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Rush23Hester
05-30-2008, 05:29 PM
http://www.sportsgamer.com/forums/madden-general-talk/191587-madden-09-official-qb-ratings.html#post2435709 madden 09 QB ratings. more to be released on tuesday for other positions.

Hwoarang
05-30-2008, 05:31 PM
Brees is better than Roethlesberger. How Brees isn't at the most a 97
is beyond me. How many 4000 yard seasons does he need?

WMD
05-30-2008, 05:33 PM
Josh Johnson..... BEAST!!

But how is Dennis Dixon at 60 Speed??

JF4
05-30-2008, 05:35 PM
Damn you EA.

You shafted Favre with a 97 rating!

iworshipbender
05-30-2008, 05:39 PM
Maybe EA missed this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REGaN0h2kPE

UKfan
05-30-2008, 05:43 PM
So... Tom Brady has the strongest arm in the NFL... wtf?! I know he had a helluva season, but surely someone like Boller, JaMarcus etc has a stronger arm.

CashmoneyDrew
05-30-2008, 05:44 PM
Maybe EA missed this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REGaN0h2kPE

Damn I think I could have scored on that one. I probably could have brought a few semis with me through that hole as well.

Splat
05-30-2008, 05:44 PM
I guess Madden has no love for Croyle and has Huard as the starter.:(

Go_Eagles77
05-30-2008, 05:54 PM
Wow Eli a 93. Wow....

Bob Sanders Dreadlock
05-30-2008, 05:55 PM
Brady and Manning both have 100's in awareness, wow.

Turtlepower
05-30-2008, 05:57 PM
JDB is better than Tavaris Jackson... hahahaha

BigJohn98
05-30-2008, 05:59 PM
Garrard threw three picks and his awareness is only 70?

JT Jag
05-30-2008, 06:00 PM
Someone give me the logic behind giving Tom Brady a higher throw power rating then a 25-year-old Brett Favre.

GB12
05-30-2008, 06:12 PM
JDB is better than Tavaris Jackson... hahahaha
Actually he isn't, but close enough.
Garrard threw three picks and his awareness is only 70?
Awareness is an attribute that was created to even out the overalls. if you gave Garrard awareness in the mid 80s he'd be like a 97.

BamaFalcon59
05-30-2008, 06:19 PM
Matt Leinart is an 85? What did he do to deserve that?

Something is wrong. They gave Dennis Dixon 60 speed.

Matt Ryan is pretty damn good.

Paul
05-30-2008, 06:24 PM
Romo at 94 Overall with 78 Speed, Nice.

Vikes99ej
05-30-2008, 06:36 PM
Tarvaris is rated the same as last year, no surprise there

The Dynasty
05-30-2008, 07:07 PM
Tarvaris is rated the same as last year, no surprise there

Yeah With JDB right behind him with 77 Uh oh. I also do fine with him when I play with the Vikings on Madden.

Chucky
05-30-2008, 07:12 PM
Josh Johnson with 88 speed. BEAST. Good to see Jeff Garcia with an 89 rating, but i might have to use JJ.

BamaFalcon59
05-30-2008, 07:15 PM
Josh Johnson with 88 speed. BEAST. Good to see Jeff Garcia with an 89 rating, but i might have to use JJ.

His vision cone is going to be like a tooth pick.

Go_Eagles77
05-30-2008, 07:16 PM
Josh Johnson with 88 speed. BEAST. Good to see Jeff Garcia with an 89 rating, but i might have to use JJ.

Johnson will definitely be my backup QB when I do a fantasy draft.

Chucky
05-30-2008, 07:18 PM
His vision cone is going to be like a tooth pick.

Thats true, but I don't use the vision cone.

BamaFalcon59
05-30-2008, 07:22 PM
I play online so I have to use the vision cone, good to see Matt Ryan's awareness is like 72 already.

PACKmanN
05-30-2008, 07:26 PM
I like that Rodgers has an 83 overall and Brohm as 80. :) ownage.

Ness
05-30-2008, 07:35 PM
Tom Brady having a 100 arm strength rating is the only major issue I see.

Go_Eagles77
05-30-2008, 07:37 PM
Tom Brady having a 100 arm strength rating is the only major issue I see.

Actually it's 99, which is still far too high. I'd give him a 93.

BamaFalcon59
05-30-2008, 07:38 PM
His arm has gotten stronger since he entered the league. I would say 95, which is still very good.

DragonFireKai
05-30-2008, 07:40 PM
Eli Manning is more accurate and more aware than Donovan McNabb? Bwah? When did that happen?

Turtlepower
05-30-2008, 07:42 PM
Eli Manning is more accurate and more aware than Donovan McNabb? Bwah? When did that happen?

Just remember that Madden Ratings are 90% based on a player's performance from the previous year.

DragonFireKai
05-30-2008, 07:46 PM
Just remember that Madden Ratings are 90% based on a player's performance from the previous year.

Eli completed 56.1% of his passes, and threw an INT on 3.8% of those passes in 2007. McNabb completed 61.5% of his passes, and threw an INT on 1.5% of those passes in 2007.

Ness
05-30-2008, 07:48 PM
Actually it's 99, which is still far too high. I'd give him a 93.Whoops my bad. I think I'd give him a 96.

BamaFalcon59
05-30-2008, 07:48 PM
Eli completed 56.1% of his passes, and threw an INT on 3.8% of those passes in 2007. McNabb completed 61.5% of his passes, and threw an INT on 1.5% of those passes in 2007.

Despite Eli Manning being mediocre as a whole throughout his career, he played well in the playoffs and in the Superbowl this year for the Giants so EA went with public opinion and boosted his rating.

Go_Eagles77
05-30-2008, 07:55 PM
Eli completed 56.1% of his passes, and threw an INT on 3.8% of those passes in 2007. McNabb completed 61.5% of his passes, and threw an INT on 1.5% of those passes in 2007.

lol I love how you always bring out the stats.

M.O.T.H.
05-30-2008, 07:57 PM
Wow Eli a 93. Wow....

I know, that's what stuck out for me.

94 accuracy and 88 awareness?

The guy is a career 55% passer w/ 38 Ints in the last two years. What a joke.

DragonFireKai
05-30-2008, 07:59 PM
lol I love how you always bring out the stats.

Am I wrong?

Go_Eagles77
05-30-2008, 08:00 PM
Am I wrong?

No I'm serious.

Sniper
05-30-2008, 08:12 PM
Whoops my bad. I think I'd give him a 96.

Meh. 98 for me. Brady has a ******* cannon when he steps into it.

OSUGiants17
05-30-2008, 08:15 PM
I know, that's what stuck out for me.

94 accuracy and 88 awareness?

The guy is a career 55% passer w/ 38 Ints in the last two years. What a joke.
I am a Giants fan and even I agree with you. I mean this is rediculous, just cause he won one important game now he is amazing. I mean he is good, but not that good.

jballa838
05-30-2008, 08:15 PM
the only major issue I see is Brennan, Woodson, Ryan, Brohm,Flacco, Flynn, Brink and Brohm are faster than Dixon. WTF?

BamaFalcon59
05-30-2008, 08:17 PM
the only major issue I see is Brennan, Woodson, Ryan, Brohm,Flacco, Flynn, Brink and Brohm are faster than Dixon. WTF?

Agreed, I mentioned this as well.

M.O.T.H.
05-30-2008, 08:19 PM
Doesnt really matter w/ Dixon anyway because, you probably still cant use him in a slash role anyway in madden. Still, that is a big F up considering he may be playing some receiver.

M.O.T.H.
05-30-2008, 08:22 PM
I wonder if Canty will finally be better than Spears in this one.

Sniper
05-30-2008, 08:22 PM
Doesnt really matter w/ Dixon anyway because, you probably still cant use him in a slash role anyway in madden. Still, that is a big F up considering he may be playing some receiver.

I hate when you put a guy at WR (like Dixon) and his hands are like -981 and he drops EVERY ******* PASS. Just because he's not a receiver doesn't mean he can't catch. More of a NCAA problem, but still.

