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needled24_7
05-23-2008, 04:54 PM
I say Clady, been a fan of his for a while and will protect Cutler's blind side for years.

regoob2
05-23-2008, 04:59 PM
Chris Williams :D

Michigan
05-23-2008, 05:04 PM
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nobodyinparticular
05-23-2008, 05:04 PM
I'm hoping it won't be Albert or Clady... Although I will say that I really like Clady in an NFL ZBS. I really like Chris Williams, but I don't know if he will fit an in-line, power blocking scheme. Are the Bears getting away from that or are they going to try to make Williams fit into it?

Don Vito
05-23-2008, 05:07 PM
Right now I can't say anyone besides Jake Long, NFL teams clearly saw him as the guy who will be the best tackle out of this class and I agree with them. He was the #1 overall pick, how can you go with anyone else?

ninerfan
05-23-2008, 05:48 PM
I like the look of Clady and he's found himself in a great situation in Denver

Staubach12
05-23-2008, 06:00 PM
They will all either add 10 pounds and move to NT or lose 50 and become a dominant TE. Except Jake Long. He'll drop 90 pounds and become the best FB in the game!

wicket
05-23-2008, 06:09 PM
Couldn't we use Jake Long for as a tweener between long-snapper and specialised punt returner, he would be dominant there if he'd lose about half his bulk and it seems a shame to use him otherwise.

needled24_7
05-23-2008, 06:20 PM
hey guys you know what's comedic gold the same position change jokes every other thread

themaninblack
05-23-2008, 06:22 PM
no you know whats comedic gold? everyone rep raping you.

RaiderNation
05-23-2008, 07:28 PM
Voted Long, he seems at worst a starter and at best a HoF

CJSchneider
05-23-2008, 08:22 PM
Yeah I gotta go with Jake Long. Hey, lets make him the Offensive Coordinator too - since he knows what the defensive line is thinking(sarcasm).

Brent
05-23-2008, 08:54 PM
I said Clady because it seems that zone blocking scheme always makes lineman look better than they are.

Shane P. Hallam
05-23-2008, 09:13 PM
I said Clady because it seems that zone blocking scheme always makes lineman look better than they are.

Spot on IMO. Clady fits and he can have a very good career.

doingthisinsteadofwork
05-23-2008, 09:30 PM
I actually think Chris Williams will have the best career out of those guys.

BeerBaron
05-23-2008, 10:55 PM
i went jake long feeling like he would run away with it but to my surprise.....

GO CHRIS WILLIAMS!!@!! woot

A Perfect Score
05-23-2008, 10:57 PM
i voted for chris williams, simply because he has all the tools to excel at LT, and its the ones who make it as pass protectors in this league who are teh most heralded. clady is a great fit in denver, and jake long was the #1 overall so he will obviously be watched mroe closely, therefore i think its possible that Williams becomes the more publicly acclaimed one. I also think he will be the best out of them all, ive been a big fan of his all along

foozball
05-23-2008, 11:32 PM
duane brown!

Splat
05-24-2008, 07:55 AM
I'm hoping it won't be Albert.

O ya well I hope DMC is a bust.:)

Anys ways I hate to say it I have a feeling Ryan Clady is going to be great.

SenorGato
05-24-2008, 10:42 AM
Long will be the best.

Albert will be a monster though...just at G. I really think he has the chance to be an All-Pro type G.

MaxV
05-24-2008, 10:52 AM
4 votes for Brown.

It could be just me, but I find it VERY hard to believe he will be the best among all that are on this list.

PACKmanN
05-24-2008, 10:53 AM
If Clady is with Denver in his entire career without a scheme change then it's hard to not pick him. He just too much of a perfect fit there.

BeerBaron
05-24-2008, 10:55 AM
If Clady is with Denver in his entire career without a scheme change then it's hard to not pick him. He just too much of a perfect fit there.

idk, denver might not be far from a coaching change as hard as that sounds to believe....

and with that might come a scheme change which would suck for clady

thebow305
05-24-2008, 11:23 AM
I hope it's Jake :)

Addict
05-24-2008, 11:28 AM
Wasn't Cherilous technically a first round OT?

Anyhow, I'd say if he works out, Chris Williams has the best LT skillset.

BaLLiN
05-24-2008, 01:03 PM
I voted Williams, but im not sure he fits completely.

