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jballa838
04-25-2008, 12:07 PM
No thread made. . . So have at it.

GO DAWGS!

iworshipbender
04-25-2008, 12:33 PM
You misspelled Ducks.

Turtlepower
04-25-2008, 02:04 PM
So here is how I see the PAC-10 shaping out this year...

1. USC
2. ASU
3. Oregon
4. UCLA
5. Oregon State
6. Washington
7. Cal
8. Stanford
9. Wazzu
10. Arizona

What are your PAC-10 standing predictions?

YAYareaRB
04-25-2008, 02:05 PM
GO HUSKIES.. I hope my boy starts linebacker this season. He started a couple last season as a true freshmen.

duckseason
04-25-2008, 03:42 PM
Tough break for UCLA. Both Cowan and Olson went down with injuries within 10 minutes of each other during yesterday's practice.

http://www.dailynews.com/ucla/ci_9047151

YAYareaRB
04-25-2008, 06:38 PM
Tough break for UCLA. Both Cowan and Olson went down with injuries within 10 minutes of each other during yesterday's practice.

http://www.dailynews.com/ucla/ci_9047151

Damn, that sucks. Olson shoulda stayed the course and went to BYU

Hines
04-25-2008, 08:44 PM
I hope ASU learns from last year and pulls in a stronger season and can beat the Pac Ten big boys. I will be rooting for them. I have a friend whos going to UofA next year so I am hoping they play well as well.

DragonFireKai
04-25-2008, 08:50 PM
I hope ASU learns from last year and pulls in a stronger season and can beat the Pac Ten big boys. I will be rooting for them. I have a friend whos going to UofA next year so I am hoping they play well as well.

ASU has the best gameday coach in the conference. Thankfully, what they don't have, is the talent for Erickson to fully utilize. If Erickson ever got him a good recruiter, I'd be terrified.

duckseason
04-26-2008, 10:09 PM
Tough break for UCLA. Both Cowan and Olson went down with injuries within 10 minutes of each other during yesterday's practice.

http://www.dailynews.com/ucla/ci_9047151

Turns out that Cowan will miss the entire season with a torn ACL, and Olson is expected to miss at least 6 weeks with a broken bone in his foot.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/football/la-sp-ucla27apr27,1,724675.story?track=rss

doingthisinsteadofwork
04-26-2008, 10:27 PM
All of you shall experience the amazingness of Jahvid Best.
Him and Kevin Riley are gonna be awesome.Cals defense will also be very good as long as they can stay healthy.

Turtlepower
04-26-2008, 11:17 PM
All of you shall experience the amazingness of Jahvid Best.
Him and Kevin Riley are gonna be awesome.Cals defense will also be very good as long as they can stay healthy.

Too bad by the time Riley starts, Longshore will lose about 4 games for you guys. =D

iworshipbender
04-27-2008, 04:39 AM
1. USC
2. Oregon
3. ASU
4. OSU
5. Cal
6. Washington
7. UCLA
8. Arizona
9. WSU
10. Stanford

That's my prediction.

doingthisinsteadofwork
04-27-2008, 11:50 PM
Too bad by the time Riley starts, Longshore will lose about 4 games for you guys. =D
Thats only if Longshore starts.Which I doubt he will.

TouchdownUSC
04-28-2008, 08:32 AM
ASU has the best gameday coach in the conference. Thankfully, what they don't have, is the talent for Erickson to fully utilize. If Erickson ever got him a good recruiter, I'd be terrified.


nah, pete carroll is a better gameday coach.

Brent
04-28-2008, 10:31 AM
nah, pete carroll is a better gameday coach.
I would say that it's more a ridiculous amount of talent that makes his staff look really good.

Turtlepower
04-28-2008, 10:47 AM
nah, pete carroll is a better gameday coach.

Let's agree that as far as offense goes, Erickson is the better gameday coach, but as far as defense goes, Pete Carroll is possibly the best in NCAA.

paladin
04-28-2008, 11:20 AM
USC will still be the team to beat to get the PAC-10 crown and the automatic BCS bid. Arizona State, Cal, and Oregon will be left to, 'aw, shucks we're in the top 12 in the nation but we still won't be going to a BCS bowl game because the system is broken' by beating up on each other and losing a critical away game.

UCLA would've been a real joker in the deck if their top two QBs hadn't gone down. Now, they'll be keeping Stanford warm and cozy this december.

When all is said and done, this will be another fun year for PAC-10 football but no big surprises.

duckseason
04-29-2008, 06:19 PM
For anybody who cares, here is our official two-deep heading into fall camp-

OFFENSE
WR
4 Jaison Williams
8 Terence Scott
LT
57 Fenuki Tupou
68 C.E. Kaiser
LG
51 Jeff Kendall
54 Jordan Holmes
C
60 Max Unger
51 Jeff Kendall
RG
71 Mark Lewis
63 Jon Teague
RT
78 Jacob Hucko
79 Mark Asper
TE
83 Ed Dickson
26 Malachi Lewis
WR
23 Jeff Maehl
89 Aaron Pflugrad
WR
18 Jamere Holland
10 Drew Davis
QB
7 Nate Costa
11 Justin Roper
RB
24 Jeremiah Johnson
22 Andre Crenshaw

DEFENSE
DE
39 Will Tukuafu
43 Mike Speed
DT
91 Ra’Shon Harris
50 Simi Toeaina
DT
97 Cole Linehan
95 Tonio Celotto
DE
49 Nick Reed
88 Brandon Bair
MLB
40 John Bacon
55 Casey Matthews
WLB
25 Kevin Garrett
35 Spencer Paysinger
SLB
13 Jerome Boyd
54 Riley Showalter
LCB
32 Jairus Byrd
17 Willie Glasper
RCB
6 Walter Thurmond III
37 Talmadge Jackson III
FS
2 T.J. Ward
14 Javes Lewis
ROV
15 Patrick Chung
1 Marvin Johnson

SPECIALISTS
PK
85 Matt Evensen
23 Morgan Flint
P
80 Josh Syria
26 Tim Taylor
KR
22 Andre Crenshaw
18 Jamere Holland
PR
23 Jeff Maehl
18 Jamere Holland
LS
62 Spencer Young
HLD
11 Justin Roper

iworshipbender
04-30-2008, 01:56 AM
Are you sure Crenshaw will get more PT than LaGarret Blount? I've heard nothing but positive things about him this summer, and Andre Crenshaw is basically JJ without the sick straight-arm. I know he did very well in the time he got when JJ was injured, but I don't think he does more than last year. He'll be the man next year though, along with Blount.

Also, it's good to see Maehl getting the nod to play WR, he did very well last year.

Do you know what we will be doing at QB next year? Will we go with Costa full time or will we do some sort of QB rotation? And if so, how soon should will it be settled?

duckseason
04-30-2008, 02:15 AM
Are you sure Crenshaw will get more PT than LaGarret Blount? I've heard nothing but positive things about him this summer, and Andre Crenshaw is basically JJ without the sick straight-arm. I know he did very well in the time he got when JJ was injured, but I don't think he does more than last year. He'll be the man next year though, along with Blount.

Also, it's good to see Maehl getting the nod to play WR, he did very well last year.

Do you know what we will be doing at QB next year? Will we go with Costa full time or will we do some sort of QB rotation? And if so, how soon should will it be settled?

Yeah I definitely think Blount will surpass Crenshaw on the depth chart sooner than later, but this is just what it is currently. I expect Blount and Johnson to split carries this year much in the same way Stewart and Johnson have in the past.

I think Costa is pretty much guaranteed to be our full-time starter this year. If he performs well, he'll keep his job. The guy to keep an eye on is Chris Harper. I really hope we redshirt him, but he looks ready. I wouldn't be surprised to see him play a Tebow role this year. The coaches have already compared him to Jake Locker. As of now, he has the edge over Darron Thomas. My best guess is that we redshirt Thomas, and Harper plays a role this year. I think next year will be when we have some difficult decisions to make at the QB position. Harper or Thomas may be just too talented to keep off the field. It's Costa's job to lose for now though.

iworshipbender
04-30-2008, 02:52 AM
I hope Bellotti redshirts both of the freshman QBs. I doubt it though, he tends to burn someone's redshirt for no apparent reason like he did with Costa in the PSU game a couple of years ago and with Dixon(I think, from what I understand, he greyshirted and was allowed to redshirt Kellen's sophomore year.)

Also, you DO realize it never rains in Autzen Stadium right? I've seen that sig for 2 years now, and I've thought about that every single time I see it haha. ;)

duckseason
04-30-2008, 03:17 AM
I hope Bellotti redshirts both of the freshman QBs. I doubt it though, he tends to burn someone's redshirt for no apparent reason like he did with Costa in the PSU game a couple of years ago and with Dixon(I think, from what I understand, he greyshirted and was allowed to redshirt Kellen's sophomore year.)

Also, you DO realize it never rains in Autzen Stadium right? I've seen that sig for 2 years now, and I've thought about that every single time I see it haha. ;)

Haha, yeah I realize that. I remember you commented on it once or twice before. I went over to mrgd when I first joined here and asked for a sig featuring Stewart and Johnson, with Autzen in the background and some kind of tagline. Somebody made me one, but it was pretty lame so I asked if anybody else could do better. So Vince made me this one and I loved it. It rarely rains at Autzen, but I still like the effect. But, now that Stewart's gone, I think it's time I retire this one and find another.

Fully agree about the redshirts. Given how raw Thomas is, I think he's a likely candidate to sit this year. But Harper is a big guy and looks like he could contribute right now. The fact that both of them arrived so early doesn't really help either. I think Harper is gonna see some PT this year. He's dangerous with the ball in his hands. Very raw as a passer though.

iworshipbender
04-30-2008, 03:49 AM
GOD I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS NEXT SEASON!!! As long as we don't get slammed by the injury bug again this year, we are in a fantastic position to make another run at the title, if not, the Pac-10 title as long as Arizona doesn't come in and **** everything up again. I'm starting to grow a festering hatred for Arizona, first they end Kellen Clemens' college career, and send us down a path that ends in losing to Oklahoma on an extremely frustrating end, then the next year they brutalize us at home. And as if that weren't enough, they ruin any possible shot of a national championship appearance after Dixon goes down for good there.

TouchdownUSC
04-30-2008, 06:47 PM
I haven't seen Costa, but id be very suprised if the Ducks have a better season than this last year.

soybean
04-30-2008, 07:33 PM
maybe the coaches intentionally injured both cowan and olson so they have an excuse to use chris forcier instead.

duckseason
05-01-2008, 04:35 AM
I haven't seen Costa, but id be very suprised if the Ducks have a better season than this last year.

Well, you shouldn't be. Assuming we manage to stay halfway healthy rather than lead the nation in torn ACL's, our already-solid defense will be much improved and our offense won't miss Stewart nearly as badly as most people will assume. Having both Blount and Johnson in the backfield will surely be an improvement over having a banged up Stewart.

Fenuki Tupou steadily matured last season to the point that he flat out dominated George Selvie in the Sun Bowl. He and Unger will anchor a solid front wall. Shouldn't miss a beat there. All of our guys made their offseason weight goals.