Go_Eagles77
05-30-2008, 08:27 PM
The Dixon thing makes me wonder if whoever makes these ratings ever even watched a single play of his.

DragonFireKai
05-30-2008, 08:32 PM
Meh. 98 for me. Brady has a ******* cannon when he steps into it.

But you have to think about it comparatively. How does his arm stack up compared to other QBs? He definitely doesn't have the arm strength of a McNabb, Anderson, or Russell.

M.O.T.H.
05-30-2008, 08:35 PM
78 speed is still too fast for Romo...yes, he is an excellent scrambler but, the guy is no burner. Last year when he was an 80, it felt like i was playing w/ Vick.

nfrillman
05-30-2008, 08:38 PM
I think EA really screwed up some of these. It seems like these ratings were made by the general public, not even the general football watching public. How else can you explain these:

1. Eli being a 93- It's like some random guy said, "Oh that's that guy who had that awesome play in the Superbowl, he is the man." So now all the sudden Eli is the 6th best QB in the league??? He's the 7th most accurate?? Based on what, his 29th place finish in completion percentage last year??? Allow me to call bullsh*t on that.
2. Philip Rivers being a 90- What did he do to deserve that?? Again it seems like some random guy said, "Oh, the QB on the Chargers..the Chargers are great so their QB must be awesome." He has started 2 seasons and his QB rating dropped 10 points last year. How does an 82.4 rating translate to a 90? There's only 4 QB's in the league more accurate than Rivers??? Gimme an effin break, he finished 23rd in completion percentage.
3. Matt Leinart- I don't know what Warner's rating is, but if Leinart really has a higher rating than Warner thats idiotic. So Leinart is more accurate than Roethlisberger, Shaub, McNabb, and all other QB's in league besides 11???? Interesting development, where was I when this happened?
4. Brady's arm strength- Ummm, allow me to differ with the thought that Brady has the strongest arm not only in the NFL, but also stronger than all the all time greats.
5. Romo's speed- Romo is still far to fast. He has good pocket awareness and is a good scrambler, but he isn't that fast.

My biggest beef with the ratings in general seems to be accuracy. It seems to me that they just inflated the accuracies of guys that they wanted to be good........Eli, Leinart, Rivers, etc

I don't think I will be buying Madden based on how screwed up some of these ratings are. They are just pandering to the general public instead of attempting to make an accurate simulation of the NFL.

GB12
05-30-2008, 08:38 PM
Could the Dixon rating possibly be because of his injury still?

DragonFireKai
05-30-2008, 08:51 PM
I don't think I will be buying Madden based on how screwed up some of these ratings are. They are just pandering to the general public instead of attempting to make an accurate simulation of the NFL.

I'm going to get it, but I'm definitely going to go scorched earth on some of those rankings.

BamaFalcon59
05-30-2008, 08:52 PM
Could the Dixon rating possibly be because of his injury still?

Doubt it. Not that big of a difference.

DragonFireKai
05-30-2008, 08:59 PM
Doubt it. Not that big of a difference.

That, and an ACL tear is more of a acceleration and agility issue than a raw speed problem.

LonghornsLegend
05-30-2008, 09:36 PM
I'm guessing VY is an 88 because he's so fast, because thats way too high otherwise.


And the Vikes will be beastly, T-Jack is pretty fast, so outside of going crazy with AD the whole game, when you drop back to pass you can run for the 1st down with him and Rice should be a nice big target outside, with the deep threat in Berrian...Looking like they will be my backup team outside of Dallas, especially with how good the D should be.

BamaFalcon59
05-30-2008, 09:39 PM
I will not decide who I will use yet outside of Atlanta, because I need to play with the teams, not just see them on paper. In Madden '08 I am better with the Raiders than I am with the Patriots, for example.

Shane P. Hallam
05-30-2008, 09:43 PM
I think people complain too much about specifics. I mean, you have to generate overalls, or generate other stats. Not all can be 100% accurate to get certain ones where you want them.

The Unseen
05-30-2008, 09:47 PM
How is Garrard one point more accurate than Rex Grossman when Garrard had a 64% completion rate, ten points more than Rex?

BigJohn98
05-30-2008, 09:49 PM
How is Garrard one point more accurate than Rex Grossman when Garrard had a 64% completion rate, ten points more than Rex?

Grossman's accuracy is an 84. David's is 93.

The Unseen
05-30-2008, 09:50 PM
Grossman's accuracy is an 84. David's is 93.

Well, I feel dumb.

LonghornsLegend
05-30-2008, 09:52 PM
lol I love how you always bring out the stats.

I know right, he's like the JA Adande of posting lol...Everytime he talks on pti he brings out the stats:D

LonghornsLegend
05-30-2008, 09:55 PM
I will not decide who I will use yet outside of Atlanta, because I need to play with the teams, not just see them on paper. In Madden '08 I am better with the Raiders than I am with the Patriots, for example.

Having a fast QB is always an advantage thats fun to have when you NEED those crucial 3rd downs...And then as soon as who your playing starts to come up and commit the deep pass is always open...People used to not want to play me for money when I used Vick, although it seemed like he got hurt way too easily and many times I would be screwed trying to gameplan without him.

Paul
05-30-2008, 10:03 PM
They just better bring back the old school training camp. The Practice before every week to improve was just way to much, I didn't even bother.

LonghornsLegend
05-30-2008, 10:24 PM
They just better bring back the old school training camp.

Really though, training camp is the ish, its been long enough now...Btw Romo@ 78 speed is gonna do some damage this year, I can't wait:D

nfrillman
05-30-2008, 10:24 PM
They just better bring back the old school training camp. The Practice before every week to improve was just way to much, I didn't even bother.

I definitely agree. I like to sim seasons but I don't like not developing my guys. They either need to go back to the training camp thing or allow some sort of simulation of training exercises. It is just far to time consuming.

MetSox17
05-30-2008, 10:53 PM
David Garrard is overrated...

Hwoarang
05-31-2008, 01:00 AM
Romo at 94 Overall with 78 Speed, Nice.Romo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Brees much less rated the same as him.

JR doesn't have the strongest arm? The game play better make me orgasm because the ratings aren't that good.

TimD
05-31-2008, 01:14 AM
Where's Clemens?!

LonghornsLegend
05-31-2008, 01:26 AM
Romo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Brees much less rated the same as him.

JR doesn't have the strongest arm? The game play better make me orgasm because the ratings aren't that good.

You forgot to add "Why isn't Devery Henderson's catch rating at LEAST a 96!??!?! No way should Fitzgerald have a higher catch rating, and why doesn't McKenzie have awareness at least 94? These ratings suck."

Ness
05-31-2008, 02:40 AM
Romo shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Brees much less rated the same as him.

Hahahaha...are you kidding me? Romo is a very good quarterback and I wouldn't say it's out of the question for him to be on the level on Drew Brees...or even above him.

BigJohn98
05-31-2008, 06:40 AM
David Garrard is overrated...

Really? How so? Let me guess, he's rated higher than your team's quarterback.

ATLDirtyBirds
05-31-2008, 07:59 AM
Doesn't matter. I edit all the ratings anyway.

Caddy
05-31-2008, 08:42 AM
Josh Johnson and 88 speed... Nice..

JT Jag
05-31-2008, 10:20 AM
Tom Brady's arm strength should = Joe Montana's.

Hwoarang
05-31-2008, 12:55 PM
You forgot to add "Why isn't Devery Henderson's catch rating at LEAST a 96!??!?! No way should Fitzgerald have a higher catch rating, and why doesn't McKenzie have awareness at least 94? These ratings suck."You don't follow my posts much do you? I don't think Devery will even be on the team this year. At least I hope not. He's garbage.

Please don't try assuming things again. You're horrible at it. BTW McKenzie only allowed 2 TD's last year. He was a top 10 CB last year.

Hahahaha...are you kidding me? Romo is a very good quarterback and I wouldn't say it's out of the question for him to be on the level on Drew Brees...or even above him.BWHAAAAAAAAAA Romo on the same level as Brees? Oh man that made my day. Thank you. Romo is overrated just by being the Cowboys QB. It's ridiculous. He's above average at best.

