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49ersfan_87
05-05-2008, 10:30 PM
What are some players that your team either missed by a few picks that you would have liked, or passed on that you would rather have?

The 49ers just missed out on Beau Bell in the 4th. He went at 104 to the Browns and the 49ers picked at 107. I like who the 49ers picked (Cody Wallace) so it isnt a huge loss really, but i would have liked Bell as well as he would be a solid TED ILB prospect next to Willis. The Browns traded up too and if they didnt i think there was a good chance Bell may have been a niner.

The 49ers also missed out on Barry Richardson in the 6th. He went at 170 and the 49ers picked Josh Morgan at 174. Richardson is a nice OT/OG prospect and i wouldnt have minded picking him if he was there.

As well, in the 6th round, the 49ers passed up Ahtyba Rubin. I thought he was a solid NT prospect and he could have added more depth to the DL and been great value in the 6th. Instead he went to the Browns 16 picks later at 190.

toonsterwu
05-05-2008, 10:40 PM
The interesting note on Rubin is that there was supposedly some specific issue that led him to drop. I'm not sure what it is, but I've seen it get mentioned a couple times now.

As for the Bears, hmm ... no names that stand out that much for me in regards to guys that I really would've liked. But I've got to take a look at that again.

Hwoarang
05-05-2008, 10:44 PM
The Cincinnati Safety. Can't begin to spell his name but the Ravens grabbed him in the 6th.

Past drafts we could have had Shockey..And Jason Witten..

Don Vito
05-05-2008, 10:49 PM
The Pats wanted Zack Bowman in the fifth, but the Bears got him first.

Instead we took UCLA specialist Matt Slater. He looks to be a return man, gunner, and kick coverage guy; but he played WR and DB at UCLA too.

Yung Flippa
05-05-2008, 10:51 PM
The Cincinnati Safety. Can't begin to spell his name but the Ravens grabbed him in the 6th.

Past drafts we could have had Shockey..And Jason Witten..

Haruki Nakamura, yeah, he looks like a pure football player. Glad we picked him up.
The Ravens passed on Erin Henderson and took Allen Patrick instead. Not sure the reason why we picked Patrick, we've gotten enough running backs. (Willis, Ray Rice, Pj Daniels, Cory Ross and maybe Musa Smith if he can't find a job)

Strongside
05-05-2008, 10:52 PM
Jacksonville traded up a spot ahead of us for Quentin Groves. Not sure who we would have taken if Sweed and Groves were both available.

regoob2
05-05-2008, 11:06 PM
Not this draft but I loved ronnie brown and breylon edwards. :(

doingthisinsteadofwork
05-05-2008, 11:10 PM
The Raiders didnt miss out on anybody.They just passed on some guys for players they didnt need.

WMD
05-05-2008, 11:22 PM
Jerod Mayo went #10 to the Pats when he would've went, at the latest, #15 to the Lions.

Also, Matt Forte went #44 to the Bears, and I believe the Lions were pretty high on him and were probably going to pick him at #45. Instead, we picked Jordon "Special Teams Captain" Dizon.

LonghornsLegend
05-05-2008, 11:25 PM
We missed out on Red Bryant in the 4th, by one pick, I can't know for sure if we take him or not but he had to be on our board, and when he was gone I think we gave up on NT all together, I still would of liked to see what direction we went if he was there because I think we would lean Bryant over Choice.

Geo
05-05-2008, 11:31 PM
I'm surprised Wallace was drafted so high. Maybe the 49ers missed how used and abused he was at the Senior Bowl, which they use to take prospects.

The Colts were going to draft Maurice Drew in 2006, but Jacksonville took him two picks earlier.

CC.SD
05-05-2008, 11:40 PM
I wanted Kenny Phillips, and AJ Smith passed on him. He has more faith in Clinton Hart than I do; can't complain about Antoine Cason though.

kmartin575
05-05-2008, 11:43 PM
I wanted Virginia Tech DE Chris Ellis in the 3rd but Buffalo took him. But I can't complain about taking Jamaal Charles. He is going to be an amazing Lighting to Larry Johnson's Thunder.

zoinks
05-05-2008, 11:44 PM
Titans supposedly had Felix Jones slightly ahead of Chris Johnson on their board, but Dalllas grabbed him two picks before the Titans were up.

There's also talk that they were targeting Limas Sweed in round 2, but he went to the Steelers just as the Titans went on the clock.

In 2003, the Titans were supposedly targeting Larry Johnson at #28, but the Chiefs had pick #27, and the rest is history.

BeerBaron
05-06-2008, 12:21 AM
most people would say that the bears missed out on....every....QB, but i dont think so.

i think they got just who they should have in each situation, not passing on or missing anybody

PackerLegend
05-06-2008, 12:23 AM
I read somewhere the Packers had a deal in place with the Bills and they were going to trade up and take Jamal Charles but the Bills backed out at the last second.

JagHombre22
05-06-2008, 12:31 AM
Jacksonville passed on Big Ben back in 2004 or whatever...instead we took Reggie Williams...

