The Official 2008 Beijing Olympics Thread

[UKfan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/medals_table/default.stm, GB third in Golds, fifth overall. Far far far surpassed my expectations, for once proud to be English! :D

[Gay Ork Wang]

"we Gonna Save The ************* Day Yeah!

[yourfavestoner]

America, **** yeah! Freedom is the only way, yeah! Terrorists, your game is through, 'cause now you have to answer to America, **** yeah! So lick my butt and suck on my balls! America, **** yeah! What you gonna do when we come for you now!

[Go_Eagles77]

Haha that would be amazing if we played the Team America song instead of the National Anthem at the medal ceremony. Very wrong, but hilarious. haha.

[bsaza2358]

Lick my @$$ and suck on my balls...

[islandboy843]

America, **** yeah! Freedom is the only way, yeah! Terrorists, your game is through, 'cause now you have to answer to America, **** yeah! So lick my butt and suck on my balls! America, **** yeah! What you gonna do when we come for you now!


Instead of Matt Damon they could have Micheal Phelps sayin his name all the time.


Mike Phelps

[drowe]

"He Kexin! Oh noooooo!"

[Modano]

I wasn't sure about the ages of the chinese gymnasts, but I was giving the judges the benefit of the doubt regarding scoring until I saw Fei Cheng of China win the bronze in the women's horse vault when she landed on her knees.


Ladies and gentlemen, the fix is in.

Exactly...

[TimD]

I want to see the judges explanation for that. I mean she fell!

[islandboy843]

WW3 Begins in......

[Tha Wootster]

http://artfiles.art.com/images/-/Ewing-Galloway/Portrait-of-Baby-Crying-Photographic-Print-C12140105.jpeg

[Gay Ork Wang]

I want to see the judges explanation for that. I mean she fell!
U do know its not all about the landing...

[awfullyquiet]

U do know its not all about the landing...

But to fall on the landing means

1) someone underrotated (which should drop the points)
2) she landed with a KNEE out of bounds (deduction + drop in execution)

i don't understand. her vault wasn't the most brilliant thing ever. and the landing is a large part of execution.

[sweetness34]

All you need to do is look at the little Chinese gymnast to see that there is no way in hell these girls are 16 years old. Shawn Johnson while small and very young looking is not even close to what these Chinese girls look like. 16 is still a very young age, so of course she'll look young. But the Chinese girls look like they are in Junior High and with the reports coming out about how they have lied about ages it's just icing on top of the cake.

[Modano]

Anyway, the olympics haven't been great for Italy so far. Some medals from fencing (as usually) but a lot of upsets especially in team sports: soccer out in the quarter finals, basket men team didn't even qualified (and I don't even know if we have a women team!), volley women out, water polo men and women out.
USA got a good chance to win the majority of team sports events: basketabll both women and men, water polo, softball, soccer women, volley men and women (I don't see them beating Cuba but they can win the bronze medal).

[bantx]

U do know its not all about the landing...

do u know anything about gymnastics?

[Gay Ork Wang]

do u know anything about gymnastics?
yes and its not all about the landing. Sure the landing is a huge part but the difficulty and what u do in the air is important too

[awfullyquiet]

Anyway, the olympics haven't been great for Italy so far. Some medals from fencing (as usually) but a lot of upsets especially in team sports: soccer out in the quarter finals, basket men team didn't even qualified (and I don't even know if we have a women team!), volley women out, water polo men and women out.
USA got a good chance to win the majority of team sports events: basketabll both women and men, water polo, softball, soccer women, volley men and women (I don't see them beating Cuba but they can win the bronze medal).

nor cycling. i was expecting some miracle. but the spainards keep miracling. two medals though is better than 0 medals.

that and andy schleck is a beast.

poor italy.

[Gay Ork Wang]

So 110 Meter hurdles its all about the Cuban guy trying to beat himself?

[yourfavestoner]

I think everybody should cry a river because China is obviously using younger, less experienced, and less athletically developed competitors.

[drowe]

So 110 Meter hurdles its all about the Cuban guy trying to beat himself?

i beat myself last night and i didn't get a frickin' medal.

[adschofield]

Americans announcers ? I mean way to be neutral and objective over China

Way to introduce facts into the argument...Where was this bias in their arguments?

[drowe]

I think everybody should cry a river because China is obviously using younger, less experienced, and less athletically developed competitors.

maybe the age thing could be overlooked.

and, maybe the questionable judging could be overlooked.

but, the combination of both make things seem very shady. too many things have favored the chinese for it to be overlooked.

[adschofield]

What im saying is that they are looking really young, but to say they are all younger because they look like it is wrong. Ur basically accusing them of being something just because someone else did it before.

And Im sorry that i dont believe everything i read on the internet

Yeah, it's not like the New York Times is one of the best news source on the planet...

[Modano]

nor cycling. i was expecting some miracle. but the spainards keep miracling. two medals though is better than 0 medals.

that and andy schleck is a beast.

poor italy.

The problem is that here in Italy it's soccer soccer soccer. The other sports have ridicolous coverage and so young guys tend to play only soccer. A lot of athletes have to work part-time because they don't get enough money even if they are very succesful. For example, Valentina Vezzali won 3 gold medals but she's way poorer than the less payed player in Serie A (the most important soccer league in the country).

[adschofield]

See this is the part of the 'pro-american gymnastics' that I struggle to find credible. Everybody here is quick to bash the officials for decisions they clearly think are wrong despite the fact that nobody actually know exactly what comprises a final score nor is anybody capable of doing so at an Olympic level. I have watched a lot of the gymnastics during these games and listening to Australian commentators (Who are biased to no country partly due to our uber suckage at the sport) have not questioned any of the results being given. They have pretty much agreed with all the decisions which have been made throughout the games and constantly acknowledge when mistakes are made, even minor mistakes, when they occur.

Maybe their is bias. I'm not an Olympic official and I certainly don't know how to calculate the score of a gymnastic routine. However, I'm pretty sure that nobody else on this forum is also capable of calculating the score either making any complaints relatively futile.

Maybe because the Aussies don't know jack **** about gymnastics and that's why they're not questioning the judging...The Italians, who are relatively anti-American btw, has had commentators question the judging...

[awfullyquiet]

The problem is that here in Italy it's soccer soccer soccer. The other sports have ridicolous coverage and so young guys tend to play only soccer. A lot of athletes have to work part-time because they don't get enough money even if they are very succesful. For example, Valentina Vezzali won 3 gold medals but she's way poorer than the less payed player in Serie A (the most important soccer league in the country).


Oh i know, i know. That's part of the game though.

Football is ridiculous in Italy. Hands down. My father goes nuts over it. I personally am like. Whatevs, someone should learn how to play badmitton.