LonghornsLegend
05-24-2008, 01:06 PM
I picked Long, but not because he was the top rated tackle, because I feel like he will get the best coaching out of the group, and he has a great work ethic as is...He hs guys around him that REALLY know the O line so its hard for me to imagine him not ending up great.



Close 2nd Chris Williams, he is very intelligent, and an excellent pass blocker...He might not be the mauler that Otah or Long are, but I think he has a very good career.

adschofield
05-24-2008, 01:47 PM
Branden Albert has the best combination of a high ceiling and a low bust rate...I'll take him

619
05-24-2008, 01:51 PM
Branden Albert has the best combination of a high ceiling and a low bust rate...I'll take him

Both Albert and Clady are probably in the best situations of the bunch but Albert has the higher ceiling so I'll go with him.

BamaFalcon59
05-24-2008, 02:04 PM
Branden Albert has the best combination of a high ceiling and a low bust rate...I'll take him

Changing positions always involves bust rate.

A Perfect Score
05-24-2008, 02:06 PM
Branden Albert has the best combination of a high ceiling and a low bust rate...I'll take him

i disagree...it question is which TACKLE will have the best career, and while i think its entirely possible that Albert makes the transition to LT, i think that of all the people mentioned, he has one of the highest bust rates, simply because he has never played the position in question before...your right in saying he has a high ceiling, maybe the highest, and while he may have a low bust factor inside at G, at LT he has a fairly high bust rate in comparison with guys like clady, williams and Long.

PossumBoy9
05-24-2008, 02:27 PM
I like the look of Clady and he's found himself in a great situation in Denver

Yeah, I think Clady found himself in the best situation he could have.

TacticaLion
05-24-2008, 05:45 PM
Wasn't Cherilous technically a first round OT?

Anyhow, I'd say if he works out, Chris Williams has the best LT skillset.

I was thinking the same thing... Sam Baker and Duane Brown made the poll, but Gosder was left off.

Off the list, I'd take Clady.

Yung Flippa
05-24-2008, 05:53 PM
1) Jake Long
2) Chris Williams
3) Duane Brown
4) Ryan Clady
5) Branden Albert

SMoore
05-24-2008, 05:58 PM
I voted Williams because I really think he is a pure left tackle and won't get tinkered with as much in regards to changing positions and such.

And i think Brown could surprise, i really like his atheleticism

MasterShake
05-24-2008, 06:54 PM
Joe Staley.

Brodeur
05-24-2008, 07:15 PM
I'll go with Gosder Cherilius, mainly because he isn't on the poll for no apparent reason.

DraftKidWonder
05-24-2008, 07:17 PM
I like Clady because of his pass protection and quickness. He has unlimited potential.

bored of education
05-24-2008, 07:20 PM
I'm hoping Albert :)

Splat
05-24-2008, 09:00 PM
Changing positions always involves bust rate.

This can be true but if he (Albert) can't play OT in the NFL I still feel he can be moved back in side and be a very solid OG.

Unbiased
05-24-2008, 10:08 PM
Personally, I think Otah. I think he'll have a year similar to Marcus McNeil's rookie year and the Panthers will have one of the better, if the the best, tackle combinations in the league.

Paranoidmoonduck
05-25-2008, 03:29 AM
Changing positions always involves bust rate.

True, but if you consider the worse case scenario's for each player (ie: not being reliable enough options to guard the blindside), I probably look at Branden Albert playing guard as being a superior option to Clady moving inside or to right tackle. Not saying you look at a player with that being the sole consideration, but I think it plays a role.

This is total guesswork, but:

- I like Jake Long quite a bit. I think he may be better suited for left tackle than some people say. However, I also can't say I'd be very surprised if edge rushers give him some trouble early in his career. He plays in a division that has two 3-4 defenses, meaning he'll be facing those edge rushing linebackers (on the menu for this year: Vernon Gholston/Calvin Pace and Adalius Thomas). In the end, I wouldn't be shocked to see him rack up more games at right tackle, where I think he could well be a perennial pro bowler. Whether he has the best career depends on how you look at the difference in value between being a left or a right tackle, but I think Long is definitely going to be in the conversation for best offensive lineman from this draft when it is all said and done.