Mark Clayton...instead took Matt Jones

Flyboy
05-06-2008, 12:48 AM
Anyone the Bengals wanted the Saints took before them. Lawlz.

CashmoneyDrew
05-06-2008, 02:45 AM
Limas Sweed or Quentin Groves for the Titans. Both went one and two spots in front of the Titans second round pick.

skinzzfan25
05-06-2008, 05:39 AM
Josh Johnson should have been a skin.

Screw Gruden and his fetish for QBs.

Dam8610
05-06-2008, 05:49 AM
This year the big one was Cliff Avril, whom the Lions traded up to grab right before the Colts picked.

In 2006, Jacksonville grabbed MJD a little bit before the Colts drafted, and the Colts then picked Tim Jennings.

In 2005, in the first 2 rounds the team before the Colts took a DT I feel the Colts would've taken (Chargers took Luis Castillo round 1, Falcons took Jonathan Babineaux round 2) had they been available, but I'm not at all disappointed with Jackson and Hayden.

BaLLiN
05-06-2008, 06:22 AM
Giants missed out on Reggie Smith in the end of the second :(

kiranadwaney
05-06-2008, 07:04 AM
I wanted Charles Godfrey in the third round Carolina picked him one spot ahead, we got Chevis Jackson. Then later in the third I really wanted Jeremy Zuttah he went one pick ahead to Tampa we took Harry Douglas, what made this worse was then we missed out on Zuttah and then passed up on Marcus Harrison for Douglas.

LonghornsLegend
05-06-2008, 07:07 AM
Giants missed out on Reggie Smith in the end of the second :(

No, the Giants didn't miss out on him, YOU missed out on Reggie Smith lol...You sure did want a guy pretty badly that wasn't a sure thing to suceed.

AkiliSmith
05-06-2008, 08:12 AM
Anyone the Bengals wanted the Saints took before them. Lawlz.

Keith Rivers and Pat Sims >>> Sedrick Ellis

They didn't want to give up a 3rd rd pick who would be a certain starter/significant contributor when it was pretty much guaranteed Rivers was going to be there. They had Ellis ranked above Rivers, but not by much.

TheGreatEscape
05-06-2008, 09:42 AM
Keith Rivers and Pat Sims >>> Sedrick Ellis

They didn't want to give up a 3rd rd pick who would be a certain starter/significant contributor when it was pretty much guaranteed Rivers was going to be there. They had Ellis ranked above Rivers, but not by much.

While the Bengals may feel that rivers and sims > ellis but I disagree and I think it's a pretty big difference.

Bengalsrocket
05-06-2008, 09:54 AM
No one here is saying they would take Sims over Ellis or anything, obviously. But Rivers has as much potential to dominate at his position that Ellis has to dominate at his own in my opinion.

With that in mind, when both positions are a need position for your team, why throw draft picks away to get one when you could just have the other. The saints might have felt that Sedrick Ellis is the only guy for them in the top 10, but Cincinnati obviously didn't share that feeling.

Flyboy takes every opportunity he can to tell these forums how much the saints "donkey punched" the bengals, but bengals fans simply don't feel that way (or logical bengals fans anyways, however rare we are :) ).

Every bengals fan who wanted us to take Ellis knew on some level that he wouldn't be there when we had to pick. Its just like Jets fans who wanted D-mac, KC fans who wanted Jake Long and Baltimore fans who wanted Matt Ryan.

Anyways, I'm really happy with the Bengals picks, and I wouldn't trade our draft for the saints draft, even with Ellis standing there.

art vandelay
05-06-2008, 09:55 AM
The Bills had Jerome Felton on the phone and told them they were going to take him but I forget some team took him first.

The Bills also would have taken Cody Wallace in the 4th had he been there. They also had Justin Forsett on the phone trying to negotiate a free agent contract but then he was taken by the Seahawks.

BeerBaron
05-06-2008, 10:17 AM
No, the Giants didn't miss out on him, YOU missed out on Reggie Smith lol...You sure did want a guy pretty badly that wasn't a sure thing to suceed.

no rookie ever drafted has been a sure thing to succeed. and if there ever would be one that was a sure thing to succeed, he was probably the top pick of the draft

Mr. Marcus
05-06-2008, 10:49 AM
The Colts were going to draft Maurice Drew in 2006, but Jacksonville took him two picks earlier.

Would've been amazing to see, but I find it hard to believe they would've drafted 2 RBs in the first 2 rounds that year. You have some proof of this?

keylime_5
05-06-2008, 10:52 AM
Going way back, every team from picks 1-4 missed out on LaDanian Tomlinson in 2001. Atlanta, Cincinnati, Arizona, and Cleveland.

BeerBaron
05-06-2008, 11:46 AM
Going way back, every team from picks 1-4 missed out on LaDanian Tomlinson in 2001. Atlanta, Cincinnati, Arizona, and Cleveland.

wasn't it atlanta that traded up over tehm all to take vick? LT was san diego's trade down, consolation prize. him and drew brees anyway. not bad in the end even though brees isnt there anymore...

