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Rjspartan
04-29-2008, 11:12 AM
Feel free to post your outlook or comment on mine!


AFC


AFC EAST
New England(15-1)
Buffalo(10-6)
N.Y. Jets(7-9)
Miami(1-15)

AFC WEST
San Diego(11-5)
Denver(8-8)
Kansas City(5-11)
Oakland(5-11)

AFC NORTH
Pittsburgh(13-3)
Cleveland(8-8)
Cincinnati(4-12)
Baltimore(2-14)

AFC SOUTH
Jacksonville(13-3)
Indianapolis(12-4)
Tennessee(9-7)
Houston(8-8)


NFC


NFC EAST
Dallas(15-1)
Philadelphia(12-4)
N.Y. Giants(9-7)
Washington(5-11)

NFC WEST
Seattle(9-7)
St. Louis(6-10)
Arizona(4-12)
San Francisco(2-14)

NFC NOTH
Minnesota(9-7)
Green Bay(8-8)
Detroit(5-11)
Chicago(3-13)

NFC SOUTH
New Orleans(12-4)
Carolina(10-6)
Atlanta(9-7)
Tampa Bay(7-9)



PLAYOFFS


AFC NFC


1New England(15-1) 1Dallas(15-1)2Jacksonville(13-3) 2New Orleans(12-4)
3Pittsburgh(13-3) 3Minnesota(9-7)
4San Diego(11-5) 4Seattle(9-7)
5Indianapolis(12-4) 5Philadelphia(12-4)
6Buffalo(10-6) 6Carolina(10-6)



Buffalo(10-6) @ Pittsburgh(13-3) Carolina(10-6) @ Minnesota(9-7)
Indianapolis(12-4) @ San Diego(11-5) Philadelphia(12-4) @ Seattle(9-7)

Indianapolis(12-4) @ New England(15-1) Carolina(10-6) @ Dallas(15-1)
Pittsburgh(13-3) @ Jacksonville(13-3) Philadelphia(12-4) @ New Orleans(12-4)

Jacksonville(13-3) @ New England(15-1) Philadelphia(12-4) @ Dallas(15-1)

SUPERBOWL
Jacksonville(13-3) @ Philadelphia(12-4)





Jacksonville(13-3)
SUPERBOWL CHAMPS

Draft King
04-29-2008, 11:22 AM
New England won't go 15-1 again. Miami won't go 1-15 again. I see Atlanta around 6-10 to be honest.

bsaza2358
04-29-2008, 11:31 AM
Eagles in the Super Bowl? And this is prompted by a non Eagles fan? I am shocked and scared.

Gay Ork Wang
04-29-2008, 11:31 AM
i doubt:
a 3-13 Chicago Bears
15-1 Patriots
1-15 Miami
2-14 Frisco
2-14 Baltimore

I def could see:
10-6 Buffalo

bsaza2358
04-29-2008, 11:32 AM
Buffalo is gonna be pretty good this year. Baltimore has some QB issues, but they should be fine over the season. Frisco and Miami are pretty bad, but both could jump up a bit. Who knows what the Bears will do...

LonghornsLegend
04-29-2008, 11:36 AM
Miami is going to win at least 5 games, and I think they can push for 7...They are going to be able to run the ball, Brown was a beast last year without any line or weapons, if they rotate him properly the offense could put up some points...On defense they will be able to stop the run, and thats a good start to winning games.

Rjspartan
04-29-2008, 11:37 AM
Eagles in the Super Bowl? And this is prompted by a non Eagles fan? I am shocked and scared.
if they can stay healthy for most of the year and mcnabb has a good year watch out

bsaza2358
04-29-2008, 11:37 AM
Brown is coming off a serious knee surgery, and they traded Booker to the Eagles. I'm not certain that Ronnie will be so effective in 2008 that it automatically translates to 5-7 W's. I think they win 3-5.

bsaza2358
04-29-2008, 11:38 AM
if they can stay healthy for most of the year and mcnabb has a good year watch out

I'm a huge Eagles booster, but I like to stay realistic. I think this team has amazing defensive potential, and McNabb is not done. However, I am concerned about their lack of a true red zone threat and the healthy/longevity at OT with the aging Runyan/Thomas.

Rjspartan
04-29-2008, 11:39 AM
Brown is coming off a serious knee surgery, and they traded Booker to the Eagles. I'm not certain that Ronnie will be so effective in 2008 that it automatically translates to 5-7 W's. I think they win 3-5.

