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BlindSite
02-28-2007, 04:18 PM
Ok, I got a game in mind to make things a little more interesting this offseason.

This is different to most, "rate my team threads" I don't want anyone to put together their "all time" current or past team. What I want is this:

I make this initial post as a Carolina Panthers fan. The next fan rates the carolina panthers in their currents state and then at the end says

"my team: whatever" The next person then rates their team and gives their reasons why.

If you're a fan of the same team rate the team above you, then just put a different team down so we don't get two in a row. Please don't just say "ur teem sucks lawl ***" I want something interesting.



My team: Carolina Panthers

hugegmenfan
02-28-2007, 04:29 PM
Carolina Panthers= C+

i honestly do not understand how this team does not make the super bowl every year- they seem to have every position covered on paper but they underachieve


New York Giants: ___

McBain
02-28-2007, 04:36 PM
Carolina Panthers= C+

i honestly do not understand how this team does not make the super bowl every year- they seem to have every position covered on paper but they underachieve


New York Giants: ___

I'm sick of seeing Giants fans hyping up Brandon Jacobs hasn't done a thing. When i was reading the McGahee thread, several giants fans made it seem like if it happened Jacobs would start and take the majority of the carries which is ridiculous. I think barring the giants make qb changes this team isn't going anywhere unless eli manning makes vast improvments.

D+

BlindSite
02-28-2007, 04:36 PM
Carolina Panthers= C+

i honestly do not understand how this team does not make the super bowl every year- they seem to have every position covered on paper but they underachieve


New York Giants: ___

NYG = B-

I can't stand watching this team play. Some weeks they come out and look like they're superbowl bound and absolutely untouchable. Other times you wonder how they're considered an NFL franchise. They're headline players are characterized by inconsistency and the franchise always appears to be in need of coaches. Other than that, the future seems bright with eli, Moss, shockey and co.



Oh yeah, btw, not rebutting, I feel the same way about the Panthers, point to note, they've been second last in the league in the least 3 years as far as players missing starts go. Thats in all three years.

GermanSaint
02-28-2007, 04:38 PM
Carolina Panthers= C+

i honestly do not understand how this team does not make the super bowl every year- they seem to have every position covered on paper but they underachieve


New York Giants: ___

b-

give them oline depth and 1-2 playmaking DBs and they are solid contenders

BlindSite
02-28-2007, 04:38 PM
Nanoed

Washington D

Their owner thinks he knows more than he does. Gibbs needs to retire before he ruins his legacy. The defense was amazingly good, but lets its start talent walk and instead signed FA's to help score points. They traded away a good QB in favor of a rookie (though he has been good). Snyder is going to be the death of a once feared franchise and probably portis' career. IMO Portis and Shaun Taylor and two players I love to watch. Unfortunatley I usually watch them get beaten.

diabsoule
02-28-2007, 04:40 PM
New Orleans Saints: _____

BlindSite
02-28-2007, 04:43 PM
whoops double post, still having issues with the forum

BlindSite
02-28-2007, 04:44 PM
You have to rate the team above you, even if they've been done. Don't be lazy.

New Orleans B+

This team is still in rebuild mode and is still a few pieces of the puzzle away. At times the offense is dominant and the front seven is stifling. There are serious questions at linebacker and at cornerback. Without Joe Horn who's only got fumes left in the tank their receiving corp is rather thin. Their offensive line has been a pleasant surprise.

Peyton is a great young coach, but it'll be interesting to see how he goes after teams have a lot more film and tendencies to study. This team is on the up, but with such a tough divison and key positions lacking I doubt they can repeat their performance last year.

Team: Arizona Cardinals.

remix 6
02-28-2007, 04:55 PM
You have to rate the team above you, even if they've been done. Don't be lazy.

New Orleans B+

This team is still in rebuild mode and is still a few pieces of the puzzle away. At times the offense is dominant and the front seven is stifling. There are serious questions at linebacker and at cornerback. Without Joe Horn who's only got fumes left in the tank their receiving corp is rather thin. Their offensive line has been a pleasant surprise.

