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neko4
05-07-2008, 04:20 PM
On offense I can see Brandon Jackson becoming a good, reliable backup. Also I think one of the OG's we have (Spitz, Colledge, Coston) will breakout.
On defense, I'll go out on a limb and say Jarrett Bush. Harrell is my 2nd choice

Yatta!
05-07-2008, 04:24 PM
On offense I'll go with a cheeky pick and say Rodgers:) I'm fairly confident he has a solid season.

For the defence I think Jenkins after he underacheived last year. It shouldn't take much for him to improve his sack count and get some attention on a national scale. Harrell and the safeties are other potential 'break out' players imo.

princefielder28
05-07-2008, 04:30 PM
Offense : Allen Barbre
Defense : Aaron Rouse

PACKmanN
05-07-2008, 06:15 PM
Defense: Nick Collins, he knows his job is not safe, now that Rouse has been in the NFL for a year, he is prepared to take either his or Bigby job.

Offense: Aaron Rodgers, cheap and easy choice, he gets to step in an offense built for him to succeed in, now the question is if he can play in the NFL; I think he can.

TitleTown088
05-07-2008, 07:09 PM
Greg Jennings. Everyone will say he already broke out but I think he hasn't scratch the surface yet. He'll make the probowl.

Defense: Harrell and jolly.

Pack_Attack_4
05-07-2008, 08:05 PM
Offence-Jennings- hes gonna make the pro bowl
Defence-Hawk- hes gonna play like a top 5 pick should play

Goatboy1717
05-07-2008, 08:18 PM
Offense-Donald Lee
Obviously I think Rodgers will too but that is the obvious pick. I think Lee will have a pretty good year with the other teams focusing on our WR's.

Defense-Atari Bigby
His regular season wasnt as good as his numbers indicated but he played amazing in the postseason and I think he will carry that over to this year and become a top safety. Thats right. A top safety.

Favre4ever
05-08-2008, 11:33 AM
Offense: Donald Lee. Rodgers will throw to him often when he's in trouble and he'll make things happen after the catch like he always does.

Defense: Aaron Rouse. Hopefully this year, he wont get injured in camp because i expect big things from him. We cant keep him on the bench any longer, with his size, speed, playmaking abilities and incredible instincts. My bet is Collins loses his starting spot this year, not because of poor play but because Rouse is simply better.

Honorable mention: Bigby. He got better with each games he played, let's see if it gets better...

umphrey
05-08-2008, 01:22 PM
Grant & Bigby

Smokey
05-08-2008, 03:08 PM
Offense:

Aaron Rodgers - The obvious pick I know but a great deal is riding on him living up to expectations. I'm betting he comes into his own.

Defense:

Aaron Rouse - He's got the size and speed to succeed. I'm betting (hoping really) that he'll shore up the questions at safety and become a complete player.

GB12
05-08-2008, 07:49 PM
Defense - Patrick Lee - Should be his first year as a starter and after a year of learning as the nickel I expect him to be ready right a way.

Offense - Aaron Rodgers - 2nd year as the starting QB, I think he holds off Brohm and begins to make a name for himself.

Yatta!
05-08-2008, 07:52 PM
Defense - Patrick Lee - Should be his first year as a starter and after a year of learning as the nickel I expect him to be ready right a way.

Offense - Aaron Rodgers - 2nd year as the starting QB, I think he holds off Brohm and begins to make a name for himself.

Are you talking about in two seasons time GB12?

I assumed the thread was supposed to be about this year as in 08/09 season. Thats what I based my picks on anyway.

AtariBigby
05-12-2008, 11:24 AM
OFFENSE: Daryn Colledge http://www.nfluk.com/imagefolder/medium/Feature%20Article/colledge.jpg I really, really HOPE

DEFENSE: Johnny Jolly http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cuN84c5Q2bv4/340x.jpg

Kampman for President
06-02-2008, 10:14 PM
Allen Barbre
Tramon Williams
Johnny Jolly
Aaron Rouse
A.J. Hawk

GB12
06-02-2008, 10:30 PM
Are you talking about in two seasons time GB12?

I assumed the thread was supposed to be about this year as in 08/09 season. Thats what I based my picks on anyway.
Oh yes, I was. 09 would be next year. I'll change the title to 08 then.


DEFENSE: Johnny Jolly http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0cuN84c5Q2bv4/340x.jpg
Jolly more than broke out last year.

Johnny Jolly
A.J. Hawk
Same thing with Jolly, and what are you people saying Hawk expecting? He's been playing very well since being drafted. I don't understand this whole thought that Hawk's under performing. If you're not happy with what he's done so far you might never be happy. What do you want him to do that he hasn't been doing? What could he possibly do to "break out"?

Kampman for President
06-02-2008, 10:34 PM
Oh yes, I was. 09 would be next year. I'll change the title to 08 then.


