View Full Version : Best SR RB in the draft
Byrd430
06-01-2008, 12:01 PM
I was looking at the running back class as I'm focusing on QBs and RBs right now. There seems to be a large number of underclassmen that's dominating the RB position this year. So I wanna know who do you think is the best SR RB coming out this year and where will he go?
neko4
06-01-2008, 12:05 PM
James Davis. And I dont think anyone is close. Foster and Brown are probably the closest.
Staubach12
06-01-2008, 12:13 PM
Davis, and I don't think it's close, either.
adschofield
06-01-2008, 01:41 PM
Foster, and it's really not close
I'll give Davis the slight nod over Ringer, although Ringer might be the better/higher rated prospect, with Brown at #3.
I don't see the appeal in Foster.
Brent
06-01-2008, 01:55 PM
Davis for sure.
LonghornsLegend
06-01-2008, 01:58 PM
Yea I agree, James Davis was the guy who popped into my mind and I think he has it locked up...I really liked him if he came out this year, he is a tough runner with good speed, he's going to make a good pro.
Race for the Heisman
06-01-2008, 02:10 PM
I like Davis myself, although I don't think either he nor Foster will be drafted high. Obviously this depends on the number of juniors that declare but I'd say 3rd-4th for Davis and 5th-ish for Foster.
James Davis runs away with this one. Same guy who arguably was a first round talent last year as well.
doingthisinsteadofwork
06-01-2008, 02:21 PM
Didnt Davis declare for this draft and then back out?Or am I thinking of someone else?
LonghornsLegend
06-01-2008, 02:24 PM
Didnt Davis declare for this draft and then back out?Or am I thinking of someone else?
Yea he changed his mind at the last minute, I thought he was a 2nd rounder in this draft as well.
Paranoidmoonduck
06-01-2008, 02:26 PM
It's definitely James Davis heading into the season, but there are some more physically impressive runners about that could leapfrog him with a breakout season. I'd look mostly in Andre Brown's direction (I've said this for two year running now though).
BuddyCHRIST
06-01-2008, 02:26 PM
Davis did declare and back out and I personally think he's underrated as a prospect. If Tommy Bowden didn't have brain farts and go games only giving him the ball about 8 times he would put up even bigger numbers. He also really looks like a natural with great vision.
badgerbacker
06-01-2008, 03:30 PM
Voted Davis. I've always been a big Marlon Lucky fan though and think he could be a great player.
CashmoneyDrew
06-01-2008, 04:26 PM
I think this is actually a pretty good year potentially for senior running back's compared to years past.
Yatta!
06-01-2008, 04:56 PM
Davis by a mile. Foster is next and I think Javon Ringer could rise up draft boards, I expect a big year from him.
Don Vito
06-01-2008, 04:57 PM
Davis is the #1 guy but I am a big fan of Marlon Lucky, Andre Brown, and Javon Ringer.
OSUGiants17
06-01-2008, 05:43 PM
1. Davis
2. Ringer
3. Foster
4. Lucky
keylime_5
06-01-2008, 06:40 PM
Ringer gets hurt too much but is a very good back. Davis since he's always healthy and is underrated really.
Watch out for Jeremiah Johnson from Oregon
and the 2010 RB class is stacked so some of them will enter this year
foozball
06-02-2008, 12:36 AM
if andre brown gets his carries, he could really jump up. he has the potential to be a monster. insane size with enough speed to run away from people. i think he could make a rashard mendenhall type leap with a good year...could be a jonathan stewart type RB
Staubach12
06-02-2008, 08:57 AM
Watch out for Jeremiah Johnson from Oregon
and the 2010 RB class is stacked so some of them will enter this year
Johnson could be very good this year, considering how well he fits in that offense.
I hate the Oregon offense - it's a prissy college offense imo. Which is all fine for college, and best of luck to the Ducks there, but not when it comes to the Draft. It eliminates vision from a runningback, or rather masks a lack of vision if that's the case with the back, nevermind having to read a defense.
This is why there were some questions about Jonathan Stewart which hurt him a bit, but ultimately he's such an exceptional pro prospect who was held back in a college offense, it didn't hurt him too much. This Johnson kid has speed and will be highly productive in college, I agree, but I'll be hesitant about expecting more than that.
Santonio10
06-02-2008, 10:56 AM
I like Davis and Lucky but I'll give the enge to Davis. Lucky is very versatile but I just think Davis is the better player. Ringer's not far behind in third either, and then Foster behind him.
