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Rob S
07-10-2008, 01:56 PM
Ok, so NBA Fantasy Draft.....u know the deal. I am lookin for 8-10 reliable people, snake order, start ASAP, etc.......we can vote dynasty or current once we have participants.


ROUND 1

BrownsTown- LeBron James
Yo123- Kobe Bryant
Rob- Chris Paul
D- Kevin Garnett
Fenkiz- Dwight Howard
Scotty- Tim Duncan
Turtle- Deron Williams
Paul- Amare Stoudamire
Island Boy- Paul Pierce
WMD- Chris Bosh

ROUND 2

WMD- Yao
IslandBoy- Dirk Nowitzki
Paul- Joe Johnson
Turtle- Brandon Roy
Scotty- Josh Smith
Fenkiz- Dwayne Wade
D- Gilbert Arenas
Rob- Carlos Boozer
Yo1230- Carmello Anthony
BrownsTown- Al Jefferson

ROUND 3

BrownsTown- Steve Nash
Yo123- Chauncey Billups
Rob- Andre Igoudala
D- T-Mac
Fenkiz- Baron Davis
Scotty- Michael Redd
Turtle- Tyson Chandler
Paul- Chris Kaman
Island Boy- Marcus Camby
WMD- Caron Butler

ROUND 4

WMD- Allen Iverson
IslandBoy- Shawn Marion
Paul- Tony Parker
Turtle- Corey Maggette
Scotty- Vince Carter
Fenkiz- Elton Brand
D- Rasheed Wallace
Rob- Pau Gasol
Yo123- David West
BrownsTown- Rudy Cool

ROUND 5

BrownsTown- Emeka Okafor
Yo123- Manu Ginobili
Rob- Ray Allen
D- Jason Kidd
Fenkiz- Gerald Wallace
Scotty- Devin Harris
Turtle- Antawn Jamison
Paul- Hedo Turkoglu
Island Boy- Monta Ellis
WMD- Andre Miller

ROUND 6

WMD- Rashard Lewis
IslandBoy- Josh Howard
Paul- Danny Granger
Turtle- Kevin Durant
Scotty- Jason Richardson
Fenkiz- Kevin Martin
D- Tayshaun Prince
Rob- Rip Hamilton
Yo123- Ron Artest
BrownsTown- LaMarcus Aldridge

ROUND 7

BrownsTown- Peja Stojakovic
Yo123- Andrew Bynum
Rob - Richard Jefferson
D- Al Horford
Fenkiz- Samuel Dalembert
Scotty - Hakim Warrick
Turtle - Greg Oden
Paul - Mike Miller
Island Boy - Raymond Felton
WMD - Jose Calderon

ROUND 8

WMD - Jason Maxiel
IslandBoy - Shaquelle O'Neal
Paul - Andrew Bogut
Turtle - Jamal Crawford
Scotty - Sean Williams
Fenkiz - Luol Deng
D- Rajon Rondo
Rob- Jermaine O'Neal
Yo123- Lamar Odom
BrownsTown- Zydrunas Ilgauskas

ROUND 9

BrownsTown- Michael Beasley
Yo123- Leandro Barbosa
Rob- Mo Williams
D- Andris Biedrins
Fenkiz- Bruce Bowen
Scotty - Mike Bibby
Turtle- Davis Lee
Paul- Chris Wilcox
Island Boy
WMD

ROUND 10

WMD
IslandBoy
Paul
Turtle
Scotty
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

WMD
07-10-2008, 04:10 PM
I'll join.

Paul
07-10-2008, 04:17 PM
I'm in as well.

D-Unit
07-10-2008, 04:19 PM
Is this the kind of draft where at the end everyone says, "I win!"?

Rob S
07-10-2008, 05:07 PM
Is this the kind of draft where at the end everyone says, "I win!"?

what kind of draft doesnt end like that haha....

yo123
07-10-2008, 05:36 PM
Count me in.

islandboy843
07-10-2008, 05:44 PM
I'm in and I win.

yo123
07-10-2008, 05:50 PM
Is this the kind of draft where at the end everyone says, "I win!"?


We should definetly have some type of voting to see who the winner is.

fenikz
07-10-2008, 05:52 PM
i will do this

D-Unit
07-10-2008, 06:22 PM
Count me in too.

scottyboy
07-10-2008, 06:23 PM
I can haz in please?

yo123
07-10-2008, 06:24 PM
I can haz in please?



I'm taking Douby with my first pick.

MetSox17
07-10-2008, 06:31 PM
Sacramento Kings here!

scottyboy
07-10-2008, 06:31 PM
I'm taking Douby with my first pick.

Only if you have a higher first pick then me! haha!

yo123
07-10-2008, 06:32 PM
Timberwolves plz.

islandboy843
07-10-2008, 06:34 PM
Denver Nuggets

yo123
07-10-2008, 06:35 PM
When is this going to start? Because I have basketball practice in a half hour. I could send someone a list if we are going to start in the next 2 hours.

scottyboy
07-10-2008, 06:36 PM
If I'm in, I'll take the Nets please!

fenikz
07-10-2008, 07:11 PM
Oklahoma Thundercats!


or Phoenix Suns

Turtlepower
07-10-2008, 07:14 PM
If you need an extra hand, I'll be that hand.

Rob S
07-10-2008, 07:15 PM
alright, with turtlepower we have 10.......i will random order it up!

Rob S
07-10-2008, 07:23 PM
Pick # 1: MetSox

Pick # 2: Yo123

Pick # 3: Rob

Pick # 4: D

Pick # 5: Fenkiz

Pick # 6: Scotty

Pick # 7: Turtle

Pick # 8: Paul

Pick # 9: Islandboy

Pick # 10: WMD

did a random order on fantasy sports factory

Rob S
07-10-2008, 07:28 PM
lets go 10 rounds. Dynasty or current? I would like current myself, so if nobody is opposed...

Paul
07-10-2008, 07:29 PM
I'm cool with Current.

MetSox17
07-10-2008, 07:30 PM
I don't get it, Dynasty or Current??

Paul
07-10-2008, 07:32 PM
Best team now vs. the best team over the next 5-7 years.

Rob S
07-10-2008, 07:32 PM
I don't get it, Dynasty or Current??

Current is like right now....one season. Dynasty is over like 3 or 5 years.

MetSox17
07-10-2008, 07:32 PM
Oh okay, well in that case, i'd prefer Dynasty.

fenikz
07-10-2008, 07:35 PM
im fine with either

maybe somewhere in the middle like over 3/4 years

Rob S
07-10-2008, 07:37 PM
i like current because it is more exact in voting. U take derrick Rose here in dynasty, people who love him in voting will count him as ur team having a top class PG, they dont like him, u blew a high pick......which is an inexact science imo

MetSox17
07-10-2008, 07:39 PM
Well either way, it's not changing my pick.

I pickz teh LeBronz Jamez

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t245/k2cndn5/lj23.jpg

yo123
07-10-2008, 08:41 PM
Ok so is it dynasty or current...because it will change my pick.

fenikz
07-10-2008, 09:00 PM
well it's rob's draft and he wants current so we might as well do that

yo123
07-10-2008, 09:03 PM
Ok then my pick is Kobe Bryant



http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/ian_thomsen/11/29/kobe.longevity/p1.kobe.jpg

D-Unit
07-10-2008, 09:15 PM
Rob, I dare you to take Dwight. Double dare you.

islandboy843
07-10-2008, 09:21 PM
Rob, I dare you to take Dwight. Double dare you.


http://www.theoldcomputer.com/Libarary%27s/Pictures/NESGameCovers/Double%20Dare.jpg


I loved this show.

Rob S
07-10-2008, 09:28 PM
Why would I take Howard when I can get the best player at the most important position in basketball.

CP3 Baby!- Dwight aint in his league.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_D36P1iWeXNs/SB_fs04xPlI/AAAAAAAAA7M/deyTDwnFTIo/s400/chris+paul2.jpg

WMD
07-10-2008, 09:56 PM
Dammit, I always get the last pick in every draft, ever.

D-Unit
07-10-2008, 10:12 PM
I thought I could fool you Rob! LOL.

Sorry Dwight, if this was a dynasty, I'd pick you. But your poor free throw shooting and undeveloped post moves are not there yet.

KG Baby! No way Boston wins without him.

Plus, he's got a WILF.

http://clutch3.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/kg_and_wife_brandi.jpg

http://www.whudat.com/news/images/boston-celtics-2008-nba-champions-big.jpg

islandboy843
07-10-2008, 10:12 PM
Woooooooooooo im on top of WMD.

Rob S
07-10-2008, 10:17 PM
I thought I could fool you Rob! LOL.

Sorry Dwight, if this was a dynasty, I'd pick you. But your poor free throw shooting and undeveloped post moves are not there yet.

KG Baby! No way Boston wins without him.

Plus, he's got a WILF.

http://clutch3.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/kg_and_wife_brandi.jpg

http://www.whudat.com/news/images/boston-celtics-2008-nba-champions-big.jpg

wow. very sexy wife....really exotic looking, not what i would have expected. I knew u werent going to take howard haha.....

fenikz
07-10-2008, 10:20 PM
I select Dwight Howard C

http://www.nbageek.com/images/dwight-howard.jpg

Paul
07-10-2008, 10:21 PM
So what to do with Metsox's Pick?

Rob S
07-10-2008, 10:23 PM
So what to do with Metsox's Pick?

huh? he took Lebron

D-Unit
07-10-2008, 10:25 PM
I select Dwight Howard C

http://www.nbageek.com/images/dwight-howard.jpg
When a Suns fan takes Howard over Stoudemire... That's when you know what's up baby!

Great pick!

Rob S
07-10-2008, 10:33 PM
When a Suns fan takes Howard over Stoudemire... That's when you know what's up baby!

Great pick!

If Amare had the word defense in his vocabulary I would disagree with u....but it is very close imo.

Rob S
07-10-2008, 10:38 PM
alright....i am drained from work so i am going to turn in. I dont think it will get to me so I am not gonna leave a list.

fenikz
07-10-2008, 10:42 PM
When a Suns fan takes Howard over Stoudemire... That's when you know what's up baby!