Our defense will be much more experienced, have much more depth, and will actually be more athletic in the positions where we lost seniors, such as FS, DT and WILL. Not to come off like too much of a homer, but I really do believe that this is one of the more underrated units in all of college football. At times last season, even by myself. And even as I speak, there are some ignorant Duck fans who think Aliotti should be fired.

When you look at last season's collapse, it shouldn't be surprising to anybody if we manage to win 9 games this year, even with a more difficult schedule. Not saying I expect that, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see our team improve in every phase of the game when you look at last season as a whole. Don't forget that Costa knows Kelly's offense just as well as Dixon did. And Kelly only used a small portion of his playbook last year. Now that he's got a full season under his belt with these players, look for him to open it up more and more as the season progresses.

Those who think this team was all about Dixon and Stewart this past year will surely be surprised if we win 9, but those who follow our team closely almost expect it. But again, this season's slate is a bit more difficult. I could certainly imagine a scenario or two where we struggle to attain bowl-eligibility. But really, that would be much more of a surprise than if we were to win 9.

duckseason
05-02-2008, 10:04 AM
Looks like ASU will be without cheerleaders this year-

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353953,00.html

I find it ridiculous in many ways, but especially that those girls are wearing just as much in those pictures as they do on the sidelines. Since when were cheerleaders there to do anything more than show off their bodies?

619
05-02-2008, 10:31 AM
I like how Oregon's defense is finally shaping up. I'm really looking forward to seeing how my boy Nate Costa performs as well and Oregon is certainly a team I'd watch out for even though on paper it seems like they took a step back.

Turtlepower
05-02-2008, 12:21 PM
Looks like ASU will be without cheerleaders this year-

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,353953,00.html

I find it ridiculous in many ways, but especially that those girls are wearing just as much in those pictures as they do on the sidelines. Since when were cheerleaders there to do anything more than show off their bodies?

It is a growing trend across college sports to get rid of cheerleaders and just merge the dance teams with cheerleading. Actually, my girlfriend is happy about this because whenever we go to a football/basketball game, she always comments on how ugly the cheerleaders are. Oh well, no one listens to them anyway. =D

Paranoidmoonduck
05-02-2008, 12:26 PM
Attention Jeff Tedford and the Cal football team. If you break my heart like you did last year, I will squat in all your trees. At once.

Turtlepower
05-02-2008, 12:27 PM
Attention Jeff Tedford and the Cal football team. If you break my heart like you did last year, I will squat in all your trees. At once.

If Nate Longshore gets the start over Kevin Riley, then you should join ASU and root for us to win the PAC-10!!!!! =D

SunDevil450
05-02-2008, 10:39 PM
ASU definitely has a shot this year. However we will only go as far as our OL takes us. Last year got ugly a few times. Im confident Erickson will add some more wrinkles to our offense.

Turtlepower
05-15-2008, 01:53 AM
ASU definitely has a shot this year. However we will only go as far as our OL takes us. Last year got ugly a few times. Im confident Erickson will add some more wrinkles to our offense.

That is exactly the sentiment that I'm feeling. Erickson did make a few tweeks by making OL assignments easier and also installing more 3-4 WR sets. This should be a fun season for ASU with many teams in the PAC-10 losing plenty of their starters.

duckseason
05-19-2008, 02:57 PM
edit- Justin Thompson is reportedly on schedule to be in Eugene August 2nd and will be eligible this season.

iworshipbender
05-22-2008, 06:37 PM
Well, Myles Wade is coming back to Oregon after spending a couple of years in exile at a JUCO in Arizona.

iworshipbender
06-10-2008, 04:32 PM
Good news everyone! TOM HANSEN IS STEPPING DOWN!!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=3434062

Turtlepower
06-21-2008, 07:01 PM
I found this and thought it was awesome:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/2091667277_43ee1edef9.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2154/2091667309_a94535212f.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2415/2092450240_666e86fe5b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2236/2092450254_42a774994e.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2313/2091667373_bb25655a7a.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2386/2091667391_baa3d15494.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2263/2091667409_2726af2e9d.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2266/2092450308_22cf67bd42.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2309/2091667465_36363e1efe.jpg

iworshipbender
07-14-2008, 12:49 PM
Sad news. Todd Doxey dead at 19.

http://www.kezi.com/article.aspx?id=45424

http://rgweb-c.registerguard.com/blo...s_passed_away/

It's a real shame, I remember when Oregon was recruiting him and how much I wanted to see him take the field.

duckseason
07-14-2008, 05:51 PM
Sad news. Todd Doxey dead at 19.

http://www.kezi.com/article.aspx?id=45424

http://rgweb-c.registerguard.com/blo...s_passed_away/

It's a real shame, I remember when Oregon was recruiting him and how much I wanted to see him take the field.
Sad news indeed.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4203/cmcapture12cc9.jpg

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/8245/pngujvhzodqpwtz20080714uv1.jpg

We'll miss you Todd.

Turtlepower
07-18-2008, 09:30 AM
So, what does everyone predict their team record will be. I'll take a shot at ASU.

Aug. 30 - NAU (W)
Sept. 6 - STANFORD (W)
Sept. 13 - UNLV (W)
Sept. 20 - GEORGIA (W)
Sept. 27 - OFF
Oct. 4 - at Cal (W)
Oct. 11 - at USC (L)
Oct. 18 - OFF
Oct. 25 - OREGON (W)
Nov. 1 - at Oregon State (L)
Nov. 8 - at Washington (W)
Nov. 15 - WASHINGTON STATE (W)
Nov. 22 - OFF
Nov. 28 - UCLA (W)
Dec. 6 - at Arizona (W)

So I see us losing twice. USC is always a tough game, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt until we beat them. As far as OSU is concerned, going to Corvallis is always a tough trip and the Beavers are always a top-notch team in the PAC-10.

Brent
07-18-2008, 10:11 AM
Sept. 20 - GEORGIA (W)
that should be exciting, I hope ASU wins.

Turtlepower
07-18-2008, 10:13 AM
that should be exciting, I hope ASU wins.

If we win that game, look for a jewfro on the field. That will be me!!!

504 to ATL
07-18-2008, 06:28 PM
Sept. 20 - GEORGIA (W)

Too bad you dont get them after they play Florida or LSU so they can be beat up.

504 to ATL
07-19-2008, 09:57 PM
iworshipbender or whoever you are you are one defensive kid. Way to blow my post out of context.

Did it ever occur to you you that I wanted UGA to lost to ASU? Where in my post did I say the Pac 10 was weak?

I guessing you are tired of hearing how the SEC is the best conference and it is getting to you.

duckseason
07-21-2008, 04:17 PM
Putting in a new HD screen at Autzen-

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1664/scoreboard20080721sr8.jpg

iworshipbender
07-21-2008, 04:24 PM
Putting in a new HD screen at Autzen-

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1664/scoreboard20080721sr8.jpg

Thank jesus, the old duckvision was showing it's years. Looks bigger than the last one, awesome.

Oh and 504, you're just an idiot. Just stop talking.

Brent
07-21-2008, 07:00 PM
Putting in a new HD screen at Autzen-

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1664/scoreboard20080721sr8.jpg
reminds me of our jumbo HD screen:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/idiotnumbr3/12thManTV_2006.jpg

504 to ATL
07-21-2008, 07:18 PM
Damn that Oregon football program is too loaded, those guys are so spoiled.

And Bender its okay, I know your team sucks you can try and take it out on me all you want.

iworshipbender
07-22-2008, 02:25 AM
My team could beat ANY SEC team on a neutral field any day of the week. My team has beaten Oklahoma, Michigan twice, a great Colorado team, all of the pac 10 teams. They've got snubbed for a chance at a national title game and completely dominated the team that dominated the team that went to the national championship, has gotten snubbed out of another BCS bowl bid thanks to the voter's utter incompetence and idiocy about their favorite **** football team who hasn't won a bowl game in twenty years all within this decade. No, my team doesn't suck, it's just the product of idiots who can't stay up past 10:00 EST to watch a Pac-10 game. The Pac-10 is THE toughest conference to win, because you play a round robin schedule against BCS teams without three to four breaks in the schedule to play Southeast Montana State at Butte, and Norfolk State. Granted SOME teams play good teams OOC occasionally, like Georgia actually had the balls to schedule one of it's four away games at ASU, but what about the other ten teams that schedule sunbelt and 1-aa teams?

504 to ATL
07-22-2008, 03:39 AM
My team could beat ANY SEC team on a neutral field any day of the week.

a great Colorado team

The Pac-10 is THE toughest conference to win

some grand statements here.

The first, I dont believe you could, you might even lose to two or three SEC teams. If the game against USC is any indication Carpenter would be on his ass the entire game against the speed rushers of UF and UGA for sure.

Second, this is where you lost me. They blow.

Third is highly debatable, it might or might not be true. But more than half the country and analysts disagree with you.

all that being said I still hope you can knock off UGA, or at least expose them.

iworshipbender
07-22-2008, 04:07 AM
Remember, I said COULD not that they WOULD beat any team from the SEC.

Go back to 2001, those Buffs knew how to play, the knocked off the Husker team that went to the championship game that year.

Name another BCS conference that can have anyone beat anyone during any week of the season. Stanford/USC, Arizona/Oregon, Hell OSU almost beat ASU when the Beavs were struggling, Washington was doing very well against Oregon until that fourth quarter.

duckseason
07-22-2008, 04:11 AM
some grand statements here.

The first, I dont believe you could, you might even lose to two or three SEC teams. If the game against USC is any indication Carpenter would be on his ass the entire game against the speed rushers of UF and UGA for sure.

Second, this is where you lost me. They blow.

Third is highly debatable, it might or might not be true. But more than half the country and analysts disagree with you.

all that being said I still hope you can knock off UGA, or at least expose them.

It's understandable that you wouldn't know who iworshipbender's team is just off the top of your head, but after reading his post, how did you come to the conclusion that it was ASU? How long have you been following college football?

504 to ATL
07-22-2008, 04:27 AM
Remember, I said COULD not that they WOULD beat any team from the SEC.

Go back to 2001, those Buffs knew how to play, the knocked off the Husker team that went to the championship game that year.

Name another BCS conference that can have anyone beat anyone during any week of the season. Stanford/USC, Arizona/Oregon, Hell OSU almost beat ASU when the Beavs were struggling, Washington was doing very well against Oregon until that fourth quarter.

Yeah they could you are right about that.

Just how long are we going back with this thing? The Buffs were definitely good a few years back, heck I wished they would knock off Oklahoma every time, but for the past few seasons they have been bottom of the barrel.

You third point is kind of misleading, Stanford should never beat those teams, in fact losing to them would be a choke job for the top flight Pac10 teams. Since the ACC is so weak I can see any team beating anyone in there. If you get rid of the bottom 2 teams of the SEC then anyone can beat anyone, but as with the Pac10 the top flight teams shouldn't.

*Oh I forgot about this from your pleading your case post. Oh by the way, that W over Oklahoma I wouldn't take credit for that one. Oklahoma got screwed by the refs in the worst way possible.

@Duckseason

he brought up the ASU UGA game in his post, so I was talking about that. I would assume he is an Oregon follower since his location is in Oregon.

