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djp
08-10-2008, 03:29 PM
QB Tony Romo (kept for a 6th round pick)
RB Clinton Portis
RB Rudi Johnson
WR Terrell Owens
WR Roy Williams
WR/RB Fred Taylor (Kept for 7th round pick)
TE Vernon Davis
K Phil Dawson
DEF Jacksonville Jaguars

Bench

QB Philip Rivers
RB DeShaun Foster
WR Sidney Rice
RB Ladell Betts
RB Jerious Norwood
RB Kolby Smith
WR Justin Gage
WR Robert Meachem
TE Kevin Boss

12 team league. Kept players required a 2 round penalty. 11th pick of 12. A crapload of WR's were kept (Moss, Braylon, Holmes, Jennings, Bowe, Marshall, more) and only a few RB's and QB's.

1st (11) Portis
2nd (14) Owens

UKfan
08-10-2008, 03:37 PM
Not a bad team by any means...

8 team league

QB Philip Rivers
RB Ladainian Tomlinson
RB Ryan Grant
WR Braylon Edwards
WR Plaxico Burress
WR Santonio Holmes
TE Tony Gonzalez
K Rob Bironas
DEF Indy

BN WR Roddy White
BN RB Willis McGahee
BN RB Darren McFadden
BN QB Jake Delhomme
BN WR Vincent Jackson
BN TE Alge Crumpler

Xiomera
08-10-2008, 03:41 PM
I'm curious DJP . . . who could you have kept other than Fred Taylor?

703SKINS202
08-10-2008, 03:41 PM
QB Tony Romo (kept for a 6th round pick)
RB Clinton Portis
RB Rudi Johnson
WR Terrell Owens
WR Roy Williams
WR/RB Fred Taylor (Kept for 7th round pick)
TE Vernon Davis
K Phil Dawson
DEF Jacksonville Jaguars

Bench

QB Philip Rivers
RB DeShaun Foster
WR Sidney Rice
RB Ladell Betts
RB Jerious Norwood
RB Kolby Smith
WR Justin Gage
WR Robert Meachem
TE Kevin Boss

12 team league. Kept players required a 2 round penalty. 11th pick of 12. A crapload of WR's were kept (Moss, Braylon, Holmes, Jennings, Bowe, Marshall, more) and only a few RB's and QB's.

1st (11) Portis
2nd (14) Owens


I like your starters but your bench is weak imo. You should look to find a rb who is going to get a good amount of carries to add to that bench because all your starters have had a lot of injury problems.

703SKINS202
08-10-2008, 03:42 PM
Not a bad team by any means...

8 team league

QB Philip Rivers
RB Ladainian Tomlinson
RB Ryan Grant
WR Braylon Edwards
WR Plaxico Burress
WR Santonio Holmes
TE Tony Gonzalez
K Rob Bironas
DEF Indy

BN WR Roddy White
BN RB Willis McGahee
BN RB Darren McFadden
BN QB Jake Delhomme
BN WR Vincent Jackson
BN TE Alge Crumpler


Solid team but then again it is a 8 team league.

703SKINS202
08-10-2008, 03:46 PM
My annual 12 team league I do with my friends. 110$ buy in.

QB-Romo
RB-Adrian Peterson
RB-Thomas Jones(lovin this pick even more now)
WR-TJ Houshmanzadeh
WR-Brandon Marshall(yes I know hes suspended but got him so late it was a steal)
WR- Calvin Johnson
TE-Jason Witten
K-Shayne Graham
D-Raiders(d is unimportant so I went for a potential sleeper)

RB-Julius Jones
RB-Chester Taylor
WR-Issac Bruce
WR-Derrick Mason
WR-Bobby Engram

OSUGiants17
08-10-2008, 04:36 PM
Not a bad team by any means...

8 team league

QB Philip Rivers
RB Ladainian Tomlinson
RB Ryan Grant
WR Braylon Edwards
WR Plaxico Burress
WR Santonio Holmes
TE Tony Gonzalez
K Rob Bironas
DEF Indy

BN WR Roddy White
BN RB Willis McGahee
BN RB Darren McFadden
BN QB Jake Delhomme
BN WR Vincent Jackson
BN TE Alge Crumpler

my team from the same league
Draft:
1. (4) Brian Westbrook
2. (13) Peyton Manning
3. (20) Andre Johnson
4. (29) Ronnie Brown
5. (36) Chad Johnson
6. (45) Ben Roethlisberger
7. (52) Dwayne Bowe
8. (61) New York
9. (68) Kevin Curtis
10. (77) Earnest Graham
11. (84) Heath Miller
12. (93) Josh Scobee
13. (100) Nate Burleson
14. (109) Baltimore
15. (116) Donald Lee

Depth Chart:
QB- Peyton
RB- Westbrook
RB- Brown
WR- Andre Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- Bowe
TE- Heath Miller
K- Scobee
D/ST- NYG

BN- Big Ben
BN- Graham
BN- Curtis
BN- Nate
BN- Lee
BN- Baltimore

djp
08-10-2008, 05:23 PM
I'm curious DJP . . . who could you have kept other than Fred Taylor?

1 sec.

Marques Colston (NO - WR) [2]
Ron Dayne (Hou - RB) [6]
Lee Evans (Buf - WR) [1]
Samkon Gado (Mia - RB)
Maurice Jones-Drew (Jac - RB) [unkeepable]
Jon Kitna (Det - QB)
Dominic Rhodes (Oak - RB)
Tony Romo (Dal - QB) [6]
Tony Scheffler (Den - TE)
Steve Smith (Car - WR) [unkeepable]
Darren Sproles (SD - RB)
Donte' Stallworth (Cle - WR) [4]
Aaron Stecker (NO - RB)
Fred Taylor (Jac - RB) [7]
Reggie Wayne (Ind - WR) [unkeepable]
Shaun Alexander (RB) [unkeepable]

The number next to them is what pick I would have to give up to keep them. No number means an 8th round pick is what is forfeited to keep the player.

Jughead10
08-10-2008, 05:33 PM
I'm in a 10 man keeper league. We keep three players with no penalty. I'm picking 7th this year and we don't snake the order. I'm obviously going to keep both Tom Brady and Adrian Peterson. However I'm torn between Calvin Johnson and Laurence Maroney. This is not a points per reception league. Common sense sides with Maroney but he frustrates me so much. Actually the way they use him frustrates me. I'm actually leaning towards Calvin Johnson. Any suggestions?

T-RICH49
08-10-2008, 10:17 PM
I picked 10th in a 16 team league

1st - LJ
2nd - Larry Fitzgerald
3rd - Carson Palmer
4th - Roddy White
5th - Fred Taylor
6th - Sidney Rice
7th - Green Bay
8th - Chester Taylor
9th - Robert Meachem
10th - Robbie Gould
11th - Chris Baker
12th - Trent Edwards
13th - Roydell Williams
14th - Oakland
15th - Kolby Smith

Scotty D
08-10-2008, 10:19 PM
I picked 10th in a 16 team league

Carson Palmer
Larry Johnson
Fred Taylor
Larry Fitzgerald
Roddy White
Sidney Rice
Chris Baker
Robbie Gould
Green Bay

bench

Trent Edwards
Chester Taylor
Kolby Smith(last pick of the draft for me)
Robert Meachem
Roydell Williams
Oakland

Its a lot easier to judge your team if you to put what round each player was drafted by their name.

T-RICH49
08-10-2008, 10:28 PM
ok fixed it

Jughead10
08-10-2008, 10:37 PM
Is that Chris Baker on the Jets? That wasn't a very good pick in my mind. He is on the outs there. They have Bubba Franks and first round pick Dustin Keller in the mix.

T-RICH49
08-10-2008, 10:39 PM
Is that Chris Baker on the Jets? That wasn't a very good pick in my mind. He is on the outs there. They have Bubba Franks and first round pick Dustin Keller in the mix.

the tight ends at that point to choose from were slim and none

Jughead10
08-10-2008, 10:41 PM
the tight ends at that point to choose from were slim and none

I have to think there was something better. Franks and Keller might end up being better options themselves.

T-RICH49
08-10-2008, 10:42 PM
I might check the waiver wire.

EDOT: dropped Baker for Keller

Jughead10
08-10-2008, 10:49 PM
I might check the waiver wire

Ask the Jets fans on this board as well. I know the Front Office there isn't too happy with Baker as he has been very vocal about not getting a contract. Then they bring in Franks (who happens to have a past with Favre now that Brett is there) and invest a first round pick on Keller, and the writing is on the wall to me. I wouldn't say his hold on the starting position is stable.

MetSox17
08-11-2008, 02:13 PM
Okay guys, last night i was at a $30 buy in, live fantasy draft. Needless to say, i was very happy with my picks. There was definitely some rookies in there, i'll post some of the laughers after my team. Input on my team will be greatly appreciated!

Picks are in order that they were picked (from position).

QB (1) : Eli Manning, Jay Cutler

RB (2) : Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Larry Johnson, Michael Turner, Matt Forte

WR (2) : Braylon Edwards, Wes Welker, Roddy White, Santonio Holmes, Bernard Berrian

RB/WR (1) : " "

TE (1) : Heath Miller

DEF (1) : Philadelphia Eagles, Pittsburgh Steelers

Notable funnies:
Four quarterbacks (Brady, Manning, Romo, Palmer) went in the first round in a 4pt Pass Td league.

Brian Westbrook fell to #7.

Ben Utecht, Alge Crumpler, Greg Olsen and Anthony Fasano went before Heath Miller.

Brady Quinn and Chad Pennington were drafted.

Bills2083
08-11-2008, 02:23 PM
QB Tony Romo (kept for a 6th round pick)
RB Clinton Portis
RB Rudi Johnson
WR Terrell Owens
WR Roy Williams
WR/RB Fred Taylor (Kept for 7th round pick)
TE Vernon Davis
K Phil Dawson
DEF Jacksonville Jaguars

Bench

QB Philip Rivers
RB DeShaun Foster
WR Sidney Rice
RB Ladell Betts
RB Jerious Norwood
RB Kolby Smith
WR Justin Gage
WR Robert Meachem
TE Kevin Boss

12 team league. Kept players required a 2 round penalty. 11th pick of 12. A crapload of WR's were kept (Moss, Braylon, Holmes, Jennings, Bowe, Marshall, more) and only a few RB's and QB's.

1st (11) Portis
2nd (14) Owens


You seem kind of weak at RB, but that's JMO. Rudi Johnson had a bad year last year, and I think he's on the downside of his career.

Bills2083
08-11-2008, 02:25 PM
Okay guys, last night i was at a $30 buy in, live fantasy draft. Needless to say, i was very happy with my picks. There was definitely some rookies in there, i'll post some of the laughers after my team. Input on my team will be greatly appreciated!

Picks are in order that they were picked (from position).

QB (1) : Eli Manning, Jay Cutler

RB (2) : Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch, Larry Johnson, Michael Turner, Matt Forte

WR (2) : Braylon Edwards, Wes Welker, Roddy White, Santonio Holmes, Bernard Berrian

RB/WR (1) : " "

TE (1) : Heath Miller

DEF (1) : Philadelphia Eagles, Pittsburgh Steelers

Notable funnies:
Four quarterbacks (Brady, Manning, Romo, Palmer) went in the first round in a 4pt Pass Td league.

Brian Westbrook fell to #7.

Ben Utecht, Alge Crumpler, Greg Olsen and Anthony Fasano went before Heath Miller.

Brady Quinn and Chad Pennington were drafted.


How in the world did you get Edwards, Peterson, Lynch, and Johnson? How many people are in your league?

MetSox17
08-11-2008, 02:32 PM
How in the world did you get Edwards, Peterson, Lynch, and Johnson? How many people are in your league?

Lol, i'm telling you, about 6 of these guys had no clue what they were doing. I had the second overall pick (Peterson). There was a run on QB's in the first round, then Westbrook, Addai, Gore and Steven Jackson went off the board. Then the guy with the 9th pick took McFadden on the way back of the second round lol. With the last pick in the second round i took Lynch, and then Edwards at the top of the third.

Then some guys started taking defenses, WR's, TE's (lol) and i jumped on LJ on the way back of the 4th round. Picked up Welker second pick in the 5th round.

Edit - It's a 10 person league.

Edit - First place is $225, so i'm liking my odds :D

Bills2083
08-11-2008, 02:34 PM
Barring injuries, you're pretty much guaranteed to win that league.
Nice job http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

MetSox17
08-11-2008, 02:40 PM
Barring injuries, you're pretty much guaranteed to win that league.
Nice job http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif

Thanks! :D

BTW, should i try and package Holmes/Turner or Forte and Cutler/Manning for one of the top QB's? Do you think i'll need one of them?

D-Unit
08-11-2008, 02:42 PM
Pick up Cory Ross NOW!

Bills2083
08-11-2008, 02:47 PM
MetSox, do you get points for completions?

UKfan
08-11-2008, 03:11 PM
Which def should I take? I currently have IND, but SEA are available on the waiver wire.

619
08-11-2008, 03:15 PM
Okay here's mine ...

12-team keeper league

QB - Ben Roethlisberger
RB - Maurice Jones-Drew
RB - Darren McFadden
WR - Roddy White
WR - Calvin Johnson
TE - Owen Daniels

DL - Dwight Freeney
DL - Ray Edwards
LB - Karlos Dansby
LB - EJ Henderson
DB - Nate Clements
DB - Antrel Rolle

K - Taylor Mehlhaff
P - Daniel Sepulveda
HC -Saints Coach (Sean Payton)

Bench:
QB Matt Ryan
RB Reggie Bush
RB Michael Bush
WR Ted Ginn
WR Robert Meachem
WR DeSean Jackson
TE Vernon Davis
DL Leonard Little
LB Chad Greenway
DB Darrelle Revis

djp
08-11-2008, 03:17 PM
You seem kind of weak at RB, but that's JMO. Rudi Johnson had a bad year last year, and I think he's on the downside of his career.