Great pick!



The only reason I picked Howard over Amare is because the nfldc seem to think that Amare is worthless, even though he finished 6th in MVP voting, although I did grab the guy who finished 5th

Also less of an injury risk

yo123
07-10-2008, 10:45 PM
The only reason I picked Howard over Amare is because the nfldc seem to think that Amare is worthless, even though he finished 6th in MVP voting, although I did grab the guy who finished 5th

Also less of an injury risk



Amare isn't worthless. He's close to worthless on D, but overall he's still a great player.

Paul
07-10-2008, 10:48 PM
huh? he took Lebron

Word is that he is banned. Not sure for how long though.

fenikz
07-10-2008, 10:52 PM
Word is that he is banned. Not sure for how long though.

yep he is banned

D-Unit
07-10-2008, 10:52 PM
yep he is banned
I say start over. Repick from the top.

fenikz
07-10-2008, 10:53 PM
lol or just get someone who wants lebron

yo123
07-10-2008, 10:57 PM
What did Metsox do? Oh and I'm cool with whatever everyone decides.

D-Unit
07-10-2008, 11:04 PM
lol or just get someone who wants lebron
I'll take him. That settles that. ;)

fenikz
07-10-2008, 11:16 PM
ok, BT says he will take over for metsox

BrownsTown
07-10-2008, 11:16 PM
I'll take over for Metsox if that's ok with everyone.

WMD
07-10-2008, 11:16 PM
I'll take him. That settles that. ;)

I'll take LeBron.. You can have Trent Plaisted.

islandboy843
07-10-2008, 11:18 PM
Can I get Shawn Bradley?

D-Unit
07-10-2008, 11:21 PM
I'll take LeBron.. You can have Trent Plaisted.
How about I Plaister your face? :rolleyes:

BrownsTown
07-10-2008, 11:21 PM
As long as I get Speedy Claxton, I don't care.

fenikz
07-10-2008, 11:23 PM
dibs on FROPEZ

WMD
07-10-2008, 11:30 PM
dibs on FROPEZ

I should trademark that.

fenikz
07-10-2008, 11:32 PM
lol, it was a brilliant moment

1st i say Fro Lopez then you come back with Fropez

truly one of the greatest moments in the history of western civilization

http://www.littledebbie.com/images/products/nutty1.gif

Rob S
07-11-2008, 10:52 AM
BT is fine by me........now lets just get this moving

Rob S
07-11-2008, 10:54 AM
If Scotty doesnt pick by 3 EST I am giving him Douby haha

yo123
07-11-2008, 01:32 PM
Scotty you are dissapointing me right now.

BrownsTown
07-11-2008, 01:39 PM
Worst punishment ever Rob. He'll love Douby (he'd probably pick him here anyway.)

D-Unit
07-11-2008, 01:39 PM
Is this dead already?

BrownsTown
07-11-2008, 01:43 PM
Is this dead already?

Scotty is holding it up. I blame Rutgers.

fenikz
07-11-2008, 01:44 PM
Is this dead already?

calm down negative nancy

scottyboy
07-11-2008, 03:08 PM
I was at teh beach! hold up, pick up in like 2 secondzzzzzz

scottyboy
07-11-2008, 03:10 PM
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/i/magazine/new/tim_duncan_scowl.jpg

Tim Duncan, the Big Fundamental. Great rebounder, defender, solid post scorer, leader and winner. All around great player, not flashy, but that's fine.

Turtlepower
07-11-2008, 04:27 PM
I select:

Deron Williams, PG

http://www.jazzbots.com/web/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/508445761_7ff6046925.jpg

Paul
07-11-2008, 04:34 PM
I Select:

Amare Stoudemire
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGO204~Amare-Stoudemire-04-05-Action-Posters.jpg

fenikz
07-11-2008, 04:36 PM
I Select:

Amare Stoudemire
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAGO204%7EAmare-Stoudemire-04-05-Action-Posters.jpg



AMARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

islandboy843
07-11-2008, 05:02 PM
Paul Pierce


http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/ian_thomsen/03/09/celtics/t1_paul.pierce.jpg

Rob S
07-11-2008, 11:11 PM
Dove e WMD?

D-Unit
07-11-2008, 11:16 PM
Dove e WMD?
WMD is a fantasy draft killer.

islandboy843
07-11-2008, 11:19 PM
Damnit.....I though i would have been late

WMD
07-12-2008, 05:00 AM
Apologies to you young sirs.. Let's see how this works out.. I select::

Chris Bosh, PF
http://images.quickblogcast.com/81063-70964/nba_g_bosh.jpg

and

Yao Ming, C
http://www.visithoustontexas.org/images/yao-ming-houston-rockets.jpg

islandboy843
07-12-2008, 08:16 AM
http://www.all-nba-all-basketball.com/images/DIRK_NOWITZKI1.jpg


and yes i will regret this.

Paul
07-12-2008, 11:09 AM
I select Joe Johnson

http://sports.tom.com/uimg/2006/2/28/lanqiu/JoeJohnson0228_57758.jpg

Turtlepower
07-12-2008, 12:37 PM
Brandon Roy, SG

http://deseretnews.com/photos/midres/4895556.jpg

scottyboy
07-12-2008, 02:01 PM
Josh Smith, PF

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/kelly_dwyer/02/21/post.all.star2/t1_josh.smith2.jpg

fenikz
07-12-2008, 04:20 PM
Dwayne Wade
http://www.nbaobsessed.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/dwyane-wade-dunking.jpg
http://www.thesportstruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/dwayne-wade.jpg

Rob S
07-12-2008, 04:45 PM
Dwayne Wade
http://www.nbaobsessed.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/dwyane-wade-dunking.jpg
http://www.thesportstruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/dwayne-wade.jpg

****, nice selection man. Absolute steal here imo

fenikz
07-12-2008, 04:53 PM
****, nice selection man. Absolute steal here imo

another guy like amare that most people on nfldc don't like for some reason

Turtlepower
07-12-2008, 04:56 PM
another guy like amare that most people on nfldc don't like for some reason

I'm just not sure if he will ever return to his NBA finals form after injuries.

fenikz
07-12-2008, 05:06 PM
I'm just not sure if he will ever return to his NBA finals form after injuries.

even last year he averaged 24.6 ppg, 6.9 apg, & 4.2 rpg

islandboy843
07-12-2008, 05:34 PM
Still injuries are a concern....Main reason not picking him.

D-Unit
07-12-2008, 06:02 PM
Wow... Finally, I get to make a pick..

Guard Gilbert Arenas

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0427/nba_a_james-arenas_580.jpg

fenikz
07-12-2008, 06:58 PM
we should start a clock sometime

yo123
07-12-2008, 07:39 PM
Yeah we should, starting in the 3rd round maybe?

WMD
07-13-2008, 12:34 AM
It's Rob's pick..

Rob S
07-13-2008, 09:33 AM
omg i had the most insane night ever last night.......sorry for the dealy

Anyways.....I will go ahead and take Carlos Boozer....kind of a tough spot but boozer is one of my favorites.

yo123
07-13-2008, 11:49 AM
I select Carmelo Anthony

http://inplacenews.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/carmelo-anthony-player-exclusive-shoes-14.jpg

Rob S
07-13-2008, 01:07 PM
maybe people can look into co-gm's. If anyone is reading this thread and want to co, post bc some people (possibly including myself) will likely want 1.

D-Unit
07-13-2008, 01:21 PM
people can send lists in as well.

BT is up to pick.

WMD
07-13-2008, 01:58 PM
Yeah, feel free to send me lists. I think I have the next couple days off of work and it's not like I have any kind of big social life.

BrownsTown
07-13-2008, 02:16 PM
I'll take Al Jefferson, PF/C

Could he be the 2nd scorer LeBron needs? Very possibly. Already he's a 20/10 kinda guy. I think his defense will develop, but a defensive counterpart in the front court will be drafted later.

http://collinorcutt.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/al_jefferson.jpg

and Steve Nash, PG

I thought hard about this but in the end, even if he won't be handling the ball all the time, Steve Nash is probably the best 3 pt shooter in the NBA and putting him next to LeBron would be deadly. Also gives that "other guy" who can create his shot besides LeBron.

http://www.phoenixsunsjersey.com/images/stevenashside.jpg

Rob S
07-13-2008, 06:51 PM
getting brutal.....

yo123
07-13-2008, 07:27 PM
My fault, I had a basketball tourney all day today.

Tough choice between a couple of players, but I'll go with Chauncey Billups.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAHB101_8x10-2006PlayoffAction~Chauncey-Billups-Posters.jpg

PG- Chauncey Billups
SG- Kobe Bryant
SF- Carmelo Anthony
PF-
C-

Rob S
07-13-2008, 07:52 PM
Andre Iguodala- great all around game and a lock down defender.

D-Unit
07-13-2008, 08:15 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/01/mcgrady.jpg

G/F Tracy McGrady


G Gilbert Arenas
F Tracy McGrady
F Kevin Garnett

This is tooo easy.

Rob S
07-13-2008, 08:18 PM
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/resources/2007/01/mcgrady.jpg

G/F Tracy McGrady


G Gilbert Arenas
F Tracy McGrady
F Kevin Garnett

This is tooo easy.

I was thinking of him, but I prefer not having lazy players that suck on D....to each his own tho :)

D-Unit
07-13-2008, 08:24 PM
I was thinking of him, but I prefer not having lazy players that suck on D....to each his own tho :)
Say what you want, but the last thing he is is lazy. He's been getting that label his whole career, but it's because he makes the game look easy and he's got sleepy eyes. Look back on what level his game has risen to... there are not many that are in his league. A lot of you guys are missing true "go to" guys. ...Iggy is the perfect example. He's a complimentary player that failed to show up in the playoffs when his team needed him most. T-Mac is an assasin with a killer instinct. Unfortunately, I don't think he'll ever win a championship in Houston, but that doesn't make him any worse of a player.