Ironically the only game they won in this thread was vs. baltimore

DiG
04-29-2008, 11:44 AM
5-11 for the skins? how do you figure?! 9-7 last year. we lost no one. we will finally have our full offensive line healthy. more aggressive offense...couple new receivers...

PoopSandwich
04-29-2008, 11:47 AM
Pittsburgh 13-3... Cleveland 8-8...

I really, really, really, really, really doubt that.

The division winner will have 10 wins, 11 max, and it will be a hell of alot closer than that.

bsaza2358
04-29-2008, 11:54 AM
Yeah, the AFC North is going to be a giant dogfight.

bsaza2358
04-29-2008, 11:59 AM
5-11 for the skins? how do you figure?! 9-7 last year. we lost no one. we will finally have our full offensive line healthy. more aggressive offense...couple new receivers...

Let's see: New coaching staff with a coach who was originally hired as an OC, then promoted after they didn't offer the job to at least 5 other more qualified candidates. They have a new offensive system that thrives on quick passes and the screen game. That is not what the current personnel was designed to do. Jason Campbell doesn't have a lightning quick release, and he has played tentatively at times. Who knows if Todd Collins will be the answer either?

Defensively, there is a new sheriff in town. While the personnel is good, the depth in the secondary is not good in my eyes, and the lead CB (Rogers) is coming off a serious knee injury. I also don't see the team being capable of generating a consistent enough pass rush to help out the secondary.

While I'm not sure they will go 5-11, it's not like everything is clear, bright, and sunny in DC right now.

fenikz
04-29-2008, 12:12 PM
How do the Cardinals go from 8-8 to 4-12 with one of the bests drafts?

CC.SD
04-29-2008, 12:16 PM
How many times do the Chargers have to dogfight it out with the Colts before people realize that it's not exactly a W written in stone for Indy?

Jughead10
04-29-2008, 12:47 PM
I was gonna say what makes people think Carolina is a good team and they won't continue to underachieve, even now that the roster is weaker than it was before when they were underchieving. Then I saw the sig of the person who started this thread.

21ST
04-29-2008, 12:57 PM
Let's see: New coaching staff with a coach who was originally hired as an OC, then promoted after they didn't offer the job to at least 5 other more qualified candidates. They have a new offensive system that thrives on quick passes and the screen game. That is not what the current personnel was designed to do. Jason Campbell doesn't have a lightning quick release, and he has played tentatively at times. Who knows if Todd Collins will be the answer either?

Defensively, there is a new sheriff in town. While the personnel is good, the depth in the secondary is not good in my eyes, and the lead CB (Rogers) is coming off a serious knee injury. I also don't see the team being capable of generating a consistent enough pass rush to help out the secondary.

While I'm not sure they will go 5-11, it's not like everything is clear, bright, and sunny in DC right now.

Campbell had his best season in a west-coast offense.

JagHombre22
04-29-2008, 12:59 PM
even though I see the Jaguars winning the Division, I really doubt they go 13-3 with one of the hardest schedules in the NFL...I see 11-5...it's funny though because I do see them going to the Superbowl...

Jughead10
04-29-2008, 01:02 PM
Let's see: New coaching staff with a coach who was originally hired as an OC, then promoted after they didn't offer the job to at least 5 other more qualified candidates. They have a new offensive system that thrives on quick passes and the screen game. That is not what the current personnel was designed to do. Jason Campbell doesn't have a lightning quick release, and he has played tentatively at times. Who knows if Todd Collins will be the answer either?

Defensively, there is a new sheriff in town. While the personnel is good, the depth in the secondary is not good in my eyes, and the lead CB (Rogers) is coming off a serious knee injury. I also don't see the team being capable of generating a consistent enough pass rush to help out the secondary.

While I'm not sure they will go 5-11, it's not like everything is clear, bright, and sunny in DC right now.

Have they done anything to improve their lines on both sides of the ball?

DiG
04-29-2008, 01:07 PM
Let's see: New coaching staff with a coach who was originally hired as an OC, then promoted after they didn't offer the job to at least 5 other more qualified candidates. They have a new offensive system that thrives on quick passes and the screen game. That is not what the current personnel was designed to do. Jason Campbell doesn't have a lightning quick release, and he has played tentatively at times. Who knows if Todd Collins will be the answer either?

Defensively, there is a new sheriff in town. While the personnel is good, the depth in the secondary is not good in my eyes, and the lead CB (Rogers) is coming off a serious knee injury. I also don't see the team being capable of generating a consistent enough pass rush to help out the secondary.