His rating for dating hot chicks is a 99. No doubt about that.

Xonraider
05-31-2008, 01:13 PM
Tom Brady having a 100 arm strength rating is the only major issue I see.

JaMarcus Russell not having 100 is the major issue.

BamaFalcon59
05-31-2008, 01:17 PM
You don't follow my posts much do you? I don't think Devery will even be on the team this year. At least I hope not. He's garbage.

Please don't try assuming things again. You're horrible at it. BTW McKenzie only allowed 2 TD's last year. He was a top 10 CB last year.

BWHAAAAAAAAAA Romo on the same level as Brees? Oh man that made my day. Thank you. Romo is overrated just by being the Cowboys QB. It's ridiculous. He's above average at best.

His rating for dating hot chicks is a 99. No doubt about that.

Roddy White raped him.

But he did it to a lot of people, so it is okay.

Gay Ork Wang
05-31-2008, 01:18 PM
I call bull! Grossman only 79 :D

Go_Eagles77
05-31-2008, 01:21 PM
JaMarcus Russell not having 100 is the major issue.

Yeah seriously. Brady and Russell with the same arm strength is ridiculous.

BamaFalcon59
05-31-2008, 01:22 PM
Yeah seriously. Brady and Russell with the same arm strength is ridiculous.

Actually Brady's is higher. 99 to JaMarcus's 98.

Go_Eagles77
05-31-2008, 01:25 PM
Actually Brady's is higher. 99 to JaMarcus's 98.

I just assumed Russell had a 99, yep that is just flat out wrong. lol

LonghornsLegend
05-31-2008, 01:28 PM
I think they just had to make alot of Brady's indv attributes higher then they should be, so his overall matched up properly...I think the more important thing is overall ratings, and sometimes the indv ratings wont match up particuliarly accurate because you have to increase other things to get the overall where you want it...I still don't agree with his arm being stronger then JR's because its not, but they were just trying to make Brady a complete beast on the game.


I'm more concerned with JR's awareness, they shafted him on 08...His overall would stay the same year in and out, even if you did drills because his awareness would always be so low, yet VY's awareness shot up like a rocket and his overall would be nearing high 90's in two off seasons, things like that bothered me.

Paul
05-31-2008, 01:31 PM
BWHAAAAAAAAAA Romo on the same level as Brees? Oh man that made my day. Thank you. Romo is overrated just by being the Cowboys QB. It's ridiculous. He's above average at best.

His rating for dating hot chicks is a 99. No doubt about that.

Not sure if this is extreme Romo hate, or unbridled Drew Brees homerism. But either way, your lack of of evidence to support your claims, either it be with play on the field, stats and or anything other then your homersitic opinions, makes anything you've said in this thread worthless. But it's good to see ratings from a video game pisses you off so much.

PACKmanN
05-31-2008, 01:52 PM
Lol, didn't Russell have an arm strength of 99 last year? what has he done to drop it? but it doesn't make that much of a difference.

LonghornsLegend
05-31-2008, 01:55 PM
He's the biggest Louisana homer ever...I don't even try to discuss topics that have to do with players who play or came from that state, they are superior to all!!!!11!1!

Gay Ork Wang
05-31-2008, 02:05 PM
id take brees over romo but only by a little bit tbh

Hwoarang
05-31-2008, 02:21 PM
Roddy White raped him.

But he did it to a lot of people, so it is okay.I thought White was a bust but man he came on in a major way last year. No doubt.


Not sure if this is extreme Romo hate, or unbridled Drew Brees homerism. But either way, your lack of of evidence to support your claims, either it be with play on the field, stats and or anything other then your homersitic opinions, makes anything you've said in this thread worthless. But it's good to see ratings from a video game pisses you off so much.
It's not ratings, it's the fact that people think IRL that Romo is equal to or better than Brees.

Staubach12
05-31-2008, 02:25 PM
Apparently, Tom Brady's arm is as strong as Brett Favre's...

BlindSite
05-31-2008, 07:38 PM
I like that Rodgers has an 83 overall and Brohm as 80. :) ownage.

Delhomme being an 85 just above a guy that's never started a regular season game in Rodgers or equal to a guy like Leinart is INSANELY stupid.

Michigan
05-31-2008, 08:28 PM
Rookies rated way to high, especially Brohm and Flacco.

MetSox17
05-31-2008, 11:23 PM
Apparently, Tom Brady's arm is as strong as Brett Favre's...

Yeah, Tom Brady's arm is way overrated. His deep ball isn't very good. Last year he completed a lot of deep passes because of Randy Moss, but he under threw way too many balls.

LonghornsLegend
06-01-2008, 01:05 AM
Rookies rated way to high, especially Brohm and Flacco.


Certain rookies always get rated higher then thy should, but its because they can't tell how good they will be...It's not point making them all 76 when they actually might be decent, and on franchise it would take 4 years just to get them average enough to start...They rate most rookies off draft stock, similiar to the game when you do a draft the top rated qb's are around 83, even though they never played a snap.

Forenci
06-01-2008, 02:03 AM
The real crime here is Alex Smith being 80 overall. What the hell has he done to make him that good last season besides get injured?

Eli rating is meh. By the way, he played well the entire playoffs, not just the Super Bowl, but sure.

It should be lower, though. His accuracy should be 88-89 if you ask me, but Eli has a cannon so I'd like to see the arm strength around 96.

Edit: Oh and MOTH, you're forgetting that sweet snap Gurrode flew 30 yards over Romo's head and Romo picked it up still managed to pick up a first. That is 80 speed worthy, right? Haha.

d34ng3l021
06-01-2008, 02:30 AM
Player ratings:

http://www.pastapadre.com/2645/madden-09-player-and-team-ratings?nggpage=2

Its pretty funny how Matt Ryan's awareness is better than or equal to 10 of the starting QBs. 93 THP and 87 THA is pretty damn good too.

LonghornsLegend
06-01-2008, 06:55 AM
Marion Barber a 93, good stuff, this year I won't have to increase his strength and break tackling before I start playing :D

Caddy
06-01-2008, 07:13 AM
The Buccaneers as a top 10 madden team sounds pretty good to me and the individual player rankings look pretty sweet too. The only problem; How is Cato June (91) better than Barrett Ruud (88).

ATLDirtyBirds
06-01-2008, 07:23 AM
The Buccaneers as a top 10 madden team sounds pretty good to me and the individual player rankings look pretty sweet too. The only problem; How is Cato June (91) better than Barrett Ruud (88).


Quit complaining. Keith Brooking is rated higher then Michael Boley.

Go_Eagles77
06-01-2008, 09:29 AM
Looks like I'm gonna be changing a lot of those ratings, but I do every year so theres no surprise. Would much rather see the individual ratings and not just overalls, like speed, strength etc..

Vikes99ej
06-01-2008, 10:04 AM
All I saw was Tommy Kelly is a 91, and I was done.

M.O.T.H.
06-01-2008, 10:13 AM
Damn cut off before Hurd...I'm sure he's a 96 . :)

619
06-01-2008, 11:02 AM
If I remember correctly Russell's rating went down this year despite not really doing anything to hurt it.

Bob Sanders Dreadlock
06-01-2008, 11:02 AM
Any picks on who will be the worst rated player in madden this year?

Go_Eagles77
06-01-2008, 11:56 AM
Any picks on who will be the worst rated player in madden this year?

Maybe Ethan Albright.

neko4
06-01-2008, 12:04 PM
Green Bay's WR core is now awesome-o

Driver 92, Jennings 93, Jones 84. Hopefully Ruvell and Jordy got good ratings

I kind of think Grant should be a bit higher, but 87 is fine since he still kind of unproven, i guess. Jolly should be higher, AJ hawk a bit lower. Barnett finally gets love!

saintsfan912
06-01-2008, 12:11 PM
They sure did screw Jhari Evans over. 84? Way too low for a guy that is probably one of the better Guards in the league. Roman Harper is a bit low too. At least they made Colston better, 94. Funny how Marc Brunell is a 77 though, way too high for his sorry ass. Shanle even got an 80, thats really high for him.

