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LonghornsLegend
08-19-2008, 10:34 PM
Saw this question posed on another site so I wanted to see here if anyone knew...And the better question is whens the next time we see it happen again.

619
08-19-2008, 10:37 PM
I have no idea but I know Nick Goings was very close in '04 when the Panthers suffered a huge slew of injuries to their backs.

TimD
08-19-2008, 10:42 PM
the next is sam mcguffie haha

TheBuffaloBills
08-19-2008, 10:44 PM
Jordy Nelson will break it on screen plays..... Just watch....

Vikings4ever
08-19-2008, 10:47 PM
John Riggins

619
08-19-2008, 10:50 PM
John Riggins

Yeah, that would be my guess as well .

Sniper
08-19-2008, 10:51 PM
the next is sam mcguffie haha

McGuffie Hurdle FTW!

A Perfect Score
08-19-2008, 10:51 PM
MIKE ALSTOTT! ok, maybe he never went for over 1000 but he is by far the coolest white back ever

and then next one will be the one, the only, Brian Leonard

jballa838
08-19-2008, 10:52 PM
quit going to castefootball man. And I have no clue. and next will be Hester.

BRAVEHEART
08-19-2008, 10:53 PM
Saw this question posed on another site so I wanted to see here if anyone knew...And the better question is whens the next time we see it happen again.

It'll happen when there are more white RB's. Hopefully if McGuffie becomes successful it'll encourage more white kids to play tailback.

619
08-19-2008, 10:55 PM
MIKE ALSTOTT! ok, maybe he never went for over 1000 but he is by far the coolest white back ever

and then next one will be the one, the only, Brian Leonard

Damn you, I was gonna mention him. In all seriousness Leonard is as good a candidate as there is right now. Also bring Jesse Lumsden to the NFL !

BRAVEHEART
08-19-2008, 10:56 PM
Damn you, I was gonna mention him. In all seriousness Leonard is as good a candidate as there is right now. Also bring Jesse Lumsden to the NFL !

that dude is sorry.

TheBuffaloBills
08-19-2008, 10:58 PM
Yeah I could see Hester doing it if LT goes down...... Thats possible

Cribbs>Hester
08-19-2008, 10:59 PM
It is actually Craig James of the Patriots. He ran for over 1200 yards. John Riggins last 1000 yard season came the year prior when he also went for 1200 yards.

Obviously the best chances right now would be Brian Leonard and Jacob Hester just because they're the only white backs in the NFL right now with that type of talent. I would give the edge to Jacob Hester actually because Stephen Jackson is a lot younger than LT and will play longer draining Leonards chance at carries.

Oh James did it in 1985 and Riggins was 1984, so it has been 22 years of football without a White back over 1000 yards and i'd say it is a 99.9% chance this year will be the 23rd year in a row.

Im_a_Romosexual
08-19-2008, 11:01 PM
Lendale White :P

TimD
08-19-2008, 11:02 PM
McGuffie Hurdle FTW!

its a shame im a penn state fan now. bring on coastal carolina!

eaglesfan_45
08-19-2008, 11:18 PM
Brian Leonard will be the next you watch! But turn your head when Scottyboy finds out. You've been warned.

If S-Jax misses this season leonard could do it.

Sniper
08-19-2008, 11:29 PM
its a shame im a penn state fan now. bring on coastal carolina!

Dude you can't just flip-flop, you ******* flipper-flopper. I hate you forever now.

Caddy
08-19-2008, 11:48 PM
Brian Leonard will be the next you watch! But turn your head when Scottyboy finds out. You've been warned.

If S-Jax misses this season leonard could do it.

We are all in a lot of trouble if Leonard rushes for over 1000 yards. The 'explosion' could destroy the whole planet.

619
08-19-2008, 11:50 PM
We are all in a lot of trouble if Leonard rushes for over 1000 yards. The 'explosion' could destroy the whole planet.

Jordyzzz Nelsonzzzzz would become extinct .

