, 09:04 PM
TD, Tony Dorsett

TD isn't and won't be in the HOF. Dorsett was good and all, but Baugh revolutionized the quarterback position and was the most versatile person to ever play in the NFL. A top 15 (higher depending on list) QB, 2nd best net punter of all time, and a solid DB (record 4 INTs in 1 game). He's an all 50th and 75th anniversary NFL player.

Plus, he was one of the best college athletes of all time.

Im_a_Romosexual
04-06-2008, 09:10 PM
Just throwing a name out there.

and by TD I didn't mean Terrell Davis ("TD isn't and won't be in the HOF")

Go_Eagles77
04-06-2008, 09:18 PM
I say give 21 to Tomlinson and Deion Sanders can have 37. haha

Joeyjr09
04-06-2008, 09:19 PM
Larry Little at number 66.

Larry Csonka at number 39.

gdamac
04-06-2008, 09:27 PM
3 - Daryle Lamonica
81 -Tim Brown

throwback54milkman
04-06-2008, 09:33 PM
85 should be Gates over Chad Johnson

Mr. Anderson
04-06-2008, 09:36 PM
68-Will Shields

Xonraider
04-06-2008, 09:38 PM
81 Tim Brown, how did you miss that.

TimD
04-06-2008, 09:41 PM
larry csonka

http://www.phinatics.com/dougswebimages/zonkpromo.jpg

Joeyjr09
04-06-2008, 09:43 PM
Add me to the Tim Brown over TO group for number 81

BaLLiN
04-06-2008, 09:43 PM
Carl Banks 58?

http://www.prosportsmemorabilia.com/Images/Product/33-70/33-70447-P.jpg

lordquas
04-06-2008, 09:46 PM
85 should be Gates over Chad Johnson

yea it should be.

#72 could be osi umenyiora
#94s gotta be charles haley
http://www.vshfm.com/2006/haley_web.jpg
:confused: cowboys

TimD
04-06-2008, 09:46 PM
http://www.andrewdickerson.co.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/johnriggins.jpg

John Riggins (44 on both Wsh and Nyj)

Go_Eagles77
04-06-2008, 09:49 PM
72 Tra Thomas

TimD
04-06-2008, 09:49 PM
Kevin Mawae

[http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/topstory/sports/mawae_kevin1012.jpg

Top 5 center in nfl history imo

Bengalsrocket
04-06-2008, 09:51 PM
idk guys. Chad has been to more pro bowls than Antonio Gates. If more people think Gates is honestly better already, I'll concede though -- They're both great players.

lordquas
04-06-2008, 09:58 PM
#63 can go to gene upshaw http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/5472/upshawoak196719818bh.jpg

#76 is lou grozo
http://www.nflnut.com/store/media/8x10lougrozaphoto1.JPG

BlindSite
04-06-2008, 10:22 PM
update coming

RaiderFan
04-06-2008, 10:29 PM
81=timmy B

RaiderFan
04-06-2008, 10:44 PM
Dam jerry Rice's Stats are Phreakin Ridiculous

lordquas
04-06-2008, 10:57 PM
2 matt stover come onnnnnnnnn

Vikes99ej
04-06-2008, 10:59 PM
#88- Alan Page

Joeyjr09
04-06-2008, 11:03 PM
Have to say. Moving Deion to 37 is horrible. We need to go with the number that the guy has spent most of his career with. Hence Randy Moss having 84. He had 84 for alot longer that thus far has made more of an impact with 84 then his 1 season with 81 and his down years with 18.

Putting Deion at 37 is just stupid. He played with that for like what a year? As a nickel CB? Come on now. Just do what you did with most the other guys and put LT21 as an honorable mention to Deion.

Woody56
04-06-2008, 11:15 PM
Don Hutson should be 14

RaiderFan
04-06-2008, 11:17 PM
24 Willie brown Hall of Famer> champ bailey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Brown_%28football_player%29
9 pro bowls

RaiderFan
04-06-2008, 11:31 PM
Ray Guy-8
Ted Hendricks-83 HOF
Jack Tatum-31
Lester Hayes"the judge" 37
Mike Haynes-22 HOF
Howie Long-75 HOF
George Blanda- 16 HOF
Art Shell-78 HOF
JIM OTTO - 00 you forgot about the the 00 Hall of Famer best center ever

The bolds are the greatest at there numbers

Mr. Stiller
04-06-2008, 11:32 PM
#70 ~ Ernie Stautner, DT, Pittsburgh

Only guy to ever have a jersey retired officially by Pittsburgh. Best DT from the 50's and early 60's.

Basically Warren Sapp x 2 then.

#75... Jon Ogden.. Or Mean Joe Green? I'm sorry, I take Mean Joe.

#59 ... Jack Ham, First Tampa2 Style WLB and one of the best LB's in the history of the game.

#47. I take Mel Blount over John Lynch.

John Lynch is the best #47 since Free Agency IMO.. but Mel Blount is a HOFer and basically, a ridiculous athlete 6'3 220lb CB who they started making "Ty Law" Rules because of.

#63 is good... Gene Upshaw or Dermontti Dawson.

Dirt was the best center ever to play, so I really can't decide there both absolutely great Offensive lineman.


If you didn't have Deion Sanders at #37 I'd Suggest Carnell Lake.

Donnie Shell would also be a good choice at #31.

I'd suggest:


31: Donnie Shell, SS
37: Carnell Lake, FS
47: Mel Blount, CB
59: Jack Ham, WLB
63: Dermontti Dawson, C
70: Ernie Stautner, DT
75: "Mean" Joe Greene, DT
95: Greg Lloyd, OLB
98: Casey Hampton, NT

MetSox17
04-06-2008, 11:32 PM
I figure Chris Carter could at least get a little dap at 80.. geez, it aint his fault the only WR that has been greater than him also wore 80 lol

jth1331
04-06-2008, 11:49 PM
#27: Steve Atwater
#30 should be Terrell Davis
#65 should be Gary Zimmerman
#66 I would recommend a mention of Tom Nalen, who's been an amazing center who gets little recognition
#73 i'll throw a name out there, Simon Fletcher
#84 should get a mention for one of the best TE in NFL history, Shannon Sharpe

DHVF
04-06-2008, 11:50 PM
10 - Fran Tarkenton
At 81 I'll put a vote in for Carl Eller
88 - Alan Page
64 - Randall McDaniel
93 - Possibly John Randle?
22 - While I agree that Smith prolly should b on top, Paul Krause also deserves some recognition...same with Carter at 80

PackerLegend
04-06-2008, 11:51 PM
Great Idea... Some Packer Hall Of Famers

Tony Canadeo-3
Paul Hornung-5
James Lofton-20
Willie Wood-24
Herb Adderley-26
Jim Taylor-31
Jim Ringo-51
Ray Nitschke-66
Forrest Gregg-75

and I didnt forget Favre or Reggie White you I noticed you already had them.

RaiderFan
04-06-2008, 11:52 PM
Jack Tatum>Priest Holmes for 31

neko4
04-06-2008, 11:55 PM
Ahman Green for #30, until someone picks a better player i guess

RaiderFan
04-06-2008, 11:55 PM
93=John Randle
95=Richard Dent

RaiderFan
04-06-2008, 11:58 PM
78- Bruce Smith. He should at least get some consideration.

