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scottyboy
05-18-2008, 01:01 PM
we recently finished up an NBA salary cap draft where the cap was set at 58 mil. We had 12 picks, one being a free rookie. Your duty is to vote for the best team in a 3 year dynasty. Not too hard, right?

here's are the teams with some explanations:

saintsfan912: Hornets

Hornets Depth Chart:

PG - Raymond Felton/DJ Augustin
SG - Caron Butler/Ben Gordon/Rashad McCants
SF - Kevin Durant/Julian Wright
PF - David West/Andrea Bargnani
C - Emeka Okafor/Tyson Chandler/Spencer Hawes

Perfect running team. Very athletic team with plenty of scoring and defense. Very young too, should win for years.


princefielder

Depth Chart

PG : Steve Nash | Jerryd Bayless | Daniel Gibson
SG : Brandon Roy | Nick Young | Daniel Gibson
SF : Rudy *** | Jeff Green
PF : Kevin Garnett | David Lee | Paul Millsap | Andray Blatche
C : Al Horford | Andray Blatche

Paul

Roster/Depth Chart
PG: Jameer Nelson/OJ Mayo/ Delonte West
SG: Dwayne Wade/JR Smith/ OJ Mayo
SF: Lebron James/ Marvin Williams/JR Smith
PF: Carlos Boozer/Brandon Bass/Carl Landry
C: Andrew Bogut/DeSagana Diop/Carl Landry


Strengths: A number of Scoring options on offense. Young, Athletic, Quick and Explosive.
Weaknesses: Lack of a true PG; Lack of a defense stopper on the perimeter; Only one real quality low post scorer.

Salaries
1. Lebron James - $13,041,250
2. Carlos Boozer - $11,593,816
3. Jameer Nelson - $1,961,609
4. Andre Bogut - $4,991,520
5. JR Smith - $1,641,661
6. OJ Mayo - $ Free
7. Brandon Bass - $770,610
8. Carl Landry - $427,163
9. Dwyane Wade - $13,041,250
10. Marvin Williams - $4,466,040
11. DeSagana Diop - $2,146,000
12. Delonte West - $1,889,759


brownstown:

Final roster:

PG - Derrick Rose, $0
SG - Kobe Bryant, $19,490,625
SF - Gerald Wallace, 9,500,000
PF - 1st year: Rasheed Wallace, $12,540,000, onward: Greg Oden, $4,662,000
C - Andrew Bynum, $2,172,000

Bench
6th man - PF/C - 1st year: Greg Oden, $4,662,000, onward: Rasheed Wallace, $12,540,000
PF/C Jason Maxiell, $1,041,360
SF/PF - Ryan Gomes, $770,610
PG/SG - Randy Foye, $2,631,840
SG - Sasha Vujacic, $1,756,951
PF - Brandan Wright, $2,323,080
SG/SF - Arron Afflalo, $944,520

Strategy: Defense, defense, defense and more defense. Wallace, Kobe, and Rose are all excellent man defenders, and all 4 post men play defense wonderfully. Let Kobe create on offense and rotate in bench shooters a lot. Can take out Kobe or Rose and let the other handle the ball, as both can create, distribute, and shoot. Use 4 starter-quality big man to keep everyone on fresh legs and create matchup problems.




DJC
(has really long writeup in the actual draft thread, if you wanna read it)

Starting Line-up

C - Chris Kaman ($8,600,000)
PF - Amare Stoudemire ($13,762,775)
SF - Michael Beasley ($0)
SG - Kevin Martin ($1,808,121)
PG - Tony Parker ($10,500,000)

6 - Manu Ginobili, SG($9,079,811)
7 - Leandro Barbosa ($6,500,000)
8 - Yi Jianlian, PF/C ($2,777,760)
9 - Jamario Moon, SF ($427,163)
10 - Craig Smith, PF ($687,456)
11 - Mike Conley, Jr., PG ($3,377,160)
12 - Glen Davis, PF/C ($427,163)

