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blackbelt3d
04-09-2008, 12:32 PM
If this fits better in the Mock Draft board or somewhere else, then by all means. I think it would be interesting to see what other people have as their first round prospects by position.

You can interpret that however you want... Be it guys you think will get drafted in round 1, or guys you think have first round talent.

I dunno if this will take off, but at the very least, it'll make for some good chat fodder.

Matthew Jones
04-09-2008, 01:30 PM
In my signature are my rankings by position, along with round projections. I have 31 prospects ranked as first rounders, but that includes Malcolm Kelly and Reggie Smith. Next time, those will have dropped and I'll probably upgrade Curtis Lofton and maybe Gosder Cherilus to first rounders. Sorry for just posting a link instead of my top-31 here, I'm just kind of busy right now.

blackbelt3d
04-09-2008, 01:42 PM
No, that works, and that's pretty much what I was hoping for.

toonsterwu
04-09-2008, 01:46 PM
Solid first round values for me:

QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall, Jonathan Stewart
WR: None
TE: None
OL: Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah, Chris Williams, Branden Albert
DT: Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis
DE: Chris Long, Vernon Gholston, Derrick Harvey, Phillip Merling
LB: Keith Rivers, Jerod Mayo
CB: Leodis McKelvin, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Aqib Talib, Mike Jenkins
S: None

So, I'm up to 21. Pre-combine/pro days/workouts, I was at 20 (addition being Mayo).

Filling out the last 10 slots, I would go with (random order)

Joe Flacco, Felix Jones, Devin Thomas, Desean Jackson, Gosder Cherilus, Quentin Groves, Kentwan Balmer, Dan Connor, Antoine Cason, Kenny Phillips

That said, I think specific rankings are pointless, and I typically go by tiers, so the 31st is a bit debatable for now as I have 4 other guys in the mix.

The close 4: Limas Sweed, Dustin Keller, Trevor Laws, Brian Brohm

Have some time right now, so figured I'd post my top 2 round grades. Just to be clear, this isn't how I like the guys, but more my perspective on their values. Next 28 names as of now for me:

QB: Chad Henne
RB: Jamaal Charles, Chris Johnson, Matt Forte
FB: None
WR: Mario Manningham, James Hardy, Donnie Avery, Andre Caldwell
TE: John Carlson, Martellus Bennett
OL: Carl Nicks, Sam Baker, Anthony Collins, Duane Brown
DE: Lawrence Jackson, Calais Campbell
DT: Dre Moore, Pat Sims
LB: Xavier Adibi, Curtis Lofton, Cliff Avril
CB: Brandon Flowers, Tracy Porter, Justin King, Patrick Lee, Antwaun Molden
S: Tyrell Johnson, Dajuan Morgan

The two close but no cigar (as that's 63 names, and I usually go by 5's): Ray Rice and Early Doucet.

cdub11
04-09-2008, 02:00 PM
First Round Value for me

QB - Matt Ryan
RB - Darren McFadden, Jonathan Stewart, Rashard Mendenhall, Felix Jones
WR - Limas Sweed, Desean Jackson, Devin Thomas
TE - Dustin Keller
OL - Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah, Chris Williams, Branden Albert, Gosder Cherilous
DT - Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, Kentwan Balmer
DE - Chris Long, Vhernon Gholston, Derrick Harvey, Philip Merling, Calais Campbell or Quentin Groves
LB - Keith Rivers, Jerod Mayo
CB - Leodis McKelvin, DRC, Mike Jenkins, Aqib Talib, Antoine Cason
S - Kenny Phillips

Solomon
04-09-2008, 02:12 PM
My top 31 list:

QB - Matt Ryan
RB - Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall, Jonathan Stewart, Chris Johnson

WR - Devin Thomas, Limas Sweed, Desean Jackson, James Hardy
TE - Dustin Keller

OT - Jake Long, Chris Williams, Ryan Clady, Gosder Cherilus
OG - Brandon Albert


DE - Chris Long, Vernon Gholston, Derrick Harvey, Philip Merling
DT - Sedrick Ellis, Glenn Dorsey, Trevor Laws