TimD
08-20-2008, 12:36 AM
but seriously who was the last white rb to do it? im curious

Strongside
08-20-2008, 12:48 AM
Craig James '85' Patriots 1,227 yards

Also bring Jesse Lumsden to the NFL !

Agreed

Twiddler
08-20-2008, 12:51 AM
Craig James '85' Patriots 1,227 yards

Damnit to hell, I was just going to post that. Hahaha, good work.

EDIT: Nevermind, Cribbs>Hester had the answer up a day ago.

etk
08-20-2008, 12:53 AM
Brian Leonard couldn't do it. Sorry scottyboy.

Jacob Hester EASILY could. I'm going to assume that either by injury or free agency, Hester gets a starting gig and does it in the next 5-7 years

duckseason
08-20-2008, 12:55 AM
Depending on your definition of "white," Justin Fargas did it last year.

yo123
08-20-2008, 12:56 AM
Depending on your definition of "white," Justin Fargas did it last year.

Or Robert Smith.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/images/football/nfl/players/2351.jpg

YAYareaRB
08-20-2008, 12:57 AM
Luke Staley..












in college

Twiddler
08-20-2008, 01:00 AM
Depending on your definition of "white," Justin Fargas did it last year.

Considering who his dad is, I'm not sure he falls under "white". But he's close, at least as close as we'll get to a white running back going over 1000 yards, ha.

YAYareaRB
08-20-2008, 01:06 AM
Robert Smith was pretty bad.

duckseason
08-20-2008, 01:07 AM
Considering who his dad is, I'm not sure he falls under "white". But he's close, at least as close as we'll get to a white running back going over 1000 yards, ha.

Considering who his mom is, I'm not sure he falls too far out of the description of "white."

I think it's funny how whenever anybody is half white and half something else, they're always considered the something else. Imo, Justin Fargas is just as white as he is anything else.

etk
08-20-2008, 01:08 AM
Robert Smith was pretty bad.

I liked him in Madden 2002 :(.

CashmoneyDrew
08-20-2008, 01:08 AM
Considering who his mom is, I'm not sure he falls too far out of the description of "white."

I think it's funny how whenever anybody is half white and half something else, they're always considered the something else. Imo, Justin Fargas is just as white as he is anything else.

Yeah, I've always wondered the same thing.

kalbears13
08-20-2008, 01:09 AM
Lendale White :P

Romosexual wins!

yo123
08-20-2008, 01:09 AM
Robert Smith was pretty bad.

Huh? During his prime he was an excellent RB.

CashmoneyDrew
08-20-2008, 01:12 AM
Huh? During his prime he was an excellent RB.

Depending on context and users intent, bad can mean good sometimes. Jeez get a clue honkey.

Brent
08-20-2008, 01:19 AM
Craig James '85' Patriots 1,227 yards
Merril Hoge came close in 1990 with 203 attempts and 772 yards.

CashmoneyDrew
08-20-2008, 01:21 AM
Merril Hoge can kiss my white, man-sized ass.

Brent
08-20-2008, 01:26 AM
man-sized ass.
what the hell qualifies as "man-sized"?

CashmoneyDrew
08-20-2008, 01:28 AM
what the hell qualifies as "man-sized"?

The fact that I'm a man, and I have an ass.

eaglesalltheway
08-20-2008, 07:17 AM
Merril Hoge can kiss my white, man-sized ass.

I'm glad someone else feels the same way I do about Hodge. The man is an ass.

eaglesalltheway
08-20-2008, 07:17 AM
And yes, my ass, does qualify

NY+Giants=NYG
08-20-2008, 09:00 AM
Speaking of color, is Brett Favre the first white football player on the cover of madden, excluding madden himself? I can't remember any other one.

Caddy
08-20-2008, 09:05 AM
Speaking of color, is Brett Favre the first white football player on the cover of madden, excluding madden himself? I can't remember any other one.

Favre is the first.

Modano
08-20-2008, 09:10 AM
Depending on your definition of "white," Justin Fargas did it last year.