Art shell or Bruce Smith ? Good Question both Hall of Famers

BlindSite
04-07-2008, 12:24 AM
I'll do another update later on tonight, want to do some other stuff. Keep listing names though.

JonasBlane
04-07-2008, 12:52 AM
59 needs to be Jack Ham, no question.
75 should be Joe Greene over Ogden.
47 should be Mel Blount over John Lynch.
Hines Ward is the best 86 I can think of off the top of my head.
Mike Webster needs an HM at 52
91= Kevin Greene


The list is in some serious need of Steeler love.

ChezPower4
04-07-2008, 12:57 AM
there is no way that Derrell Green gets 28 over Marshall Faulk, you are out of your mind.

Mr. Stiller
04-07-2008, 01:05 AM
59 needs to be Jack Ham, no question.
75 should be Joe Greene over Ogden.
47 should be Mel Blount over John Lynch.
Hines Ward is the best 86 I can think of off the top of my head.
Mike Webster needs an HM at 52
91= Kevin Greene


The list is in some serious need of Steeler love.


I thought of Webby, Ward and Greene but I didn't feel that we needed 20 Steelers on here.

But I agree on Ham, Greene, Blount.

nobodyinparticular
04-07-2008, 03:14 AM
I'll nominate Ted "The Mad Stork" Hendricks for the #83. He has 25 freaking blocked kicks. He was selected as an All-Pro 11 times in his career and ended up with 60 sacks and 26 INTs. He also recovered a total of 16 fumbles. He won 4 Super Bowls with 2 different teams.

nobodyinparticular
04-07-2008, 03:16 AM
Jack Tatum>Priest Holmes for 31

No kidding...

NJ_J_Witt_fan
04-07-2008, 03:16 AM
# 54 Randy "Manster" White
# 70 Rayfield Wright

nobodyinparticular
04-07-2008, 03:17 AM
If Howie Long does not get #75 it is a tragedy.

nobodyinparticular
04-07-2008, 03:25 AM
Buck Buchanon for #86. Hines Ward isn't even close to a Hall of Famer, much less greatest of all time for the number.

Random note: #78 is a really stacked number--you have Shell, Munoz, Bruce Smith and Jackie Slater.

Personally I'd go with Munoz or Shell. Smith was great, yes, but while he has the most sacks, I would not call him the best at his position. The best LTs ever are either Munoz or Shell.

nobodyinparticular
04-07-2008, 03:30 AM
No way does Osi earn the right to be on this. Ed "Too Tall" Jones or Dan Diedorf are far better than him.

Check back in a decade maybe.

BlindSite
04-07-2008, 04:30 AM
Some of the names were just place holders it takes time to do a decent list and having someone without the best claim to make people pissed off and therefore think is better than nothing.

Update later tonight.

neko4
04-07-2008, 04:40 AM
Roosevelt Brown 79
Mel Blount 47
Fran Tarkenton 10

D-Rod
04-07-2008, 05:52 AM
Giving Deion #37 to squeeze in LT is a total cop-out.

Deion is THE #21. He has to go in at #21. He's better than LT. Therefore LT has to lose out. Besides, there are plenty of RBs in there.

lordquas
04-07-2008, 05:59 AM
there needs to be someone better than ahman green for #30

Joeyjr09
04-07-2008, 06:06 AM
John Randle number 93.

Daryl Johnson is much better then Stephen Davis at number 48.

Doak Walker needs to be number 37. He actually wore it for most his career.

Number 98 is Tony Siragusa.

Gay Ork Wang
04-07-2008, 07:30 AM
#54 - Urlacher,[extreme mode] #23 - Devin Hester [/extreme mode]

Shane P. Hallam
04-07-2008, 08:44 AM
00 - Jim Otto

Addict
04-07-2008, 09:15 AM
I think Fran Tarkenton has first dibs on #10

the_legend_killer
04-07-2008, 09:24 AM
I'd nominate future HOFer Randall McDaniel for #64

The Hurricane
04-07-2008, 09:59 AM
75 should be Howie Long with an Honorable Mention of Mean Joe Greene. As good as Ogden is, he is not worth mentioning with the insane competition at that number.

Sanders should be listed at 21, that is his true number. LDT fans need to suck it up and deal.

mat33
04-07-2008, 10:27 AM
8=Troy Aikman, he was better than Steve Young.

Brent
04-07-2008, 10:28 AM
1 - Warren Moon
4 - Brett Farve
7 - John Elway
8 - Steve Young
10 - Fran Tarkenton
16 - Joe Montana
20 - Barry Sanders
21 - Deon Sanders
22 - Emmitt Smith
24 - Champ Bailey (I don't know enough #24's)
28 - Curtis Martin or Darrell Green
32 - Jim Brown
51 - Dick Butkus
56 - Lawrence Taylor
80 - Jerry Rice
81 - Tim Brown
88 - Michael Irvin
94 - Charles Haley
99 - Warren Sapp

That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

Bengalsrocket
04-07-2008, 10:53 AM
Steve Young over Aikman? I think we got to fix this and go with Aikman

EvilMonkey
04-07-2008, 10:54 AM
Havent looked at everything in this thread, just basing these on what has been on the list. Just thought of some old Packers I thought should be on there.


Former Packer DE Willie Davis is a better 87 than Ed McCaffery
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Davis_%28defensive_end%29

Arnie Herber for 38
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnie_Herber

I'd take Don Hutson as 14, absolutely revolutionized the WR position and still holds some records, Tittle was a great QB but Hutson revolutionized the game so much.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Hutson

EvilMonkey
04-07-2008, 10:57 AM
Steve Young over Aikman? I think we got to fix this and go with Aikman

no, it is correct.

Addict
04-07-2008, 11:22 AM
8=Troy Aikman, he was better than Steve Young.

I don't know how to tell you this... oh wait... NO

LonghornsLegend
04-07-2008, 11:32 AM
I guess Braylon Edwards could get 17, unless there is someone better...at least this past season was pretty high in terms of best seasons for a WR, he's not a HOF by any means yet dont know of any better options and he looks like he should be a pretty dominant WR for some years

T-RICH49
04-07-2008, 11:35 AM
69. Jared Allen

senormysterioso
04-07-2008, 11:40 AM
30 - Terrell Davis

NY+Giants=NYG
04-07-2008, 12:09 PM
85 should be Gates over Chad Johnson

Don't forget Art Monk.