Peyton is a great young coach, but it'll be interesting to see how he goes after teams have a lot more film and tendencies to study. This team is on the up, but with such a tough divison and key positions lacking I doubt they can repeat their performance last year.

Team: Arizona Cardinals.

C

They have it on offense..got a good coach, great WRs, good RB and a great future QB..no OL however and defensivly..they have some real good players like Berry/Dansby/Hayes/Wilson..they just need to beef up the CB and DL a bit and i think they are legit contenders.

New England PATRIOTS

yourfavestoner
02-28-2007, 04:55 PM
New Orleans Saints: _____

B

I'm amazed at what Gary Gibbs was able to do on defense, especially since they really don't much talent beyond Will Smith and Charles Grant on that side of the ball.

The offense was amazing this season, and if they can add some depth and competition on the offensive line, they should be even better.

This is a team that needs to go into the offseason and acquire depth, because they need it at virtually every position besides wide receiver and running back. If they get bitten by the injury bug year, they could be in trouble, but if they stay healthy, I'd expect good things.

Jacksonville Jaguars:____

McBain
02-28-2007, 05:03 PM
Nanoed

Washington D

Their owner thinks he knows more than he does. Gibbs needs to retire before he ruins his legacy. The defense was amazingly good, but lets its start talent walk and instead signed FA's to help score points. They traded away a good QB in favor of a rookie (though he has been good). Snyder is going to be the death of a once feared franchise and probably portis' career. IMO Portis and Shaun Taylor and two players I love to watch. Unfortunatley I usually watch them get beaten.

that might be the worst evaluation ever written. 1st, love or hate danny but at least he wants to win and puts everything he can.

2. how can you ruin his legacy? Are ypu suddenly going to forget he won 3 superbowls because he had a few losing seasons?

3. Are you talking about our 31st ranked d?

4. Patrick Ramsey the third ranked QB on the Jets depth chart? He got beaten out by a rookie and a half armed chad pennington.

5. How is Daniel Snyder Killing Clinton Portis' career?

6. I guess you missed o5 where we went 10-6 including a 6 game winning streak.

sweetness34
02-28-2007, 05:59 PM
B

I'm amazed at what Gary Gibbs was able to do on defense, especially since they really don't much talent beyond Will Smith and Charles Grant on that side of the ball.

The offense was amazing this season, and if they can add some depth and competition on the offensive line, they should be even better.

This is a team that needs to go into the offseason and acquire depth, because they need it at virtually every position besides wide receiver and running back. If they get bitten by the injury bug year, they could be in trouble, but if they stay healthy, I'd expect good things.

Jacksonville Jaguars:____

B

I was expecting a playoff appearance, especially after your start to the season. I think having Leftwitch back will help this year, and Drew is a stud at RB. I like your WR's, when they catch the ball, but they need to be more consistent.

Defensively I had high hopes. You've got two studs in the middle but it seemed like you'd show up one game, and then disappear the next. You'd crush the Jets, then lose to the Texans.

Chicago Bears_____:

moc182
02-28-2007, 06:05 PM
B+: Despite the dominant defense, and trip to the Super Bowl, they still have a major question mark at the most important position on the field, and the Lovie situation looks like it could get ugly. They're in good hands with Angelo, and if Grossman can be more consistent they should be very good for a long time.

Chucky
02-28-2007, 07:08 PM
the tampa bay bucs

BlindSite
02-28-2007, 10:35 PM
that might be the worst evaluation ever written. 1st, love or hate danny but at least he wants to win and puts everything he can.

2. how can you ruin his legacy? Are ypu suddenly going to forget he won 3 superbowls because he had a few losing seasons?

3. Are you talking about our 31st ranked d?

4. Patrick Ramsey the third ranked QB on the Jets depth chart? He got beaten out by a rookie and a half armed chad pennington.

