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darnik44two
02-26-2007, 09:18 PM
FIRST ROUND

1 Oakland raiders JaMarcus Russell QB Louisiana State 6-6 243 Sr.

2 Detroit Lions Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin 6-8 306 Sr.

3 Cleveland Browns Adrian Peterson HB Oklahoma 6-2 215 Jr.

4 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Calvin Johnson WR Georgia Tech 6-4 235 Jr.

5 Arizona Cardinals Levi Brown OT Penn State 6-5 324 Sr.

6 Washington Redskins Alan Branch DT/DE Michigan 6-6 311 Jr.

7 Minnesota Vikings Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame 6-4 231 Sr.

8 Houston Texans LaRon Landry FS Louisiana State 6-2 204 Sr.

9 Miami Dolphins Gaines Adams DE/OLB Clemson 6-5 260 Sr.

10 Atlanta Falcons Amobi Okoye DT Louisville 6-1 312 Sr.

11 San Francisco 49ers Adam Carriker DE Nebraska 6-6 280 Sr.

12 Buffalo Bills Jamaal Anderson DE Arkansas 6-6 282 Jr.

13 St. Louis Rams Ted Ginn Jr. WR/KR Ohio State 6-0 170 Jr.

14 Carolina Panthers Patrick Willis ILB Mississippi 6-2 230 Sr.

15 Pittsburgh Steelers Darrelle Revis CB Pittsburgh 6-0 190 Jr.

16 Green Bay Packers Marshawn Lynch HB California 5-11 217 Jr.

17 Jacksonville Jaguars Ryan Kalil C Southern California 6-3 285 Sr.

18 Cincinnatti Bengals Jon Beason OLB Miami 6-0 236 Sr.

19 Tennessee Titans Robert Meachem WR Tennessee 6-3 210 Jr.

20 New York Giants Leon Hall CB Michigan 5-11 191 Sr.

21 Denver Broncos Jarvis Moss DE/OLB Florida 6-6 252 So.

22 Dallas Cowboys Reggie Nelson FS Florida 6-1 198 Jr.

23 Kansas City Chiefs Dwayne Bowe WR Louisiana State 6-3 217 Sr.

24 New England Patriots (from SEA) Michael Griffin FS Texas 6-0 205 Sr.

25 New York Jets Greg Olsen TE Miami 6-5 252 Jr.

26 Philadelphia Eagles Paul Posluszny ILB/OLB Penn State 6-2 229 Sr.

27 New Orleans Saints Aaron Ross CB Texas 6-1 192 Sr.

28 New England Patriots David Harris ILB Michigan 6-2 242 Sr.

29 Baltimore Ravens Michael Bush HB Louisville 6-3 250 Sr.

30 San Diego Chargers Dwayne Jarrett WR Southern California 6-5 210 Jr.

31 Chicago Bears Ben Grubbs OG Auburn 6-3 301 Sr.

32 Indianapolis Colts Lawrence Timmons OLB Florida State 6-3 230 Jr.

mtmock
02-26-2007, 09:22 PM
me likey :)

hugegmenfan
02-26-2007, 09:38 PM
i understand why u had Leon Hall to the giants but the fact is LB is by far our biggest need now with the recent releases of arrington AND emmons- timmons is the pick but thanx for the breath of fresh air

princefielder28
02-26-2007, 09:41 PM
no different for GB

darnik44two
02-26-2007, 09:44 PM
i understand why u had Leon Hall to the giants but the fact is LB is by far our biggest need now with the recent releases of arrington AND emmons- timmons is the pick but thanx for the breath of fresh air

Timmons is a reach and is overated by most. NFL personell will not give him a top 20 grade. Teams don't always draft for need. Any NFL GM will tell you going into a draft targeting a certain position in a certain round is a huge mistake. CB is also a need for the Giants, and Hall really is a steal there.

