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princefielder28
08-13-2008, 07:59 AM
1. The Giants will not repeat, make the playoffs

Eli Manning and the G-Men made a remarkable run last season as a wild card team in the NFC, but I have no reason to believe that they'll give themselves a chance to repeat or even make the playoffs at that. For starters, this team did not improve themselves in the off-season and I believe they took a step back, talent-wise, if anything. A team minus Strahan, Wilson, and Shockey does not scream improvement to me. Insert Tuck, Phillips, and Boss, who was the tight end in the Super Bowl stretch run, are now the replacements, and in Tuck's case, has to play every down, takes away from the depth behind starters, and will have to be a force on the run defense if he expects to have success. Also Kevin Boss is not a better option through a 16 game season than Shockey. Boss isn't the distraction that Shockey was, but he's not the caliber of player either. Boss needs to prove that he can hold up in the running game and become a consistent threat in the passing game to give help to out Eli. Away from personnel changes with the Giants, they play in the most difficult division in football, and if they run into injuries they won't be able to play through those like they may have last year because some of that depth is gone. Oh, I forgot, Eli has to prove he can be more than average QB for an entire season as well.

2. Patriots are the 2nd best team in football

Much like the Giants, this team is not better now than they were at the end of last season, and there are many concerns for me. The secondary is the most glaring weakness, and when you replace Asante Samuel with Fernando Bryant those question marks have to arise. When Ellis Hobbs is your most proven CB and James Sanders is starting opposite Rodney Harrison, there is room for error and when Brett Favre is in your division you better have some playmakers back there ;). Problem two is the aging LBs. Jerod Mayo was brought in, but how much longer will Mike Vrabel and Tedy Bruschi play at a high level? Depth on the defensive line could show it's little head if Warren, Wilfork, or Seymour go down. The defensive front seven is solid, but one or two injuries could really cripple this group. The offense is tough and the only question I have with them is Jabar Gaffney as the #3 WR. So who is #1? Enter the San Diego Chargers. A team that made it to the AFC Championship Game and lost to the Patriots, but the team was not at full strength. An offense built around the NFL's top player in LaDainian Tomlinson, arguably the best TE in Antonio Gates, underappreciated WR Chris Chambers, and inmproving, highly touted QB Philip Rivers. A defense with a tough front seven who can get to the QB and be disruptive. Head to a seconday where Antonio Cromartie is emerging as one of the league's elite at the position, and Jammer is not a bad #2 CB; rookie Antoine Cason is also back there. This team can score, shut you down defensively, and if they can get anything out of Clinton Hart and avoid injuries then watch out, and frankly I think they can be one hell of a team.

3. 8-8 will win the NFC West
Seattle, St. Louis, San Francisco, and Arizona make up probably the shakiest division in all of football. Seattle, who has dominated the division as of late, have numerous question marks offensively and will rely on a defense that got shredded in the NFC Divisional round against Green Bay to end last year. St. Louis doesn't have their stud back Steven Jackson in camp and without him they're dead because the defense is not even average. San Francisco has an improving defense, but when JT O'Sullivan has a chance to be your starting QB then you have serious problems. Arizona is the biggest wildcard of the group, and year in and year out they are always expected to be that team to make a jump into the postseason; this could very well be the year. Take into account the caliber of teams and then pair them up with 8 games against the AFC East and NFC East, and each team could easily lose 6 of those games. Pair these teams up 6 times and if a team can go 4-2, which is solid, then you have 8 loss teams with 2 games remianing. It's a realisitic possibility, and I don't believe it's a matter of whether or not it'll happen, it's which team will make it to that benchmark record.

4. David Garrard is nothing more than a game manager

18th in the league in passing yards, 11th in completion percentage, 15th in touchdown passes, and 21st in completions. Elite QB? No. Above average QB? ahhh maybe. Worth 20 million in guarantees? Hell no. David Garrard statistically and in reality is nothing more than a game manager who turns around, hands the ball off, and occasionally makes the short and simple pass. He fits the Jaguars style of play nicely, but people should not be saying that he is a Top 5 or even Top 10 QB. The top players at various positions are playmakers, not individuals who do what's good enough to get by. There will be a point in time where Garrard will be asked to do more and the Jags will pay the price because what he does now is about all he can do but in his defense he does it very well.