[yourfavestoner]

maybe the age thing could be overlooked.

and, maybe the questionable judging could be overlooked.

but, the combination of both make things seem very shady. too many things have favored the chinese for it to be overlooked.

I could see the problem is there's been questionable judging. I just think it's whining when people complain that China is using girls that are too young. We're getting beat by a bunch of preteens? WTF? Shouldn't these much more mature (mentally and physically) and more seasoned gymnasts be kicking a bunch 12 year olds in the ass?

[adschofield]

U do know its not all about the landing...

Oh yeah, like how she under rotated and was not perpendicular to the vault when she vaulted...Her hands were far apart and her legs were spread yet...but yeah, she deserved the bronze because it was 'difficult'

[Tha Wootster]

Maybe because the Aussies don't know jack **** about gymnastics and that's why they're not questioning the judging...The Italians, who are relatively anti-American btw, has had commentators question the judging...

You seriously need to take off your blind american sunglasses ads.

[Modano]

I could see the problem is there's been questionable judging. I just think it's whining when people complain that China is using girls that are too young. We're getting beat by a bunch of preteens? WTF? Shouldn't these much more mature (mentally and physically) and more seasoned gymnasts be kicking these 12 year olds in the ass?

Hmm.. as far as I know, it's a matter of weight and elasticity. A younger girl is more flexible and it's easier for her to do the majority of the exercises. This is the reason why you won't find many female gymnasts who are older than 22.

[Tha Wootster]

Oh yeah, like how she under rotated and was not perpendicular to the vault when she vaulted...Her hands were far apart and her legs were spread yet...but yeah, she deserved the bronze because it was 'difficult'

Hey I look forward to see you in London in 2012. They will probably take you as a judge since you know everything about gymnastic.

[adschofield]

You seriously need to take off your blind american sunglasses ads.

I will...When someone proves me wrong on an argument based on facts...According to you and Renji, we're wrong b/c:

a. All Americans are biased and the Gymnastics experts on NBC were just lying to us.

b. We're not gymnastics experts (True, but neither are you, and it doesn't change the validity of our arguments based on expert's opinions)

But yeah, we're just blind, pompous Americans who only care about Gold Medals and not the integrity of the Olympics...It's not like we've been contesting every Gold Medal won...just the shady Gymnastics competition

[drowe]

I could see the problem is there's been questionable judging. I just think it's whining when people complain that China is using girls that are too young. We're getting beat by a bunch of preteens? WTF? Shouldn't these much more mature (mentally and physically) and more seasoned gymnasts be kicking a bunch 12 year olds in the ass?

well, i don't know the first thing about flexibility (can't even scratch my dick without pulling a muscle) but, i'm guessing the youth is a benefit as far as flexibility is concerned. plus, some girls do peak athletically in the early teens.

[Modano]

Maybe because the Aussies don't know jack **** about gymnastics and that's why they're not questioning the judging...The Italians, who are relatively anti-American btw, has had commentators question the judging...

Yes, I agree that italians are relatively anti-American even if it's not the case of Yuri Chechi (who is the announcer). But anyway he was one of the best gymnast of the last decade so I do trust his judgment.
I don't want to offend the aussies (considering also that Australia is the home of Stephanie Rice :P ) but I don't remember a good australian gymnast, so maybe the australian announcers are not so competent..

[adschofield]

Hey I look forward to see you in London in 2012. They will probably take you as a judge since you know everything about gymnastic.

So what was incorrect about my assessment?

[Tha Wootster]

Yes, I agree that italians are relatively anti-American even if it's not the case of Yuri Chechi (who is the announcer). But anyway he was one of the best gymnast of the last decade so I do trust his judgment.
I don't want to offend the aussies (considering also that Australia is the home of Stephanie Rice :P ) but I don't remember a good australian gymnast, so maybe the australian announcers are not so competent..

It has nothing to do with where you come from. Just because I never seen any italians footballers do that means they don't know jack about it ? No sense.

[Gay Ork Wang]

So what was incorrect about my assessment?
your assessment that any announcer that says everything is okay is incompetent

[Modano]

It has nothing to do with where you come from. Just because I never seen any italians footballers do that means they don't know jack about it ? No sense.

I wasn't saying that and I didn't mean to offend anyone... I'm just saying that the announcer here is one of the best gymnast of the last decade but that I don't know if the australian announcer is a competent one... I don't know, it's gymnastic popular in Australia? Do they have a good tradition in gymnastic? Is the announcer a former gymnast?

[Tha Wootster]

I wasn't saying that and I didn't mean to offend anyone... I'm just saying that the announcer here is one of the best gymnast of the last decade but that I don't know if the australian announcer is a competent one... I don't know, it's gymnastic popular in Australia? Do they have a good tradition in gymnastic? Is the announcer a former gymnast?

Since I'm canadian I can't answer to this question as I don't listen to australian television :P but as for Canada the experts agreed with the judges for all the scores.

[adschofield]

your assessment that any announcer that says everything is okay is incompetent

So why is my source incompetent? Anyone going to present facts? Or maybe just continue to whine about how Americans are pompous assholes?

[JeffSamardzijaIRISH]

Nastia should've won the Uneven Bars arguement over.

[Crickett]

It has nothing to do with where you come from. Just because I never seen any italians footballers do that means they don't know jack about it ? No sense.

Well, I'd say its one of those things that we can believe the experts or our lying eyes. I don't know jack **** about soccer. But I do know enough that if I ever saw someone score a goal that actually counted where someone picked up the ball with their hands and threw it in to the goal, the fix is in.

Or, did the Russians deserve the gold in 2002 too?

[Modano]

Since I'm canadian I can't answer to this question as I don't listen to australian television :P but as for Canada the experts agreed with the judges for all the scores.

Talking about Canada, the canadian girl who finished second in the 100m hurdles is one of the ugliest I've seen in a while.

[Tha Wootster]

Talking about Canada, the canadian girl who finished second in the 100m hurdles is one of the ugliest I've seen in a while.

ah the 110m hurdles. indeed. :P

[Tha Wootster]

Nastia should've won the Uneven Bars arguement over.

The Chinese girl won because of the execution score. arguement over.

[adschofield]

The Chinese girl won because of the execution score. arguement over.

According to one judge...

[Gay Ork Wang]

So why is my source incompetent? Anyone going to present facts? Or maybe just continue to whine about how Americans are pompous assholes?
No im whining about u whining

[Modano]

http://www.stephanie-rice.com/stephanie-rice-facebook10.jpg

http://www.stephanie-rice.com/stephanie-rice-facebook2.jpg

Seriously, she deserved another gold medal for being a freak.

[Tha Wootster]

According to one judge...