Rotation - 1st year
Position - Name - (Minutes)
C - Chris Kaman (36) / Yi Jianlian (12)
PF - Amare Stoudemire (36) / Michael Beasley (12)
SF - Michael Beasley (20) / Manu Ginobili (22) / Jamario Moon (8)
SG - Kevin Martin (34) / Manu Ginobili (8) / Leandro Barbosa (6)
PG - Tony Parker (34) / Leandro Barbosa (14)
Reserves - Mike Conley, Craig Smith, Glen Davis

Total - $57,947,409
Remaining - $52,591


thetedginnshow

The Starting Five

PG Deron Williams 4,010,640
SG Monta Ellis 770,610
SF Carmelo Anthony 13,041,250
PF Pau Gasol 13,709,375
C Yao Ming 13,762,775


The Bench

PG Rajon Rondo 1,372,320
SG Juan Carlos Navarro 538,090
Nicolas Batum $0
SF Thaddeus Young 1,830,720
PF Luis Scola 2,910,000
Charlie Villanueva 2,715,000
C Andris Biedrins 2,636,695


Lions Double You Em Dee:
PG: Devin Harris, $3,995,003
SG: Rip Hamilton, $9,750,000
SF: Danny Granger, $1,516,800
PF: Chris Bosh, $13,041,250
C: Dwight Howard, $6,061,273

PF: Chris Wilcox, $6,500,000
SF: Al Thornton, $1,652, 280
SG: Ronnie Brewer, $1,715,040
C: Brook Lopez, $0
SF: Shane Battier, $5,883,600
SG: Stephen Jackson, $6,630,000
PG: Kyle Lowry, $1,087,680


RoyHall#1:

1: Al Jefferson
2: Josh Smith
3: Joe Johnson
4. Jose Calderon
5: Luol Deng
6: Dirk Nowitzki
7: Hedo Turkgolu
8: Linas Kleiza
9: Ramon Session
10: Darrel Arthur
11: Tyrus Thomas
12: Udonis Haslem


scottyboy:

C: Lamarcus Aldridge- $4,329,360
PF: Tim Duncan- $19,014,187
SF: Andre Iguodala- 2,804,889
SG: Tracy McGrady- $19,014,187
PG: Chris Paul- $2,804,889
BENCH:
PF/C Sean Williams- $1,416,600
C: Deandre Jordan- FREE!
PG/SG: Quincy Douby $1,333,920
PF: Ronny Turiaf- $770,610
C: Nenad Krstic- $1,889,759
SF: Hakim Warrick- $1,376,040
SG/SF: Corey Brewer- $2,535,720

Excellent starting 5 that can run with CP3 leading it with Iggy and T-Mac running the break with him. Duncan grabs the boards and Aldridge is the athletic big to run with them. We can also slow it down with CP3, Duncan and T-Mac. Off the bench is more athleticism to run with Sean Williams who is also alot of energy and excellent D off the bench. Jordan can also run and is an athletic big who will thrive with CP3 feeding him and complimenting Duncan. Nenad and Ronny are nice slow it down bigs to get some boards and give Duncan and the other bigs breathers. Brewer and Warrick are excellent wings in our run-n-gun offense in up-tempo games. Douby is the super sweet backup PG/SG who can spell CP3 and also be the spark plug off the bench with 3's.

diabsoule
05-18-2008, 01:02 PM
What? No Poll?

scottyboy
05-18-2008, 01:05 PM
What? No Poll?

this ones got a poll. you probably posted while i was putting it in

saintsfan912
05-18-2008, 01:23 PM
I wanted to vote for myself but scotty's team is awesome.

scottyboy
05-18-2008, 01:25 PM
I wanted to vote for myself but scotty's team is awesome.

well i feel honored, but I like your team personally along with my own and Pauls. I may vote, I'll think about it.

wow, 5 votes, and only one person(saintsfan912) posted. I wanna hear peoples opinions and reasons

BrownsTown
05-18-2008, 01:25 PM
I love scotty's team, but that bench is ridiculously bad.