A friend of mine has a good definition of "white" and "black" (especially regarding basketball), but I'm not sure I would be able to explain it in english :P

NY+Giants=NYG
08-20-2008, 09:13 AM
Favre is the first.

That's suprising, considering Brady and Payton Manning are hall of famers.

Brent
08-20-2008, 09:41 AM
That's suprising, considering Brady and Payton Manning are hall of famers.
I'm pretty sure they have both turned down being on the cover.

Dam8610
08-20-2008, 09:46 AM
I'm pretty sure they have both turned down being on the cover.

Manning had a deal with NFL Fever to be their exclusive cover athlete for about 3-4 years, so Madden probably gave up on him being ever being on the cover of that game.

jared
08-20-2008, 10:53 AM
I think Hester is most likely to accomplish that feat. Hester has better vision than Leonard and he's in a better situation. I would say Leonard is a long shot, though not for lack of athletic ability. I think the Rams are already toying with the idea of making him fulltime fullback (because bulldozing linebackers is obviously his strong suit {eye roll}). Either way, he's on a team with a lame duck coach and if history has taught me anything, it's that new coaching regimes spell doom for white RB's (see also: Brock Forsey, Luke Staley, Mike Alstott, Merril Hoge, et al).

stephenson86
08-20-2008, 10:58 AM
riggins....quite a while ago i believe

stephenson86
08-20-2008, 10:59 AM
how are we defining white, is it both parents are white? or they "look" white?

Cribbs>Hester
08-20-2008, 11:05 AM
how are we defining white, is it both parents are white? or they "look" white?


I don't know that it would be fair to call someone white if they have a black parent at all. If that is the case I belive Kellen Winslow Jr.'s mom is white which would make him undoubtably the freakishly athletic white guy of all time. 6'4 250 and that athletic is not even fair. I'm a buck 40 on a good day and wasn't even that athletic in my younger years.

stephenson86
08-20-2008, 11:07 AM
IMO being white means you are of white origins i.e both your parents are white

so on that basis im pretty sure its john riggins

jared
08-20-2008, 11:07 AM
It is actually Craig James of the Patriots. He ran for over 1200 yards. John Riggins last 1000 yard season came the year prior when he also went for 1200 yards.

Obviously the best chances right now would be Brian Leonard and Jacob Hester just because they're the only white backs in the NFL right now with that type of talent. I would give the edge to Jacob Hester actually because Stephen Jackson is a lot younger than LT and will play longer draining Leonards chance at carries.


This is the correct answer, there shouldn't be any more speculation. Though Alstott came really close in 1999 (949 yards). I disagree that Hester and Leonard are the only two with that kind of talent right now though. I think Peyton Hillis and Heath Evans could easily do it as well. Hillis especially would be perfect in Denver, I think he's the most talented running back on the roster. Too bad the coaches there don't seem to see him as anything more than a super athletic battering ram.

bored of education
08-20-2008, 11:09 AM
I think Robert Smith was half white?

Addict
08-20-2008, 11:39 AM
lol I spend too much time on 4chan, I thought the topic was 'LenDale white to rush for over 9000 yards'

I have no life.

eaglesfan_45
08-20-2008, 11:44 AM
I think Hester is most likely to accomplish that feat. Hester has better vision than Leonard and he's in a better situation. I would say Leonard is a long shot, though not for lack of athletic ability. I think the Rams are already toying with the idea of making him fulltime fullback (because bulldozing linebackers is obviously his strong suit {eye roll}). Either way, he's on a team with a lame duck coach and if history has taught me anything, it's that new coaching regimes spell doom for white RB's (see also: Brock Forsey, Luke Staley, Mike Alstott, Merril Hoge, et al).

Oh, how soon we forget how much better of a prospect Leonard was. Leonard was chosen rd.2. In some of Scott's mock drafts, he was in rd.1. On Jacob Hester's scouring report Scott said he was a "poor man's Brian Leonard". