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WMD
07-10-2008, 11:44 PM
In this thread, we shall discuss the situation of Panhandling.

Do you cough up some change for the poor lad? Do you ignore them? Yell at them? Where are you panhandled most often? Have you ran into the same person more than once, perhaps with a different story as to why they need the change?

Share your panhandling experiences here!

Tampa 2 4 life
07-10-2008, 11:44 PM
I give them counterfeit money, because I'm going to hell anyway.

Dr. Gonzo
07-10-2008, 11:50 PM
I think all homeless should be rounded up into a giant halfway house where we provide them with blankets containing the measles or some other such disease to ensure they are no longer a problem. Homeless people really piss me off.

awfullyquiet
07-10-2008, 11:52 PM
no. and no. this thread sucks. f minus.

BlindSite
07-10-2008, 11:55 PM
Where I go out drinking in the city there's a bus stop that drops me off right at the casino where I wait for a few people who're coming from different areas. Whenever I wait outside there homeless people never leave me the **** alone. Drives me insane.

PalmerToCJ
07-10-2008, 11:58 PM
I think all homeless should be rounded up into a giant halfway house where we provide them with blankets containing the measles or some other such disease to ensure they are no longer a problem. Homeless people really piss me off.

No sense in me rambling on when you said it so well.

yo123
07-11-2008, 12:12 AM
Since it's impossible to tell who is homeless because they were unwillingly put in a bad situation, and who brought in on themselves, I give them nothing.

The Dynasty
07-11-2008, 12:31 AM
Well since there is only one known Homeless person in the town i live in she refuses everything you try and give her. Then come to find out she choices to be homeless and she has a house up in buffalo and she actually has money. So I dont give money.

familyguy555
07-11-2008, 12:40 AM
Theres a funny one in downtown Detroit. Hes got a drum set and... he is funny

kwilk103
07-11-2008, 12:48 AM
theres a guy that plays the saxophone after every pittsburgh event

he always plays country roads when he sees my wvu hat, so i give him a couple bucks; dont know if hes homeless though

i look at their shoes; i always see ones wearing nikes and tims (timberlands); those cost like $80; they're not gettin money from me

bantx
07-11-2008, 12:51 AM
um no, theyre just gonna buy beer with the money and they should go find a job those lazy asses

Staubach12
07-11-2008, 12:51 AM
Some of them are Okay. There are some goofy Hobos in downtown Nashville. One tags "JFK3" all over the place because he believes he's JFK Jr's son. Another goes by Mr. Wonderful. I've seen him around twice. Once, his story was he needed money to pay an outstanding parking ticket. The next time he needed some change to take a bus down to Atlanta to visit his Aunt. Also, you'll get a ton of street performers in Nashville. Particularly on Broadway.

WMD
07-11-2008, 12:52 AM
Theres a funny one in downtown Detroit. Hes got a drum set and... he is funny

Haha.. the guy who hangs out by Ford Field? He's always freestyling on people walking by?

bantx
07-11-2008, 12:54 AM
and the one with the signs that make u feel guilty i just stopped reading the signs after that

kalbears13
07-11-2008, 12:56 AM
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o292/kaddyescalade/homer.jpg

Bum: Well, there are six schools of begging. Bad musician, messed up vet, cripple, fake cripple, religious zelot, and crazy guy. I think you would do well with crazy guy.
Homer: Coke and Pepsi are the same thing! Wake up, people!
Bum: Wow, now, that is good crazy!

WMD
07-11-2008, 12:57 AM
I once had a conversation with a Homeless guy outside of Joe Louis Arena.. I don't remember his story but the first thing he asked me was "You aren't afraid of black people, are you?" I gave him a few dollars.

familyguy555
07-11-2008, 01:10 AM
Haha.. the guy who hangs out by Ford Field? He's always freestyling on people walking by?

HA yep. He's pretty good.