Mr. Stiller
06-02-2008, 11:16 AM
Javon Ringer is going to be the best RB of the Senior Class. 5'9 210lbs and runs very very hard. He's got the speed and compact power to be a solid NFL Caliber RB.
last season made me think that James Davis is overrated.
I don't think Davis will be a 1st round pick, as he might not be special in any one area, but he'll be a great 2nd round pick imo.
But I like your assessment of Ringer, Stills. He might make the case for late 1st round pick, I think. If CJ Spiller wasn't Marshall Faulk 2.0, Ringer could be the poor man's version one might say.
Mr. Stiller
06-02-2008, 12:44 PM
I don't think Davis will be a 1st round pick, as he might not be special in any one area, but he'll be a great 2nd round pick imo.
But I like your assessment of Ringer, Stills. He might make the case for late 1st round pick, I think. If CJ Spiller wasn't Marshall Faulk 2.0, Ringer could be the poor man's version one might say.
I think CJ Spiller is Willie Parker frankly.
After watching a lot of Clemson last year (Ricky Sapp and Phil Merling). I believe that Spiller doesn't have amazing Vision. He seems to try to go one way and if that doesn't work, run faster. He doesn't have Faulks ability to see the field. IMO>
Byrd430
06-02-2008, 03:10 PM
Really I thought Arian Foster would get more love than this. He might break UT records this year (and UT has put out some solid backs). He's got good size and good speed.
I agree that James Davis is the best, but didn't think it was a complete landslide....
Also, I have a question on Marlon Lucky. What was the whole deal about him being found in a hotel room unconscious or something? Don't know how long ago it's been, but I think that's what happened? or something? somebody clarify?
BamaFalcon59
06-03-2008, 11:52 AM
James Davis, Marlon Lucky, and Javon Ringer are the top three senior backs for me.
Lucky is underrated. I think he ends up being the top guy. Very good size at 6'0" 215 and very explosive. Also very good pass catching ability. Better vision than CJ Spiller or James Davis.
YAYareaRB
06-03-2008, 12:14 PM
Javon Ringer is going to be the best RB of the Senior Class. 5'9 210lbs and runs very very hard. He's got the speed and compact power to be a solid NFL Caliber RB.
last season made me think that James Davis is overrated.
How so?.. I'm interested to hear your argument on how Davis isn't better than Ringer and how he's "overrated". Overrated guys don't usually pull off two straight 1000+ yard seasons while sharing carries with one of the best backs of the 2010 class and still averaging over 5 yards a carry.
BamaFalcon59
06-03-2008, 12:32 PM
How so?.. I'm interested to hear your argument on how Davis isn't better than Ringer and how he's "overrated". Overrated guys don't usually pull off two straight 1000+ yard seasons while sharing carries with one of the best backs of the 2010 class and still averaging over 5 yards a carry.
I'd say Ringer is faster, has better pass catching ability, and has better vision. Davis has better size. Both are tough runners.
Marlon Lucky is also an excellent reciever i think he had a little over 70 receptions last year, but i say none of these RB are good NFL RB
Draft King
06-03-2008, 04:09 PM
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CashmoneyDrew
06-03-2008, 04:53 PM
Really I thought Arian Foster would get more love than this. He might break UT records this year (and UT has put out some solid backs). He's got good size and good speed.
Not to mention Foster is exceptional at receiving and he's a fairly good pass blocker. He just needs to work on protecting the football better and if he surprises people with his 40 time he might move up draft boards some.
draftguru151
06-03-2008, 05:32 PM
I really don't get how you can say Ringer has better vision than Davis. Davis' vision is ridiculous. Ringer has a solid build and good speed but Davis has amazing vision, great balance, good power and decent break away ability.
As for Spiller, last year he looked a lot more like Reggie Bush in the pros than anything else. He danced in the backfield and tried to bounce it outside whenever he could. Definitely needs to step his game up to deserve the 1st round talk he is getting. There is no doubt in my mind Davis is the better pro at this point.
Mr. Stiller
06-03-2008, 11:21 PM
I'd say Ringer is faster, has better pass catching ability, and has better vision. Davis has better size. Both are tough runners.
Thanks for saving me the trouble.
Mr. Stiller
06-03-2008, 11:25 PM
I really don't get how you can say Ringer has better vision than Davis. Davis' vision is ridiculous. Ringer has a solid build and good speed but Davis has amazing vision, great balance, good power and decent break away ability.