A Perfect Score
05-06-2008, 11:51 AM
i was livid when the ravens passed on justin king at the end of the third and took oniel cousins instead...then st louis took him a few picks later, right in front of us again...

Hines
05-06-2008, 11:56 AM
I think the Steelers wanted Dre Moore but got taken by the Bucs before them.

BeerBaron
05-06-2008, 12:01 PM
i was livid when the ravens passed on justin king at the end of the third and took oniel cousins instead...then st louis took him a few picks later, right in front of us again...

you got fabian washington, a former first rounder, for a 4th. i wouldnt be too worried if i were you...

Scotty D
05-06-2008, 12:14 PM
Pats took Jerod Mayo from our grasps!

No, but passing on Brandon Albert could end up being Millen's worst move ever.

A Perfect Score
05-06-2008, 12:33 PM
you got fabian washington, a former first rounder, for a 4th. i wouldnt be too worried if i were you...

well i know that now, but i didnt at the time that trade didnt take place until later in teh round...TBH, our need at corner was so great that i would have like king AND washington. i think fabian will do great thing for us though, im pretty psyched about that trade.

Race for the Heisman
05-06-2008, 12:36 PM
While I still believe Chris Williams is a good pick, I was kind of bummed the Bears passed on Albert.

A Perfect Score
05-06-2008, 12:38 PM
While I still believe Chris Williams is a good pick, I was kind of bummed the Bears passed on Albert.

i thought that was one of the smarter picks in the first...williams is a surefire LT, and a damn good one at that. IMO hes a much better player then albert. Well, maybe not much better, but hes far more polished and much more ready then albert is at LT.

Gay Ork Wang
05-06-2008, 12:39 PM
I think the bears wanted Booty in the 5th when the vikes jumped on top but they though steltz is a starting caliber Safety

BeerBaron
05-06-2008, 12:48 PM
I think the bears wanted Booty in the 5th when the vikes jumped on top. They apparently already called them in the 4th but they though steltz is a starting caliber Safety

thats interesting, i hadn't heard that. wouldn't have minded booty...

Gay Ork Wang
05-06-2008, 12:52 PM
nvm, i think the call wasnt true, but they wanted him...is in the Tidbit Thread

SFbear
05-06-2008, 01:01 PM
nvm, i think the call wasnt true, but they wanted him...is in the Tidbit Thread

It was either Steltz or Booty at the fourth pick and they went with who they thought had the best chance at being a starter. Then Booty almost fell to the 5th pick until the Vikes traded up.

Remember when the Redskins were offering the sixth pick in the 2007 draft for Lance Briggs and the 31st. Jerry Angelo decided it was not worth taking the offer and grabbing Adrian Peterson one pick before for Vikings because...wait for it...the Bears were confident that Cedric Benson was the answer at running back.

Please add this to the list of reasons I hate Cedric Benson.

BeerBaron
05-06-2008, 01:03 PM
It was either Steltz or Booty at the fourth pick and they went with who they thought had the best chance at being a starter. Then Booty almost fell to the 5th pick until the Vikes traded up.

Remember when the Redskins were offering the sixth pick in the 2007 draft for Lance Briggs and the 31st. Jerry Angelo decided it was not worth taking the offer and grabbing Adrian Peterson one pick before for Vikings because...wait for it...the Bears were confident that Cedric Benson was the answer at running back.

Please add this to the list of reasons I hate Cedric Benson.

hahaha, thats awesome....well, not really....but its funny to think about. we could have both APs on our team

Race for the Heisman
05-06-2008, 01:08 PM
i thought that was one of the smarter picks in the first...williams is a surefire LT, and a damn good one at that. IMO hes a much better player then albert. Well, maybe not much better, but hes far more polished and much more ready then albert is at LT.

More polished, higher floor, sure. But higher ceiling? That's why I felt slightly disappointed.

UKfan
05-06-2008, 02:05 PM
This year the big one was Cliff Avril, whom the Lions traded up to grab right before the Colts picked.

In 2006, Jacksonville grabbed MJD a little bit before the Colts drafted, and the Colts then picked Tim Jennings.

In 2005, in the first 2 rounds the team before the Colts took a DT I feel the Colts would've taken (Chargers took Luis Castillo round 1, Falcons took Jonathan Babineaux round 2) had they been available, but I'm not at all disappointed with Jackson and Hayden.

Beat me to it.

IndyColtScout
05-06-2008, 02:12 PM
Colts fans are forgetting the biggest miss in Bill Polian draft history.

There is no way around this being the biggest miss of all time for Polian (exclusing the Bills).

Just a few years ago, Polian passed on the chance to select & team Marion Barber with Edge. Instead of taking Barber, Polian took Vincent Burns who never did a damn thing in the NFL.

I want Jones-Drew as much as anyone, still wish he was on the Colts and every year am reminded twice. However, the Colts didn't have the chance to pick MJD, Avril, Babineux...

Polian DID have the chance to select Barber, and passed to take Burns. That's the definition of this topic. The Colts would have a better offense than NE had last year had they had taken Barber.

