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Yatta!
05-30-2008, 06:50 AM
According to this article on CBS (http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/10843553), the ten fastest players in college football in no particular order are Jahvid Best, Jeremy Maclin, Trindon Holiday, Michael Ray Garvin, CJ Spiller, Joe McKnight, Taylor Mays, Percy Harvin, Noel Devine and Jacoby Ford. I'm dubious about a lot of the times given though.

Thoughts?
Anyone got any homer picks to add?

Jonny
05-30-2008, 07:29 AM
Timmy Brown at least has to be in the conversation. He's a tiny smurf whose whole game is running out routes.

Jimmy
05-30-2008, 07:36 AM
mcknight shouldnt be on that list, where is brandon saine? where is eric berry? where is taurus johnson?

Cigaro
05-30-2008, 07:40 AM
Is this track speed, or football speed?

619
05-30-2008, 08:37 AM
First name that came to thought was Trindon Holiday. Also surprised to not see Vontae Davis make the list.

keylime_5
05-30-2008, 09:35 AM
Trindon Holliday is the answer. But as far as guys not listed Brandon Saine is for serious.

BuddyCHRIST
05-30-2008, 11:49 AM
As far as football speed the two fastest looking players to me on the field are C.J. Spiller and Percy Harvin and alot of that is because both have scary acceleration. Michael Ray Garvin doesn't play nearly has fast as he times unfortunately.

Hwoarang
05-30-2008, 01:10 PM
Posted this in the SEC thread.

http://images.sportsline.com/images/visual/052808dodd-holliday.jpg

themaninblack
05-30-2008, 02:03 PM
Thats pretty scary that Herschel is that high.

bigbenn
05-30-2008, 03:39 PM
If McKnight is on there then Vontae Davis needs to be on there. I don't even think I need to say much...

Michigan
05-30-2008, 04:35 PM
Taylor Mays?

DragonFireKai
05-30-2008, 04:40 PM
Taylor Mays?

He's fast as hell. Between him and Ellison, USC has easily the best pair of safeties in the nation.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
05-31-2008, 10:29 AM
Jacoby Ford, WR, Clemson, junior: Reportedly ran a 4.126 in prep school.

wtffff are you serious??

PACKmanN
05-31-2008, 10:59 AM
LeSean McCoy anyone?

cunningham06
05-31-2008, 11:29 AM
I'll take Noel Devine he is insane.

urinemonkey
06-01-2008, 11:37 AM
Posted this in the SEC thread.

http://images.sportsline.com/images/visual/052808dodd-holliday.jpg

No Bo Jackson? That's surprising.

Hwoarang
06-01-2008, 12:18 PM
No Bo Jackson? That's surprising.I'm not sure if he ever ran an official 100 meter race and or was timed. He's def up there.

619
06-01-2008, 12:19 PM
Taylor Mays?

Pretty scary for someone with his size.

BaLLiN
06-01-2008, 02:53 PM
Its definitely Holliday, i dont get why McKnight is on there, he's quick but he's not amazingly fast.

dbro
06-01-2008, 03:37 PM
Phillip Livas WR La Tech in high school he ran a 4.1, and now he is leaner and stronger

srv fan
06-01-2008, 10:19 PM
Phillip Livas WR La Tech in high school he ran a 4.1, and now he is leaner and stronger

If he did, they probably hand-timed him and didn't take wind assistance into consideration- both are factors that effect time that are controlled for electronically in track but often not in football tests, which can lead to results like this where a high school kid is timed running a sprint that would blow away an Olympic sprinter. I'm not saying he isn't fast, I'm sure is, but 4.1 would make him the fastest human being ever by a relatively wide margin. Look up the times for short sprints for Olympic sprinters like Michael Johnson and convert their distances into yards- this kid's supposed time destroys them, and that's just not plausible.

As far as pure speed goes, Trindon Holliday and Percy Harvin blaze. Harvin probably converts his track speed into football performance better, though.

dbro
06-02-2008, 05:43 PM
He didnt run a 4.1 flat, but i know they tryin to set up a 40 race between him an trinton holliday this summer

neko4
06-02-2008, 06:48 PM
The dude from Hampton
Theres two of them, i cant remember the names

Sniper
06-02-2008, 06:52 PM
Morgan Trent hawked down Percy Harvin. Yes, the same Morgan Trent who plays for Michigan, they of the ZOMGZ SLOWZ EPIC FAILZ BIG 10.

Hwoarang
06-02-2008, 07:35 PM
Morgan Trent hawked down Percy Harvin. Yes, the same Morgan Trent who plays for Michigan, they of the ZOMGZ SLOWZ EPIC FAILZ BIG 10.Don't know the official but We all know Chad Jones ran down McFadden. That's pretty damn fast.

Harvin was injured during the bowl game I believe..

Sniper
06-02-2008, 08:09 PM
Don't know the official but We all know Chad Jones ran down McFadden. That's pretty damn fast.

Harvin was injured during the bowl game I believe..

YES I GOT SIG QUOTED! Money!

Yeah but Harvin still motored away from everyone else. Trent busted into a dead sprint and hawked him. It was sick. I blew my load, it happens.