Jolly more than broke out last year.

Same thing with Jolly, and what are you people saying Hawk expecting? He's been playing very well since being drafted. I don't understand this whole thought that Hawk's under performing. If you're not happy with what he's done so far you might never be happy. What do you want him to do that he hasn't been doing? What could he possibly do to "break out"?

How did Jolly break out? He had a good season in his limited playing time but that was nowhere near a breakout season for him IMO.

Hawk was the 5th overall pick, I expect 125+ tackles, 2-3 sacks, and 2-3 INTs a year from him in order to justify the selection. Yes he's played well, but 5th overall pick well? I want more playmaking from him and I want the coaches to use him more effectively than they did last season.

neko4
06-02-2008, 10:36 PM
Oh yes, I was. 09 would be next year. I'll change the title to 08 then.


Jolly more than broke out last year.

Same thing with Jolly, and what are you people saying Hawk expecting? He's been playing very well since being drafted. I don't understand this whole thought that Hawk's under performing. If you're not happy with what he's done so far you might never be happy. What do you want him to do that he hasn't been doing? What could he possibly do to "break out"?


I just thought he wouldve progressed a little more than he did this year. He's still a great player no doubt about

GB12
06-02-2008, 11:14 PM
How did Jolly break out? He had a good season in his limited playing time but that was nowhere near a breakout season for him IMO.

Hawk was the 5th overall pick, I expect 125+ tackles, 2-3 sacks, and 2-3 INTs a year from him in order to justify the selection. Yes he's played well, but 5th overall pick well? I want more playmaking from him and I want the coaches to use him more effectively than they did last season.
Jolly had a very good season and it wasn't limited playing time. He was the starter and I'm pretty sure only Pickett played a higher percentage of snaps in games they were active in. The injury what took away from his time, but he did more than enough to break out prior to that.

Hawk is not going to get those numbers, but it has nothing to do with how well he's playing. He doesn't have to get those numbers each year to justify his selection, that's just dumb. He's not going to get 125+ tackles each year because unlike Patrick Willis in San Francisco he's playing on a good defense with a top LB next to him in Nick Barnett. Put him on a team that he's the only tackler and there's no doubt he could get that, but on this team he won't. He's not going to get many sacks because he doesn't blitz much. Kind of hard to do if he doesn't have the chance. And INTs as a linebacker can not be expected. He has been good in coverage, INTs are a bonus, but do not mean much in terms of how good a player is. 2-3 INTs a year is a lot to expect from a LB. Al Harris only gets 2-3 a year.

johbur
06-02-2008, 11:58 PM
Hmmm... Beyond the obvious in Rodgers, I'm saying Offense: Brandon Jackson. Defense: Will Blackmon.

GB12
06-03-2008, 12:27 AM
Hmmm... Beyond the obvious in Rodgers, I'm saying Offense: Brandon Jennings. Defense: Will Blackmon.
You kind of combined two there which one did you mean?


As for my pick for this season then I'm going to say Brady Poppinga. I think the competition of having Chillar there as well as another year of experience at linebacker will cause him to make some big improvements.

johbur
06-03-2008, 01:35 AM
Brandon Jackson on offense is my break-out guy. I see him being a solid backup to Grant, good in the passing game and evil on special teams.

I was thinking of Jennings, but he's already broken out, though I was thinking he still has room for growth.

Kampman for President
06-03-2008, 06:01 PM
Jolly had a very good season and it wasn't limited playing time. He was the starter and I'm pretty sure only Pickett played a higher percentage of snaps in games they were active in. The injury what took away from his time, but he did more than enough to break out prior to that.

Hawk is not going to get those numbers, but it has nothing to do with how well he's playing. He doesn't have to get those numbers each year to justify his selection, that's just dumb. He's not going to get 125+ tackles each year because unlike Patrick Willis in San Francisco he's playing on a good defense with a top LB next to him in Nick Barnett. Put him on a team that he's the only tackler and there's no doubt he could get that, but on this team he won't. He's not going to get many sacks because he doesn't blitz much. Kind of hard to do if he doesn't have the chance. And INTs as a linebacker can not be expected. He has been good in coverage, INTs are a bonus, but do not mean much in terms of how good a player is. 2-3 INTs a year is a lot to expect from a LB. Al Harris only gets 2-3 a year.

Aside from Pickett we didn't have a set starter alongside him. Its was rotational all season long.

Barnett has gotten those numbers every year of his career. How is it not reasonable to expect Hawk to acheive the same?

No shitt, I know how our defense works. Your weakside LB is supposed to be the one making plays, blitzing, ect.. Like I said, we aren't utilizing him enough.