Chucky
05-18-2008, 01:26 PM
Right now for me it is between DJC, Royhall and TTGS. Scotty your bench is just beyond awful.

saintsfan912
05-18-2008, 01:26 PM
Well I am a little biased towards the best player in the NBA, Chris Paul.

scottyboy
05-18-2008, 01:26 PM
I love scotty's team, but that bench is ridiculously bad.

yea, that kinda hurt me picking too many bigs. But when you have 2 Nets players, a lottery pick and a Rutgers player, it can't be all that bad

saintsfan912
05-18-2008, 01:27 PM
I do like my depth though. 4 legit NBA starters on my bench and 1 future starter(Ju Ju).

BrownsTown
05-18-2008, 01:28 PM
yea, that kinda hurt me picking too many bigs. But when you have 2 Nets players, a lottery pick and a Rutgers player, it can't be all that bad

That really hurt you. Douby, Williams and Krstic are average. The starters would be playing heavy, heavy minutes.

scottyboy
05-18-2008, 01:34 PM
That really hurt you. Douby, Williams and Krstic are average. The starters would be playing heavy, heavy minutes.

well Paul already plays a fair amount of minutes, but Douby could easily spell him. Brewer can spell T-Mac easy, and Iggy could always slide down to the 2 guard, and have Warrick or Brewer take that 3 spot. I'd have a pretty nasty big rotation though.

BrownsTown
05-18-2008, 01:37 PM
well Paul already plays a fair amount of minutes, but Douby could easily spell him. Brewer can spell T-Mac easy, and Iggy could always slide down to the 2 guard, and have Warrick or Brewer take that 3 spot. I'd have a pretty nasty big rotation though.

You'd have the nets big man rotation with Krstic and Williams, plus Turiaf. Not nasty at all, IMO. Brewer had an awful rookie season and Warrick is athletic but is a bit underwhelming. And I think you might be overrated Douby a tad ;)

scottyboy
05-18-2008, 01:39 PM
You'd have the nets big man rotation with Krstic and Williams, plus Turiaf. Not nasty at all, IMO. Brewer had an awful rookie season and Warrick is athletic but is a bit underwhelming. And I think you might be overrated Douby a tad ;)

WHAT!!?!?!???!??!!! over rating Douby? he's the only good person in RU men's b-ball history!!! Williams and Jordan are good athletes for some run-n-gun style. Nenad is a starter, so having him coming off the bench is pretty good, but yes, it could be a bit better. But IMO, I've got the best starting 5.(and the weakest bench prob)

Pacific
05-18-2008, 01:43 PM
I voted PF28. His starting 5 is amazing and he has good depth. Honorable mention to Scotty.

princefielder28
05-18-2008, 01:46 PM
I voted PF28. His starting 5 is amazing and he has good depth. Honorable mention to Scotty.

thank you...

saintsfan912
05-18-2008, 01:57 PM
And all of you are lucky I didn't get Wade.

OSUGiants17
05-18-2008, 02:14 PM
WMD has Lopez so he wins, jk. BT or Paul gets my vote.

Shane P. Hallam
05-18-2008, 03:13 PM
I like scottyboy's and Pauls a lot. both great teams...

BeerBaron
05-18-2008, 03:43 PM
i went brownstown. liking the defense and the starting guards

WMD
05-18-2008, 04:35 PM
Pfft.. Nobody can beat the Dwight Howard/Chris Bosh combo.

Chucky
05-18-2008, 04:38 PM
Pfft.. Nobody can beat the Dwight Howard/Chris Bosh combo.

While I do love that inside outside big man combo, some of your picks were questionable. Rip Hamilton over Manu?? The 6.5 mil you spent on wilcox could have been much better spent. I like the Battier pick a lot though, he is a great player to have on a team

WMD
05-18-2008, 04:48 PM
While I do love that inside outside big man combo, some of your picks were questionable. Rip Hamilton over Manu?? The 6.5 mil you spent on wilcox could have been much better spent. I like the Battier pick a lot though, he is a great player to have on a team

I thought he'd be a better compliment to Dwight, Bosh and Harris.. plus, I just don't like Manu.

yo123
05-18-2008, 06:05 PM
PF28's team is getting overlooked, although his bench is pretty weak. Overall, I would pick TTGS. I have no idea how he managed to put together that starting lineup, and Biedrins and Rondo are both great guys to bring off the bench.