RaiderNation
02-26-2007, 09:47 PM
good raider pick at the moment

SDSupaChargers
02-26-2007, 09:55 PM
I really doubt that Harris makes it into the first round. Like the chargers pick though.

darnik44two
02-26-2007, 10:02 PM
I really doubt that Harris makes it into the first round. Like the chargers pick though.

He had a great combine, and he's Mike Mayock's #4 LB. That's good enough for me.

JT Jag
02-26-2007, 10:02 PM
Sometimes, different is good.

Not so much for the Jaguars.

The Jags have a great starter at center with Meester, and Dennis Norman--- a center on paper--- is a smart, super-talented O-line prospect who can play all 5 positions.

We're probably not going to draft center at all. It's not even on the radar.

darnik44two
02-26-2007, 10:08 PM
Sometimes, different is good.

Not so much for the Jaguars.

The Jags have a great starter at center with Meester, and Dennis Norman--- a center on paper--- is a smart, super-talented O-line prospect who can play all 5 positions.

We're probably not going to draft center at all. It's not even on the radar.


I didn't realize Meester was that good of a center. I was just basing that off of a Steelers/Jags game preview that said the match up of Casey Hampton and Chris Meester was a huge advantage in the Steelers favor. Kalil climbed into the first round, I just gotta figure out to who.

Slasher28
02-26-2007, 10:13 PM
Harris is still not a first rounder, he improved himself to a second round pick, not a first

Im_a_Romosexual
02-26-2007, 10:26 PM
looks good

KJ4140
02-26-2007, 10:42 PM
No DE for the Bills, we just resigned our starter Chris Kelsay. Yes, Anderson would be an improvement, but we have four DE's now and a great DE is a luxury, not a need. I would prefer either Willis or Lynch, with Timmons, Beason, or a top possession WR also possible.

PalmerToCJ
02-26-2007, 10:50 PM
I'm all for Nelson in that situation and I don't think Beason helped his stock any with the combine.

sweetness34
02-26-2007, 10:59 PM
Joe Staley.

Vikes99ej
02-26-2007, 11:02 PM
Give us Adams first.

darnik44two
02-26-2007, 11:10 PM
Harris is still not a first rounder, he improved himself to a second round pick, not a first


So that's a fact?

darnik44two
02-26-2007, 11:12 PM
No DE for the Bills, we just resigned our starter Chris Kelsay. Yes, Anderson would be an improvement, but we have four DE's now and a great DE is a luxury, not a need. I would prefer either Willis or Lynch, with Timmons, Beason, or a top possession WR also possible.

I did forget all about the McGehee thing. I do know Marv Leavy went to 4 SB's with a pair of dominating DE's though.

yodabear
02-26-2007, 11:18 PM
No Ginn for the Rams, especially with Willis still on the board.

darnik44two
02-26-2007, 11:22 PM
I'm all for Nelson in that situation and I don't think Beason helped his stock any with the combine.


Man everyone keeps saying that about Beason. He didn't do terrible and actually had a really good 40 time. The combine is only a small piece of the puzzle. Ultimately game film separates the good players from the bad. If you have two player at the same position and you have them equal in all your game tape evaluations the combine then comes into play. It also is used to answer questions one might have about a player. Dick Vermeil said the main focus of teams at the combine are the medical evaluations and the interviews. Players can raise their stock at the combine much more than players can hurt it. Some players show they are much better athletes than expected and they help their stock. Positions like WR and CB are the two that 40 times really come into play. Beason ran a 4.64 40. He's a 237 pound OLB, that's damn good. His only knock was his 19 reps on the bench. Does that mean he will never get any stronger? Strength is alot easier to add than speed is.

PalmerToCJ
02-26-2007, 11:39 PM
My point being that he really hasn't had great value at 18 the whole time and he didn't improve that standing with his combine.

I'm not saying it's a horrible pick though... Just that it's hard to put that pick up there with Nelson on the board.

KCJ58
02-26-2007, 11:41 PM
hate the rams pick

darnik44two
02-26-2007, 11:47 PM
My point being that he really hasn't had great value at 18 the whole time and he didn't improve that standing with his combine.