Hwoarang
06-02-2008, 10:03 PM
It was sick. I blew my load, it happens.

Tempted yet again..

supermario86
06-02-2008, 10:20 PM
personally i think they should takeout joe mcknight and put in vontae davis. As seen from the rosebowl davis is clearly the faster of the two.

jbeans187
06-02-2008, 10:25 PM
Phillip Livas WR La Tech in high school he ran a 4.1, and now he is leaner and stronger

i watched his tapes and he looks like a burner but no way 4.1 prob 4.3s, he does have a great stride. Does anyone know his hs track numbers?

Sniper
06-02-2008, 10:35 PM
personally i think they should takeout joe mcknight and put in vontae davis. As seen from the rosebowl davis is clearly the faster of the two.

Not necessarily. Though I think McKnight is quicker and more agile than he is straight line fast, he was essentially jogging and not expecting anyone to catch him. Davis was in a full sprint the whole time.

neko4
06-03-2008, 09:30 PM
Harvin was injured during the bowl game I believe..
Harvin is injured practically everyday. I'd love to see him bulk up and be able to with stand the load a bit better

bigbenn
06-04-2008, 08:24 AM
Not necessarily. Though I think McKnight is quicker and more agile than he is straight line fast, he was essentially jogging and not expecting anyone to catch him. Davis was in a full sprint the whole time.


He definitely wasn't jogging. He's just so smooth it looked that way (Like it did the whole game). Vontae just hawked him plain and simple. He didn't even take off until Joe made that move on the sideline and cut back to midfield so Joe still had more than enough room to score.

dbro
06-04-2008, 11:46 AM
i watched his tapes and he looks like a burner but no way 4.1 prob 4.3s, he does have a great stride. Does anyone know his hs track numbers?

I went to high school with him an the fastest he has run in a timed 40 is like 4.23, and he came back down this summer an he said he was clocked at running a high 4.1 like 4.19 or something an he is trying to holliday to race him. As for as track i dont know, but he does have an excellent burst and quick lateral movements. Ive played football and basketball with him

Staubach12
06-04-2008, 11:58 AM
Holliday, no question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TKV2Q7HySc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psWYfO7rp9A&feature=related

Everyone else is running in slow motion.

Sniper
06-04-2008, 01:39 PM
He definitely wasn't jogging. He's just so smooth it looked that way (Like it did the whole game). Vontae just hawked him plain and simple. He didn't even take off until Joe made that move on the sideline and cut back to midfield so Joe still had more than enough room to score.

Okay, okay I believe you. McKnight is so smooth though, as you said, and sometimes looks like he's on cruise control.

Don't take it as if I doubt Davis' speed. He's a burner for sure.

bigbenn
06-04-2008, 06:54 PM
Okay, okay I believe you. McKnight is so smooth though, as you said, and sometimes looks like he's on cruise control.

Don't take it as if I doubt Davis' speed. He's a burner for sure.


LOL I wasn't trying to come off like that I was just saying...yeah Davis is a burner though. He runs 4.3's all day at about 210. He looks like a LB. They have some freak genetics in that family.

dbro
06-04-2008, 08:40 PM
If anyone is interested in seeing how fast McKnight was in High school go look up the Louisiana 2007 state 100 meter finals.

Hwoarang
06-04-2008, 08:49 PM
If anyone is interested in seeing how fast McKnight was in High school go look up the Louisiana 2007 state 100 meter finals.McKnight does have a sort of slow speed if that makes sense. Just like Sniper said cruise control. He's fast but he just looks like he's jogging.

Sniper
06-04-2008, 10:41 PM
McKnight does have a sort of slow speed if that makes sense. Just like Sniper said cruise control. He's fast but he just looks like he's jogging.

He's just so smooth and effortless. I'm not saying he's not fast and he isn't trying, but it just never seems like he is trying. Very Reggie Bush-esque.

BigJohn98
06-04-2008, 10:46 PM
Walter Dix>>>>all.
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...........Too bad he isn't a football player.

YAYareaRB
06-05-2008, 12:28 AM
Walter Dix>>>>all.
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...........Too bad he isn't a football player.

Usain Bolt >>>>>>> Walter Dix

That 6'4" Jamaican ran a 9.7 100 and beat out Tyson ***.

Yatta!
06-05-2008, 06:54 AM
Usain Bolt >>>>>>> Walter Dix

That 6'4" Jamaican ran a 9.7 100 and beat out Tyson ***.

Can you say steroids? :eek:

Seriously though, Bolt is ridiculous it was like his 5th competitive 100m or something.

504 to ATL
06-05-2008, 10:57 PM
This is a much better illustration of Holliday's acceleration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNxQls1JNwI&NR=1

Just watch as Holliday blows past his own wide receiver. WR are all pretty fast and he just leaves him in the dust.

Sniper
06-05-2008, 11:00 PM
This is a much better illustration of Holliday's acceleration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNxQls1JNwI&NR=1

Just watch as Holliday blows past his own wide receiver. WR are all pretty fast and he just leaves him in the dust.

More Holliday awesomeness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNeziVgmApo&feature=related

I like him, but why isn't this kid putting up ridiculous numbers? He's faster than SEC fast.