5. How is Daniel Snyder Killing Clinton Portis' career?

6. I guess you missed o5 where we went 10-6 including a 6 game winning streak.

1. So what? He's an asshole and maligns everyone around him. Mike Nolan one of the NFLs best DC's before he became the brilliant HC he is hated working with Snyder. In interviews the first thing Snyder does is talk about how awesome he is and how he got rich... He insists everyone, even his family who work for him call him "Mr. Snyder" he's an asshole, he doesn't know **** about the game of football and he's got a lot of money. That's daniel Snyder.

2.No one will forget his legacy but he'll forever be known as the guy who won three superbowls and then tried to recapture his glory days but failed... miserably.

3. I'm talking about the D that was ranked 2 in the NFL behind pittsburgh in 04.

4.Patrick Ramsey played very, very well down the stretch in 04 throwing to chris cooley and an injured Coles.

5. Because he is always insistent on passing the ball more, that's why he went out and got a new QB and that's why he got new WRs. He wants his game centred around passing. Doing so is going to kill Portis' career. He needs to be fed, early and often, not as a second tier player.

6. When was your last trip to a conference championship, or for that matter past the divisonal round of the playoffs?


the tampa bay bucs


A team that's in between. Everything hinges on Chris Simms and Cadillac williams. If those two fire, then there's no stopping the team, even with an aging defense. imo they've got a two year window. I don't know if they'll use it though. They need some help with playmakers at WR and some youth in the front seven and secondary.

Detroit Lions.

Tubby
02-28-2007, 11:16 PM
F-

Seahawks

KILLERSANTA
02-28-2007, 11:19 PM
F-

Seahawks

F- because there kicker sucks!!!!!!!!!!11oneone

themaninblack
02-28-2007, 11:36 PM
Seahawks=B+

With Alexander and Hasselback being healthy they are one of the top teams in the NFC. Their oline is nice even without hutchinson and they have some solid wide recievers in Branch and Jackson(if he stays there). Their D has alot of talent and they should do better this year, they could have one of the best LB corps in the NFL. If their D is at least solid they will make the playoffs.


My Team=Cincinnati Bengals

TitleTown088
02-28-2007, 11:38 PM
The Packers.

smittyjs
02-28-2007, 11:40 PM
that might be the worst evaluation ever written. 1st, love or hate danny but at least he wants to win and puts everything he can.

2. how can you ruin his legacy? Are ypu suddenly going to forget he won 3 superbowls because he had a few losing seasons?

3. Are you talking about our 31st ranked d?

4. Patrick Ramsey the third ranked QB on the Jets depth chart? He got beaten out by a rookie and a half armed chad pennington.

5. How is Daniel Snyder Killing Clinton Portis' career?

6. I guess you missed o5 where we went 10-6 including a 6 game winning streak.Your ruin everything, by A. letting your divsion rival comes out between you and the Giants during your first post in this thread and B. went out on someone when they went after your team.:rolleyes:

JoeMontainya
02-28-2007, 11:41 PM
Browns______

smittyjs
02-28-2007, 11:51 PM
Seahawks=B+

With Alexander and Hasselback being healthy they are one of the top teams in the NFC. Their oline is nice even without hutchinson and they have some solid wide recievers in Branch and Jackson(if he stays there). Their D has alot of talent and they should do better this year, they could have one of the best LB corps in the NFL. If their D is at least solid they will make the playoffs.


My Team=Cincinnati Bengals

B-
Very Talented Young QB, At this point in time, one great RB and another good 3rd down back. Talented offensive line, with some young players seeing time. Great WR core, with one trouble maker(Chris Henry), TE isn't a huge with in the Bengals offense. Defensive line is staying together one more season with Smith being the FT player, but i have heard they could be moving to 3-4 in a season or two. Has alot of potential at DT,should be fine this season on the defensive line. LB could be a need depending on what they do after the release of Brian Simmons and the David pollackcoming back from a pretty bad injury. They need to start perparing for another young CB in there secondary to help out Johnathan Joseph. Also they could add another Safety to help out Madieu Williams.

My Team: Tennessee Titans

HawkeyeFan
03-01-2007, 12:05 AM
Titans: C

They really suprised me this year, although I figured they'd suprise and win 6 games, they won 8. Bravo!