Hence why I picked him as a breakout player this year.

the dude
06-03-2008, 06:23 PM
ill say Allen Barbre & Tramon Williams

umphrey
06-03-2008, 08:15 PM
Aside from Pickett we didn't have a set starter alongside him. Its was rotational all season long.

Most likely, we would prefer a rotation to keep players fresh, and perhaps use pass rushers in pass rushing situations, etc.

Barnett has gotten those numbers every year of his career. How is it not reasonable to expect Hawk to acheive the same?

Because he plays a different position where it isn't nearly as easy to rack up tackle numbers. He does other things.

No shitt, I know how our defense works. Your weakside LB is supposed to be the one making plays, blitzing, ect.. Like I said, we aren't utilizing him enough.

How our defense works or how you think it should work? We don't blitz Hawk much at all. I don't disagree that we aren't utilizing him enough, but we should play to his strengths. If he isn't a good blitzer we shouldn't blitz him much. Maybe we aren't featuring him is because he is only solid in most attributes right now.

Kampman for President
06-03-2008, 08:28 PM
Most likely, we would prefer a rotation to keep players fresh, and perhaps use pass rushers in pass rushing situations, etc.


Exactally, so how did he "break out" when he was used in a rotation? We saw glipses of his talent, but not a breakout season.

Because he plays a different position where it isn't nearly as easy to rack up tackle numbers. He does other things.

Sorry but Hawk is on the field just as much as Barnett is. I suggest looking around the NFL because most WLBers rack up the kind of stats that I listed.

How our defense works or how you think it should work? We don't blitz Hawk much at all. I don't disagree that we aren't utilizing him enough, but we should play to his strengths. If he isn't a good blitzer we shouldn't blitz him much. Maybe we aren't featuring him is because he is only solid in most attributes right now.

How it works. We rarely blitz period. Hawk is a good blitzer though, look at what he did at Ohio State.

You guys are acting like I said that Hawk is bad, which he isn't. He's played well for us but IMO you're a damn fool if you think Hawk has played up to his potential. This guy can and will be much better, which is why 08 will be his BREAKOUT season. Get over yourselves already...

ikabaad
06-08-2008, 03:51 PM
James Jones
Collins/Rouse whoever wins that battle

Jones and Rodgers have that 2nd string bond, hopefully that will come in handy on 3rd downs.

Kampman for President
06-08-2008, 03:56 PM
James Jones
Collins/Rouse whoever wins that battle

Jones and Rodgers have that 2nd string bond, hopefully that will come in handy on 3rd downs.


I hope you're right about the safeties. Personally I'd rather see Rouse back there. Collins just hasn't developed enough for me and I'd rather see him go back to CB.

Jones IMO already had a breakout season. I mean he put up great numbers for a #3 WR last year. With adding Jordy Nelson this year I think that might take away some of his opportunities as we try to work him in a little bit this year.

Remember too that Favre was given off for alot of the practices in order to keep him fresh for gamedays so Rodgers does have ALOT of experience running with the 1st unit.

ikabaad
06-08-2008, 04:28 PM
I would rather it be Rouse as well, he is a playmaker.

I enjoy having WR problems of this variety.

Kampman for President
06-08-2008, 04:48 PM
I would rather it be Rouse as well, he is a playmaker.

I enjoy having WR problems of this variety.

Same here man, if Rouse can become a good coverage man we will have gotten a steal in the 3rd round. He had 1st round potential but didn't have a great senior season. Collins has showed flashes but he's too inconsistant. Both guys can lay the lumber though.

I think our WRs are set for a long time. Jennings is developing in a star, Jones was great last year and gave us exactally what we needed, Nelson is alot like Driver, and Swain looks like he has some potential as well. We're in good shape for whenever Driver hangs em' up.

neko4
06-08-2008, 04:57 PM
Dont forget Ruvell Martin. He has great size which gives him some potential.

Kampman for President
06-08-2008, 05:32 PM
Dont forget Ruvell Martin. He has great size which gives him some potential.

He's been good for us, but Nelson's size kind of eliminates the need for Martin. I think the final WR spot goes down to Martin and Swain though.

ikabaad
06-08-2008, 06:35 PM
I like Martin. he is one of my underdogs that I always want to do well. I agree with KFP, Swain or Martin. I think that the amount of "comfort" TT and co feel with the other WRs above them on the depth chart may encourage them to take a chance with some potential in Swain as opposed to what they know for sure they have in Martin. And like I said, I like the guy.

Kampman for President
06-08-2008, 07:55 PM
I like Martin. he is one of my underdogs that I always want to do well. I agree with KFP, Swain or Martin. I think that the amount of "comfort" TT and co feel with the other WRs above them on the depth chart may encourage them to take a chance with some potential in Swain as opposed to what they know for sure they have in Martin. And like I said, I like the guy.

The coaches compared Swain to Wes Welker too which is a mighty compliment. If he shows good hands and can play special teams I think he'll have a real chance to surplant Martin this year.