I have been closely following College ball since about 98, I watched since the mid 90's but only followed close in the late 90's. For FSU actually, look how the mighty have fallen lol. I was always an NFL guy before that, but now I enjoy NCAA a bit more.

iworshipbender
07-22-2008, 04:27 AM
It's understandable that you wouldn't know who iworshipbender's team is just off the top of your head, but after reading his post, how did you come to the conclusion that it was ASU? How long have you been following college football?

It's probably because I told him in a rep that in regards to his post about ASU not playing UGA after they play LSU and Florida "Yeah, because ASU wouldn't be beat up in the Pac-10 right?" (or something like that)

iworshipbender
07-22-2008, 04:34 AM
Yeah they could you are right about that.

Just how long are we going back with this thing? The Buffs were definitely good a few years back, heck I wished they would knock off Oklahoma every time, but for the past few seasons they have been bottom of the barrel.

You third point is kind of misleading, Stanford should never beat those teams, in fact losing to them would be a choke job for the top flight Pac10 teams. Since the ACC is so weak I can see any team beating anyone in there. If you get rid of the bottom 2 teams of the SEC then anyone can beat anyone, but as with the Pac10 the top flight teams shouldn't.

@Duckseason

he said ASU in his post, thats how I figured he was talking about ASU.

I have been closely following College ball since about 98, I watched since the mid 90's but only followed close in the late 90's. For FSU actually, look how the mighty have fallen lol.The time frame I specified was this past decade, 2000 on.

Duke will not beat Miami within the next 10 years, I don't care how bad Miami gets.

I hate that "well if you get rid of two teams in the sec..." argument, because the SEC will never dump Vanderbilt. They need them so they can claim to have -some- academic prestige.

504 to ATL
07-22-2008, 04:38 AM
The time frame I specified was this past decade, 2000 on.

Duke will not beat Miami within the next 10 years, I don't care how bad Miami gets.

I hate that "well if you get rid of two teams in the sec..." argument, because the SEC will never dump Vanderbilt. They need them so they can claim to have -some- academic prestige.

Gotcha

You forget Duke nearly beat Miami in 06. Also why did you choose Miami? They are in the tubes and are pretty bad now.

Well they will keep Vany so they can have the SECCG, not for the academics so much.

504 to ATL
07-22-2008, 04:44 AM
It's probably because I told him in a rep that in regards to his post about ASU not playing UGA after they play LSU and Florida "Yeah, because ASU wouldn't be beat up in the Pac-10 right?" (or something like that)

Nah u got Oregon in your profile why would I do that. In my post it is briefly describing ASU against UGA.

iworshipbender
07-22-2008, 04:46 AM
Gotcha

You forget Duke nearly beat Miami in 06. Also why did you choose Miami? They are in the tubes and are pretty bad now.

Well they will keep Vany so they can have the SECCG, not for the academics so much.

Well, the whole ACC is in the crapper haha. I just chose one that popped into my head, but it still rings true does it not?

That's another thing, how badly can those win totals be blown out of context because they get five or six easy games a year? How often does LSU have to play Florida, Georgia, Tennessee in the same year?

When's the last time Vanderbilt or Ole Miss, or MSU won the conference? or even beat LSU, Georgia or Florida? Within the past decade every team has beaten every other team in the Pac-10, and grabbed a at least a share of the title(with the exception of Arizona)

duckseason
07-22-2008, 05:01 AM
Nah u got Oregon in your profile why would I do that. In my post it is briefly describing ASU against UGA.

Not that it's a big deal, but it's clear in the post I quoted that you thought his team was ASU.


The first, I dont believe you could, you might even lose to two or three SEC teams. If the game against USC is any indication Carpenter would be on his ass the entire game against the speed rushers of UF and UGA for sure.

all that being said I still hope you can knock off UGA, or at least expose them.

duckseason
07-22-2008, 05:54 AM
Damn that Oregon football program is too loaded, those guys are so spoiled.

Relatively speaking, not at all. The majority of big time programs spend far more than Oregon does on both football and athletics in general.

In the Pac-10 alone, 6 teams spend more on both football and general athletics than Oregon does. Only WSU, OSU and Arizona spend less.

Now, schools like tOSU, Wisconsin, Texas, Auburn, Alabama, Florida...etc, those programs are loaded. There are quite a few schools with twice the budget of Oregon.

iworshipbender
07-22-2008, 05:57 AM
On a side note, ASU is the worst traveling team in the pac-10. The section where the visiting ASU fans were last year(mind you, they were highly ranked and undefeated,) took up about as much space as USC's band and about 3 more rows. For god's sake, Oklahoma filled out a couple of sections plus half of a third one:

ASU:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2039/asufansev0.jpg
OU:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3073/soonerfansvq2.jpg
They might have filled out the top of section 36 too, I can't remember.

Brent
07-22-2008, 06:58 AM
My team has beaten Oklahoma
Was this the year that Oregon was ranked 6th or so and lost to OU in the Holiday Bowl? Or when the refs gave Oregon that onside kick even though an OU player got it and it didnt even go 10 yards, thus giving Oregon a chance to win it when they should not have had one?

Go back to 2001, those Buffs knew how to play, the knocked off the Husker team that went to the championship game that year.
You mean the Colorado team that had an awful defense (but a stacked offense) that gave up like 35 points to Nebraska and lost to Fresno State to start the year off, right?

The majority of big time programs spend far more than Oregon does on both football and athletics in general.
You're right, Phil Knight spends all that money.

504 to ATL
07-22-2008, 07:02 AM
Well, the whole ACC is in the crapper haha. I just chose one that popped into my head, but it still rings true does it not?

That's another thing, how badly can those win totals be blown out of context because they get five or six easy games a year? How often does LSU have to play Florida, Georgia, Tennessee in the same year?

When's the last time Vanderbilt or Ole Miss, or MSU won the conference? or even beat LSU, Georgia or Florida? Within the past decade every team has beaten every other team in the Pac-10, and grabbed a at least a share of the title(with the exception of Arizona)

Oh certainly, I still to this day think of Miami as a powerhouse but then realize they blow now. That conference is completely up for grabs.

Ole Miss has nearly beaten LSU the past 2 seasons, MSU has had some upset wins this past year. Vandy might get one near upset, but yes they tend to blow.

I still equate Stanford to the Ole Pisses and Vandy's though, they should never beat the top flight teams of the conference, but it is not out of the realm of possibility.

@duck

mistakes happen I guess lol.

504 to ATL
07-22-2008, 07:04 AM
As to Oregon and their football not being spoiled, this might speak for itself.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J1NyaTVUhFQ

I have never seen something so lavish for football players.

iworshipbender
07-22-2008, 07:38 AM
Was this the year that Oregon was ranked 6th or so and lost to OU in the Holiday Bowl? I LIKE TO CRY ABOUT POOR REFFING DECISIONS! BAWWWWWWWWW.


You mean the Colorado team that had an awful defense (but a stacked offense) that gave up like 35 points to Nebraska and lost to Fresno State to start the year off, right?


You're right, Phil Knight spends all that money.

The refs were complete crap that entire game, whether it was bad spots, letting Oklahoma run a play for a touchdown(which was a bad call and was brought back for a big gain) even though they were at least two second into a delay of game penalty, or the onside kick. guess what, maybe that Oklahoma kicker should have aimed higher or played some of that vaunted "defense" Pac-10 teams know nothing about in the last two minutes. Guess what? Bad call, we get it. If you're going to ***** and moan about that, then you can't rag on Oregon for losing to a team that almost had all of it's wins in 2005 revoked because of the Big Red(Rhett Bomar) situation.

You know what? letting Oklahoma keep those wins even though it's starting QB was taking freebies from boosters was as bad as the onside kick call. I'm going to get all of my Pac-10 buddies to act like butt-hurt retards over it.

That stacked offense scored only 16 points in that fiesta bowl against Oregon, I'd call that a good quality win over a team that won 11 games that year.

Maybe if A&M produced more than janitors and pizza boys, they could have a multi-billion dollar booster that donates hefty amounts of his fortune to both the athletic and academic departments like Oregon does.

duckseason
07-22-2008, 04:32 PM
You're right, Phil Knight spends all that money.

Oregon has it's donors, and other schools have theirs. Just because Knight is the most famous donor in the country doesn't mean that Oregon is the most loaded program.

The 2 million dollar videoboard for example, was paid for with funds from the 4 million dollar bonus we received from our recent renewal with OSN/IMG College.

Do you know how many schools have partnerships with IMG College?

As to Oregon and their football not being spoiled, this might speak for itself.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=J1NyaTVUhFQ

I have never seen something so lavish for football players.

Oh I agree, we have some of the nicest facilities in the nation, no question. But that's more a function of us being late to the party than being more loaded than other programs. Our stuff is newer, therefore it's nicer. As other big time programs upgrade their facilities, ours will become less and less impressive each year. It's the same thing that happens with stadiums in baseball or football.

You think we spend chunks quicker than a school like Ohio State? Hell, our biggest rival, the Washington Huskies bring in more money from donors than we do.

Don't get me wrong here, I'd love for Oregon to be the richest program in college football. All I'm pointing out here is that it's simply not true.

duckseason
07-22-2008, 04:36 PM
I still equate Stanford to the Ole Pisses and Vandy's though, they should never beat the top flight teams of the conference, but it is not out of the realm of possibility.
The reason for this is that your viewpoint is limited to the past decade or so. Stanford football has some pretty good history. Hell, they won the conference as recently as 1999. They finished 9-3 in 2001.

How can you say they "should never beat the top flight teams of the conference" when they've been one of those teams as recently as '01?

The past few years have been their low point. For the most part, they've always been competitive. With Harbaugh and these recruits they've been getting, you'll see them begin to rise out of the cellar and become contenders in the next few years. If you've been watching them, this is already occurring.

The bottom team in the Pac-10 this year will be WSU. Arizona, Washington and Stanford will be competitive and win games that people think they shouldn't. Those 3 teams aren't nearly as bad as most of the nation thinks.

I think the key point you're missing is that the Pac-10 is very fluid from top to bottom, year to year. It wasn't too long ago that even USC was struggling season after season. It is very, very difficult to put together a string of great seasons in the Pac-10. There are just too many teams that are capable of beating each other. When you look at what we've done OOC, this shows conference strength, rather than weakness.

Paranoidmoonduck
07-22-2008, 09:39 PM
Don't get me wrong here, I'd love for Oregon to be the richest program in college football. All I'm pointing out here is that it's simply not true.

They might not have the most money, but they have one of the richest habitual donating parties in Nike.

duckseason
07-22-2008, 09:47 PM
They might not have the most money, but they have one of the richest habitual donating parties in Nike.

Thanks for pointing that out. I had no idea.

Paranoidmoonduck
07-22-2008, 10:26 PM
Thanks for pointing that out. I had no idea.

I'm late to the discussion. My bad.

That said, Nike's relationship with Oregon isn't the same as just any corporate donor to any school. $50 million of Autzen Stadium is thanks to Phil Knight.

duckseason
07-22-2008, 10:48 PM
I'm late to the discussion. My bad.