My team: St. Louis Rams

moc182
03-01-2007, 12:12 AM
Titans: C

They really suprised me this year, although I figured they'd suprise and win 6 games, they won 8. Bravo!


My team: St. Louis Rams

A

I love Scott Linehan and he's got them headed in the right direction. They have an absolute truck of a running back, a rock solid qb, and two hall of fame receivers. They've added a ton of talent to their defense over the last few years and will only improve within the system. They're my early pick to win the NFC next year.

moc182
03-01-2007, 12:13 AM
Since the Giants were done I'll throw the Jags out there. Alot of different opinions are possible here.

JoeMontainya
03-01-2007, 12:34 AM
jaguars = C-

i exspected alot more out of there team and i think they took a step back from last year. They need to get healthy and get more production out of a WR. Jones Drew IMO should have been rookie of the year. With there coach, they should rebound next year if Leftwhich embraces what might be his last chance.

McBain
03-01-2007, 01:13 AM
1. So what? He's an asshole and maligns everyone around him. Mike Nolan one of the NFLs best DC's before he became the brilliant HC he is hated working with Snyder. In interviews the first thing Snyder does is talk about how awesome he is and how he got rich... He insists everyone, even his family who work for him call him "Mr. Snyder" he's an asshole, he doesn't know **** about the game of football and he's got a lot of money. That's daniel Snyder.

2.No one will forget his legacy but he'll forever be known as the guy who won three superbowls and then tried to recapture his glory days but failed... miserably.

3. I'm talking about the D that was ranked 2 in the NFL behind pittsburgh in 04.

4.Patrick Ramsey played very, very well down the stretch in 04 throwing to chris cooley and an injured Coles.

5. Because he is always insistent on passing the ball more, that's why he went out and got a new QB and that's why he got new WRs. He wants his game centred around passing. Doing so is going to kill Portis' career. He needs to be fed, early and often, not as a second tier player.

6. When was your last trip to a conference championship, or for that matter past the divisonal round of the playoffs?





A team that's in between. Everything hinges on Chris Simms and Cadillac williams. If those two fire, then there's no stopping the team, even with an aging defense. imo they've got a two year window. I don't know if they'll use it though. They need some help with playmakers at WR and some youth in the front seven and secondary.

Detroit Lions.

Your ruin everything, by A. letting your divsion rival comes out between you and the Giants during your first post in this thread and B. went out on someone when they went after your team.:rolleyes:

1. Mike Nolan one of the best? Hardly... he dc'd with us for 1 year and it wasn't that great of a year.... and it's not like he's turned the 49ers d into a force to reckoned with... as i recall most of there improvement had to do with gore and not with a great d. As per Snyder being an asshole, that may well be.. i don't know.

2. Is that how you remember Bill Parcells too?

3. Yeah, the #2 d was good times.. but it was also two years ago. We've let one key player walk in Antonio Pierce and to a lesser extent Ryan Clark. Whoever else we've let go hasn't done anything since.. al la smoot, arrington etc. Our d was bad last year because we had the most injured secondary in the league.

4. Patrick Ramsey good? Are we talking about the same patrick ramsey that would lead us down the field and then throw a pick in the endzone. If he's so awesome why is 3rd on the Jets depth chart?

5. The same Portis who took more carries than he ever has in his career just in o5 or the one who took 9 less carries in o4? Saying we don't feed Portis is absolutely ridiculous.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302215

6. The 90s

To Smitty

A - I gave an honest evaluation of what i think of the giants.. you do realize they weren't exactly looking awesome at the end of the year.

B - What's wrong with that? I think he made this topic to spur debate.. that's what i'm doing. I didn't realize it was agaisnt the rules to defend your team.

C - I know you're just being a hater because i said Vince Young wouldn't be good next year in my mock.

The Titans -

There D overacheieved by miles down the stretch last year... alot of people began to attribute the Titans sucess to Young, which although he deserved some of the credit for the plays he made... he would have never had the opputunity to make those plays had it not been for how ridiculously well the titans d was playing. I feel the titans d is nothing more than average and next year won't be nearly as good as they were down the stretch, thus making vince young look not so good. Vince Young and the Titans will be an average team AT BEST.