- I was never completely sold on Ryan Clady. The talent is absolutely there, and there were times when it seemed like the game slowed down for him and he played very well, but I had a hard time seeing the mental approach in his game. He's coming from one pure zone blocking scheme to another in a similar climate on an offense with potential and a quarterback who gets rid of the ball fairly well. Things look pretty decent but I see some bust potential there.

- I like Chris Williams in Chicago a lot. I never bought that the kid wasn't aggressive, and I like him as much as any rookie offensive lineman to be an immediate hit. A lot will depend on which direction that Chicago offense steps in (can Matt Forte really make that much of a difference?).

- Branden Albert has the look of a left tackle, but I'm interested in seeing how he does there for 16 games in the NFL. He played a few games at the position in his final college season, but I tend to think that Albert does his best work down the field, and he would generally have a better chance to do that playing his more familiar position of guard in Kansas City's offense. Kansas City could use help everywhere, and they aren't going to necessarily be paying Albert the kinds of bucks that would make them cling to him as an offensive tackle.

- I really like Gosder Cherilus, but I can't help but be wary about any player entering Detroit. I'd like to think that the organization is turning around, but you see some pretty improbable busts coming from that organization (and others of its kind). In the beginning all he really has to do is be better than George Foster, which I think he is more than up to. Maybe Detroit has to replace Jeff Backus on the left side next year, but I think Detroit found it's answer at right tackle for quite a while.

- I think the Jeff Otah pick for Carolina was a pretty good one in terms of value, but I think that if I was a Panther fan I'd be pretty worried. Otah has gobs of potential, but as big as he is and as well as he uses his hands, I'm still not sure he has the foot speed to play left tackle in the NFL. The Panthers just dropped a ton of cash on Jordan Gross, a guy they wisely want to keep on the right side. What happens if Otah ends up being their second right tackle instead of the answer on the left side?

- I sincerely hope that the Falcons aren't married to the idea of Sam Baker playing only left tackle for them. I saw a lot of Baker's games, and while the guy has a really good approach to the game, he got his lunch handed to him by some players who shouldn't have been able to do so. I think the value of the pick was fine, considering the way offensive tackles were flying off the board, but I think the Falcons should have a backup plan for Baker.

- I didn't mind the Sam Baker pick, but I'm not sure how to feel about the Texans picking Duane Brown. I didn't really consider Brown remotely worth a first round pick. I think he is too much of a project to be considered as such. Sure, the Texans needed another option at the position right away, and the talent was only going to go down after that pick, but I think there's a good chance that the Texans are looking for another left tackle in just a few years.

adschofield
05-25-2008, 10:19 AM
Well, I think both Branden Albert and Ryan Clady have the most potential, but despite the fact that Albert has only played a couple of games at LT, Albert has a lower bust rate, IMO. Clady has yet to develop physically and technically, and his mobility might be weakened by the weight that he has to put on his lower body. I think Clady has the most potential, but Albert will end up being the best LT out of this class.

art vandelay
05-26-2008, 11:39 AM
1) Chris Williams (LT)
2) Gosder Cherilus (RT)
3) Jake Long (LT)
4) Jeff Otah (LT)
5) Brandon Albert (LG)
5) Ryan Clady (LT)
6) Duane Brown (LT)
7) Sam Baker (LT)

BamaFalcon59
05-26-2008, 01:09 PM
Sam Baker ftw.

urinemonkey
05-26-2008, 03:04 PM
I think it'll go pretty much in the order they were drafted as to who will have the best career. As a Broncos fan, I'm a bit worried about Clady's intelligence, as he scored a dismal 13 on the Wonderlic and was known to blow blocking assignments on occasion in college. He does have arguably the quickest feet of any O-lineman in the draft and he comes from a similar blocking scheme, so he's probably in the best situation for him to succeed here in Denver.

Splat
05-26-2008, 06:03 PM
1) Chris Williams (LT)
2) Gosder Cherilus (RT)
3) Jake Long (LT)
4) Jeff Otah (LT)
5) Brandon Albert (LG)
5) Ryan Clady (LT)
6) Duane Brown (LT)
7) Sam Baker (LT)

If BA plays OG it will be RG IMO I don't see Brain Waters moving any time soon.

BeerBaron
05-26-2008, 06:04 PM
If BA plays OG it will be RG IMO I don't see Brain Waters moving any time soon.

i heard they were even thinking of moving waters to center.

Splat
05-26-2008, 06:39 PM
i heard they were even thinking of moving waters to center.