LB - Keith Rivers, Quentin Groves, Dan Connor, Jerod Mayo

CB - Dominique Rogers-Cromartie, Leodis McKelvin, Mike Jenkins, Aqib Talib
S - Kenny Phillips

As you can see there are some big name prospects I'm not too high on like Jeff Otah, Kentwan Balmer. And other guys who I'm probably higher on than most people like Trevor Laws, Chris Johnson and James Hardy. This doesn't neccesarily reflect where I think guys will be drafted, I could see both Connor and Mayo dropping out of the first.

lordquas
04-09-2008, 03:01 PM
First Round Value for me

QB - Matt Ryan
RB - Darren McFadden, Jonathan Stewart, Rashard Mendenhall, Felix Jones
WR - Limas Sweed, Desean Jackson, Devin Thomas
TE - Dustin Keller
OL - Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah, Chris Williams, Branden Albert, Gosder Cherilous
DT - Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, Kentwan Balmer
DE - Chris Long, Vhernon Gholston, Derrick Harvey, Philip Merling, Calais Campbell or Quentin Groves
LB - Keith Rivers, Jerod Mayo
CB - Leodis McKelvin, DRC, Mike Jenkins, Aqib Talib, Antoine Cason
S - Kenny Phillips

felix jones isnt a 1st rounder. or at least he shouldnt be
same exact thing with calais campbell

dont make me scratch my head

Shane P. Hallam
04-09-2008, 03:15 PM
This year First Round value:

QB - Matt Ryan, Brian Brohm

RB - Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall, Jonathan Stewart, Felix Jones

WR - Limas Sweed, Devin Thomas

TE - Dustin Keller

OT - Jake Long, Chris Williams, Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah, Gosder Cherilus

OG - Brandon Albert

C -

DE - Vernon Gholston, Chris Long, Derrick Harvey, Phillip Merling, Lawrence Jackson

DT - Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis,

OLB - Keith Rivers

ILB - Dan Connor

CB - Leodis McKelvin, Mike Jenkins, DRC, Aqib Talib, Antoine Cason

S - Kenny Phillips


That's only 30 people. I guess I could probably toss in Quentin Groves too..

Shane P. Hallam
04-09-2008, 03:16 PM
felix jones isnt a 1st rounder. or at least he shouldnt be
same exact thing with calais campbell

dont make me scratch my head

Some people (and probably teams,) now have Jones over Stewart. So take that for what it is worth.

619
04-09-2008, 03:18 PM
First Round Value

QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall, Jonathan Stewart, Felix Jones, Chris Johnson
WR: Desean Jackson, Limas Sweed, Devin Thomas
TE: Dustin Keller
OL: Jake Long, Chris Williams, Branden Albert, Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah, Gosder Cherilus
DE: Chris Long, Vernon Gholston, Derrick Harvey, Quentin Groves, Phillip Merling
DT: Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, Kentwan Balmer
LB: Keith Rivers, Jerod Mayo
CB: Dominique Rodgers Cromartie, Leodis McKelvin, Mike Jenkins, Antoine Cason
S: Kenny Phillips

AkiliSmith
04-09-2008, 03:27 PM
QB: Matt Ryan, Brian Brohm
RB: McFadden, Mendenhall, Stewart, Jones
WR: Thomas, Jackson, Sweed
TE: Keller
OT: Long, Clady, Williams, Otah, Cherilus
OG: Albert

DE: Long, Gholston, Harvey, Merling, Groves
DT: Dorsey, Ellis, Balmer
OLB: Rivers, Mayo
ILB: Connor
CB: McKelvin, Jenkins, Rodgers-Cromartie, Talib
S: Phillips

32 exactly and I didn't even do it on purpose

draftguru151
04-09-2008, 03:59 PM
QB- Matt Ryan
RB- Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall, Jonathan Stewart
WR- Limas Sweed, Desean Jackson, Devin Thomas
OT- Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Chris Williams, Jeff Otah, Gosder Cherilus
OG- Brandon Albert
DE- Chris Long, Vernon Gholston, Quentin Groves, Phillip Merling, Derrick Harvey
DT- Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, Kentwan Balmer
LB- Keith Rivers
CB- Mike Jenkins, Leodis McKelvin, DRC, Aqib Talib
S- Kenny Phillips

That's 27, Felix, Mayo, King and Keller are fringe guys that would put it to 31.