5. Fox's days are numbered

Carolina has not made the playoffs since 2005, and the last two seasons have been a roller coaster. If that roller coaster doesn't stop, and if John Fox can't get this team back on track then he'll be looking for a job at the end of the year. Factor in the Bucs and Saints, who appear to be more talented and have a better run at playoff spots, the Panthers seem like they'll be watching the playoffs at home for the third straight year and thus meaning the end of the John Fox era in Carolina.

6. Calvin to make the largest strides

The #2 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft will finally tap into that potential and thrive in year two. He battled numerous injuries in year one and was never able to solidify himself in the Lions offense. Enter a new offensive coordinator who wants to run the football more makes some think that he'll have fewer opportunities than when Martz was there, but I think he'll be able to create more mismatches with teams adding more men in the box to stop a rushing attatck that remains questionable for Detroit. Calvin is the #2 WR as well so he won't be going up against a team's #1 CB, and unfortunately for those corners he's got #1 abilities so watch out.

7. Brees for MVP

Reggie Bush, Marques Colston, Jeremy Shockey, Robert Meachem, and Devery Henderson aree the main guns in Brees' arsenal; go ahead pick one to stop, make that two. Drew Brees' ability to distribute the ball and make plays in Sean Payton's offense, makes him the front runner in this year's MVP race. Adding two threats in Meachem and Shockey to a QB who for over 4,400 yards and 28 TDs last season makes one wonder how high the sky really is for Brees and this offense. There's no doubt that the production will be there, and if this team can get into the playoffs, which I believe they can, then Brees can pretty much be a lock for the title of MVP. Success and stats are the largest benchmark for the award and he'll have both.

8. Raiders win most games since '02

Adding Darren McFadden, DeAngelo Hall, Gibril Wilson, and moving Michael Huff to his more natural position makes the Raiders an appealing team to improve. JaMarcus Russell will take over as the team's QB, and can give this offense more big play potential. The secondary may be the best in league and the linebackers are pretty solid. This team's biggest question marks come with the offense and defensive lines. Those units will ultimately hold them from reaching a high level, but won't prevent them from reaching the next level. They have the ability to reach six wins and build on that heading into 2009. If they can somehow find a way to build the lines up within the next two years then the Raiders can compete for a playoff spot, but until then I think 6 wins is a nice benchmark.

9. Browns reign almighty in North

The Browns posted a 10-6 record in '07 and suprised many. In '08 they will make that next step and get into the postseason due to their success and the misfortunes of others. The Browns have a highly skilled offense with an emerging superstar in Braylon Edwards and possibly the best LT/LG combo in the league with Thomas and Steinbach. The defense and specifically the secondary is the wildcard. They brought in Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams so their front seven is greatly inmproved. Eric Wright and Brandon McDonald have alot of pressure on them and they have the ability to do a manageable job, which that's all Cleveland is looking for at this point. The other side of the coin is the Steelers and their schedule. They are the only competition in the AFC North for the Browns, but unfortunately they have one of the most difficult schedules in the entire NFL. Week in and week out they will be tested and come the end of the year they won't have enough in the tank or enough wins to overtake the Browns and keep their title of AFC North Champion.

10. Chiefs are OTC

A young team with numerous holes, unproven QB, and scary bad offensive line does not scream success; possibly screams the least amount of success in the NFL this season. They are in rebuilding mode and Chiefs fans are aware of that so it won't be a great disappoinment if/when they are the worst team in the league. The #1 pick would give them the chance to grab their franchise QB and finally take the biggest step towards heading back to winning ways.