619
06-01-2008, 12:13 PM
Maybe Ethan Albright.

Dude made the pro bowl last year so I don't think so lol.

d34ng3l021
06-01-2008, 01:26 PM
I think this years Madden ratings are one of the worst in a while.

Vikes99ej
06-01-2008, 02:42 PM
I think this years Madden ratings are one of the worst in a while.

I'll second that.

Ryan Cook is an 87.

SuperMcGee
06-01-2008, 05:11 PM
Any picks on who will be the worst rated player in madden this year?

Ryan Neil wouldn't surprise me

saintsfan912
06-01-2008, 06:21 PM
I only got to see 1 Browns game this year so I have a question. Is Joe Thomas really that good? 97 overall is just wow.

d34ng3l021
06-01-2008, 06:45 PM
2nd year players rating are ridiculous. Joe Thomas is good, but a 97 overall? 95 overall for AD makes sense. Calvin Johnson didnt do anything to warrant a 91 or 92 overall. Jamaal Anderson had a sackless rookie season and his rating went up by 3 points.

GB12
06-01-2008, 06:46 PM
2nd year players rating are ridiculous. Joe Thomas is good, but a 97 overall? 95 overall for AD makes sense. Calvin Johnson didnt do anything to warrant a 91 or 92 overall. Jamaal Anderson had a sackless rookie season and his rating went up by 3 points.
Don't forget Patrick Willis at a 96.

saintsfan912
06-01-2008, 06:51 PM
At least guys like Patrick Willis, Dwayne Bowe, and Laron Landry played great to warrant their ratings.

I mean come on, Amobi Okoye in the 90s is just ridiculous.

Go_Eagles77
06-01-2008, 06:52 PM
Eagles CBs are gonna be beastly in Madden.

d34ng3l021
06-01-2008, 06:52 PM
Don't forget Patrick Willis at a 96.

Yeah. 96 is way too high for him. I mean I know last years class was ridiculously good (and damn it is. Joe Thomas, Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, Laron Landry, Patrick Willis, Darrel (sp) Revis...and the Falcons end up with frickin Jamaal Anderson).

But honestly. Tommy Kelly at 91 pretty much represents how accurate these ratings are.

saintsfan912
06-01-2008, 06:58 PM
I don't see how 96 is too high for Willis. He only led the NFL in tackles.

d34ng3l021
06-01-2008, 07:08 PM
Yeah. And thats it. I dont particularly think that tackles is a great stat to judge how good a defensive player is.

iowatreat54
06-01-2008, 07:13 PM
I love the Bear's Offense ratings:

Cedric Benson and Matt Forte both 80
Chris Williams 79

I don't have a problem with Williams being a 79, but I didn't expect Forte to be above him let alone an 80...I was thinking more around 75ish, but it's funny that Benson is the same rating as a 2nd round rookie lol

LonghornsLegend
06-01-2008, 09:19 PM
I don't see how 96 is too high for Willis. He only led the NFL in tackles.

I don't see how its too high either, I mean, its a a video game, the guy runs a 4.3, his measurables on a video game are always going to have his rating jacked up, at least he is that good on the field, Reggie Bush will always be a beast on video games but play nowhere near that level on the field...Athletically he is off the charts for a MLB, that alone is going to make him be rated high.


I think somebody like Jamaal Anderson is just given the extra points for not being a rookie anymore, his awareness probably went up, playing one year does that for you, thus representing the ratings change...

MetSox17
06-01-2008, 11:10 PM
Does anyone have the link that shows the individual ratings as well?

d34ng3l021
06-01-2008, 11:45 PM
I

I think somebody like Jamaal Anderson is just given the extra points for not being a rookie anymore, his awareness probably went up, playing one year does that for you, thus representing the ratings change...

Jamaal Anderson sucked though. Justin Blalock was all right and showed some potential. He stayed at 80. Chris Houston got a ton of playing time and got burned quite often, but he as well showed some potential. He went from an 80 to 78. Oh well.

NFLCommander
06-01-2008, 11:55 PM
Madden ratings are always terrible. The last time they were decent was Madden 05 as far as I can remember. People always get rated way too high or way too low. As soon as someone has a above average season it seems they get shot up to at least a 90 OVR. Players in bigger markets get a little rating boost too even if they are barely average. I could go on for days about these crap ratings, but I'll stop now.

PackerLegend
06-02-2008, 12:17 AM
Wow dudes stop complaining about the rosters so much. Yes some players are rated bad but not everyone is going to be rated perfectly to your taste. Theres over 1700 probably more like 2000 players that get ratings so ya. That site said these rosters are subject to change still and Madden does an ok job updating them during the season if you have online. Ya I think some ratings suck but someone else might think those ratings are good.

BlindSite
06-02-2008, 01:27 AM
Panthers always get shafted at cornerback and at offensive tackle. 2 positions of strength half the time are in the mid to early 80s its annoying to see good players IRL get ridden by crappy RL receivers.

GB12
06-03-2008, 03:24 PM
Hold up. This link (http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1604/madden-09-running-back-ratings/) from the original site that was posted in this thread came out with the RB ratings today. As you can see they do not match up with the other site that gave out all the positions.

Paranoidmoonduck
06-03-2008, 04:12 PM
I haven't seriously played Madden in years, but the overall ratings really don't matter. If the players perform in games and over the course of the simulated season as they should, that is what is important.

M.O.T.H.
06-03-2008, 05:21 PM
Felix Jones a 60 stiff arm? Felix has a very good stiff arm that he uses very effectively on a consistant basis...but now, I'm just nitpicking. Other than that, they made him pretty beastly.

Rice and Forte are rated a little higher than expected.

nobodyinparticular
06-03-2008, 05:34 PM
Did anyone catch that Tom Brady has a 99 arm strength? Better than Russell and Favre.

BamaFalcon59
06-03-2008, 05:36 PM
Looking at the RBs, they really just throw ratings on the all time greats. Not much thought put into them.

nobodyinparticular
06-03-2008, 05:42 PM
Does anyone have the link for the other positions?

BamaFalcon59
06-03-2008, 05:44 PM
They come out later.

M.O.T.H.
06-03-2008, 05:47 PM
Does anyone have the link for the other positions?

http://www.pastapadre.com/2645/madden-09-player-and-team-ratings?nggpage=2

This has every team.

BamaFalcon59
06-03-2008, 05:51 PM
But as previously mentioned, the two sites do not completely match up. Chris Redman is like 76/78 on one site, 82 on another, for example.

M.O.T.H.
06-03-2008, 05:55 PM
But as previously mentioned, the two sites do not completely match up. Chris Redman is like 76/78 on one site, 82 on another, for example.

Oh...I thought that was a different site.

BamaFalcon59
06-03-2008, 05:55 PM
Oh...I thought that was a different site.

They are, but I'm not sure which one is correct.

M.O.T.H.
06-03-2008, 05:58 PM
Most of them matchup perectly...I guess they just tweaked a few of them.

nobodyinparticular
06-03-2008, 06:33 PM
http://www.pastapadre.com/2645/madden-09-player-and-team-ratings?nggpage=2

This has every team.

Tommy Kelly a 91 according to that site? I'll take it...

M.O.T.H.
06-03-2008, 06:35 PM
Tommy Kelly a 91 according to that site? I'll take it...

Yeah...someone was complaining about that somewhere in here.

BlindSite
06-03-2008, 06:58 PM
If Tommy Kelly is a 91 then Damoine Lewis should be a 99.

SuperMcGee
06-03-2008, 07:22 PM
Looking at the RBs, they really just throw ratings on the all time greats. Not much thought put into them.

Thurmy just destroys everybody in catching. Doak is the only one within 15 of him.

iowatreat54
06-03-2008, 07:26 PM
Looking at the RBs, they really just throw ratings on the all time greats. Not much thought put into them.

yes, how sweetness doesn't have at least a 90 in elusiveness is beyond me and I can't take the all-time greats ratings seriously at all

Draft King
06-03-2008, 09:32 PM
I don't see how Greg Jennings is rated 3 points over Roddy White but we can't win 'em all I guess. Also, Boley should be 90, Brooking should be 87.