Again I look forward to see you in London in 2012.

[JeffSamardzijaIRISH]

The Chinese girl won because of the execution score. arguement over.

their scores were tied, both execution and difficulty... she won because of some bs tiebreak stuff and nastia's execution should've been higher than He Kexin's.

[adschofield]

Again I look forward to see you in London in 2012.

Again, thanks for trying to have a factual argument, and not something that resorts to petty insults

[TimD]

All we are saying is we don't disagree with the judging, and we're skeptical of the Chinese girls age. Leave it at that.

[adschofield]

No, I'm whining about you whining

I'm arguing, you're whining...But I suppose it's a matter of definition and point of view

[adschofield]

All we are saying is we don't disagree with the judging, and we're skeptical of the Chinese girls age. Leave it at that.

I disagree with the judging, but I will say that I disagree with earlier statements from some posters that somehow the judging system is rigged in the Chinese, but rather that the Americans got screwed by the ineptness of some judges...

[Tha Wootster]

Again, thanks for trying to have a factual argument, and not something that resorts to petty insults

Because NBC announcers said something I gotta believe them right ? Cause they can't be wrong...

[Gay Ork Wang]

I'm arguing, you're whining...But I suppose it's a matter of definition and point of view
Uve been whining all thread how the americans always get screwed

[adschofield]

Because NBC announcers said something I gotta believe them right ? Cause they can't be wrong...

They most certainly can be wrong, but you have yet to present any factual arguments that they were wrong

[adschofield]

You've been whining all thread about how the Americans always get screwed

Always get screwed? Hmm, not quite...I've only had a problem with the judging for the last several gymnastics competitions...And like I said, the difference between 'whining' and 'arguing' is a matter of point of view.

[JeffSamardzijaIRISH]

Yes the gymnastics judging in this olympics has been downright awful.

[Tha Wootster]

They most certainly can be wrong, but you have yet to present any arguments that they were wrong

http://www.rds.ca/jo/chroniques/258025.html

Have fun reading french.

[Tha Wootster]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-08/18/content_9460914.htm

and read that too.

[adschofield]

Neither of those articles were justifying the judging but simply recounting the event and the results, but who knows maybe I lost something in translation....

[Tha Wootster]

Neither of those articles were justifying the judging but simply recounting the event and the results, but who knows maybe I lost something in translation....

You won't find a article JUSTIFYING the judging... you will just find articles recaping the competition and the errors she made.

[Tha Wootster]

I do agree with you at some point that the new gymnastic scoring system is a bit ridiculous (I suggest all of you to read about it) and it's hard for the judge to do their job.

[BlindSite]

I do agree with you at some point that the new gymnastic scoring system is a bit ridiculous (I suggest all of you to read about it) and it's hard for the judge to do their job.

Really? Judging people spinning and running at their fastest speeds and having to pick faults with it in front of a few billion people to decide who gets three medals is stressful and hard?

I thought everyone hated America and loved the Chinese because that's why the chinese are getting medals, they threatened judges with death and being run over by a tank.

[/sarcasm/

Oh and adschofield stop acting like a moron, you said Australian's don't know **** about gym, well Daria Dura was a huge medal chance till she injured herself in qualifications. There was an aussie on the judging panel, and there's an aussie on the committee for olympic gym. You arrogance is astounding, it rises in level to your stupidity.

[Tha Wootster]

Really? Judging people spinning and running at their fastest speeds and having to pick faults with it in front of a few billion people to decide who gets three medals is stressful and hard?

I thought everyone hated America and loved the Chinese because that's why the chinese are getting medals, they threatened judges with death and being run over by a tank.

[/sarcasm/

Oh and adschofield stop acting like a moron, you said Australian's don't know **** about gym, well Daria Dura was a huge medal chance till she injured herself in qualifications. There was an aussie on the judging panel, and there's an aussie on the committee for olympic gym. You arrogance is astounding, it rises in level to your stupidity.

I love the last part. thank you!

[drowe]

Oh and adschofield stop acting like a moron, you said Australian's don't know **** about gym, well Daria Dura was a huge medal chance till she injured herself in qualifications.

question:

when you say she was a huge medal chance, do you mean her chances of getting a medal were huge, or do you mean she was a huge gymnast with a chance for a medal? because, if you meant the latter, i'm terribly sorry i missed it.

[VoteLynnSwan]

regarding the judges... on the broadcast last night the announcers made an interesting point... of the 6 judges on the panel, 4 of them were from countries that had NEVER had a medalist in ANY gymnastic event.

they mentioned that perhaps these judges just don't know what great gymnastics is supposed to look like because they're inexperienced... certainly a possibility.

the Australian judge in the uneven bars last night was just completely off however. He rated He Kexin a 9.3 for execution, and Nastia a 9.0. The biggest difference any of the other judges had between the two was a 9.0 for Kexin and an 8.9 for Nastia. So somehow he came up with at least 2 tenths more deductions than anyone else... that's huge in gymnastics.

[BlindSite]

Answer:

It's painfully clear to anyone with knowledge of the English language.

[sweetness34]

Answer:

It's painfully clear to anyone with knowledge of the English language.

No, anyone with clear knowledge of the english language would have said she was a girl who had a huge chance at medaling in Beijing.

;)

[sweetness34]

regarding the judges... on the broadcast last night the announcers made an interesting point... of the 6 judges on the panel, 4 of them were from countries that had NEVER had a medalist in ANY gymnastic event.

they mentioned that perhaps these judges just don't know what great gymnastics is supposed to look like because they're inexperienced... certainly a possibility.

the Australian judge in the uneven bars last night was just completely off however. He rated He Kexin a 9.3 for execution, and Nastia a 9.0. The biggest difference any of the other judges had between the two was a 9.0 for Kexin and an 8.9 for Nastia. So somehow he came up with at least 2 tenths more deductions than anyone else... that's huge in gymnastics.

Damn Aussie's. :D

I realize that judging mistakes will occur, especially in gymnastics. But some of the scores were just horribly off, almost blatant.

A girl not only does not stick her landing on the vault, she falls down on her knees and still finishes ahead of Sacramone? Granted the start value was higher but there are also deductions that occur from form break, position on vault (if your back is arched they deduct you), etc...There has been only one perfect score in an event that I know of, and even the best of performances get knocked down for little things and you're telling me a girl who can't even land on her feet after her vault gets a medal? GMAFB.

I'd be saying the same thing if it happened to another competitor that wasn't from the United States. The judging in the gymnastics competetion was down right disgraceful.

[sweetness34]

Hell Paul Hamm should not have won the Gold Medal in 2004 after the judges marked up his difficulty level, misjudged his routine.

There has to be a change in how they score these competitors because it's getting worse every 4 years.

