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bssman03
04-09-2008, 12:05 AM
Look at the current top DT stats:

#1: Glenn Dorsey (LSU): Height: 6'2" / Weight: 297 / 40 yrd - 5.12 sec / Vertical: 25.5 inches / Bench Reps: 27

#2: Sedrick Ellis (USC): Height: 6'1" / Weight: 309 / 40 yrd - 5.26 sec / Vertical: 26.5 inches / Bench Reps: 34

#3: Kentwan Balmer (North Carolina): Height: 6'5" / Weight: 308 / 40 yrd - 5.29 sec / Vertical: 29 inches / Bench Reps: 33

Now check this out:

Victor Filipe (Oregon): Height: 6'2" / Weight: 319 / 40 yrd - 4.9 sec / Vertical: 30 inches / Bench Reps: 33

This guy is heavier than than the top DTs, but he's faster than them and is just as strong with a great vertical. Keep an eye out for this guy, he's a brick house.

energizerbunny
04-09-2008, 12:32 AM
Look at the current top DT stats:

#1: Glenn Dorsey (LSU): Height: 6'2" / Weight: 297 / 40 yrd - 5.12 sec / Vertical: 25.5 inches / Bench Reps:

#2: Sedrick Ellis (USC): Height: 6'1" / Weight: 309 / 40 yrd - 5.26 sec / Vertical: 26.5 inches / Bench Reps: 34

#3: Kentwan Balmer (North Carolina): Height: 6'5" / Weight: 308 / 40 yrd - 5.29 sec / Vertical: 29 inches / Bench Reps: 33

Now check this out:

Victor Filipe (Oregon): Height: 6'2" / Weight: 319 / 40 yrd - 4.9 sec / Vertical: 30 inches / Bench Reps: 33

This guy is heavier than than the top DTs, but he's faster than them and is just as strong with a great vertical. Keep an eye out for this guy, he's a brick house.


If triangle numbers where the be all Robert McCune would be an pro bowler.


that said Oregon has a pretty good past with DTs

CARDIAC CAT 7
04-09-2008, 12:46 AM
At Oregon Filipe played as a Defensive End at 290 lbs. and asked permission to transfer due to lack of Playing Time. He actually played last year at Western Oregon, and recorded 22 TKL's , 8.5 TFL's, and 7 SK's from the DT position. Also added 30 pounds is he out of shape now or did he really bulk up to play DT, a player that will def get a look as a undrafted FA but I cant see him getting drafted.

bssman03
04-09-2008, 03:15 PM
He bulked up, quite a bit. Just got back from the Oregon Pro days where he put up those impressive numbers.

Pittbc7
04-09-2008, 05:52 PM
Derek Lokey is the most underrated DT this year. In 2006 when he broke his leg Okam was lost. Derek is extremely underrated.

lordquas
04-09-2008, 08:01 PM
keilen dykes could be a stud. hes versatile and tough.

james mcclinton could really be a steal as well.

CARDIAC CAT 7
04-09-2008, 08:18 PM
keilen dykes could be a stud. hes versatile and tough.

james mcclinton could really be a steal as well.

James McClinton is mine too, hes extremly underated and his poor off season has hide him even more.

bored of education
04-09-2008, 08:20 PM
Derek Lokey is the most underrated DT this year. In 2006 when he broke his leg Okam was lost. Derek is extremely underrated.


thank you sir, I like him alot as well. Kid's motor doesnt stop ever. Reminds me of a trevor Laws type who just doesnt stop. Will be a steal in the 7th round area for someone.

Wyndham
04-10-2008, 08:05 AM
Pat Sims.. . .

D-Rod
04-10-2008, 08:10 AM
Pat Sims.. . .

Well, he's under the radar for a top-10 pick, I suppose... but otherwise I think the idea for the thread was contemplating guys who aren't a lock for the 2nd round at the latest.