Rob S
07-13-2008, 08:28 PM
Say what you want, but the last thing he is is lazy. He's been getting that label his whole career, but it's because he makes the game look easy and he's got sleepy eyes. Look back on what level his game has risen to... there are not many that are in his league. A lot of you guys are missing true "go to" guys. ...Iggy is the perfect example. He's a complimentary player that failed to show up in the playoffs when his team needed him most. T-Mac is an assasin with a killer instinct. Unfortunately, I don't think he'll ever win a championship in Houston, but that doesn't make him any worse of a player.

I wouldnt say lazy in general......on D absolutely...and if u watch him defend u can see it. Offensively he does bust his ass, I agree there. And a team cant have too many go to guys....that never works. Gilbert and T-Mac wouldnt ever work imo, but to each his own. U have more talent than my team, but I think chemistry is more important in bball than any sport, and that is one thing i could see your team lacking. Look at the Wizards, they play better minus gilbert...he is not a great team guy. Star, yes, talented- more so than almost anyone, however something is missing.

WMD
07-13-2008, 08:38 PM
I believe it's Fenikz' pick.

D-Unit
07-13-2008, 08:39 PM
I wouldnt say lazy in general......on D absolutely...and if u watch him defend u can see it. Offensively he does bust his ass, I agree there. And a team cant have too many go to guys....that never works. Gilbert and T-Mac wouldnt ever work imo, but to each his own. U have more talent than my team, but I think chemistry is more important in bball than any sport, and that is one thing i could see your team lacking. Look at the Wizards, they play better minus gilbert...he is not a great team guy. Star, yes, talented- more so than almost anyone, however something is missing.
I beg to differ. Arenas averages less than 20 ppg and more than 5 apg. Both Butler and Jamison avg more ppg on their careers than Agent 0. If you're trying to tell me he's a ball hog and bad chemistry guy then the facts just don't add up in your favor. He and Jamison just worked it out that they will resign with the team together. If there was any bad chemistry, what they didn't wouldn't have made any sense. Stop making up things please.

Rob S
07-13-2008, 08:45 PM
I beg to differ. Arenas averages less than 20 ppg and more than 5 apg. Both Butler and Jamison avg more ppg on their careers than Agent 0. If you're trying to tell me he's a ball hog and bad chemistry guy then the facts just don't add up in your favor. He and Jamison just worked it out that they will resign with the team together. If there was any bad chemistry, what they didn't wouldn't have made any sense. Stop making up things please.

dude....stats dont tell the story. That team wins games at a higher percent when arenas is out...thats not made up....think back to his injury. If its not a higher percent, it is pretty much a wash and if he is truly a go to guy, losing him should at least have a negative impact. AI has good stats too, racks up the assists....doesnt mean he's a great team guy. Im not making anything up.

Rob S
07-13-2008, 08:49 PM
and Gilbert's D leaves a lot to be desired too.

D-Unit
07-13-2008, 09:18 PM
dude....stats dont tell the story. That team wins games at a higher percent when arenas is out...thats not made up....think back to his injury. If its not a higher percent, it is pretty much a wash and if he is truly a go to guy, losing him should at least have a negative impact. AI has good stats too, racks up the assists....doesnt mean he's a great team guy. Im not making anything up.
Dude, they didn't even make the playoffs this year and it really wasn't close. They would've had a much better chance with him. And on his defense... You're kidding me right? He more than holds his own. Not like he's a liability out there. Washington just gave him 111 million reasons why they want him. That's good enough for me. ;)

This draft is far from over, a lot fo you have great teams so far too. But complimentary players can be had later and some of you reached for yours.

fenikz
07-14-2008, 01:52 AM
Baron Davis PG

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/623/v04239agy3.jpg

WMD
07-14-2008, 01:57 AM
Damn you.. bastard..

scottyboy
07-14-2008, 07:21 AM
Michael Redd

http://www.emptythebench.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/redd4.jpg

Turtlepower
07-14-2008, 08:09 AM
Tyson Chandler, C

http://www.wwltv.com/sports/stories/L_IMAGE.1175910ab03.93.88.fa.d0.5b11a840.jpg

PG: Darren Williams
SG: Brandon Roy
SF:
PF:
C: Brandon Roy

Paul
07-14-2008, 09:56 AM
I select Chris Kaman

http://sports.tom.com/uimg/2006/5/3/wangtao/Chris_Kaman_Reggie_Evans_2006050301_103439.jpg

PG:
SG: Joe Johnson
SF:
PF: Amare Stoudemire
C: Chris Kaman

islandboy843
07-14-2008, 10:37 AM
Marcus Camby C

http://str8hoops.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/marcus-camby.jpg

islandboy843
07-14-2008, 10:38 AM
Oh yeah probably will win just cause of names not how they actually play.


Because normal people vote

Rob S
07-14-2008, 10:44 AM
Oh yeah probably will win just cause of names not how they actually play.


Because normal people vote

nice pick with camby. Love his game.....yet another one the Knicks let get away

WMD
07-14-2008, 11:44 AM
Ladies, Gentlemen, and D-Unit, I select..


Caron Butler, SF
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/010p2vu6zSgNk/340x.jpg

and

Allen Iverson, PG/SG
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x213/Sig410/Allen_Iverson.jpg

Rob S
07-14-2008, 11:52 AM
Ladies, Gentlemen, and D-Unit, I select..


Caron Butler, SF
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/010p2vu6zSgNk/340x.jpg

and

Allen Iverson, PG/SG
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x213/Sig410/Allen_Iverson.jpg


love the butler pick and AI will actually fit in decently with the guys u currently have. I like ur team a lot actually.

islandboy843
07-14-2008, 12:53 PM
Shawn Marion




http://www.raisport.rai.it/RaiSport/pub/static/88400/20051206NBAPhoenixSunsShawnMarion.jpg

Paul
07-14-2008, 01:00 PM
Tony Parker

http://www.bballone.com/tonyp/spurs/images/spurs36_resize.jpg

Turtlepower
07-14-2008, 01:08 PM
Corey Maggette

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Corey-Maggette-Photograph-C12961267.jpeg

scottyboy
07-14-2008, 01:30 PM
Vinsanity, SF
PG:
SG: Redd
SF: VC
PF: Josh Smith
C: Tim Duncan
http://jugones.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/carter_vince.jpg

fenikz
07-14-2008, 01:39 PM
Elton Brand PF
http://www.beckersbakeryanddeli.com/images/Cakes/Basketball%20Elton%20Brand.jpg

PG Baron Davis
SG Dwayne Wade
SF
PF Elton Brand
C Dwight Howard

islandboy843
07-14-2008, 01:42 PM
Elton Brand PF
http://www.beckersbakeryanddeli.com/images/Cakes/Basketball%20Elton%20Brand.jpg

PG Baron Davis
SG Dwayne Wade
SF
PF Elton Brand
C Dwight Howard


Nice pick...steal

D-Unit
07-14-2008, 02:33 PM
FC Rasheed Wallace

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/writers/marty_burns/03/19/mailbag/p1_wallace_all.jpg

Rob S
07-14-2008, 02:44 PM
Not in love with his fairly soft game, but I cant pass on Pau Gasol at this point. I have a banger in Boozer so that will offset Pau's weakness down low.

PG: Chris Paul
SG
SF: Andre Igoudala
PF: Carlos Boozer
C: Pau Gasol

yo123
07-14-2008, 04:56 PM
pick up in a second

yo123
07-14-2008, 04:58 PM
I'll take PF David West

http://www.espn.go.com/media/nba/2006/0213/photo/g_west_268.jpg


PG- Chauncey Billups
SG- Kobe Bryant
SF- Carmelo Anthony
PF- David West
C-

fenikz
07-14-2008, 05:19 PM
shall we start a clock yet?

yo123
07-14-2008, 05:20 PM
I don't know, we would have to make sure everyone knows about it before we start it I think.

Turtlepower
07-14-2008, 05:22 PM
I say let's start a 2-hour clock now. People should at least be aware they are in a draft and send BBs.

Rob S
07-14-2008, 05:28 PM
this is getting annoying.....but we should wait until the end of the round.

D-Unit
07-14-2008, 06:11 PM
A 2 hour clock is decent.

Turtlepower
07-14-2008, 06:11 PM
A 2 hour clock is decent.

I'm a one hour clock kind of person, but most people disagree with me there...

Rob S
07-14-2008, 06:14 PM
after this round a clock will go into effect.......we can get a text thing going if people want to give me their cell, I know D and I did this during the fantasy draft for CCB's league

Rob S
07-14-2008, 06:16 PM
btw....i will be at my buddy's house tonight so if somebody wants to text me if it gets to me that would be fine. U still have my number D?

D-Unit
07-14-2008, 06:19 PM
btw....i will be at my buddy's house tonight so if somebody wants to text me if it gets to me that would be fine. U still have my number D?
Nah, I don't have it. I have a new plan now too, so I don't want to send any text msgs.

Send me a BB if you want.

djp
07-14-2008, 09:15 PM
Just end the draft... D has it won. MetSox is actually pretty close though. So keep going. haha.

BrownsTown
07-15-2008, 11:51 AM
I select Rudy Cool, SG

http://vegassummerleague.nba.com/pictures/rudy.jpg

A great scoring option, and more importantly an outstanding perimeter defender. I take him over a few other SGs here because I think out of the rest, he can play defense better.


and Emeka Okafor, PF/C

http://www.nba.com/media/act_emeka_okafor.jpg

A reach for him? Maybe, but with the 4 other starters entirely capable of putting up 30 every given night, I don't need scoring as much as I need a lockdown post defender to pair with Jefferson. And that's what Okafor gives me.

D-Unit
07-15-2008, 12:27 PM
Just want to remind folks that the 2 hour time limit is now in effect from here on out.

yo123
07-15-2008, 01:01 PM
I select Manu Ginobili


http://www.interbasket.net/players/ginobili.jpg

Rob S
07-15-2008, 01:47 PM
Ray Allen. Great shooter+Chris Paul=death for opponents

D-Unit
07-15-2008, 01:54 PM
Reporter: So, Jason... How does it feel to be on a team surrounded by Gilbert Arenas, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Garnett and Rasheed Wallace?

http://thenperiod.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/alg_kidd-speaks.jpg

Jason Kidd: Ummm... yeah... we've pretty much locked this up.

fenikz
07-15-2008, 02:23 PM
SF Gerald Wallace
http://sports.gearlive.com/blogimages/geraldwallacepseudostud.jpg

PG Baron Davis
SG Dwayne Wade
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Elton Brand
C Dwight Howard

championship...lock it up

WMD
07-15-2008, 03:50 PM
Is this the kind of draft where at the end everyone says, "I win!"?