Playoff Thoughts

NFC
NFC East : Dallas Cowboys
NFC North : Minnesota Vikings
NFC South : New Orleans Saints
NFC West : Arizona Cardinals
Wildcard : Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Wildcard : Washington Redskins

AFC
AFC East : New England Patriots
AFC North : Cleveland Browns
AFC South : Indianapolis Colts
AFC West : San Diego Chargers
Wildcard : Jacksonville Jaguars
Wildcard : New York Jets

Super Bowl
San Diego Chargers over Dallas Cowboys

DeathbyStat
08-13-2008, 08:24 AM
PF28's 10 NFL Truths
1. The Giants will not repeat, make the playoffs-I agree


2. Patriots are the 2nd best team in football-I agree but their age on defense scares me once they hit the playoffs, but at worst they will go 13-3. Jerod Mayo has been a beast in pre season



3. 8-8 will win the NFC West-I agree and thats why the Rams and Cardinals have just as good of a shot of winning it than the seahawks do


4. David Garrard is nothing more than a game manager-he might be but it was only his first year as a starter last year and if a team runs the ball as well as the Jags do why would you want you QB to do anything by manage the game

5. Fox's days are numbered-Yes and Bill Cowher will take the job



6. Calvin to make the largest strides-I think so he has allready looked quite great in pre season

7. Brees for MVP-he has a really good shot at it if the Saints defense comes around and they have a reallly good record



8. Raiders win most games since '02-I agree they could push for a wild card



9. Browns reign almighty in North-Their schedule is brutal and their secondary still sucks. but they could win the division. With the rather hard schedule facing the AFC North teams the winner of the division will have a 9-7 or a 10-6 record



10. Chiefs are OTC-Yes and maybe they'll draft a real qb in next years draft

thule
08-13-2008, 08:37 AM
Way to go pf

I agree with #1

#2 is something I can see...but honestly I don't think SD is anything more than a paper team...yeah yeah I know they went to the AFC championship game...but I'm not sold on Rivers...and look forward to being proved wrong if is the case. I didn't know Cromartie was promoted to the LCB...last I checked he was the RCB...which would be the #2 CB...am I mistaken? SD is boarderline top 5 for me right now...and it has nothing to do with talent.

#3 I'm going to say Seattle breaks 8 wins. They have a very underrated defense and Hasselbeck will always be a above average starter....they have some WR concerns with Engram down...but I still have no problem with them winning 9 or 10 games in that division.

#4 Spot on with Garrard imo...nothing special...watching the Steelers game in the playoffs last year was where I think he was exploited a bit.

#5 I have no beefs here...Fox is in a tough spot...defense will have to step up big to take the wildcard.

#6 I'm not sure I like Calvin as the breakout sophmore....I'm going to go with my guy Ted Ginn Jr. Pennington probably won't get the best out of Ginn but Pennington is a competent QB that should be able to get the ball into his hands. On the defensive side of the ball watch out for Anthony Spencer this year...he is getting rave reviews...depending on how the playing time is split between him and Ellis I expect anywhere from 5-8 sacks from him this year.

#7 I have no problems giving the MVP to Brees...if the saints are contenders he is going to get his consideration....but last I checked Meachem wasn't even their third WR....has this changed in the past week?

#8 Oakland should be better don't think anyone can doubt that...esspecially with all the money shell'd out this offseason

#9 Browns have a brutal schedule as well as the Steelers...I just don't think they can win enough division games to take the north.

#10 I like the chiefs pick to go down...but a team I'm worried about is the Ravens...my darkhorse for worst team in the league.

AkiliSmith
08-13-2008, 08:58 AM
Garrard only played in 12 games last season, so your numbers are skewed a bit. He threw 18 touchdown and only 3 interceptions, in his first year as a starter, without a single player that resembled a #1 receiver. He'll be even better this season with Porter to throw to and another year under his belt. Very underrated IMO.

Also the Browns are horribly overrated.

thule
08-13-2008, 09:09 AM
Garrard only played in 12 games last season, so your numbers are skewed a bit. He threw 18 touchdown and only 3 interceptions, in his first year as a starter, without a single player that resembled a #1 receiver. He'll be even better this season with Porter to throw to and another year under his belt. Very underrated IMO.

Also the Browns are horribly overrated.