[BlindSite]

No, anyone with clear knowledge of the english language would have said she was a girl who had a huge chance at medaling in Beijing.

;)

Either is acceptable. Smileys are not.

regarding the judges... on the broadcast last night the announcers made an interesting point... of the 6 judges on the panel, 4 of them were from countries that had NEVER had a medalist in ANY gymnastic event.

they mentioned that perhaps these judges just don't know what great gymnastics is supposed to look like because they're inexperienced... certainly a possibility.


You're not insane enough to suggest that because someone doesn't have "one from their country" they can't assess...

Last I checked there's a lot of people on these boards who live outside the US but know a damn sight lot more about football than a lot of Americans.

They don't know what a good gymnast looks like. Sounds like moronic announcers trying to make excuses for their gymnasts not winning gold.


the Australian judge in the uneven bars last night was just completely off however. He rated He Kexin a 9.3 for execution, and Nastia a 9.0. The biggest difference any of the other judges had between the two was a 9.0 for Kexin and an 8.9 for Nastia. So somehow he came up with at least 2 tenths more deductions than anyone else... that's huge in gymnastics.
The first sentence makes no sense.

Secondly there is 5 specific element groups in the uneven bars where there can be problems. All of these problems are subject to interpretation. Just because someone disagrees doesn't make them wrong.

Gymnastics isn't about right and wrong, its about varying degrees, so he judged one a little harsher than the other, there's no reason someone would make up scores.



Do you realise how stupid your argument is? An American announcer complains that the judges that aren't giving Americans gold medals because they don't have a medalist in the olympics for gymnastics and at one stage there was a difference between what one judge scored and another.

OMG CONSPIRACY EVERYONE HATES US AND THE JUDGES ON THE PANEL DON'T KNOW ANYTHIGN EOME GOME OMG thank god for the announcer who couldn't get a job on the olympic judging panel if they tried was able to point this out and open my eyes.

[eaglesfan_45]

Lets try and lighten the mood in here!

Nastia Liukin
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii231/chick_20/NL2.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/aaronstonelake/liukin_nastia_7.jpg

Stephanie Rice
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o405/joehism/0607145600.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn13/AJordanaire23/StephanieRice_Davenport2.jpg
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u358/clusterfvck/steph_rice_police_officer.jpg

Alicia Sacramone
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm317/awesomepossum429/alicia-sacramone.jpg
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm62/jluna-09/Alicia.jpg

[BlindSite]

Damn Aussie's. :D

I realize that judging mistakes will occur, especially in gymnastics. But some of the scores were just horribly off, almost blatant.

A girl not only does not stick her landing on the vault, she falls down on her knees and still finishes ahead of Sacramone? Granted the start value was higher but there are also deductions that occur from form break, position on vault (if your back is arched they deduct you), etc...There has been only one perfect score in an event that I know of, and even the best of performances get knocked down for little things and you're telling me a girl who can't even land on her feet after her vault gets a medal? GMAFB.

I'd be saying the same thing if it happened to another competitor that wasn't from the United States. The judging in the gymnastics competetion was down right disgraceful.

There's 5 points in the routine that can be marked down, failure to stick a landing depending on its degree is only worth .1, .3 or .5 point deduction. So yes, you can fail to stick a landing and still beat someone who does.

[eaglesfan_45]

Lets try and lighten the mood in here!

Nastia Liukin
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii231/chick_20/NL2.jpg
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii28/aaronstonelake/liukin_nastia_7.jpg

Stephanie Rice
http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o405/joehism/0607145600.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn13/AJordanaire23/StephanieRice_Davenport2.jpg
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u358/clusterfvck/steph_rice_police_officer.jpg

Alicia Sacramone
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm317/awesomepossum429/alicia-sacramone.jpg
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm62/jluna-09/Alicia.jpg

bumped. This needs to be seen, to much negativity this thread need this.

[VoteLynnSwan]

Either is acceptable. Smileys are not.




You're not insane enough to suggest that because someone doesn't have "one from their country" they can't assess...

Last I checked there's a lot of people on these boards who live outside the US but know a damn sight lot more about football than a lot of Americans.

They don't know what a good gymnast looks like. Sounds like moronic announcers trying to make excuses for their gymnasts not winning gold.


The first sentence makes no sense.

Secondly there is 5 specific element groups in the uneven bars where there can be problems. All of these problems are subject to interpretation. Just because someone disagrees doesn't make them wrong.

Gymnastics isn't about right and wrong, its about varying degrees, so he judged one a little harsher than the other, there's no reason someone would make up scores.



Do you realise how stupid your argument is? An American announcer complains that the judges that aren't giving Americans gold medals because they don't have a medalist in the olympics for gymnastics and at one stage there was a difference between what one judge scored and another.

OMG CONSPIRACY EVERYONE HATES US AND THE JUDGES ON THE PANEL DON'T KNOW ANYTHIGN EOME GOME OMG thank god for the announcer who couldn't get a job on the olympic judging panel if they tried was able to point this out and open my eyes.


how many times does this have to be mentioned before it gets through to you people.

It's not just the Americans who have noticed these judging inconsistencies. As Modano has stated earlier... the Italian announcers have also noted inconsistencies in the judging, i'm sure there have been others as well.

This argument about the announcers being bias is just ridiculous. You didn't hear a word from them when the Romanian gymnast surpasses both Johnson and Liuken in the floor routine. She had a better routine, she got the medal, they had no problem with it.

so please... just get over yourself, this whole matter has nothing to do with you. If you don't think there's anything wrong with the judging, then fine, just go somewhere else and let us arrogant, whining Americans complain about something that won't be changed, and won't even be acknowledged.

[BlindSite]

Good argument, "I'm wrong, leave me alone to shout about it"

I think I'll do that.

[awfullyquiet]

Do you realise how stupid your argument is? An American announcer complains that the judges that aren't giving Americans gold medals because they don't have a medalist in the olympics for gymnastics and at one stage there was a difference between what one judge scored and another.

OMG CONSPIRACY EVERYONE HATES US AND THE JUDGES ON THE PANEL DON'T KNOW ANYTHIGN EOME GOME OMG thank god for the announcer who couldn't get a job on the olympic judging panel if they tried was able to point this out and open my eyes.

I think you're hating here too much.

I like to portend myself as being unbiased. Especially with my drastic media hate/hype. I root for italy more than america (generally)... The problem is is you are so friggan biased, everything you say, one relates to something you know, even if it's not anything you know about. You like to move situations to something you do know, even if they're NOT very relevant to make yourself sound more relavent. Annoying.

Two. The chinese probably cheated, that kills the spirit of the game. Go watch cool runnings. When it becomes all about winning, nothing makes you happy.