RoyHall#1
05-18-2008, 07:55 PM
PF28's team is getting overlooked, although his bench is pretty weak. Overall, I would pick TTGS. I have no idea how he managed to put together that starting lineup, and Biedrins and Rondo are both great guys to bring off the bench.

Speaking of team's getting overlooked... damn. I thought I raped this draft.

BeerBaron
05-18-2008, 07:56 PM
albeit i don't know my basketball like i do football, i just don't see the fuss over scottyboy's team outside of chris paul really.

i thought brownstown had it down

BrownsTown
05-18-2008, 08:19 PM
albeit i don't know my basketball like i do football, i just don't see the fuss over scottyboy's team outside of chris paul really.

i thought brownstown had it down

This guy, he's smart.

Jensen
05-18-2008, 08:49 PM
I thought PF28, Paul, and BT had the best teams. Really hard for me to choose one, but I went with BT. Rose and Kobe are a great backcourt, I'm a big fan of Gerald Wallace, Bynum looks like a blooming star, and Wallace and Oden should make a good tandem. Bench looks pretty well, and like BT said, a great defensive team.

thetedginnshow
05-18-2008, 10:15 PM
IMO, my team and RoyHall's are the best with potentially DJC next are the best by a fair margin. In these though, people don't tend to look through the entire depth charts and gravitate to a player such as Kobe, LeBron, or Paul and choose them over everyone else based on the assumption a team with one of those guys will instantly make the team the best. It's funny though because I was under the impression scotty had one of the worst teams of anyone.

Chucky
05-18-2008, 10:16 PM
IMO, my team and RoyHall's are the best with potentially DJC next are the best by a fair margin. In these though, people don't tend to look through the entire depth charts and gravitate to a player such as Kobe, LeBron, or Paul and choose them over everyone else based on the assumption a team with one of those guys will instantly make the team the best. It's funny though because I was under the impression scotty had one of the worst teams of anyone.

I voted for you TTGS, even though your team does have some major flaws. I also find it funny that that rant came from someone with yau, melo and deron

saintsfan912
05-18-2008, 10:20 PM
Dang this sucks. I thought I put together a damn good team and I'm the only one with no votes. Oh well.

thetedginnshow
05-18-2008, 10:22 PM
I voted for you TTGS, even though your team does have some major flaws. I also find it funny that that rant came from someone with yau, melo and deron

Oh yeah? How so (as for why it's funny)?

Chucky
05-18-2008, 10:23 PM
Oh yeah? How so (as for why it's funny)?

I find irony funny.

thetedginnshow
05-18-2008, 10:30 PM
I find irony funny.

Haha. Way to explain. But it'd be ironic if people were voting for me.

WMD
05-18-2008, 10:33 PM
I think he means that you've got Yao/Melo/Deron and will get votes based on their name recognition rather than how well they would fit together.

thetedginnshow
05-18-2008, 10:41 PM
I think he means that you've got Yao/Melo/Deron and will get votes based on their name recognition rather than how well they would fit together.

Yeah, that's why I said what I said. Nevermind though that no one likes Melo here and Deron and Yao get underrated. But it doesn't matter all too much.

Chucky
05-18-2008, 10:43 PM
Yeah, that's why I said what I said. Nevermind though that no one likes Melo here and Deron and Yao get underrated. But it doesn't matter all too much.

Deron gets underrated?? People in the NBA thread were calling him the second best PG in the game

D-Unit
05-19-2008, 02:16 PM
SF912 vs PF
Winner: PF
Reason: These two GMs built their teams with different strategies. PF's team has a stronger starting 5, but SF's team has a stronger bench. In a 5 year dynasty competition, I would've given the edge to SF, however, I still think that PF's team would beat SF's team over the next 2 out of 3 years as Nash and Garnett are not washed up yet. The veteran leadership is in place and there is a nice mixture of veterans and young guns. The Hornets are just not ready to beat this PF's team.