Also, here are the numbers for the Hall of famers already in. So people can see who has what number as of now.



http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/jerseys-number.jsp

0 Henry
00 OTTO
1 CONZELMAN, DRISCOLL, FLAHERTY, FRIEDMAN, LAMBEAU, MOON, POLLARD, Thorpe
2 Driscoll, Kiesling, Lyman, TRIPPI
3 CANADEO, NAGURSKI, STENERUD, Thorpe
4 LEEMANS, Nevers
5 HORNUNG, MCAFEE
6 Flaherty, Friedman
7 CLARK, ELWAY, HALAS, HEIN, PARKER, WATERFIELD
8 AIKMAN, McDonald, WILSON, YOUNG
9 JURGENSEN, Owen
10 McNally, Stenerud, TARKENTON
11 GUYON, LYMAN, Nevers, Pollard, Strong, VAN BROCKLIN
12 BRADSHAW, GRIESE, Herber, KELLY, Lyman, NAMATH, STAUBACH
13 CHAMBERLIN, HENRY, MARINO, MAYNARD, STYDAHAR, TRAFTON
14 Biletnikoff, FOUTS, GRAHAM, HUTSON, Lambeau, Lyman, McNally, TITTLE
15 McNally, STARR, VAN BUREN
16 BLANDA, DAWSON, GIFFORD, HEALEY, Herber, Kiesling, MONTANA, MUSSO, Nagurski
17 BADGRO, EDWARDS, Friedman
18 Dawson, Henry, JOINER, Kiesling, THOMAS
19 ALWORTH, Christiansen, Flaherty, Michalske, Montana, UNITAS
20 BARNEY, BATTLES, Flaherty, Henry, Lambeau, McNally, RENFRO, SANDERS
21 FORTMANN, Friedman, Thorpe
22 Blanda, GATSKI, HAYNES, KRAUSE, LAYNE, Lofton, Michalske, Nevers, WEHRLI
24 Alworth, BROWN, CHRISTIANSEN, McNally, MOORE, WOOD
25 BILETNIKOFF, Kiesling, KINARD, MCDONALD, Van Brocklin
26 ADDERLEY, Driscoll, Friedman, Krause
27 HOUSTON, Hubbard
28 GREEN, LARY, Michalske
29 Badgro, DICKERSON, Flaherty, Houston, McDonald
30 HINKLE, Matson, WILLIS, Wojciechowicz
31 Michalske, Parker, TAYLOR
32 ALLEN, Badgro, BROWN, HARRIS, SIMPSON
33 BAUGH, DORSETT, MATSON, Michalske, Nitschke, Simpson
34 CAMPBELL, Harris, PAYTON, PERRY, THOMAS
35 Campbell, DUDLEY, JOHNSON, Kiesling, PIHOS
36 Hubbard, Michalske, Motley, Owen, Simpson
37 JOHNSON, WALKER
38 HERBER, Hubbard
39 CSONKA, Hinkle, Hubbard, MCELHENNY
40 Haynes, Hinkle, HIRSCH, Hubbard, Joiner, SAYERS
41 Herber, Hubbard
42 LOTT, LUCKMAN, Nomellini, TAYLOR, WARFIELD
44 Casper, Dudley, Flaherty, KELLY, Kinard, Nevers, Owen, RIGGINS, Weinmeister
45 TUNNELL, Willis
46 Groza
47 BLOUNT
49 Kiesling, MITCHELL
50 Ford, MILLNER, Otto, Owen, SINGLETARY, STRONG, WOJCIECHOWICZ
51 BUTKUS, Hubbard, RINGO
52 GATSKI, WEBSTER
53 CARSON, Ford, Webster, Wojciechowicz
54 Ringo, RANDY WHITE
55 Fears, McNally, OWEN
56 Hendricks, HEWITT, Lavelli, SCHMIDT, TAYLOR, TIPPETT
57 McNally, STEPHENSON
58 LAMBERT
59 HAM
60 BEDNARIK, Graham, Willis
61 GEORGE
62 LANGER, Trippi
63 LANIER, MUNCHAK, SELMON, Tittle, UPSHAW
64 Blanda, DELAMIELLEURE, Tittle, WILCOX
65 BETHEA, MACK, ZIMMERMAN
66 Buoniconti, HICKERSON, LITTLE, NITSCHKE, SHAW, TURNER
68 DELAMIELLEURE
70 DONOVAN, HUFF, STAUTNER, WRIGHT
71 CONNOR, DEAN, Eller, McCormack
72 DIERDORF, George, Jordan, Nitschke
73 HANNAH, Jones, Little, NOMELLINI, WEINMEISTER, YARY
74 DEAN, JORDAN, LILLY, MATTHEWS, MCCORMACK, MIX, OLSEN, Perry
75 GREENE, GREGG, JONES, LONG, Marchetti
76 BROWN, CREEKMUR, GROZA, MOTLEY
77 Davis, GRANGE, Lyman, Mix, PARKER
78 BELL, JONES, MUÑOZ, SHELL, SLATER
79 BROWN, Gregg, ST. CLAIR
80 FEARS, FORD, LARGENT, LOFTON, WINSLOW
81 ATKINS, Connor, ELLER, Jones, LANE, MONK, ROBUSTELLI, SMITH
82 BERRY, NEWSOME, Page, STALLWORTH
83 Atkins, Ford, HENDRICKS
84 Robustelli
85 BUONICONTI, Monk, Wright, YOUNGBLOOD
86 BUCHANAN, LAVELLI, Lofton
87 CASPER, DAVIS
88 IRVIN, MACKEY, PAGE, Parker, SANDERS, SWANN
89 Davis, DITKA, Mackey, MARCHETTI
91 Reggie White
92 REGGIE WHITE
98 Ditka
99 HAMPTON

Addict
04-07-2008, 12:13 PM
75 has a few nasty contenders...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deacon_Jones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howie_Long

2 guys besides Ogden who have a pretty good shot.

terribletowel39
04-07-2008, 12:14 PM
75 has a few nasty contenders...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deacon_Jones
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howie_Long

2 guys besides Ogden who have a pretty good shot.
Umm...Mean Joe.

Addict
04-07-2008, 12:19 PM
Umm...Mean Joe.

Him too, I didn't feel like doing too much research.

terribletowel39
04-07-2008, 12:22 PM
Him too, I didn't feel like doing too much research.
I didn't read any of the pages before yours but some people are acting like it is Howie Long hands down. Granted, most of them are Raider fans I believe but yea. #75 is a hard one to peg.

katnip
04-07-2008, 12:38 PM
Curtis "My Favorite" Martin deserves a honorable mention for #28.

Hawk
04-07-2008, 12:59 PM
41. Eugene Robinson ???

JT Jag
04-07-2008, 01:07 PM
Give David 4 or 5 more years and he'll totally overtake Sonny at #9.

Crazy_Chris
04-07-2008, 01:30 PM
Alan Page should definatly be #88, Fran Tarkenton should be #10, and John Randle should be #93. Also Randle McDaniel deserves consideration for #64.

Addict
04-07-2008, 01:32 PM
Alan Page should definatly be #88, Fran Tarkenton should be #10, and John Randle should be #93. Also Randle McDaniel deserves consideration for #64.

I saw you name in this thread and honestly thought you were going to pitch Cutler for #6.

bigbluedefense
04-07-2008, 02:00 PM
#75 should be Deacon Jones, not Jonathan Ogden.

Addict
04-07-2008, 02:09 PM
#75 should be Deacon Jones, not Jonathan Ogden.

I agree, but 75 has some competition, see above.

619
04-07-2008, 02:12 PM
Being a Raiders fan when I think of #75 I always think of Howie Long ..

but Deacon Jones should probably get it considering he's done as much for the game on the defensive side of the ball as anyone.