While I agree that my RB's are weak, I had the 11th pick out of 12 in a league where Grant, Lynch, AD, Michael Turner, Jamal Lewis, and Addai were kept.

The first round went :

1. Tomlinson
2. Brady
3. Westbrook
4. Steven Jackson
5. Frank Gore
6. Marion Barber
7. Peyton Manning
8. Reggie Wayne
9. Ronnie Brown
10. Willis McGahee
11. Clinton Portis
12. Larry Johnson

13. Laurence Maroney
14. Terrell Owens

then I don't remember the rest off the top of my head.

I was planning on taking Jacobs with the wrap pick (4th round), but the guy who kept an RB and took 2 others with his first 2 picks picked him before me.

MetSox17
08-11-2008, 03:19 PM
Okay here's mine ...

12-team keeper league

QB - Ben Roethlisberger
RB - Maurice Jones-Drew
RB - Darren McFadden
WR - Roddy White
WR - Calvin Johnson
TE - Owen Daniels

DL - Dwight Freeney
DL - Ray Edwards
LB - Karlos Dansby
LB - EJ Henderson
DB - Nate Clements
DB - Antrel Rolle

K - Taylor Mehlhaff
P - Daniel Sepulveda
HC -Saints Coach (Sean Payton)

Bench:
QB Matt Ryan
RB Reggie Bush
RB Michael Bush
WR Ted Ginn
WR Robert Meachem
WR DeSean Jackson
TE Vernon Davis
DL Leonard Little
LB Chad Greenway
DB Darrelle Revis

You better hope that MJD gets a ton of carries. And Sepulveda is out for the year.

Hines
08-11-2008, 03:27 PM
Better team?

Team A:

QB: Big Ben/ DA
RB: Jackson/Barber/Maroney
WR: AJ/Fitz/Holmes/Curtis/Cotchery
TE: Miller
DEF: Giants
K: Kaeding/Bironas
DL: Willis/Morrison/Farrior/ D. Harris/ Woodley/Bracket
DB: Kerry Rhodes/ A. Rolle/ Roman Harper


Team B:

QB: Favre/Bulger
RB: Westbrook/Parker/Turner
WR: Owens/Ocho/Holt/Walker/Berrian
TE: Cooley
DEF: Chicago
K: Rackers
DL: Howard/Witherspoon/Briggs/ Jason Taylor
DB: Bailey/ Chris Harris/ Samuel/ Sheppard/ Gabril Wilson


Team C:

QB: Brees/Rivers
RB: Tomlinson/Gore/McGahee
WR: Wayne/Burress/Roddy/ Chambers/Coles
TE: Shockey/Heap
DEF: San Diego
K: Vinatieri
DL: Paul P/Boley/EJ Henderson
DB: Reed/ Landry/Mathis/McGee/ Sammy Knight

619
08-11-2008, 03:27 PM
You better hope that MJD gets a ton of carries. And Sepulveda is out for the year.

Yeah, as you can see a lot of personal taste on my fantasy team as is usually the case with me until the season rolls around. This ******* sucks .. I really like Sepulveda even though he's only a damn punter. I'll probably pickup Skins punter Durant Brooks now.

UKfan
08-11-2008, 03:40 PM
Which def should I take? I currently have IND, but SEA are available on the waiver wire.

Anyone? Please

619
08-11-2008, 03:42 PM
UK, I'd rather have the Indy D.

Eaglez.Fan
08-11-2008, 03:44 PM
I'd take team A Hines.

djp
08-11-2008, 04:06 PM
Better team?

Team A:

QB: Big Ben/ DA
RB: Jackson/Barber/Maroney
WR: AJ/Fitz/Holmes/Curtis/Cotchery
TE: Miller
DEF: Giants
K: Kaeding/Bironas
DL: Willis/Morrison/Farrior/ D. Harris/ Woodley/Bracket
DB: Kerry Rhodes/ A. Rolle/ Roman Harper


Team B:

QB: Favre/Bulger
RB: Westbrook/Parker/Turner
WR: Owens/Ocho/Holt/Walker/Berrian
TE: Cooley
DEF: Chicago
K: Rackers
DL: Howard/Witherspoon/Briggs/ Jason Taylor
DB: Bailey/ Chris Harris/ Samuel/ Sheppard/ Gabril Wilson


Team C:

QB: Brees/Rivers
RB: Tomlinson/Gore/McGahee
WR: Wayne/Burress/Roddy/ Chambers/Coles
TE: Shockey/Heap
DEF: San Diego
K: Vinatieri
DL: Paul P/Boley/EJ Henderson
DB: Reed/ Landry/Mathis/McGee/ Sammy Knight

Team C is the best by a wide margin.

Bills2083
08-11-2008, 04:10 PM
Metsox, I'm not sure if you get points for completions in your league, but I'd try to get Drew Brees on your team. I think he's going to be one of the best fantasy QBs this year.

MetSox17
08-11-2008, 06:36 PM
Metsox, I'm not sure if you get points for completions in your league, but I'd try to get Drew Brees on your team. I think he's going to be one of the best fantasy QBs this year.

I just checked right now, and apparently there isn't points for completions. It might change though. I do have a lot of trade chips i can move around, so i'm not worried at all. If i feel i need a quarterback, i'm sure there'll be someone looking for a RB :D

bored of education
08-11-2008, 08:21 PM
10 team league 2 morons. (One not me)

1.1 LaDanian Tomlinson
2.10 Drew Brees
3.1 Braylon Edwards
4.10 Dwayne Bowe
5.1 Michael Turner
6.10 Chris Cooley
7.1 James Jones
8.10 Brodie Croyle
9.1 Kevin Boss
10.10 Robert Meachem
11.1 Jerious Norwood
12.10 Seahawks D
13.1 umm i forget what else i got :(

OSUGiants17
08-12-2008, 09:00 AM
my team from the same 8 person league as UKfan
Draft:
1. (4) Brian Westbrook
2. (13) Peyton Manning
3. (20) Andre Johnson
4. (29) Ronnie Brown
5. (36) Chad Johnson
6. (45) Ben Roethlisberger
7. (52) Dwayne Bowe
8. (61) New York
9. (68) Kevin Curtis
10. (77) Earnest Graham
11. (84) Heath Miller
12. (93) Josh Scobee
13. (100) Nate Burleson
14. (109) Baltimore
15. (116) Donald Lee

Depth Chart:
QB- Peyton
RB- Westbrook
RB- Brown
WR- Andre Johnson
WR- Chad Johnson
WR- Bowe
TE- Heath Miller
K- Scobee
D/ST- NYG

BN- Big Ben
BN- Graham
BN- Curtis
BN- Nate
BN- Boss
BN- Baltimore

bump, oh yea and I dropped Lee for Kevin Boss

The Great Jonathan Vilma
08-12-2008, 10:40 AM
Cotchery Vs Driver, who ya got? And by how much?

I'm looking to gauge a trade to acquire my boy Cotchery, and i don't want to offer to much. This has more to do with what people's perceptions are on Driver than anything else. I have mine, but am interested in others opinions.

'cuse-213
08-12-2008, 11:33 AM
Cotchery Vs Driver, who ya got? And by how much?

I'm looking to gauge a trade to acquire my boy Cotchery, and i don't want to offer to much. This has more to do with what people's perceptions are on Driver than anything else. I have mine, but am interested in others opinions.

I say Cotchery, because Cotchery got it done with Pennington as his QB, now he has Favre.

'cuse-213
08-12-2008, 11:34 AM
10 team league.

QB: Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Schaub.
RB: Addai, Ronnie Brown, Jonathan Stewart, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson.
WR: Anthony Gonzalez, Calvin Johnson, Jerricho Cotchery, Brandon Marshall, Amani Toomer.
TE: Antonio Gates, Dustin Keller.
D/ST: Jets
K: Neil Rackers

Alot of my team is question marks and my WRs are a little weak. I feel I could be the best team in the league or the worst.

Opinions?

MetSox17
08-12-2008, 01:13 PM
You might be in the toiletbowl this year. After Addai you really don't have much at RB, and you don't have any monster WR's either. Good luck, is all i could say.

Gay Ork Wang
08-12-2008, 01:29 PM
10 team league.

QB: Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Schaub.
RB: Addai, Ronnie Brown, Jonathan Stewart, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson.
WR: Anthony Gonzalez, Calvin Johnson, Jerricho Cotchery, Brandon Marshall, Amani Toomer.
TE: Antonio Gates, Dustin Keller.
D/ST: Jets
K: Neil Rackers

Alot of my team is question marks and my WRs are a little weak. I feel I could be the best team in the league or the worst.

Opinions?
Ur WRs all look really weak..

bsaza2358
08-12-2008, 01:39 PM
10 team league.

QB: Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Schaub.
RB: Addai, Ronnie Brown, Jonathan Stewart, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson.
WR: Anthony Gonzalez, Calvin Johnson, Jerricho Cotchery, Brandon Marshall, Amani Toomer.
TE: Antonio Gates, Dustin Keller.
D/ST: Jets
K: Neil Rackers

Alot of my team is question marks and my WRs are a little weak. I feel I could be the best team in the league or the worst.

Opinions?

I don't know how you drafted, but I'm not at all a fan of what you did here. Big Ben is a fine QB, and Addai is the man, but Gates is injured and maybe ineffective, your WR's are waaaaaaay too boom/bust, and I can't really say that you have an effective RB2. Not a fan at all.

'cuse-213
08-12-2008, 01:53 PM
Noone likes Brown? I hear hes recovering fine from his injury. He has a good OL, and before he got hurt last year he was looking like a top 5 back. And theres really noone behind him to take many reps from him.

MetSox17
08-12-2008, 02:38 PM
Ricky Williams??

The Great Jonathan Vilma
08-12-2008, 02:44 PM
Noone likes Brown? I hear hes recovering fine from his injury. He has a good OL, and before he got hurt last year he was looking like a top 5 back. And theres really noone behind him to take many reps from him.

Ricky Williams could, as he appears to be really motivated and is doing real well. Risky guy? Sure. But he's motivated and has shown a commitement in in the weight room and the field that makes him a proven option (even if it was a while back).

Ronnie was the man last year, but a knee injury can always linger, and the mental aspect may creep in as well. Expecting him to do what he did last year on this poor offense, and coming off a knee injury is expecting a lot.

Overall, very boom/bust team with to much risk for my liking. The goal is to have some boom/bust to possibly make your team great instead of good. Hoping on to many leaves it as unlikely.

Stewart is a rookie coming off injury. Brown is off injury. Marshall off injury/supension. Jets unknown chemistry. Keller a rookie. Calvin yet to show his top stuff. That's all i can remember. Although i expect some to come through, it may be to many risks. You have a chance, but who knows the outcome.

drowe
08-13-2008, 08:33 AM
Cotchery Vs Driver, who ya got? And by how much?

I'm looking to gauge a trade to acquire my boy Cotchery, and i don't want to offer to much. This has more to do with what people's perceptions are on Driver than anything else. I have mine, but am interested in others opinions.

it's close. i say, if you really like Cotchery, don't even hesitate to trade Driver for him.

Cotchery has less competition for touches than Driver does.

drowe
08-13-2008, 08:45 AM
10 team league.

QB: Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Schaub.
RB: Addai, Ronnie Brown, Jonathan Stewart, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson.
WR: Anthony Gonzalez, Calvin Johnson, Jerricho Cotchery, Brandon Marshall, Amani Toomer.
TE: Antonio Gates, Dustin Keller.
D/ST: Jets
K: Neil Rackers

Alot of my team is question marks and my WRs are a little weak. I feel I could be the best team in the league or the worst.

Opinions?

i would be happy with this team. i like Addai a lot. and i also, am high on Brown. i also like Stewart. i see him getting a 60/40 carries split with a much higher percentage near the goal line. so, between Brown and Stewart, you'll be set at RB2

WR is obviously your weakness. but, CJ and Cotchery have a lot of upside this year, and Marshall will be solid once he plays.

can't argue with the TE.

and Big Ben is a good QB to have.

The Great Jonathan Vilma
08-13-2008, 12:15 PM
it's close. i say, if you really like Cotchery, don't even hesitate to trade Driver for him.

Cotchery has less competition for touches than Driver does.

he didn't bite. I'm moreso trying to account for the perceived gap between them that it may take to get him. Thanks for input though.

scottyboy
08-15-2008, 12:08 PM
Here's my newest team in basically my only non-NFLDC league and it's fo' $$$ so...

QB: Matt Hasslebeck
RB: Addai
RB: MJD
RB/WR: Edge
WR: Boldin
WR: Andre Johnson
TE: Kevin Boss
D: Giants
K: Tynes

Bench:
WR Driver
WR Bowe
TE Fasano
RB Bradshaw
RB Rice
D Jets
RB Leonard

Will probably cut someone for another WR or backup QB soon, we'll see

djp
08-15-2008, 04:06 PM
Taking some gambles at WR there scottyboy...

Can AJ stay healthy?

Will Boldin's contract situation come into play? And it's always a gamble with Boldin when Fitz is out there with him.

Can Bowe repeat now that teams know he's really the only WR they have?

Driver with a new QB.... they won't be throwing as much...

Other than that, it looks pretty solid. You should definitely try to pick up a backup QB. Also, handcuff Addai with Rhodes and drop Fasano for a QB.

djp
08-15-2008, 04:11 PM
10 team league.

QB: Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Schaub.
RB: Addai, Ronnie Brown, Jonathan Stewart, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson.
WR: Anthony Gonzalez, Calvin Johnson, Jerricho Cotchery, Brandon Marshall, Amani Toomer.
TE: Antonio Gates, Dustin Keller.
D/ST: Jets
K: Neil Rackers

Alot of my team is question marks and my WRs are a little weak. I feel I could be the best team in the league or the worst.