[sweetness34]

There's 5 points in the routine that can be marked down, failure to stick a landing depending on its degree is only worth .1, .3 or .5 point deduction. So yes, you can fail to stick a landing and still beat someone who does.

I realize that, but there are also form break deductions as well while the vaulter is in the air. Legs coming apart, legs bent, hand placement...And even before they vault, arched back, hand placement on vault, etc...Point being we aren't the only ones who are saying the judges suck.

And not only did the Chinese girl not stick it, she fell to the ground.

[Caddy]

Maybe because the Aussies don't know jack **** about gymnastics and that's why they're not questioning the judging...The Italians, who are relatively anti-American btw, has had commentators question the judging...

Thanks for that completely stupid and childish response. For your information one of the judges yesterday was from Australia so maybe, I mean you definitely, don't know as much as you think you do.

Yes, I agree that italians are relatively anti-American even if it's not the case of Yuri Chechi (who is the announcer). But anyway he was one of the best gymnast of the last decade so I do trust his judgment.
I don't want to offend the aussies (considering also that Australia is the home of Stephanie Rice :P ) but I don't remember a good australian gymnast, so maybe the australian announcers are not so competent..

Australia have never been amazing at gymnastics but we did compete in Beijing with our girls all around team finishing their highest place ever. The commentator was an ex-gymnast and clearly knew every single move and mistake that was made.

[JeffSamardzijaIRISH]

There's 5 points in the routine that can be marked down, failure to stick a landing depending on its degree is only worth .1, .3 or .5 point deduction. So yes, you can fail to stick a landing and still beat someone who does.

When you fall not only does point deduction occurs, execution goes down. Landing on your knees is not executing.

[sweetness34]

Again, another Chinese gymnast gets a score higher than she should. Two severe balance checks along with a couple others and a step on the landing and she gets a 15.9? C'mon.

Not that it matters cuz we have two girls that'll smash her but the scores are way too high.

[nemesis3394]

shawn johnson ftw!!

[yourfavestoner]

America! **** Yeah!

[JeffSamardzijaIRISH]

Again, another Chinese gymnast gets a score higher than she should. Two severe balance checks along with a couple others and a step on the landing and she gets a 15.9? C'mon.

Not that it matters cuz we have two girls that'll smash her but the scores are way too high.

Yea 15.9 is one of the highest scores in this olympics in the vault. only 3 scores I believe I heard were higher than 16.0 so that's wow. She should've gotten lower idk what's up.

But WOOO SHAWN JOHNSON!!! GO NASTIA LIUKIN!!!!!

[Go Cowboys]

Shawn Johnson, Alicia and Nastia make the olympics Great

[JeffSamardzijaIRISH]

Aw even though Nastia lost Shawn's was good too. GO NASTIA AND SHAWN!!!!

[Go Cowboys]

Aw even though Nastia lost Shawn's was good too. GO NASTIA AND SHAWN!!!!
She just returned the favor from the other night, they went 1-2 with other at 1 and the other at 2

[TimD]

Horton deserves gold. his was so much better than the chinese guys. bs

[sweetness34]

Horton deserves gold. his was so much better than the chinese guys. bs

Did the Chinese guy mess up in his routine? Bc he stuck his landing something Horton didn't do.

[VoteLynnSwan]

no this one was a fair result... Horton had a few deductions that my untrained gymnastics eye noticed, and he had the step.

The chinese gymnast had a higher start value i believe, and that really determined it.

The "bias" American announcer said it right here when he said "We haven't said this much during these games, but the judges got this one right"

[sweetness34]

And the "bias" announcers have been spot on all competition. They have not homered toward the US, they've called out bad performances (ie the mens pommel horse) and they've praised great performances from other countries.

This crew has been far from biased IMO. I'd say Gaines was more biased in the Swimming events than the Gymnastics crew.

[Modano]

Another "strange" gold medal for China. The chinese won because she didn't receive a penalty that she should have received. The spanish girl made the same mistake and she was penalized :roll:
In 2012, in London, China will win WAAAAY less medals, showing that they've learned the art of cheating from South Korea (33 medals in Seul) and Spain (more gold medals in Barcelona than in the other olympics combined).

[VoteLynnSwan]

Another "strange" gold medal for China. The chinese won because she didn't receive a penalty that she should have received. The spanish girl made the same mistake and she was penalized :roll:
In 2012, in London, China will win WAAAAY less medals, showing that they've learned the art of cheating from South Korea (33 medals in Seul) and Spain (more gold medals in Barcelona than in the other olympics combined).

which event was this in?

[Modano]

which event was this in?

Windsurfing

[eaglesfan_45]

Heres an article about that spanish basketball team picture:
http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/basketball/news/story?id=3541355&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab4pos2

if you didn't see it:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/08/12/advertisement.jpg

Something I found very funny:
Guard Jose Manuel Calderon, a member of the Spanish Olympic squad and the NBA's Toronto Raptors, has said the picture was never intended to have a racist tone.
"We thought it was appropriate, and the idea was conceived as a friendly gesture; it was never offensive," Calderon said. "We have a lot of respect for the Chinese people; actually, some of my best friends in Toronto are of Chinese background. Only a confused mind would want to turn this into a controversy."


What a lame @$$ excuse.

[Modano]

Well, mr Kobe Bryant finally played at his best. He just dominated that game, great showing by Kidd too. But the best news of the olympics is the return of the flash, he has been amazing so far.

[BigJohn98]

Usain Bolt just broke Michael Johnson's record. 19.30 in the 200m. WOW!

[Bob Sanders Dreadlock]

Bolt> Phelps

[Gay Ork Wang]

I said it before and ill always say it again :D

[Gay Ork Wang]

Another "strange" gold medal for China. The chinese won because she didn't receive a penalty that she should have received. The spanish girl made the same mistake and she was penalized :roll:
In 2012, in London, China will win WAAAAY less medals, showing that they've learned the art of cheating from South Korea (33 medals in Seul) and Spain (more gold medals in Barcelona than in the other olympics combined).
yes cause every country cheats in their own country. China has already had a lot of medals in Athen and they were especially preparing for the olympics in their own country. I mean I at least get a lil bit the claims that the judges were kinda off sometimes. but to say those countries cheat is really really dumb. I mean in all sorts of sports u have the home advantage and the athletes get the extra spark from the own fans and their cheers. Just because its in their own country and they are successful its always cheating by them? really? Its not like china has been horrible all the years before. In athen they were just 4 medals behind the americans and everyone has had high expectations for china. but i mean keep on whining and think they are cheaters and every country cheats

[Canadian_kid16]

Bolt> Phelps

I agree...pure speed like that on land > speed in the water.

[Punisher]

Carl Lewis>Phelps

Can people really forget his dominance?