Reporter: So, Jason... How does it feel to be on a team surrounded by Gilbert Arenas, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Garnett and Rasheed Wallace?

http://thenperiod.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/alg_kidd-speaks.jpg

Jason Kidd: Ummm... yeah... we've pretty much locked this up.

We didn't even have to wait until the end for someone to say they won.

BrownsTown
07-15-2008, 04:13 PM
We didn't even have to wait until the end for someone to say they won.

Hahaha...nice. Nobody's won it yet. I don't really like the look of Gilbert playing SG to be honest. I like the look of my team (obviously), but man fenikz really does have a great one...Wade and Howard with those complimentary pieces around them would be beastly.

Turtlepower
07-15-2008, 04:13 PM
Yeah, if I was to make someone a front-runner, it would be fenikz.

D-Unit
07-15-2008, 04:14 PM
We didn't even have to wait until the end for someone to say they won.
Hey, that's why I joined! :)

But seriously... the pace of this thing is sickening.

WMD
07-15-2008, 04:18 PM
I think we'll be skipping Scottyboy in about 5 minutes..

scottyboy
07-15-2008, 04:33 PM
I'm here, I'm here, gimme a minute

scottyboy
07-15-2008, 04:37 PM
http://www.nba.com/media/act_devin_harris.jpg

I know D hate him, but from what I saw from him, he's got tons of potential and talent right now. Quick kid, good shot and very good defense. Fits in nicely to run with VC and Smith running the floor with him, Duncan the big to grab boards, and Redd the spot shoota

Turtlepower
07-15-2008, 04:38 PM
Antawn Jamison

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/bk_AAHT109_8x10~Antawn-Jamison-Posters.jpg

PG - Daron Williams
SG - Brandon Roy
SF - Corey Maggette
PF - Antawn Jamison
C - Tyson Chandler

WMD
07-15-2008, 04:43 PM
ROUND 1

BrownsTown- LeBron James
Yo123- Kobe Bryant
Rob- Chris Paul
D- Kevin Garnett
Fenkiz- Dwight Howard
Scotty- Tim Duncan
Turtle- Deron Williams
Paul- Amare Stoudamire
Island Boy- Paul Pierce
WMD- Chris Bosh

ROUND 2

WMD- Yao
IslandBoy- Dirk Nowitzki
Paul- Joe Johnson
Turtle- Brandon Roy
Scotty- Josh Smith
Fenkiz- Dwayne Wade
D- Gilbert Arenas
Rob- Carlos Boozer
Yo1230- Carmello Anthony
BrownsTown- Al Jefferson

ROUND 3

BrownsTown- Steve Nash
Yo123- Chauncey Billups
Rob- Andre Igoudala
D- T-Mac
Fenkiz- Baron Davis
Scotty- Michael Redd
Turtle- Tyson Chandler
Paul- Chris Kaman
Island Boy- Marcus Camby
WMD- Caron Butler

ROUND 4

WMD- Allen Iverson
IslandBoy- Shawn Marion
Paul- Tony Parker
Turtle- Corey Maggette
Scotty- Vince Carter
Fenkiz- Elton Brand
D- Rasheed Wallace
Rob- Pau Gasol
Yo123- David West
BrownsTown- Rudy Cool

ROUND 5

BrownsTown- Emeka Okafor
Yo123- Manu Ginobili
Rob- Ray Allen
D- Jason Kidd
Fenkiz- Gerald Wallace
Scotty- Devin Harris
Turtle- Antawn Jamison
Paul- Hedo Turkoglu
Island Boy- Monta Ellis
WMD- Andre Miller

ROUND 6

WMD- Rashard Lewis
IslandBoy- Josh Howard
Paul- Danny Granger
Turtle- ****SKIPPED****
Scotty- Jason Richardson
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

ROUND 7

BrownsTown
Yo123
Rob
D
Fenkiz
Scotty
Turtle
Paul
Island Boy
WMD

ROUND 8

WMD
IslandBoy
Paul
Turtle
Scotty
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

ROUND 9

BrownsTown
Yo123
Rob
D
Fenkiz
Scotty
Turtle
Paul
Island Boy
WMD

ROUND 10

WMD
IslandBoy
Paul
Turtle
Scotty
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

Paul
07-15-2008, 04:44 PM
SF, Hedo Turkoglu

http://www.radyospor.com/pic_lib/hedo_2006.jpg

PG: Tony Parker
SG: Joe Johnson
SF: Hedo Turkoglu
PF: Amare Stoudemire
C: Chris Kaman

scottyboy
07-15-2008, 04:45 PM
You guys are spelling Kidd's first name wrong. It's "Ason" cuz he's got no "J"! HAH!

but I wanted him, stupid D-Unit...:(

islandboy843
07-15-2008, 05:51 PM
monta ellis pg

yo123
07-15-2008, 05:52 PM
monta ellis pg



Good pick, although I think he's a better fit at SG. It was between him and Manu for me with my last pick.

WMD
07-15-2008, 07:01 PM
I select..


Andre Miller, PG
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2241/340xam2.jpg

and

Rashard Lewis, SF
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/1938/340xmm3.jpg

D-Unit
07-15-2008, 07:04 PM
Rashaaaaaaaard! Finally a good pick from you. :D

Rob S
07-15-2008, 07:49 PM
ROUND 1

BrownsTown- LeBron James
Yo123- Kobe Bryant
Rob- Chris Paul
D- Kevin Garnett
Fenkiz- Dwight Howard
Scotty- Tim Duncan
Turtle- Deron Williams
Paul- Amare Stoudamire
Island Boy- Paul Pierce
WMD- Chris Bosh

ROUND 2

WMD- Yao
IslandBoy- Dirk Nowitzki
Paul- Joe Johnson
Turtle- Brandon Roy
Scotty- Josh Smith
Fenkiz- Dwayne Wade
D- Gilbert Arenas
Rob- Carlos Boozer
Yo1230- Carmello Anthony
BrownsTown- Al Jefferson

ROUND 3

BrownsTown- Steve Nash
Yo123- Chauncey Billups
Rob- Andre Igoudala
D- T-Mac
Fenkiz- Baron Davis
Scotty- Michael Redd
Turtle- Tyson Chandler
Paul- Chris Kaman
Island Boy- Marcus Camby
WMD- Caron Butler

ROUND 4

WMD- Allen Iverson
IslandBoy- Shawn Marion
Paul- Tony Parker
Turtle- Corey Maggette
Scotty- Vince Carter
Fenkiz- Elton Brand
D- Rasheed Wallace
Rob- Pau Gasol
Yo123- David West
BrownsTown- Rudy Cool

ROUND 5

BrownsTown- Emeka Okafor
Yo123- Manu Ginobili
Rob- Ray Allen
D- Jason Kidd
Fenkiz- Gerald Wallace
Scotty- Devin Harris
Turtle- Antawn Jamison
Paul- Hedo Turkoglu
Island Boy- Monta Ellis
WMD- Andre Miller

ROUND 6

WMD- Rashard Lewis
IslandBoy
Paul
Turtle
Scotty
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

ROUND 7

BrownsTown
Yo123
Rob
D
Fenkiz
Scotty
Turtle
Paul
Island Boy
WMD

ROUND 8

WMD
IslandBoy
Paul
Turtle
Scotty
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

ROUND 9

BrownsTown
Yo123
Rob
D
Fenkiz
Scotty
Turtle
Paul
Island Boy
WMD

ROUND 10

WMD
IslandBoy
Paul
Turtle
Scotty
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

I love you

islandboy843
07-15-2008, 08:00 PM
Josh Howard SF


http://wendellwallace.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/aago090josh-howard-posters.jpg

Paul
07-15-2008, 08:06 PM
SF, Danny Granger

http://www.nba.com/media/act_danny_granger.jpg

islandboy843
07-15-2008, 08:17 PM
Small Forward RUSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

D-Unit
07-15-2008, 08:26 PM
"Rush" is the last word I'd use in this thread. This draft is slow as molasses.

islandboy843
07-15-2008, 08:40 PM
True enough.

Just 3 straight SFs.

yo123
07-15-2008, 10:03 PM
TP's time is up, scotty is OTC.

fenikz
07-15-2008, 10:06 PM
we should probably make a range for the clock as well

like 11 AM to 11 PM EST

yo123
07-15-2008, 10:12 PM
Sounds good to me.

scottyboy
07-15-2008, 10:31 PM
Ok, pick will be up in just a sec

scottyboy
07-15-2008, 10:32 PM
http://img122.exs.cx/img122/8503/RichardsonJasondunkcomp011.jpg

Jason Richardson SG

fenikz
07-15-2008, 10:41 PM
Kevin Martin SG
http://sackings.com/Images/Photos/2007-08/63201_KevinMartin.jpg

PG Baron Davis
SG Dwayne Wade | Kevin Martin
SF Gerald Wallace
PF Elton Brand
C Dwight Howard

WMD
07-15-2008, 10:42 PM
ROUND 1

BrownsTown- LeBron James
Yo123- Kobe Bryant
Rob- Chris Paul
D- Kevin Garnett
Fenkiz- Dwight Howard
Scotty- Tim Duncan
Turtle- Deron Williams
Paul- Amare Stoudamire
Island Boy- Paul Pierce
WMD- Chris Bosh

ROUND 2

WMD- Yao
IslandBoy- Dirk Nowitzki
Paul- Joe Johnson
Turtle- Brandon Roy
Scotty- Josh Smith
Fenkiz- Dwayne Wade
D- Gilbert Arenas
Rob- Carlos Boozer
Yo1230- Carmello Anthony
BrownsTown- Al Jefferson