Opinions?

This is one of those teams that looks bad when it's drafted, but then when it comes to playoff time, you are ahead of most everybody. It's a high-risk high-reward team, but let's say these things happen.

1) Ronnie Brown comes back and is the feature back in Miami
2) Jonathan Stewart claims the workload in Carolina
3) Calvin Johnson plays to his potential
4) Marvin Harrison gets hurt
5) Matt Schaub (and AJ) stay healthy for the whole year

All 5 of those things aren't farfetched at all. I don't normally draft on risk, I always let the draft come to me. But your strategy sounds similar to the guy who took Randy Moss way too early last year.

djp
08-15-2008, 04:13 PM
10 team league 2 morons. (One not me)

1.1 LaDanian Tomlinson
2.10 Drew Brees
3.1 Braylon Edwards
4.10 Dwayne Bowe
5.1 Michael Turner
6.10 Chris Cooley
7.1 James Jones
8.10 Brodie Croyle
9.1 Kevin Boss
10.10 Robert Meachem
11.1 Jerious Norwood
12.10 Seahawks D
13.1 umm i forget what else i got :(

Probably waited too long to get a 2nd RB, but if you have LT, he can usually make up the difference. Most likely a reach on Bowe, but you're a Chiefs fan, so that's understandable. Good value in Norwood to handcuff Turner. Guessing you are within the top 5 in your league.

D-Unit
08-15-2008, 04:19 PM
Breakout players at each position:

QB Matt Leinart
RB Pierre Thomas
WR Justin Gage
TE Kevin Boss
K Mike Nugent
DEF NOR Saints

scottyboy
08-15-2008, 04:32 PM
Taking some gambles at WR there scottyboy...

Can AJ stay healthy?

Will Boldin's contract situation come into play? And it's always a gamble with Boldin when Fitz is out there with him.

Can Bowe repeat now that teams know he's really the only WR they have?

Driver with a new QB.... they won't be throwing as much...

Other than that, it looks pretty solid. You should definitely try to pick up a backup QB. Also, handcuff Addai with Rhodes and drop Fasano for a QB.

true, but I've got some sleepers at WR's who are out there, and I may work on a trade for Holt, so we'll see. I think out of thise WR's at least 2 or 3 should be fine. Shouldn't have picked Fasano, should have just kept him out there and signed him week 4 on the Giants bye, so i'll cut him for a QB. There's quite a few out there. I'll probably drop Leonard for a WR or another RB if SJax gets to camp, we'll see though

bearfan
08-16-2008, 12:20 PM
Im in the 7th round, need a RB, should I take Rudi Johnson, Julius Jones or Kevin Smith

bearfan
08-16-2008, 01:09 PM
Ok, so here is how my draft went: 12 team league, picked 5th overall.
1) Randy Moss
2) Braylon Edwards
3) Drew Brees
4) Willis McGahee
5) Jamal Lewis
6) Roddy White
7) Kevin Smith
8) Minny D
9) Chester Taylor
10) Rashard Mendenhall
11) Justin Gage
12) Derrick Mason
13) Zach Miller
14) Brandon Jackson
15) Seattle Def
16) Trent Edwards
17) Ryan Longwell

So my starting line up looks like:
QB: Drew Brees
RB: Willis McGahee
RB: Jamal Lewis
WR: Randy Moss
WR: Braylon Edwards
WR: Roddy White
WR/RB: Kevin Smith
TE: Zach Miller
DEF: Minny
K: Longwell

Eaglez.Fan
08-16-2008, 01:13 PM
Your WRs will dominate. I really like your team. You have a top 3-4 QB, probably the best WR trio in your league and pretty decent RBs. I think you reached on Kevin Smith though.

edit- is your league PPR or not?

bearfan
08-16-2008, 01:19 PM
no, its not PPR, but this year I am going with a different approach: WRs and QB early. Previous years I have gone RB, RB, RB, Wr, Wr similar to that. But why not take a WR that is guaranteed 1200+ yards, and 10+ TDs? Thats as good as any RB.

And I may have reached on Kevin Smith, I really wanted Julius Jones, but I wasnt sold on him at the same time. With the Lions implementing more of a ground game, I think Smith could play about the level where I drafted him.

And my backups RBs, Mendenhal, and Taylor..I figure if Parker doesnt come back full strength, or gets hurt again it could work out. And for Taylor, no one knows how well AD will hold up.

BrownsTown
08-16-2008, 01:21 PM
Jamal and McGahee going that late is pretty ridiculous.

Gay Ork Wang
08-16-2008, 01:28 PM
Roddy White in the 6th is also pretty nice

bearfan
08-16-2008, 01:38 PM
Haha yeah that was nice, but there were only a few rediculous picks up to that point, and one was by a auto pick. My favorite was Mason Crosby in the 4th, but besides that pick, the kid has a pretty nice team.

And White has his questions, but I think Ryan is a better QB than what they had last year, and now that they have a nice 1-2 punch at RB, it will loosen him up a bit I hope.

'cuse-213
08-16-2008, 10:50 PM
no, its not PPR, but this year I am going with a different approach: WRs and QB early. Previous years I have gone RB, RB, RB, Wr, Wr similar to that. But why not take a WR that is guaranteed 1200+ yards, and 10+ TDs? Thats as good as any RB.

I like your team alot. Im gonna follow this route in my draft.

Sniper
08-16-2008, 10:56 PM
What do you guys think of this team?

QB- Tom Brady/Matt Schaub
RB- Reggie Bush/Brandon Jaconbs/Chris Henry/Kevin Smith/Warrick Dunn
WR- Anquan Boldin/Roy Williams/Roddy White/Jabar Gaffney
TE- Vernon Davis/Desmond Clark
K- Rob Bironas
DST- Chargers/Giants

I'm likely going to drop the Giants D

I got Roddy White in the ninth round!

BrownsTown
08-16-2008, 10:57 PM
Ewwwwwwww at your RBs.

Sniper
08-16-2008, 11:01 PM
Ewwwwwwww at your RBs.

I know. I have super high hopes for Reggie.

bearfan
08-17-2008, 12:01 AM
Yeah, my advice for this year: Teams are opting to pass more, go for a Top wideout as early as round one. They pretty much are guaranteed 1200+ yards recieving and 10+ TDs. Thats as good as a tier 2 RB that isnt guaranteed to get that. What I found out in my 2 drafts to date this year is that you can still get 1000+ rushers in rounds 4-6.

For example, in my NFL.com league rounds 4 and 5 looked as so
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f83/bearfan54/Fantasy1.png

This was during the middle of the summer, probably right before training camps, but noteable RBs w. 1000+ yards (or close): Maurice Jones Drew, Jamal Lewis, Willie Parker, Edgerin James.

This is my draft today with some friends:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f83/bearfan54/fantasy2.png

Noteable 1000+ rushers: Willis McGahee, Jamal Lewis, Fred Taylor, Thomas Jones, Edgerin James.

So there are running backs to be had in the middle rounds that if you go with a QB, WR, WR like I did in my draft, you still wont be that bad off.

Also, I dont know how much it is needed, but if some people wanted me to, I would do a top 15 for QB, WR, and RB with analysis.

TimD
08-17-2008, 09:43 AM
10 Man League (Legit $ League)
#2 Pick.

QB: Brett Favre NYJ
RB: Adrian Peterson MIN
RB: Jamal Lewis CLE
WR: Reggie Wayne IND
WR: Larry Fitzgerald ARZ
TE: Tony Scheffler DEN
RB/WR: Matt Forte CHI
D/ST: Jacksonville
K: Mike Nugent (subject to change)

Bench:
Mark Bulger QB STL
Jonathon Stewart RB CAR
Chris Brown RB HOU
Anthony Gonzalez WR IND
Bryant Johnson WR SF
Owen Daniels TE HOU
Seattle D

Obviously my biggest question mark is QB, and my biggest hole is TE. Currently trying to acquire a new TE and David Garrard for security/depth.

Gay Ork Wang
08-17-2008, 09:46 AM
I like ur TEs actually ur QB is not all to good, might try to change that

BrownsTown
08-17-2008, 02:56 PM
12 team league with my family.

QB: Jay Cutler/Matt Schaub, gonna play the matchups
WR/RB: Steven Jackson
WR/RB: Frank Gore
WR: Steve Smith
WR: Roy Williams
TE: Heath Miller
DEF: NYG
K: Rob Bironas

Bench:
RB Michael Turner
WR Bernard Berrian
WR Robert Meachem
RB Kenny Watson
RB Jerious Norwood

keylime_5
08-17-2008, 05:34 PM
here's mine (10 man league):

QB-Tony Romo, Jason Campbell
RB-Frank Gore, Darren McFadden, Ronnie Brown, Deangelo Williams, Chris Johnson
WR-Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Joey Galloway, Roy Williams, Desean Jackson
TE-Chris Cooley
K-Rob Bironas
DST-Seattle

full of upside and a couple boom or busts.

'cuse-213
08-17-2008, 05:50 PM
Who would you rather have, Matt Forte or Tim Hightower, and why?

BrownsTown
08-17-2008, 05:51 PM
Who would you rather have, Matt Forte or Tim Hightower, and why?

Forte because he's starting. Easy decision.

Gay Ork Wang
08-17-2008, 05:54 PM
Forte cause he is the shiznit

jballa838
08-17-2008, 05:55 PM
12 man league.
Did this Draft for my brother:
QB: Drew Brees
WR: Larry Fitzgerald
WR: Roy Williams
WR: Anthony Gonzales
RB: Brian Westbrook
RB: Matt Forte
TE: Kellen Winslow
WR/RB: Thomas Jones
K: Josh Scobee
D: Tennessee

B: DeAngelo Williams
B: Jake Delhomme
B: Philip Rivers
B: Sidney Rice
B: DeSean Jackson
B: Dustin Keller

Im_a_Romosexual
08-17-2008, 06:27 PM
10 team, 2 QB, pick #8

QB Peyton Manning
QB Jay Cutler
HB Marion Barber
HB Thomas Jones
WR Torry Holt
WR Chris Chambers
WR Santonio Holmes
WR/RB Anthony Gonzalez
TE Kellen Winslow II
K Rob Bironas
D/St Dallas

BN Jeff Garcia
BN Jerious Norwood
BN Ronald Curry
BN Chris Johnson
BN Donald Lee
BN Sam Hurd

'cuse-213
08-17-2008, 07:30 PM
I have a feeling Hightower is gonna do great. Hell get almost all of the goaline touches and short yard situations.

But ill keep Forte for now.

bearfan
08-17-2008, 11:29 PM
10 team, 2 QB, pick #8

QB Peyton Manning
QB Jay Cutler
HB Marion Barber
HB Thomas Jones
WR Torry Holt
WR Chris Chambers
WR Santonio Holmes
WR/RB Anthony Gonzalez
TE Kellen Winslow II
K Rob Bironas
D/St Dallas

BN Jeff Garcia
BN Jerious Norwood
BN Ronald Curry
BN Chris Johnson
BN Donald Lee
BN Sam Hurd

Im not so hot on your team. In a 10 team league, I think you probably could have gotten better players. Good QBs with potential to be great. An unproven #1 RB, and a RB that dissapointed last year (but I think will be better). I like Torry Holt, but at the same time I think age, and QB play will affect him. Holmes and Chambers are on run 1st teams, and while Big Ben had 32 TDs last year, he only had 3200yards. Unless Holmes becomes the #1 over Ward, where he is getting most the looks, I wouldnt expect over 1000 yards. I like Winslow and down. To much analysis fofr this thread I think, but whats a forum for if you cant express your opinion? lol

Gay Ork Wang
08-18-2008, 01:28 AM
I thought Holmes is getting most of the looks

pierce2walker
08-18-2008, 02:25 AM
Just drafted today in a 10 person league with the #4 pick (pretty competitive league for money)

QB: Hasselbeck, E. Manning
RB: S. Jackson, M. Turner, T. Jones, M. Forte, C. Johnson
WR: R. Wayne, TJ Housh, R. White, N. Burleson, A. Gonzalez
TE: Witten, LJ Smith
K: Kaeding
Def: Tennessee


Opinions?

LonghornsLegend
08-18-2008, 09:07 AM
Im not so hot on your team. In a 10 team league, I think you probably could have gotten better players. Good QBs with potential to be great. An unproven #1 RB, and a RB that dissapointed last year (but I think will be better). I like Torry Holt, but at the same time I think age, and QB play will affect him. Holmes and Chambers are on run 1st teams, and while Big Ben had 32 TDs last year, he only had 3200yards. Unless Holmes becomes the #1 over Ward, where he is getting most the looks, I wouldnt expect over 1000 yards. I like Winslow and down. To much analysis fofr this thread I think, but whats a forum for if you cant express your opinion? lol


I disagree, in a two QB league that is a very strong team, he has two QB's to build a strong team around and thats what you want to start...Barber is far from being an unproven #1 so I don't even know where you got that from, his numbers were top 10 for a RB last year in fantasy, so being a starter and getting more carries=more production, Barber is a top 7 pick in fantasy.


Holt has been the model of consistency, look at his numbers last year and tell me you have any reason to believe they get worse, he's not old for a WR, and I'll worry when he produces less then 80/1100/6 because he's at LEAST good for that...Holmes and Chambers being on run 1st teams means absolutely nothing, Chambers is a 1000 yd WR, Holmes is going to be a WR1 this year or next, but Pitt runs 5 WR spreads, calling them a run first team is silly, Heinz Ward is the last thing you need to worry about if you have Holmes, Ward is going to take a backseat to him just as he did last year(in Holmes 2nd year)...Ward can't stretch the field like Holmes and isn't the big play threat.