While I'm not sure they will go 5-11, it's not like everything is clear, bright, and sunny in DC right now.

moss and el are actually very good fits for the WCO. one of the biggest factors for wide receivers in the west coast offense is making plays after the catch. this is what moss and el do best. the 3 primary receivers in a WCO are the split end, flanker, and slot. moss and el are ideal for the flanker and slot positions and the only spot we really lacked going into this season was a good split end. this is where devin thomas will hopefully come in. he's the taller, possession style receiver who also thrives on making plays after the catch. campbell is the only player in the "personnel" where i would question if he is the right fit and we won't know that until he gets into the game. hes definitely got the mobility and football smarts to succeed in a WCO which are things that are harder to teach. the biggest thing he is going to need to work on is his 3 step drop quick release and he now has arguably the best qb coach for the wco in the nfl to help him.

i agree that rogers coming off injury is something of concern but we did finish 8th in the NFL last season with him not being there most of the year. so if he comes back healthy as expected then it would be an added bonus. im not going to sit here and say we are going to have the best pass rush in the nfl but it will be improved. carter was great all year and montgomery has only gotten better and better with the more playing time he has had. also chris wilson who had 3 sacks in the last 3 games of the year is expected to have a much larger role and hopefully add some value to the pass rush.

TheGreatEscape
04-29-2008, 01:15 PM
if they can stay healthy for most of the year and mcnabb has a good year watch out

If if's were fifths we'd all be f***** wasted

DiG
04-29-2008, 01:21 PM
Have they done anything to improve their lines on both sides of the ball?

the problems on the offensive line were due to injuries. jansen and randy thomas were out the entire year and are both fully healthy again. heyer got some good playing time and is now decent depth and we drafted rhinehart in the 3rd to add depth at both guard and tackle.

Pb&j
04-29-2008, 01:22 PM
So the browns go 10-6, with the 8th rated offense and the 30th rated defense. They hire a new, competent, defensive coordinator add 2 time pro bowl nose tackle, a very talented young defensive end (with working knees, mind you) a trio of young corners with another year of experience.

The already deadly receiving corps of Edwards, Winslow and Jerevicious is augmented with Donté Stallworth and Martin Rucker and add tremendous depth to a dominant offensive line. Both the Quarterback and the Offensive coordinator are entering the second year in the system and second year playing/calling plays. Even if anderson struggles we have Brady Quinn coming off of the bench, he was expected to be able to start last year.

You list them as 8-8.

The steelers ignore the offensive line, which was really bad last year even with faneca, and their defensive line gets older and is paper thin. They were so arrogant as to draft backup skill players and injured linebackers. The only offensive linemen they took was a fourth rounder... who also had an injury.

You list them as 13-3.

I am a bit confused.

bearsfan_51
04-29-2008, 01:24 PM
3-13? Get the **** out of here with that nonsense. I hope more people think we'll only win 3 games.

TheGreatEscape
04-29-2008, 01:25 PM
I don't buy Carolina having a better record than us. We've improved significantly on a team that won it all last year. While I doubt we repeat I do think we go to the playoffs for a fourth straight season. We're healthier on O, get kiwi back to help our pass rush and our secondary is a lot better. The run d really shouldn't be worse unless someone like AP goes down, although with Blackburn and Goff we have two instinctive thumpers backing him up.

Meanwhile I doubt Carolina's passing game and pass rush.

umphrey
04-29-2008, 01:28 PM
Lot of NFCN hate. How bad would the Packers have to screw up to only win 8 games next year? Only lost Favre, Rodgers AND Brohm would have to be horrible to cause us an extra 5 losses.

Bears are way better than 3 wins. Their defense gets them at least 6, I'd predict 8.

Vikings, 9-7 would be the low I think. Awesome DL and OL, most important parts of a team.

Lions 5 wins sounds good.

Jughead10
04-29-2008, 01:39 PM
the problems on the offensive line were due to injuries. jansen and randy thomas were out the entire year and are both fully healthy again. heyer got some good playing time and is now decent depth and we drafted rhinehart in the 3rd to add depth at both guard and tackle.

Can you expect Jansen to be healthy again? When was the last time he was healthy?

I liked what the Redskins did with the draft. Not so much about who they actually picked, but just the fact that they seemed committed to it, which is a change. However they failed to upgrade either side of the line. Which to me is going to continue to cost them.

bsaza2358
04-29-2008, 01:41 PM
The Bears are in flux. They could be bad, but they could be decent. I don't think they're a great playoffs candidate this year.