[sweetness34]

Lol 8 golds > 3 golds. Water or not. That and Phelps has more World Records than Bolt does in these Olympics.

:D

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Bolt is not human. I never thought Michael Johnson's record would be broken especially this soon. Scary thing is Bolt hasn't even run a complete race in his career yet. That was a crazy dance. Martina finished second but was disqualified for running out of his lane, then Spearmon who finished third was disqualified too for running out of his lane, so Shawn Crawford was bumped to silver, and Walter Dix who finished 5th was bumped to Bronze. It was into a head wind believe it or not. Crazy. One of the greatest sports accomplishments ever. Setting the world records with ease at the 100 and 200 is something almost nothing else can match to. These records are hard to beat they aren't like Swimming in which almost every single race has a new world record. That is one thing that bothered me about swimming, how was it that 4/5ths of the events had new world records. That was crazy.

[drowe]

Bolt is not human. I never thought Michael Johnson's record would be broken especially this soon. Scary thing is Bolt hasn't even run a complete race in his career yet. That was a crazy dance. Martina finished second but was disqualified for running out of his lane, then Spearmon who finished third was disqualified too for running out of his lane, so Shawn Crawford was bumped to silver, and Walter Dix who finished 5th was bumped to Bronze. It was into a head wind believe it or not. Crazy. One of the greatest sports accomplishments ever. Setting the world records with ease at the 100 and 200 is something almost nothing else can match to. These records are hard to beat they aren't like Swimming in which almost every single race has a new world record. That is one thing that bothered me about swimming, how was it that 4/5ths of the events had new world records. That was crazy.

it was a combo of the water cube built to be fast, and the fact that the LZR suits were very fast as well.

not many records went down in Athens...they had an outdoor pool there.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

it was a combo of the water cube built to be fast, and the fact that the LZR suits were very fast as well.

not many records went down in Athens...they had an outdoor pool there.

Yeah I found it outrageous how there were 25 world records and 65 olympic records set along the way in swimming. That is rediculous. What Bolt did though is incredible. First ever to set both World records at the olympics in the arguably two most competitive and distinct races. A healthy Tyson *** could challenge Bolt in both the 100 and 200 but it would take Bolt easing up too early for *** to beat him.

[Gay Ork Wang]

The Chinese air is full of doping

[soybean]

we shoulda put tyron lue on the redeem team.

[D-Unit]

ghetto,
Are you still worried that Team USA might not win gold? Australia just got worked.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

ghetto,
Are you still worried that Team USA might not win gold? Australia just got worked.

Argentina poses a real threat especially if we shoot free throws and three pointers like that. We most likely will win by 20 but if they force us to shoot outside and Manu is on there is always a possibility. A lot though is Dependant on the health of Nocioni, he has an uncanny ability of pissing off players and he will be on full throttle trying his best to get Kobe, LeBron, and Melo to swing. He is probably the best NBA player in terms of who players hate the most. Delfino has been playing lights out and Scola and Oberto are tough inside. Scola went for 37 the other game. Plus vets like Prignoni and others this is probably their toughest challenge, I am missing Walter out there though.

[sweetness34]

yes cause every country cheats in their own country. China has already had a lot of medals in Athen and they were especially preparing for the olympics in their own country. I mean I at least get a lil bit the claims that the judges were kinda off sometimes. but to say those countries cheat is really really dumb. I mean in all sorts of sports u have the home advantage and the athletes get the extra spark from the own fans and their cheers. Just because its in their own country and they are successful its always cheating by them? really? Its not like china has been horrible all the years before. In athen they were just 4 medals behind the americans and everyone has had high expectations for china. but i mean keep on whining and think they are cheaters and every country cheats

Well China does cheat, their girls gymnasts are younger than 16, as has been reported in the NY Times. The judging in the gymnastics seemed to favor the Chinese a lot, although they did deserve most of the high scores they got.

China is a powerhouse now, especially in athletics but in some areas in these games I will say that they were favorably scored and they also use girls younger than they are supposed to in gymnastics.

[sweetness34]

The United States has been far and away the best team in these Olympics, period. 4 years ago they were inconsistent, now they are blowing teams out of the water. I don't see any way they lose these games, even if they play Argentina. They are hands down the most talented team and they are playing the best right now.

[Tha Wootster]

any of you saw the phelps gold medal conspiracy ? LOL

[awfullyquiet]

any of you saw the phelps gold medal conspiracy ? LOL

You can't conspire data and video.

[UKfan]

Chris Hoy > all others, beast.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/00792/hoy_792815c.jpg

[SeanTaylorRIP]

The scary thing about Bolt is that it won't be until after the Olympics when he gets a new running coach and learns how to start and run the turns. Still as a raw runner he is the fastest ever. There is plenty of room though for him to get complacent, when you dominate the field what will his motivation be since he has the world record and the gold medals. Even Tyson G ay who I have called one of the most gifted runners ever on his best day could do no better than 19.5. Bolt can run sub 19.2 with some tweaks and experience. I do think however a healthy Tyson G ay can run a 9.7 100 on his best day, so if Bolt ever has a bad start G ay is capable of taking it from him, but right now there isn't another human being on the earth with his speed.

[D-Unit]

I think Bolt should line up at WR for the Cowboys. ;)

[sweetness34]

any of you saw the phelps gold medal conspiracy ? LOL

You are comparing touch pads and scoring. The pads had worked 100% every event and they registered right when they re-tested them. There was no conspiracy in that race. Phelps touched first and it registered. The pad doesn't play favorites, but judges can.

[eaglesfan_45]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3542649

This might cross the line politically, but I found this really interesting. If it is deemed political please delete.

[soybean]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3542649

This might cross the line politically, but I found this really interesting. If it is deemed political please delete.

why did you post that?

[eaglesfan_45]

why did you post that?

involves the olympics

[soybean]

involves the olympics

it's satire that touches upon a touchy subject, frankly im surprised espn allowed this.

[eaglesfan_45]

it's satire that touches upon a touchy subject, frankly im surprised espn allowed this.

no, its got some jokes in it but the hologram building and covering up slums is all true, I am disapointed in the Chinese they had me fooled.

[Twiddler]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics/7569430.stm

BBC reporter in Beijing mistaken as Michael Phelps and a mob of Chinese ensues.

[yo123]

Well I hope the rest of world enjoyed the 4 years in which their basketball team was any sort of threat to the US.

[djp]

Usain Bolt is slow

[S4L]

Usain Bolt is slow

Damn straight! A cheetah would run circles around that flatfoot.

[Caddy]

Usain Bolt is absolutely incredible.

[themaninblack]

Usain Bolt should be American.

[Caddy]

Usain Bolt should be American.