ROUND 3

BrownsTown- Steve Nash
Yo123- Chauncey Billups
Rob- Andre Igoudala
D- T-Mac
Fenkiz- Baron Davis
Scotty- Michael Redd
Turtle- Tyson Chandler
Paul- Chris Kaman
Island Boy- Marcus Camby
WMD- Caron Butler

ROUND 4

WMD- Allen Iverson
IslandBoy- Shawn Marion
Paul- Tony Parker
Turtle- Corey Maggette
Scotty- Vince Carter
Fenkiz- Elton Brand
D- Rasheed Wallace
Rob- Pau Gasol
Yo123- David West
BrownsTown- Rudy Cool

ROUND 5

BrownsTown- Emeka Okafor
Yo123- Manu Ginobili
Rob- Ray Allen
D- Jason Kidd
Fenkiz- Gerald Wallace
Scotty- Devin Harris
Turtle- Antawn Jamison
Paul- Hedo Turkoglu
Island Boy- Monta Ellis
WMD- Andre Miller

ROUND 6

WMD- Rashard Lewis
IslandBoy- Josh Howard
Paul- Danny Granger
Turtle- Kevin Durant
Scotty- Jason Richardson
Fenkiz- Kevin Martin
D- Tayshaun Prince
Rob- Rip Hamilton
Yo123- Ron Artest
BrownsTown- LaMarcus Aldridge

ROUND 7

BrownsTown- Peja Stojakovic
Yo123- Andrew Bynum
Rob
D- Al Horford
Fenkiz- Samuel Dalembert
Scotty
Turtle
Paul
Island Boy
WMD

ROUND 8

WMD
IslandBoy
Paul
Turtle
Scotty
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

ROUND 9

BrownsTown
Yo123
Rob
D
Fenkiz
Scotty
Turtle
Paul
Island Boy
WMD

ROUND 10

WMD
IslandBoy
Paul
Turtle
Scotty
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

D-Unit
07-15-2008, 11:34 PM
Alrighty then.... Damn you guys for not taking my guys and leaving me in this difficult position now of having to choose. Grrrr....

Looking at my team I need a guy who can play defense cause T-Mac could use help in that area... but not cause disruption... so no Ron Artest. I don't need a guy who gets injured a lot and can't shoot... so no Richard Jefferson. I need a guy who can be effective while not being selfish... A guy who can shut down the other team's go to guy. A need a relatively young guy... A guy who can hit clutch shots... A guy who's always been a winner... A guy who doesn't play soft... A guy that has been called a Reggie Miller stopper.. A Kobe stopper... A T-Mac stopper... and lately... A Hedo stopper...

Where can I find this type of guy???

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/crop-580x580/p2-307853w.jpg

I select Reggie Mi... I mean, Tayshaun Prince. ;)

Rob S
07-15-2008, 11:44 PM
I'll keep the Piston trend going and go with Rip Hamilton who will be the perfect defensive support for Allen and he can still shoot it.

yo123
07-15-2008, 11:56 PM
At this point in the draft, it's hard to pass up an elite perimeter defender and a 18-20 point scorer.

SF Ron Artest

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/7417/artestwithpuppies7eo.jpg

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 12:06 AM
Damn D-Unit.....:(

Turtlepower
07-16-2008, 12:43 AM
I like young teams...

Kevin Durant

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/08Sb5u3gqDcH8/340x.jpg

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 12:55 AM
Damn D-Unit.....:(
Island Boyz FTW!

BrownsTown
07-16-2008, 12:58 AM
I select LaMarcus Aldridge, PF/C

http://www.endscore.com/blogimages/LaMarcus_Aldridge.jpg

An athletic big who can score and has a crazy wingspan to block shots and defend. As a 6th man he can play either post positions well.

and

Peja Stojakavic, SG/SF

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/chris_mannix/02/07/west.needs/p1.peja.jpg

A defined role player...lights out shooter coming off the bench, just imagine him playing with Steve Nash and LeBron James.

yo123
07-16-2008, 01:02 AM
Maybe a little bit of a reach, but I need a center.


Andrew Bynum, C

http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/p1_bynum.jpg


PG- Chauncey Billups
SG- Kobe Bryant, Manu Ginobili
SF- Carmelo Anthony
PF- David West
C- Andrew Bynum

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 01:10 AM
Not a reach man...Good Pick

fenikz
07-16-2008, 01:11 AM
bynum was next on my bb

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 01:12 AM
Island Boyz FTW!


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51vwqPV9yuL._SL500_AA240_.jpg




NO H***

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 11:50 AM
we should probably make a range for the clock as well

like 11 AM to 11 PM EST
So Rob has like 1 hour and 10 min left.

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 01:22 PM
Time's up. Let's get this thing started again.

PF/C Al Horford

http://www.nba.com/media/al_horford_500_070727.jpg

Horford is on the fast track to Super Stardom. One of the best young bigs in the league, he showed as a rookie that the NBA is not too big for him as he banged with the NBA's best in the post and still put up staggering numbers that even a vet would covet.

My team needed to add a banger down low who could stand up to the other big bodied post players in the league and Horford who is starting to look like Dwight Howard Jr with his body and muscle development provides me just that... and he can play PF or C which is nice.

PG Jason Kidd
PG/SG Gilbert Arenas
SG/SF Tracy McGrady . SF Tayshaun Prince
PF/C Kevin Garnett . PF/C Al Horford
PF/C Rasheed Wallace

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0430/nba_g_horford_400.jpg

Turtlepower
07-16-2008, 01:24 PM
Fenikz selects:

Samuel Dalembert

http://www.nba.com/media/dalembert_300_071102.jpg

scottyboy
07-16-2008, 02:45 PM
Hakim Warrick, a young athletic forward who fits in nicely wth my athletic team

http://www.nba.com/media/poy06_warrick_218.jpg

Turtlepower
07-16-2008, 02:49 PM
Greg Oden

http://www.gregodenonline.com/images/greg-oden-8.jpg

Rob S
07-16-2008, 03:04 PM
I will go with Richard Jefferson......great value at this stage imo.

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 03:32 PM
islandboy and wmd, don't go away. Paul has a little over an hour left.

fenikz
07-16-2008, 03:53 PM
C Dwight Howard | Samuel Dalembert
PF Elton Brand
SF Gerald Wallace
SG Dwayne Wade | Kevin Martin
PG Baron Davis

I like my team so far, but I think these last few rounds will decide this.

Paul
07-16-2008, 04:00 PM
Sorry for the hold up.

SG Mike Miller,

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0612/gallery.missedit1201/images/1210_13.jpg

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 04:31 PM
Raymond Felton


http://www.nba.com/media/act_raymond_felton.jpg


My pure PG

fenikz
07-16-2008, 06:17 PM
wmd has 14 more minutes

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 06:31 PM
Time's up!

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 07:35 PM
C Dwight Howard | Samuel Dalembert
PF Elton Brand
SF Gerald Wallace
SG Dwayne Wade | Kevin Martin
PG Baron Davis

I like my team so far, but I think these last few rounds will decide this.
Since this is going so slow, I figured I'd match my team up with yours so far.

I think you have a team that could maybe compete with mine. So I'll be watching who you draft. But right now, I'd have to say my team would beat yours in a series.

C Rasheed Wallace - Showed that he can still outclass Dwight Howard in this year's playoffs using his veteran moves and experience. It was an eye opener for Dwight that he really needs to work on go to moves in the post outside of the dunk.

PF Kevin Garnett | Al Horford - Confident that this duo is better than Elton Brand at PF.

SF Tracy McGrady | Tayshaun Prince - Wallace has a nice defensive game and is a nice contributor on offense, but T-Mac is a Superstar and Prince would hardly get outplayed by Wallace 1 on 1.

SG Gilbert Arenas vs Dwyane Wade - This is always an awesome match up. D-Wade can get to the rim whenever he wants or draw contact, but Arenas is more savvy and can shoot from anywhere on the court, which is still a weakness for Wade.

PG Jason Kidd vs Baron Davis - Kidd is the better distributor, defender, rebounder, floor general, and stays healthy more often, but Davis is more athletic, fast and is the better scorer. Baron is a better fast break PG, but your team appears better suited for the half court game with Brand, Dalembert and Howard... even Wade won the Championship playing the half court game with Shaq. My team was built off the foundation of playing half court ball since no fast break team has ever won the Championship. So Kidd was the way I decided to go at PG.

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 07:39 PM
Shaq


http://www.michronicleonline.com/articlelive/content_images/12-5-2007-MC-WhenAtheltes-Shaquille%20O%27Neal.jpg



Yeah i did it.

Paul
07-16-2008, 07:42 PM
C, Andrew Bogut

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/04/15/andrewbogut_narrowweb__300x431,0.jpg

Decent enough Backup center.

PG: Tony Parker
SG: Joe Johnson | Mike Miller
SF: Hedo Turk | Danny Granger (not sure which I would start)
PF: Amare Stoudemire
C: Chris Kaman | Andrew Bogut

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 07:45 PM
Turtle is here... feniks is here... :D

Damn you scottyboy for not being here. Someone take Sean Williams before he does.



... or before I do. *gasp* :eek:

Turtlepower
07-16-2008, 07:51 PM
Jamal Crawford

http://www.nba.com/media/poy06_crawford_600px.jpg

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 07:53 PM
Turtle is here... feniks is here... :D

Damn you scottyboy for not being here. Someone take Sean Williams before he does.