EvilMonkey
04-07-2008, 02:30 PM
Doak Walker is a better 37 than Deion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doak_Walker

I dont like putting Deion at 37 just to get him on the list. What he did while he was 37 doesnt make him deserving to be there. I think putting an honorable mention for either Deion or LT at 21 like you did with Faulk would work better. It's you're list after all so do what you want, just throwing my opinion out there.

Go_Eagles77
04-07-2008, 02:40 PM
Eh I was kinda joking when I said Deion should be 37.

EvilMonkey
04-07-2008, 02:43 PM
yeah, just see it on the main list now and wanted my opinion out there.

NJ_J_Witt_fan
04-07-2008, 02:51 PM
#54 - Urlacher,[extreme mode] #23 - Devin Hester [/extreme mode]

Urlacher is the man but u def can not put him over Randy White..... 9 time probowler....8times all pro..... 1000+ tackles..... 100+ sacks...... co- superbowl mvp

bigbluedefense
04-07-2008, 03:37 PM
I agree, but 75 has some competition, see above.

yeah a lot of greats wore that number.

but only Deacon is without question, at worst the top 2 at his position with that number.

Guys like Greene, Ogden, you can make arguments for 2 ppl ahead of them at their position all time. But Deacon is without question, at the very worst the 2nd best DE of all time.

And he is also one of the most influential players of all time, and probably the 2nd greatest defender of all time after Lawrence Taylor. The rest get honorable mention, but its gotta go to Deacon.

terribletowel39
04-07-2008, 03:49 PM
yeah a lot of greats wore that number.

but only Deacon is without question, at worst the top 2 at his position with that number.

Guys like Greene, Ogden, you can make arguments for 2 ppl ahead of them at their position all time. But Deacon is without question, at the very worst the 2nd best DE of all time.

And he is also one of the most influential players of all time, and probably the 2nd greatest defender of all time after Lawrence Taylor. The rest get honorable mention, but its gotta go to Deacon.
Not that I am totally rooting for Greene because it is questionable, but what DT was more important to there defense than Greene?? What DT has made a bigger impact?? And I'm assuming you are putting White ahead of Deacon??

Addict
04-07-2008, 03:51 PM
Urlacher is the man but u def can not put him over Randy White..... 9 time probowler....8times all pro..... 1000+ tackles..... 100+ sacks...... co- superbowl mvp

well he was being a homer...

Crazy_Chris
04-07-2008, 04:05 PM
yeah a lot of greats wore that number.

but only Deacon is without question, at worst the top 2 at his position with that number.

Guys like Greene, Ogden, you can make arguments for 2 ppl ahead of them at their position all time. But Deacon is without question, at the very worst the 2nd best DE of all time.

And he is also one of the most influential players of all time, and probably the 2nd greatest defender of all time after Lawrence Taylor. The rest get honorable mention, but its gotta go to Deacon.

I completely agree with you here Deacon is the best to wear #75.

Not that I am totally rooting for Greene because it is questionable, but what DT was more important to there defense than Greene?? What DT has made a bigger impact?? And I'm assuming you are putting White ahead of Deacon??

I know you aren't asking me but an arguement can be made for Alan Page.

terribletowel39
04-07-2008, 04:14 PM
I know you aren't asking me but an arguement can be made for Alan Page.
Yea but thats an arguement for the #1 spot. Deacon, according to BBD, is #2.

Deacon:
8x Pro Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Bowl) selection (1964 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1965_Pro_Bowl&action=edit&redlink=1), 1965 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1966_Pro_Bowl&action=edit&redlink=1), 1966 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1967_Pro_Bowl&action=edit&redlink=1), 1967 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1968_Pro_Bowl&action=edit&redlink=1), 1968 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1969_Pro_Bowl&action=edit&redlink=1), 1969 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1970_Pro_Bowl&action=edit&redlink=1), 1970 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Pro_Bowl), 1972 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Pro_Bowl))
8x All-Pro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Pro) selection (1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1972)
NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_75th_Anniversary_All-Time_Team)
NFL 1960s All-Decade Team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_1960s_All-Decade_Team)
1967 George S. Halas Trophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Halas_Trophy)
1968 George S. Halas Trophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Halas_Trophy)

Greene:
10x Pro Bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Bowl) selection (1969 (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1970_Pro_Bowl&action=edit&redlink=1), 1970 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Pro_Bowl), 1971 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1972_Pro_Bowl), 1972 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Pro_Bowl), 1973 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1974_Pro_Bowl), 1974 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Pro_Bowl), 1975 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Pro_Bowl), 1976 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Pro_Bowl), 1978 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Pro_Bowl), 1979 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Pro_Bowl))
11x All-Pro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-Pro) selection (1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979)
NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_75th_Anniversary_All-Time_Team)
NFL 1970s All-Decade Team (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_1970s_All-Decade_Team)
1969 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Defensive_Rookie_of_the_Year)
2x NFL Defensive Player of the Year (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_Defensive_Player_of_the_Year) (1972, 1974)
2x George S. Halas Trophy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Halas_Trophy) (1972, 1974)

Now remember I'm just saying it isn't hands down Jones. Long has to get consideration as well. Granted I don't think it is as high as Jones and Greene. And maybe the edge goes to Jones for being drafted in the way way later rounds as opposed to Greene who was first round.

Crazy_Chris
04-07-2008, 04:21 PM
No you got it all wrong what BBD said is Deacon is arguably the G.O.A.T. at DE and at worst #2 greatest DE(IMO Deacon=G.O.A.T.).

For the other people wearing #75 they are good players but the same can't be said definitively. That with how much of an influence Deacon had on the game makes him the best to wear #75.

terribletowel39
04-07-2008, 04:25 PM
No you got it all wrong what BBD said is Deacon is arguably the G.O.A.T. at DE and at worst #2 greatest DE(IMO Deacon=G.O.A.T.).

For the other people wearing #75 they are good players but the same can't be said definitively. That with how much of an influence Deacon had on the game makes him the best to wear #75.
Eh...I'll let other folks vote, it's too close for me to make the decision. Is there another number that is this hard??

Seanhawk
04-07-2008, 04:34 PM
Having Deion Sanders at #37 is a joke, right? He wore it for like 1 season at the end of his career. Not sure who wore the # before my lifetime, but in the modern era it has to go to Shaun Alexander or Rodney Harrison.

skinzzfan25
04-07-2008, 04:34 PM
Deacon > Greene

IMO.

lordquas
04-07-2008, 04:34 PM
27 is eddie george yall

Staubach12
04-07-2008, 05:08 PM
Woah, now. LT on the same level as Sanders? No, that's just flat out wrong. LT should not be on the list, and Sanders should have 21. LT is a great player, don't get me wrong, but you've got to go with THE (as in one) best at every number, no sharing here.

Sanders is the best football player of all time. Best CB ever, best returner ever (except maybe Hester, but that's jumping the gun), and a reliable receiver when in the game.

Addict
04-07-2008, 05:12 PM
I had an epiphany.

The pass-rush is all about getting sacks, right?

Who invented the term 'sacking the QB?' that's right... David 'Deacon' Jones.