That said, Nike's relationship with Oregon isn't the same as just any corporate donor to any school. $50 million of Autzen Stadium is thanks to Phil Knight.
Right. It's not the same in the sense that Phil Knight is very famous and every time he makes a donation, it's in the newspaper. Other than that, every school has their donors. Joe Blow's money spends just the same as Knight's. If one school has 400 donations that total 50 million, is that 50 million less significant than a single 50 million dollar donation from Knight?

The point I'm making is that Oregon is far from being the richest football program in the nation.

I'm thankful for and recognize what Knight has done for Oregon.

Paranoidmoonduck
07-22-2008, 11:04 PM
Because Oregon definitely has no other contributors or something?

Oregon's sports facilities are definitely widely known to be some of the more luxury based, and have influenced a whole generation of similar facilities in the race to draw recruits. I wouldn't suggest that Oregon is the richest school, but they have substantial backing and substantial funds within the school, and in terms of their football program they are at the lead of a lot of things.

I'm not sure why we're even arguing this.

duckseason
07-22-2008, 11:29 PM
Because Oregon definitely has no other contributors or something?

In comparison to most other big time programs, we have nothing other than Knight. Even with him, there are many schools that bring in more than we do. That is my point. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that.
Oregon's sports facilities are definitely widely known to be some of the more luxury based, and have influenced a whole generation of similar facilities in the race to draw recruits. I wouldn't suggest that Oregon is the richest school, but they have substantial backing and substantial funds within the school, and in terms of their football program they are at the lead of a lot of things.
I agree with this. Never said any different.



I'm not sure why we're even arguing this.

Me neither. I was responding to the ridiculous insinuation that our program has more money than it can handle. For whatever reason, you seem to think I don't know who Phil Knight is or what our locker room looks like.

The bottom line is that there are many schools who bring in and spend more than Oregon does on football.

That is all I'm saying.

Paranoidmoonduck
07-22-2008, 11:59 PM
The bottom line is that there are many schools who bring in and spend more than Oregon does on football.

That is all I'm saying.

Then I completely agree. And I didn't particularly mean to insinuate anything about your knowledge of the Oregon program.

Turtlepower
07-23-2008, 12:00 AM
All I know is that ASU will be #2 in the PAC-10 and Oregon will be #3. =D

504 to ATL
07-23-2008, 12:30 AM
Will either of them even get to a BCS bowl?

Turtlepower
07-23-2008, 12:33 AM
Will either of them even get to a BCS bowl?

First of all, stop being a troll. Second of all, ASU deserved to be in a BCS bowl last year, so I don't see why they couldn't be in one this year.

504 to ATL
07-23-2008, 04:39 AM
It was a serious question dipsh1t.

Are you serious on your second point? ASU was so overrated last year, they were seriously exposed by USC. Heck their QB spent more time on the dirt than in the pocket.

504 to ATL
07-23-2008, 04:42 AM
Actually upon further reflection they were probably better than Kansas and Illinois, last years BCS crop was pretty weak aside from the top 5 teams or so.

duckseason
07-26-2008, 02:51 AM
Before-

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/2899/f30526f1ouh6.jpg

After-

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/6582/newscoreboarddc1.jpg

504 to ATL
07-26-2008, 04:21 AM
Damn put The Dark Knight up on that and call it a day. Where will the sponsor logos go?

duckseason
07-26-2008, 04:37 AM
Damn put The Dark Knight up on that and call it a day. Where will the sponsor logos go?
From what I've heard, the ads will show up during play, on the actual screen. We're also replacing the old roller boards next to the tunnels with 5' by 30.5' LED screens.

504 to ATL
07-26-2008, 05:37 AM
Hell before you do that figure out a way to keep all that fog out of the stadium. Its terrible for tv viewers, but I guess its your secret weapon so long as you are wearing white.

oregonbucfan
07-26-2008, 04:50 PM
My standing
1) USC
2) Oregon
3) ASU coin flip between 2 and 3
4) Cal
5) Arizona
6) Washington
7) OSU
8) UCLA
9) Stanford
10) Wazzu

Brent
07-26-2008, 06:24 PM
Maybe if A&M produced more than janitors and pizza boys, they could have a multi-billion dollar booster that donates hefty amounts of his fortune to both the athletic and academic departments like Oregon does.
Talking about Phil Knight wasn't a stab at the program. I was merely joking, I couldn't care less if it's all coming from one guy or one million people. Regardless, it appears you needed to take a shot at my school so let me share with you, for clarification's sake, that Texas A&M is hardly at a loss for donations, in the past 18 months this school has received $1.5 billion in alumni donations alone.

duckseason
07-26-2008, 07:41 PM
Duck LB Kevin Garrett has been suspended indefinitely.

http://oregon.scout.com/2/772630.html

We've got some guys who should be able to step in, but this sucks. Wonder what he did.

504 to ATL
07-26-2008, 08:05 PM
Poked someone in the butt O.o

504 to ATL
07-27-2008, 09:39 PM
So I guess no one ever figured out what he did wrong?

iworshipbender
07-27-2008, 09:45 PM
probably grades.

duckseason
07-28-2008, 03:17 PM
DUI. He was also cited for driving uninsured, no registration, improper right turn, and failure to obey a traffic control device.

This happened over by 18th and Hilyard. He was on his way home from a party. F'n dummy. 3am on a Friday night in Eugene, it's almost guaranteed you'll be pulled over. I wouldn't drive at that time even if I were clean. But to drink and drive in the first place, wow. Can't believe none of the other guys managed to stop him.

iworshipbender
07-29-2008, 12:45 AM
On a slightly hilarious note, Oregon State has changed their uniforms again. I swear, they change their uniforms more than we do.

http://www.portlandtribune.com/news_graphics/121728958176120200.jpg

duckseason
07-29-2008, 12:53 AM
Yeah they didn't like that everybody made fun of their bra-straps so they had to change it up.

DragonFireKai
07-29-2008, 01:13 AM
Yeah they didn't like that everybody made fun of their bra-straps so they had to change it up.

Thank God we got rid of that. No one liked it. We didn't like to have the second ugliest unis in the state.

504 to ATL
07-29-2008, 02:36 AM
Its kind of different strapping up every Saturday thinking its Halloween in the black and orange.

iworshipbender
07-29-2008, 05:25 AM
Thank God we got rid of that. No one liked it. We didn't like to have the second ugliest unis in the state.

I'm sorry, but looking like you had just been caught by your dad letting your boyfriend get to second base makes your (old)uniforms uglier than having diamond plating on your sleeves and your knees, three different helmets, and yellow combined.

504 to ATL
07-29-2008, 06:21 AM
I'm sorry, but looking like you had just been caught by your dad letting your boyfriend get to second base makes your uniforms uglier than having diamond plating on your sleeves and your knees, three different helmets, and yellow combined.

Complete Win, until the end. That yellow is some ugly. But white helmets are da ****.

iworshipbender
07-29-2008, 06:38 AM
Personally, I love the stormtrooper look, and I have ever since Texas went to the rosebowl in 2004. but two helmets is excessive and three is ridiculous, and we're supposed to add a black one according to LaGarrette Blount.

DragonFireKai
07-29-2008, 01:37 PM
I'm sorry, but looking like you had just been caught by your dad letting your boyfriend get to second base makes your (old)uniforms uglier than having diamond plating on your sleeves and your knees, three different helmets, and yellow combined.

You must have missed the Bowl game against BYU in 06. Ugliest uniform ever. Vomit ochre helmets with silver ghost flames? The ducks were almost certainly on crack when they picked them.

duckseason
07-29-2008, 08:52 PM
Just came across this video and thought you guys might get a chuckle or two out of it.

DUCK POON vs 'ZONA POON (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfNJ87mq1LI)

504 to ATL
07-29-2008, 09:19 PM
The funniest part was the Guy on the rights face, the look of constipation.

BRAVEHEART
07-30-2008, 02:29 AM
Good evening gentlemen.

Turtlepower
07-30-2008, 02:31 AM
Good evening gentlemen.

Good evening sir. Go Sun Devils!!!

BRAVEHEART
07-30-2008, 02:45 AM
Good evening sir. Go Sun Devils!!!

Devils, judging by your SN I thought you were a terp fan. BTW, I'll be rooting for the devils when they play the dawgs.

Turtlepower
07-30-2008, 02:47 AM
Devils, judging by your SN I thought you were a terp fan. BTW, I'll be rooting for the devils when they play the dawgs.

Nah, I like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I'm an ASU student, so they're my team through and through!!!

BRAVEHEART
07-30-2008, 02:54 AM
Nah, I like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I'm an ASU student, so they're my team through and through!!!

Me too.

I respect your loyalty, i wish more fans showed this quality.

Turtlepower
07-30-2008, 10:34 AM
What is with all of these PAC-10 teams getting horrible new uniforms?

http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/38/90/703507441/n703507441_1141749_3867.jpg

YAYareaRB
07-30-2008, 10:54 AM
What is with all of these PAC-10 teams getting horrible new uniforms?

http://photos-f.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v261/38/90/703507441/n703507441_1141749_3867.jpg

I think those are nice.

Turtlepower
07-30-2008, 10:55 AM
I think those are nice.

I think the yellow around the collar is pretty weird. And what is with the 2 lines right below the collar???

BRAVEHEART
07-30-2008, 02:04 PM
I like it, makes em look different than those WVU/Cal jerseys. It'll probably look better on the field.

Paranoidmoonduck
07-30-2008, 02:17 PM
http://www.exosports.com/product-images/xpcal11250804.jpg

Personally, I like it. More blue overall with a little gold around the collar. The collar is a bit strange, but not terrible or anything.

Brent
07-30-2008, 02:17 PM
I like those Cal uniforms. I think they look pretty cool, like bear scratches. Will there be a solid yellow jersey/pants alternate?

Paranoidmoonduck
07-30-2008, 02:20 PM
http://www.exosports.com/product-images/xpcal11170856.jpg
http://www.exosports.com/product-images/xpcal11380856.jpg

BRAVEHEART
07-30-2008, 03:02 PM
Top-10 Pac CB's

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/pac10/0-1-99/Ranking-the-Pac-10-cornerbacks.html

duckseason
07-30-2008, 03:57 PM
Top-10 Pac CB's

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/pac10/0-1-99/Ranking-the-Pac-10-cornerbacks.html

He's got Byrd and Thurmond backwards. Byrd is a great corner, but Thurmond's got him both as a cover guy and as a tackler. He's quicker, faster, more aggressive, and shows better instincts and reaction time. It's tough to knock Byrd, but Thurmond is very underrated at this point.

duckseason
07-30-2008, 04:11 PM
Not sure whether I like the Cal uniforms yet. I always thought their helmets were nice and clean. I've never really been a fan of the stripe. But putting that claw logo on the back is my favorite thing about these new jerseys. Not sure what to think about the collars yet. The dash mark thingies beneath the collar look kinda out of place.

duckseason
07-30-2008, 04:26 PM
Looks like former Stanford AD Ted Leland is the likely successor to Hansen as Pac-10 commish. (http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/huskyfootball/2008/07/is_ted_leland_likely_the_next.html)

BRAVEHEART
07-30-2008, 04:44 PM
He's got Byrd and Thurmond backwards. Byrd is a great corner, but Thurmond's got him both as a cover guy and as a tackler. He's quicker, faster, more aggressive, and shows better instincts and reaction time. It's tough to knock Byrd, but Thurmond is very underrated at this point.

so it's sorta like the Kevin Ellison Taylor Mays situation.

duckseason
07-30-2008, 04:49 PM
so it's sorta like the Kevin Ellison Taylor Mays situation.
Yeah kinda, but Byrd isn't a physical freak surefire first rounder and his production parallels that of Thurmond.

duckseason
07-30-2008, 04:52 PM
Progress on our new board-

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4065/scoreboard20080729ca0.jpg

and the ones at field level-

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5021/xyrunjiuyddqapu20080729uz3.jpg

BRAVEHEART
07-30-2008, 04:58 PM
Wowzer, I wonder if that's as big as UT's (texas) Screenzilla (or whatever they call it).

duckseason
07-30-2008, 05:11 PM
Wowzer, I wonder if that's as big as UT's (texas) Screenzilla (or whatever they call it).