Go_Eagles77
06-03-2008, 09:43 PM
I don't see how Greg Jennings is rated 3 points over Roddy White but we can't win 'em all I guess. Also, Boley should be 90, Brooking should be 87.

Seriously? Jennings is much better at this point if you ask me. You should be happy with 3 points. Not that White isn't good, but Jennings should have been a pro bowler.

BamaFalcon59
06-03-2008, 09:48 PM
Seriously? Jennings is much better at this point if you ask me. You should be happy with 3 points. Not that White isn't good, but Jennings should have been a pro bowler.

And White shouldn't have been? More yards, less TDs, more receptions in a much worse situation offensively considering quarterbacks, offensive line, running game, and other wide receivers.

Go_Eagles77
06-03-2008, 09:50 PM
And White shouldn't have been? More yards, less TDs, more receptions in a much worse situation offensively considering quarterbacks, offensive line, running game, and other wide receivers.

Eh I guess I put too much stock in TDs. Not to mention Jennings had Favre throwing to him. idk

draftguru151
06-03-2008, 10:13 PM
Chris Johnson only being a 97 (same as McFadden) is lame. And Stewart being faster than Mendenhall and Kevin Smitht he same speed as Mendenhall. Bleh madden ratings are awful.

GB12
06-03-2008, 10:18 PM
And White shouldn't have been? More yards, less TDs, more receptions in a much worse situation offensively considering quarterbacks, offensive line, running game, and other wide receivers.
Jennings had twice as many TDs and 3 more yards per catch than White, there's not much of an argument you can make other than the QB situation.

Raiderz4Life
06-03-2008, 10:49 PM
BWHAAAAAAAAAA Romo on the same level as Brees? Oh man that made my day. Thank you. Romo is overrated just by being the Cowboys QB. It's ridiculous. He's above average at best.

His rating for dating hot chicks is a 99. No doubt about that.

when was the last time you saw Brees do this? http://youtube.com/watch?v=NjplYy_zT0Y

Raiderz4Life
06-03-2008, 10:54 PM
woah lol D.Mc an 85 and Fargas an 84? thats crazy.....i think McFadden should be a lil lower since he hasn't done anything to merit an 85

LonghornsLegend
06-03-2008, 11:00 PM
Jennings had twice as many TDs and 3 more yards per catch than White, there's not much of an argument you can make other than the QB situation.

Actually there is...There line was significantly worse, running game the same way, and receiving threats outside of Roddy compared to Driver, Jones, Robinson? Packers fans can't have it both ways, you want to be recognized for the best WR core in the NFL then that applies in all arguments...I'd hardly consider Jenkins and the rest of ATL's WR's anything close.


Basically if you put Roddy in that situation, his stats would of probably been the same as Jennings, so you just can't use stats in this situation and think that is the end of the conversation.

kalbears13
06-03-2008, 11:07 PM
Brady Quinn #22 overall pick- rookie rating=77
JDB #137 overall pick- rookie rating=77

Raiderz4Life
06-03-2008, 11:13 PM
That's cuz Booty better

LonghornsLegend
06-03-2008, 11:27 PM
Brady Quinn #22 overall pick- rookie rating=77
JDB #137 overall pick- rookie rating=77

LOL that is pretty weird about their rankings, Brohm is 3 pts better as well, you would like to think with at least one year on the bench they could have him around an 81 right now, at least...Their just backwards with how they rank alot of these guys.

kalbears13
06-03-2008, 11:40 PM
LOL that is pretty weird about their rankings, Brohm is 3 pts better as well, you would like to think with at least one year on the bench they could have him around an 81 right now, at least...Their just backwards with how they rank alot of these guys.

It said Brady Quinn is an 82 now but I was saying he was a 77 last year.

LonghornsLegend
06-03-2008, 11:50 PM
It said Brady Quinn is an 82 now but I was saying he was a 77 last year.

Ahhh ok, but yea as far as original rating that is pretty questionable...I wish I knew what methods they went by or how they came up with most of their ratings.

Go_Eagles77
06-04-2008, 12:28 PM
http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1607/madden-09-wide-receiver-ratings/

WR ratings.

I really don't know if these are right, compared to the other website with the screenshots, the ratings are pretty different.

Turtlepower
06-04-2008, 12:30 PM
http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1607/madden-09-wide-receiver-ratings/

WR ratings.

Wes Welker at 94 is a joke. And I think Fitz should at least be on par with TO at 98.

Go_Eagles77
06-04-2008, 12:34 PM
Wes Welker at 94 is a joke. And I think Fitz should at least be on par with TO at 98.

These are pretty questionable, since when was Malcolm Kelly as fast as Mario Manningham?

BamaFalcon59
06-04-2008, 12:40 PM
Funny fact:

Plaxico Burress, Donald Driver, Limas Sweed, and James Hardy are supposedly fast as Braylon Edwards and Roddy White. Oh, and Calvin Johnson is faster than just about everybody.

What a joke. Just because Burress, Sweed, and Hardy can get deep does not mean they are that fast. And Driver is as fast as him? That could be a joke. Gibril Wilson hawked him on that 90 something yard TD pass, but took a bad angle. Roddy would blow by them. BLOW BY THEM. How lame.

Go_Eagles77
06-04-2008, 12:41 PM
I hope these are wrong.

dbro
06-04-2008, 12:44 PM
I lol'ed when i saw the Saints were 87 and the Panthers were 86

GB12
06-04-2008, 03:27 PM
San Diego will be amazing this year. 99 RB in LT, Antonio Gates will be a 99, Philip Rivers is a 90, and WRs of 89 and 91.

And it seems like they are taking potential into account way too much on the ratings this year. I mean Calvin Johnson should no way have a 92.

iowatreat54
06-04-2008, 03:40 PM
Devin Hester a 81 at WR, with 83 hands and 100 speed = Madden domination

regoob2
06-04-2008, 04:17 PM
Devin Hester a 81 at WR, with 83 hands and 100 speed = Madden domination
Forte and Bennett got some good ratings.

PACKmanN
06-04-2008, 04:25 PM
Funny fact:

Plaxico Burress, Donald Driver, Limas Sweed, and James Hardy are supposedly fast as Braylon Edwards and Roddy White. Oh, and Calvin Johnson is faster than just about everybody.

What a joke. Just because Burress, Sweed, and Hardy can get deep does not mean they are that fast. And Driver is as fast as him? That could be a joke. Gibril Wilson hawked him on that 90 something yard TD pass, but took a bad angle. Roddy would blow by them. BLOW BY THEM. How lame.

How is Driver not 93 speed?

d34ng3l021
06-04-2008, 04:26 PM
They need to get rid of overall ratings. They just screw everything up. Give everyone their honest ratings and just have that be it. They have to tweak other stats so their overall fits their proper ranking (and even that doesnt work out well). I remember they would have to give Vick ridiculously low awareness and accuracy just because if they gave him the proper ratings, his overall would shoot up to a 99 overall because of his high speed.

nfrillman
06-04-2008, 06:30 PM
Holy crap. I didn't look at all the list, but I saw someone said that Welker is a 94, that's insane. I also looked at the Rams and didn't like what they did for Donnie Avery. He runs a 4.2-4.3 40 and ran a faster 3-cone drill than anyone has ever run at the combine, and it wasn't even close. He ran a 6.30 and the next closest ever was 6.45. His short shuttle was a 3.91. And all those translate into this:

96 speed
97 acceleration
97 agility

All me to call bullsh*t on that. He should be freaking 100 on acceleration and agility if the ratings were anything but pandering to the public by making sure the guys they hear about are rated highest. No one should be higher on acceleration and agility. There are 12 rookie WR ranked higher than him. He is a 76, some of those guys were in the 80's. Top WR rating, Limas Sweed.....9th WR taken......umm right.