... or before I do. *gasp* :eek:



Trapppppppppppppppppppppppppp

fenikz
07-16-2008, 07:54 PM
C Rasheed Wallace - Showed that he can still outclass Dwight Howard in this year's playoffs using his veteran moves and experience. It was an eye opener for Dwight that he really needs to work on go to moves in the post outside of the dunk.


lol i'm sure you would be saying this if you didn't draft wallace and had howard

-------------

ROUND 1

BrownsTown- LeBron James
Yo123- Kobe Bryant
Rob- Chris Paul
D- Kevin Garnett
Fenkiz- Dwight Howard
Scotty- Tim Duncan
Turtle- Deron Williams
Paul- Amare Stoudamire
Island Boy- Paul Pierce
WMD- Chris Bosh

ROUND 2

WMD- Yao
IslandBoy- Dirk Nowitzki
Paul- Joe Johnson
Turtle- Brandon Roy
Scotty- Josh Smith
Fenkiz- Dwayne Wade
D- Gilbert Arenas
Rob- Carlos Boozer
Yo1230- Carmello Anthony
BrownsTown- Al Jefferson

ROUND 3

BrownsTown- Steve Nash
Yo123- Chauncey Billups
Rob- Andre Igoudala
D- T-Mac
Fenkiz- Baron Davis
Scotty- Michael Redd
Turtle- Tyson Chandler
Paul- Chris Kaman
Island Boy- Marcus Camby
WMD- Caron Butler

ROUND 4

WMD- Allen Iverson
IslandBoy- Shawn Marion
Paul- Tony Parker
Turtle- Corey Maggette
Scotty- Vince Carter
Fenkiz- Elton Brand
D- Rasheed Wallace
Rob- Pau Gasol
Yo123- David West
BrownsTown- Rudy Cool

ROUND 5

BrownsTown- Emeka Okafor
Yo123- Manu Ginobili
Rob- Ray Allen
D- Jason Kidd
Fenkiz- Gerald Wallace
Scotty- Devin Harris
Turtle- Antawn Jamison
Paul- Hedo Turkoglu
Island Boy- Monta Ellis
WMD- Andre Miller

ROUND 6

WMD- Rashard Lewis
IslandBoy- Josh Howard
Paul- Danny Granger
Turtle- Kevin Durant
Scotty- Jason Richardson
Fenkiz- Kevin Martin
D- Tayshaun Prince
Rob- Rip Hamilton
Yo123- Ron Artest
BrownsTown- LaMarcus Aldridge

ROUND 7

BrownsTown- Peja Stojakovic
Yo123- Andrew Bynum
Rob - Richard Jefferson
D- Al Horford
Fenkiz- Samuel Dalembert
Scotty - Hakim Warrick
Turtle - Greg Oden
Paul - Mike Miller
Island Boy - Raymond Felton
WMD - **SKIPPED**

ROUND 8

WMD - **SKIPPED**
IslandBoy - Shaquelle O'Neal
Paul - Andrew Bogut
Turtle - Jamal Crawford
Scotty
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

ROUND 9

BrownsTown
Yo123
Rob
D
Fenkiz
Scotty
Turtle
Paul
Island Boy
WMD

ROUND 10

WMD
IslandBoy
Paul
Turtle
Scotty
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 08:01 PM
lol i'm sure you would be saying this if you didn't draft wallace and had howard
MOTH can attest to the fact that I have been quite honest about Howard failed us in the playoffs. He was ineffective against Detroit. Had a hard time scoring and it really showed off his lack of touch around the rim. He's so bulky and muscular now, I fear he will lack the soft touch around the rim to get the ball in the hoop. He doesn't have a hook shot, he can't shoot facing the basket and is a liability at the end of games cause he can't knock down his FTs. I'm really hoping and believe he will improve his game. Sheed has years of experience and knows all the tricks in the book that Dwight hasn't learned yet, but it'll come, especially if the Magic keep making it to the playoffs. The experience he got this past year was invaluable. He's still a beast on the boards and on the defensive end and can dunk like a mother, but he needs to refine his offensive skills, develop go to moves, a nice hook shot would be unstoppable... and keep working on FTs. Still my favorite player in the NBA, but I'm not a homer when it comes to the Tragic... I mean Magic.

BrownsTown
07-16-2008, 08:01 PM
In response to D, my matchup with his team.

PG Steve Nash vs. Jason Kidd:

Kidd is the better defender and rebounder, Nash is the better shooter, all around scorer, and distrubutor. Two of those things, shooting and distributing, Nash could be the best at in the game. Adv: Nash

SG Rudy *** vs. Gilber Arenas:

Not even close. *** has the athleticism to defend Arenas at SG and the height to make Gilbert, already an average (or maybe a bit above) defender a non-factor on D. Gilbert is a great scorer, but there is no way he should be playing SG. Hell, it'd be tough to find a SG who wouldn't have an advantage over Gilbert height wise. Adv: ***

SF LeBron James vs. Tracy McGrady

I don't really feel like I need to elaborate on this one. Adv: James

PF: Al Jefferson vs. Kevin Garnett

See above. Adv: Garnett

C: Emeka Okafor vs. Rasheed Wallace

Emeka produces more than Wallace with rebounding and scoring, while both play great D. Difference is, Okafor is more suited to the Center position than Rasheed. I know Sheed played C this year some, but that doesn't mean he's not playing out of position. Sheed is also on the decline while Emeka has about leveled out as a player. Adv: Okafor

Bench:

PF/C LeMarcus Aldridge vs. Al Horford

Both freak athletes with crazy length. Horford has the edge on rebounding whereas Aldridge has the edge in scoring. Difference is, LeMarcus has a year more experience and already has shown he can make the jump to become a 17/8 kind of player, where as anything with Horford moving beyond 10/10 would be speculation. Adv: LeMarcus

SF Peja Stojakavic vs. Tayshaun Prince

Both have their roles on the team, but I'm gonna go Prince here since Stojakavic can really only do one thing, which is shoot, and he's one of the top 5 shooter in the league, but Prince can do a lot more off the bench. Adv: Tayshaun

Rob S
07-16-2008, 08:05 PM
I am going to wait until after the draft to do matchups haha

Roster as of now:

PG: Chris Paul
SG: Ray Allen--Rip Hamilton (starter not set yet)
SF: Andre Igoudala--Richard Jefferson
PF: Carlos Boozer
C: Pau Gasol

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 08:24 PM
In response to D, my matchup with his team.

PG Steve Nash vs. Jason Kidd:

Kidd is the better defender and rebounder, Nash is the better shooter, all around scorer, and distrubutor. Two of those things, shooting and distributing, Nash could be the best at in the game. Adv: Nash

As for who is the better distributor, they are dead even. Two of the game's elite over a long period of time. Nash is the better shooter, but I'll take the guy who is the better defender over the better shooter all the time. Kidd can post up Nash even in isolation and Nash could not do the same.

Adv: Even. Both could battle against each other all day. But by preference, I gotta go with Kidd's defense being an overwhelming difference maker. It's not even close in that category while other categories are quite similar.

SG Rudy *** vs. Gilber Arenas:

Not even close. *** has the athleticism to defend Arenas at SG and the height to make Gilbert, already an average (or maybe a bit above) defender a non-factor on D. Gilbert is a great scorer, but there is no way he should be playing SG. Hell, it'd be tough to find a SG who wouldn't have an advantage over Gilbert height wise. Adv: ***

Now this one is a flat out deceiving. Rudy is a natural SF. You putting him here at SG and make the match up comparison is fine, but in actuality, if you played Rudy at SG, I'd have him matched up against T-Mac or Prince and slide Areans over to PG if I decided to put him in the game instead of Kidd. But let's not discredit Arenas for his defensive skills. He didn't have a complete season, but he still finished top 11 in steals per game. He's ultra savvy and could blow by Rudy or pull up from downtown and hit the jumper. Rudy wishes he had the range of Arenas and while the better dunker, he'd have to also get past Prince, KG, Horford or Sheed to finish off that dunk.

Right now you don't have a true SG, so I'll wait for you to get one before comparing Arenas, but for now since you don't... Adv: Incomplete

SF LeBron James vs. Tracy McGrady

I don't really feel like I need to elaborate on this one. Adv: James
I agree, but let's not make it out to be David vs Goliath. T-Mac is a playa in his own right. Adv: James

PF: Al Jefferson vs. Kevin Garnett

See above. Adv: Garnett
See above. Adv: Garnett

C: Emeka Okafor vs. Rasheed Wallace

Emeka produces more than Wallace with rebounding and scoring, while both play great D. Difference is, Okafor is more suited to the Center position than Rasheed. I know Sheed played C this year some, but that doesn't mean he's not playing out of position. Sheed is also on the decline while Emeka has about leveled out as a player. Adv: Okafor

Since this is about winning now and not a dynasty thing. Okafor still has much to learn to outplay Sheed consistently. Okafor is too short to be a natural Center and he doesn't have the reach of Wallace either. Since Howard couldn't outduel Wallace, neither can Okafor at this stage. Adv: Wallace

Bench:

PF/C LeMarcus Aldridge vs. Al Horford

Both freak athletes with crazy length. Horford has the edge on rebounding whereas Aldridge has the edge in scoring. Difference is, LeMarcus has a year more experience and already has shown he can make the jump to become a 17/8 kind of player, where as anything with Horford moving beyond 10/10 would be speculation. Adv: LeMarcus

I like Aldridge a lot, but I think his stats will fall with the arrival of Oden. I also think his chance to shine will dim. The sky is the limit for Horford and he will be a Superstar on the level of an Amare Stoudemire sooner rather than later.

Adv: Even, since they're both young.

SF Peja Stojakavic vs. Tayshaun Prince

Both have their roles on the team, but I'm gonna go Prince here since Stojakavic can really only do one thing, which is shoot, and he's one of the top 5 shooter in the league, but Prince can do a lot more off the bench. Adv: Tayshaun

Adv: Tay

Response in bold. Close, but I still think I'm better prepared to win now.

BrownsTown
07-16-2008, 08:27 PM
LMAO I'm bad for playing a SG/SF at SG and you're playing a PG at SG and yet that's not wrong at all.

If you can defend the position, if you can do what the position is asked to do, you can play it. I'm sorry you made a bad decision with the two PGs.

Nash is a better distributor than Kidd. No question. Kidd didn't win MVPs for being a floor general. On top of that, Kidd looked foolish in the West, his career is almost over.

In case you didn't notice, Emeka DID outplay Sheed consistently last year. By using the playoff/small sample size argument you're basically trying to make Sheed out to be the best C in the league, which is just not even close to true. He's like a 10 and 7 guy at this point in his career.

Speculation on Horford my friend. He could remain a 10/10 guy whereas Lemarcus has proved himself.

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 08:45 PM
LMAO I'm bad for playing a SG/SF at SG and you're playing a PG at SG and yet that's not wrong at all.