Porter and Williamson aren't even upgrades over the guys you had before them imo. But yes his TD to INT ratio was impressive...I want to see him work through his progession more this year...Del Rio really had a nice system for him which was a 1/2 read system with a check down to his stud backs...I want to see him work both sides of the field this year before I can even mention him among the top 10 QB's in the league.

LonghornsLegend
08-13-2008, 09:18 AM
You may be right about Fox, but your wrong about the Panthers, they are going to be a playoff team...There is always a surprise team, and its funny that all those years they were a superbowl favorite now their not even looked to make the playoffs, I think they win 10 games and challenge New Orleans for the division.

bored of education
08-13-2008, 09:21 AM
omgz Chiefs are OTC.

With the 1st pick in the 2009 NFL draft The Kanas City Chiefs select:


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7-UYvGv6zJk/RtwO0lbZtPI/AAAAAAAAETs/Pl-36fqcRUA/20070901_0073.JPG


Quarterback from the University of Georgia...MATT STAFFORD

princefielder28
08-13-2008, 09:25 AM
You may be right about Fox, but your wrong about the Panthers, they are going to be a playoff team...There is always a surprise team, and its funny that all those years they were a superbowl favorite now their not even looked to make the playoffs, I think they win 10 games and challenge New Orleans for the division.

I agree they are a talented squad but they have too many question marks, in my eyes. Jake Delhomme is coming off big time surgery and if he doesn't prove effective then they can be thrown right out of the equation. Their backfield has a ton of talent with DeAngelo and Stewart, but who are they going with, how will they rotate the backs? Steve Smith is suspended the first two games and they face the Chargers and Bears; two very good defenses and possible loses. Their defensive line has some holes and if Julius Peppers repeats last year's performance then the rest of the defense will suffer. They have a weak schedule so they can definitely put it together, but I just see them having too many inconsistencies to make a real run. It may not be John Fox's fault if they don't make it, but he'll be the outcast.

scottyboy
08-13-2008, 09:28 AM
the Giants won't make the playoffs?

holy ****, has ANYONE learned anything here? the Giants were supposed to be a top 10 pick lock last year, guess you guys were wrong there. We won the ******* Super Bowl! i just don't get it. it makes no sense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRsYROOO20w

"do you dare doubt us again?"

just wait guys, just wait...

drowe
08-13-2008, 09:33 AM
i agree with every point except the one regarding David Garrard. i don't think anybody is expecting him to turn into Peyton Manning this year..but, in his first full year as a starter, he did absolutely everything that was asked of him...with Reggie Williams as his best recieving target.

the game manager label is tricky..and Jax will still be a run first team. but, for a first year starter, i thought he was amazing last year.

CJSchneider
08-13-2008, 10:37 AM
Good Stuff, excellent read.

vidae
08-13-2008, 12:17 PM
omgz Chiefs are OTC.

With the 1st pick in the 2009 NFL draft The Kanas City Chiefs select:


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_7-UYvGv6zJk/RtwO0lbZtPI/AAAAAAAAETs/Pl-36fqcRUA/20070901_0073.JPG


Quarterback from the University of Georgia...MATT STAFFORD

Yes please! :D

ALD
08-13-2008, 01:06 PM
Just going to respond about the gmen before I continue reading but:

Shockey was almost criminally misused by Killdrive last season. Sure Shockey became one of the leagues best 2 way tight ends, blocking and receiving, as his blocking was down right dominant at many times last season but he's such an explosive receiver if you get him the ball and we just didn't. If he wasn't blocking he was out running as a decoy making space for our other receivers. So while we lost a great player, and a personal favorite, we didn't lose a huge part of our offense, so long as we can replace his blocking with a specialist.

And Strahan was a great leader and one of the best DEs of all time, however with age he lost a lot of his quickness which is why he also lost of weight to try and compensate, but he was still a lot less dynamic of a pass rusher. Now in our Base package Tuck will get involved and he's got all the goods to replace Strahan's performance there, and in our nickel package we'll be seeing a lot of kiwi, who missed much of our dominant stretch due to injury last season. So while again we lost a former stud we've got the young guys in position to replace his production.