I am going to give Madden the middle finger this year based on the ratings I have seen thus far. Many make no damn sense at all, which makes it obvious that they are just rating players like your average joe would instead of doing some actual homework and producing an accurate representation of the players. Hell, I'd even take ratings that are semi-intelligent. Brady has the strongest arm ever....ever, Eli Manning is one of the most accurate QB's in the NFL, Leinart is better than Warner, Rivers is the 5th most accurate QB in the NFL, and Calvin Johnson deserves a 92 all the sudden. Those are just some of the conclusions EA made from last season, amazing.

Go_Eagles77
06-04-2008, 06:34 PM
Holy crap. I didn't look at all the list, but I saw someone said that Welker is a 94, that's insane. I also looked at the Rams and didn't like what they did for Donnie Avery. He runs a 4.2-4.3 40 and ran a faster 3-cone drill than anyone has ever run at the combine, and it wasn't even close. He ran a 6.30 and the next closest ever was 6.45. His short shuttle was a 3.91. And all those translate into this:

96 speed
97 acceleration
97 agility

All me to call bullsh*t on that. He should be freaking 100 on acceleration and agility if the ratings were anything but pandering to the public by making sure the guys they hear about are rated highest. No one should be higher on acceleration and agility. There are 12 rookie WR ranked higher than him. He is a 76, some of those guys were in the 80's. Top WR rating, Limas Sweed.....9th WR taken......umm right.

I am going to give Madden the middle finger this year based on the ratings I have seen thus far. Many make no damn sense at all, which makes it obvious that they are just rating players like your average joe would instead of doing some actual homework and producing an accurate representation of the players. Hell, I'd even take ratings that are semi-intelligent. Brady has the strongest arm ever....ever, Eli Manning is one of the most accurate QB's in the NFL, Leinart is better than Warner, Rivers is the 5th most accurate QB in the NFL, and Calvin Johnson deserves a 92 all the sudden. Those are just some of the conclusions EA made from last season, amazing.

I have no idea how Eddie Royal has a higher speed than Avery, didn't Royal run in the 4.5's in the combine?

tEk
06-04-2008, 06:35 PM
I think EA really screwed up some of these. It seems like these ratings were made by the general public, not even the general football watching public. How else can you explain these:

1. Eli being a 93- It's like some random guy said, "Oh that's that guy who had that awesome play in the Superbowl, he is the man." So now all the sudden Eli is the 6th best QB in the league??? He's the 7th most accurate?? Based on what, his 29th place finish in completion percentage last year??? Allow me to call bullsh*t on that.
2. Philip Rivers being a 90- What did he do to deserve that?? Again it seems like some random guy said, "Oh, the QB on the Chargers..the Chargers are great so their QB must be awesome." He has started 2 seasons and his QB rating dropped 10 points last year. How does an 82.4 rating translate to a 90? There's only 4 QB's in the league more accurate than Rivers??? Gimme an effin break, he finished 23rd in completion percentage.
3. Matt Leinart- I don't know what Warner's rating is, but if Leinart really has a higher rating than Warner thats idiotic. So Leinart is more accurate than Roethlisberger, Shaub, McNabb, and all other QB's in league besides 11???? Interesting development, where was I when this happened?
4. Brady's arm strength- Ummm, allow me to differ with the thought that Brady has the strongest arm not only in the NFL, but also stronger than all the all time greats.
5. Romo's speed- Romo is still far to fast. He has good pocket awareness and is a good scrambler, but he isn't that fast.

My biggest beef with the ratings in general seems to be accuracy. It seems to me that they just inflated the accuracies of guys that they wanted to be good........Eli, Leinart, Rivers, etc

I don't think I will be buying Madden based on how screwed up some of these ratings are. They are just pandering to the general public instead of attempting to make an accurate simulation of the NFL.good summary of everyones posts.

M.O.T.H.
06-04-2008, 06:40 PM
I have no idea how Eddie Royal has a higher speed than Avery, didn't Royal run in the 4.5's in the combine?

High 4.3's...he timed faster than Avery...at the combine atleast.

Go_Eagles77
06-04-2008, 06:49 PM
High 4.3's...he timed faster than Avery...at the combine atleast.

Oh. I didn't really see much of Royal and for some reason he just doesn't strike me as a very fast player when I think of him. Quick yes, but not blazing fast like an Avery or DeSean Jackson. I'm sure that's just my interpretation and not reality though.

BamaFalcon59
06-04-2008, 07:09 PM
High 4.3's...he timed faster than Avery...at the combine atleast.

Royal ran a 4.44.

BamaFalcon59
06-04-2008, 07:13 PM
How is Driver not 93 speed?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QEDbccaYHgI

If a teammate wasn't there Gibril Wilson would have tackled him. He hawked him out of nowhere. And Driver is not as fast as Roddy or Braylon.

M.O.T.H.
06-04-2008, 07:23 PM
Royal ran a 4.44.

I could have swore he was timed at 4.39.

draftguru151
06-04-2008, 08:57 PM
Scott and somewhere else say 4.39.

Vikes99ej
06-04-2008, 09:10 PM
These are pretty questionable, since when was Malcolm Kelly as fast as Mario Manningham?

Well, I believe both ran comparable times at the combine this year.

awfullyquiet
06-05-2008, 11:20 AM
I won't buy madden until they make ai defense any good.

or bring back accelerated clock. **** that.

nfrillman
06-06-2008, 01:19 AM
Another thing they need to do is improve receiving AI. When you are scrambling and their route ends they need to f*ckin move instead of just standing there like slapasses. Also when you're running for your life with the QB I think it's safe for the WR to call off the 50 yard route, come back to the ball a-holes.

PackerLegend
06-06-2008, 01:32 AM
Another thing they need to do is improve receiving AI. When you are scrambling and their route ends they need to f*ckin move instead of just standing there like slapasses. Also when you're running for your life with the QB I think it's safe for the WR to call off the 50 yard route, come back to the ball a-holes.

lol yes I love when those things happen. I also love when the RB runs out to the flat and is wide open you throw him the ball but he always runs so far that........ A)he cant make the catch in bounds or B) makes the catch inbounds but you can never get him turned in time he just steps out anyways.

LonghornsLegend
06-06-2008, 01:33 AM
I guess the rankings are very important for online play, but for years I have been editing my rosters on my own as soon as I buy the game, and saving them how they should be...Some of the gripes in this thread, I fix those on my own, purpose is like nfrillman said most of us want a real football simulation, not nfl blitz or skewed stats, I will make guys worse on my team if they are, sometimes Ill move a guys speed down but acceleration up, all depends, I just know Madden seems like they throw stats together and they have no basis what so ever for how they grade players...Its not based off combine times, because those don't come out right, which is puzzling.


One thing I noticed is Felix Jones is faster, and quicker then Chris Johnson, is that because he plays for the Cowboys, or was drafted higher? I mean don't get me wrong I'm certainly not mad, but what are they basing these stats off of, film, gametape, popular players, because I thought Chris Johnson would be one of the fastest backs on the game but they juiced Felix Jones up like Reggie Bush and Brian Westbrook right off the bat, and guys who ran faster times are not as fast.


Rivers is also puzzling, the guy struggled the entire year, up and down, some games were horrible, I give him props for pulling it together down the stretch, but they were too generous for some of these guys who made the playoffs...O well, I'll get it and have fun with it for awhile, but I'm more interested in trying to find out if Head Coach will have the same player ratings system as Madden, or their own.

Sniper
06-06-2008, 01:49 AM
These are pretty questionable, since when was Malcolm Kelly as fast as Mario Manningham?

Forget watching game tape for this. Combine 40 times is where it's at!

islandboy843
06-06-2008, 03:29 AM
The TE ratings are out.

PackerLegend
06-06-2008, 10:37 AM
The TE ratings are out.