Caddy
07-11-2008, 01:13 AM
and the one with the signs that make u feel guilty i just stopped reading the signs after that

I like to reward creativity when I see homeless guys with signs. For instance, this guy here would receive a dollar.

http://clipmarks.com/image_cache/firstbiggestmost/512/1D22CB4D-A420-4BD4-A563-BFDF13125E1F.jpg

SuperKevin
07-11-2008, 04:30 AM
I always give homeless people money. Last time i was in Atlanta I went through close to 50 dollars. being in the military i always put myself in their shoes since a majority of them are vets who were chewed up and spit out by the VA.

iworshipbender
07-11-2008, 06:22 AM
I like to let other people take care of the trash.

Brent
07-11-2008, 06:42 AM
I ask them a question and if they get it right, they get my change.

duckseason
07-11-2008, 06:47 AM
It's just as hard for me to make money as the next guy. No way in hell do I give money to a stranger for no good reason. Stop asking for money and start asking for job applications. Pull your own damn weight. I'm not a tit, you're not a suckling. If we all walked around with our hands out, we'd all be broke.

What I really hate is how a few of the grocery stores in my area ask if you want your change to go to some charity crap. Hell no. You charge me 89 cents for a single damn lemon, 3 bucks for an avocado, 10 bucks for a 22oz beer, your margins are excellent. You want to give to charity, then take a percentage of all those times you rounded up your prices and do so. That damn change adds up quick and can pay a bill at the end of the month. And everybody already makes a tremendous charitable contribution with every dollar they make, through taxes. Nobody's getting a penny out of me unless they earn it like I did or I know them personally and want to help them.

Smokey Joe
07-11-2008, 07:13 AM
Most panhandlers are either crooks who live in huge houses and just panhandle for a living, or are addicted to drugs and use any money they get to buy those drugs they are addicted to.

Believe it or not, most panhandlers live in bigger houses than you or me. I once heard a story of a family of panhandlers who worked in 3 hour shifts, and made at least a couple grand a day tax free.

So, I never give them any money, as most of them are insincere, and I recommend no one give them money. However, if you feel the need to donate money to the homeless, give it real organizations that you know will go directly to helping the homeless. That's the best way to help them, IMO.

Caddy
07-11-2008, 07:22 AM
Most panhandlers are either crooks who live in huge houses and just panhandle for a living, or are addicted to drugs and use any money they get to buy those drugs they are addicted to.

Believe it or not, most panhandlers live in bigger houses than you or me. I once heard a story of a family of panhandlers who worked in 3 hour shifts, and made at least a couple grand a day tax free.

So, I never give them any money, as most of them are insincere, and I recommend no one give them money. However, if you feel the need to donate money to the homeless, give it real organizations that you know will go directly to helping the homeless. That's the best way to help them, IMO.

I really don't believe that that is actually true. A lot of these beggars truly are homeless and many of them suffer from mental illnesses that the average person just wouldn't understand. I think we should all be a little more understanding and charitable in our daily lives. A lot of these people truly need the help of those who can afford to give up a dollar or two.

That's not to say that true pan handlers don't exist because they do, but I like to think that their are different types of homeless people who actually need financial aide and shouldn't be persecuted because of the minority who are dishonest.

Smokey Joe
07-11-2008, 07:30 AM
I really don't believe that that is actually true. A lot of these beggars truly are homeless and many of them suffer from mental illnesses that the average person just wouldn't understand.I think we should all be a little more understanding and charitable in our daily lives. A lot of these people truly need the help of those who can afford to give up a dollar or two.

That's not to say that true pan handlers don't exist because they do, but I like to think that their are different types of homeless people who actually need financial aide and shouldn't be persecuted because of the minority who are dishonest.
There are real homeless people, and a lot of them suffer from mental illness, but the reality is most of the true homeless people mind their own business and don't beg.

Even if your right, which your not, what would giving a few bucks to a man with a serious mental illness do? Nothing. Like I said, if you want to be charitable, give your money to organizations that work with the homeless. Your money would be best used there because they work on rehabilitating the homeless and giving them a shelter and some food.

It is incredibly stupid though to give handouts to them, because there is a good chance that money is either going to be spent on booze or drugs, or it's some crook making a living.

Caddy
07-11-2008, 07:40 AM
There are real homeless people, and a lot of them suffer from mental illness, but the reality is most of the true homeless people mind their own business and don't beg.

