Favorite Underground rap groups

[cunningham06]

Keep this strictly underground groups, no Kanye or Lil Wayne please.

Some of my favorites

-People under the stairs
-Army of the pharaohs
-Z-Ro

Anybody else have any favorites?

[Charm City Byrdgang]

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Waits for snuff...

[snuff]

Paul Walll

[sweetness34]

Paul Walll

I love snuff.

[snuff]

Nah...D4L wipes the floor with Paul Wall.Why must you take everything I say and completely kill it...

[sweetness34]

Why must you take everything I say and completely kill it...

I'm sorry snuff. I won't do it anymore.

[wingboy2999]

Aesop Rock
Sage Francis
C-Rayz
Cage




John Brown....... hallelujah hollaback.

[sik wit it]

i gotta go with some houston guys. Z-Ro and Trae(Assholes by Nature), K-Rino, and Devin the Dude. Seriously, check some of these guys out. They rap about real stuff(of course all underground rappers do), but this is what hip hop is.

[snuff]

Aesop Rock
Atmosphere
Apathy
AZ(he count?)
Binary Star
Cage
Canibus(count?)
Cunninlynguists(favorite)
Elzhi
Deltron 3030
Murs
Immortal Technique(count?)
RJD2
K-OS
Mr. Lif
Pack FM
Rich Boy
Sage Francis
The Crest
Foreign Exchange(better than LB CCB)
The Procussions
Tonedeff
Wordsworth
Zion-I
Strange Fruit Project
Pharaohe Monch(count?)
Grouch

That pretty much covers everyone.

[wingboy2999]

Rich Boy and Monch doesn't count... atleast not to me. Rich Boy definetely not. RJD2 is getting bigger and he is a producer. Immortal is getting bigger too. K-Os is meh.... listened to him.

[snuff]

I just threw rich boy in to see if anyone was reading.

RJD2 puts out his own music so I count him.

[sik wit it]

Aesop Rock
Atmosphere
Apathy
AZ(he count?)
Binary Star
Cage
Canibus(count?)
Cunninlynguists(favorite)
Elzhi
Deltron 3030
Murs
Immortal Technique(count?)
RJD2
K-OS
Mr. Lif
Pack FM
Rich Boy
Sage Francis
The Crest
Foreign Exchange(better than LB CCB)
The Procussions
Tonedeff
Wordsworth
Zion-I
Strange Fruit Project
Pharaohe Monch(count?)
Grouch

That pretty much covers everyone.
binary and wordsworth are solid

[wingboy2999]

I just threw rich boy in to see if anyone was reading.

RJD2 puts out his own music so I count him.

Hahaha, nice. Yeah, I'm pretty up on my hip hop, atleast the underground stuff. Def Jux... best out there.

[wingboy2999]

Oh yeah.... Busdriver is kick ass too. He seems to be getting more popular.

[snuff]

Babygrande Records is the best out there actually. :D

[cunningham06]

Aesop Rock
Sage Francis
C-Rayz
Cage




John Brown....... hallelujah hollaback.

Aesop Rock is really good I like their collaborations with RJD2.

[cunningham06]

Aesop Rock
Atmosphere
Apathy
AZ(he count?)
Binary Star
Cage
Canibus(count?)
Cunninlynguists(favorite)
Elzhi
Deltron 3030
Murs
Immortal Technique(count?)
RJD2
K-OS
Mr. Lif
Pack FM
Rich Boy
Sage Francis
The Crest
Foreign Exchange(better than LB CCB)
The Procussions
Tonedeff
Wordsworth
Zion-I
Strange Fruit Project
Pharaohe Monch(count?)
Grouch

That pretty much covers everyone.

No Dr. Octagon?

[snuff]

I have a few of his songs never really go into it. My friend told me I have to get Dr. Octagonecologyst but never really felt motivated to get it. Theres a lot more people I know I would like just to lazy to get.