Not even close. Ours will be 33 by 89, Texas' is 81 by 136.

BRAVEHEART
07-30-2008, 05:16 PM
Not even close. Ours will be 33 by 89, Texas' is 81 by 136.

Oh, we'll I guess everything's bigger in texas.

Turtlepower
07-31-2008, 08:41 PM
Brian Cushing is a Sun Devil fan with his pitchfork:

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/824/playboyeventmy1.jpg

Punisher
07-31-2008, 10:24 PM
He also took pictures with the rest of the playboy all americans. He's a popular guy, that Brian Cushing.

BRAVEHEART
07-31-2008, 10:39 PM
Brian Cushing is a Sun Devil fan with his pitchfork:

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/824/playboyeventmy1.jpg

where are the pictures of Malcolm Jenkins puking? I wanna see those.

Punisher
07-31-2008, 10:45 PM
I just noticed Brian Cushing is throwing up the "shocker".

Turtlepower
07-31-2008, 10:46 PM
I just noticed Brian Cushing is throwing up the "shocker".

No, it is a pitchfork that ASU fans throw up. =P

BRAVEHEART
07-31-2008, 10:50 PM
No, it is a pitchfork that ASU fans throw up. =P

Well, universally it's the shocker.

iworshipbender
07-31-2008, 11:08 PM
the shocker is where the index and middle finger touch. that's the pitchfork for ASU

BRAVEHEART
07-31-2008, 11:17 PM
the shocker is where the index and middle finger touch. that's the pitchfork for ASU

Nobody throws up "pitchforks" except for ASU students/alums/players and cush is neither of these. IMO It's obvious that it's the shocker.

iworshipbender
07-31-2008, 11:31 PM
Nobody throws up "pitchforks" except for ASU students/alums/players and cush is neither of these. IMO It's obvious that it's the shocker.

than hes doin it rong.

Punisher
07-31-2008, 11:39 PM
Everyone has their own style, and judging from Cushing's rep he has had more then enough experience to develop his ...

Moving on, It appears that Brian Cushing will have to wait another year before he can see the field. Another back surgery will keep Chris Out more then half the season.

duckseason
08-01-2008, 10:24 PM
Ducks just brought in 4-star JC LB Tyrell Irvin. (http://oregon.scout.com/2/774501.html)

BRAVEHEART
08-01-2008, 11:20 PM
Ducks just brought in 4-star JC LB Tyrell Irvin. (http://oregon.scout.com/2/774501.html)

Is he good?

duckseason
08-02-2008, 04:56 AM
Is he good?
Never seen him play or even heard of him until today. 4-stars is always a nice thing to see though.

Apparently, this guy has been a silent commit for over a month now and was actually the "other guy" in the whole Xavier Ramos debacle.

BRAVEHEART
08-02-2008, 10:52 PM
Question...who is the best WR in the PAC this year?

Punisher
08-02-2008, 10:59 PM
I would have to go with Sammie Stroughter as the head of the Pac.

iworshipbender
08-02-2008, 11:19 PM
If Jaison Williams learns how to catch a pass on third down... him.

BRAVEHEART
08-02-2008, 11:26 PM
I would have to go with Sammie Stroughter as the head of the Pac.

He's still playing? If so, then yes right now he'd be the best.

Turtlepower
08-02-2008, 11:29 PM
I would have to go with Sammie Stroughter as the head of the Pac.

Sammie Stroughter is the best #1 receiver, followed by Chris McGaha as the best slot receiver. =P

504 to ATL
08-02-2008, 11:40 PM
He's still playing?

I was thinking the same thing, haha. It feels like I first heard his name ages ago.

BRAVEHEART
08-03-2008, 12:19 AM
I was thinking the same thing, haha. It feels like I first heard his name ages ago.

I thought last year was his last, or maybe he got another year of eligibility after his whole "fall out" thing? I'm pretty sure that's it.


btw,

Here's the shocker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx1fr5riZzU&feature=related

iworshipbender
08-03-2008, 12:24 AM
I thought last year was his last, or maybe he got another year of eligibility after his whole "fall out" thing? I'm pretty sure that's it.


btw,

Here's the shocker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx1fr5riZzU&feature=related

Medical redshirt

BRAVEHEART
08-03-2008, 12:59 AM
Medical redshirt

where do you think he'll be drafted(if he's drafted)? He's got some speed and toughness...do you think he'll be a work-out warrior at the combines?

Turtlepower
08-03-2008, 01:22 AM
where do you think he'll be drafted(if he's drafted)? He's got some speed and toughness...do you think he'll be a work-out warrior at the combines?

It depends on his performance this year. I think he can be a first-rounder if he performs like he did in 06.

BRAVEHEART
08-03-2008, 01:43 AM
Who's throwing the ball to him now? I don't think he'll have a season like that again, and it's not because his talent...but more like the lack of talent around him. I'm assuming the offense and running game will be a step back this year and teams will be looking to stop Sammie (IMO).

Btw didn't OSU pick up a some talented Juco RB last season? Maybe that dude will carry the load.

duckseason
08-03-2008, 05:01 AM
Who's throwing the ball to him now? I don't think he'll have a season like that again, and it's not because his talent...but more like the lack of talent around him. I'm assuming the offense and running game will be a step back this year and teams will be looking to stop Sammie (IMO).

Btw didn't OSU pick up a some talented Juco RB last season? Maybe that dude will carry the load.
Which brings up the need to clarify the question. Are we asking who the best WR in the Pac-10 is, or who will produce the most this year, or who has the best potential for the NFL...?

According to Riley, Moevao is still the starter for the Beavers. But that could change if Canfield can step up and come back strong from shoulder surgery or Moevao falters.

While they do lose some talent on offense, I'm not sure I expect them to take a step back when you consider they were missing their biggest play maker last year. Also, the QB play figures to improve over last year, with both Moevao and Canfield gaining experience and competing fiercely for the job. They also get outstanding OG Jeremy Perry back, who missed the majority of last season as well.

And call me crazy, but I don't think they miss anything with Ryan McCants in the backfield rather than Yvenson Bernard. Bernard was a horse, but IMO he was a bit overrated and is easily replaceable by a talent like McCants. A guy like that will gain 4+ypc behind that line, no question. Add in JC transfer Jeremy Francis and incoming speedster Jacquizz Rodgers, and I think they're actually much better off in the backfield than they were last year. And don't forget James Rodgers is a threat to take it to the house at any time as well.

I think Stroughter is likely to match his '06 production or perhaps even exceed it depending on how healthy he is and how well guys like Rodgers and Catchings can take the pressure off him. One thing's for sure, they will be calling his number often and they will be sending him deep. As long as he stays healthy, there's no reason to think he won't produce big.

I think the key to their offensive success is the health of their OL. They are tremendous on that left side with Perry and Levitre, but there are question marks elsewhere and the depth doesn't look all that great. If Perry or Levitre were to go down, this would be one of the worst OL's in the conference. It's imperative that they develop some of those younger guys so they can capitalize on the talent they have at some of the other positions. I guess we'll have to wait and see what they have there.

Overall, I think this Beaver offense is clearly more talented than last year's version. A lot of play makers flying under the radar right now in Corvallis. I think the talent they lost pales in comparison to that which replaces it.

duckseason
08-03-2008, 05:06 AM
Man I really can't single out one guy as being the best among all these talented WR's in the Pac-10. Maybe narrow the question a bit and I could pick a guy who's the best at this or the best at that, but there's just too many great WR's to pick just one and say he's the best.

If you ask me who I'd pick to have on my team for '08 if I could choose just one guy, well, I'd have to keep Jaison Williams. I know I've talked bad about him repeatedly on here, but nobody in the conference gets open as effortlessly and frequently as he does. He commands top coverage, beats it, and is great with the ball in his hands. There's a reason we kept throwing to him down after down even when he kept dropping pass after pass last season. He's always open! He's just so damn big and fast. Very physical. After having corrective surgery on his eyes, he's been doing great catching the ball in practice. Hopefully that carries over to the season. Given his level of dominance in other areas, I'm willing to gamble on his hands. This is the guy who is most likely to dominate and become the undisputed top WR in the conference this year, IMO. Until then, his nickname is still 50/50.

BRAVEHEART
08-03-2008, 01:42 PM
Which brings up the need to clarify the question. Are we asking who the best WR in the Pac-10 is, or who will produce the most this year, or who has the best potential for the NFL...?

According to Riley, Moevao is still the starter for the Beavers. But that could change if Canfield can step up and come back strong from shoulder surgery or Moevao falters.

While they do lose some talent on offense, I'm not sure I expect them to take a step back when you consider they were missing their biggest play maker last year. Also, the QB play figures to improve over last year, with both Moevao and Canfield gaining experience and competing fiercely for the job. They also get outstanding OG Jeremy Perry back, who missed the majority of last season as well.

And call me crazy, but I don't think they miss anything with Ryan McCants in the backfield rather than Yvenson Bernard. Bernard was a horse, but IMO he was a bit overrated and is easily replaceable by a talent like McCants. A guy like that will gain 4+ypc behind that line, no question. Add in JC transfer Jeremy Francis and incoming speedster Jacquizz Rodgers, and I think they're actually much better off in the backfield than they were last year. And don't forget James Rodgers is a threat to take it to the house at any time as well.

I think Stroughter is likely to match his '06 production or perhaps even exceed it depending on how healthy he is and how well guys like Rodgers and Catchings can take the pressure off him. One thing's for sure, they will be calling his number often and they will be sending him deep. As long as he stays healthy, there's no reason to think he won't produce big.

I think the key to their offensive success is the health of their OL. They are tremendous on that left side with Perry and Levitre, but there are question marks elsewhere and the depth doesn't look all that great. If Perry or Levitre were to go down, this would be one of the worst OL's in the conference. It's imperative that they develop some of those younger guys so they can capitalize on the talent they have at some of the other positions. I guess we'll have to wait and see what they have there.

Overall, I think this Beaver offense is clearly more talented than last year's version. A lot of play makers flying under the radar right now in Corvallis. I think the talent they lost pales in comparison to that which replaces it.

Here, then I'll split up the questions.

1. Who has the most draft stock (as of right now)?
2. Who is the best based off of production?
3. Who will have the best (upcoming) season?

duckseason
08-04-2008, 04:55 PM
Here, then I'll split up the questions.