You have enough good athletes already. Let another country have their moment of glory.

[Cunningham]

misty may pretty much rocks my world

[BigJohn98]

Walter Dix wins bronze in the 200m since Spearmon got DQed.

[sweetness34]

Walter Dix wins bronze in the 200m since Spearmon got DQed.

Hi, this is 11:35pm...8pm called and said you're late. ;)

[Gay Ork Wang]

Im an idiot

[scottyboy]

Id say america is only really dominant in swimming which gives them almost half of their gold medals. I mean even if the chinese femal gymnasts are suspended and the medals are giving to the US its still almost the same. I dont get how u can say America is the most dominant one.

i THINK(not positive) he was talking just about the basketball team

[Gay Ork Wang]

oh yea then its true!

[BigJohn98]

Hi, this is 11:35pm...8pm called and said you're late. ;)

I must be living under a rock then? Haha

[bantx]

Both men and women was disqualified from 400 meters relay for dropping the baton, and for the first time in awhile girls softball loses to Japan, suppose to be a garenteed gold. Not looking good for us

[vatech=accdomination]

how is it that the US beats japan, japan goes to the bronze medal game, wins, come back and beat the US one time and they win the gold? kind of an extremely unfair standard.

[SuperMcgee]

Women's soccer game was great. US really turned it on late and started getting great chances, good thing Solo kept them in it for them to take advantage.

[Ravens1991]

USA had our 211.5 wrestler get hospitalized for kidney failure he had a legit shot at a gold medal, and we had a boxer pass out who had medal potential also. It was probably because of weight cutting, America especially in wrestling emphasises(sp) weight cutting while Russia(the most dominate place of wrestling, their 3rd stringers would medal) doesnt weight cut. It is interesting, I dont think cutting 10-15 pounds is that bad, but the wrestler tried to cut to 211.5 from 240. That is dangerous unless you know you have the fat and you diet properly and lose the last 5-8 pounds by water, that sounds like a lot but he could probably lose 5 pounds of water during a practice then sit in a sauna for half an hour and he is set.

[UKfan]

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/services/its/intranet/projects/webdev/sandbox/matmannion/sandbox/olympics

Thought you guys might be interested, just a table someone at my old university knocked up to rank countries by how many medals they got in comparison to their population, Jamaica is top.

[bantx]

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/IOC-orders-investigation-into-He-Kexin-s-age?urn=oly,102564

[Caddy]

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/services/its/intranet/projects/webdev/sandbox/matmannion/sandbox/olympics

Thought you guys might be interested, just a table someone at my old university knocked up to rank countries by how many medals they got in comparison to their population, Jamaica is top.

Yeah we are that good in Australia.

[BigJohn98]

If I hear the name Fabio one more time...

[Bruce]

Results from Phelps first race.

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/8351/phelps2px4.jpg

[Modano]

I'm impressed by both the american volleyball teams. I didn't know they were that good, they beat a lot of good teams in order to advance to the finals.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Yeeyah Brian Clay. Basketball team is looking hot.

[T-RICH49]

If the basketball team wins gold can we call them Dream Team V 2.0

[Brodeur]

If the basketball team wins gold can we call them Dream Team V 2.0

It's the Redeem Team.

[BigJohn98]

Melo shot 3-14. Wow.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

They better not play like this against Spain. IF Nocioni was fully healthy and Ginobili didn't get hurt this would have been a tight game the way US played. Their offensive set is still give it to LeBron, Kobe, or Melo and watch them go one on one even if the defense all collapses on them and the perimeter is wide open but they try to go one on 4.

[awfullyquiet]

Melo shot 3-14. Wow.

but what? he hit 16 from the line? 100%ft?

whatevs.

[Sniper]

IF Nocioni was fully healthy and Ginobili didn't get hurt this would have been a tight game the way US played. Their offensive set is still give it to LeBron, Kobe, or Melo and watch them go one on one even if the defense all collapses on them and the perimeter is wide open but they try to go one on 4.

If is the worst word in sports. It didn't happen, so there's no point in dealing with the what would have happened if...part of things.

[sweetness34]

I hate Carmelo so much. He's a ball hog that doesn't do anything to create for his teammates.

Spain is a bit of a trap game though. Already beat the **** out of them, and that's dangerous grounds for an upset.

[Brodeur]

I hate Carmelo so much. He's a ball hog that doesn't do anything to create for his teammates.

Spain is a bit of a trap game though. Already beat the **** out of them, and that's dangerous grounds for an upset.

No they aren't. With Calderon hobbled, they have even less of a chance then they had before (which was zero), so it's basically in the negatives now. And Melo was the best player for the team in 2006 and 2007, and he's still more useful to the team than Carlos Boozer or Tayshaun Prince.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

If is the worst word in sports. It didn't happen, so there's no point in dealing with the what would have happened if...part of things.
My point though is that if they play the way they played today against Argentina against Spain, then it's over.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

I am also so happy Jeremy Warner got his ass blazed. He is such a little punk, so cocky and he's talking about beating MJ's record, try winning the gold first. He was such a little princess after the race, I mean US freaking swept it and he's pissed because a fellow teammate won gold. Also when he realize Merritt was crushing him he gave up on the final 15 meters and didn't even care that he almost lost even the silver medal. Here a guy like Neville is throwing his body to get a bronze medal, while Wariner is being a girl because he won silver, and even almost let it go. I knew Merritt was going to win as I called even before Merritt's US trials win.

[drowe]

I am also so happy Jeremy Warner got his ass blazed. He is such a little punk, so cocky and he's talking about beating MJ's record, try winning the gold first. He was such a little princess after the race, I mean US freaking swept it and he's pissed because a fellow teammate won gold. Also when he realize Merritt was crushing him he gave up on the final 15 meters and didn't even care that he almost lost even the silver medal. Here a guy like Neville is throwing his body to get a bronze medal, while Wariner is being a girl because he won silver, and even almost let it go. I knew Merritt was going to win as I called even before Merritt's US trials win.

yeah, Warner sucked at life. he was such a little baby about it. makes me happy he lost.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

He shouldn't get a spot on the relay team for the final because it's obvious that all he cares about is his own agenda and not the team's agenda. We would still kill without him anyways with Merritt, Neville, Angelo Taylor, and Kerron Clement.

[Bruce]

What NBC won't show you about Phelps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhjwnsVUeto

[Sniper]

What NBC won't show you about Phelps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhjwnsVUeto

My video isn't working. What happened?

[Gay Ork Wang]

Okay, you get 3 more days, which is about how long it will take for the US to go postal on your gold medal margin using track/field as the crux.
not exactly 3 more days :D

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Mens+Womens 4x400 meter relays are the only track events left, Lagat the bust got 9th in the 5,000. But we are guaranteed at least silver in Mens and Womens indoor volleyball, Mens and Womens Basketball and I don't know what else, oh an mens water polo. At least we already tied last Olympics medal count except not in the golds.