Like
Killah Priest
Jedi Mind Tricks
Canibal Ox
Dr. Octagon
Dilated People
Gangstarr
Brother Ali

[cunningham06]

I have a few of his songs never really go into it. My friend told me I have to get Dr. Octagonecologyst but never really felt motivated to get it. Theres a lot more people I know I would like just to lazy to get.

Like
Killah Priest
Jedi Mind Tricks
Canibal Ox
Dr. Octagon
Dilated People
Gangstarr
Brother Ali

I'm not a huge octagon fan, only every once in a while am I in the mood for something as weird as his stuff (half shark alligator half man= awesome). I mainly respect how influential he was back before his "return."

[cunningham06]

I have a few of his songs never really go into it. My friend told me I have to get Dr. Octagonecologyst but never really felt motivated to get it. Theres a lot more people I know I would like just to lazy to get.

Like
Killah Priest
Jedi Mind Tricks
Canibal Ox
Dr. Octagon
Dilated People
Gangstarr
Brother Ali

Seriously though, give people under the stairs a listen. I love their beats.

[snuff]

Most of the time I am not into the production of his music and stick to Cunninlynguists.

[Ward]

Atmosphere and Jedi Mind Tricks are the two biggest ones for me.

[cunningham06]

i gotta go with some houston guys. Z-Ro and Trae(######## by Nature), K-Rino, and Devin the Dude. Seriously, check some of these guys out. They rap about real stuff(of course all underground rappers do), but this is what hip hop is.

Trae is alright, he's got a few good songs on his own but he more just piggybacks off of Z-Ro since he's his cousin.

[wingboy2999]

Snuff... you got a last.fm?

[KCJ58]

Dilated Peoples - Worst Comes To Worst
Gang Starr - Work
Living Ledgens - Fill My Drink Up
2 Sense - Makin' Money
LOX - Tommy's Theme

[snuff]

Snuff... you got a last.fm?
Yeah I made one after you created the thread.

http://www.last.fm/user/arsenal144

[slightlyaraiderfan]

The Shapeshifters

[bigmac076]

Pittsburgh rap duo Grand Buffet
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/jblaze66/GrandBuffet.jpg

and Providence rap artist Sage Francis
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e204/jblaze66/SageFrancis.jpg

[UKfan]

Atmosphere and Jedi Mind Tricks are the two biggest ones for me.

Apathy and Celph Titled as well as ^^

[roidrunner]

villebillies

[Charm City Byrdgang]

Dilated Peoples - Worst Comes To Worst
Gang Starr - Work
Living Ledgens - Fill My Drink Up
2 Sense - Makin' Money
LOX - Tommy's Theme

Tommys Theme is by Made Men not hte lox...the lox are featured on it. Its not underground hip hop either way though.

[yo123]

some guys that i like may not count but here they are

Immortal Technique
Canibus
Jedi Mind Tricks
Zion I


Those are the main ones... i have a lot more that a like a couple songs from.

[ricky bobby]

Pink Floyd
Brittney Spears
Elton John
Ramstein
Eli Manning, Brett Farve and crew
George Dubblya and The Chenney Possy

They all rap secretly, you just don't know it. They's be representing dogggg! Chill, they so street.

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[L6]

Aesop Rock
Atmosphere
Apathy
AZ(he count?)
Binary Star
Cage
Canibus(count?)
Cunninlynguists(favorite)
Elzhi
Deltron 3030
Murs
Immortal Technique(count?)
RJD2
K-OS
Mr. Lif
Pack FM
Rich Boy
Sage Francis
The Crest
Foreign Exchange(better than LB CCB)
The Procussions
Tonedeff
Wordsworth
Zion-I
Strange Fruit Project
Pharaohe Monch(count?)
Grouch

That pretty much covers everyone.
Nice list, heres a few more, some like AZ are sorta somewhere in between underground and mainstream.

Cormega
Tragedy Khadafi
Masta Ace
Ill Bill

IMO Cormega is the best, though im not sure if he counts as underground, his first 2 cds, The Realness and The True Meaning are both in my rotation a lot, you can listen to both all the way through, i consider them both classics. The way he paints pictures with his words is just great. I think hes top 10 all time.