My sleeper is Maurice Murray. Someone's going to take a risk on that kind of size...

bssman03
04-11-2008, 10:45 AM
Former Highland Star Ready for NFL Draft

Reported by: Dana Greene, ABC4
Last Update: 4/10 6:23 pm


Victor Filipe played with several NFL stars while he was at the University of Oregon, including his former Highland High teammate Haloti Ngata. But Filipe never thought he'd one day be selected in the NFL Draft. Well, that dream may become a reality in a couple weeks.

After transferring from Oregon to Western Oregon after a season-ending elbow injury, Filipe fell off the NFL radar. But after an extremely impressive workout on his pro day, NFL scouts started to pay close attention to this 320-pound defensive tackle.

Filipe could go as high as the 6th round, but at the very least, should sign with some team as an undrafted free agent.

mqtirishfan
04-11-2008, 10:49 AM
You forgot something...

Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, etc. - Very good at playing football.
Victor Filipe - Not nearly as good at playing football.

The Legend
04-11-2008, 11:01 AM
Nick Hayden, Wisconsin
Height: 6-4. Weight: 291.
Combine 40 Time: 5.10.
Benchx225: 34. Vertical 32.

rumfinator
04-11-2008, 12:17 PM
Nick Hayden, Wisconsin
Height: 6-4. Weight: 291.
Combine 40 Time: 5.10.
Benchx225: 34. Vertical 32.

I wonder is Hayden has the ability to swing out to DE in the 34. I always liked him while he played for Wisconsin, but he was awful inconsistent...but our entire defense last year was inconsistent.

Mr. Stiller
04-11-2008, 12:34 PM
I wonder is Hayden has the ability to swing out to DE in the 34. I always liked him while he played for Wisconsin, but he was awful inconsistent...but our entire defense last year was inconsistent.

He could probably play backup WDE in a 2-gap system. I just don't think he's athletic enough to get after the QB in a 1-Gap.

Sigmund Bloom
04-11-2008, 12:52 PM
Three months ago, it would have been Athyba Rubin, but the cat is out of the bag on that one. I like Lionel Dotson as a one gap player, and you have to love Josh Thompson - the kid led Auburn's D in tackles!

toonsterwu
04-11-2008, 01:02 PM
If we're talking about under the radar DT's, one of the favorites is still Kurt Hout from Ferris State. Sure, he's undersized (6'1" 280?), but he's a smart, tough player that understands leverages. Reminds me of a slightly more athletic Kelly Gregg.

etk
04-11-2008, 01:10 PM
If we're talking about under the radar DT's, one of the favorites is still Kurt Hout from Ferris State. Sure, he's undersized (6'1" 280?), but he's a smart, tough player that understands leverages. Reminds me of a slightly more athletic Kelly Gregg.

Kelly Gregg - Josh Thompson?

SenorGato
04-11-2008, 01:22 PM
Kelly Gregg - Josh Thompson?

I think if anyone has the potential to be a similar player to Gregg, it's Thompson.

Wyndham
04-11-2008, 01:39 PM
Well, he's under the radar for a top-10 pick, I suppose... but otherwise I think the idea for the thread was contemplating guys who aren't a lock for the 2nd round at the latest.


I don't think Pat Sims is a lock for round two at the latest. That's why I mentioned him. And even if he goes there, I have him rated much higher. He's never rated or talked about.

kaos3
04-12-2008, 10:21 AM
victor filipe is a great late round gem. he was over 300 pounds and was athletic enough to play defensive end, also i hear scouts love him. draft daddy has also been touting him for awhile. he just had a run of bad luck playing behind top draft picks and getting injured his senior year. Word is Nick Allioti D coordinator was a real asshole. and tried to force him to play with a dislocated elbow. look at dixon and stewart had they stood up to the program like filipe they would've been healthy enough to help their draft stock. When i heard the story about Filipe from an oregon coach i built a greater respect for the kid

sprawwl
04-12-2008, 09:16 PM
You forgot something...

Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, etc. - Very good at playing football.
Victor Filipe - Not nearly as good at playing football.