504 to ATL
06-05-2008, 11:05 PM
I like him, but why isn't this kid putting up ridiculous numbers? He's faster than SEC fast.

Les Miles. He employs the RB by committee system. I cant blame him, Holliday is behind very good running backs in Keiland Willams, Charles Scott, and Dick Murphy.

Plus with Crowton as the OC, he uses a specific RB for a specific situation on the field given(down and distance).

Sniper
06-05-2008, 11:07 PM
Les Miles. He employs the RB by committee system. I cant blame him, Holliday is behind very good running backs in Keiland Willams, Charles Scott, and Dick Murphy.

Plus with Crowton as the OC, he uses a specific RB for a specific situation on the field given(down and distance).

I see. Is he the full-time PR/KR?

504 to ATL
06-05-2008, 11:13 PM
Full time sweep or inside draw man on offense. And full time shared KR duty, he never returns punts. I think Miles believes he would be broken if he did.

DragonFireKai
06-05-2008, 11:17 PM
Full time sweep or inside draw man on offense. And full time shared KR duty, he never returns punts. I think Miles believes he would be broken if he did.

That's an odd justification, Kick Returns almost always produce bigger hits than Punt Returns.

504 to ATL
06-05-2008, 11:20 PM
Hey Im not the coach. All I know is LSU is absolutely horrible at PR, they have no protection or blocking for the returners. So maybe he feels they will tee off on Holliday.

DragonFireKai
06-05-2008, 11:37 PM
Hey Im not the coach. All I know is LSU is absolutely horrible at PR, they have no protection or blocking for the returners. So maybe he feels they will tee off on Holliday.

It's the nature of the beast. On Kick Returns there are no dedicated blockers on the kicking team and they get a full field run up out of a track stance, on punt returns, most teams won't dedicate more than 4 gunners, with 2 being far more common, everyone else is blocking, which slows down their ability to get down field.

goblue8888
06-20-2008, 09:07 PM
Its ridiculous morgan trent and vontae davis aren't on the list when they caught two of those guys from behind on that list.

duckseason
06-20-2008, 10:20 PM
Its ridiculous morgan trent and vontae davis aren't on the list when they caught two of those guys from behind on that list.

Catching a guy from behind on a football field doesn't necessarily mean you're faster. For one, the ball carrier is carrying a ball, which hinders his natural running motion. Secondly, the ball carrier isn't necessarily running full speed, but more often looking for holes and cutting from side to side or planning his next stiffarm and whatnot. The defender has the advantage as all they need to do is take a direct angle and run full speed for the ball carrier.

On the Mcknight play where Vontae caught him from behind, it's clear that a few of these factors were at play. Knowing this, it would be foolish to use this individual play as evidence for who the faster player is.

No question Trent is very fast, but wasn't Harvin playing with an injured heel at the time?

Another guy with a legit beef here is Jamere Holland. On the track, he's posted better times than most those guys, and he just glides across the turf at Autzen. Well, at least he got mentioned at the bottom. But really, when we're talking about guys this fast, the difference is minimal. One guy may be faster than the next on Monday, and then on Wednesday the other guy is faster. Tough to come up with an accurate top ten without throwing them all out on the track together.

TACKLE
06-20-2008, 11:06 PM
Sam Shields, WR from the U ran a 4.28 in spring testing. THe guy has great track speed but needs to have it translate into football speed.

CLong4Heisman
06-22-2008, 08:20 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hfxPbfLTxIY&feature=related

This a link to the 2008 rose bowl. Fast foward to the 1 10 mark to see the play. Mcknight has to make two cuts and is still running at a diagonal directions when he is caught from behind.

Addict
06-22-2008, 08:56 AM
If Mays runs a 4.2 in the combine he is officially a freak of nature.

jbeans187
06-29-2008, 03:43 PM
Florida recruit Jeff Demps ran 10.01 at olympic qualifying, fastest high school time ever. In his heat he got second to Tyson ***'s 9.77 american record. Trindon Holliday ran 10.09 (his best is 10.02) after a bad start but still moves on till tonight. They run the semis and if both get through they go head to head in the finals, i think both are on nbc tonight. Also some other track times for NCAA players from the NCAA National Championships...

Trindon Holliday ran 10.18 in the 100m and got 3rd also LSU's 4x100 got first

Baylor Freshman QB Robert Griffin got 3rd in the ncaa nationals in the 400 hurdles in 49.55

FSU junior DB Michael Ray-Garvin ran 10.51 in the 100m, 21.17 in the 200m, and FSU's 4x100 that got 4th

Florida freshman RB Chris Rainey ran on their 3rd place 4x100 team

Clemson soph WR Jacoby Ford ran the 100m in 10.33

jbeans187
06-29-2008, 06:18 PM
Neither Demps or Holliday made the finals, 10.34 and 10.17 respectively. Xavier Carter from LSU did make the finals but didnt make the team in the 100m

504 to ATL
06-29-2008, 09:20 PM
A 10.01 at 18 years old, the track people are going to come offering him millions right away. I wonder if he will ever get to UF's football program.