Check this video of his: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEC7FCyMIMo

Couple mega songs to listen to if you havent heard him:
Verbal Graffiti
Live Ya Life
They Forced My Hand
Fallen Soldiers
The Saga
Get out my way

[snuff]

I have some Cormega and Masta Aces - Long Hot Summer although I stopped listening to it after like 20 mins since it was pretty boring.

Cormega - American Beauty is an amazing song.

[critesy]

the only ones i've listened to so far are trae and binary star...and well immortal technique but as i've been learning he is not so underground...im trying to get more into underground as i've liked those...whose REEEAALL good that i should download some stuff from ?

[snuff]

Cunninlynguists. Apathy is similar to Immortal Technique. Atmosphere is popular. One Be Lo is the good part of Binary Star.

[bantx]

Bun-b king

[Dave]

just a few:

Zion I
Dead Prez
Jedi Mind Tricks
Atmosphere
DSR

[JF4]

Strong Arm Steady
Planet Asia

[bored of education]

Little Brother
Non Phixion
Strange Fruit Project
anything from Duckdown
Binary Star

I could go on for days

RA the RUGGED MAN!!!!!

[cunningham06]

I'm listening to some alchemist right now he also seems borderline underground, he got pretty famous once he started producing. Any alchemist fans?

[bearsfan_51]

People should know who Cannibus and Monch are by now, but I agree that both rock my world.

[yourfavestoner]

Aesop Rock
Atmosphere
Apathy
AZ(he count?)
Binary Star
Cage
Canibus(count?)
Cunninlynguists(favorite)
Elzhi
Deltron 3030
Murs
Immortal Technique(count?)
RJD2
K-OS
Mr. Lif
Pack FM
Rich Boy
Sage Francis
The Crest
Foreign Exchange(better than LB CCB)
The Procussions
Tonedeff
Wordsworth
Zion-I
Strange Fruit Project
Pharaohe Monch(count?)
Grouch

That pretty much covers everyone.

Do you like Felt (Slug and Murs)?

PS Zion-I is the ****.

[Paranoidmoonduck]

Blackalicious - Soulfull and deep, Gift of Gab is one of the best lyricists ever and Chief Xcel is money as a producer. Must hear song: World of Vibrations

Heiroglyphics/Souls of Mischief - Solid production matched with the awesomeness that is Del and Pep Love. Must hear song: No Nuts

People Under the Stairs - Fantastic production and good rhyming with a suprisingly high number of very good tracks. Must hear song: The Breakdown

Jedi Mind Tricks - Absolutely spectacular production, good enough to overwrite the fact that Vinnie Paz is a blatant homophobe and not a great rapper. Must hear song: I against I

Zion I - Great lyrics and rythym over very interesting and unique production. Mind over Matter is a money album. Must hear song: One

Living Legends - Before "going dumb" blew up in the Bay Area, these guys were as hot as it got. Very good production and very distinct rapping style. Must hear song: Flawless

That about covers the groups I've really taken to in underground hip-hop.

[yourfavestoner]

the only ones i've listened to so far are trae and binary star...and well immortal technique but as i've been learning he is not so underground...im trying to get more into underground as i've liked those...whose REEEAALL good that i should download some stuff from ?

Download Jungle by Andre Nickatina and Equipto.

[snuff]

Uhh I hate Andre Nickatina.

Get Flow by Zion-I instead as it is their best song.

[UKfan]

Blackalicious - Soulfull and deep, Gift of Gab is one of the best lyricists ever and Chief Xcel is money as a producer. Must hear song: World of Vibrations


Man Blackalicious are amazing but World of Vibrations is a weak song on that album IMO, supreme people is better and the craft as well. I love listening to My Pen and Pad the most though, although it's not long the flow in incredible.