With Driver, Jennings, Jones, and Nelson already locked in its not like we'd be counting on our 5th WR to contribute much anyways. I'd like to see Finley used in some 4 and 5 WR sets. His size and speed could be a real mismatch against the smaller DBs.

Favre4ever
06-09-2008, 08:25 PM
Same here man, if Rouse can become a good coverage man we will have gotten a steal in the 3rd round. He had 1st round potential but didn't have a great senior season. Collins has showed flashes but he's too inconsistant. Both guys can lay the lumber though.

I think our WRs are set for a long time. Jennings is developing in a star, Jones was great last year and gave us exactally what we needed, Nelson is alot like Driver, and Swain looks like he has some potential as well. We're in good shape for whenever Driver hangs em' up.

Rouse is already a better cover man than Collins. He had 2 picks in three games started and he could have had more. He has the potential to become something special with his size and speed. The organization is already in love with him, they will give him every opportunity to start this year, im sure of that.

neko4
06-09-2008, 08:30 PM
Dont forgot, Collins had quite a few drops. So i dont necesarrily think Rouse has better coverage skills, but better hands

Kampman for President
06-09-2008, 09:15 PM
Rouse is already a better cover man than Collins. He had 2 picks in three games started and he could have had more. He has the potential to become something special with his size and speed. The organization is already in love with him, they will give him every opportunity to start this year, im sure of that.

I wouldn't say he's a better cover man just yet, that was the knock on Rouse coming out of college. Mainly because of his size.

I think the majority of Packers fans want Rouse to start over Collins. If we can see it, then surely the coaches and staff can too.

The Legend
06-09-2008, 09:42 PM
Offense : Allen Barbre, Brandon Jackson
Defense : Aaron Rouse, Johnny Jolly

ikabaad
06-22-2008, 01:55 PM
Montgomery has been getting a good look @ DE so far, reports have been positive. That, to me, has been the shocker of this boring a$$ time of year. That he looks good. He must be making a leap from the blah I have seen from him when he got on the field in the past.

All this talk of Taylor is really silly. I don't see it happening. He's too "pretty" for the cold. IMO, he may be a 10 sack guy. But we already have two of those @ DE. His play has dropped off, so he is no "real upgrade" over KGB.

I like the vibe that this team gives off. Young, confident, the elders are there and ready to go. Love the coaches for the most part, the front office. I think we are going to see a stretch of successful years in GB.

Can't wait until they strap on the pads.

Kampman for President
06-22-2008, 02:04 PM
Montgomery has been getting a good look @ DE so far, reports have been positive. That, to me, has been the shocker of this boring a$$ time of year. That he looks good. He must be making a leap from the blah I have seen from him when he got on the field in the past.

All this talk of Taylor is really silly. I don't see it happening. He's too "pretty" for the cold. IMO, he may be a 10 sack guy. But we already have two of those @ DE. His play has dropped off, so he is no "real upgrade" over KGB.

I like the vibe that this team gives off. Young, confident, the elders are there and ready to go. Love the coaches for the most part, the front office. I think we are going to see a stretch of successful years in GB.

Can't wait until they strap on the pads.

Good points.

I like Montgomery but he's never shown that ability to be a future starter for us. He is in a contract year as well which is probably why we moved up to get Jermey Thompson. I read somewhere on someone sports writers blog that Thompson looked like he was ready to contribute as a pass rusher this year and maybe even on early downs.

I'd like to add Taylor but I don't view that as a need. I think it more so had to do with all the injuries at the DT position. That way we could move Jenkins back in to keep our depth intact. But either way KGB is still cheaper and coupled with Jenkins we basically get the same effect. I also think that Jenkins will be better now that he's 100% healthy. Remember the preseason? He looked like a beast.

umphrey
06-22-2008, 10:17 PM
There are seemingly countless reasons why Taylor won't be coming to GB. If Montgomery really did step up for us it would really help, since Thompson isn't gonna be ready this year IMO.

Greg Jennings FTW!
07-02-2008, 10:16 PM
I don't think BJax because he'll be stuck behind Grant even though I think Brandon has a higher ceiling than Ryan. I say James Jones because when I watched last year's preseason it really looked like James was Aaron's favorite target even when Driver and Jennings were on the field. JerMichael Finley wont break out but he's a guy I can see getting in some nice plays. Allen Barbre will be our LG and shore up that position, he will be our best interior lineman I predict. Defense- Tramon Williams at Nickle, this kid is a stud. Justin Harrell will also have a good season I predict he looked much better than Corey Williams in the limited action he saw last year and he really did a great job closing running lanes and playing with proper pad level.


So again, that is - Offense: James Jones, Allen Barbre. Defense: Tramon Williams, Justin Harrell.