Can you imagine Manning, Edge/Addai, Barber, Harrison, Wayne, Stokley/Gonzalez, Clark, and their consistantly good OL? I don't see many teams besides the BAL SB DEF stopping that Colts Offense.

Gay Ork Wang
05-06-2008, 02:19 PM
Colts fans are forgetting the biggest miss in Bill Polian draft history.

There is no way around this being the biggest miss of all time for Polian (exclusing the Bills).

Just a few years ago, Polian passed on the chance to select & team Marion Barber with Edge. Instead of taking Barber, Polian took Vincent Burns who never did a damn thing in the NFL.

I want Jones-Drew as much as anyone, still wish he was on the Colts and every year am reminded twice. However, the Colts didn't have the chance to pick MJD, Avril, Babineux...

Polian DID have the chance to select Barber, and passed to take Burns. That's the definition of this topic. The Colts would have a better offense than NE had last year had they had taken Barber.

Can you imagine Manning, Edge/Addai, Barber, Harrison, Wayne, Stokley/Gonzalez, Clark, and their consistantly good OL? I don't see many teams besides the BAL SB DEF stopping that Colts Offense.
Read the thread. Its about a guy a team wouldve get but didnt because someone in front of them got him....so pls dont think u r smarter than everyone else

Wyndham
05-06-2008, 02:21 PM
I'm very happy with the Chiefs' draft, but it would've been nice if Reggie Smith had slipped one more pick in round three. The Chiefs opted for Brad Cottam instead. A couple picks later, Early Doucet was selected. They obviously had Cottam rated higher than Doucet, but I would've preferred they opt for D-Bowe's former teammate and fellow WR.

IndyColtScout
05-06-2008, 02:27 PM
Read the thread. Its about a guy a team wouldve get but didnt because someone in front of them got him....so pls dont think u r smarter than everyone else

DUDE WTF? The title of the thread says "Players your teams just missed or passed up on" How does passing on Marion Barber not qualify for this thread? How am I trying to act smarter than anyone?

How about you try not to flex you big dick head on a freakin internet board....

I didn't say or do anything in my original post to deserve that shot MF.

Gay Ork Wang
05-06-2008, 02:32 PM
U said: Thats what the topic is all about. Acting like we dont take about the topic Mr. Obvious.
If u talk about that, why dont we start with things like: Tony Mandarich, Dan Marino blabla. If someone is a steal we could say that about every team...

And have fun with that Infraction ;)

IndyColtScout
05-06-2008, 02:39 PM
U said: Thats what the topic is all about. Acting like we dont take about the topic Mr. Obvious.
If u talk about that, why dont we start with things like: Tony Mandarich, Dan Marino blabla. If someone is a steal we could say that about every team...

And have fun with that Infraction ;)

I said "that's what the topic is all about" because my example is a pure example of what this thread is about.

I don't know what your problem is or whatever but your being really childish. First with the personal attack, and now with the cute little statement "have fun with that infraction." That's just so damn cute, even more so with the smiley face.

How about be a real man and just say you took my comment out of context?

Gay Ork Wang
05-06-2008, 02:51 PM
well thats so cool of u making a statement: yay, my example is the ****.

All i was saying is dont feel like ur someone special. And u know, dont get worked up about everything. Jeez, u turn into a mad baby as if i stole a lollipop

T-RICH49
05-06-2008, 03:07 PM
for KC I'd have loved to have gotten Doucet and Zuttah both who could have been used with our 1st two 3rd round picks

no love
05-06-2008, 04:01 PM
I thought the 49ers really missed out on Curtis Lofton. A lot of people had us taking him in the first or the second, but he got picked up 2 spots before us at 37.

He would have been a starter at the TED spot, now we are still looking for something who might be able to fill that role.

Chilo might be a good starter eventually, but Lofton would have filled an immediate need and I think will be a great MLB in this league.

MetSox17
05-06-2008, 04:31 PM
Lawlz at the Texans' after we leapfrogged them for Mike Jenkins :D

CC.SD
05-06-2008, 04:47 PM
Lawlz at the Texans' after we leapfrogged them for Mike Jenkins :D

Cold blooded, check it and see

Geo
05-06-2008, 04:54 PM
Would've been amazing to see, but I find it hard to believe they would've drafted 2 RBs in the first 2 rounds that year. You have some proof of this?
Polian and Dungy have said it more than once publically, fact is the Colts had Mo Drew graded as a first round pick and would have taken him at #30 if Joseph Addai wasn't there. So they were more than willing to draft him in the 2nd, as their second back and main return man, and they didn't expect Jacksonville of all teams to take such an undersized back.

fischbowl
05-06-2008, 04:56 PM
I really wanted Cliff Avril instead of Chris Ellis

Geo
05-06-2008, 05:03 PM
Colts fans are forgetting the biggest miss in Bill Polian draft history.

There is no way around this being the biggest miss of all time for Polian (exclusing the Bills).