Paul vs BT
Winner: Paul
Reason: This is a real battle here, but in the end, the combination of D-Wade and Lebron simply amount to too much for Kobe and gang to handle. I like how Paul covered up his PG size issues by selecting Mayo who will probably end up being the starting PG. Boozer and Bogut are more than adequate complimentary post players. Both benches grade out similarly. BT's team appears very strong defensively, but the team can't match up offensively. Kobe is the only real proven threat for scoring. Bynum and Oden are both question marks returning from injury and the bench is weak in the post area.

DJC vs TTGS
Winner: DJC
Reason: Balanced, Powerful, Deep. I like the make up of this team from top to bottom. The only question mark I have from this team is who will emerge as the team's "go to" guy. There are a lot of players who are key complimentary players on good teams, but who will the team lean on? Not the biggest worry to have in the world, so I'm just nitpicking there. TTGS has a competing starting 5 rotation but the bench might be the weakest of all teams. Ming is coming back from injury and Monta is inadequate defensively at the 2 guard spot and there's no backup for him.

WMD vs Roy
Ugh... I just realized there were 9 teams and match ups won't work now for grading.

saintsfan912
05-19-2008, 02:20 PM
Great write up man.

Agree with your comments on my matchup. We will be great in a year or 2, just not yet. If I would have gotten Wade it would be a different story though.

RoyHall#1
05-19-2008, 02:26 PM
Just give me a bye D!

D-Unit
05-19-2008, 02:48 PM
Just give me a bye D!
Fine, since you asked.

BrownsTown
05-19-2008, 03:08 PM
Bullcrap D. Rose is already an amazing scorer, Wallace is a 20 ppg guy, Bynum and Oden both have above average post games. And when LeBron struggles scoring against Garnett and Perkins, how will he do against a similar defensive post team, with two big shot blockers down low? Oden and Bynum against Boozer and Bogut would be hilarious, neither can defend the post. Biedrins would be playing heavy minutes.

saintsfan912
05-19-2008, 03:09 PM
Rose is already an amazing scorer? Come on BT, he hasn't even seen an NBA floor yet. Morrison and Redick were both huge scorers, look what they are doing now.

BrownsTown
05-19-2008, 03:12 PM
Rose is already an amazing scorer? Come on BT, he hasn't even seen an NBA floor yet. Morrison and Redick were both huge scorers, look what they are doing now.

Rose is one of the most athletic players in recent years, and watching the guy whenever I could, he's an absolutely outstanding finisher. This guy could have made the jump straight from high school and been great immediately.

saintsfan912
05-19-2008, 03:15 PM
I understand where you're coming from but there's no way to tell if he will be an amazing scorer until he hits the floor. The potential is there but to say he is an amazing scorer before he even gets drafted is a little early.

BrownsTown
05-19-2008, 03:17 PM
I understand where you're coming from but there's no way to tell if he will be an amazing scorer until he hits the floor. The potential is there but to say he is an amazing scorer before he even gets drafted is a little early.

It's the same with most of these NBA prospects. For example Kevin Durant. You don't "know" he's going to be an amazing scorer but really the only thing that would keep him from it is if he can't adjust to the game mentally. And that doesn't seem to be a problem with Rose.

D-Unit
05-19-2008, 03:19 PM
WMD vs scottyboy
Wow, two great teams here. Battle of the beasts! This is a game 7 series that might come down to who ever has home court advantage. At first, WMD's front court looks unstoppable. Howard, Bosh, Granger, with Battier, Wilcox, Thornton and Lopez off the bench... are you kidding me?! However, the backcourt took a mild hit because of the heavy investment. On the other hand, scottyboy put together a masterpiece of his own. Having Chris Paul leading the way, this team has a clear floor general who can take advantage of his surrounded talent cast. That's a big advantage over WMD's squad who have Devin Harris at the point. You can have the strongest frontcourt in the world, but they don't control the tempo and flow of the game. They rely on the guys in the backcourt. Both teams are extremely talented, but one team has more killer instinct than the other.
Winner: scottyboy

Teams Advancing:
PF
Paul
DJC
Roy
Scottyboy

Eliminated:
SF912
BT
TTGS
WMD

BrownsTown
05-19-2008, 03:21 PM
Oh I see, Paul has Jameer Nelson. I getchya D ;)

saintsfan912
05-19-2008, 03:30 PM
We should have done a double elimination tourney.