I lol, therefore I am. However - then you get guys like Kentwan Balmer, who.. aren't nearly as good at playing football (or at least didn't show it until his senior year), but are still supposed to go pretty high.

scottyboy
04-12-2008, 09:17 PM
http://scarletknights.com/football/images/feature-foster.jpg

mqtirishfan
04-12-2008, 09:46 PM
I lol, therefore I am. However - then you get guys like Kentwan Balmer, who.. aren't nearly as good at playing football (or at least didn't show it until his senior year), but are still supposed to go pretty high.

Because he's still much better at playing football than him. We're talking about a guy who didn't play D1 football last year. This reminds me of that giant DT last year that was supposed to be fantastic, but went undrafted and if I remember correctly, failed to make it through a day of camp.

doingthisinsteadofwork
04-12-2008, 10:36 PM
Because he's still much better at playing football than him. We're talking about a guy who didn't play D1 football last year. This reminds me of that giant DT last year that was supposed to be fantastic, but went undrafted and if I remember correctly, failed to make it through a day of camp.
he was also 375 pounds.Not very similar.

mqtirishfan
04-12-2008, 10:51 PM
he was also 375 pounds.Not very similar.

I obviously meant vaguely similar. Similar in the fact that this guy spent last year doing nothing compared to the other prospects, and the only reason anyone is bringing him up is his great numbers.

bssman03
04-15-2008, 12:09 PM
Former Highland Football Player May Go Pro
Last Edited: Monday, 14 Apr 2008, 10:59 PM MDT
Created: Monday, 14 Apr 2008, 10:59 PM MDT

Former Highland High Football Player May Go Pro
Defensive lineman Victor Felipe graduated from Highland High School in 2001. After serving a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Felipe moved on to play for the University of Oregon. Now, Filipe may become a late round NFL draft pick after his impressive performance at Oregon's pro day in February. Fox 13 Sports' Mike Runge has the details.

http://www.myfoxutah.com/myfox/pages/Sports/Detail?contentId=6307460&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=6.2.1

bssman03
04-19-2008, 09:18 AM
Former Duck Impresses Scouts
KEZI 9 ABC News


From Utah to the University of Oregon and then Western Oregon, Victor Filipe has had many stops on his football career. He hopes he has one more destination in the NFL.

http://kezi.com/article.aspx?id=30584

Gchu83
04-19-2008, 11:36 AM
Derek Lokey is the most underrated DT this year. In 2006 when he broke his leg Okam was lost. Derek is extremely underrated.

Ya...Lokey will be a steal for whoever gets him in the late rounds. His numbers at UT pro-day were sick as well...

Ht. 6-2 Wt. 288 lbs.
Forty: 5.18
Bench Press: 38 Reps (highest in the draft class)
Vertical: 33.5
Broad Jump: 9-4

diabsoule
04-19-2008, 11:52 AM
I like Red Bryant and Frank Morten a lot.

Iamcanadian
04-19-2008, 01:18 PM
Pat Sims.. . .

You have to be kidding. This guy doesn't know what hard work is all about. He only put up 20 lifts and only started for 1 year because he relies on his natural ability but won't work hard enough to develop it.

etk
04-19-2008, 02:24 PM
You have to be kidding. This guy doesn't know what hard work is all about. He only put up 20 lifts and only started for 1 year because he relies on his natural ability but won't work hard enough to develop it.

I can't believe someone just posted a paragraph on how Sims isn't a hard worker without mentioning his incredibly soft body.....I agree though. Sims is way overrated. He's the best bet for this year's practice squad bust.

katnip
04-20-2008, 08:33 PM
Pat Sims, Auburn. Saw him vs Clemson.

WildBill34a
04-21-2008, 11:24 AM
Marcus Harrison!

Jakey
04-21-2008, 11:25 AM
Calais Campbell - 6'8" - 375lbs

Perfect 3-4 nose tackle! Can take on quadriple teams with ease!!!

genom
04-21-2008, 12:02 PM
James McClinton is mine too, hes extremly underated and his poor off season has hide him even more.

Do you think David Faeeteete will get drafted?