Just a few years ago, Polian passed on the chance to select & team Marion Barber with Edge. Instead of taking Barber, Polian took Vincent Burns who never did a damn thing in the NFL.

I want Jones-Drew as much as anyone, still wish he was on the Colts and every year am reminded twice. However, the Colts didn't have the chance to pick MJD, Avril, Babineux...

Polian DID have the chance to select Barber, and passed to take Burns. That's the definition of this topic. The Colts would have a better offense than NE had last year had they had taken Barber.

Can you imagine Manning, Edge/Addai, Barber, Harrison, Wayne, Stokley/Gonzalez, Clark, and their consistantly good OL? I don't see many teams besides the BAL SB DEF stopping that Colts Offense.
It's easy to look back and want to change history. The Colts obviously had Burns rated higher, and fact is the league as a whole passed on Barber until the Cowboys got him early on Day Two in the 4th round, that happened for whatever reason or reasons and not some crazy agenda. Heck, you could make a case for every team passing on Marques Colston in 06, and so on.

But certainly, the Colts would have been much better off drafting Barber, even if he needs a second back to help carry the load. Wonder if Tony Dungy didn't have an inkling to, given that he's an former Golphers player himself and keeps an eye on the program (UDFAs Ben Utecht, Darrell Reid).

Btw re: mid-round runningbacks, from what was said at the time and the fit/measurables, I think the Colts considered trading up for or at least wanted Ohio State RB Antonio Pittman last year. But ultimately they didn't make that move, and obviously St. Louis had higher waiver priority to claim Pittman once New Orleans cut him.

no love
05-06-2008, 05:18 PM
It's easy to look back and want to change history. The Colts obviously had Burns rated higher, and fact is the league as a whole passed on Barber until the Cowboys got him early on Day Two in the 4th round, that happened for whatever reason or reasons and not some crazy agenda.


I guess when you are in a draft like 2005 it was hard not to slip as a RB. The guys picked before him were no slouches Ronnie Brown, Cedric Benson, Cadillac Williams, Frank Gore, the one exception is JJ Arrington.

Although it seemed like he had ample hype before the draft and posted a very respectable 4.47 40 time at his proday. I was actually mad that we drafted Frank Gore instead, of course I am perfectly fine with our selection now that we might have one of the best backs from that 2005 class.

Geo
05-06-2008, 05:29 PM
Agreed, I'd gladly take Frank the Tank over Barber right now.

Here's the full 05 class of backs for anyone wondering:

2005 - Running Backs
Rd Sel # Player School Team
1 2 Ronnie Brown Auburn Miami Dolphins
1 4 Cedric Benson Texas Chicago Bears
1 5 Cadillac Williams Auburn Tampa Bay Buccaneers
2 44 J.J. Arrington California Arizona Cardinals
2 54 Eric Shelton Louisville Carolina Panthers
3 65 Frank Gore Miami (Fla.) San Francisco 49ers
3 73 Vernand Morency Oklahoma State Houston Texans
3 77 Ryan Moats Louisiana Tech Philadelphia Eagles
4 109 Marion Barber Minnesota Dallas Cowboys
4 110 Brandon Jacobs Southern Illinois New York Giants
4 112 Ciatrick Fason Florida Minnesota Vikings
4 120 Manuel White UCLA Washington Redskins
4 127 Alvin Pearman Virginia Jacksonville Jaguars
4 130 Darren Sproles Kansas State San Diego Chargers
5 142 Damien Nash Missouri Tennessee Titans
5 158 Justin Green Montana Baltimore Ravens
6 182 Cedric Houston Tennessee New York Jets
6 196 Tony Jackson Iowa Seattle Seahawks
6 201 DeAndra Cobb Michigan State Atlanta Falcons
7 221 Rick Razzano Mississippi Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7 222 Nehemiah Broughton The Citadel Washington Redskins
7 236 Lionel Gates Louisville Buffalo Bills
7 244 Noah Herron Northwestern Pittsburgh Steelers
7 251 Madison Hedgecock North Carolina St. Louis Rams
Hedgecock is now the Giants' starting fullback, btw. LOL @ Eric Shelton, the Panthers are turrible. [/Barkley]

art vandelay
05-06-2008, 05:35 PM
Wow out of the first 3 rounds (8 RB's), there are only 2 great players and one who was good his rookie season but has been injured.

Geo
05-06-2008, 05:56 PM
I don't think JJ Arrington has played his best ball yet. It will be interesting to see where he signs after this season, when he becomes an unrestricted free agent.

Hwoarang
05-06-2008, 06:06 PM
Keith Rivers and Pat Sims >>> Sedrick Ellis

They didn't want to give up a 3rd rd pick who would be a certain starter/significant contributor when it was pretty much guaranteed Rivers was going to be there. They had Ellis ranked above Rivers, but not by much.

Ellis and Porter>>>>>Rivers and Sims

Seriously come on man..

BTW I really believe the Bengals would have taken Harvey if J-Ville didn't trade up.

Bengalsrocket
05-06-2008, 07:13 PM
Ellis and Porter>>>>>Rivers and Sims

Seriously come on man..