Eagles own the NFC East
05-19-2008, 03:31 PM
Uhhh Paul? His teams offense would be out of this world and the combination of Wade and James is perfect with even more scoring from O.J. Mayo and J.R. Smith off the bench with a good frontcourt of Boozer and Bogut. Seriously no team defensively could shut down all those guys in a given game.

BrownsTown
05-19-2008, 03:32 PM
Uhhh Paul? His teams offense would be out of this world and the combination of Wade and James is perfect with even more scoring from O.J. Mayo and J.R. Smith off the bench with a good frontcourt of Boozer and Bogut. Seriously no team defensively could shut down all those guys in a given game.

............Yo.

D-Unit
05-19-2008, 03:34 PM
Bullcrap D. Rose is already an amazing scorer, Wallace is a 20 ppg guy, Bynum and Oden both have above average post games. And when LeBron struggles scoring against Garnett and Perkins, how will he do against a similar defensive post team, with two big shot blockers down low? Oden and Bynum against Boozer and Bogut would be hilarious, neither can defend the post. Biedrins would be playing heavy minutes.
If your telling me that Rose will be your main scorer from the PG position, then that only reconfirms the reason why your team would lose. Wallace is more Scotty Pippen than Michael Jordan. If he's your guy in the clutch, that's an iffy proposition. Bynum has only shown flashes of potential but he has never sustained consistency and now he's having another surgery. I'm talking real life here, not made up "what if" fantasy. Oden himself has to establish what he will be in the NBA. He is mechanical and limited in what he can do. I wouldn't say he'd dominate Bogut... who you say can't defend, but is actually in the top 10 in blocks. But seriously, Bynum, Oden and Biendrins aren't exactly offensive powerhouses that need to be feared.

BrownsTown
05-19-2008, 07:24 PM
If your telling me that Rose will be your main scorer from the PG position, then that only reconfirms the reason why your team would lose. Wallace is more Scotty Pippen than Michael Jordan. If he's your guy in the clutch, that's an iffy proposition. Bynum has only shown flashes of potential but he has never sustained consistency and now he's having another surgery. I'm talking real life here, not made up "what if" fantasy. Oden himself has to establish what he will be in the NBA. He is mechanical and limited in what he can do. I wouldn't say he'd dominate Bogut... who you say can't defend, but is actually in the top 10 in blocks. But seriously, Bynum, Oden and Biendrins aren't exactly offensive powerhouses that need to be feared.

D-Unit...I have Kobe. He's the Michael Jordan of this team. If Wallace is Scotty Pippen, and Rose is the 3rd option with 15 PPG post players and a good bench, what's wrong with that? Did you forget about Kobe?

*Confused Biedrins with Diop (well actually Paul's team with TTGS's, but the point still stands)

BeerBaron
05-19-2008, 07:33 PM
If your telling me that Rose will be your main scorer from the PG position, then that only reconfirms the reason why your team would lose. Wallace is more Scotty Pippen than Michael Jordan. If he's your guy in the clutch, that's an iffy proposition. Bynum has only shown flashes of potential but he has never sustained consistency and now he's having another surgery. I'm talking real life here, not made up "what if" fantasy. Oden himself has to establish what he will be in the NBA. He is mechanical and limited in what he can do. I wouldn't say he'd dominate Bogut... who you say can't defend, but is actually in the top 10 in blocks. But seriously, Bynum, Oden and Biendrins aren't exactly offensive powerhouses that need to be feared.

D-Unit...I have Kobe. He's the Michael Jordan of this team. If Wallace is Scotty Pippen, and Rose is the 3rd option with 15 PPG post players and a good bench, what's wrong with that? Did you forget about Kobe?

*Confused Biedrins with Diop (well actually Paul's team with TTGS's, but the point still stands)

haha, lol. i like that he just conveniently left kobe out of that.

great defense + kobe = win imnsho

scottyboy
05-19-2008, 07:49 PM
seriously, D once again proves why he's one of my favorite posters, if not my favorite. Not because I won, because I'd be saying this if I lost. He went above and beyond with judging. thanks D.