Here is the link to them

http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1609/madden-09-tight-end-ratings/

Donald Lee is an 83 I think he should be about an 85 but whatever.

nfrillman
06-06-2008, 06:19 PM
I guess the rankings are very important for online play

That's why I'm upset about the ratings. Even on this years game there are teams you basically can't play against if the person is any good. From things like putting Champ Bailey at WR, people just running backwards with the QB so it's impossible to get pressure, and a CB almost always getting toasted in one on one coverage if the WR's speed is 3 or 4 points higher. Example- Mike McKenzie would not get shredded 100% of the time by Hester running a streaks route. I don't care if Hester is faster, that's idiotically unrealistic. If a team's WR's are faster than your CB's then you are basically forced to play cover 2 all the time, even if it's Yamon Figurs of the Ravens with his 67 overall and 97 speed matched up against McKenzie, Woodson, etc.........stupid.

PACKmanN
06-06-2008, 06:51 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QEDbccaYHgI

If a teammate wasn't there Gibril Wilson would have tackled him. He hawked him out of nowhere. And Driver is not as fast as Roddy or Braylon.

I didn't say Driver is as fast as them, I asked how he isn't a 93...

And Favre under threw that ball, Wilson was half way there before Driver got the ball. And I didn't see the teammate do anything to Wilson, I saw Wilson try and tackle Driver. Try again.

BlindSite
06-06-2008, 10:09 PM
Why does DeAngelo Williams only have a 60 stiff arm.

He's not the biggest guy, but he always, always plants that hand in someone's chest and get's a few. He's got one of the best stiff arms in the NFC for such a small guy.

yourfavestoner
06-07-2008, 12:44 AM
Why does DeAngelo Williams only have a 60 stiff arm.

He's not the biggest guy, but he always, always plants that hand in someone's chest and get's a few. He's got one of the best stiff arms in the NFC for such a small guy.

Because EA doesn't actually watch football.

islandboy843
06-07-2008, 12:50 AM
FB Ratings

http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1614/madden-09-fullback-ratings/


OL Ratings


http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1613/madden-09-offensive-line-ratings/

GB12
06-07-2008, 12:57 AM
Mark Tauscher's the highest rated right tackle. Nice.

Go_Eagles77
06-07-2008, 09:03 AM
Leonard Davis rated higher than Shawn Andrews? Also yay for having the worst FB in the league. Can't argue with that though, considering he never played it before.

Our OL will be beastly, the worst player is a 88.

Hwoarang
06-07-2008, 10:14 AM
FB Ratings

http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1614/madden-09-fullback-ratings/



Karney an 85. Can't be mad I guess. He's arguably the best FB in the NFC.

saintsfan912
06-07-2008, 10:18 AM
Well Jhari Evans gets underrated again of course. It's ok, he'll just dominate again this year in real life.

draftguru151
06-07-2008, 10:43 AM
Wow Mauia is overrated. He was ridiculously mediocre last year.

PACKmanN
06-07-2008, 12:49 PM
It's going to be sick using the 2 FB formation that the Packers use, 85 and 86. :)

Wow Sitton is getting some respect, a 76 overall.

GB12
06-07-2008, 01:58 PM
It's going to be sick using the 2 FB formation that the Packers use, 85 and 86. :)

Wow Sitton is getting some respect, a 76 overall.
I don't think you're able to use that in Madden.

Vikes99ej
06-07-2008, 03:08 PM
How does Bryant McKinnie's rating keep going up every year?

yourfavestoner
06-09-2008, 07:20 PM
Greg Jones kicks ass. I'm excited.

MetSox17
06-09-2008, 09:35 PM
Greg Jones kicks ass. I'm excited.

Did his blocking really improve that much?

In the latest update for Ps2 he was 95 overall.

JeffSamardzijaIRISH
06-09-2008, 10:12 PM
Greg Jones is a beast on madden. I always move him back to HB and then truckstick everyone!!!

islandboy843
06-10-2008, 07:54 AM
DE Ratings- http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1616/madden-09-defensive-end-ratings/


Mario gets some love

WTF Indianapolis has both DE's at 95

Vanden Bosch never gets enough credit.

Go_Eagles77
06-10-2008, 10:29 AM
I really hope we're able to switch player positions.

BamaFalcon59
06-10-2008, 11:22 AM
Abraham has the same speed and acceleration as Jamaal Anderson. That shows the inteptitude of EA, seeing how Abraham is one of the most feared speed rushers in the league while Anderson is clearly not.

Gay Ork Wang
06-10-2008, 11:30 AM
how is none of the bears DE over 90?
thats stupid

ATLDirtyBirds
06-10-2008, 12:03 PM
Abraham has the same speed and acceleration as Jamaal Anderson. That shows the inteptitude of EA, seeing how Abraham is one of the most feared speed rushers in the league while Anderson is clearly not.



No. You must be joking. Mike Vick once said Abraham beat him in a race.

Go_Eagles77
06-10-2008, 02:35 PM
Justin Tuck is very over rated. Not saying he won't be great one day but at this point he has no business being rated higher than Trent Cole.

Im_a_Romosexual
06-10-2008, 02:41 PM
Justin Tuck is very over rated. Not saying he won't be great one day but at this point he has no business being rated higher than Trent Cole.

Definately agree. A mid 90's rating means you are Elite at that position and I'm not sure Tuck is yet. He's Very good, but a 89/90 would be a better rating IMO, not 94

RaiderNation
06-10-2008, 07:06 PM
98 throw power 86 acc and 72 speed= JaMarcus Russell....... i love it

d34ng3l021
06-10-2008, 07:29 PM
lol.

Cullen Jenkins at 90?
Mario Williams at 97? I love him, but he doesnt deserve that yet...

And best of all:

Elvis Dumervil. 90 overall.

And yes. Theres the Jamaal Anderson and John Abraham thing. lol.

Hwoarang
06-10-2008, 07:38 PM
Mario Williams a 97? WTF? He's developing into a damn good ball player but he's a early 90's at best.

regoob2
06-10-2008, 08:14 PM
how is none of the bears DE over 90?
thats stupidOgun didnt get a lot of sacks, that's all EA looks at. BS

PACKmanN
06-11-2008, 04:12 PM
I don't think you're able to use that in Madden.

Thats strange because I remember doing it last year with 2 HB and 1 FB.

Ok I will admit, Jenkins is solid vs. the run, but god damn a 92? SICK!!!!111

The Dynasty
06-11-2008, 04:18 PM
Didnt see this posted. The DT Ratings.

http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1617/madden-09-defensive-tackle-ratings/

Prefect for the Vikings DT.

M.O.T.H.
06-11-2008, 04:21 PM
Ratliff w/ an 84 is a fine start after his 1st season starting. Should see a steady increase, imo...if he stays healthy the whole year.

Go_Eagles77
06-11-2008, 04:22 PM
Mike Patterson is under rated, should be at least an 87.

islandboy843
06-11-2008, 05:00 PM
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh Big AL is number 1.

The Dynasty
06-11-2008, 05:46 PM
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh Big AL is number 1.

Well...Technically He is Tied for #1 with Pat Williams. He just at top because of His last name is First in alphabetical order.

islandboy843
06-11-2008, 06:16 PM
Well...Technically He is Tied for #1 with Pat Williams. He just at top because of His last name is First in alphabetical order.


Come on man...Albert would have been DPOY if he wasn't hurt.

PACKmanN
06-11-2008, 06:39 PM
The one that sticks out the most are Rogers with 94, Redding with 91, and Kelly with a 91.

The Dynasty
06-11-2008, 06:57 PM
Come on man...Albert would have been DPOY if he wasn't hurt.

Hey Im just Saying lol. I got to stick up for my Boy. Albert had a good year he deserves the 98.

yourfavestoner
06-12-2008, 07:39 PM
Big John!!!

Hwoarang
06-12-2008, 07:40 PM
Can't believe EA got Sed Ellis and Dorsey right.

Go_Eagles77
06-14-2008, 02:05 PM
CB ratings
http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1622/madden-09-cornerback-ratings/

Eagles look amazing.

yourfavestoner
06-14-2008, 02:50 PM
Nnamdi with 99 man coverage. Damn.

BTW, did they ever post LB ratings?

Go_Eagles77
06-14-2008, 03:43 PM
Yep

OLB - http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1619/madden-09-outside-linebacker-ratings/
MLB - http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1621/madden-09-middle-linebacker-ratings/

regoob2
06-14-2008, 03:54 PM
That's bull **** they put Charles Tillman's speed down to 88.