BTW I really believe the Bengals would have taken Harvey if J-Ville didn't trade up.

there is no way to tell if they would have or not, but god I would be really disappointed if they did.

no love
05-06-2008, 07:16 PM
I don't think JJ Arrington has played his best ball yet. It will be interesting to see where he signs after this season, when he becomes an unrestricted free agent.

Could be true. Afflicted by the ailment otherwise known as Thomas Jones syndrome. I think Edge may have it too.

tjsunstein
05-06-2008, 07:36 PM
With the exception of Corey Williams. Our 2004 draft was one of the worst in the history of the NFL.

This year though there were a couple of times where we picked someone when I wouldv'e liked someone completely different.

We picked Jermichael Finley over Phillip Wheeler. Im very high on Wheeler and think he can be a great energy guy on special teams and maybe even an upgrade to Poppinga.

Forgive but dont Forget.

Flyboy
05-06-2008, 07:45 PM
LOL @ Bengal fans trying to console themselves by being hosed by two teams. It's funny.

Geo
05-06-2008, 08:17 PM
There are much, much worse consolation prizes than Keith Rivers and Pat Sims.

For the Saints, they needed a DT most of all, so them getting Ellis works perfectly. For the Bengals, they need a defensive captain to succeed vet John Thornton and they can't count on wild cards Thurman/Brooks, Rivers is perfect in that regard.

Honestly, it worked out for both teams.

Flyboy
05-06-2008, 08:19 PM
There are much, much worse consolation prizes than Keith Rivers and Pat Sims.

For the Saints, they needed a DT most of all, so them getting Ellis works perfectly. For the Bengals, they need a defensive captain to succeed vet John Thornton and they can't count on wild cards Thurman/Brooks, Rivers is perfect in that regard.

Honestly, it worked out for both teams.

I'm not saying they didn't get good players - I loved Keith Rivers and he was on my radar had we not been able to trade up for Ellis. However, they did get outdone by two teams in the draft imo who were just more aggressive.

bored of education
05-06-2008, 08:48 PM
Chiefs missed out on jordyz with the 5th and 15th

Canadian_draft_fan
05-06-2008, 09:38 PM
Skins apparently were ready to draft Trevor Laws @ #48 but the Iggles nabbed him 1 pick earlier. Bastards!

Sniper
05-06-2008, 09:58 PM
Skins apparently were ready to draft Trevor Laws @ #48 but the Iggles nabbed him 1 pick earlier. Bastards!

Hehehehehehehehe Laws is a stud.

zoinks
05-07-2008, 07:56 PM
In the 2nd round of 2006, Titans' GM Floyd Reese called a kid and told him congratulations, you're going to be a Titan....but then they traded down and ultimately ended up taking Lendale White.

The first kid's name? Devin Hester.

It'll be interesting to see what happens when the Titans face the Bears this year.

DraftKidWonder
05-07-2008, 08:22 PM
Antoine Cason to the Packers!!! Aaaaahhhhhhh! Aaaaaahhhhhh! I wanted that pick soooo bad, not like you can tell. That almost made me as mad as when the Bills took Marshawn Lynch over the Packers last year. Ahhhhhh! And we passed on Dustin Keller to get Jordy freckin Nelson.

Geo
05-07-2008, 08:27 PM
Wow, I never knew that. Huh.

Edit: About the Titans/Hester, that is.

Caddy
05-07-2008, 08:28 PM
Antoine Cason to the Packers!!! Aaaaahhhhhhh! Aaaaaahhhhhh! I wanted that pick soooo bad, not like you can tell. That almost made me as mad as when the Bills took Marshawn Lynch over the Packers last year. Ahhhhhh! And we passed on Dustin Keller to get Jordy freckin Nelson.

I believe Keller went before the Packers picked Nelson.

Michigan
05-07-2008, 08:38 PM
see signature

kalbears13
05-07-2008, 08:44 PM
From 1999-2003: anybody else.

zoinks
05-07-2008, 09:13 PM
Wow, I never knew that. Huh.

Edit: About the Titans/Hester, that is.

Yeah. I remember seeing an interview where Hester mentioned that he though he was going to be a Titan, and was upset when White's name went across the screen.....he was like, "Wait...I just talked to them!"

Former-GM-turned-ESPN-analyst Floyd Reese tells the whole story here....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=reese_floyd&id=2885758

Apparently, Floyd wanted Hester, but Fisher & Chow talked him into Lendale.

LonghornsLegend
05-07-2008, 09:21 PM
Yeah. I remember seeing an interview where Hester mentioned that he though he was going to be a Titan, and was upset when White's name went across the screen.....he was like, "Wait...I just talked to them!"

Former-GM-turned-ESPN-analyst Floyd Reese tells the whole story here....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=reese_floyd&id=2885758

Apparently, Floyd wanted Hester, but Fisher & Chow talked him into Lendale.

Well he did make some good points in regards to going with Lendale


1. The confidence of the coaches in LenDale White.
2. The need for a young running back.
3. I could not decide with certainty where to play Hester.
4. We had a Pro Bowl-caliber returner in Pacman Jones.