If you can defend the position, if you can do what the position is asked to do, you can play it. I'm sorry you made a bad decision with the two PGs.

Nash is a better distributor than Kidd. No question. Kidd didn't win MVPs for being a floor general.

In case you didn't notice, Emeka DID outplay Sheed consistently last year.

Speculation on Horford my friend. He could remain a 10/10 guy whereas Lemarcus has proved himself.
Is your ass laughed off yet? OK. Arenas is a combo guard. Not sure if you understand that or not, but he's not playing out of position anyway you want to spin it. He's one of the game's best players and you can bet your ass that there's nothing wrong with it.

Rudy is a young guy still learning the game. He's not going to outplay the combination of Arenas, T-Mac or Prince which he will be forced to face. Maybe in 2-3 years, but not now. NO way.

Nash won MVPs because he's a better distributor than Kidd? LOL. That's news to me! He won because he was the most valuable player on a loaded Suns team that won a lot of games (but unfortunately could never win it all). Take him off that team and they suck badly. That's why he won MVP. It's not a reward that goes to best individual play. If so Kobe would have won 5 of them by now. It goes to the most valuable player on a top winning team. Key word is team because Nash could be on the Clippers and put up the same stats but would never win the award. ...and in case you missed the difference... Kidd outclasses Nash by a large margin in defense and rebounds. As for everything else, the difference is insignificant. Can't believe you're trying to say Nash gets the advantage because he's a better distributor than Kidd. That's like saying my blue shirt is more blue than your blue shirt. LOL.

Aldridge and Horford both have bright futures, but how can you say LA is proven? Horford went head on with KG in the playoffs where basketball counts and helped take that series to 7 games. His playoff stats speak for themselves. LA has yet to really prove anything.

Rob S
07-16-2008, 08:51 PM
honestly.....i think a lot of the teams can be competitive in this draft....a lot of them are pretty close.

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 09:04 PM
Shaq asks how does his ass taste? :D

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 09:05 PM
Shaq asks how does his ass taste? :D
You'd have to ask Kobe for that answer.

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 09:09 PM
I think i have a fairly decent team.


C- Marcus Camby- Shaq O'Neal
PF- Dirk Nowitizki
SF- Shawn Marion- Josh Howard
SG- Paul Pierce- Monta Ellis
PG- Monta Ellis- Raymond Felton

BrownsTown
07-16-2008, 09:11 PM
Is your ass laughed off yet? OK. Arenas is a combo guard. Not sure if you understand that or not, but he's not playing out of position anyway you want to spin it. He's one of the game's best players and you can bet your ass that there's nothing wrong with it.

Rudy is a young guy still learning the game. He's not going to outplay the combination of Arenas, T-Mac or Prince which he will be forced to face. Maybe in 2-3 years, but not now. NO way.

Nash won MVPs because he's a better distributor than Kidd? LOL. That's news to me! He won because he was the most valuable player on a loaded Suns team that won a lot of games (but unfortunately could never win it all). Take him off that team and they suck badly. That's why he won MVP. It's not a reward that goes to best individual play. If so Kobe would have won 5 of them by now. It goes to the most valuable player on a top winning team. Key word is team because Nash could be on the Clippers and put up the same stats but would never win the award. ...and in case you missed the difference... Kidd outclasses Nash by a large margin in defense and rebounds. As for everything else, the difference is insignificant. Can't believe you're trying to say Nash gets the advantage because he's a better distributor than Kidd. That's like saying my blue shirt is more blue than your blue shirt. LOL.

Aldridge and Horford both have bright futures, but how can you say LA is proven? Horford went head on with KG in the playoffs where basketball counts and helped take that series to 7 games. His playoff stats speak for themselves. LA has yet to really prove anything.

Arenas is a combo guard at 6'3-6'4? Yea that's gonna work. *** can easily defend him and score on him, no prob. Mike Miller and him both played SG and SF at different times, so you can't use that argument. There's a mismatch no matter who's defending ***, because then what, Kidd on LeBron? Sure.

Nash consistently is averaging 1 or 2 more assists a year than Kidd. Sorry, he's the better distributor. He's the better player.

Aldridge = 17.8 points, 7.6 rebounds, 1.2 blocks

Horford = 10.1 points, 9.7 rebounds, 0.9 blocks.

I call 18 and 8 proven D. And I call that statline far better.

And what's the big deal with me saying lmao? You are the king of the unnecessary LOL my friend.

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 09:14 PM
Damn that's some assist for big men.

BrownsTown
07-16-2008, 09:15 PM
Damn that's some assist for big men.

Hahaha, good catch.

scottyboy
07-16-2008, 09:21 PM
SEAN Mutha-******* Williams

Fits perfectly with my need of an athletic center off the bench to help run, gun and ******* be awesome

http://www.nba.com/media/sean_527_072707.jpg

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 09:21 PM
Arenas is a combo guard at 6'3-6'4? Yea that's gonna work. *** can easily defend him and score on him, no prob. Mike Miller and him both played SG and SF at different times, so you can't use that argument. There's a mismatch no matter who's defending ***, because then what, Kidd on LeBron? Sure.

Nash consistently is averaging 1 or 2 more assists a year than Kidd. Sorry, he's the better distributor. He's the better player.

Aldridge = 17.8 points, 7.6 assists, 1.2 blocks

Horford = 10.1 points, 9.7 assists, 0.9 blocks.

I call 18 and 8 proven D. And I call that statline far better.

And what's the big deal with me saying lmao? You are the king of the unnecessary LOL my friend.
ROTFLMFAO. How's that?

I have no clue what your point was on Arenas there, but you obviously missed the part where I'd play a match up game on Rudy if you played him at SG. Rudy would be matched up against any combination of Arenas, T-Mac or Prince. He's good, but he's not THAT good. I'm not even convinced that Rudy would have an advantage against Gilbert? Can Rudy even keep up with Gilbert up and down the court? I'd like to see that. Just because he's taller doesn't mean he's better.

As for Kidd on LB... huh? Even Lebron as a Point Forward bringing the ball up court wouldn't be matched up against Kidd. I have a Point Forward of my own in Tayshaun.

Until I see LA do something in the playoffs, he's far from proven as you like to claim. Horford is destined for higher stardom than Aldridge. You know it too. Who disagrees? Anyone??? Anyone???

Rob S
07-16-2008, 09:22 PM
I think how teams play together and mesh are going to be more important than these head to head matchups that we are arguing. U can have a great list of players that look good when matched one on one with another teams roster, but that says absolutely nothing for chemistry. And chemistry in basketball is what makes good teams great. Almost every team has good talent in this draft....the question is if they are in the best position to succeed. Be careful to not build team USA from the last olympics haha

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 09:23 PM
Driving to my other job. Be back later.

fenikz
07-16-2008, 09:23 PM
Luol Deng SF
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2007/writers/marty_burns/05/18/bulls.pistons/p1_deng-ap.jpg

C Dwight Howard | Samuel Dalembert
PF Elton Brand
SF Gerald Wallace | Luol Deng
SG Dwayne Wade | Kevin Martin
PG Baron Davis

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 09:24 PM
Im glad i don't have a greedy team then.

BrownsTown
07-16-2008, 09:25 PM
I think how teams play together and mesh are going to be more important than these head to head matchups that we are arguing. U can have a great list of players that look good when matched one on one with another teams roster, but that says absolutely nothing for chemistry. And chemistry in basketball is what makes good teams great. Almost every team has good talent in this draft....the question is if they are in the best position to succeed. Be careful to not build team USA from the last olympics haha

That was actually my point with my first post. D trashed fenikz's team by saying his guys were individually better when fenikz's work much better as a team. So I tried to make him realize, hey, my team is better match-up to match-up than his, but it's not a match-up to match-up game, it's a team game. You need to find people who will work together and that's what you should be arguing.

Rob S
07-16-2008, 09:26 PM
ROTFLMFAO. How's that?

I have no clue what your point was on Arenas there, but you obviously missed the part where I'd play a match up game on Rudy if you played him at SG. Rudy would be matched up against any combination of Arenas, T-Mac or Prince. He's good, but he's not THAT good. I'm not even convinced that Rudy would have an advantage against Gilbert? Can Rudy even keep up with Gilbert up and down the court? I'd like to see that. Just because he's taller doesn't mean he's better.

As for Kidd on LB... huh? Even Lebron as a Point Forward bringing the ball up court wouldn't be matched up against Kidd. I have a Point Forward of my own in Tayshaun.

Until I see LA do something in the playoffs, he's far from proven as you like to claim. Horford is destined for higher stardom than Aldridge. You know it too. Who disagrees? Anyone??? Anyone???

I dont think the playoff argument really has credence. However, I do rate those two guys essentially the same. I LOVE Horford (he was a big part of me winning the NFLDC fantasy.....and I recall being laughed at for my pick too) and I think he is destined to be a very good, albeit never great player. I think he will be better than Lamarcus when its all said and done. However, next year I think they are a wash. Any way u slice it, Aldridge was the more productive player last year and therefore I cant give it to Horford.

Rob S
07-16-2008, 09:27 PM
That was actually my point with my first post. D trashed fenikz's team by saying his guys were individually better when fenikz's work much better as a team. So I tried to make him realize, hey, my team is better match-up to match-up than his, but it's not a match-up to match-up game, it's a team game. You need to find people who will work together and that's what you should be arguing.

Thats why I am saving my argument until I have all my bench set up haha

scottyboy
07-16-2008, 09:28 PM
PG: Devin Harris/ Mike Bibby
SG: Michael Redd/
SF: Vince Carter/Jason Richardson
PF: Josh Smith/ Hakim throw it down Warrick
C: Tim Duncan/ Sean Manbeast Williams

Harris is an unselfish PG who'll lead the break. Every play will be Duncan grabs rebound, throws to Harris who alley-oops Carter, Smith, Williams and Warrick at the same time. And Redd is the spot up 3 point shoota/stunna

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 09:30 PM
Team work is good and all but talent how to come in to account.

BrownsTown
07-16-2008, 09:32 PM
Until I see LA do something in the playoffs, he's far from proven as you like to claim. Horford is destined for higher stardom than Aldridge. You know it too. Who disagrees? Anyone??? Anyone???