How can you not expect 1000 yds from Holmes when he almost hit that mark last year in 12 games? He's in his crucial 3rd year for a WR, he will be closer to 1200 this year without a problem.

bsaza2358
08-18-2008, 09:12 AM
Just drafted today in a 10 person league with the #4 pick (pretty competitive league for money)

QB: Hasselbeck, E. Manning
RB: S. Jackson, M. Turner, T. Jones, M. Forte, C. Johnson
WR: R. Wayne, TJ Housh, R. White, N. Burleson, A. Gonzalez
TE: Witten, LJ Smith
K: Kaeding
Def: Tennessee


Opinions?

Pretty good overall. The QB situation is a little weaker, but you can always upgrade if you have to. You don't need 2 TE's, so I'd drop 1 and grab another skill player.

scottyboy
08-18-2008, 10:53 AM
Pretty good overall. The QB situation is a little weaker, but you can always upgrade if you have to. You don't need 2 TE's, so I'd drop 1 and grab another skill player.

agreed, but I like his QB situation. lets you mix and match with 2 good QB's. Using Eli against like STL and Cincy early and Hasslebeck against STL twice a year and SF.

You should probably cut LJ Smith, sign a guy when your other TE has a bye. I like having 2 D's to mix and match, but that or another skill guys works too

bearfan
08-18-2008, 02:42 PM
I disagree, in a two QB league that is a very strong team, he has two QB's to build a strong team around and thats what you want to start...Barber is far from being an unproven #1 so I don't even know where you got that from, his numbers were top 10 for a RB last year in fantasy, so being a starter and getting more carries=more production, Barber is a top 7 pick in fantasy.


Holt has been the model of consistency, look at his numbers last year and tell me you have any reason to believe they get worse, he's not old for a WR, and I'll worry when he produces less then 80/1100/6 because he's at LEAST good for that...Holmes and Chambers being on run 1st teams means absolutely nothing, Chambers is a 1000 yd WR, Holmes is going to be a WR1 this year or next, but Pitt runs 5 WR spreads, calling them a run first team is silly, Heinz Ward is the last thing you need to worry about if you have Holmes, Ward is going to take a backseat to him just as he did last year(in Holmes 2nd year)...Ward can't stretch the field like Holmes and isn't the big play threat.


How can you not expect 1000 yds from Holmes when he almost hit that mark last year in 12 games? He's in his crucial 3rd year for a WR, he will be closer to 1200 this year without a problem.

Like I said, its opinion. And I said that I like his QBs ;)
But on Barber, I like him dont get me wrong, and he will probably have the same type of roll as he did last year with the drafting of Felix Jones. But I wouldnt expect more than 1100 yards this year with similar TD production. I meant unproven #1. So I guess top 7 I will give you that ;).

Now for Holt, for me its one of those players that I like, but would be scared to draft. I know he is consistant, but his QB play doesnt sit to well with me.

Chambers has produced one 1000 yard season in his career. He has been close a few other times, but in the Chargers offense I see him as the 3rd option behind Gates, and LT. Vincent Jackson I think will also steal some stats from Chambers, being 6'5 and as fast as he is.

Holmes, I hadnt looked at the stats. I still think he will battle for some stats, and dont think he will average 18ypc, but I now view him as I do Roddy White.

Agree to disagree, but i think us seeing eye to eye on 2/4 is good ;)

Hines
08-18-2008, 02:54 PM
I have Andre Johnson, and I was recently proposed Johnson for Colston. Would you do it?

Gay Ork Wang
08-18-2008, 03:35 PM
I have Andre Johnson, and I was recently proposed Johnson for Colston. Would you do it?
Try to get something out of it

bsaza2358
08-18-2008, 03:39 PM
There is no reason to make that trade. You need to try to upgrade stuff.

Hines
08-18-2008, 03:41 PM
There is no reason to make that trade. You need to try to upgrade stuff.

So you think it would be a bad deal for me if I do it?

bsaza2358
08-18-2008, 03:44 PM
It is almost equal. I happen to like Johnson better. I don't see a need to make the trade when it's a move of almost equal players.

Geo
08-18-2008, 03:50 PM
AJ is primed to have a monster season imo, but he needs to stay healthy to do that.

If you want the surer thing, of the two that's probably Colston. Upside, I'd give it to AJ. I don't think the acquisition of Shockey will cut into Colston's numbers.

bsaza2358
08-18-2008, 03:52 PM
The whole thing is that it's almost pointless to make that trade. It's like trading Carson Palmer for Drew Brees. Both are great QB's for fantasy, and both can put up monster #'s. When you make a trade, you're trying to improve your team's weaknesses. Otherwise, why make the deal?

RonnieRun23
08-18-2008, 04:03 PM
1 qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, 1 te, 1 k, 1 DST
12 man league

QB Eli Manning/Jay Cutler
RB Joseph Addai/Willis McGahee/Thomas Jones/Ahman Green (looking to drop)
WR Marques Colston/Anquan Boldin/Donald Driver/Derrick Mason
TE Dallas Clark/Kevin Boss (trying to trade Boss)
K Nate Kaeding
DST Patriots

Thoughts? Should I make any moves?

bsaza2358
08-18-2008, 04:08 PM
Get rid of your backup TE, drop Green, grab another RB if you can. Otherwise, really not bad at all.

Hines
08-18-2008, 04:26 PM
Ricky Williams or Thomas Jones?

Geo
08-18-2008, 04:29 PM
Definitely Thomas Jones of the two imo, he's the established starter for the Jets. Ricky is much more of a wild card.

Jughead10
08-18-2008, 04:35 PM
Picked 7th in a 10 man keeper league. We keep three players from the year before and do not snake the draft. Here is my likely lineup for week 1:

QB: Tom Brady (keeper)
RB: Adrian Peterson (keeper)
RB: Fred Taylor (round 3)
WR: Calvin Johnson (keeper)
WR: Torry Holt (round 1)
WR: Lee Evans (round 2)
TE: Ben Waton (round 7)
WR/TE: Donald Driver (round 5)
K: Adam Vinatieri (round 11)
DEF: Chicago (round 9)

Bench: Jonathan Stewart (round 4)
Bench: Rashard Mendenhall (round 6)
Bench: Chester Taylor (round 8)
Bench: Tatum Bell (round 13)
Bench: Marc Bulger (round 12)
Bench: Vincent Jackson (round 10)

djp
08-18-2008, 06:33 PM
Yuck, Torry Holt in the 1st. Had to have been better WRs on the board. AJ? Colston? Fitz?

scottyboy
08-18-2008, 06:39 PM
Yuck, Torry Holt in the 1st. Had to have been better WRs on the board. AJ? Colston? Fitz?

i'm willing to bet they were all kept... and with a team of Brady and AD, he couldn't have been picking all too high...

edit: he picked 7th.

still I LOVE Holt, especially in fantasy. He's so damn consistant. Puts up good numbers year in and year out. Very, very reliable. I've had him in my major leagues the past 3 years or so, and he hasn't failed me.

Jughead10
08-18-2008, 06:51 PM
Yuck, Torry Holt in the 1st. Had to have been better WRs on the board. AJ? Colston? Fitz?

I could have had Andre Johnson. Passed on him. He was picked two after me. I'm not a huge fan of his. Plays in a tough division on a mediocre team. Always seems to have a nagging injury slightly holding him back as well. Both Colston and Fitz were kept.

LonghornsLegend
08-18-2008, 07:03 PM
I have Andre Johnson, and I was recently proposed Johnson for Colston. Would you do it?


If he's high on AJ try to get a throw in, or mix and match another player on both ends that gives you a slight upgrade to do it, if not, YES I would take that deal...Colston offers you the same production, with a better injury history...I don't trust AJ to play 16 games after last year, and getting his knee scoped again, Colston is alot more healthy so I would take that easily.



Like I said, its opinion. And I said that I like his QBs ;)
But on Barber, I like him dont get me wrong, and he will probably have the same type of roll as he did last year with the drafting of Felix Jones. But I wouldnt expect more than 1100 yards this year with similar TD production. I meant unproven #1. So I guess top 7 I will give you that ;).

Now for Holt, for me its one of those players that I like, but would be scared to draft. I know he is consistant, but his QB play doesnt sit to well with me.

Chambers has produced one 1000 yard season in his career. He has been close a few other times, but in the Chargers offense I see him as the 3rd option behind Gates, and LT. Vincent Jackson I think will also steal some stats from Chambers, being 6'5 and as fast as he is.

Holmes, I hadnt looked at the stats. I still think he will battle for some stats, and dont think he will average 18ypc, but I now view him as I do Roddy White.

Agree to disagree, but i think us seeing eye to eye on 2/4 is good ;)



I understand it was an opinion, thats why I lended mine so he could hear both sides, no biggie.

Breaker
08-18-2008, 08:01 PM
Trade Question: Someone offer Bills DST for my Colts DST, is this a good trade? Bills ST is top 5 and their defense is improving, while Colts ST doesn't have much impact and their D is have some injuries to key players.

What should I do?

Also who would you rather have, Andre Johnson or Brandon Marshall?

Alllso, Matt Forte or DeAngelo Williams?

Thanks in advance.

BrownsTown
08-18-2008, 08:51 PM
Keep the Bills.

Andre Johnson, Marshall's suspended for 3 games

Matt Forte, he's starting. Williams isn't getting the goalline carries.

Geo
08-18-2008, 09:03 PM
Colts defense is going to get more sacks this year, that's all I will say.

CashmoneyDrew
08-20-2008, 12:38 AM
Looky Looky at my team....

QB
Eli Manning
Matt Schaub
Jeff Garcia

HB
Clinton Portis
Marion Barber
Justin Fargas
Matt Forte

WR
Andre Johnson
Marques Colston
Reggie Brown
Calvin Johnson

TE
Kellen Winslow
Vernon Davis

K
Neil Rackers

DEF/ST
Seattle
Chicago

Hines
08-20-2008, 12:43 AM
I just traded Lawrence Maroney, Giants D, and Kirk Morrison for Clinton Portis and Pittsburgh D.

My current running backs are: Steven Jackson, Marion Barber, Clinton Portis, Thomas Jones. I have 2 RBs and 1 W/R.

KCJ58
08-21-2008, 12:45 AM
12 man league, 1 point for every 10 yards KR/PR

QB - Donovan McNabb
RB - LT
RB - Joseph Addai
WR - Marques Colston
WR - Ted Ginn Jr.
OP - Ryan Grant
DL - DeMarcus Ware
LB - David Harris
DB - Terrence McGee
K - Phil Dawson
D/ST - New York Giants

Bench:
QB - Marc Bulger
RB - Fred Taylor
RB - Matt Forte
WR - Anthony Gonzalez
WR - DeSean Jackson
TE - Dustin Keller
DB - Charles Woodson

CashmoneyDrew
08-21-2008, 12:55 AM
12 man league, 1 point for every 10 yards KR/PR

QB - Donovan McNabb
RB - LT
RB - Joseph Addai
WR - Marques Colston
WR - Ted Ginn Jr.
OP - Ryan Grant
DL - DeMarcus Ware
LB - David Harris
DB - Terrence McGee
K - Phil Dawson
D/ST - New York Giants

Bench:
QB - Marc Bulger
RB - Fred Taylor
RB - Matt Forte
WR - Anthony Gonzalez
WR - DeSean Jackson
TE - Dustin Keller
DB - Charles Woodson

How in the world did you get LT and Joseph Addai in a 12 man league?

KCJ58
08-21-2008, 01:51 AM
How in the world did you get LT and Joseph Addai in a 12 man league?

Traded a guy who "really" wanted Favre

Gay Ork Wang
08-21-2008, 07:32 AM
wow that was a bad trade for that guy haha

LonghornsLegend
08-21-2008, 08:24 AM
Trade Question: Someone offer Bills DST for my Colts DST, is this a good trade? Bills ST is top 5 and their defense is improving, while Colts ST doesn't have much impact and their D is have some injuries to key players.

What should I do?

Also who would you rather have, Andre Johnson or Brandon Marshall?

Alllso, Matt Forte or DeAngelo Williams?

Thanks in advance.

If its a league that awards points for receptions I want Marshall...He may miss 2 games but AJ is a huge talent that you have to worry about...If I did have AJ I would shop him for Colston, Fitz, someone in that talent level who doesn't seem to get hurt quite so much.


And Deangelo Williams over Forte easily....The defense question is a wash, they will be close enough you won't know the difference honestly, I don't do defense swaps 1 for 1, too hard to predict injuries and SOS, just roll with who you have or package AJ and Bills D for Fitz and Chargers D, something you know your getting an upgrade at D for sure.

CashmoneyDrew
08-21-2008, 12:41 PM
Traded a guy who "really" wanted Favre

I'm surprised the rest of your league let that trade go through.

Go_Eagles77
08-21-2008, 01:44 PM
I picked 11th in a 12 team league

Starters:
QB - Drew Brees
HB - Larry Johnson
HB - Clinton Portis
WR - Plaxico Burress
WR - Dwayne Bowe
WR - Bernard Berrian
TE - Dallas Clark
DST - Pittsburgh
K - Rob Bironas

Bench:
QB - Jake Delhomme
RB - Lendale White
RB - Deangelo Williams
WR - DeSean Jackson
TE - LJ Smith
DST - Carolina

KCJ58
08-21-2008, 03:04 PM
I'm surprised the rest of your league let that trade go through.

I traded Favre and Braylon Edwards for Addai

djp
08-21-2008, 10:09 PM
4th in a 10th team league. Point per reception

QB Tony Romo
RB Brian Westbrook
RB Larry Johnson
WR Roy Williams
WR Brandon Marshall
WR Laveraneous Coles
TE Chris Cooley
K Phil Dawson
DEF Pittsburgh Steelers

BN LenDale White (RB)
BN Jonathan Stewart (RB)
BN Felix Jones (RB)
BN Philip Rivers (QB)
BN DeSean Jackson (WR)
BN James Hardy (WR)

My WR depth sucks, but the rest of my team is pretty god damn good I think.