I was convinced Hester would be special and have an impact on the league, but I'm not predicting he will be a superstar wide receiver in this league.


They did have Pacman at the time who was arguably one of the best returners in the game, and the fact that Hester did not have a solid position, Lendale ended up pretty good, and if they still had Pacman returning kicks Hester would not of had a definite spot...I love Floyd Reese, great talent evaluator.

Dreamers
05-07-2008, 09:24 PM
Ravens wanted Craig Stevens but was taken by the Titans on the pick before...

http://www.titansradio.com/cgi-bin/blurb_view.cgi?blurb=news619230

Geo
05-07-2008, 09:27 PM
Apparently, Floyd wanted Hester, but Fisher & Chow talked him into Lendale.
Southern Cal guys, pfft.

I'm glad the Colts don't have to see Hester two times a year. That's like three touchdowns right there.

(Granted, Adam Jones being a pretty good return man probably didn't help Hester to the Titans.)

no love
05-07-2008, 09:40 PM
Yeah. I remember seeing an interview where Hester mentioned that he though he was going to be a Titan, and was upset when White's name went across the screen.....he was like, "Wait...I just talked to them!"

Former-GM-turned-ESPN-analyst Floyd Reese tells the whole story here....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=reese_floyd&id=2885758

Apparently, Floyd wanted Hester, but Fisher & Chow talked him into Lendale.

And then Chow got fired.

Dreamers
05-07-2008, 09:42 PM
Antoine Cason to the Packers!!! Aaaaahhhhhhh! Aaaaaahhhhhh! I wanted that pick soooo bad, not like you can tell. That almost made me as mad as when the Bills took Marshawn Lynch over the Packers last year. Ahhhhhh! And we passed on Dustin Keller to get Jordy freckin Nelson.

Bengals QB Carson Palmer said Jordy Nelson was the best WR in the draft or something to that effect. Also I know some of the GMs loved him. I wouldn't be down on the pick at all.

DraftKidWonder
05-07-2008, 09:44 PM
I believe Keller went before the Packers picked Nelson.

He did, but we could have gotten Keller at 30 but we traded that pick away to the Jets, who picked Keller.

BeerBaron
05-07-2008, 09:55 PM
Yeah. I remember seeing an interview where Hester mentioned that he though he was going to be a Titan, and was upset when White's name went across the screen.....he was like, "Wait...I just talked to them!"

Former-GM-turned-ESPN-analyst Floyd Reese tells the whole story here....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=reese_floyd&id=2885758

Apparently, Floyd wanted Hester, but Fisher & Chow talked him into Lendale.

thank christ they passed on hester....wow. he IS the bears best scoring option

regoob2
05-07-2008, 10:03 PM
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lol, ya that sucks.

zoinks
05-07-2008, 10:38 PM
Granted, Adam Jones being a pretty good return man probably didn't help Hester to the Titans.

Yep. Not that I dislike Lendale, who is a solid, durable power back....but at this point, his upside is very limited. He could play for 10 years, and not have a single run of 30+ yards.

The part that sticks in my craw is the fact that the decision was based in part on Adam Jones' presence. Not only did he screw the Titans organization out of ten million bucks and his own playmaking ability, but he also caused them to pass on the most dangerous returner in history.

I never cease to be amazed at how one idiot punk can cost an organization so much, and on so many levels.

BeerBaron
05-07-2008, 10:41 PM
Yep. Not that I dislike Lendale, who is a solid, durable power back....but at this point, his upside is very limited. He could play for 10 years, and not have a single run of 30+ yards.

The part that sticks in my craw is the fact that the decision was based in part on Adam Jones' presence. Not only did he screw the Titans organization out of ten million bucks and his own playmaking ability, but he also caused them to pass on the most dangerous returner in history.

I never cease to be amazed at how one idiot punk can cost an organization so much, and on so many levels.

thank you, thank you, thank you adam "pacman" jones. from all of chicago bears nation, we thank you for being a good enough return man for the titans to pass on devin hester

Flyboy
05-08-2008, 12:31 AM
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LOL. That's, yeah, painful.

LonghornsLegend
05-08-2008, 12:56 AM
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That pick stings for so many reasons, at that point taking another WR was already overkill, add to the fact that he wasn't needed, had been out of football for so long, and who was taken off the board immediately after? That just hurts...That pick pretty much sums up Millen's tenure.

Shane P. Hallam
05-08-2008, 10:45 AM
That pick stings for so many reasons, at that point taking another WR was already overkill, add to the fact that he wasn't needed, had been out of football for so long, and who was taken off the board immediately after? That just hurts...That pick pretty much sums up Millen's tenure.

Well, to be real, Merriman and Ware wouldn't have fit, but Brown, that's a miss.

Sniper
05-08-2008, 11:46 AM
Well, to be real, Merriman and Ware wouldn't have fit, but Brown, that's a miss.

Ware could have been an excellent Cover 2 DE.