I've made my point, but I did want to comment on this, almost unrelated to the draft as it's talking about the future. Aldridge and Horford's stock weren't much different going into the draft, they went in the same area, Aldridge one spot higher in an admittedly weaker draft, they've both been impressive and have the tools and athleticism to become better. Just because Horford is on your team doesn't he's destined for greatness more so than Aldridge. Aldridge is putting up numbers BETTER than Chris Bosh at that point in his career, and with continued development, that's how good he could become. Horford also has great potential, but you're downplaying Aldridge a lot for a former 2nd pick in the draft.

I will, in fact, back this up with stats

Bosh:
Year 1 - 33 minutes, 46 % shooter, 7.4 rebounds, 11.5 points, 1.4 blocks
Year 2 - 37 minutes, 47 % shooter, 8.9 rebounds, 16.8 points, 1.4 blocks

Aldridge
Year 1 - 22 minutes, 50 % shooter, 5.0 rebounds, 9.0 points, 1.2 blocks
Year 2 - 35 minutes, 48% shooter, 7.6 rebounds, 17.8 points, 1.2 blocks

Specifically focus on year two, where there were also two other stats (FT at 76 and 76.2 and assists at 1.6 and 1.9) that also point to similarities. Also focus on the vast improvement both players made from year 1 to year 2.

Rob S
07-16-2008, 09:39 PM
I've made my point, but I did want to comment on this, almost unrelated to the draft as it's talking about the future. Aldridge and Horford's stock weren't much different going into the draft, they went in the same area, Aldridge one spot higher in an admittedly weaker draft, they've both been impressive and have the tools and athleticism to become better. Just because Horford is on your team doesn't he's destined for greatness more so than Aldridge. Aldridge is putting up numbers BETTER than Chris Bosh at that point in his career, and with continued development, that's how good he could become. Horford also has great potential, but you're downplaying Aldridge a lot for a former 2nd pick in the draft.

They are different players too.......its a wash imo...there is no way to prove one better

fenikz
07-16-2008, 09:41 PM
ROUND 1

BrownsTown- LeBron James
Yo123- Kobe Bryant
Rob- Chris Paul
D- Kevin Garnett
Fenkiz- Dwight Howard
Scotty- Tim Duncan
Turtle- Deron Williams
Paul- Amare Stoudamire
Island Boy- Paul Pierce
WMD- Chris Bosh

ROUND 2

WMD- Yao
IslandBoy- Dirk Nowitzki
Paul- Joe Johnson
Turtle- Brandon Roy
Scotty- Josh Smith
Fenkiz- Dwayne Wade
D- Gilbert Arenas
Rob- Carlos Boozer
Yo1230- Carmello Anthony
BrownsTown- Al Jefferson

ROUND 3

BrownsTown- Steve Nash
Yo123- Chauncey Billups
Rob- Andre Igoudala
D- T-Mac
Fenkiz- Baron Davis
Scotty- Michael Redd
Turtle- Tyson Chandler
Paul- Chris Kaman
Island Boy- Marcus Camby
WMD- Caron Butler

ROUND 4

WMD- Allen Iverson
IslandBoy- Shawn Marion
Paul- Tony Parker
Turtle- Corey Maggette
Scotty- Vince Carter
Fenkiz- Elton Brand
D- Rasheed Wallace
Rob- Pau Gasol
Yo123- David West
BrownsTown- Rudy Cool

ROUND 5

BrownsTown- Emeka Okafor
Yo123- Manu Ginobili
Rob- Ray Allen
D- Jason Kidd
Fenkiz- Gerald Wallace
Scotty- Devin Harris
Turtle- Antawn Jamison
Paul- Hedo Turkoglu
Island Boy- Monta Ellis
WMD- Andre Miller

ROUND 6

WMD- Rashard Lewis
IslandBoy- Josh Howard
Paul- Danny Granger
Turtle- Kevin Durant
Scotty- Jason Richardson
Fenkiz- Kevin Martin
D- Tayshaun Prince
Rob- Rip Hamilton
Yo123- Ron Artest
BrownsTown- LaMarcus Aldridge

ROUND 7

BrownsTown- Peja Stojakovic
Yo123- Andrew Bynum
Rob - Richard Jefferson
D- Al Horford
Fenkiz- Samuel Dalembert
Scotty - Hakim Warrick
Turtle - Greg Oden
Paul - Mike Miller
Island Boy - Raymond Felton
WMD - **SKIPPED**

ROUND 8

WMD - **SKIPPED**
IslandBoy - Shaquelle O'Neal
Paul - Andrew Bogut
Turtle - Jamal Crawford
Scotty - Sean Williams
Fenkiz - Luol Deng
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

ROUND 9

BrownsTown
Yo123
Rob
D
Fenkiz
Scotty
Turtle
Paul
Island Boy
WMD

ROUND 10

WMD
IslandBoy
Paul
Turtle
Scotty
Fenkiz
D
Rob
Yo123
BrownsTown

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 09:42 PM
Can we just:



http://www.thisshirtrocks.com/productphotos/drop_it_zoom_display.jpg

BrownsTown
07-16-2008, 09:42 PM
They are different players too.......its a wash imo...there is no way to prove one better

In the future, yes. I thin they both have great things ahead of them, but right now Aldridge has just proven more.

scottyboy
07-16-2008, 09:43 PM
http://www.nba.com/media/sean_527_072707.jpg

in case anyone missed the amazing-ness on the last page...

Rob S
07-16-2008, 09:43 PM
fenkiz,

thanks for updating man....plus rep

Rob S
07-16-2008, 09:44 PM
In the future, yes. I thin they both have great things ahead of them, but right now Aldridge has just proven more.

agreed but i think horford will be better this year actually, but because aldridge has better stats to this point, its a wash imo. I wrote a bigger post on it before that maybe u missed.

islandboy843
07-16-2008, 09:44 PM
D said he was going to his other job so should we just skip him or is he gonna be on soon.

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 09:51 PM
I've made my point, but I did want to comment on this, almost unrelated to the draft as it's talking about the future. Aldridge and Horford's stock weren't much different going into the draft, they went in the same area, Aldridge one spot higher in an admittedly weaker draft, they've both been impressive and have the tools and athleticism to become better. Just because Horford is on your team doesn't he's destined for greatness more so than Aldridge. Aldridge is putting up numbers BETTER than Chris Bosh at that point in his career, and with continued development, that's how good he could become. Horford also has great potential, but you're downplaying Aldridge a lot for a former 2nd pick in the draft.

I will, in fact, back this up with stats

Bosh:
Year 1 - 33 minutes, 46 % shooter, 7.4 rebounds, 11.5 points, 1.4 blocks
Year 2 - 37 minutes, 47 % shooter, 8.9 rebounds, 16.8 points, 1.4 blocks

Aldridge
Year 1 - 22 minutes, 50 % shooter, 5.0 rebounds, 9.0 points, 1.2 blocks
Year 2 - 35 minutes, 48% shooter, 7.6 rebounds, 17.8 points, 1.2 blocks

Specifically focus on year two, where there were also two other stats (FT at 76 and 76.2 and assists at 1.6 and 1.9) that also point to similarities. Also focus on the vast improvement both players made from year 1 to year 2.
Yeah, if we were to believe those stats, we'd also be lead to believe LA is a better player than Bosh and that is definitely NOT true. Stats don't tell the whole picture. Did I really have to tell you that?

But like I pointed out earlier... you didn't pick it up... but I said LA will get overshadowed and his stats will go down next year when Oden returns. Whereas Horford has a clear shot at achieving domination level in ATL where no one will steal a significant part of his stats. His numbers will only improve.

I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt by giving an Even grade, but you if you don't want to settle for that, then just realize what I said when I said the sky is the limit for Horford and he will be a bigger star in the future.

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 09:53 PM
That was actually my point with my first post. D trashed fenikz's team by saying his guys were individually better when fenikz's work much better as a team. So I tried to make him realize, hey, my team is better match-up to match-up than his, but it's not a match-up to match-up game, it's a team game. You need to find people who will work together and that's what you should be arguing.
That's really funny.

fenikz
07-16-2008, 09:54 PM
ummm maybe just pick?

lol didn't think we would need a selection thread for a simple draft

BrownsTown
07-16-2008, 09:55 PM
and the sky is the limit for Aldridge as well, I don't think you realize that. Is Aldridge a better player than Bosh in their 2nd year? Yes, well it's arguable for Bosh but at a glance, yes. Will he be in the future? That remains to be seen. It's the EXACT SAME THING for Horford. It remains to be seen how good he will become, which is why Aldridge has to be ahead in this. There is no such thing as a sure thing when it comes to development. You can't just say he's destined for superstardom the same way I can't say that about Aldridge while being completely certain. But at this point in their careers, Aldridge has the better chance because he's already improved from one year to the next. We don't know Horford will do that.

BTW, you're up.

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 10:10 PM
I did say I was at work right? I would've made my pick when I first got here, but I just had to reply to BT's silliness. Then got busy when someone came by to talk.

PG Rajon Rondo - Best up and coming PG in the league and already has a Championship Ring. His game is pure sickness.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/svenjayne/Sports/8e9c58c889d485280e3fe71349ecf74c-ge.jpg

Rob S
07-16-2008, 10:14 PM
Jermaine O'neal......steal at this stage imo and a GREAT defender to help out if Gasol is overwhelmed.

D-Unit
07-16-2008, 10:16 PM
Jermaine O'neal......steal at this stage imo and a GREAT defender to help out if Gasol is overwhelmed.
He really has taken an undeserving fall. Nice recognition and pick up!

WMD
07-16-2008, 10:17 PM
Alright I'm here.. Sorry, got caught up in some stuff and then had to run off to work. Two picks will be up in a jiffy.

Rob S
07-16-2008, 10:18 PM
He really has taken an undeserving fall. Nice recognition and pick up!

thanks....yeah i just was looking through fantasy rankings actually for a defensive center and stumbled on him haha

Rob S
07-16-2008, 10:20 PM
so....do u want to go 12 rounds or stick to 10?