1. Who has the most draft stock (as of right now)?

I think the widely held opinion is that Williams is currently the highest rated Pac-10 WR for the '09 draft.

2. Who is the best based off of production?

Mike Thomas.

3. Who will have the best (upcoming) season?

Production-wise, the favorite would be Mike Thomas.

Brandon Gibson, Jaison Williams, and Sammie Stroughter are all likely to post huge numbers as well.

Darkhorse: Jeremy Ross, Cal

SC and ASU will spread the ball around too much for one guy to post giant numbers, but they both have multiple guys who would excel with more opportunities.

duckseason
08-04-2008, 05:02 PM
To back my earlier point about Williams being likely to improve with catching the ball, Bellotti said today that Williams showed "a 14% improvement in his visual acuity" through testing.

Also, highly rated freshman center Hamani Stevens has been moved to DT for now. I'd imagine that's a depth move and he will end up back at center.

BRAVEHEART
08-04-2008, 07:50 PM
Since your a duck fan, do you have any info on how Jamere Holland is doin? He's one of the fastest players in the PAC (probably fastest). What's his role on the team, and how do you think he'll be used (this year and next).

duckseason
08-04-2008, 10:13 PM
Since your a duck fan, do you have any info on how Jamere Holland is doin? He's one of the fastest players in the PAC (probably fastest). What's his role on the team, and how do you think he'll be used (this year and next).
Everything I've heard about Holland this offseason has been positive. It didn't take him long to pass Drew Davis on the depth chart, and heading into fall camp, he's the starter opposite Jaison Williams, with Jeff Maehl in the slot.

I'm real excited about Holland because we really haven't had a burner for the past few years, and this guy's got more than just elite speed. He and Jaison should complement each other perfectly.

In addition to being our primary deep threat, look for Holland to be used frequently on reverses and fake/double reverses.

Such as this one in the spring game-

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1650/img4001nv3.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/8273/img4006ze6.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5307/img4009kf3.jpg

We're not yet set on our returners, but Holland has been fielding kicks in practices, along with many others.

Fielding a punt in the spring game-

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3021/img3943el6.jpg

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/3725/img3939yu3.jpg

duckseason
08-04-2008, 11:12 PM
Apparently freshman QB Chris Harper's throwing shoulder has been bothering him since spring and it flared up today at practice. No word yet on just what the problem is.

BRAVEHEART
08-04-2008, 11:13 PM
Yeah, besides for Malcolm Smith (Steve Smith's lil brother) jamere has been the most impressive HS player I've seen in person. But the thing that should scare UO fans is..."will his body hold-up...can he become a complete WR?". He's got Moss like speed, but you and I know he lacks some "skill". I don't think it'll be a big problem, but I bet there'll be times that he'll leave you scratching your head.

I would'nt be surprised if he becomes the star for you guys. He compares well to Ginn jr...but Ted was way "Tougher".

duckseason
08-05-2008, 12:03 AM
An article on Harper's shoulder. (http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2008/08/harpers_shoulder_injury_a_conc.html)

duckseason
08-05-2008, 12:23 AM
Here's a video (http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1407952690/bctid1711761890) with interviews of both Hamani Stevens and JC LB Tyrell Irvin.

Apparently, it was Stevens who approached Bellotti about the switch to defense. Interesting to see that he really, really wants to stay there.

504 to ATL
08-06-2008, 05:21 AM
http://withleather.uproxx.com/post.phtml?pk=6519

Punisher
08-06-2008, 11:15 AM
http://withleather.uproxx.com/post.phtml?pk=6519

Don't be fooled, Rey Rey will still kill your teams QB.

Turtlepower
08-06-2008, 11:49 AM
http://withleather.uproxx.com/post.phtml?pk=6519

Stop being a damn troll in this thread.

BRAVEHEART
08-06-2008, 01:12 PM
I can't see the link, but something tells me it's the pics of Rey wearing a pink thong in practice...jah?

Punisher
08-06-2008, 01:19 PM
I can't see the link, but something tells me it's the pics of Rey wearing a pink thong in practice...jah?

To that extent, yes. Nail on the head.

duckseason
08-07-2008, 04:10 AM
Our new video board in action (http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1407952690/bctid1715729037)

BRAVEHEART
08-07-2008, 03:34 PM
Looks nice, seems very clear.

iworshipbender
08-08-2008, 02:22 AM
Woo, got my season tickets today! Can't wait until the 30th to kick some fusky ass.

duckseason
08-08-2008, 04:20 PM
Locker hurt his hamstring. (http://washington.scout.com/2/777240.html)

Hopefully it doesn't keep him out too long. He needs all the reps he can get.

BRAVEHEART
08-08-2008, 04:31 PM
Locker hurt his hamstring. (http://washington.scout.com/2/777240.html)

Hopefully it doesn't keep him out too long. He needs all the reps he can get.

Co-sign, I'm rooting for the huskys and tye..so Locker needs to stay healthy.

duckseason
08-08-2008, 04:37 PM
Co-sign, I'm rooting for the huskys and tye..so Locker needs to stay healthy.
Yeah I'm definitely not rooting for UW, but I hate to see players miss time due to injury. I want everybody to be able to field their best team. And despite how much I hate the Huskies, I have to admit Locker is fun to watch. I want to see what he can do against our defense this year.

duckseason
08-08-2008, 04:48 PM
A good article on the proliferation and effects of the high-tempo offense. (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview08/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=3524989&campaign=rss&source=NCFHeadlines)

BRAVEHEART
08-08-2008, 04:59 PM
Yeah I'm definitely not rooting for UW, but I hate to see players miss time due to injury. I want everybody to be able to field their best team. And despite how much I hate the Huskies, I have to admit Locker is fun to watch. I want to see what he can do against our defense this year.

Let me rephrase that. I'm rooting more for tye and not exactly the school/progra m of UW. If UW does good then Tye will do good, that's how I see it.

iworshipbender
08-08-2008, 05:31 PM
Personally, I wouldn't mind if Washingdump loses their only offensive weapon for this game. Although it would be fun watching Nick Reed chasing him all over the field all game.

Turtlepower
08-08-2008, 05:36 PM
Personally, I wouldn't mind if Washingdump loses their only offensive weapon for this game. Although it would be fun watching Nick Reed chasing him all over the field all game.

Washingdump may be the dumbest insult to a name ever...

iworshipbender
08-08-2008, 05:42 PM
Meh, I've used it since I was in middle school. Old habits die hard.

duckseason
08-08-2008, 06:53 PM
Mark Sanchez was carted off the practice field today with a knee injury (http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-usc9-2008aug09,0,1363695.story)

StrongSide97
08-08-2008, 08:05 PM
Mark Sanchez was carted off the practice field today with a knee injury (http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-usc9-2008aug09,0,1363695.story)


He was carted off the field with a knee injury...before doing stretches!

Oh, this is too good!

BRAVEHEART
08-08-2008, 08:40 PM
Luckily we have insurance.


http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/scorecard/02/08/truth.rumors.college/p1_mustain.jpg

Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.;)

But seriously, They said Mark should be back in four weeks.

slightlyaraiderfan
08-08-2008, 09:33 PM
Dislocated knee, but theres no ligament damage.

4-6 weeks, still terrible.

iworshipbender
08-09-2008, 12:24 AM
Dislocated knee, but theres no ligament damage.

4-6 weeks, still terrible.

I wonder if it's the whole knee, or the kneecap... I've dislocated both of my kneecaps and it's some painful ****.

BRAVEHEART
08-09-2008, 03:41 AM
I wonder if it's the whole knee, or the kneecap... I've dislocated both of my kneecaps and it's some painful ****.

It's just one Kneecap.

iworshipbender
08-09-2008, 03:47 AM
Yeah, I know it's just one knee. I was wondering if it was his whole knee, and I was relating personal experience having dislocated both of my kneecaps.

BRAVEHEART
08-09-2008, 05:14 AM
Yeah, I know it's just one knee. I was wondering if it was his whole knee, and I was relating personal experience having dislocated both of my kneecaps.

From what I heard it's just how I typed it, one kneecap.

iworshipbender
08-09-2008, 05:34 AM
From what I heard it's just how I typed it, one kneecap.

My first response was to SARF, but I see where our messages got mixed up. I guess I should have thanked you for letting me know that it was the kneecap and not the entire knee.

BRAVEHEART
08-09-2008, 05:43 AM
My first response was to SARF, but I see where our messages got mixed up. I guess I should have thanked you for letting me know that it was the kneecap and not the entire knee.

Not really, I'm just spreadin info....no need to thank me. ;-)

duckseason
08-15-2008, 04:43 AM
Sounds like Terrence Scott has passed Jamere Holland for now at the Z spot.

It's been a combination of Scott stepping up big in practice and Holland sitting out after surgery. In the end, I expect both to get plenty of PT and make a big impact.

On a side note, I just put down $440 to win $400 on Oregon -6.5 vs Boise State on 9/20, and $60 to win $6,000 on Oregon winning the BCS title at 100/1. Great numbers on both those bets. The Boise line is damn near free money, and there's no way in hell I can pass on those championship odds when I know damn well the Ducks have a legit shot.

BRAVEHEART
08-15-2008, 04:53 AM
Sounds like Terrence Scott has passed Jamere Holland for now at the Z spot.

It's been a combination of Scott stepping up big in practice and Holland sitting out after surgery. In the end, I expect both to get plenty of PT and make a big impact.

On a side note, I just put down $440 to win $400 on Oregon -6.5 vs Boise State on 9/20, and $60 to win $6,000 on Oregon winning the BCS title at 100/1. Great numbers on both those bets. The Boise line is damn near free money, and there's no way in hell I can pass on those championship odds when I know damn well the Ducks have a legit shot.

They might as well give you the money for the boise game. If Holland is fully healthy I see no reason why he should'nt be the starting receiver in eugene.

iworshipbender
08-15-2008, 05:03 AM
Sounds like Terrence Scott has passed Jamere Holland for now at the Z spot.

It's been a combination of Scott stepping up big in practice and Holland sitting out after surgery. In the end, I expect both to get plenty of PT and make a big impact.

On a side note, I just put down $440 to win $400 on Oregon -6.5 vs Boise State on 9/20, and $60 to win $6,000 on Oregon winning the BCS title at 100/1. Great numbers on both those bets. The Boise line is damn near free money, and there's no way in hell I can pass on those championship odds when I know damn well the Ducks have a legit shot.

Holy ****, you just made me realize I can now legally gamble. I'm going to put down $20 on those 100/1 odds. Where do I sign up?

duckseason
08-15-2008, 05:29 AM
Holy ****, you just made me realize I can now legally gamble. I'm going to put down $20 on those 100/1 odds. Where do I sign up?
I use http://sportsbook.com/

Yeah, every duck fan should put at least 10 bucks on those odds. We all know it's a long shot with that schedule, but c'mon, that's 100 bucks for every dollar you put down. It'll make it that much sweeter if we have that dream season. 10 dollars is like a quarter cup of premium.