LonghornsLegend
05-08-2008, 12:02 PM
Well, to be real, Merriman and Ware wouldn't have fit, but Brown, that's a miss.

I think Ware and/or Merriman could be a very good Cover 2 DE, as good as they are as 3-4 OLB? Probably not, but both guys are the ideal size for that position, around 6'2-6'4, between 250-280 lbs, and both guys are incredibly fast off the edge...Most cover 2 DE's are about the size as these 2, Ware obviously being the better fit, but when you see the 3 guys who went right after, and Millen had to fill his need to take another WR so soon it was just terrible on all fronts...Either of those 3 would still be on the team and somebody to build around at the least, MW didn't even have a small impact at any point on the team.

MetSox17
05-08-2008, 12:11 PM
Well, to be real, Merriman and Ware wouldn't have fit, but Brown, that's a miss.

Any talent like that on the board will automatically help your team a lot more than any WR would have then.

If he didn't fit.. Make him fit.

corbi328
05-09-2008, 05:33 PM
I think the Bears were set to take OG Mike McGlynn in the 4th round but he was selected by another team just before. We ended up trading down and taking Craig Stelz who looks to be a legit starting safety.

luee
05-23-2008, 02:36 AM
got lucky on Phillips. All needs were met with value picks.

Flyboy
05-23-2008, 11:23 AM
The Saints were posed to take D-Ryan in the second round of the 2006 draft but the Texans took him right before us.

LonghornsLegend
05-23-2008, 01:28 PM
The Saints were posed to take D-Ryan in the second round of the 2006 draft but the Texans took him right before us.

Ouch...Demeco is a beast, shouldn't of even slipped that far.

Shere Khan
06-01-2008, 03:02 PM
Last year, I wanted Darrell Revis in the first, and Lamarr Woodley in the second.

I'm happy with Hall, though....and Irons, at least, personality wise, is awesome.

BaLLiN
06-01-2008, 03:23 PM
in the second, we took Terrell Thomas, and i wanted Reggie Smith :(

Mr. Stiller
06-02-2008, 03:10 PM
This year the big one was Cliff Avril, whom the Lions traded up to grab right before the Colts picked.

In 2006, Jacksonville grabbed MJD a little bit before the Colts drafted, and the Colts then picked Tim Jennings.

In 2005, in the first 2 rounds the team before the Colts took a DT I feel the Colts would've taken (Chargers took Luis Castillo round 1, Falcons took Jonathan Babineaux round 2) had they been available, but I'm not at all disappointed with Jackson and Hayden.

I don't like Avril as a DE. I think he's more of a "Blitzer" than Passrusher, I think he'd be a killer Tampa2 SLB.

yourfavestoner
06-02-2008, 04:24 PM
Jacksonville passed on Big Ben back in 2004 or whatever...instead we took Reggie Williams...

Mark Clayton...instead took Matt Jones

I was so pissed about that on draft day I punched a hole in the wall.

Brent
06-02-2008, 11:20 PM
I am not a Texans fan, but to think that the Broncos took Clinton Portis and they didnt sucks for them.

BigJohn98
06-02-2008, 11:24 PM
The Jags picked Eric Westmoreland. The next pick was Steve Smith.

d34ng3l021
06-03-2008, 12:32 AM
Um 2007 NFL Draft.

2. Calvin Johnson, WR. Detroit Lions

3. Joe Thomas, LT. Cleveland Browns

4. Gaines Adams, DE. Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

5. Levi Brown, OT. Arizona Cardinals

6. LaRon Landry, S. Washington Redskins.

7. Adrian Peterson, RB. Minnesota Vikings.

8. Jamaal Anderson, DE. Atlanta Falcons.

Yeah. It sucks.

d34ng3l021
06-03-2008, 12:33 AM
I was so pissed about that on draft day I punched a hole in the wall.

Screw Mark Clayton. You guys could have had Roddy White!

LonghornsLegend
06-03-2008, 02:08 AM
I don't get why Falcons fans act like Anderson is nothing more then a bust already, even if he did struggle, I'd see what the guy does his 2nd year...Because he will be everyones favorite player if he has a breakout year, but the vibe from all the Falcons fans I see posting is that its a foregone conclusion he sucks, hate to see you guys being so hard on him because you will all be singing his praises if he turns into something...Wasn't he considered to be raw and a project coming out anyway? At least give him 2 years to play mediocre, as of now he seems to be still learning the game.

d34ng3l021
06-03-2008, 03:24 AM
I am not saying he is a bust. Oh no. I know he is raw and he was recruited at Arkansas as a WR. It will take time to build up a good amount of pass rushing moves.

I am only slightly upset because of the ridiculous amount of talent that the 2007 class had. Calvin Johnson, Joe Thomas, Levi Brown, Laron Landry, Adrian Peterson, Amobi Okoye, Marshawn Lynch, Patrick Willis, Darrelle Revis, Dwayne Bowe, Jon Beason, Reggie Nelson all had outstanding rookie seasons. I am also really upset about not getting LaRon Landry in the draft. He was going to be our guy for so long...