Even if your right, which your not, what would giving a few bucks to a man with a serious mental illness do? Nothing. Like I said, if you want to be charitable, give your money to organizations that work with the homeless. Your money would be best used there because they work on rehabilitating the homeless and giving them a shelter and some food.

It is incredibly stupid though to give handouts to them, because there is a good chance that money is either going to be spent on booze or drugs, or it's some crook making a living.

I think it is incredibly stupid to believe that a large majority of them are crooks who live in bigger houses then most of us. The basis of your argument is merely here-say.

Smokey Joe
07-11-2008, 07:46 AM
I think it is incredibly stupid to believe that a large majority of them are crooks who live in bigger houses then most of us. The basis of your argument is merely here-say.
Believe what you will, but to say it's better to give handouts than just give to organizations would be insane (if you believe that).

Caddy
07-11-2008, 07:49 AM
Believe what you will, but to say it's better to give handouts than just give to organizations would be insane (if you believe that).

I hardly said that so please don't act like I did. I am just merely saying that the genuine homeless shouldn't be treated poorly because of the minority of true pan handlers who openly deceive the public.

Smokey Joe
07-11-2008, 08:05 AM
I hardly said that so please don't act like I did. I am just merely saying that the genuine homeless shouldn't be treated poorly because of the minority of true pan handlers who openly deceive the public.
Oh, I'm not saying that you said that, just pointing it out. That's why I added the "if you believe that" in parenthesis. You never stated your opinion on that, so I was just being safe.

Also, I firmly believe most panhandlers are crooks. There is one guy who always panhandles and receives money in this own spot by me, and I know for a fact he is addicted to drugs. He's got own leg and lives a ****** life, but why should I help feed his drug addictions because of that?

I remember watching a show once, and they picked a random panhandler to videotape and follow. Sure enough, this "homeless woman" walked a mile to her Mercedes, and drove off to her mansion.

I find it naive to think most panhandlers are honest. I admire how you see the best in them, but I don't believe them. There are many more crooks and drug addicts out there panhandling than you can ever imagine. I don't treat them rudely, I just mind my own business.

Draft Ginger
07-11-2008, 08:06 AM
Most panhandlers are either crooks who live in huge houses and just panhandle for a living, or are addicted to drugs and use any money they get to buy those drugs they are addicted to.

Believe it or not, most panhandlers live in bigger houses than you or me. I once heard a story of a family of panhandlers who worked in 3 hour shifts, and made at least a couple grand a day tax free.

So, I never give them any money, as most of them are insincere, and I recommend no one give them money. However, if you feel the need to donate money to the homeless, give it real organizations that you know will go directly to helping the homeless. That's the best way to help them, IMO.

That is laughable. Just another overblown media story that focuses on a rare and probably untrue situation.

Panhandlers aren't driving home to their mansions after spending the day grubbing the streets for quarters.

Smokey Joe
07-11-2008, 08:09 AM
That is laughable. Just another overblown media story that focuses on a rare and probably untrue situation.

Panhandlers aren't driving home to their mansions after spending the day grubbing the streets for quarters.
Believe what you will, but I know someone who dealt with panhandlers around Chicago everyday for several years, and the vast majority of them were either crooks or drug addicts.

Caddy
07-11-2008, 08:10 AM
Oh, I'm not saying that you said that, just pointing it out. That's why I added the "if you believe that" in parenthesis. You never stated your opinion on that, so I was just being safe.

Also, I firmly believe most panhandlers are crooks. There is one guy who always panhandles and receives money in this own spot by me, and I know for a fact he is addicted to drugs. He's got own leg and lives a ****** life, but why should I help feed his drug addictions because of that?

I remember watching a show once, and they picked a random panhandler to videotape and follow. Sure enough, this "homeless woman" walked a mile to her Mercedes, and drove off to her mansion.

I find it naive to think most panhandlers are honest. I admire how you see the best in them, but I don't believe them. There are many more crooks and drug addicts out there panhandling than you can ever imagine. I don't treat them rudely, I just mind my own business.

I understand the part about not supporting pan handlers, but I still don't agree that the majority of them are crooks.

Some of them definitely are drug addicts and it is entirely their fault that they are forced to beg for money. It's just unfortunate that the truly needy have to miss out because of the poor behaviour of others.