C-

Dam8610
03-01-2007, 01:43 AM
since the above post doesn't have a team to review...

Indianapolis Colts: ________

BigDawg819
03-01-2007, 08:21 AM
since the above post doesn't have a team to review...

Indianapolis Colts: ________


Well when your the reigning champs what is there to complain about :D

And yes I'm a Raven fan and yes I'm rating the Colts.

Indianapolis Colts: A-

With Peyton, Marvin, Reggie, and the emergence of Dallas on offense whats to complain about. I think Addai really did a great job for them last year in tandem with Rhodes, ala Jamal Lewis in his rookie year with Priest Holmes when we won the Super Bowl. One of the best offensive lines in keeping their QB clean and not to shabby run blocking either. While Marvin and Reggie are great in the passing game and Dallas Clark had a great postseason, I'm not in love with the depth at WR in case God forbid Marvin or Reggie got hurt. Its nit picky but hey every team has some flaws. Plus is Rhodes coming back or will the bulk of the carries belong to Addai? The defense is a tale of two cities if I ever saw one. In the regular season everyone and their mother could run on them and then come postseason time they look like the 2000 Ravens out their stopping the run and causing turnovers. I guess that shows the importance of Bob Sanders and the need for better depth in that secondary but what else is new. Freeney is asking for a monster contract but I'm sure Bill Polian will address his situation and get him locked up. The defensive line could use some interior help with some young talent from the draft to free up Freeney and Mathis. The linebacking core looks to lose Cato June and that might not be a bad thing. Seems to be another area that the draft can fill for them. Plain and simple the Colts D just needs to stick to the fundamentals and make sure tackles and flock to the ball and they will be good this upcoming year. The special teams are decent enough, but maybe a receiver/returner in this draft could give this unit a spark or a corner that would fill the bill and help with the secondary depth. Hunter Smith and Adam Vinateri are some of the best in the business so if it ain't broke don't fix it.


That's a wrap for the Colts ranking, and note the minus is mainly a result of the poor run defense during the year. Hey just because your the Champs don't mean everything is gravy...



My team: Baltimore Ravens ____

OhioState
03-01-2007, 01:55 PM
Ravens: B
They are getting a little old on both sides of the ball. Lewis can't stay around forever. If their offense had even a little big play tendency they could be a top of the line contender.

My team: DA Bears

umphrey
03-01-2007, 01:59 PM
Bears: A
They have a lot of youth and defense and offense. I really like the direction they are going. Grossman will probably get more consistent with time. They have a good mix of young/old WRs. TE is lacking but decent. O line is very good IMO. RB is good right now but you'll probably get rid of Jones and start Benson which is a mistake IMO. Defense is solid all around. Filled with youth and talent. Coaching staff is awesome right now. You need a better O coordinator though IMO. You'll probably run into problems though when your young playmakers want big money, and have trouble keeping the team together.

The Pack

BlindSite
03-01-2007, 04:44 PM
Bears: A
They have a lot of youth and defense and offense. I really like the direction they are going. Grossman will probably get more consistent with time. They have a good mix of young/old WRs. TE is lacking but decent. O line is very good IMO. RB is good right now but you'll probably get rid of Jones and start Benson which is a mistake IMO. Defense is solid all around. Filled with youth and talent. Coaching staff is awesome right now. You need a better O coordinator though IMO. You'll probably run into problems though when your young playmakers want big money, and have trouble keeping the team together.

The Pack
IMO a team on the verge of both falling apart and getting somewhere. There needs to be a change of the gaurd. Favre, Green and Franks are out the door, Rogers, a RB and a new TE need to come in to Help out Jennings.

The defense has a solid if unspectacular core, but I don't know about the rest of the team. They've got a lot of talented players up and down the board but can't seem to put it all together and are marred by inconsistency.

Right now a B+ for performance with the players they've got. C for overall.

Cleveland Browns___________

Guys, lets actually comment on the team above us. Not just post our team's name.