From as objective a perspective as I'm capable of, I see no other team with a better number. I mean, Penn freaking state is 40 to 1. Notre Dame is 75 to 1. I don't see another 100 to 1 team that I really think has a legit shot other than Illinois.

duckseason
08-15-2008, 05:44 AM
They might as well give you the money for the boise game. If Holland is fully healthy I see no reason why he should'nt be the starting receiver in eugene.
Well Holland is practicing at full speed now (and doing well, reportedly) but Scott really has stepped up big. With a guy like Holland who hasn't played, those reps are vital. I'm rooting for Holland to be out there as much as possible, but Scott figures to play a big role regardless. It says a lot about Holland that he had a hold on the job in the first place, but there are several others who are pushing hard for big PT. It won't take a very big step backward for our starting Z to get leaped.

iworshipbender
08-15-2008, 06:11 AM
I use http://sportsbook.com/

Yeah, every duck fan should put at least 10 bucks on those odds. We all know it's a long shot with that schedule, but c'mon, that's 100 bucks for every dollar you put down. It'll make it that much sweeter if we have that dream season. 10 dollars is like a quarter cup of premium.

From as objective a perspective as I'm capable of, I see no other team with a better number. I mean, Penn freaking state is 40 to 1. Notre Dame is 75 to 1. I don't see another 100 to 1 team that I really think has a legit shot other than Illinois.

To be honest, I'm not buying all of the ASU hype, I think they'll go 9-3 at best. The only question marks on the schedule is USC, OSU and maybe Purdue because it's so early in the year. Well, also will the BCS screw us again if indeed the improbable happens?

duckseason
08-15-2008, 04:41 PM
To be honest, I'm not buying all of the ASU hype, I think they'll go 9-3 at best. The only question marks on the schedule is USC, OSU and maybe Purdue because it's so early in the year. Well, also will the BCS screw us again if indeed the improbable happens?
ASU will be tough. The entire Pac-10 will. I think we have a great shot at running the table, but we shouldn't overlook teams like Arizona, Cal, Stanford, UCLA and Arizona State. Hell, the trip to the Palouse is never a walk in the park, and Jake Locker alone makes Washington a threat. Though I think we can chalk up wins against those 2 right now. Washington is just too young and we get them so early.

Arizona State has big question marks on the O-line, but if they can shore that up a bit and/or Rudy gets into the habit of releasing the ball in a timely fashion rather than doing a Brian Leftwich impersonation out there, they could be a very dangerous team.

But I agree that we will likely be favored in every game other than SC and maybe ASU. It'll be a disappointing season if we lose more than 2 games. I fully expect this team to win 11 games. Outsiders can keep staring at the losses of Dixon and Stewart, and I'll keep smiling about how this team is better at most positions than we were last year, including RB.

duckseason
08-15-2008, 04:44 PM
An article on Terence Scott (http://www.oregonlive.com/ducksfootball/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/1218765334146330.xml&coll=7&thispage=1) that illustrates what I was talking about earlier.

Turtlepower
08-15-2008, 04:59 PM
ASU will be tough. The entire Pac-10 will. I think we have a great shot at running the table, but we shouldn't overlook teams like Arizona, Cal, Stanford, UCLA and Arizona State. Hell, the trip to the Palouse is never a walk in the park, and Jake Locker alone makes Washington a threat. Though I think we can chalk up wins against those 2 right now. Washington is just too young and we get them so early.

Arizona State has big question marks on the O-line, but if they can shore that up a bit and/or Rudy gets into the habit of releasing the ball in a timely fashion rather than doing a Brian Leftwich impersonation out there, they could be a very dangerous team.

But I agree that we will likely be favored in every game other than SC and maybe ASU. It'll be a disappointing season if we lose more than 2 games. I fully expect this team to win 11 games. Outsiders can keep staring at the losses of Dixon and Stewart, and I'll keep smiling about how this team is better at most positions than we were last year, including RB.

I really don't see any team in the PAC-10 going undefeated. Every team has major question marks coming into this season. I do think that the o-line problems at ASU are being a bit overhyped, but we'll just see if that is true.

Also, I can't fathom how you can think that Oregon is a better team this year than last.

iworshipbender
08-15-2008, 10:26 PM
I really don't see any team in the PAC-10 going undefeated. Every team has major question marks coming into this season. I do think that the o-line problems at ASU are being a bit overhyped, but we'll just see if that is true.

Also, I can't fathom how you can think that Oregon is a better team this year than last.

There is only one big question mark for the ducks on offense and that's quarterback. Nate Costa would have been the backup to DD had he not torn his ACL in practice. The rest of the offense is great, the OL has Max Unger and Fenuki Tupou(who dominated George Selvie in the Sun Bowl.) The WRs go five deep with players who can produce on a consistent basis and a potental star in Jaison Williams. The RBs will be good too, JJ and Blount will allow Oregon to take the Pac-10 rushing title again.

Oregon also returns the Pac-10's best secondary, sack leader and the only real question mark is the defensive tackle position. But Havani Stevens has moved there and if JC Justin Thompson is eligible, he'll wreak havoc for opposing offenses.

BRAVEHEART
08-15-2008, 10:43 PM
There is only one big question mark for the ducks on offense and that's quarterback. Nate Costa would have been the backup to DD had he not torn his ACL in practice. The rest of the offense is great, the OL has Max Unger and Fenuki Tupou(who dominated George Selvie in the Sun Bowl.) The WRs go five deep with players who can produce on a consistent basis and a potental star in Jaison Williams. The RBs will be good too, JJ and Blount will allow Oregon to take the Pac-10 rushing title again.

Oregon also returns the Pac-10's best secondary, sack leader and the only real question mark is the defensive tackle position. But Havani Stevens has moved there and if JC Justin Thompson is eligible, he'll wreak havoc for opposing offenses.

Arguably the best Pac-10 secondary. ;)

duckseason
08-16-2008, 02:49 AM
I really don't see any team in the PAC-10 going undefeated. Every team has major question marks coming into this season. I do think that the o-line problems at ASU are being a bit overhyped, but we'll just see if that is true.

No question it will be extremely difficult for anybody to run the table in the Pac-10, but at the same time, nobody should be surprised if one of the front runners were to do so.

If you guys improve the play up front on offense, that team looks very dangerous. I'll have a lot more respect for them than I did last year. I'm not writing them off. From where I sit, it's a big question mark. Feel free to inform me of any drastic improvements you've seen this offseason. I heard that they've been working on getting the ball out of Carpenter's hands quicker, but I haven't heard much about the line.

If we don't see drastic improvement in pass-protection, the concerns are not over hyped, imo. With the WR's you guys got, that passing game could be deadly with better protection/release time.

Also, I can't fathom how you can think that Oregon is a better team this year than last.

That's because you're stuck on the loss of 2 players while ignoring all the returns and additions.

As of right now, there's no question in my mind that this team is better than the team that beat SC and ASU last year. I'll explain my reasoning if you like, or you can just wait and see for yourself. If you don't think we've reloaded, you don't know what's going on in Eugene.

SunDevil450
08-16-2008, 04:00 AM
The Ducks in my mind are a toss up with asu to finish behind sc in the pac 10. By no means have they fallen off bcs trail however you cant overlook the departure of Dixon and Stewart. I mean with dixon they had very good odds of making it to the championship. When he was injured they became a different team. I think its fair to say that they will have big holes to fill. Nevertheless the ducks are one of many teams in the pac10 that have a questions that need to be answered.

duckseason
08-16-2008, 05:47 AM
The Ducks in my mind are a toss up with asu to finish behind sc in the pac 10. By no means have they fallen off bcs trail however you cant overlook the departure of Dixon and Stewart. I mean with dixon they had very good odds of making it to the championship. When he was injured they became a different team. I think its fair to say that they will have big holes to fill. Nevertheless the ducks are one of many teams in the pac10 that have a questions that need to be answered.
No question Dixon and Stewart were great players for us, but what's being overlooked here is the team we bring to the field this year. Too often, people are blinded by the big names. "This team lost so-and-so and therefore they are X much worse than last year."

That's not how it works.

In order to accurately assess the strength of a football team, you must evaluate the team that will actually be on the field. Of course you should take a look at who's gone from a year ago, but it's even more important to take a close look at who replaces them. This is the part that many people forget to do. Out of sight, out of mind. There aren't yet images of Nate Costa and Chris Harper gashing defenses on the ground like Dixon did.

Nathan Costa is just as intelligent, and a more accurate passer than Dixon. Dixon is faster, Costa is quicker. Costa has the advantage of an extra year under Kelly, Dixon had more in-game experience. Like Dixon, Costa is a great fit for this offense, and the coaches love him. He's been proving himself for three years here. Just because the nation doesn't know it yet doesn't mean it hasn't been happening.

Chris Harper is a better rusher than Dixon.

Chip Kelly is still here.

We will be fine at QB. It's tough to play better than Dixon did for us last year, but I'm confident the transition will be very smooth.

Jeremiah Johnson is arguably a better fit for our offense than Stewart. All along, Bellotti refused to say one was better than the other. Stats reflect this, and more importantly, so does the tape. Johnson tore his ACL mid-season.

With Johnson back, and Legarrette Blount (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3371812) replacing Stewart, I feel better about the RB position than I did for the majority of last season.

If we were replacing Dixon with Cody Kempt, and Stewart with Remene Alston, I'd be concerned about the loss of our departed stars. As it is, I see us as being stronger at RB and I feel confident about the QB position.

More important than the loss of Dixon and Stewart, will be the loss of Autzen in all those big games. That can't be replaced.

I'm not trying to prove to you guys that we are a better team this year; I'm informing you. Take that however you choose. We have a defense, too. WR's and TE's and O-linemen. This year's team is better, health permitting.

duckseason
08-21-2008, 05:56 PM
Nate Costa injured the same knee as last year at practice last night. He continued playing without telling anybody, and the severity is unknown. He's undergoing tests and we probably won't hear of the results until Sunday or Monday.

http://ducksattack.com/?p=197

soybean
08-22-2008, 02:09 AM
dang joe mcknight threw a punch at vidal hazelton AND luther brown now.

BRAVEHEART
08-22-2008, 04:25 AM
dang joe mcknight threw a punch at vidal hazelton AND luther brown now.

WTF?

Where did that come from?

duckseason
08-25-2008, 07:35 PM
Costa needs surgery and will be out 8-10 weeks.

Justin Roper will start against Washington, but look for Chris Harper to see the field and Jeremiah Masoli to make a strong push for the starting job.

Also, LB Kevin Garrett has been kicked off the team.

BRAVEHEART
08-25-2008, 07:50 PM
Costa needs surgery and will be out 8-10 weeks.

Justin Roper will start against Washington, but look for Chris Harper to see the field and Jeremiah Masoli to make a strong push for the starting job.

Also, LB Kevin Garrett has been kicked off the team.

Is that a big blow...or not really?

duckseason
08-25-2008, 08:09 PM
Is that a big blow...or not really?

In my mind, it's huge. Costa was neck and neck with Dixon heading into last season, according to Chip Kelly. With him, I think the transition would be seamless.

With Roper, it sounds like he's ready to start. He's been playing well in scrimmages. He probably throws a better deep ball than Costa, but isn't as accurate or quick, and doesn't have as much experience. He's also more careless with the ball. Costa was a much better fit for our offense, and so is Masoli. Masoli is very similar to Costa. Having Roper out there limits our running game and basically changes the face of our offense. We'll have to adapt.