Now I've loved Gibril since he came in his rookie year and was our only DB with hands at the ends of his arms, but he's a guy who was forced to play out of position by James Butler. Gibril is a top in the box safety, but in coverage he's JAG. Now replace that with Kenny Phillips who's just been lights out in camp flying around in coverage and hitting everything that moves, personally I'm expecting an improvement in production here.

Plus we've still got very good depth on D with versatile guys that will let Spags continue to hit offenses with a plethora of different fronts and packages.

Anyways that's my two cents on our 3 big losses.

PS I like how Phillip Rivers is improving and Highly touted while Eli has to prove he can be a great QB over an entire season. :-P

princefielder28
08-13-2008, 01:20 PM
PS I like how Phillip Rivers is improving and Highly touted while Eli has to prove he can be a great QB over an entire season. :-P

Rivers has led the Chargers to 11-5 and 14-2 seasons the last two years while putting up very respectable stats; Eli has had roller coaster seasons with one impressive postseason, not consistent yet.

ALD
08-13-2008, 01:37 PM
Rivers has led the Chargers to 11-5 and 14-2 seasons the last two years while putting up very respectable stats; Eli has had roller coaster seasons with one impressive postseason, not consistent yet.

Eli's led the giants to the playoffs in one of the toughest divisions since his first year as a starter, despite some astonishingly bad co-ordinators and lockerroom drama.

Plus if you take out all the balls he forced deep because that was Hufnagel's...don't really want to call it a plan because Hufnagel didn't have a plan, but hairy brained scheme gives him too much credit also...and could've just let his playmakers do the dirty work he'd be putting up rivers-esque stats also. I hear what your saying but I just think the extrenuating circumstances around his play were a huge reason for his inconsistent, now that he's getting to work with a decent OC for consecutive season I see a lot of reason to believe his consistency will drastically improve.

princefielder28
08-13-2008, 01:38 PM
Added this.....

Playoff Thoughts

NFC
NFC East : Dallas Cowboys
NFC North : Minnesota Vikings
NFC South : New Orleans Saints
NFC West : Arizona Cardinals
Wildcard : Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Wildcard : Washington Redskins

AFC
AFC East : New England Patriots
AFC North : Cleveland Browns
AFC South : Indianapolis Colts
AFC West : San Diego Chargers
Wildcard : Jacksonville Jaguars
Wildcard : New York Jets

Super Bowl
San Diego Chargers over Dallas Cowboys

ALD
08-13-2008, 01:42 PM
Added this.....

Playoff Thoughts

NFC
NFC East : Dallas Cowboys
NFC North : Minnesota Vikings
NFC South : New Orleans Saints
NFC West : Arizona Cardinals
Wildcard : Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Wildcard : Washington Redskins

AFC
AFC East : New England Patriots
AFC North : Cleveland Browns
AFC South : Indianapolis Colts
AFC West : San Diego Chargers
Wildcard : Jacksonville Jaguars
Wildcard : New York Jets

Super Bowl
San Diego Chargers over Dallas Cowboys

I could see that, although I'd have the Bills, Steelers and Giants instead of the Jets, Browns and Bucs.

Crickett
08-13-2008, 02:12 PM
1. The Giants will not repeat, make the playoffs

Eli Manning and the G-Men made a remarkable run last season as a wild card team in the NFC, but I have no reason to believe that they'll give themselves a chance to repeat or even make the playoffs at that. For starters, this team did not improve themselves in the off-season and I believe they took a step back, talent-wise, if anything. A team minus Strahan, Wilson, and Shockey does not scream improvement to me.

No, the Giants did not improve. In fact, they got worse. But last year they won the Superbowl. To say they don't even have a chance to make the playoffs? Thats a bit too much IMO. Boss certainly was a relaible target for Eli in the playoffs and the run game didn't suffer a whole lot last year when Shockey got injured.

As for the injuries argument, I'll just say this now. Given enough injures and any team in the league will miss the playoffs.