Essentially, the first DE who sacked... #75. That IMO makes him the winner.

lordquas
04-07-2008, 05:20 PM
Sanders is the best football player of all time. Best CB ever, best returner ever (except maybe Hester, but that's jumping the gun), and a reliable receiver when in the game.

d. sanders or barry sanders was the best football player of all time.
i dont know really its too close for me.

Bengalsrocket
04-07-2008, 05:52 PM
d. sanders or barry sanders was the best football player of all time.
i dont know really its too close for me.


barry sanders was not the best football player of all time lol. Maybe you were being sarcastic?

SaintsFanForLife
04-07-2008, 06:22 PM
Since there is noone at 91 I vote Will Smith.

Hurricane Ditka
04-07-2008, 06:37 PM
Dan Hampton deserves 99 more than Warren Sapp does.

nobodyinparticular
04-07-2008, 06:37 PM
Since there is noone at 91 I vote Will Smith.

This #91 is far better than Will Smith.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGG0zWu_VIs

terribletowel39
04-07-2008, 06:39 PM
Dan Hampton deserves 99 more than Warren Sapp does.
No he doesn't and it isn't even close, in my opinion. Warren Sapp>>>>Dan Hampton everyday.

BaLLiN
04-07-2008, 06:45 PM
Im just trying to fill holes with players i know, 43 i think either Herm Edwards or Troy Polumalu

Hurricane Ditka
04-07-2008, 07:31 PM
No he doesn't and it isn't even close, in my opinion. Warren Sapp>>>>Dan Hampton everyday.
You're wrong.

MetSox17
04-07-2008, 07:37 PM
Does uh, Michael Irvin get any love at 88?

He's a HOF'er with three rings.

I'll take that any day over a guy that put up most of his numbers
in a pass happy offense with just one ring.

BaLLiN
04-07-2008, 07:48 PM
Um why is Osi #72 best ever? he really hasn't done that much, he is good, but hasnt done much. Maybe its also because no one knows a player who wore #72 and was better than him.

ATLDirtyBirds
04-07-2008, 07:49 PM
59-Michael Boley!

jth1331
04-07-2008, 10:50 PM
Posting again:
#27: Steve Atwater
#30 should be Terrell Davis
#65 should be Gary Zimmerman
#66 I would recommend a mention of Tom Nalen, who's been an amazing center who gets little recognition
#73 i'll throw a name out there, Simon Fletcher
#84 should get a mention for one of the best TE in NFL history, Shannon Sharpe

Woody56
04-07-2008, 10:56 PM
Does uh, Michael Irvin get any love at 88?

He's a HOF'er with three rings.

I'll take that any day over a guy that put up most of his numbers
in a pass happy offense with just one ring.

Harrison>>>>>Irvin

gdamac
04-08-2008, 12:30 AM
unless there is a better #46

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHOTOFILE/AADZ033~Todd-Christensen-Action-Posters.jpg

5 time probowler, but no HoF

kalbears13
04-08-2008, 12:36 AM
I was at work and they were selling this book...

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Number-Wore-What-Distinction/dp/0892048484

It had more than just football but it was still interesting...

00 - Jim Otto
01 - Jacques Plante
02 - Secretariat
03 - Babe Ruth
04 - Lou Gehrig
05 - Joe DiMaggio
06 - Bill Russell
07 - John Elway
08 - Cal Ripken Jr
09 - "The Hockey Trinity" (Gordie Howe, Bobby Hull & Rocket Richard)
10 - Pele
11 - Isiah Thomas
12 - Joe Namath
13 - Wilt Chamberlain
14 - Otto Graham
15 - Bart Starr
16 - Joe Montana
17 - John Havlicek
18 - Peyton Manning
19 - Johnny Unitas
20 - Barry Sanders
21 - Roberto Clemente
22 - Emmitt Smith
23 - Michael Jordan
24 - Wille Mays
25 - Barry Bonds
26 - Billy Williams
27 - Juan Marcial
28 - Marshall Faulk
29 - Ken Drydan
30 - Nolan Ryan
31 - Maddux
32 - Jim Brown
33 - Kareem Abdul-Jabar
34 - Sweetness
35 - Phil Niekro
36 - Medowlark Lemon
37 - Casey Stengel
38 - Curt Schilling
39 - Roy Campanella
40 - Gale Sayers
41 - Tom Seaver
42 - Jackie Robinson
43 - Richard Petty
44 - Hank Aaron
45 - Bob Gibson
46 - Lee Smith
47 - Mel Blount
48 - Jimmie Johnson
49 - Ron Guidry
50 - David Robinson
51 - Dick Butkus
52 - Ray Lewis
53 - Don Drysdale
54 - Goose Gossage
55 - Orel Hershiser
56 - LT
57 - Dwight Stephenson
58 - Jack Lambert
59 - Jack Ham
60 - Chuck Bednarik
61 - Bill George
62 - Charley Trippi
63 - Willie Lanier
64 - Jerry Kramer
65 - Elvin Bethea
66 - Mario Lemieux
67 - Bob Kuechenberg
68 - Jaromir Jagr
69 - Larry Costello
70 - Jim Marshall
71 - Alex Karras
72 - Carlton Fisk
73 - John Hannah
74 - Bob Lilly
75 - Mean Joe Greene
76 - Lou Groza
77 - Red Grange
78 - Anthiny Munoz
79 - Roosevelt Brown
80 - Jerry Rice
81 - Tim Brown
82 - Raymond Berry
83 - Ted Hendricks
84 - The Sharpe Brothers (Sterling & Shannon)
85 - Nick Buoniconti
86 - Buck Buchanan
87 - Willie Davis
88 - Alan Page
89 - Mike Ditka
90 - Bob Kurland
91 - Sergei Fedrov
92 - Reggie White
93 - Doug Gilmour
94 - Charles Haley
95 - Richard Dent
96 - Bill Voiselle
97 - Cornelius Bennett
98 - Tom Harmon
99 - Wayne Gretzky

Vikes99ej
04-08-2008, 12:43 AM
Harrison>>>>>Irvin

Alan Page > both of them.

Woody56
04-08-2008, 01:03 AM
Alan Page > both of them.

Marvin holds the record for receptions in a season with 143
Has a SB Ring
8x All Pro / 8x Pro bowler
5th All Time for receiving yards (will finish his career at 2 or 3)
4th All Time receptions (will finish his career at 2)
5th All Time for TD's for WR (will finish career at 3 or 4)

The guy has had an amazing career

The Dynasty
04-08-2008, 01:27 AM
Marvin holds the record for receptions in a season with 143
Has a SB Ring
8x All Pro / 8x Pro bowler
5th All Time for receiving yards (will finish his career at 2 or 3)
4th All Time receptions (will finish his career at 2)
5th All Time for TD's for WR (will finish career at 3 or 4)

The guy has had an amazing career

Yeah Saying Stats for a Guy now against a Guy back in the 70's doesnt work. Espically when One is a Defense and the Other is WR.


I say Page. Purple People Eaters.

