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LonghornsLegend
05-15-2008, 06:55 PM
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=11&entry_id=26540


Yayyyy:D


Might be old to you guys so sorry if so, but it says Wilson will be playing more in the box, which wasn't Huff's strong suit, he is a free range type of FS, now that he is finally in a more natural position I have big expectations for this seconary, I really hope it can stay together for some time.


Look for Huff to be a playmaker, he has great awareness, instincts, and has a nose for the ball...With 2 great cover corners he should have some chances to be a playmaker finally...Great decision by Oakland, always bothered me that he was being asked 2 be in the box.

Scotty D
05-15-2008, 07:10 PM
Best secondary ever with that move.

KCJ58
05-15-2008, 07:16 PM
Michael Huff DeAngelo Hall Gibril Wilson Nnamdi Asomugha


WOW!

slightlyaraiderfan
05-15-2008, 08:40 PM
Russell says he is "down" to 269, fatty.

Bengals78
05-15-2008, 08:45 PM
Russell says he is "down" to 269, fatty.

hey its a gland disorder and he is big boned...lol jk

PACKmanN
05-15-2008, 08:45 PM
LMAO, Harris at LT? LOL, have a good time being on your behind Russell.

LonghornsLegend
05-15-2008, 08:53 PM
Best secondary ever with that move.

Your avatar really screws with me, in so many different ways.

RaiderNation
05-15-2008, 08:59 PM
If he can play to his potenial this year, we will have the best secondary in the league. All we need to do is somehow resign Asomougha

Paranoidmoonduck
05-17-2008, 04:22 PM
I'm holding off judgment on Huff. He's gotten progressively less aggressive as time has gone on, which I think played a big part in the selection of Branch in this past draft.

Keep in mind that Huff did not play a free safety position in college. He was an in the box guy and man coverage guy all the way. How he takes to his new position is yet to be seen.

d34ng3l021
05-17-2008, 04:57 PM
Huff is going to beast it.

LonghornsLegend
05-25-2008, 04:40 PM
I'm holding off judgment on Huff. He's gotten progressively less aggressive as time has gone on, which I think played a big part in the selection of Branch in this past draft.

Keep in mind that Huff did not play a free safety position in college. He was an in the box guy and man coverage guy all the way. How he takes to his new position is yet to be seen.


Technically no he wasn't listed as a FS, but essentially he played as one for us...Fact is we had two FS back there(the other being Michael Griffin), but Huff still wasn't asked to do the same things he was when he got to the NFL, which is take on blockers and the tight end, being in close space and not being able to use his instincts and athleticism to make plays...You are right he did play lots of man which is why FS suits him better, he can slide down and cover a slot WR, make play in the open field, and he can fill in the box...I just don't think you want to ask him to be in the box the entire game taking on guys who outweigh him by 60 lbs, your not really getting a chance to see him use his athleticism to the fullest extent.


I'm not going to act like moving him to FS makes him a pro bowler, but I did happen to meet him back in Irving, Texas(where he's from originally) at the gym I worked at, and he voiced alot of displeasure in his role and what he was asked to do, its alot different then what he was doing at Texas and he wasn't comfortable in that role...When you have guys feeling that way they over think things, and just don't let the game come naturally...If you switch Huff's role to something similiar to how Michael Griffin is used for the Titans in the secondary I think you would see a big difference, Griffin has been a damn good FS thus far and anyone who saw the two play throughout college could tell you Huff is the superior safety in every aspect...I assume he is just as happy about the switch and this year will be a big one for him as well, but with two corners who can play man on an island, I believe if you let him play some centerfielder you will see completely different results.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-25-2008, 05:41 PM
My only point is that in college, Huff was rarely ever a centerfielder and he was never much of an interception threat. Most of his big plays came in tight coverage within the first ten yards or breaking up option plays in the backfield. Obviously, once the guys got bigger and faster he couldn't do the same sort of thing, so the move will be good for him. But the best thing he's done to date is cover tight ends, which he won't be able to do as a free safety.

I think the Wilson signing may pose more benefit for Huff than any other move Oakland could have made, but I want to see Huff take that centerfield role and make it his, because I have no memory of him every being asked to do it before.

BaLLiN
05-25-2008, 05:52 PM
Wilson is pretty bad in coverage, he makes some interceptions but really not a threat either. He makes alot of tackles but thats mainly due to our linebackers and all of our DBs being average, so don't look for him to be as productive as his last season.

I think he'll land somewhere near 3 INTs, 60 tackles, maybe 2 FF, 12 PBD. he's good but not great.