I'll say this about David Gerrard. I'd agree with you if Gerrard didn't have total **** at wide receiver. Jerry Porter was brought in to be the first really legitimate passing threat the Jaguars have had since Jimmy Smith. Aaaaaaaaaaand he promptly went on injured reserve IIRC.


I think you're right about John Fox which is a shame because I am a fan of his and think he's a very good coach.

ALD
08-13-2008, 02:14 PM
We "got worse" last offseason also. :rolleyes:

yourfavestoner
08-13-2008, 02:30 PM
During the second half of the season, the Jags were the second best scoring offense in the NFL. If that's what a game manager does, then I'm more than happy with that.

Geo
08-13-2008, 02:39 PM
1. The Giants will not repeat, make the playoffs
Bold, but I only agree with the first part. The Giants and another NFC East team, my guess the Iggles, will earn the wild card spots in the NFC. They're just too good on both sides of the ball, with experienced quarterbacks (although I'd rather have Eli than McNabb).

2. Patriots are the 2nd best team in football
Honestly, I'd put them at third behind the Chargers and Colts. However it must not be overlooked that homefield in the playoffs gives them a definite boost, and the Patriots have one of the easiest schedules in the league if not the easiest. That said though, I don't think HFA will be enough this year to cover their awful secondary to get through the AFC. Hopes are placed on 1st round pick Brandon Meriweather, and I don't think he is going to be great if not even good. Last year, Belichick put him in position to make a half-dozen plays at least and he didn't come through at all. Another lame draft pick by the current Pats regime.

3. 8-8 will win the NFC West
You are selling Seattle short, especially as sweeping the bottom-feeding 49ers and Rams gives them 4 wins right tere. They will repeat as division champs with at least 9, maybe 10 wins imo. If the Cards would bench Matt Leinart for the far superior quarterback in Kurt Warner, they would have a greater chance.

4. David Garrard is nothing more than a game manager
Major disagreement here, I really like Garrard. He's accurate and can deliver the ball around the field, he makes plays. The best thing he did from 2006 was cut down the turnovers, and now just needs to stay healthy. This guy is worth the money, unlike say Marc Bulger who lost all heart and desire after cashing in a huge payday.

5. Fox's days are numbered
If the Panthers don't have a winning season, I would definitely agree. Personally I would have already fired John Fox a while ago, I don't think he's a good head coach (defensive coordinator probably a different story). But I can see why he and the general manager are going all-in for this season, because they are hoping for a good season to keep them employed and then Bill Cowher to take a job elsewhere this summer. So even if they regress in 2009, at least Cowher won't be there waiting.

7. Brees for MVP
I don't buy it, but then again I didn't buy the Brees for MVP talk in 2006. Peyton will do more like he always has compared to Brees, and Brady will probably too with Moss and Welker leading the way.

8. Raiders win most games since '02
Agreed, although Rob Ryan had better deliver as the defensive coordinator with all the talent he has, and Jamarcus Russell needs to put his much ballyhooed arm to use and make plays because the offense will see a whole lot of 8 men in the box.

9. Browns reign almighty in North
You thought 8-8 could win the NFC West, I think something close to 8-8 could win the AFC North. Every team has a major Achilles heel and a tough schedule.

diabsoule
08-13-2008, 02:42 PM
#7 I have no problems giving the MVP to Brees...if the saints are contenders he is going to get his consideration....but last I checked Meachem wasn't even their third WR....has this changed in the past week?



Sean Payton hasn't gone out and said who the #2 is going to be but the competition is between Meachem and Patten and right now Meachem is in the lead. Adrian Arrington was making a strong push before he got turf toe.

T-RICH49
08-13-2008, 03:12 PM
I don't see KC having the top pick.top 10?yes but not the top overall pick

Geo
08-13-2008, 03:16 PM
When the second-best receiving option on your team is undecided between Jeremy Shockey and Reggie Bush, you're not going to outdo Peyton Manning and now Tom Brady thanks to Moss and Welker for MVP honors. Brees corraled the sheep once already in 2006, Manning was more valuable, and I don't expect it to happen twice in three years.