KCJ58
08-21-2008, 10:26 PM
4th in a 10th team league. Point per reception

QB Tony Romo
RB Brian Westbrook
RB Larry Johnson
WR Roy Williams
WR Brandon Marshall
WR Laveraneous Coles
TE Chris Cooley
K Phil Dawson
DEF Pittsburgh Steelers

BN LenDale White (RB)
BN Jonathan Stewart (RB)
BN Felix Jones (RB)
BN Philip Rivers (QB)
BN DeSean Jackson (WR)
BN James Hardy (WR)

My WR depth sucks, but the rest of my team is pretty god damn good I think.

yea it's gonna suck not having Marshall the 1st couple of games

fenikz
08-22-2008, 02:40 PM
just a general espn league

how did i do?

QB Matt Schaub
RB Ladainian Tomlinson
RB Ryan Grant
RB/WR Jamal Lewis
WR Torry Holt
WR Greg Jennings(Smith after week 2)
TE Owen Daniels
D/ST Green Bay
K Brandon Coutu

B LenDale White RB
B Rashard Mendenall RB
B Jerious Norwood RB
B Steve Smith WR
B Marvin Harrison WR
B Sidney Rice WR
B Jake Delhomme QB

Geo
08-22-2008, 02:52 PM
Great team, except both your QBs need to stay healthy and you picked a rookie kicker.

KCJ58
08-22-2008, 02:54 PM
just a general espn league

how did i do?

QB Matt Schaub
RB Ladainian Tomlinson
RB Ryan Grant
RB/WR Jamal Lewis
WR Torry Holt
WR Greg Jennings(Smith after week 2)
TE Owen Daniels
D/ST Green Bay
K Brandon Coutu

B LenDale White RB
B Rashard Mendenall RB
B Jerious Norwood RB
B Steve Smith WR
B Marvin Harrison WR
B Sidney Rice WR
B Jake Delhomme QB

where's Hightower???

fenikz
08-22-2008, 03:20 PM
Great team, except both your QBs need to stay healthy and you picked a rookie kicker.

The QBs have the same chance of being hurt as any other QB in the league, not like either has a huge list of injuries to their name.

as for Coutu, Seattle is always one of the top FG kicking teams and it was the last pick of the draft so i dont think it matters

where's Hightower???
on the waiver wire, but he is most certainly a guy i will be watching

WMD
08-24-2008, 11:07 PM
Picked 9th in a 12 Team League right here on NFLDC! Keeper league with a 1 round penalty for keepers.

QB- Ben Roethlisberger (3)
RB- Maurice Jones-Drew (2)
RB- Jonathan Stewart (4)
WR- Randy Moss (1)
WR- Lee Evans (6)
TE- Jeremy Shockey (7)
WR/RB- Julius Jones (5)
WR/RB- Leon Washington (8)
K- Stephen Gostkowski (16)
DEF- San Diego Chargers (9)

BN RB- Ray Rice (10)
BN RB- TJ Duckett (15)
BN WR- DJ Hackett (11)
BN WR- Robert Meachem (13)
BN TE- Ben Watson (12)
BN QB- Jake Delhomme (14)

scottyboy
08-25-2008, 07:34 AM
RAY RICE

WMD=win

even though he's a big doo doo head jerk

Gay Ork Wang
08-25-2008, 07:39 AM
Picked 9th in a 12 Team League right here on NFLDC! Keeper league with a 1 round penalty for keepers.

QB- Ben Roethlisberger (3)
RB- Maurice Jones-Drew (2)
RB- Jonathan Stewart (4)
WR- Randy Moss (1)
WR- Lee Evans (6)
TE- Jeremy Shockey (7)
WR/RB- Julius Jones (5)
WR/RB- Leon Washington (8)
K- Stephen Gostkowski (16)
DEF- San Diego Chargers (9)

BN RB- Ray Rice (10)
BN RB- TJ Duckett (15)
BN WR- DJ Hackett (11)
BN WR- Robert Meachem (13)
BN TE- Ben Watson (12)
BN QB- Jake Delhomme (14)
Ur Rbs are solid and ur QBs are good but ur WR especially the Depth is not really appealing and im not a big fan of the Chargers D

my team, same league:

QB: David Garrard, Jacksonville Jaguars (8)
RB: LT, San Diego Chargers (1)
RB: Reggie Bush, New Orleans Saints (2)
WR: Braylon Edwards, Cleveland Browns (3)
WR: Tory Holt, St. Louis Rams (4)
W/R: Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons (5)
W/R: Anthony Gonzalez, Indianapolis Colts (9)
TE: Todd Heap, Baltimore Ravens (10)
K: Robbie "Good as" Gould (14)
DEF:

BN: Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Pittsburgh Steelers (7)
BN: Deuce McAllister, RB, New Orleans Saints (6)
BN: Vincent Jackson, WR, San Diego Chargers (11)
BN: Fred Jackson, RB, Buffalo Bills (12)
BN: Jacob Hester, RB, San Diego Chargers (13)
BN: Vince Young, QB, Tennesee Titans (15)

Its a point per reception league

Caddy
08-25-2008, 07:43 AM
Drafted #2 Overall in a 16 team league. Starts 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 K, 1 Def, 4 IDPs.

I'm pretty concerned with my depth at RB but everything else looks ok at the moment. What does everyone think?

QB: David Garrard
QB: Jeff Garcia
RB: Ladainian Tomlinson
RB: Rashard Mendenhall
RB: Chris Johnson
RB: Tim Hightower
WR: Steve Smith
WR: Roy Williams
WR: Joey Galloway
WR: Donte Stallworth
WR: Reggie Brown
TE: Dallas Clark
K: Taylor Mehlhaff
Def: None yet
D: Antonio Cromartie
D: Jon Beason
D: Will Witherspoon
D: Thomas Howard

drowe
08-25-2008, 08:50 AM
Drafted #2 Overall in a 16 team league. Starts 1 QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 K, 1 Def, 4 IDPs.

I'm pretty concerned with my depth at RB but everything else looks ok at the moment. What does everyone think?

QB: David Garrard
QB: Jeff Garcia
RB: Ladainian Tomlinson
RB: Rashard Mendenhall
RB: Chris Johnson
RB: Tim Hightower
WR: Steve Smith
WR: Roy Williams
WR: Joey Galloway
WR: Donte Stallworth
WR: Reggie Brown
TE: Dallas Clark
K: Taylor Mehlhaff
Def: None yet
D: Antonio Cromartie
D: Jon Beason
D: Will Witherspoon
D: Thomas Howard

not bad for a 16 team league. some good WR value picks. between the 5 of 'em, at least 2 should pan out very well. good upside RB picks. can't really expect much out of your QBs though. that's gonna cause you problems all year.

drowe
08-25-2008, 08:54 AM
allright. 14 team leage. start a QB, 2 RB, 2WR, 1 TE, one flex (WR/RB/TE), 1 K, 1 D.

QB
Ben Roethlisberger
JaMarcus Russell

RB
Adrian Peterson
Johathan Stewart
Rashard Mendenhall
Chester Taylor

WR
Andre Johnson
TJ Houshmanzadah
Kevin Curtis
Jabar Gaffney
Steve Smith (NY)

TE
Tony Schefler
John Carlson

K
Lawrence Tynes
Shaun Suisham

DEF
Seattle
Cleveland

there were roster specifications that said we had to have a specific # of each position.

i picked 3rd. homey that picked 2nd has a man crush on Brady.

Caddy
08-25-2008, 08:55 AM
not bad for a 16 team league. some good WR value picks. between the 5 of 'em, at least 2 should pan out very well. good upside RB picks. can't really expect much out of your QBs though. that's gonna cause you problems all year.

QB's were hot in my league. Brady went #1 overall and Big Ben, Palmer, Brees, Manning and Romo all went before it got back to my 2nd pick. Didn't really have much of a choice to be honest.

Bills2083
08-25-2008, 09:12 AM
Drowe, I think you need to somehow upgrade the RB position. Maybe move a WR for one?
Also, are there any other TEs available? I thought I heard somewhere that Carlson is the 3rd TE on the team right now.

drowe
08-25-2008, 02:51 PM
Drowe, I think you need to somehow upgrade the RB position. Maybe move a WR for one?
Also, are there any other TEs available? I thought I heard somewhere that Carlson is the 3rd TE on the team right now.

yeah, i don't quite have room to move at WR either considering i'll probably be starting 3 of the ones i have. as far as RB, i'm not really worried. in a 14 team league, everybody is gonna have a weakness. i'm gonna begin the season starting Peterson and Stewart. if that doesn't work out, and Mendenhall looks quiet too, i really don't have a problem starting Peterson AND Taylor every week.

good to know about Carlson though. i'll only need him for the bye week. i'll have to watch the waiver wire. thanks though.

thebow305
08-26-2008, 10:45 AM
Does anyone know of some of certain Defensive players that get used on offense? I know there is Mike Vrabel, obviously, but can anyone think of any others?

Gay Ork Wang
08-26-2008, 10:47 AM
Jared Allen had a TD Reception last year.

I wish Shaun Rogers and Ted Washington would try to play FB/RB

Eaglez.Fan
08-26-2008, 10:48 AM
Potentially Dan Kelcko on the GL for Philly.

bsaza2358
08-26-2008, 11:02 AM
Klecko is not at all involved in the offensive packages as of now. The Eagles under Reid have rarely used defensive players in any package.

'cuse-213
08-26-2008, 11:08 AM
10 team league. Picked 8th.

QB: Carson Palmer
QB: Jay Cutler
RB: Willis McGahee
RB: Thomas Jones
RB: Ronnie Brown
RB: Matt Forte
RB: Chester Taylor
WR: Terrell Owens
WR: Braylon Edwards
WR: Jerricho Cotchery
WR: Donte Stallworth
TE: Heath Miller
TE: Dustin Keller
D/ST: Jets
K: Mason Crosby

Bills2083
08-26-2008, 01:47 PM
cuse, how many players at each position do you start per week?

drowe
08-26-2008, 01:56 PM
10 team league. Picked 8th.

QB: Carson Palmer
QB: Jay Cutler
RB: Willis McGahee
RB: Thomas Jones
RB: Ronnie Brown
RB: Matt Forte
RB: Chester Taylor
WR: Terrell Owens
WR: Braylon Edwards
WR: Jerricho Cotchery
WR: Donte Stallworth
TE: Heath Miller
TE: Dustin Keller
D/ST: Jets
K: Mason Crosby


excellence. everybody is gonna tell you that your RBs suck but, everybody is wrong. Willis McGahee is the most underrated fantasy RB this year. with Cam Cameron at OC, he is gonna get used very well (although, i still wouldn't hesitate to snag Ray Rice if i were you). Thomas Jones is solid too. just because he's old doesn't mean he's not gonna get more carries than some of the young dudes that'll go 2 rounds before him. also, i question how much Ricky Williams will really do in Miami before he a) breaks something or b) smokes something. we've all seen it before...and then it's Ronnie to the rescue for the Fish and your fantasy team.

your WRs are obviously sexy.

thebow305
08-26-2008, 02:22 PM
10 team league. Picked 8th.

QB: Carson Palmer
QB: Jay Cutler
RB: Willis McGahee
RB: Thomas Jones
RB: Ronnie Brown
RB: Matt Forte
RB: Chester Taylor
WR: Terrell Owens
WR: Braylon Edwards
WR: Jerricho Cotchery
WR: Donte Stallworth
TE: Heath Miller
TE: Dustin Keller
D/ST: Jets
K: Mason Crosby


Damn that lineup is sexy!

Bills2083
08-26-2008, 02:35 PM
excellence. everybody is gonna tell you that your RBs suck but, everybody is wrong. Willis McGahee is the most underrated fantasy RB this year. with Cam Cameron at OC, he is gonna get used very well (although, i still wouldn't hesitate to snag Ray Rice if i were you). Thomas Jones is solid too. just because he's old doesn't mean he's not gonna get more carries than some of the young dudes that'll go 2 rounds before him. also, i question how much Ricky Williams will really do in Miami before he a) breaks something or b) smokes something. we've all seen it before...and then it's Ronnie to the rescue for the Fish and your fantasy team.

your WRs are obviously sexy.


Hasn't McGahee had some knee problems though?

bsaza2358
08-26-2008, 02:56 PM
McGahee had knee surgery and says he'll be ready for Week 1. I'm hearing whispers that his recovery is going a little slower than he likes, but that's nothing set in stone. He is fine as a third tier fantasy back on a bad offense.

drowe
08-26-2008, 03:03 PM
yeah, i would definitely take McGahee over Frank Gore.

bsaza2358
08-26-2008, 03:04 PM
Depending on the scoring system, I probably wouldn't, but I like McGahee.

drowe
08-26-2008, 03:06 PM
Ok, 12 team league. picked 7th. about 10 minutes before the draft, commish says he's gonna make it a keeper league. thanks for the notice a-hole. anyway.

we start:
1 QB
1 RB
1 WR
1 TE
1 RB/WR
2 WR/TE
1 K
1 DEF

QB
Jay Cutler
Brett Favre

RB
Marshawn Lynch
Darren McFadden
Selvin Young
Rashard Mendenhall

WR
Randy Moss
Calvin Johnson
Jericho Cotchery
Robert Meachem

TE
Kellen Winslow
Kevin Boss

K
Stephen Gostkowski

DEF
Arizona

oh, and apparently, we'll be keeping 2 players.

Geo
08-26-2008, 03:09 PM
That's from a 12-teamer? Excellent job.