Vikes99ej
04-08-2008, 01:29 AM
Marvin holds the record for receptions in a season with 143
Has a SB Ring
8x All Pro / 8x Pro bowler
5th All Time for receiving yards (will finish his career at 2 or 3)
4th All Time receptions (will finish his career at 2)
5th All Time for TD's for WR (will finish career at 3 or 4)

The guy has had an amazing career

Page:

9x Pro-Bowler / 11x All-Pro Selection
1971 NFL MVP
2x Defensive Player of the Year / 1970 NFC DPOY
148.5 Career Sacks
3 Career Safeties
218 Straight games Played

Woody56
04-08-2008, 01:40 AM
Page:

9x Pro-Bowler / 11x All-Pro Selection
1971 NFL MVP
2x Defensive Player of the Year / 1970 NFC DPOY
148.5 Career Sacks
3 Career Safeties
218 Straight games Played

Page had a great career aswell, just think Harrison's is better.

tom
04-08-2008, 02:03 AM
#7 Ben Roeth!

Woody56
04-08-2008, 02:14 AM
Also maybe Tony Richardson for 49. 3x all pro and has blocked for some record breaking RB's and can't think of another great 49.

BlindSite
04-08-2008, 02:24 AM
Update complete, 75 is staying as Deacon Jones if you want to debate it further I'd advice another thread.

88 is staying as Marvin Harrison who's one of the best receivers of All time and easily in the top 2 or 3 at the position to ever strap on cleats. Up until a year ago cornerbacks still rated him as the hardest man in the NFL to cover.

Deion is back to 21... so dry your eyes everyone who had a good cry.

Doug Williams was placed in at 17 even though realistically Jake Delhomme is a better QB just without the jewelery.

Keep giving me names and I'll update. If you're going to argue to replace a player, I need a wiki so I can compare and update its a pain in the ass to search for them all.

Mr. Stiller
04-08-2008, 03:06 AM
Update complete, 75 is staying as Deacon Jones if you want to debate it further I'd advice another thread.

88 is staying as Marvin Harrison who's one of the best receivers of All time and easily in the top 2 or 3 at the position to ever strap on cleats. Up until a year ago cornerbacks still rated him as the hardest man in the NFL to cover.

Deion is back to 21... so dry your eyes everyone who had a good cry.

Doug Williams was placed in at 17 even though realistically Jake Delhomme is a better QB just without the jewelery.

Keep giving me names and I'll update. If you're going to argue to replace a player, I need a wiki so I can compare and update its a pain in the ass to search for them all.

I'd have Deacon Jones and Joe Greene 1a/1b.

Deacon Jones invented the Sack. Joe Greene was the best DT to ever play.


Joe Greene

Career Highlights and Awards

* 10x Pro Bowl selection (1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979)
* 11x All-Pro selection (1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979)
* NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team
* NFL 1970s All-Decade Team
* 1969 NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year
* 2x NFL Defensive Player of the Year (1972, 1974)
* 2x George S. Halas Trophy (1972, 1974)


Deacon Jones...

Career Highlights and Awards

* 8x Pro Bowl selection (1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1972)
* 8x All-Pro selection (1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1972)
* NFL 75th Anniversary All-Time Team
* NFL 1960s All-Decade Team
* 1967 George S. Halas Trophy
* 1968 George S. Halas Trophy

Deacon Jones = 2 less Pro-bowls, 2 less All-pros, No DROY or DPOY

Dam8610
04-08-2008, 04:43 AM
I lobby for the following changes:

3 - Bronko Nagurski
14 - Otto Graham or Dan Fouts (Graham isn't 60)
24 - Jack Christiansen or Willie Wood
31 - Jim Taylor (only man not named Jim Brown to lead NFL in rushing when Jim Brown played)
45 - Emlen Tunnell (nickname: offense on defense)
60 - Chuck Bednarik
61 - Bill George (invented MLB position)
63 - Willie Lanier
66 - Ray Nitchske
70- Art Donovan or Sam Huff
72 - Dan Dierdorf
73 - John Hannah
74 - Merlin Olsen
81 - Dick "Night Train" Lane
82 - Raymond Berry
85 - Jack Youngblood or Nick Buoniconti
89 - Gino Marchetti (voted best DE of first 50 years of NFL)

All of the above are Hall of Famers, for bios, go to profootballhof.com.

art vandelay
04-08-2008, 07:30 AM
#83 - Andre Reed.

draftguru151
04-08-2008, 11:54 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Stephenson

57

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Kuechenberg

67

Addict
04-08-2008, 12:01 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_Stephenson

57

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Kuechenberg

67

that jason taylor quote on Kuechenberg's page is funny as hell.

jth1331
04-08-2008, 01:57 PM
Atwater (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Atwater) > Eddie George (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_George)

Atwater:
8 Pro Bowls in 11 years
6 All Pro's
2 Rings
24 INT's
1356 tackles
1990 All Decade team

George:
4 Pro Bowls
3 All Pro's
ROY
10,441 rushing yards
78 TD's

Atwater was a premier safety and should be considered for the HOF for what he did during the 90's.

Crazy_Chris
04-08-2008, 02:28 PM
Page had a great career aswell, just think Harrison's is better.

Update complete, 75 is staying as Deacon Jones if you want to debate it further I'd advice another thread.

88 is staying as Marvin Harrison who's one of the best receivers of All time and easily in the top 2 or 3 at the position to ever strap on cleats. Up until a year ago cornerbacks still rated him as the hardest man in the NFL to cover.

Deion is back to 21... so dry your eyes everyone who had a good cry.

Doug Williams was placed in at 17 even though realistically Jake Delhomme is a better QB just without the jewelery.

Keep giving me names and I'll update. If you're going to argue to replace a player, I need a wiki so I can compare and update its a pain in the ass to search for them all.

No disrespect to Marvin Harrison who is a great player himself but he is not a better player than Alan Page. I wouldn't say Harrison is easily one of the top 2 or 3 at his position(granted he still has a couple more years) Jerry Rice is definatly in front of him Don Hutson, Randy Moss are also in front of him and maybe even Cris Carter. Alan Page is arguably the G.O.A.T. at DT one of the most disruptive defensive players to ever lace em up especailly at DT he was damn near unblockable. Page was only the first defensive player ever to earn MVP honors he was 2 time Defensive player of the year(1971, 1973). Page blocked 28 kicks in his career, recovered 23 opponent fumbles, recording 3 career safeties and the HOF's website credits Page with an unofficial 173 career sacks. Just to put that sack number in perspective John Randle the all time sack leader at DT has only 137.5 career sacks.

jth1331
04-08-2008, 02:30 PM
Just want to add on the Page vs. Harrison debate:
Page won 2 DPOY awards and a NFL MVP award. What the heck has Marvin Harrison won?

CC.SD
04-08-2008, 03:20 PM
Just want to add on the Page vs. Harrison debate:
Page won 2 DPOY awards and a NFL MVP award. What the heck has Marvin Harrison won?

How about a Super Bowl? ziiinnng

terribletowel39
04-08-2008, 03:26 PM
How about a Super Bowl? ziiinnng
thats a game. and not an individual performance/award. Page gets it. ziiinnng.

BlindSite
04-08-2008, 07:07 PM
thats a game. and not an individual performance/award. Page gets it. ziiinnng.

Honorable mention given.

Atwar replaces George

Blank numbers with suggestions have been added.