[Gay Ork Wang]

Did the US show the 4x100 meter semifinals and finals already?

[SeanTaylorRIP]

Did the US show the 4x100 meter semifinals and finals already?

Yeah. Two medals thrown away.

[Gay Ork Wang]

Results for the 4x400 Men:
America Wins with an Olympic Record and a big distance, 2nd was bahamas i think, 3rd was Russia

[MaxV]

Sorry if already posted.

Cuban taekwondo athlete kicks referee, banned for life.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0823/oly_g_matos_300.jpg

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/judo/news/story?id=3549903

[fenikz]

Sorry if already posted.

Cuban taekwondo athlete kicks referee, banned for life.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0823/oly_g_matos_300.jpg

http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/judo/news/story?id=3549903

i love it.

[bantx]

Team USA plays for the gold in a little bit

[Caddy]

Australia stops the Chinese domination in diving. Yeah!

[yo123]

So glad the gold medal bball game is late at night instead of early in the morning.

USA- 108
Spain- 84

[bantx]

Wade playing real good right now needs to hold on to the ball on that fast break

[yo123]

Wade is such a beast. I hope he can stay healthy this year I love watching him play.

This game is being called way too closely.

[bantx]

yeah its gold medal game let them play

[familyguy555]

whos in your avy bantx?

usa lookin good

[bantx]

whos in your avy bantx?

usa lookin good

im trying to figure that out lol

king james with a powerful move

[yo123]

I don't care how much experience Jason Kidd has, he is just completely worthless to this team.

[Brodeur]

I don't care how much experience Jason Kidd has, he is just completely worthless to this team.

No more than Carlos Boozer or right now Carmelo Anthony.

[djp]

Wow, how good is Dwayne Wade?

He is just in the zone.

[yo123]

Just a pathetic defensive effort by both teams.

btw Rudy Fernandez is going to be a real solid NBA player, I thought that before the olympics started. The Blazers are so loaded with Roy, Oden, Aldridge, Rudy, Jerryd Bayless...

And for all the hate Tayshaun Prince has gotten here I don't think he's been bad at all during the olympics.

[yo123]

No more than Carlos Boozer or right now Carmelo Anthony.

Well Boozer doesn't even play so I don't count him, and at least Melo gives you some offense. Kidd doesn't give you offense or defense, just turnovers and a body that the defense doesn't need to guard.

[djp]

Spain riding their wave right now.... Kobe shouldn't be playing right now. He's playing terribly. Get Wade, Bosh, and Paul the ball.

[djp]

And then Kobe makes an absolutely impossible shot.

[djp]

Kobe sacking up BIG time in crunch time.

This is a great game.

[Brodeur]

That dunk by Rudy was just disgusting.

[djp]

Dwight Howard made to look like a little girl there.

[djp]

OMG KOBE. incredible

[yo123]

Spain riding their wave right now.... Kobe shouldn't be playing right now. He's playing terribly. Get Wade, Bosh, and Paul the ball.

He wasn't playing well, but he's the best player in the world. I want the ball in his hands in crunch time, whether he's playing well or not.

[djp]

He wasn't playing well, but he's the best player in the world. I want the ball in his hands in crunch time, whether he's playing well or not.

Yes, he definitely turned it around. But he was taking random threes, refusing to pass, and playing shoddy defense.

Now he's just an animal.

[DiG]

kobe bryant = ownage.

[Brodeur]

It's okay, the gold medal is where it belongs again.

[Crickett]

USA wins. And boy am I glad they didn't take Kobe Bryant out. If he wasn't in there, Spain might have actually won it.

[bantx]

Team USA victory batches!

[niel89]

kobe is amazing

[Gay Ork Wang]

china won 2 gold medals in boxing o.O

[Caddy]

Australia ended up with 14 gold medals. 13 of them were in sports involving water O.o

[Modano]

im trying to figure that out lol

king james with a powerful move

It's Sara Varone, one of the biggest bitches in italian TV.
Anyway, Wade and Kobe played one hell of a game, and USA is back on top.

[SeanTaylorRIP]

I know they will be inviting him back next go round but Carmelo shouldn't be on the next olympic team. Wayy too many players who are already bring more than him like Iguodala, Josh Smith, etc. Melo's career IMO will fade he will obviously average 25+ every year but on terrible shooting percentages. Antoine Walker v2.

[Brodeur]

I know they will be inviting him back next go round but Carmelo shouldn't be on the next olympic team. Wayy too many players who are already bring more than him like Iguodala, Josh Smith, etc. Melo's career IMO will fade he will obviously average 25+ every year but on terrible shooting percentages. Antoine Walker v2.

Except that Walker never averaged more than 23.4 points a game and never shot above 43.5 percent, while Melo has averaged 24.4 points for his career so far on a very solid 46.2 percent based on how many shots he takes. I know Melo struggled in these olympics but there's no way Smith or Iggy belong on the team over him and there's no way he's Walker Version 2.

[sweetness34]

No they aren't. With Calderon hobbled, they have even less of a chance then they had before (which was zero), so it's basically in the negatives now. And Melo was the best player for the team in 2006 and 2007, and he's still more useful to the team than Carlos Boozer or Tayshaun Prince.

Yep, zero chance to win that game. What was I thinking?

[YAYareaRB]

We need another big man. They should have brought in KG last summer.

[Brodeur]

Yep, zero chance to win that game. What was I thinking?

I must have missed Spain having a lead after the first quarter.

[yo123]

We need another big man. They should have brought in KG last summer.

I think he turned them down. How about Al Jefferson? Although he doesn't play a lot of defense.

[djp]

I must have missed Spain having a lead after the first quarter.

I think he was making fun of somebody saying Spain had no chance to win the game earlier in the thread.

[Brodeur]

I think he was making fun of somebody saying Spain had no chance to win the game earlier in the thread.

I was the one who said that so I was making my lame case.

[BlindSite]

The US team started off slow against any non crap teams in the first quarters anyway.

Sucks our womens team fell apart through injuries.

[sweetness34]

I was the one who said that so I was making my lame case.

Ha I was just giving you ****. A lot closer than people expected and wanted but in the back of my mind I knew Spain was going to come to play and we might have a bit of a let down. You smack a team once and you let your guard down when you play them again.

[keylime_5]

Jimmy Page is a perfect fit for the closing ceremony.....He's the only famous British guy I know who looks Chinese. Ties together the London and Beijing themes.

[bantx]

bolt had so much time to spare amazing..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzSpPaCIG0g