Jimmy
06-14-2008, 05:16 PM
madden is suggesting that out of the 40 corners ranked, champ bailey is 37th in tackling. thats ****ing rediculous

ATLDirtyBirds
06-14-2008, 05:43 PM
Is Michael Boley really an 87? I'm going to be very busy editing. People must die.

d34ng3l021
06-14-2008, 06:27 PM
So...Asante Samuels can cover man to man just as well as Champ Bailey.

And when did Carriker have a breakout season to deserve an 89?

And Michael Boley...an 87. Really? Guys like Keith Brooking, Morlon Greenwood, Cato June, Daryl Smith, and Rocky McKintosh are all better than Boley? Ok.

BlindSite
06-14-2008, 07:26 PM
Carolina's DTs are way, way underrated.

Gay Ork Wang
06-14-2008, 07:30 PM
How is sheldon brown better than both of the bears CBs?

Eaglez.Fan
06-14-2008, 07:32 PM
Maybe because he is? (well maybe Vasher is)

Eaglez.Fan
06-14-2008, 07:36 PM
How the hell is Justin Tuck a 94. He is back-up for **** sakes. Trent Cole made the pro-bowl with 12.5 sacks. Yes, Tuck had 10 but a frigen 94 WTH!!!!!!!!

Gay Ork Wang
06-14-2008, 07:42 PM
Maybe because he is? (well maybe Vasher is)
Tillman > Brown and it should be at last 5 pts difference

LTgiants
06-14-2008, 08:10 PM
How the hell is Justin Tuck a 94. He is back-up for **** sakes. Trent Cole made the pro-bowl with 12.5 sacks. Yes, Tuck had 10 but a frigen 94 WTH!!!!!!!!

he aint a back up anymore though but ya maybe 94 is a little too high for tuck but o well im gonna enjoy playing with him lolhttp://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon10.gif

nfrillman
06-14-2008, 08:38 PM
And when did Carriker have a breakout season to deserve an 89?

Ummm, Carriker had a breakout season last year. I watched every Rams game and Carriker was a freaking stud. Based on some of the other 2nd year player ratings I think he got ripped off. Joe Thomas a 97, Patrick Willis a 96, Calvin Johnson a 92, Amobi Okoye a 92, Marshawn Lynch a 90, etc. I'm not saying these guys aren't or won't be good, but let's let them repeat the performance before giving them a 96 and 97. As for Johnson, let's let him do jack sh*t before making him a 92. Lynch's rating is fine for me, Okoye should not be higher than Carriker, everytime someone talks about Carriker they are saying great things. Carriker being overrated on here, gimme a freaking break. If anything he got underrated compared to other 2nd year players. With so many horrendous ratings on here, Carriker's 89 is ridiculous rating to zero in on.

islandboy843
06-14-2008, 09:10 PM
I'm so glad they did not overrate Cromartie

regoob2
06-14-2008, 09:43 PM
How the hell is Justin Tuck a 94. He is back-up for **** sakes. Trent Cole made the pro-bowl with 12.5 sacks. Yes, Tuck had 10 but a frigen 94 WTH!!!!!!!!Maybe because he is better

GermanSaint
06-15-2008, 02:39 AM
all and all the MLBs so far are rated way too high !

i love to play franchise mode , but there seem to be no reason drafting alot of MLBs if there are more good starters than teams (3-4 teams included )

oh they owned jason david and snubbed mike karney big time !

iowatreat54
06-15-2008, 07:28 PM
haven't seen this anywhere, and too lazy to look through all 10 pages, so if it's been posted already I apologize

http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1618/madden-09-safety-ratings/

you can utilize a shotgun package that puts DMC at QB and another RB in the slot, with the FB in the backfield in the Raiders playbook

d34ng3l021
06-15-2008, 08:58 PM
Ummm, Carriker had a breakout season last year. I watched every Rams game and Carriker was a freaking stud. Based on some of the other 2nd year player ratings I think he got ripped off. Joe Thomas a 97, Patrick Willis a 96, Calvin Johnson a 92, Amobi Okoye a 92, Marshawn Lynch a 90, etc. I'm not saying these guys aren't or won't be good, but let's let them repeat the performance before giving them a 96 and 97. As for Johnson, let's let him do jack sh*t before making him a 92. Lynch's rating is fine for me, Okoye should not be higher than Carriker, everytime someone talks about Carriker they are saying great things. Carriker being overrated on here, gimme a freaking break. If anything he got underrated compared to other 2nd year players. With so many horrendous ratings on here, Carriker's 89 is ridiculous rating to zero in on.

I was talking in accordance to previous Maddens. A 2nd year player getting an 89 usually meant that he went to the pro bowl or was rookie of the year (Cadillac was a 89 90 i believe). Carriker was not at that level.

BaLLiN
06-15-2008, 10:45 PM
haven't seen this anywhere, and too lazy to look through all 10 pages, so if it's been posted already I apologize

http://www.sportsgamer.com/content/1618/madden-09-safety-ratings/

you can utilize a shotgun package that puts DMC at QB and another RB in the slot, with the FB in the backfield in the Raiders playbook

thats crazy, couldnt you just put him at QB though, really dont need to create a whole formation for it

Shane P. Hallam
06-15-2008, 10:48 PM
Well, I think it is nice for online and to just use a few times a game.

BaLLiN
06-15-2008, 11:00 PM
How the hell is Justin Tuck a 94. He is back-up for **** sakes. Trent Cole made the pro-bowl with 12.5 sacks. Yes, Tuck had 10 but a frigen 94 WTH!!!!!!!!

its because Justin Tuck is like a black moses, deal with it

DJC
06-15-2008, 11:04 PM
Chicago Bears Ratings
http://www.operationsports.com/newspost.php?id=252282

Indianapolis Colts Ratings
http://www.operationsports.com/newspost.php?id=252386

Philadelphia Eagles Ratings
http://www.operationsports.com/newspost.php?id=252460

Vikes99ej
06-15-2008, 11:14 PM
Carolina's DTs are way, way underrated.

Are talking about that fatass and Damione Lewis? Give me a break.

yourfavestoner
06-15-2008, 11:54 PM
Did the safety ratings ever get posted?

nfrillman
06-15-2008, 11:58 PM
I was talking in accordance to previous Maddens. A 2nd year player getting an 89 usually meant that he went to the pro bowl or was rookie of the year (Cadillac was a 89 90 i believe). Carriker was not at that level.

Well in relation to other Madden games it may be out of step, but it seems they threw logic and reason out the window this year. I guess they figure a good way to please everyone is to basically inflate ratings across the board.

yourfavestoner
06-16-2008, 12:05 AM
Well in relation to other Madden games it may be out of step, but it seems they threw logic and reason out the window this year. I guess they figure a good way to please everyone is to basically inflate ratings across the board.

Bingo. It seems like the only thing they care about is sales at this point in the franchise.

regoob2
06-16-2008, 08:22 AM
Did the safety ratings ever get posted?Not yet, all I play really play is franchise so I hope they post the FA's and there ratings.

Bills2083
06-16-2008, 08:32 AM
84 seems a little high for Kyle Williams IMO.

regoob2
06-16-2008, 09:56 AM
84 seems a little high for Kyle Williams IMO.
ya, some how brandon mcgowan got a 83?!

Paranoidmoonduck
06-16-2008, 08:06 PM
thats crazy, couldnt you just put him at QB though, really dont need to create a whole formation for it

According to the article, it's just a formation sub. So there isn't really a "wildcat" formation.

Realistically, the plays which would need to be run out of it are pretty specific. A lot of option handoffs, a lot of pulling linemen, a lot of short routes over the middle, etc.

BlindSite
06-17-2008, 12:43 AM
Are talking about that fatass and Damione Lewis? Give me a break.

No where did I say they need to be in the 90s but a good portion of Jenkins playing time was taken up by Lewis and he produced.

Lewis should be around an 86 and Kemoeatu around an 85.

Walker and scott probably hovering between 78 and 80.

That's all I want.