Addict
04-09-2008, 04:03 PM
QB- Matt Ryan
RB- Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall, Jonathan Stewart
WR- Limas Sweed, Desean Jackson, Devin Thomas
OT- Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Chris Williams, Jeff Otah, Gosder Cherilus
OG- Brandon Albert
DE- Chris Long, Vernon Gholston, Quentin Groves, Phillip Merling, Derrick Harvey
DT- Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, Kentwan Balmer
LB- Keith Rivers
CB- Mike Jenkins, Leodis McKelvin, DRC, Aqib Talib
S- Kenny Phillips

That's 27, Felix, Mayo, King and Keller are fringe guys that would put it to 31.

this list makes a lot of sense to me. I don't think Keller is worth a first at this point, maybe Connor is...

P-L
04-09-2008, 04:27 PM
QB: Matt Ryan
RB: Darren McFadden | Rashard Mendenhall | Jonathan Stewart
WR: Limas Sweed
OT: Jake Long | Ryan Clady | Chris Williams | Jeff Otah | Gosder Cherilus
OG: Branden Albert

DE: Chris Long | Derrick Harvey | Vernon Gholston | Quentin Groves | Phillip Merling
DT: Glenn Dorsey | Sedrick Ellis | Trevor Laws
LB: Keith Rivers | Jerod Mayo
CB: Leodis McKelvin | Mike Jenkins | Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

Alright, those 24 are the guys I'd feel very comfortable taking in the 1st Round. If you want my top 31, here are my next seven guys (in no order):

QB: Joe Flacco
WR: DeSean Jackson | James Hardy
TE: Martellus Bennett
DT: Kentwan Balmer
LB: Curtis Lofton
S: Kenny Phillips

draftguru151
04-09-2008, 04:40 PM
this list makes a lot of sense to me. I don't think Keller is worth a first at this point, maybe Connor is...

I kinda read the thread wrong, that's more of what I see happening than personal grades. I think Keller could sneak into the late 1st. I'd take out Gosder, Felix, King and Keller, add in Flacco, Lofton, Bennett and Campbell.

blackbelt3d
04-09-2008, 06:34 PM
OK, I'll add mine to the fun... Subject to change, although I don't see it moving around too much.

QB: Matt Ryan, Brian Brohm
RB: Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall, Jonathan Stewart, Felix Jones, Jamaal Charles
WR: Devin Thomas, DeSean Jackson, James Hardy
OT: Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah, Chris Williams, Gosder Cherilus
OG: Branden Albert
DE: Chris Long, Vernon Gholston, Derrick Harvey, Calais Campbell, Quentin Groves
DT: Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, Kentwan Balmer
OLB: Keith Rivers
ILB: Dan Connor
CB: Leodis McKelvin, Mike Jenkins, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Aqib Talib, Charles Godfrey
S: Kenny Phillips

Names in italics indicate borderline first rounders (They could be considered late 1st/early 2nd). As far as my list goes, this isn't so much who I think will get picked in the first round (As there are some names I didn't put on here who are almost certain to be picked in round 1, and vice-versa) as it is who I think has first round value.

Flame away, folks!

MaxV
04-09-2008, 07:05 PM
QB: Matt Ryan, Brian Brohm
RB: Darren McFadden, Rashard Mendenhall, Jonathan Stewart, Felix Jones
WR: Devin Thomas, DeSean Jackson, Limas Sweed, James Hardy
TE:
OT: Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Jeff Otah, Chris Williams, Gosder Cherilus
OG: Branden Albert
DE: Chris Long, Vernon Gholston, Derrick Harvey, Phillip Merling
DT: Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis, Kentwan Balmer
OLB: Keith Rivers
ILB: Dan Connor, Jerod Mayo
CB: Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, Leodis McKelvin, Mike Jenkins, Aqib Talib
S: Kenny Phillips