Draft Ginger
07-11-2008, 08:12 AM
Believe what you will, but I know someone who dealt with panhandlers around Chicago everyday for several years, and the vast majority of them were either crooks or drug addicts.

Of course a ton are drug addicts. Tons are alcoholics as well. That doesn't mean they're driving home to a mansion. I'm just saying that if you think panhandling is this big, profitable thing, you're sadly mistaken.

Smokey Joe
07-11-2008, 08:16 AM
I believe that if you are a genuine person and are homeless, you wouldn't be out panhandling. Like if I were homeless because of a series of unfortunate events, I would not panhandle. How many genuine people like to ask for charity? I refuse to get charity. And I believe that most of the genuine homeless out there act the same.

TheBuffaloBills
07-11-2008, 08:17 AM
There is one guy in buffalo who always wears a winter jacket and never cuts his hair. Its in a bundle that is down to his knees. However he was a story in the newspaper many years ago that said he was actually a millionaire. He just chooses to be homeless. Pretty weird.

Smokey Joe
07-11-2008, 08:18 AM
Of course a ton are drug addicts. Tons are alcoholics as well. That doesn't mean they're driving home to a mansion. I'm just saying that if you think panhandling is this big, profitable thing, you're sadly mistaken.
Where did I ever say that? Panhandling as a business is probably the least common. The most common is to feed a drug addiction, etc. Then you do have some actual homeless begging for money.

Draft Ginger
07-11-2008, 08:19 AM
I believe that if you are a genuine person and are homeless, you wouldn't be out panhandling. Like if I were homeless because of a series of unfortunate events, I would not panhandle. How many genuine people like to ask for charity? I refuse to get charity. And I believe that most of the genuine homeless out there act the same.

What do you mean by genuine homeless? You think those people stand out on the street all day for fun?

And I also think it's easy to say you wouldn't panhandle when you haven't lived on the street for even a day.

Caddy
07-11-2008, 08:19 AM
There are real homeless people, and a lot of them suffer from mental illness, but the reality is most of the true homeless people mind their own business and don't beg.

Even if your right, which your not, what would giving a few bucks to a man with a serious mental illness do? Nothing. Like I said, if you want to be charitable, give your money to organizations that work with the homeless. Your money would be best used there because they work on rehabilitating the homeless and giving them a shelter and some food.

It is incredibly stupid though to give handouts to them, because there is a good chance that money is either going to be spent on booze or drugs, or it's some crook making a living.

There really is no point arguing with you about this. You are obviously quite set in your opinions about the homeless; that most of them are crooks or drug addicts. I'm sure a large number are addicts, but believing they are crooks is naive. Show me some statistical data to back up that claim and I will concede defeat.

Draft Ginger
07-11-2008, 08:20 AM
Where did I ever say that? Panhandling as a business is probably the least common. The most common is to feed a drug addiction, etc. Then you do have some actual homeless begging for money.

How are drug addicts not actual homeless?

Smokey Joe
07-11-2008, 08:21 AM
How are drug addicts not actual homeless?
I meant genuine homeless, who try to actually make a living. Not bums who have wasted their life on drugs.

Smokey Joe
07-11-2008, 08:22 AM
There really is no point arguing with you about this. You are obviously quite set in your opinions about the homeless; that most of them are crooks or drug addicts. I'm sure a large number are addicts, but believing they are crooks is naive. Show me some statistical data to back up that claim and I will concede defeat.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't believe that the majority of the homeless are crooks or drug addicts. I believe that most of the PANHANDLERS are though.

Draft Ginger
07-11-2008, 08:24 AM
I meant genuine homeless, who try to actually make a living. Not bums who have wasted their life on drugs.

Hah, there are few homeless people who are trying to make an actual living. At least, not the ones you see grubbing for money in tattered clothes on the curb.

CJSchneider
07-11-2008, 08:33 AM
I offer to buy them a meal or an article of clothing rather then hand over cash. Cash can be used for liquor, tobacco or other drugs they don't need.
If they are seriously in need, they will take the meal or clothing. Most of them refuse the meal and just ask for cash; hey, beggars can't be choosers.