The media has said that a time or two but I have yet to hear some one from the team say it I think it is just media talk I believe the Chiefs starting five will look like this.

OT - Albert
OG - Waters
C - Niswanger
OG - Jones
OT - McIntosh

adschofield
05-26-2008, 07:28 PM
It's interesting to see Chris Williams that high...He doesn't really have that high of a ceiling, but he's a safe pick and a LT-ready prospect.

BeerBaron
05-26-2008, 07:31 PM
It's interesting to see Chris Williams that high...He doesn't really have that high of a ceiling, but he's a safe pick and a LT-ready prospect.

i think if your a teams long term LT, your ceiling is already pretty high....thats probably the 2nd most important position on offense and is one of the most important positions on a football team behind QB along with a pass rushing DE and a shut down CB

so if chris williams sticks there and is successful, I think he'd already be a raging success

rascal
05-27-2008, 02:15 PM
idk, denver might not be far from a coaching change as hard as that sounds to believe....

and with that might come a scheme change which would suck for clady

despite what the media would like to imply (read PFT) Shanny is not in jeopardy of losing his job.

FlyingElvis
05-27-2008, 03:21 PM
I said Clady because it seems that zone blocking scheme always makes lineman look better than they are.

True, but Denver typically doesn't like to pay huge money to O-lineman. So Clady may look great until he goes FA, then fall off a bit. Thus making him the best until his contract is up, but not the career long best. However, if he stays in Denver for his career w/Mike coaching (which he will be until he quits) then I'm voting Clady.

I like Long, but I'm biased as a fan of the Blue. But, despite having a big question mark at QB, I'll put my money on the Parcells lead team producing the best opportunity long term compared to any of the other teams.

I like Otah as long as Fox is there, and assuming Jake comes back into his early 07 form after his rehab.

So my vote goes Clady by a small margin. Mostly b/c he steps into a better situation to start, which means he'll look good right away. Better running game (~25 ypg more than Miami last year) + a much better QB. A young, indecisive QB like Beck/Henne will lead to a higher sack total, plus Cutler has good feet to escape the rush.

OSUGiants17
05-27-2008, 05:25 PM
Otah ftw!! And how did Brown get 10 votes?

Thunder&Lightning
05-28-2008, 07:00 AM
Jake Long. There is a reason the Dolphins took him #1

Tha Boss
05-28-2008, 08:06 PM
Well Shanahan said that Clady has the best feet he has ever seen. People on the team are already calling him "sweet feet".

Based purely on potential its gotta be Clady or Albert. As well Clady is a perfect fit for the ZBS, and he has amazing physical tools.

That being said Jake Long is a proven commodity who also has limitless potential, as of now i dont think you can take anyone but Long afterall he was the number 1 pick.

1.Long
2.Clady
3.Albert

adschofield
05-28-2008, 08:09 PM
Well Shanahan said that Clady has the best feet he has ever seen. People on the team are already calling him "sweet feet".

Based purely on potential its gotta be Clady or Albert. As well Clady is a perfect fit for the ZBS, and he has amazing physical tools.

That being said Jake Long is a proven commodity who also has limitless potential, as of now i dont think you can take anyone but Long afterall he was the number 1 pick.

1.Long
2.Clady
3.Albert

Limitless potential? Umm...I don't think so...Jake Long is pretty much what you see is what you get (which is a damn good LT, but not an elite one)

Tha Boss
05-28-2008, 08:16 PM
Limitless potential? Umm...I don't think so...Jake Long is pretty much what you see is what you get (which is a damn good LT, but not an elite one)


You dont take a player number 1 if you dont think he will be "elite". I honestly am not a big Long fan, I think he will have quite a bit of trouble with any speed rusher he has to go up against.

But the fact remains, You take a player Number 1 overall because you feel he can be an elite player whom you can build your team around.

adschofield
05-28-2008, 08:31 PM
You dont take a player number 1 if you dont think he will be "elite". I honestly am not a big Long fan, I think he will have quite a bit of trouble with any speed rusher he has to go up against.

But the fact remains, You take a player Number 1 overall because you feel he can be an elite player whom you can build your team around.

You say that Long will have trouble with speed rushers and then you say he's elite. The fact that he will have problem with speed rushers is a pretty big problem, correct?

Jake Long will be a great LT for a long time, but he won't be mentioned as one of the elite LT's in the NFL.