BeerBaron
05-19-2008, 07:51 PM
seriously, D once again proves why he's one of my favorite posters, if not my favorite. Not because I won, because I'd be saying this if I lost. He went above and beyond with judging. thanks D.

but he completely left out the reason i voted brownstown besides defense and that was the scoring kobe would bring

D-Unit
05-19-2008, 09:19 PM
but he completely left out the reason i voted brownstown besides defense and that was the scoring kobe would bring
...and I'm not saying your vote is wrong. BT has a very good team. You could ask 100 guys which team they like better and you might get a 50% split. I just happen to like Paul's team better over the next 3 years.

I did forget about Kobe in my response, but I didn't forget about Kobe in my judging. BT's team just had more question marks for me.

Qualities I look for:
Does the team have a floor general?
Does the team have a go to guy?
Does the team have the ability to knock down 3s?
Is the team a good free throw shooting team?
Does the team have at least 1 lock down defender on the wings?
Does the team have the ability to create turnovers?
Does the team have a good balance of youth vs experience?
Does the team have post presence?
Heath factor
Clutch factor
Killer Instinct
Depth
Chemistry

After those considerations, I decided I like Paul's team better. But I'm not the final answer. scottyboy asked me to judge and I just threw in my 2 cents. My word is not the end all.

BrownsTown
05-19-2008, 09:36 PM
...and I'm not saying your vote is wrong. BT has a very good team. You could ask 100 guys which team they like better and you might get a 50% split. I just happen to like Paul's team better over the next 3 years.

I did forget about Kobe in my response, but I didn't forget about Kobe in my judging. BT's team just had more question marks for me.

Qualities I look for:
Does the team have a floor general? Rose
Does the team have a go to guy? Kobe
Does the team have the ability to knock down 3s? Both Wallaces, Kobe, Foye, Gomes, Vujacic
Is the team a good free throw shooting team? Well this is a bit difficult, Kobe would be going to the line most and he's good, Rose is average as is Wallace, Oden is above average for a big man.
Does the team have at least 1 lock down defender on the wings? I have like 3,
Does the team have the ability to create turnovers? Gerald Wallace. Nuff said.
Does the team have a good balance of youth vs experience? Rose, Bynum and Oden with Rasheed and Kobe very experienced.
Does the team have post presence? Oden and Bynum. Yea.
Heath factor. You've got me, but come on, Paul has Dwayne Wade.
Clutch factor. Kobe.
Killer Instinct. Kobe.
Depth. Foye, Gomes and Vujacic can score coming off the bench and Oden/Sheed, Afflalo, and Maxiell all play defense well.
Chemistry. Most of these guys would be in roles they're accustomed to, Rose as the tablesetter, Kobe as the scorer and star, Wallace as the 2nd or 3rd option and defensive guy, Oden and Bynum as intimidators in the low post.

After those considerations, I decided I like Paul's team better. But I'm not the final answer. scottyboy asked me to judge and I just threw in my 2 cents. My word is not the end all.

Well, these are my two cents actually. I dunno, I could have gone Gilbert Arenas or maybe Steve Nash to pair with Kobe, but I just wanted to keep this defensive mindset, that noone's gonna get easy buckets, and with big physical, athletic guys on offense ready and willing to take advantage of a tired defense. That's what the Celtics are doing this year, aren't they?

scottyboy
05-20-2008, 04:33 PM
hmm... maybe ishouldn't have kept this open for 2 weeks...

RoyHall#1
05-20-2008, 05:29 PM
D still needs to cast his vote worth 15 points... :D

BrownsTown
05-20-2008, 06:54 PM
hmm... maybe ishouldn't have kept this open for 2 weeks...

I think most people have voted...once D gives you his picks you should announce the winner.

scottyboy
05-24-2008, 12:43 PM
hmmm, shall we declare this bad boy over? If so, I win! :D

BrownsTown
05-24-2008, 02:13 PM
hmmm, shall we declare this bad boy over? If so, I win! :D

Well count in fenikz's and D's vote. I dunno if D finished it, so ask him to I guess.