Average OT LB
08-26-2008, 03:10 PM
Ok, 12 team league. picked 7th. about 10 minutes before the draft, commish says he's gonna make it a keeper league. thanks for the notice a-hole. anyway.

we start:
1 QB
1 RB
1 WR
1 TE
1 RB/WR
2 WR/TE
1 K
1 DEF

QB
Jay Cutler
Brett Favre

RB
Marshawn Lynch
Darren McFadden
Selvin Young
Rashard Mendenhall

WR
Randy Moss
Calvin Johnson
Jericho Cotchery
Robert Meachem

TE
Kellen Winslow
Kevin Boss

K
Stephen Gostkowski

DEF
Arizona

oh, and apparently, we'll be keeping 2 players.

I think you did a very good job.. but not feelin the defense

bsaza2358
08-26-2008, 03:11 PM
Ok, 12 team league. picked 7th. about 10 minutes before the draft, commish says he's gonna make it a keeper league. thanks for the notice a-hole. anyway.

we start:
1 QB
1 RB
1 WR
1 TE
1 RB/WR
2 WR/TE
1 K
1 DEF

QB
Jay Cutler
Brett Favre

RB
Marshawn Lynch
Darren McFadden
Selvin Young
Rashard Mendenhall

WR
Randy Moss
Calvin Johnson
Jericho Cotchery
Robert Meachem

TE
Kellen Winslow
Kevin Boss

K
Stephen Gostkowski

DEF
Arizona

oh, and apparently, we'll be keeping 2 players.

Interesting settings. Your commish is an ahole and should be removed for incompetence. Anyway, I'd drop Boss and add more WR depth. Winslow is great at TE, but most other TE's won't match enough production to make them rosterable. I think your top players are really good, and you should be fine. No real weakness and enough upside to get you by.

drowe
08-26-2008, 03:12 PM
I think you did a very good job.. but not feelin the defense

i'm with ya on the defense. everybody only drafted one..and it was my last pick...i figure i'll have 2 weeks to decide on a better one.
Buffalo
Philly
Houston
Seattle
were all left and i thought about all of 'em. any thoughts?
i know Seattle jumps out, but i have them in my other league and i like to cover my bases.

Geo
08-26-2008, 03:14 PM
Changing anything 10 minutes before the Draft is beyond bush and unacceptable, btw. You put things up to a league vote.

If this is a buy-in league, you tell the Commish he can take his money back from the pot or find someone to buy his place for him because this crap isn't tolerated. And a Commish who can do things right will replace him.

bsaza2358
08-26-2008, 03:14 PM
All 4 are better options than that IMO. I like Seattle best by a good margin. Eagles might be a good sleeper option.

Geo
08-26-2008, 03:15 PM
Pick-up Seattle or Philly ASAP imo.

Gay Ork Wang
08-26-2008, 03:19 PM
i really like Houston this year. Bennett and Robinson, Demeco, Williams and Okoye are all young and still progressing. All they need is a Safety

bsaza2358
08-26-2008, 03:20 PM
I think Seattle and Philly are stronger options at this moment than Buffalo and Houston due to veteran personnel and scheme.

drowe
08-26-2008, 03:34 PM
Changing anything 10 minutes before the Draft is beyond bush and unacceptable, btw. You put things up to a league vote.

If this is a buy-in league, you tell the Commish he can take his money back from the pot or find someone to buy his place for him because this crap isn't tolerated. And a Commish who can do things right will replace him.

oh, this guy is a class act. this is a yahoo league with a lot of my in-laws. commish is wifey's cousin.
-he always starts the league AS SOON as fantasy football is available on yahoo so nobody else can take the commish job.
-he always has some quirky scoring (ex. all the flex spots this year).
-i really think he does stuff just to get a reaction out of people. he only posted the keeper rules on the league board before the draft..i know my brother in law didn't know it was a keeper league until halfway through the draft.

but, it's a very lively league. much trash talk. much bragging rights. very knowledgable players. and, it's not for money. i love the league. but, a violent overthrow may have to take place.

and, i'm not personally complaining about the keeper change. i've been wanting to get into a keeper league for a while, so i was kinda excited. i'm sure others weren't as happy.

Go_Eagles77
08-27-2008, 04:17 PM
I'm pretty happy with my new team, I'm wondering what you guys think. It was a 12 team league with 14 rounds.

Starters

QB - Jay Cutler DEN
RB - Brian Westbrook PHI
RB - Jamal Lewis CLE
WR - Plaxico Burress NYG
WR - Reggie Wayne IND
WR - Donald Driver GB
TE - Tony Scheffler DEN
K - Nate Kaeding SD
DST - Packers

Bench

QB - Jeff Garcia TB
RB - Ronnie Brown MIA
WR - Reggie Brown PHI
WR - Vincent Jackson SD
TE - LJ Smith PHI

Average OT LB
08-27-2008, 04:18 PM
I'm pretty happy with my new team, I'm wondering what you guys think. It was a 12 team league with 14 rounds.

Starters

QB - Jay Cutler DEN
RB - Brian Westbrook PHI
RB - Jamal Lewis CLE
WR - Plaxico Burress NYG
WR - Reggie Wayne IND
WR - Donald Driver GB
TE - Tony Scheffler DEN
K - Nate Kaeding SD
DST - Packers

Bench

QB - Jeff Garcia TB
RB - Ronnie Brown MIA
WR - Reggie Brown PHI
WR - Vincent Jackson SD
TE - LJ Smith PHI

you did a solid job. I like the talent at each position, and the depth as well. very solid. Throwin in a little LJ there i see?

bsaza2358
08-28-2008, 08:26 AM
Here's my team. No PPR, start 2 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, 2 D, 2 K. 20 round draft, 6 points for all TD's. 12 teams. As an FYI, there was a huge QB run this year. 10 in the first 2 rounds, 12 in the first 3. I had to reach on my QB's due to scarcity.

1. (6) Steven Jackson
2. (19) Ryan Grant
3. (30) Marques Colston
4. (43) Matt Schaub
5. (54) Eli Manning
6. (67) Calvin Johnson
7. (7 Thomas Jones
8. (91) Joey Galloway
9. (102) Reggie Brown
10. (115) Philadelphia
11. (126) Selvin Young
12. (139) Chad Pennington
13. (150) Green Bay
14. (163) Jerry Porter
15. (174) Owen Daniels
16. (187) Martin Gramatica
17. (19 Ronald Curry
18. (211) Joe Nedney
19. (222) Sage Rosenfels
20. (235) Robert Meachem

cdub11
08-28-2008, 08:34 AM
Here is my Team after a few trades, 12 person league

QB Drew Brees
RB Clinton Portis
RB Willie Parker
RB Thomas Jones
WR Terrell Owens
WR Marques Colston
TE Chris Cooley
D/ST Jacksonville Jaguars
K Kris Brown

Bench
Carson Palmer
Chris Johnson
Ladell Betts
Deshaun Foster
Steve Smith (panthers)
Ted Ginn
Desean Jackson

princefielder28
08-28-2008, 08:42 AM
Here is my Team after a few trades, 12 person league

QB Drew Brees
RB Clinton Portis
RB Willie Parker
RB Thomas Jones
WR Terrell Owens
WR Marques Colston
TE Chris Cooley
D/ST Jacksonville Jaguars
K Kris Brown

Bench
Carson Palmer
Chris Johnson
Ladell Betts
Deshaun Foster
Steve Smith (panthers)
Ted Ginn
Desean Jackson

A 12 man league? You should try trading Carson and one of your backs for a more elite RB and then your team would be flat out sick

bsaza2358
08-28-2008, 08:49 AM
Maybe I should reformulate my team for people to more easily figure it out. Anyway, 12 team league, 20 rounds, no PPR. Starting 2 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 2 K, 2 D:

QB: Schaub, Eli, Pennington
RB: Jackson, Grant, Thomas Jones, Selvin Young
WR: Colston, Calvin Johnson, Galloway, Reggie Brown, Ronald Curry, Porter, and Meachem
TE: Daniels
K: Grammatica and Nedney
D: Philly and GB

619
08-28-2008, 08:57 AM
Maybe I should reformulate my team for people to more easily figure it out. Anyway, 12 team league, 20 rounds, no PPR. Starting 2 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 2 K, 2 D:

QB: Schaub, Eli, Pennington
RB: Jackson, Grant, Thomas Jones, Selvin Young
WR: Colston, Calvin Johnson, Galloway, Reggie Brown, Ronald Curry, Porter, and Meachem
TE: Daniels
K: Grammatica and Nedney
D: Philly and GB

You may have a QB dilemma on the rise. Never a bad idea though .

Gay Ork Wang
08-28-2008, 09:02 AM
Maybe I should reformulate my team for people to more easily figure it out. Anyway, 12 team league, 20 rounds, no PPR. Starting 2 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 1 TE, 2 K, 2 D:

QB: Schaub, Eli, Pennington
RB: Jackson, Grant, Thomas Jones, Selvin Young
WR: Colston, Calvin Johnson, Galloway, Reggie Brown, Ronald Curry, Porter, and Meachem
TE: Daniels
K: Grammatica and Nedney
D: Philly and GB
u shouldve went QB earlier Imo. The 6 Points for QBs are huge

619
08-28-2008, 09:07 AM
u shouldve went QB earlier Imo. The 6 Points for QBs are huge

Nah, he's fine with Schaub at QB imo. Huge breakout candidate and it still allowed him to select two elite RBs in the process. I don't mind his draft strategy at all .

princefielder28
08-28-2008, 09:07 AM
12 man league, 15 rounds....pretty typical yahoo! league

Current starters

QB Drew Brees
RB Marshawn Lynch
RB Matt Forte
WR TJ Houshmandzadeh
WR Ted Ginn Jr.
WR Courtney Taylor
TE Owen Daniels
K Josh Scobee
DEF Dallas Cowboys

Bench

QB Marc Bulger
RB Thomas Jones
RB Jonathan Stewart
RB Chris Johnson
WR Steve Smith (susp.)
WR Robert Meachem

Right now I'm trying to move Thomas Jones for a quality third WR

619
08-28-2008, 09:17 AM
12 man league, 15 rounds....pretty typical yahoo! league

Current starters

QB Drew Brees
RB Marshawn Lynch
RB Matt Forte
WR TJ Houshmandzadeh
WR Ted Ginn Jr.
WR Courtney Taylor
TE Owen Daniels
K Josh Scobee
DEF Dallas Cowboys

Bench

QB Marc Bulger
RB Thomas Jones
RB Jonathan Stewart
RB Chris Johnson
WR Steve Smith (susp.)
WR Robert Meachem

Right now I'm trying to move Thomas Jones for a quality third WR

Your team is really dependent on the success of those rookie RBs but if you find a temporary solution for the third receiver spot I think you should be fine in the long haul.

LonghornsLegend
08-28-2008, 09:19 AM
Solid team, I drafted TJ also in a redraft league due to value but I moved him and Calvin Johnson for Brandon Marshall and Mendenhall, so I agree I'd look to package him with a WR and see what WR you can get...Meachem's value is pretty high and I don't see him being consistent enough week to week, and since he is on your bench I'd see what those two could net you.


I'd rely on Stewart and CJ as that 2nd Rb more so then Forte probably.

cdub11
08-28-2008, 11:15 AM
A 12 man league? You should try trading Carson and one of your backs for a more elite RB and then your team would be flat out sick

yeah a 12 team league, im working on a deal right now to pick up Marshawn Lynch

bsaza2358
08-28-2008, 11:15 AM
u shouldve went QB earlier Imo. The 6 Points for QBs are huge

At #6 overall, Manning and Brady were off the board. I took Jackson, who I had at #4 overall and BPA. Soon after I went, Romo and Brees went, then the guy at the 12/13 took Derek Anderson. In the second round, I had Reggie Wayne and Grant on the board, plus a bunch of second tier QB's. I chose Grant, then the guys right after me took McNabb, Palmer, Hasselbeck, Ben, and Cutler. That left me Colston at #30 overall, and there wasn't good QB value to be had. I decided that I would have lesser QB's, but strong RB and WR.

Gay Ork Wang
08-28-2008, 11:40 AM
u shouldve went Palmer or Hasselbeck.

bsaza2358
08-28-2008, 11:41 AM
When I took Grant, I had Palmer, Hasselbeck, McNabb, Cutler, Big Ben on the board, and 10 picks between mine, with plenty of RB's and WR's on the board. I figured I could take Grant (my BPA by far), then get one of those guys in the third round. All of them went, basically in order. I couldn't have foreseen that.

Gay Ork Wang
08-28-2008, 11:50 AM
When I took Grant, I had Palmer, Hasselbeck, McNabb, Cutler, Big Ben on the board, and 10 picks between mine, with plenty of RB's and WR's on the board. I figured I could take Grant (my BPA by far), then get one of those guys in the third round. All of them went, basically in order. I couldn't have foreseen that.
ah well, in 2 QB leagues, those are really really important and besides those 6 points are ridiculous.

With a 20/33 300 yards and 4 TDs, u get 12/15 Points (depends on 20 or 25 yards) and an additional 24 points which is pretty ridiculous

Hines
08-28-2008, 01:04 PM
Tony Scheffler or Ben Watson? Which one should I pick up to back up Heath Miller? Which one should I start out of the three?

bsaza2358
08-28-2008, 01:05 PM
I don't think you need a backup TE until you need one. Start Miller and keep an eye on the other 2. Make an add if you have to.

cdub11
08-28-2008, 01:11 PM
Tony Scheffler or Ben Watson? Which one should I pick up to back up Heath Miller? Which one should I start out of the three?