BlindSite
04-08-2008, 07:10 PM
11 Spots to fill

BaLLiN
04-08-2008, 07:34 PM
Marion Motley 36 or 76?

http://thebrotherreport.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/marion-motley-at.jpg
http://www.coachwyatt.com/Trivia10-19.gif

21ST
04-08-2008, 07:39 PM
Page:

9x Pro-Bowler / 11x All-Pro Selection
1971 NFL MVP
2x Defensive Player of the Year / 1970 NFC DPOY
148.5 Career Sacks
3 Career Safeties
218 Straight games Played

Dont forget he blocked 28 kicks that is insane and he had 173 sacks i did a report on him in highschool

lordquas
04-08-2008, 08:00 PM
itd be cool if sean taylor was mentioned for 21. he really was one of the best safeties of all time. he just didnt have enough time to prove it

bigbluedefense
04-08-2008, 09:02 PM
With all due respect to Osi, theres gotta be a better #72 in NFL history.

EDIT: nvm, it was changed.

The Legend
04-09-2008, 02:01 AM
hows Ray Nitschke not atleast Honorable Mention

The Legend
04-09-2008, 02:24 AM
10.– Jeff Feagles Seahawks P
23.– Devin Hester Bears KR
35.– Aeneas Williams Rams DB
45.– Emlen Tunnell Giants DB
57.– Rickey Jackson Saints LB
70.– Jim Marshall Vikings DE
71.- Walter Jones Seahawks OT
72.- Dan Dierdorf Cardinals OT
73.– Larry Allen Cowboys OL
83.– Andre Reed Bills WR
86.– Antonio Freeman Packers WR
91.– Kevin Greene Rams DE
93.– John Randle Vikings DE

why is Larry Allen listed as #71 when he was #73 with the cowboys
thats when he was at his best for 10yrs, walter jones should be #71

holt_bruce81
04-09-2008, 02:30 AM
Torry Holt should be an honorable mention over T.O

Heck, Torry Holt should be over Tim Brown. He will likely pass all of his statistics.

Dam8610
04-09-2008, 02:43 AM
Jim Taylor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Priest Holmes, it's not even a reasonable debate.

The Legend
04-09-2008, 02:58 AM
for god sake Holmes over Taylor thats not even real debate
4 time champion, all 60's team, MVP 1962, 80+ TD, 8,500+ YD

niel89
04-09-2008, 03:17 AM
53)Mick Tingelhoff

Gay Ork Wang
04-09-2008, 09:00 AM
23 ---> Devin!!

DHVF
04-09-2008, 10:24 AM
hows Ray Nitschke not atleast Honorable Mention
That's an idiotic move, as Ray Nitschke was easily the greatest player to ever wear the number 66. Easily.

tjpackers
04-09-2008, 11:37 AM
just some clear ones
Deon-21
Favre-4
Jerry Rice-80
Montana-16
Sanders-20
Smith-22

EvilMonkey
04-09-2008, 12:07 PM
I'll post some again:

Former Packer DE Willie Davis is a better 87 than Ed McCaffery. This isnt even close, a one time pro bowl WR over one of the best DEs of all time??? He was before sacks were recorded but it's estimated he had 100-120 in the 10 years he played. No offense to McCaffery but he is nowhere near this level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Davis_%28defensive_end%29

Still think Don Hutson should get it over Y.A. Tittle as 14, absolutely revolutionized the WR position and still holds some records, Tittle was a great QB but Hutson revolutionized the game so much.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Hutson

EvilMonkey
04-09-2008, 12:14 PM
also, hate to agree with Vikings fans but I also think Alan Page should be on this ahead of Harrison.

Dam8610
04-09-2008, 01:23 PM
for god sake Holmes over Taylor thats not even real debate
4 time champion, all 60's team, MVP 1962, 80+ TD, 8,500+ YD

I'm sure you mean Taylor over Holmes by the stats you posted, and you're absolutely right.

Dam8610
04-09-2008, 01:24 PM
I lobby for the following changes:

3 - Bronko Nagurski
14 - Otto Graham or Dan Fouts (Graham isn't 60)
24 - Jack Christiansen or Willie Wood
31 - Jim Taylor (only man not named Jim Brown to lead NFL in rushing when Jim Brown played)
45 - Emlen Tunnell (nickname: offense on defense)
60 - Chuck Bednarik
61 - Bill George (invented MLB position)
63 - Willie Lanier
66 - Ray Nitchske
70- Art Donovan or Sam Huff
72 - Dan Dierdorf
73 - John Hannah
74 - Merlin Olsen
81 - Dick "Night Train" Lane
82 - Raymond Berry
85 - Jack Youngblood or Nick Buoniconti
89 - Gino Marchetti (voted best DE of first 50 years of NFL)

All of the above are Hall of Famers, for bios, go to profootballhof.com.

I reiterate my lobby for each of these players.

Go_Eagles77
04-09-2008, 02:55 PM
60 should be Chuck Bednarik, one of the best centers of all time and also one of the best LBs of all time. At the least he should be an honorable mention imo.

Edit - Dam8610 got to it first, Otto Graham was both 60 and 14, but he should have 14 and Bednarik should have 60.

CC.SD
04-09-2008, 03:13 PM
10.– Jeff Feagles Seahawks P
23.– Devin Hester Bears KR
35.– Aeneas Williams Rams DB
45.– Emlen Tunnell Giants DB
57.– Rickey Jackson Saints LB
70.– Jim Marshall Vikings DE
71.- Walter Jones Seahawks OT
72.- Dan Dierdorf Cardinals OT
73.– Larry Allen Cowboys OL
83.– Andre Reed Bills WR
86.– Antonio Freeman Packers WR
91.– Kevin Greene Rams DE
93.– John Randle Vikings DE

why is Larry Allen listed as #71 when he was #73 with the cowboys
thats when he was at his best for 10yrs, walter jones should be #71

For Christ's sake not Dierdorf! I'll take Glenn Dorsey right now over him.

XxXdragonXxX
04-09-2008, 09:03 PM
http://content.clearchannel.com/Photos/sports_photos/NFL/Seahawks/cortez_kennedy_AndyLyons.jpg

LonghornsLegend
04-09-2008, 09:09 PM
I reiterate my lobby for each of these players.

Why would Dick Lane get #81 over Tim Brown, Torry Holt, and TO?

XxXdragonXxX
04-09-2008, 09:14 PM
Why would Dick Lane get #81 over Tim Brown, Torry Holt, and TO?


"Lane was enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1974. In 1969 he was named the best cornerback of the first fifty years of pro football. .... In 1999, he was ranked number 19 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players. ..."


That's why.

Crazy_Chris
04-10-2008, 02:48 PM
I agree Night Train Lane is better than those WR's

trkaline
04-10-2008, 03:18 PM
I got Hester at 23...only because of lack of 23 ppl, but he should be the most dominant return man in the history of the league barring injury or unforeseen circumstances...

gdamac
04-10-2008, 09:57 PM
For Christ's sake not Dierdorf! I'll take Glenn Dorsey right now over him.

Rare is the time when I agree with a Bolt fan, but I gotta on this one.