As for Spiller, last year he looked a lot more like Reggie Bush in the pros than anything else. He danced in the backfield and tried to bounce it outside whenever he could. Definitely needs to step his game up to deserve the 1st round talk he is getting. There is no doubt in my mind Davis is the better pro at this point.
So is Ringers, but again, You disagree so as every other time we got in an argument.. I must be wrong.
I watched both guys a ton last season as I was looking at a few guys from each team.
In my estimation I believe Ringer has better downfield vision, Better hands, Better speed, and is more explosive.
I give Davis the slight edge in power as Ringers compact frame allows him to get under the tacklers for a pop.
I like Davis, but he doesn't wow me. I think Ringer is a better player.
SKim172
06-05-2008, 07:34 PM
What about these guys?
Luke Lippincott, Nevada
Darrell Mack, Utah
Rodney Ferguson, New Mexico
Ian Johnson, Boise State
Tyrell Fenroy, La-Lafayette
Tarrion Adams, Tulsa
Small school names, but all of them 1000-yard rushers last season. And with the exception of Javon Ringer, all these guys averaged more yardage per game than any of the other rising seniors.
Personally, I don't know what to make of this class. I'm really not too impressed by what I've seen of any of them so far. Admittedly, most of them play on teams I don't pay attention to and I haven't really clued in on them as players. But in my opinion, with the top eight backs declared early, it's going to be a very poor draft for running backs, highlighted by two or three underclassmen. And I'll give the small-school guys a chance of competing with the big guys for a draft spot.
Hwoarang
06-05-2008, 07:38 PM
What about these guys?
Luke Lippincott, Nevada
Darrell Mack, Utah
Rodney Ferguson, New Mexico
Ian Johnson, Boise State
Tyrell Fenroy, La-Lafayette
Tarrion Adams, Tulsa
Small school names, but all of them 1000-yard rushers last season. And with the exception of Javon Ringer, all these guys averaged more yardage per game than any of the other rising seniors.
Personally, I don't know what to make of this class. I'm really not too impressed by what I've seen of any of them so far. Admittedly, most of them play on teams I don't pay attention to and I haven't really clued in on them as players. But in my opinion, with the top eight backs declared early, it's going to be a very poor draft for running backs, highlighted by two or three underclassmen. And I'll give the small-school guys a chance of competing with the big guys for a draft spot.
I've seen Fenroy play. He's a mix of MJD and Brian Westbrook but not on the same level if that makes sense.
Consensus #1 has to be James Davis pre-season.
Ian Johnson is a senior? Too bad he's not on the list then, he should be.
I'd put him #3 behind Davis and Ringer, I think. Certainly as a draft prospect he'll go after those guys, but I think he'll be underrated/lukewarm regarded like Mike Hart (not that Johnson will fall to the 6th round) just because there's no special measurables and the size isn't great.
PS. I just noticed Johnson had 4 carries for 11 yards in the bowl game against East Carolina. What happened there, did he get injured or something?
draftguru151
06-05-2008, 07:49 PM
So is Ringers, but again, You disagree so as every other time we got in an argument.. I must be wrong.
I watched both guys a ton last season as I was looking at a few guys from each team.
In my estimation I believe Ringer has better downfield vision, Better hands, Better speed, and is more explosive.
I give Davis the slight edge in power as Ringers compact frame allows him to get under the tacklers for a pop.
I like Davis, but he doesn't wow me. I think Ringer is a better player.
Ugh get over yourself I wasn't even referring to you. Then again it's my fault for posting at all, I just remembered why I don't do it that often anymore. Thanks for that.
Cigaro
06-05-2008, 08:48 PM
I saw some talk about CJ Spiller in here, and from what I've seen, he's Reggie Bush 2.0. Not the USC Reggie Bush, the Saints Reggie Bush.
He had a good freshman year, being used often in planned situations such as screens and whatnot. In his second year, the coaches attempted to use him as a more conventional, regular-down type back, which so far hasn't worked. He dances around to much, often trying to break it outside, and if someone is there, he'll try and juke them out instead of putting his head down. He is horrible at running inside.
So yeah, if you use him like the Saints used Reggie in his rookie year, he's a nice weapon. If you use him like the Saints used Reggie his second year, he's definitely not what you're looking for. James Davis will most likely be a much better pro than Spiller because he can be an every down type back who can run tough.
Mr. Stiller
06-06-2008, 12:23 AM
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