Stash
05-25-2008, 11:29 PM
Wilson is pretty bad in coverage, he makes some interceptions but really not a threat either. He makes alot of tackles but thats mainly due to our linebackers and all of our DBs being average, so don't look for him to be as productive as his last season.

I think he'll land somewhere near 3 INTs, 60 tackles, maybe 2 FF, 12 PBD. he's good but not great.

Good but not great is a huge improvement over Shweigert so i'll be happy if thats the case.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-26-2008, 01:33 AM
Wilson is pretty bad in coverage, he makes some interceptions but really not a threat either. He makes alot of tackles but thats mainly due to our linebackers and all of our DBs being average, so don't look for him to be as productive as his last season.

I think he'll land somewhere near 3 INTs, 60 tackles, maybe 2 FF, 12 PBD. he's good but not great.

From what I've seen, he's above average in man coverage, and he's probably built better to battle guys like Gonzalez and Gates. I think he ends up playing closer to the line unless the front seven shows some major improvement, but I think he's probably best in that role.

LonghornsLegend
05-26-2008, 02:57 AM
My only point is that in college, Huff was rarely ever a centerfielder and he was never much of an interception threat. Most of his big plays came in tight coverage within the first ten yards or breaking up option plays in the backfield. Obviously, once the guys got bigger and faster he couldn't do the same sort of thing, so the move will be good for him. But the best thing he's done to date is cover tight ends, which he won't be able to do as a free safety.

I think the Wilson signing may pose more benefit for Huff than any other move Oakland could have made, but I want to see Huff take that centerfield role and make it his, because I have no memory of him every being asked to do it before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLYSTKcmXs


Notice at 27 seconds, 56 secs, 1:16(especially here shows how great he is in open space) for a few of the plays where he was lined up as the centerfielder, he was a much better tackler then Griffin was an I agree majority of his plays were made up close, but he still made alot of plays sitting back deep or covering a corner...He was a guy who was considered a S/CB tweener coming out so obviously you wan't to put him in more situations where he can cover more and still come up and make plays...Just because he made alo of plays close to the LOS doesn't mean he lined up there to start every play, that highlight tape highlights him before alot of plays so you can see where he was lined up at so you get a better feel...It's not like it will be a bad thing having a FS who can come up and support the run, but either way the SS role in Oakland is alot different then what he was doing at Texas.


He had more freedom in our defense which is why I say "centerfielder", he would sit back alot of plays, read and react and come up to make the play...His last year he had 5 INT's and two returned for TD's, which is pretty good considering Phillips had 6 this year and how many plays he made in the backfield to go along with it...I believe he should of been a FS all along, he has the frame, speed, and instincts to play it, putting him at SS isn't giving him the same type of freedom to roam as he did his senior season, even if you don't want to call it the centerfielder.

Sveen
05-26-2008, 06:36 AM
DeAngelo Hall, Nnamdi Asomugha, Gibril Wilson, Michael Huff

Wow.

RaiderNation
05-26-2008, 02:47 PM
DeAngelo Hall, Nnamdi Asomugha, Gibril Wilson, Michael Huff

Wow.

cant wait for madden 09 to come out. defence is going to be nasty, plus my running game is gonna get 2x better with Run DMC and then walker will help me alot.

doingthisinsteadofwork
05-26-2008, 09:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqLYSTKcmXs

He had more freedom in our defense which is why I say "centerfielder", he would sit back alot of plays, read and react and come up to make the play...His last year he had 5 INT's and two returned for TD's, which is pretty good considering Phillips had 6 this year and how many plays he made in the backfield to go along with it...I believe he should of been a FS all along, he has the frame, speed, and instincts to play it, putting him at SS isn't giving him the same type of freedom to roam as he did his senior season, even if you don't want to call it the centerfielder.Nice vid.
Stu was playing the centerfielder role. And thats the role that Huff will most likely be playing this year.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-26-2008, 10:40 PM
...words...

Oakland's strong safety position actually isn't all that different than the role Huff had at Texas, he just came to realization that NFL players weren't going down like they had in college and became a lot less aggressive.

The role he'll be asked to play, Stuart Schwiegert's role the last few years, is a real centerfielder role, which is way different than what he did at Texas. He's going to be relied as the guy making the deep open field tackles (something that Stu was exposed as not being all that great at), and he'll have to play deep zone coverage more often than not.

I'm not sure your numbers are correct. Last time I checked, Huff had only 2 interceptions his senior campaign, and only totaled 8 during his college career. Juxtapose this with Ed Reed's college career at Miami (since Huff was compared to Reed a lot), where he posted 21 interceptions. Huff has never really been a great ballhawk except when playing tight man coverage, which won't be helped by playing free safety. I still think he might end up being the best fit at cornerback.