TheGreatEscape
04-29-2008, 01:54 PM
The Bears are in flux. They could be bad, but they could be decent. I don't think they're a great playoffs candidate this year.

I've got the bears around .500 with healthy as the largest variable. They're defense looks healthy and good and the oline is significantly better. With a tandem at RB again, letting wolfe play a smaller role as playmaker.

bored of education
04-29-2008, 02:02 PM
Chiefs 19-0! BEST TEAM EVER. BRODIE CROYLEZ is GOD!

DiG
04-29-2008, 02:14 PM
Can you expect Jansen to be healthy again? When was the last time he was healthy?

I liked what the Redskins did with the draft. Not so much about who they actually picked, but just the fact that they seemed committed to it, which is a change. However they failed to upgrade either side of the line. Which to me is going to continue to cost them.

health of two starters and drafting rhinehart is not upgrading? interesting....

Jughead10
04-29-2008, 02:17 PM
health of two starters and drafting rhinehart is not upgrading? interesting....

I was talking more about the defensive line, but no I don't consider a 1-AA player an immediate upgrade.

bsaza2358
04-29-2008, 02:19 PM
Redskins will continue to struggle to get pass rush pressure without blitzing in 2008. That is a real concern.

DeathbyStat
04-29-2008, 02:58 PM
AFC


AFC EAST
1.New England
2.Buffalo
3.N.Y. Jets
4.Miami

AFC WEST
1.San Diego
2.Oakland
3.Denver
4.Kansas City


AFC NORTH
1.Cleveland
2.Pittsburgh
3.Cincinnati
4.Baltimore

AFC SOUTH
1.Jacksonville
2.Indianapolis
3.Tennessee
4.Houston


NFC


NFC EAST
1.Dallas
2.Philadelphia
3.N.Y. Giants
4.Washington

NFC WEST
1.St. Louis
2.Seattle
3.Arizona
4.San Francisco

NFC NOTH
1.Minnesota
2.Green Bay
3.Detroit
4.Chicago

NFC SOUTH
1.New Orleans
2.Carolina
3.Tampa Bay
4.Atlanta





PLAYOFFS


AFC
NFC


1San Diego
1Dallas
2New England
2Minnesota
3Jacksonville
3New Orleans
4 Cleveland
4St Louis
5Indianapolis
5Seattle
6Tennessee
6Carolina



Tennesee @ Jacksonville
Carolina @ New Orleans
Indianapolis @ Cleveland
Seattle @ St. Louis

Indianapolis@ San Diego
Seattle@ Dallas
Jacksonville@New England
NewOrleans@ Minnesota

New England @ San Diego
Minnesota @ Dallas


SUPERBOWL


San Diego @ Dallas





Dallas


SUPERBOWL CHAMPS

DiG
04-29-2008, 02:59 PM
I was talking more about the defensive line, but no I don't consider a 1-AA player an immediate upgrade.

i consider the health the major upgrade rather than rhinehart. i like having a guy with rhineharts versatility for depth but the health is what we really need. as for defense time will tell but andre carter really looked good this past year and like i already mentioned chris wilson who had 3 sacks in the last 3 games will have a bigger role in pass rushing situations. you also have to consider that marcus washington is our best blitzer and he was out 5 games last year on injury as well. and even when he was back healthy his blitzing role was minimized once mcintosh got hurt.

619
04-29-2008, 03:24 PM
I don't have very high expectations for the Raiders this upcoming season but I can assure you we will surpass the 5-win total you got there.

BufFan71
04-29-2008, 05:43 PM
How do the Cardinals go from 8-8 to 4-12 with one of the bests drafts?

draft a HUGE project DRC in the 1st...i dont see how he even helps the team this year

Calais campbell, hes slow, tall, overweight,




we mustve been watchin different drafts if u think ARiz. had one of the bests




though i do think they go around 8-8 again...