Saints fans know I'm a big supporter of their team, though.

Crickett
08-13-2008, 03:19 PM
I don't see KC having the top pick.top 10?yes but not the top overall pick

I heard Brandon Albert got injured, but I didn't hear anything past that because everyone was so focused on Glenn Dorsey. Whats the story there?

ALD
08-13-2008, 03:21 PM
When the second-best receiving option on your team is undecided between Jeremy Shockey and Reggie Bush, you're not going to outdo Peyton Manning and now Tom Brady thanks to Moss and Welker for MVP honors. Brees corraled the sheep once already in 2006, Manning was more valuable, and I don't expect it to happen twice in three years.

Saints fans know I'm a big supporter of their team, though.

Brees was prolific with Gates as his #1 option, you think having Shockey as his #2 with Bush, Meachum, Arrington and Henderson he can't do even more damage?

Crickett
08-13-2008, 03:26 PM
Brees was prolific with Gates as his #1 option, you think having Shockey as his #2 with Bush, Meachum, Arrington and Henderson he can't do even more damage?

He was also prolific with an over the hill Joe Horn (or Reggie Bush if thats how you want to look at it) as his #2 option.

ALD
08-13-2008, 03:28 PM
He was also prolific with an over the hill Joe Horn (or Reggie Bush if thats how you want to look at it) as his #2 option.

Truth. If Brees doesn't win MVP it won't be due to a lack of weapons, unless the saints get decimated by injuries, it'll be because he wasn't completely dominant and someone else was.

princefielder28
08-13-2008, 03:37 PM
[i][b][color="blue"]3. 8-8 will win the NFC West
You are selling Seattle short, especially as sweeping the bottom-feeding 49ers and Rams gives them 4 wins right tere. They will repeat as division champs with at least 9, maybe 10 wins imo. If the Cards would bench Matt Leinart for the far superior quarterback in Kurt Warner, they would have a greater chance.



Seattle's offense is less than stellar with Burleson and Taylor as their starting WRs with Jones and Morris splitting carries. Their O-Line isn't the greatest so if the receivers can't create separation then Hasselbeck will get the **** beat out of him. They are relying heavily on their defense, and the last time that unit stepped out onto the field they gave up 42 points in a playoff game. If they fall behind early in their games, it could end up being a long season.

Geo
08-13-2008, 03:40 PM
Good thing for them there's no offense in the division near as good as the 2007 Packers with Ryan Grant at RB.

princefielder28
08-13-2008, 03:42 PM
Good thing for them there's no offense in the division near as good as the 2007 Packers with Ryan Grant at RB.

The Cardinals will be able to put up points against them and the Rams offense, with Steven Jackson, should be able to score as well. You have to admit that their offense is a big time problem.

Geo
08-13-2008, 03:47 PM
The first four weeks of the Seahawks season:

Week 1 at Buffalo. Could go either way, Hasselbeck will be hampered with no experienced weapons other than Burleson, but the Bills offense is looking lame to me.

Week 2 vs. San Francisco + Week 3 vs. St. Louis. First two division games, but they are at home where the Hawks play very well (especially defensively). I have no doubt whatsoever that they will take are of business in both games, both the 49ers and Rams aren't good.

Week 4 Bye. The bye comes early, but it might be a blessing as #1 receiver Bobby Engram coud be back in time for the rest of the season.

ALD
08-13-2008, 03:50 PM
The first four weeks of the Seahawks season:

Week 1 at Buffalo. Could go either way, Hasselbeck will be hampered with no experienced weapons other than Burleson, but the Bills offense is looking lame to me.

Week 2 vs. San Francisco + Week 3 vs. St. Louis. First two division games, but they are at home where the Hawks play very well (especially defensively). I have no doubt whatsoever that they will take are of business in both games, both the 49ers and Rams aren't good.

Week 4 Bye. The bye comes early, but it might be a blessing as #1 receiver Bobby Engram coud be back in time for the rest of the season.

Between the Bills running game, the explosiveness of Lee Evans, the hops of James Hardy and great special teams the bills should put enough points on the board to make seattle have to actually make some palys against the bills D.