[BuckNaked]

Murs
Army of Pharoahs
The Coup
Immortal Technique

[snuff]

Here are some songs you can just listen to and not download:
Cunninlynguists - Lynguistics (http://bridget11.imeem.com/music/HZVWVIKz/lynguistics/)
One Be Lo - enecs eht no kcab (http://profile.imeem.com/kXv56K/music/xx6MBIQ5/enecs_eht_no_kcab/)
Atmosphere - Trying to Find a Balance (http://teamdime.imeem.com/music/UnZFcOiI/trying_to_find_a_balance/)
Mr. Lif - Because They Made it That Way (http://makabrezz.imeem.com/music/1bIeMWtG/because_they_made_it_that_way/)
Cage- Hell's Winter (http://profile.imeem.com/Ij9SJ8/music/TVMZvpKQ/hells_winter_prod_by_elp_wi/)

[Man_Of_Steel]

Lou Lou Shananz

[snuff]

I just ran across Nujabes and Fat Jon. Both are a little Hiphop/Jazz mix and are pretty amazing from what I have been listening to.

[skinzzfan25]

Wale, local DC rapper, some hot ****.

[jets future]

every body knows that 50 is the king of underground rap. listen ot power of the dollar and den you will see what i m talking about,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0raq4w79TsE&mode=related&search=
but i like mos def, talib kweli and pharoah monch

[etk]

every body knows that 50 is the king of underground rap. listen ot power of the dollar and den you will see what i m talking about,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0raq4w79TsE&mode=related&search=
but i like mos def, talib kweli and pharoah monch

Everybody being you and your 8 year old brother, right?

[jets future]

Everybody being you and your 8 year old brother, right?
well 50 is the king of the underground, in 1999 he was beasting every one. he was just a lyrisist in power of the dollar

[snuff]

Jets Future... Leave this thread. Please.

[jets future]

hahaha
well snuff you just dont like 50 but you know that power of the dollar was a great album.he is said to be the underground king that never was crowned

[snuff]

The only person that would ever say that is himself and g-unit.

[Dave]

Talib Kweli is the shiz, but so is Esoteric (aka Death March ft Talib Kweli and Esoteric by Atmosphere). Mad props to the Wu-Tang clan, GZA Genious is my man.

[smittyjs]

Three 6 Mafia first few Album, before they went main stream.
Mystic Stylez and Chapter 1: The End

And also Project pats first Album Ghetty green(One of the best records in the last 10 years IMO)

Haystak is decent

[cunningham06]

I had to listen to Tech N9ne for 30 m inutes today. It was the worst 30 m inutes of my life.

[cunningham06]

every body knows that 50 is the king of underground rap. listen ot power of the dollar and den you will see what i m talking about,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0raq4w79TsE&mode=related&search=
but i like mos def, talib kweli and pharoah monch

Mos def and talib kweli are not underground. I'll give you monch but he's borderline.

[bantx]

hahaha
well snuff you just dont like 50 but you know that power of the dollar was a great album.he is said to be the underground king that never was crowned

bun-b is the king of the underground!!!

[yourfavestoner]

Uhh I hate Andre Nickatina.

Get Flow by Zion-I instead as it is their best song.

How can you not be an Andre fan?

Snuff, do you have the new Zion I's new album with Grouch?

[BuckNaked]

Mos def and talib kweli are not underground. I'll give you monch but he's borderline.

Both are great, but how can you think Mos Def is remotely underground.

[TCU]

Does the Streets count, because thats really dank music even though its british.

[snuff]

bun-b is the king of the underground!!!
Anyone notice everyone from the Dallas area appears to be on crack on this site?

[cunningham06]

Anyone notice everyone from the Dallas area appears to be on crack on this site?

There's something in the water there that he and killersanta are both drinking.

[etk]

Anyone notice everyone from the Dallas area appears to be on crack on this site?

Bun B is a sick rapper but he's definitely not underground anymore.

Like snuff said, please leave this thread jetsfuture. It's people like you who saturate the market by buying G-Unit CDs and footwear.

G-G-G-G-G-G-G-UNOT

[critesy]

Bun B is a sick rapper but he's definitely not underground anymore.

Like snuff said, please leave this thread jetsfuture. It's people like you who saturate the market by buying G-Unit CDs and footwear.