Tha Boss
05-28-2008, 08:45 PM
You say that Long will have trouble with speed rushers and then you say he's elite. The fact that he will have problem with speed rushers is a pretty big problem, correct?

Jake Long will be a great LT for a long time, but he won't be mentioned as one of the elite LT's in the NFL.

I personally never said he would be "elite".

I SAID you dont draft a player number 1 overall, if you dont think he is elite, and you can build your team around him. (which is why the dolphins took him num 1)

It would be to homerish for me to say Clady will be the best. So i based my assumption off of the fact that Long is already higher in his ceiling than Clady, and thus he is somewhat of a proven commodity.

Clady has every advantage over Long (teamwise) and has no reason not to be the best.

adschofield
05-28-2008, 08:51 PM
I personally never said he would be "elite".

I SAID you dont draft a player number 1 overall, if you dont think he is elite, and you can build your team around him. (which is why the dolphins took him num 1)

It would be to homerish for me to say Clady will be the best. So i based my assumption off of the fact that Long is already higher in his ceiling than Clady, and thus he is somewhat of a proven commodity.

Clady has every advantage over Long (teamwise) and has no reason not to be the best.

But Clady has a much higher ceiling right now, but he does have a big bust rate because he's not developed physically and his technique isn't spectacular. On the other hand, Jake Long is nearly fully developed but does not have much more potential.

PACKmanN
05-28-2008, 08:57 PM
I personally never said he would be "elite".

I SAID you dont draft a player number 1 overall, if you dont think he is elite, and you can build your team around him. (which is why the dolphins took him num 1)

It would be to homerish for me to say Clady will be the best. So i based my assumption off of the fact that Long is already higher in his ceiling than Clady, and thus he is somewhat of a proven commodity.

Clady has every advantage over Long (teamwise) and has no reason not to be the best.
I'm sorry but you do not build a team around a LT. The Dolphins are building the team around Brown. They built a run line for him to run on other teams.

Tha Boss
05-28-2008, 09:00 PM
I'm sorry but you do not build a team around a LT. The Dolphins are building the team around Brown. They built a run line for him to run on other teams.

What???

You most certainly do build your team around a LT.

You build your team around a Franchise QB, LT, or Defensive lineman.

You never build your team around a runningback. Ever. Especially one with an injury history of Ronnie Brown.

da boss
05-29-2008, 12:13 PM
Clady is going to be solid...but he's the 4th best tackle in this poll.

Long 1
Albert 2
Williams 3
Clady 4

Tha Boss
05-29-2008, 01:11 PM
Clady is going to be solid...but he's the 4th best tackle in this poll.

Long 1
Albert 2
Williams 3
Clady 4

Who you playin boy, you got any reasoning first?

I see you name jackin sir.

TimD
05-29-2008, 03:02 PM
I like the look of Clady and he's found himself in a great situation in Denver

as do i. he'll be good.

terribletowel39
05-29-2008, 05:32 PM
Who you playin boy, you got any reasoning first?

I see you name jackin sir.
Please he obviously is DA boss and you are THA boss. yea....

BamaFalcon59
05-29-2008, 05:36 PM
Why do people say Clady has so much more potential than Jake Long? Clady may be a bit quicker and have more potential in the passing game, but he has a small base and Jake Long has a much better body for an offensive lineman. He won't be as good run blocking as Long, and Long is no slouch pass protecting. Then add in that Long has an offensive line coach as a head coach. Finally, Clady has problems diagnosing all of the plays where as Long is by all indications a smart player.

Splat
05-29-2008, 06:57 PM
I have heard some good things about Branden Albert at LT during OTA's started off kinda slow but has really started to pick up has gave Tamba Hali all he could handle this week.

da boss
05-29-2008, 06:58 PM
Who you playin boy, you got any reasoning first?

I see you name jackin sir.

Im a man I dont jack names


All of those guys are NFL ready now while Clady needs to grow up and mature a bit. He has potential but I'd rather have the other 3 come day 1.

da boss
05-29-2008, 07:10 PM
I personally never said he would be "elite".

I SAID you dont draft a player number 1 overall, if you dont think he is elite, and you can build your team around him. (which is why the dolphins took him num 1)

It would be to homerish for me to say Clady will be the best. So i based my assumption off of the fact that Long is already higher in his ceiling than Clady, and thus he is somewhat of a proven commodity.