But really, you can hand the keys to this car to just about anybody and it would be tough to crash it. Roper really is a good QB with a lot of upside. It's not that I don't like him, it's that I really loved Costa. With the amount of talent we have at the position, we'll be fine.

iworshipbender
08-25-2008, 09:30 PM
God I love that video clip of Kenny Wheaton.

duckseason
08-26-2008, 11:09 AM
Looks like Justin Thompson finally got cleared to play-

http://oregon.rivals.com/default.asp?SR=RivalsFP

This is great news. I was beginning to wonder if we'd even get him this year. Now we just need to get him up to speed and ready to go so he'll be ready for the meat of the conference schedule.

iworshipbender
08-26-2008, 05:20 PM
Looks like Justin Thompson finally got cleared to play-

http://oregon.rivals.com/default.asp?SR=RivalsFP

This is great news. I was beginning to wonder if we'd even get him this year. Now we just need to get him up to speed and ready to go so he'll be ready for the meat of the conference schedule.

Woo hoo! Hopefully he'll be ready for USC.

iworshipbender
08-28-2008, 05:47 PM
Well, Costa's officially done for the year.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gbSz5jRf45s_rzkx63gPk9lSbRxAD92RCLT8A
EUGENE, Ore. (AP) — Oregon quarterback Nate Costa will be out for the season after surgeons repairing a torn meniscus in his left knee also found a torn anterior cruciate ligament.

The sophomore injured the knee in a noncontact drill in the week before the Wednesday surgery, which the team had hoped would allow him to play part of the season.

Costa also missed last season with a knee injury.

Justin Roper will start Saturday night for Oregon in its opener against Washington at Autzen Stadium.

Turtlepower
08-29-2008, 07:07 PM
I am rooting for a Washington upset of Oregon. I don't see it, but it will be awesome if it happens.

duckseason
08-30-2008, 08:28 AM
I am rooting for a Washington upset of Oregon. I don't see it, but it will be awesome if it happens.

This (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/pac10/2008-08-29-ariz-state-facility_N.htm) is what happens when you root against Oregon.

duckseason
08-30-2008, 10:43 AM
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2497/080829205652vq0.jpg

In remembrance of Todd Doxey. Wish he was here. Go Ducks.

Turtlepower
08-30-2008, 12:50 PM
This (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/pac10/2008-08-29-ariz-state-facility_N.htm) is what happens when you root against Oregon.

It was like a ****ing hurricane down here. It was scary as **** with hurricane force winds and hail. Everyone is joking about it, but it was scary as hell being in it.

SunDevil450
08-30-2008, 01:24 PM
It definitely was insane turtlepower to bad that 10 million dollar bubble we got this year is destroyed

iworshipbender
08-30-2008, 03:36 PM
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2497/080829205652vq0.jpg

In remembrance of Todd Doxey. Wish he was here. Go Ducks.

Can't wait for Patrick Chung to run out in Doxey's 29. It's going to be a beatdown today.

DragonFireKai
09-06-2008, 02:09 PM
Are the quacks seriously bringing back their vomit and ghost flames helmets? Do they have some sort of campaign against the Mormons? Exposing them to those helmets intentionally could be considered a hate crime.

duckseason
09-06-2008, 02:12 PM
Yeah I'm glad we brought out the grellow for USU. Hopefully it'll be their only appearance of the year. We're 0-2 in those damn things. I'm hoping we end up swapping them out for black.

BRAVEHEART
09-06-2008, 02:42 PM
God damn Beavs, should've had the sack!!!

BRAVEHEART
09-06-2008, 02:56 PM
At this rate the beavs are gonna be smashed.

Stash
09-06-2008, 09:21 PM
Cal really beat the **** outta WSU, 66-3. Best had a huge day with over 200 yds rushing and 3TD's. I actually felt bad for the Cougars.

slightlyaraiderfan
09-06-2008, 10:23 PM
Almost every player on Stanford might be a genius, but they are making some big time boneheaded plays.

DragonFireKai
09-07-2008, 02:58 AM
Washington got screwed. If BYU goes all Hawaii on us in a BCS bowl, we can point to that play as another instance of Pac 10 referees screwing things up monumentally.

YAYareaRB
09-07-2008, 12:15 PM
I'm so proud of my bro Mason Foster. He was all over the field yesterday. He's gonna be something special for the Dawgs for sure.

Babylon
09-07-2008, 12:40 PM
I'm so proud of my bro Mason Foster. He was all over the field yesterday. He's gonna be something special for the Dawgs for sure.


One of the few bright spots on that defense, going to be a good one.

Aftermath
09-13-2008, 12:49 PM
Goooooo Big O!

slightlyaraiderfan
09-13-2008, 02:06 PM
Good job Cal....

BRAVEHEART
09-13-2008, 02:37 PM
Yeah, Cal sure did shat the bed and did not represent as an elite pac-10 team. Maryland could barely beat div.2 Delaware, so (IMO) cal should've smashed.

slightlyaraiderfan
09-13-2008, 03:07 PM
WTF Oregon! Bad day for the Pac10, hopefully it's not a sign of things to come..

doingthisinsteadofwork
09-13-2008, 03:11 PM
Cal got raped by the refs going into halftime.

But yeah Cal looked asleep out there for most of the game.

jared
09-13-2008, 03:26 PM
Max Hall and Austin Collie are abusing the UCLA secondary.

jared
09-13-2008, 03:38 PM
Yeesh. They need to consider a mercy rule for UCLA.

slightlyaraiderfan
09-14-2008, 12:19 AM
After this weekend, hard to argue the "Pac-1" mess.

SuperKevin
09-14-2008, 01:37 AM
UCLA lost to BYU
Arizona lost to New Mexico
Stanford lost to TCU
Arizona State lost to UNLV

Mountain West owns the Pac 10

iworshipbender
09-14-2008, 02:04 AM
UCLA lost to BYU
Arizona lost to New Mexico
Stanford lost to TCU
Arizona State lost to UNLV

Mountain West owns the Pac 10

USC > OSU
Oregon > Purdue
Cal > MSU

Pac-10 owns the big 11

SuperKevin
09-14-2008, 02:07 AM
USC > OSU
Oregon > Purdue
Cal > MSU

Pac-10 owns the big 11

Still more embarrassing to get owned by the Mountain West like that

BRAVEHEART
09-14-2008, 02:12 AM
Still more embarrassing to get owned by the Mountain West like that

but to be owned by the conference that got owned by the other conference, that conference has to be really good, or the other conference is bad, but not as bad as the first conference that got owned by the other conference. In the end we don't know what conference is really better, because two conferences got owned. I don't even know what conference I'm talking about right now, and I don't think you know either.:p

iworshipbender
09-14-2008, 02:13 AM
Still more embarrassing to get owned by the Mountain West like that

Meh, they took care of the lower half of the conference. I'm not too worried

SuperKevin
09-14-2008, 02:14 AM
Meh, they took care of the lower half of the conference. I'm not too worried

15th ranked Arizona State is hardly in the lower half of the conference.

iworshipbender
09-14-2008, 02:23 AM
To be honest, I'm not buying all of the ASU hype, I think they'll go 9-3 at best.

According to me they are.

BRAVEHEART
09-14-2008, 02:27 AM
The only disappointments to me is Cal losing to Maryland and of course over hyped ASU vs Georgia.

D-Unit
09-14-2008, 03:06 AM
People are underrating the MWC this year. MWC champ will be in a BCS Bowl. Biggest game of the year for them is BYU vs Utah.

Pac 10 is all about USC. The rest of the conference is overrated.

BRAVEHEART
09-14-2008, 03:11 AM
People are underrating the MWC this year. MWC champ will be in a BCS Bowl. Biggest game of the year for them is BYU vs Utah.

Pac 10 is all about USC. The rest of the conference is overrated.

except for Oregon...but I'd have to agree today.

Bruce
09-14-2008, 11:23 AM
Gotta love that OOC schedule. Way better than every other conference fa sho'.

#15 Arizona State lost to the UNLV Rebels

#23 California lost to the Maryland Terrapins.

Arizona lost to the New Mexico Lobos.

UCLA lost to the BYU Cougars (0-59)

Washington lost to BYU

Stanford lost to the Texas Christian Horned Frogs.

Wash State lost to Okla St (13-39)

Wash State lost to Baylor (17-45)

Oregon State lost to Penn State (14-45)

Washington lost to Oklahoma (14-55)

Turtlepower
09-14-2008, 12:01 PM
I'm sorry PAC-10.

504 to ATL
09-14-2008, 02:58 PM
I'm sorry PAC-1.

Fixed it for you.

soybean
09-14-2008, 05:25 PM
i doubt it but, i hope ASU can redeem themselves and beat Georgia.

ps. that cal team did not look like themselves.

georgiafan
09-14-2008, 10:16 PM
When was the last time USC won the pac10 out right?

Turtlepower
09-14-2008, 10:19 PM
When was the last time USC won the pac10 out right?

2005 when they played Texas in the NC.

SunDevil450
09-15-2008, 01:35 AM
ASU losing to UNLV is inexcusable but i must give them credit for playing a pretty great game. I for one was disappointed with the asu crowd for having no factor in the game. I hope they can redeem themselves i definitely think they have the talent.

Cribbs>Hester
09-15-2008, 03:58 AM
Can any USC fans tell me more about Kyle Moore? I think I like him and Clay Matthews Jr. the best on that defense. I thought Moore looked a lot bigger than his 270 listed playing weight.

jnew76
09-15-2008, 04:02 AM
There is one team west of Texas that has a chance to win a National Championship in the next 10 years... It is sad, but true. USC gets everyone they want in California and take the best players from Arizona, Oregon, Washington, and then the cherry pick from Texas and Florida... No one west of Texas can compete with that until maybe Pete Carroll leaves.

BRAVEHEART
09-15-2008, 05:59 AM
Can any USC fans tell me more about Kyle Moore? I think I like him and Clay Matthews Jr. the best on that defense. I thought Moore looked a lot bigger than his 270 listed playing weight.

He could be 280...but who knows? As for Clay, I said his stock would be soaring and it'll only rise again once his combine numbers are out. I like Moore as person and locker room character, but he just hasn't really grown as a player. He has loads of the "P" word but rarely ever looks as good as he should be. He doesn't really beat the tackles around the edge, but he's pretty solid in the run and will pick up a coverage sack or two. last year he had two INT's in the beginning of the year, and is pretty aware when the ball is in the air and in his area. (IMO) He's Laurence Jackson with less burst, heart, pass rush moves, and motor (but with more height and potential). Unless he has some big numbers this year (doubt it) or post good numbers at the combine (doubt it) I see him going very late in the draft....but If he does have a good year, I could see him being picked in the second or third as potential 3-4 end (he has the frame to add enough weight). I think clay will be a popular prospect by the end of the year and is perfect as a 3-4 OLB. He is very similar to cush (could be faster), but doesn't have the all-around game that cush has. As you can already tell, he's fast and has a very high motor (doesn't give-up on plays either, plays like it's his last game).