Geo
08-13-2008, 03:53 PM
I root for the Bills dearly, they are the team of my youth, but I'm not expecting a big year for Evans in the current offense. And don't get me wrong, I don't want that incompetent twit Losman back in as the starter.

The Bills offense basically has Marshawn Lynch pound his career away against three tacklers for four yards, and hopes Trent Edwards can move the chains with accurate passes to Roscoe "Chicken and Waffles" Parrish and Josh Reed. James Hardy will not be a factor in the first week of the season, he's too raw.

ALD
08-13-2008, 03:56 PM
I root for the Bills dearly, they are the team of my youth, but I'm not expecting a big year for Evans in the current offense. And don't get me wrong, I don't want that incompetent twit Losman back in as the starter.

The Bills offense basically has Marshawn Lynch pound his career away against three tacklers for four yards, and hopes Trent Edwards can move the chains with accurate passes to Roscoe "Chicken and Waffles" Parrish and Josh Reed. James Hardy will not be a factor in the first week of the season, he's too raw.

you're forgetting about Fred Jackson's impact as the scatback/CoP back. As for the passing game why do you think Roscoe and Reed are going to have more of an impact than Evans?

And don't confuse what I'm saying with me thinking the bills will be explosive of anything, just saying they'll put up enough points to make a team have to beat it's defense and between the lack of receiving weapons and rushing options I just don't think seattle has much firepower at all.

Geo
08-13-2008, 04:14 PM
I think you're missing the main point though, that I am agreeing with you. As I said in the first post, I think the Seahawks @ Bills game can go either way. Especially as it's played in Buffalo.

ALD
08-13-2008, 04:18 PM
I think you're missing the main point though, that I am agreeing with you. As I said in the first post, I think the Seahawks @ Bills game can go either way. Especially as it's played in Buffalo.

I doubt we agree as you yourself labeled the bills offense as lame in your eyes, which is a defensible position, just happens to be one I disagree with.

BlindSite
08-13-2008, 06:06 PM
5. Fox's days are numbered

Carolina has not made the playoffs since 2005, and the last two seasons have been a roller coaster. If that roller coaster doesn't stop, and if John Fox can't get this team back on track then he'll be looking for a job at the end of the year. Factor in the Bucs and Saints, who appear to be more talented and have a better run at playoff spots, the Panthers seem like they'll be watching the playoffs at home for the third straight year and thus meaning the end of the John Fox era in Carolina.

Compared to last year:

QB Delhomme / Moore >>> Carr / Testaverde
RB Williams / Stewart >> Foster / Williams
TE Rosario / King / Barnidge = King / Rosario / Fauria
WR Smith / Muhummad / Hackett / Jarrett >>>> Smith / Colbert / Carter
OT Gross / Otah > Wharton / Gross
OL Wharton / Kalil / Vincent >>> Wahle / Hangartner / Mathis

DE - Peppers (healthy) / Brayton > Peppers (ill / injured) / Rucker
DT - Lewis / Kemo / Walker = Jenkins / Kemo
LB - Beason / Davis / Diggs > Morgan / Davis / Diggs
CB - No change
S - Harris / Godfrey >> Harris / anyone with legs and a helmet

This year's schedule is far easier. Failing a rash of injuries there is no way Carolina has a losing season this year.

bigbluedefense
08-15-2008, 07:04 PM
great thread.

I disagree on Fox. I have a feeling the panthers are back in a big way this year, largely to an underrated defense. they'll fight the Saints for the South.

princefielder28
09-08-2008, 11:13 AM
some good things and bad things so far with my truths

Smooth Criminal
09-08-2008, 11:19 AM
Some things look good, others look way off. Obviously you ignore everything about Tom Brady and the Pats. NFC West is as pathetic as advertised. NYG looked like a playoff team. Cleveland didn't look like the class of the north. SD definately didn't look like the best team in the league. John Fox looks like he could buy some time if he keeps this up. Brees didn't look MVP like, but he looked good.

But really, its week 1. Lets look at this at the end of the year.