I dont keep a backup tight end, but if you do i would go with Scheffler

Geo
08-28-2008, 01:58 PM
i really like Houston this year. Bennett and Robinson, Demeco, Williams and Okoye are all young and still progressing. All they need is a Safety
Secondary is definitely the weakness of the Texans.
Dunta Robinson won't be ready to go until mid-season, as he recovers from last year's season-ending injury.
I like football metrics, but KC Joyner and other similar fellows are going overboard with the hype for Fred Bennett. The kid is going to come down to Earth some, as teams attack him and see the film. It's already started in the preseason.
The team decided to waste money by signing Jacques Reeves in free agency this past summer.
Same starters at safety as last year, I believe, Will Demps at SS and CC Brown at FS. Maybe the '07 Draft kid from Stanford can step up and give them an upgrade.

The offense is going to have to score to win games, and I think they can do that. But don't expect them to overtake the Colts or the Jags when those offenses will score on the Texans.

Philliez01
08-28-2008, 04:09 PM
12-team league, did an offline draft which was pretty cool. But I get a trade offer, here are the teams. Those bolded are ones being dealt. Backups in parentheses.

His Team:

QB-Derek Anderson (Philip Rivers)
RB-Adrian Peterson (Thomas Jones)
RB-Kenny Watson
W/R-Kevin Smith
WR-Reggie Wayne (DJ Hackett, Bernard Berrian, Bryant Johnson)
WR-Roddy White
TE-Jason Witten (Donald Lee)
K-Rob Bironas
D/ST-Steelers

Cheyenne Frank's Diary (My Team):

QB-Jay Cutler (Brett Favre)
RB-Maurice Jones-Drew (Kevin Jones and the soon-to-be-dropped Tatum Bell)
RB-Willie Parker
W/R-Dwayne Bowe
WR-Anquan Boldin (Bobby Engram, Robert Meachem)
WR-Wes Welker
TE-Todd Heap (Ben Utecht)
K-Taylor Mehlhalff
D/ST-Redskins

Settings:
6 points for a rushing TD and receiving TD. 1 point per every 10 rushing yards and 1 point per every 10 receiving yards.

princefielder28
08-28-2008, 04:44 PM
nice squad, don't do the trade

Gay Ork Wang
08-28-2008, 05:13 PM
Ur Rbs are solid and ur QBs are good but ur WR especially the Depth is not really appealing and im not a big fan of the Chargers D

my team, same league:

QB: David Garrard, Jacksonville Jaguars (8)
RB: LT, San Diego Chargers (1)
RB: Reggie Bush, New Orleans Saints (2)
WR: Braylon Edwards, Cleveland Browns (3)
WR: Tory Holt, St. Louis Rams (4)
W/R: Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons (5)
W/R: Anthony Gonzalez, Indianapolis Colts (9)
TE: Todd Heap, Baltimore Ravens (10)
K: Robbie "Good as" Gould (14)
DEF: Houston Texans DEF

BN: Rashard Mendenhall, RB, Pittsburgh Steelers (7)
BN: Deuce McAllister, RB, New Orleans Saints (6)
BN: Vincent Jackson, WR, San Diego Chargers (11)
BN: Fred Jackson, RB, Buffalo Bills (12)
BN: Jacob Hester, RB, San Diego Chargers (13)
BN: Vince Young, QB, Tennesee Titans (15)

Its a point per reception league
Thoughts??

awfullyquiet
08-28-2008, 05:18 PM
no.
that's a big no too.

roddy white isn't that big of an upgrade and bengals = clusterfuck in the backfield.

princefielder28
08-28-2008, 05:18 PM
Thoughts??

quality starters but not very deep

awfullyquiet
08-28-2008, 05:19 PM
Thoughts??

you got lt AND reggie bush?

sick **** in a ppr

Gay Ork Wang
08-28-2008, 05:21 PM
quality starters but not very deep
Well i felt i am pretty deep at WR. i picked up some Handcuffs

Unbiased
08-28-2008, 05:22 PM
10 team league on Yahoo

Starters

QB: Carson Palmer
RB: LaDanian Tomlinson
RB: Laurence Maroney
WR: Braylon Edwards
WR: Chris Chambers
WR: Hines Ward
TE: Antonio Gates
K: Nick Folk
DEF: Jaguars

Bench

QB: David Garrard
RB: Selvin Young
WR: Derrick Mason
WR: Isaac Bruce
TE: L.J. Smith
K: Phil Dawson

Gay Ork Wang
08-28-2008, 05:23 PM
its alright for a 10 Team League i guess but ur WRs are not really good

KCJ58
08-28-2008, 05:38 PM
its alright for a 10 Team League i guess but ur WRs are not really good

why did your name get changed?

princefielder28
08-28-2008, 05:39 PM
why did your name get changed?

Seine Name ist Georg auf Deutsch

alca1992
08-30-2008, 03:58 PM
alright i have a little proplem. i have amani toomer and i want to get rid of him. out of these free agents which one should i sign (or should i keep amani)

Kevin Curtis
Jerry Porter
DJ Hackett
Mushin Muhammed
Micheal Jenkins
Derrick Hagan

princefielder28
08-30-2008, 04:42 PM
alright i have a little proplem. i have amani toomer and i want to get rid of him. out of these free agents which one should i sign (or should i keep amani)

Kevin Curtis
Jerry Porter
DJ Hackett
Mushin Muhammed
Micheal Jenkins
Derrick Hagan

are you looking for a short term fix???

If it's season long pickup I go with Jerry Porter; he's gonna be Jacksonville's #1 when healthy

also, i don't know if he's available, but look at courtney taylor from seattle; he'll be playing the flanker position while Engram is out and Obomanu just went down with an injury so he has no compeition behind him for the time being. A nice short term fix who will see several chances to make plays.

Hines
08-30-2008, 04:57 PM
I was offered Big Ben and Holmes for Reggie Wayne, should I do it?

alca1992
08-30-2008, 05:02 PM
I was offered Big Ben and Holmes for Reggie Wayne, should I do it?

who is your QB?

Hines
08-30-2008, 05:03 PM
who is your QB?

Drew Brees, but I was thinking on trading him for another running back.

princefielder28
08-30-2008, 05:10 PM
Drew Brees, but I was thinking on trading him for another running back.

Drew Brees is a better option at QB than Big Ben; more targets, historically a better fantasy option and more weapons

Geo
08-30-2008, 10:09 PM
I had my Draft today in my money league, and I am pleased as punch. Mind you this is my fourth league with these guys, and there's always crazy stuff every year when it comes to the Draft (like the early QB run of '06). This year it's the second year of a keeper money league, and there were a few questionable keeper picks made.

Anyways, basic numbers: 14 teams, 6 pts all TDs, PPR.

QB Kurt Warner (7.89)
RB Reggie Bush (keeper)
RB Ryan Grant (keeper)
WR Wes Welker (keeper)
WR/TE Marques Colston (4.43)
TE Kellen Winslow, Jr. (5.61)
K (will pick one up Monday)
D/ST Baltimore Ravens (13.182)

BN Matt Schaub (8.108)
BN Chris Johnson (6.80)
BN Ahman Green (9.126)
BN Steve Slaton (10.127)
BN Dominic Rhodes (14.183)
BN Owen Daniels (12.155)
IR Bobby Engram (11.154)

I adore this team, probably moreso than any other ff team I've had before. There's six keepers on the roster, seven if you count Slaton, and eight if Schaub takes off like he potentially can. I'll definitely be trading some off next offseason to upgrade my draft picks, I did two trades this offseason which helped my team a great deal.

Hopefully these guys can rake in some cash to make up for last year. ;)

comahan
08-30-2008, 10:14 PM
You have a ton of Texans, meaning you win. Good work.

Geo
08-30-2008, 10:18 PM
I targeted Slaton for sure, he's going to a be a poor man's Clinton Portis in Houston imo, but Green fell to the end of the 9th so I had to grab him too. He's a potential starting runningback.

There were a handful of owners disappointed to see me snatch up Schaub. I couldn't believe he fell that far, especially in a league with 1 pt per completion and -1 pt per incompletion. Especially when the owner in front of me that round didn't have a QB. :p

Daniels falling to the top of the 12th round was just silly, that shouldn't happen.

thefalconer
08-31-2008, 10:00 AM
should i drop felix jones for chris perry?

-edit-

another question.. steve slaton or tatum bell?

Geo
08-31-2008, 10:59 AM
It would help if you post your roster, to see if there might be someone else worth dropping than Felix. That said, Felix is the clear-cut #2 to Barber and will give up goal-line carries to him. Similar to Kenny Watson to Chris Perry, who will finally be the #1 in Cincy after being drafted by the team in the first round in '04 (there was a freak injury or two and also a misdiagnosed injury which have kept him on the sidelines).

Personally, I like Steve Slaton more than Tatum Bell. But I believe it is the case that after final cuts, the Lions have only two backs on their roster right now - Kevin Smith and Tatum Bell. And Smith is an injury timebomb after his workload in college last year, I can't shake that feeling myself. So that could leave all the workload to Bell, what he would do with it would remain to be seen.

thefalconer
08-31-2008, 11:19 AM
well the two questions involve two separate teams of mine.
felix jones is clearly my last RB behind reggie bush, mjd, and steven jackson.

on my other team, tatum bell is backing up brandon jacobs and brian westbrook. and both watson and perry are FAs that i could acquire.

Eaglez.Fan
08-31-2008, 11:25 AM
Pick up Perry.

saintsfan912
08-31-2008, 11:37 AM
QB - David Garrard/Jamarcus Russell
HB - Clinton PortisJamal Lewis/Larry Johnson/Felix Jones/Chestor Taylor
WR - Andre Johnson/Dwayne Bowe/Reggie Brown/Anthony Gonzales
TE - Antonio Gates/Benjamin Watson
K - Nick Folk
DEF - Dallas

Point per reception league with a flex position.

saintsfan912
08-31-2008, 04:52 PM
2nd league, just drafted today.

QB - Tony Romo/Matt Schaub
HB - Clinton Portis/Ronnie Brown/Fred Taylor/Pierre Thomas/Jacob Hester
WR - Chad Ocho Cinco/Chris Chambers/Jerry Porter/Kevin Curtis
TE - Jeremy Shockey/Zach Miller
K - Rob Bironas
DEF - San Diego DEF/Cleveland DEF

No point per reception. With a flex position.

abaddon41_80
08-31-2008, 05:54 PM
I like your first one but I am not too fond of the second. Were there more people in the second one?

My team, 20 man league, 8th pick

QB: Drew Brees (2nd, 33rd overall)
RB: Steve Jackson (1st, 8th overall), Ricky Williams (5th, 88th overall)
RB/WR: Chris Johnson (6th, 113th overall)
WR: Jericho Cotchery (4th, 73rd overall), Jason Hill (12th, 233rd overall)
TE: Mercedes Lewis (11th, 208th overall)
D/ST: Ravens (13th, 248th overall)
K: David Akers (16th, 313th overall)

Bench:

Jon Kitna (8th, 153rd overall)
Steve Slaton (7th, 128th overall)
James Hardy (10th, 193rd overall)
Steve Breaston (14th, 273rd overall)
Brandon Marshall (3rd, 48th overall)
Ben Utecht (9th, 168th overall)
Jacob Hester (15th, 288th overall)

Captain Canuck
08-31-2008, 06:04 PM
What do you think of my team? It's a 10 team league, and I had the 9th pick.

Starters:

QB- David Garrard
RB- Clinton Portis
RB- Jamal Lewis
WR- Plaxico Burress
WR- Chad Ocho Cinco
WR- Anthony Gonzalez
TE- Kellen Winslow Jr.
K- Robbie Gould
DEF- Seattle

Bench:

QB- Jay Cutler
RB- Ronnie Brown
RB- Deangelo Williams
RB- Rashard Mendenhall
WR- Patrick Crayton
WR- Robert Meachum
TE- Greg Olsen

Although I may be a little weak at QB, I think I did pretty good overall, I'll probably drop one of my backup RB's eventually for another WR. I like being stocked well at RB to start the year though.

neko4
08-31-2008, 06:05 PM
I like your first one but I am not too fond of the second. Were there more people in the second one?

My team, 20 man league, 8th pick

QB: Drew Brees (2nd, 33rd overall)
RB: Steve Jackson (1st, 8th overall), Ricky Williams (5th, 88th overall)
RB/WR: Chris Johnson (6th, 113th overall)
WR: Jericho Cotchery (4th, 73rd overall), Jason Hill (12th, 233rd overall)
TE: Mercedes Lewis (11th, 208th overall)
D/ST: Ravens (13th, 248th overall)
K: David Akers (16th, 313th overall)

Bench:

Jon Kitna (8th, 153rd overall)
Steve Slaton (7th, 128th overall)
James Hardy (10th, 193rd overall)
Steve Breaston (14th, 273rd overall)
Brandon Marshall (3rd, 48th overall)
Ben Utecht (9th, 168th overall)
Jacob Hester (15th, 288th overall)

I know he has some character concerns, but why isnt Marshall starting?

saintsfan912
08-31-2008, 06:12 PM
Marshall is suspended for 1 game, that might be why.

I'm not too crazy about my 2nd team either. I had 11th pick out of 12. I don't usually pick a QB til round 4 but I picked Romo in the 2nd. No other HBs worth a pick that high. Only 1 non-HB picked in the first round so HBs were sparce come round 2.

The 2nd draft is a $100 league with a $5 transaction fee for each add/drop/trade.

abaddon41_80
08-31-2008, 07:29 PM
I know he has some character concerns, but why isnt Marshall starting?

Marshall is suspended for the first game, like saintsfan said. I don't like having to start Jason Hill because right now he is 4th on the depth chart but maybe he can get a long TD or something. Even if he doesn't my week 1 match-up is greatly in my favor

Hines
09-01-2008, 03:18 PM
I was offered TO and Westbrook for Big Ben, SJack, and Fitz. Should I do this when I have Derek Anderson as my backup?

Geo
09-01-2008, 03:21 PM
Eh, I think I'd rather have the trio of players. No doubt if this is a keeper league.