BaLLiN
04-29-2008, 05:45 PM
NFC EAST
Dallas(15-1)
Philadelphia(12-4)
N.Y. Giants(9-7)
Washington(5-11)

Umm try more like

Dallas- 12-4
Philly- 9-7
Giants- 9-7
Redskins- 7-9

its much more competitive then you think, Dallas could really lose to Washington and most people wouldnt be that surprised.

neko4
04-29-2008, 05:55 PM
Green Bay 8-8? Im tired of everyone doing this to us. And i also agree with BF51

LonghornsLegend
04-29-2008, 06:06 PM
Arizona doesn't even know what their qb situation is like, all signs lead to them rotating QB's all year with Edge one year older, I don't know why you would even think they should be labeled to win more then 8 games.

bearsfan_51
04-29-2008, 06:07 PM
I'm not saying we're going to take the NFL by storm, but I think 6 wins is probably our basement, 10 is probably our ceiling.

3-13 is reserved for teams that just flat out don't have that much talent, we're still a pretty strong team at certain areas.

UKfan
04-29-2008, 06:12 PM
God I love how every single one of these has the Jags winning the South. They could well do it, but no one thinks that Indy will do it, really? Meh, let us be underdogs for a change...

bam bam
04-29-2008, 06:18 PM
Baltimore 2-14?

No. 8-8. Write it down Sally.

ninerfan
04-29-2008, 06:33 PM
9ers 2 - 14 ? Best guess 9 - 7 and gimme some of what ever your snorting

kiranadwaney
04-29-2008, 06:41 PM
i doubt that the falcons go 9-7. That would be amazing. I think we win between 4-6 games next year. Its a very young team which is in a rebuilding stage. Look at our secondary teams will be able to pass on us all day long.

Bucimal Island
05-01-2008, 11:00 AM
The Bucs finishing last???
Behind Atlanta and Carolina???

We have an easy schedule and we are much better team than last year. Wait you must hate the bucs. I see.

bsaza2358
05-01-2008, 11:12 AM
The Bucs could be good, but I have questions about their offense.

bantx
05-01-2008, 11:12 AM
AFC


AFC EAST
1.New England
2.Buffalo
3.N.Y. Jets
4.Miami

AFC WEST
1.San Diego
2.Oakland
3.Denver
4.Kansas City


AFC NORTH
1.Cleveland
2.Pittsburgh
3.Cincinnati
4.Baltimore

AFC SOUTH
1.Jacksonville
2.Indianapolis
3.Tennessee
4.Houston


NFC


NFC EAST
1.Dallas
2.Philadelphia
3.N.Y. Giants
4.Washington

NFC WEST
1.St. Louis
2.Seattle
3.Arizona
4.San Francisco

NFC NOTH
1.Minnesota
2.Green Bay
3.Detroit
4.Chicago

NFC SOUTH
1.New Orleans
2.Carolina
3.Tampa Bay
4.Atlanta





PLAYOFFS


AFC
NFC


1San Diego
1Dallas
2New England
2Minnesota
3Jacksonville
3New Orleans
4 Cleveland
4St Louis
5Indianapolis
5Seattle
6Tennessee
6Carolina



Tennesee @ Jacksonville
Carolina @ New Orleans
Indianapolis @ Cleveland
Seattle @ St. Louis

Indianapolis@ San Diego
Seattle@ Dallas
Jacksonville@New England
NewOrleans@ Minnesota

New England @ San Diego
Minnesota @ Dallas


SUPERBOWL


San Diego @ Dallas





Dallas


SUPERBOWL CHAMPS

Id like it if San Diego won it instead :]

WMD
05-01-2008, 11:26 AM
Baltimore 2-14?

No. 8-8. Write it down Sally.

I think Baltimore will be closer to 2-14 than 8-8.

Sniper
05-01-2008, 11:38 AM
Dallas


SUPERBOWL CHAMPS

I'll be impressed if Romo finds his way out of the first round.

CC.SD
05-01-2008, 12:22 PM
Lot of NFCN hate. How bad would the Packers have to screw up to only win 8 games next year? Only lost Favre, Rodgers AND Brohm would have to be horrible to cause us an extra 5 losses.



Only? How soon they forget.

kmartin575
05-01-2008, 01:10 PM
Miami is going to win at least 5 games, and I think they can push for 7...They are going to be able to run the ball, Brown was a beast last year without any line or weapons, if they rotate him properly the offense could put up some points...On defense they will be able to stop the run, and thats a good start to winning games.

Why is it such a guarantee they will be able to stop the run? They were dead last in the NFL against the run last year. Granted they have added some players on defense but there is no guarantee on how much they will improve.

Gay Ork Wang
05-01-2008, 01:41 PM
Only? How soon they forget.


U know, for some guys it was the system ;)

I just think its funny how everyone thinks the bad ones last year are going to be the bad ones the following year. And thats not the case. Thats why football is so awesome