G-G-G-G-G-G-G-UNOT


saying that makes me think you're reetarded, its sounds stupid.

[etk]

saying that makes me think you're reetarded, its sounds stupid.

It does sound stupid when you hear it, but it doesn't read stupid..... (insert random smiley that we don't seem to have on these new forums)

[bantx]

Anyone notice everyone from the Dallas area appears to be on crack on this site?

you gotta be kinding me you dont think bun-b is good? even though he blew up doesnt mean hes wack all the sudden most of the good lyricist came from underground and blew up its bound to happen.

[cunningham06]

I like Bun B, but we are appreciating artists who never got that kind of recognition, who rightfully deserved more than they got. Mainstream rap gets talked about enough, surprisingly few rap fans know anything about underground rap.

[etk]

Underground rap doesn't catch me because most of the time the beats are lame and boring. With mainstream rap you get dynamic producers and beats that serve different purposes. I agree that usually underground rappers are more talented and better lyricists, but the music just doesn't sound the same and I can't vibe to it. I'd take good production with bad rap over good rap with bad production any day of the week. That's why they don't get the recognition they deserve.

[Hines]

damn im suprised nobody said these two. if they r concidered underground the two best are probably my boy papoose and jae millz. they be killin fools

[cunningham06]

Underground rap doesn't catch me because most of the time the beats are lame and boring. With mainstream rap you get dynamic producers and beats that serve different purposes. I agree that usually underground rappers are more talented and better lyricists, but the music just doesn't sound the same and I can't vibe to it. I'd take good production with bad rap over good rap with bad production any day of the week. That's why they don't get the recognition they deserve.

On average, that is correct, mainstream songs for the most part have better beats than underground songs. However my favorite beats are all from songs that aren't mainstream. Plenty of underground songs have great beats, you just have to know where to find them. Most of the songs of Army of the Pharoahs I have listened to have great beats, and plus it depends on what kind of beat you like. If it's jazzy beats then underground has mainstream beat easily. People under the Stairs, Dilated Peoples, Cunninlynguists, all have good beats.

Then there are songs in the gray area between mainstream and underground, like Jurassic 5 and the Roots. Most people know these groups but don't know many songs by them except for their most famous ones, What's Golden, and the Seed 2.0. My favorite beats are J5 and the Roots beats. Mainstreams got the quantity, but not the quality.

[snuff]

Underground rap doesn't catch me because most of the time the beats are lame and boring. With mainstream rap you get dynamic producers and beats that serve different purposes. I agree that usually underground rappers are more talented and better lyricists, but the music just doesn't sound the same and I can't vibe to it. I'd take good production with bad rap over good rap with bad production any day of the week. That's why they don't get the recognition they deserve.You got it all messed up.... The good production is the underground with detailed beats and samples. The mainstream is repetitive bullshiat made of fruity loops with bass added to it.

[KCJ58]

Jae Millz, Madlib, 2 Sense, Ric Jilla, and AZ

[bored of education]

Mixtape rappers bore me.

[Paranoidmoonduck]

Underground rap doesn't catch me because most of the time the beats are lame and boring. With mainstream rap you get dynamic producers and beats that serve different purposes. I agree that usually underground rappers are more talented and better lyricists, but the music just doesn't sound the same and I can't vibe to it. I'd take good production with bad rap over good rap with bad production any day of the week. That's why they don't get the recognition they deserve.

Don't agree in the least.

The best producers are almost all underground, or at least not producing the mainstream stuff these days. Who does the mainstream have? Dr. Dre and Kayne (seriously, inform me, I have no idea)?

Finding good underground can be difficult, but the good stuff is infinitely better than the crap that's going platinum these days.

[bigG]

Wutang Clan is the ultimate underground hip hop group.
Some of my other favorites are

Saigon
Papoose
C-Rayz Wallz
Canniball Ox
Deltron
Evidence/Dilated Peoples
Murs ( If u haven't heard of him please go buy Murs 3:16)
Little Brother
Buckshot