Gay Ork Wang
09-01-2008, 04:09 PM
I like your first one but I am not too fond of the second. Were there more people in the second one?

My team, 20 man league, 8th pick

QB: Drew Brees (2nd, 33rd overall)
RB: Steve Jackson (1st, 8th overall), Ricky Williams (5th, 88th overall)
RB/WR: Chris Johnson (6th, 113th overall)
WR: Jericho Cotchery (4th, 73rd overall), Jason Hill (12th, 233rd overall)
TE: Mercedes Lewis (11th, 208th overall)
D/ST: Ravens (13th, 248th overall)
K: David Akers (16th, 313th overall)

Bench:

Jon Kitna (8th, 153rd overall)
Steve Slaton (7th, 128th overall)
James Hardy (10th, 193rd overall)
Steve Breaston (14th, 273rd overall)
Brandon Marshall (3rd, 48th overall)
Ben Utecht (9th, 168th overall)
Jacob Hester (15th, 288th overall)
For a 20 man league IMO a really solid team

Strongside
09-01-2008, 11:42 PM
Should I start Willie Parker (vs Houston), or Maurice-Jones Drew (vs Tennessee)?

MetSox17
09-02-2008, 09:43 AM
Should I start Willie Parker (vs Houston), or Maurice-Jones Drew (vs Tennessee)?

I have a similar situation.

MJD vs. Tennessee or Reggie Bush vs. Tampa Bay?

Geo
09-02-2008, 09:53 AM
Isn't Jones-Drew recovering from an ankle sprain? Will he even play?

I would definitely start Parker instead and Bush too if it's PPR.

619
09-02-2008, 09:58 AM
I have a similar situation.

MJD vs. Tennessee or Reggie Bush vs. Tampa Bay?

I'm in the same situation as well and at this point I'm still going with MJD. Reggie's injury concerns are worse than MJD's it still looks like and he's never had much success vs TB to begin with.

bsaza2358
09-02-2008, 10:02 AM
I think you go with the guy who is a guarantee to get touches and goal-line carries. I think you have to go with MJD.

cdub11
09-02-2008, 11:56 AM
ok so this is my team

QB Drew Brees
RB Clinton Portis
RB Willie Parker
RB Thomas Jones
WR Terrell Owens
WR Marques Colston
TE Chris Cooley
D/ST Jacksonville Jaguars
K Kris Brown

Bench
Carson Palmer
Chris Johnson
Ladell Betts
Deshaun Foster
Steve Smith (panthers)
Ted Ginn
Desean Jackson

Another Team just offered me this trade

I get Brian Westbrook, Jake Delhomme and Ben Utecht

I give up Carson Palmer, Willie Parker, Chris Cooley and Desaun Foster

princefielder28
09-02-2008, 12:05 PM
cdub, is it a PPR league?

Geo
09-02-2008, 12:14 PM
I'm amazed you got both Brees and Palmer, and yet the RBs and WRs you have also. Is this an eight team league?

cdub11
09-02-2008, 12:57 PM
cdub, is it a PPR league?

its not ppr

cdub11
09-02-2008, 01:00 PM
I'm amazed you got both Brees and Palmer, and yet the RBs and WRs you have also. Is this an eight team league?

no its a 12 team league, i traded for palmer becuase one guy did autodraft and ended up with 5 QBs

Geo
09-02-2008, 01:10 PM
That's highly impressive, you cleaned their clocks draft-wise.

As for the offer, it's good to upgrade Parker into Westbrook. Sure you drop off from Palmer to Delhomme, but we're talking about your back-up QB so the effect is muted mostly. However the drop-off comes at TE, though getting rid of Foster opens up a roster spot to potentially pick up someone from the waiver wire. Cooley is the last of the second tier, and there's a noticeable drop to the next tier. I should say that of your three starting RBs, I personally like Parker the least.

Someone else is bound to need a QB in your league though, if one guy has four and there are 12 teams. If you don't want to give up Cooley, I would announce to the league that I'm willing to trade Palmer and Parker for the best RB in return, and see who offers the best bid.

cdub11
09-02-2008, 01:24 PM
That's highly impressive, you cleaned their clocks draft-wise.

As for the offer, it's good to upgrade Parker into Westbrook. Sure you drop off from Palmer to Delhomme, but we're talking about your back-up QB so the effect is muted mostly. However the drop-off comes at TE, though getting rid of Foster opens up a roster spot to potentially pick up someone from the waiver wire. Cooley is the last of the second tier, and there's a noticeable drop to the next tier. I should say that of your three starting RBs, I personally like Parker the least.

Someone else is bound to need a QB in your league though, if one guy has four and there are 12 teams. If you don't want to give up Cooley, I would announce to the league that I'm willing to trade Palmer and Parker for the best RB in return, and see who offers the best bid.

yeah the cooley for utecht part is what im unsure of on the deal, parker is the guy i like the least of the three RB as well and im ok with the backup qb part to get westbrook

drowe
09-02-2008, 01:53 PM
don't do it. having 2 elite QBs should get you a lot in a trade. you shouldn't have to worry about losing your TE too.

princefielder28
09-02-2008, 03:50 PM
here's my RBs

Marshawn Lynch
Thomas Jones
Jonathan Stewart
Matt Forte
Chris Johnson

I am strongly considering moving Marshawn Lynch because of the absence of Jason Peters. I question how effective he'll be with that big piece missing in the O-Line and an unproven, yet solid potential, QB in Trent Edwards. Is this a bad idea?

Gay Ork Wang
09-02-2008, 03:51 PM
With those unproven backs, id rather see how they pan out before trading a "proven" one

bsaza2358
09-02-2008, 03:52 PM
They had no QB last year and Peters, but he still produced. The guy is a real talent, but are you comfortable playing the rooks with TJones? See what you can get, but I doubt you'll get good value.

princefielder28
09-02-2008, 03:53 PM
They had no QB last year and Peters, but he still produced. The guy is a real talent, but are you comfortable playing the rooks with TJones? See what you can get, but I doubt you'll get good value.

I'm gonna gauge the market and if I get what I'm looking for then I'm gonna pull the trigger, but it'll have to be quite solid.

cdub11
09-02-2008, 04:06 PM
here's my RBs

Marshawn Lynch
Thomas Jones
Jonathan Stewart
Matt Forte
Chris Johnson

I am strongly considering moving Marshawn Lynch because of the absence of Jason Peters. I question how effective he'll be with that big piece missing in the O-Line and an unproven, yet solid potential, QB in Trent Edwards. Is this a bad idea?

thats a nice RB group but i would hold on to Lynch

cdub11
09-02-2008, 04:10 PM
That's highly impressive, you cleaned their clocks draft-wise.

As for the offer, it's good to upgrade Parker into Westbrook. Sure you drop off from Palmer to Delhomme, but we're talking about your back-up QB so the effect is muted mostly. However the drop-off comes at TE, though getting rid of Foster opens up a roster spot to potentially pick up someone from the waiver wire. Cooley is the last of the second tier, and there's a noticeable drop to the next tier. I should say that of your three starting RBs, I personally like Parker the least.

Someone else is bound to need a QB in your league though, if one guy has four and there are 12 teams. If you don't want to give up Cooley, I would announce to the league that I'm willing to trade Palmer and Parker for the best RB in return, and see who offers the best bid.

I received another offer

Steven Jackson & Kurt Warner for Carson Palmer & Willie Parker

princefielder28
09-02-2008, 04:12 PM
I received another offer

Steven Jackson & Kurt Warner for Carson Palmer & Willie Parker

i'd do it...

Geo
09-02-2008, 04:22 PM
Jump on that ASAP, buddy.

There might not even be a drop-off from Palmer to Warner, it might be a drop-off the other way, now that Warner is the starter from day one.

D-Unit
09-02-2008, 04:33 PM
Word to the wise. Get Dustin Keller.

princefielder28
09-02-2008, 05:41 PM
Word to the wise. Get Dustin Keller.

Why D-Unit? Why?

D-Unit
09-02-2008, 06:28 PM
Why D-Unit? Why?
Because he's going to put up WR numbers for you at the TE spot. He may even make the move to WR and won't be qualified for a TE next year.

*This is just my hunch and I could be dead wrong. So I'll adjust quickly if it doesn't pan out the way I think.

scottyboy
09-02-2008, 06:30 PM
Word to the wise. Get Dustin Keller.

I've been saying that the whole fantasy draft season! my TE's are either Boss, Keller or Fasano! MY SLEEPERS

D-Unit
09-02-2008, 06:36 PM
I've been saying that the whole fantasy draft season! my TE's are either Boss, Keller or Fasano! MY SLEEPERS
Too bad. You can't steal my e-credit for posting that advice. Go back to your hole.

iBoldin
09-02-2008, 06:50 PM
Here's my team from a draft I did last night. 12 man league, PPR, pretty standard league. I'm undecided on it, but I think I'm really deep, so I'm hoping I can swing a few trades my way. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DEF & K. I had the fourth overall selection.

QB Jay Cutler
RB Brian Westbrook
RB Michael Turner
WR Marques Colston
WR Donald Driver
WR DJ Hackett
TE Kellen Winslow Jr.
BN Jake Delhomme
BN Rashard Mendenhall
BN Thomas Jones
BN Jerry Porter
BN Isaac Bruce
BN Dustin Keller
BN Owen Daniels

I'm thinking of swinging a trade for another receiver, but I really like D.J. Hackett.

Bills2083
09-02-2008, 07:48 PM
I received another offer

Steven Jackson & Kurt Warner for Carson Palmer & Willie Parker

I'd accept that trade.

Bills2083
09-02-2008, 07:50 PM
Here's my team from a draft I did last night. 12 man league, PPR, pretty standard league. I'm undecided on it, but I think I'm really deep, so I'm hoping I can swing a few trades my way. 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DEF & K. I had the fourth overall selection.

QB Jay Cutler
RB Brian Westbrook
RB Michael Turner
WR Marques Colston
WR Donald Driver
WR DJ Hackett
TE Kellen Winslow Jr.
BN Jake Delhomme
BN Rashard Mendenhall
BN Thomas Jones
BN Jerry Porter
BN Isaac Bruce
BN Dustin Keller
BN Owen Daniels

I'm thinking of swinging a trade for another receiver, but I really like D.J. Hackett.


You seem very deep at TE. I'd try to move one of them for a better receiver.

scottyboy
09-02-2008, 07:52 PM
Too bad. You can't steal my e-credit for posting that advice. Go back to your hole.

you stole my sleepers! just check my rosters in all the NFLDC leagues :D

Bills2083
09-02-2008, 07:53 PM
Oh yeah, scotty, you'd be very pleased with me. On madden, I had a backfield consisting of Brian Leonard and Ray Rice. They're a good tandem together.

scottyboy
09-02-2008, 07:54 PM
Oh yeah, scotty, you'd be very pleased with me. On madden, I had a backfield consisting of Brian Leonard and Ray Rice. They're a good tandem together.

I've got the same thing, it's awesome!

Rob S
09-02-2008, 11:08 PM
10 team, pretty hefty bench. pretty standard scoring, no PPR.

QB: Peyton Manning, Jay Cutler

RB: Brian Westbrook, Laurence Maroney, Matt Forte, Julius Jones, Chris
Johnson, Chris Perry, Ray Rice

WR: Plaxico Burress, Lee Evans, Calvin Johnson, Vincent Jackson, Robert
Meachem

TE: Antonio Gates, Zac Miller

DEF: Titans

K: Rian Lindell

So, of course, how is the team? and, who do I start the season with at flex? CJ or Forte or maybe gamble big with Cris Johnson?

princefielder28
09-03-2008, 02:48 PM
On a non-bye week what do you guys think of this lineup?

QB Drew Brees
RB Thomas Jones
RB Matt Forte
WR TJ Houshmandzadeh
WR Steve Smith
WR Brandon Marshall
TE Chris Cooley
K Josh Scobee
DEF Dallas

D-Unit
09-03-2008, 02:51 PM
On a non-bye week what do you guys think of this lineup?

QB Drew Brees
RB Thomas Jones
RB Matt Forte
WR TJ Houshmandzadeh
WR Steve Smith
WR Brandon Marshall
TE Chris Cooley
K Josh Scobee
DEF Dallas
I'm trying to figure out who your #1 draft pick was. Looks like a potentially strong team. Just not in love with your RBs.

princefielder28
09-03-2008, 02:53 PM
I'm trying to figure out who your #1 draft pick was. Looks like a potentially strong team. Just not in love with your RBs.

I traded my first round pick....

D-Unit
09-03-2008, 03:02 PM
I traded my first round pick....
What was the deal?

princefielder28
09-03-2008, 03:07 PM
What was the deal?

Marshawn Lynch for Brandon Marshall and Chris Cooley

D-Unit
09-03-2008, 03:15 PM
Marshawn Lynch for Brandon Marshall and Chris Cooley
I like that deal for you. Good luck.

princefielder28
09-03-2008, 03:18 PM
I like that deal for you. Good luck.

Thanks D!!!!

Yatta!
09-03-2008, 05:16 PM
Finally drafted a team, standard NFL.com 12-team league.

QB: Peyton Manning, Jeff Garcia
RB: Marion Barber, Thomas Jones, LenDale White, Earnest Graham
WR: Wes Welker, Greg Jennings, Roddy White, Javon Walker, Jerry Porter
TE: Todd Heap
K: Rob Bironas
DST: Packers

Thoughts?

Bills2083
09-03-2008, 05:17 PM
On a non-bye week what do you guys think of this lineup?

QB Drew Brees
RB Thomas Jones
RB Matt Forte
WR TJ Houshmandzadeh
WR Steve Smith
WR Brandon Marshall
TE Chris Cooley
K Josh Scobee
DEF Dallas

RB looks a little weak. Also, arent Marshall and Smith suspended for the first game? Or was Smith just suspended for the first two preseason games?