Clady has every advantage over Long (teamwise) and has no reason not to be the best.

your man crush on clady and bailey must have a deaper meaning ???

Seems to me like you are a Bronco's fan

That means your opinion matters about as much as a Raider fan


:eek:

Tha Boss
05-29-2008, 07:20 PM
Im a man I dont jack names


All of those guys are NFL ready now while Clady needs to grow up and mature a bit. He has potential but I'd rather have the other 3 come day 1.

Um..... Branden Albert has played a total of 3 games (some where around there) at left tackle. How would you say he is more ready than Clady? When clady has started the past two seasons at LT.

Your logic appears to be a bit flawed. You may be a man but you aint no BOSS son.

Tha Boss
05-29-2008, 07:24 PM
your man crush on clady and bailey must have a deaper meaning ???

Seems to me like you are a Bronco's fan

That means your opinion matters about as much as a Raider fan


:eek:

I was talkin about Jake Long when you came into play. The other guy was talking about Clady.

And how would you know about my opinions on Bailey, that means you obviously jacked my name because you were reading my posts in the other thread before you even registered.

I never once claimed Clady as the best, your clearly reaching here.

da boss
05-29-2008, 07:28 PM
Um..... Branden Albert has played a total of 3 games (some where around there) at left tackle. How would you say he is more ready than Clady? When clady has started the past two seasons at LT.

Your logic appears to be a bit flawed. You may be a man but you aint no BOSS son.



My logic isn't flawed. I hate to call a man stupid but Clady is more than a qualifier for that title. In my opinion if I start a game tomorrow Im starting any of those other 3 over Clady. Albert may not have more time at tackle then Clady but he's a far superior player. Clady has alot of potential but so did Robert Galley. Ill take guys that don't have that many question marks.

and Im not your son..Im da boss

cheers mate

Tha Boss
05-29-2008, 07:37 PM
My logic isn't flawed. I hate to call a man stupid but Clady is more than a qualifier for that title. In my opinion if I start a game tomorrow Im starting any of those other 3 over Clady. Albert may not have more time at tackle then Clady but he's a far superior player. Clady has alot of potential but so did Robert Galley. Ill take guys that don't have that many question marks.

and Im not your son..Im da boss

cheers mate

Brandon Albert has a lot of question marks, he has no experience at the LT position. Thats as big of a question mark as you can have.

You may be da boss of a taco bell, but thats about it.

Signed ya boy,
Boss Man

da boss
05-29-2008, 07:39 PM
Brandon Albert has a lot of question marks, he has no experience at the LT position. Thats as big of a question mark as you can have.

You may be da boss of a taco bell, but thats about it.

Signed ya boy,
Boss Man

wow Taco Bell eh? Tha's as good as a comeback gets :p

and Im glad you realize Im da boss and your my boy :eek:

CHEERS!

Tha Boss
05-29-2008, 07:46 PM
wow Taco Bell eh? Tha's as good as a comeback gets :p

and Im glad you realize Im da boss and your my boy :eek:

CHEERS!

Let me tell you, no Boss would ever say "cheers", sound like some lil girl out the suburbs.

In true boss form i out class you in every since of THA(not da) word.

PACKmanN
05-30-2008, 05:34 AM
What???

You most certainly do build your team around a LT.

You build your team around a Franchise QB, LT, or Defensive lineman.

You never build your team around a runningback. Ever. Especially one with an injury history of Ronnie Brown.

alright name me a team that is built around their LT?

da boss
05-30-2008, 11:41 AM
alright name me a team that is built around their LT?

Rams...1997 Orlando Pace

da boss
05-30-2008, 11:42 AM
Let me tell you, no Boss would ever say "cheers", sound like some lil girl out the suburbs.

In true boss form i out class you in every since of THA(not da) word.


I don't know why you turned this into some personal attack but show some class.


Back on topic now ladies and gents


Cheers!

Tha Boss
05-30-2008, 12:03 PM
alright name me a team that is built around their LT?

Well this is to easy....... The Rams with Orlando Pace, Ravens with Jonathen Ogden, Walter Jonnes in seatle, Tony Boselli Jacksonville, Anthony Munoz in cinncinati, You could probably even say that Buffalo is building around Jason Peters, Now the Jets are trying with Fergusen, and Miami with Long. Im sure i have left out a tun as this is off the top of my head.