I'm not saying it's a horrible pick though... Just that it's hard to put that pick up there with Nelson on the board.

He didn't have great value here, keep that in mind. I think with actual NFL personel he's had great value all along. He neither helped nor hurt his stock IMO. Now I don't know what went on behind closed doors, the medical part and interview part.

Chucky
02-26-2007, 11:53 PM
good bucs pick

darnik44two
02-26-2007, 11:57 PM
good bucs pick

lol, can't go wrong there huh.

zjstratton
02-27-2007, 10:21 AM
Levi Brown is not going that high in the draft. He will more likely be mid to late first round pick. Kalil from USC will not go in the first round. He will be drafted in the second round. If Meachem is available at 16 to the Packers, the Packers will more likely take him.

dhoe20
02-27-2007, 10:57 AM
Timmons is a reach and is overated by most. NFL personell will not give him a top 20 grade. Teams don't always draft for need. Any NFL GM will tell you going into a draft targeting a certain position in a certain round is a huge mistake. CB is also a need for the Giants, and Hall really is a steal there.

lol, he just said that Timmons is a reach at #20.

njx9
02-27-2007, 12:05 PM
i don't like a tweener to denver. i just don't see how he has a position here.

eaglesalltheway
02-27-2007, 06:45 PM
Give us a DE, not a OLB, please.

darnik44two
02-27-2007, 07:24 PM
Levi Brown is not going that high in the draft. He will more likely be mid to late first round pick. Kalil from USC will not go in the first round. He will be drafted in the second round. If Meachem is available at 16 to the Packers, the Packers will more likely take him.

You seem lost dude. Your Brown and Kalil statements are wrong.

darnik44two
02-27-2007, 07:26 PM
i don't like a tweener to denver. i just don't see how he has a position here.

You're right that was a bad pick. Pre-combine it seemed Moss could play DE, but he lacks the upper body strength. I got so used to putting him in there I did it without thinking.

darnik44two
02-27-2007, 07:28 PM
lol, he just said that Timmons is a reach at #20.

For an inexperienced guy who is going to have to be taught how to play, yeah he is a bit of a reach IMO.

Severe Punishment
02-28-2007, 02:12 PM
Love the Quinn pick, but feel Adams is our #1 rated guy. We had no one at DE last year to provide pressure. Erasmus James hasn't played in 2 years now and Ray Edwards is our best DE going into the 07 season.
Kenechi Udeze needs to get traded (at this point I think I'd take a broken kicking tee) or released, he's completely useless to us in a Tampa 2.
We need pressure off the ends so we can stop blitzing every play and opening up passing lanes underneath and being the joke of the league against the pass.

If Gaines Adams and ONLY Gaines Adams is available at DE in round 1 we need to take him....otherwise I like Quinn then Landry then Willis.

Overall this draft is still pretty good.

Canadian_kid16
02-28-2007, 02:25 PM
no different for GB

or TB, but it ain't bad

Caddy
02-28-2007, 03:06 PM
Great Buc draft

njx9
02-28-2007, 03:07 PM
You're right that was a bad pick. Pre-combine it seemed Moss could play DE, but he lacks the upper body strength. I got so used to putting him in there I did it without thinking.

i liked him a for a bit, but after reading/hearing more about him, he doesnt' seem like he could be mroe than a situational rusher here, which we've already got. *shrug* right position at least.

dabears10
02-28-2007, 03:13 PM
I think if the Bears had the choice to pick timmons there, they would do it. Even though we franchised Briggs, I am not sure we are going to be able sign him long term and timmons could compete with hillenmeyer for some playing time.

princefielder28
02-28-2007, 03:57 PM
Different yet the same for Green Bay

EHobbs27
02-28-2007, 04:36 PM
I disagree with everyone who said Harris isn't a first. I would take him in round 1 anyday. He is a great 3-4 ILb and showed that he has good enough speed to cover as well. Good Pats mock.

jackalope
02-28-2007, 04:37 PM
Good Packer's pick. what makes this "very different"?