The Legend
04-11-2008, 08:03 AM
so a someone who hasnt played in the league over a Hall or Famer makes sense

im not saying he was the greatest but id take him over Osi & Dorsey

EvilMonkey
04-11-2008, 08:34 AM
so a someone who hasnt played in the league over a Hall or Famer makes sense

im not saying he was the greatest but id take him over Osi & Dorsey

but now he's a crappy announcer.....

You cant be on this list just cause your were a better football player than anyone else that wore the number........

AkiliSmith
04-11-2008, 08:37 AM
69 - Tim Krumrie, Bengals

Gay Ork Wang
04-11-2008, 08:55 AM
I got Hester at 23...only because of lack of 23 ppl, but he should be the most dominant return man in the history of the league barring injury or unforeseen circumstances...
he already is...

WildDude
04-11-2008, 03:35 PM
agreed about hester... and #77 has to go to Red Grange he was absolutely dominating and noone could stop him in his era and willie roaf is pretty good but he didn't have the impact Red Grange did

BlindSite
04-11-2008, 10:44 PM
Updated

10 character limit

Mr. Stiller
04-11-2008, 10:48 PM
I'm still petititioning Joe Green at #75

BamaFalcon59
04-11-2008, 11:04 PM
Not sure how Marshall Faulk takes a back seat to Darrell Green. Green was good, but Faulk was outright dominant.

Gay Ork Wang
04-12-2008, 05:08 PM
Bo Jackson honorable mention for #34?

Hurricane Ditka
04-12-2008, 05:26 PM
Red Grange>>Willie Roaf.

Dam8610
04-13-2008, 08:11 AM
I lobby for the following changes:

3 - Bronko Nagurski
14 - Otto Graham or Dan Fouts (Graham isn't 60)
24 - Jack Christiansen or Willie Wood
31 - Jim Taylor (only man not named Jim Brown to lead NFL in rushing when Jim Brown played)
45 - Emlen Tunnell (nickname: offense on defense)
60 - Chuck Bednarik
61 - Bill George (invented MLB position)
63 - Willie Lanier
66 - Ray Nitchske
70- Art Donovan or Sam Huff
72 - Dan Dierdorf
73 - John Hannah
74 - Merlin Olsen
81 - Dick "Night Train" Lane
82 - Raymond Berry
85 - Jack Youngblood or Nick Buoniconti
89 - Gino Marchetti (voted best DE of first 50 years of NFL)

All of the above are Hall of Famers, for bios, go to profootballhof.com.

Once again, I'm lobbying for all of these players (I think 3 of them are on the list already).

Dam8610
04-13-2008, 08:14 AM
Not sure how Marshall Faulk takes a back seat to Darrell Green. Green was good, but Faulk was outright dominant.

Green was a great CB when he first came out, was dominant for about as long as Faulk, if not longer, and had twice the career span.

BamaFalcon59
04-13-2008, 08:44 AM
Someone should start a 'Best Player to Wear the Color' thread. Best player for each team. If he played for multiple teams he is only eligible for the team he spent the most years or had the most probowls.

BamaFalcon59
04-13-2008, 10:39 AM
Green was a great CB when he first came out, was dominant for about as long as Faulk, if not longer, and had twice the career span.

Faulk, IMO, is a top five RB of all time. I'll take that over a top ten CB.

lordquas
04-13-2008, 11:09 AM
I got Hester at 23...only because of lack of 23 ppl, but he should be the most dominant return man in the history of the league barring injury or unforeseen circumstances...

he had two good seasons. give him a little more time dam

Gay Ork Wang
04-13-2008, 11:17 AM
he had two good seasons. give him a little more time dam
who else do u wanna put there?
He has several records already

XxXdragonXxX
04-13-2008, 12:16 PM
Updated

10 character limit

You failed to put Cortez Kennedy for 96.

trkaline
04-13-2008, 12:36 PM
who else do u wanna put there?
He has several records already

Yeah looks like he already has it locked up in his short time in the league, Its not like any other position. As explosive as he is hes already got a careers worth of TD's for a return man....

Joeyjr09
04-13-2008, 12:54 PM
There is no way on God's earth that Chad Johnson should be on that list. Nick Buoniconti is a HOF and one of the best MLBs to ever play the game. Chad Johnson is a borderline top 5 WR during his era. It's not even close how much more deserving Nick is the Chad. This needs to be switched ASAP.

Also, Stephen Davis at number 48??? Come on man, Moose Johnston. He is the reason Emmitt Smith has the rushing record.

What was Stephen Davis? He played for only 10 years, and was a late bloomer. He had 8,000 career rushing yards and a very average 4 YPC. He was a 3 time Pro Bowl selection. As far as runningbacks goes. Davis had a very average career with just a couple really good years.

Moose Johnston was one of the best pass catching fullbacks ever as well be being what many consider to be the best blocking fullback of all time. He was a 2 time Pro Bowl selection and is considered one of the 5 best at his position all time.

Moose should definately be there ahead of Stephen Davis. and Nick Buoniconti should be there ahead of Chad Johnson.

OSUGiants17
04-13-2008, 03:07 PM
Mike Vick > John Elway jk

Jakey
04-13-2008, 03:10 PM
Lamarr Woodley - 56

No question!

Dam8610
04-13-2008, 03:12 PM
Faulk, IMO, is a top five RB of all time. I'll take that over a top ten CB.

Payton
Sanders
Brown
Smith
Campbell

Which is Faulk better than?

Dam8610
04-13-2008, 03:13 PM
Moose should definately be there ahead of Stephen Davis. and Nick Buoniconti should be there ahead of Chad Johnson.

And Jack Youngblood should be there ahead of Buoniconti, but I'd take Buoniconti over Chad Johnson.

Dam8610
04-13-2008, 03:15 PM
One last thing, and I'll leave this thread for a while...how could anyone rate Bruce Matthews ahead of Merlin Olsen all-time? Merlin Olsen is definitely a Top 3 and possibly the best DT of all-time.

Mr. Stiller
04-13-2008, 04:57 PM
Ernie Stautner should still be on this list.

* 9x Pro Bowl selection (1952, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961)
* 10x All-Pro selection (1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961)
* 2x Super Bowl champion (VI, XII)
* 1957 Pro Bowl MVP
* Pittsburgh Steelers #70 retired
* NFL 1950s All-Decade Team

Rayfield Wright.
* 6x Pro Bowl selection (1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976)
* 6x All-Pro selection (1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976)
* 2x Super Bowl champion (VI, XII)
* NFL 1970s All-Decade Team
* 1972 NFLPA NFC Offensive-lineman of the Year
* Dallas Cowboys Ring of Honor


Sorry I'll take the 10 Time All-Pro Tackle..

BlindSite
04-13-2008, 06:57 PM
Once again, I'm lobbying for all of these players (I think 3 of them are on the list already).

I told you what to do if you want a player's name changed, I don't have all night to go through your list for you to see if they're worthy of unseating someone up there.

tjpackers
04-17-2008, 11:44 AM
maybe smith just because he had the best line out of the bunch and if you look at some of their games he isn't touched untill hes like 4-5 yards past the line of scrimmage

tjpackers
04-17-2008, 11:46 AM
thats a reply to dam8610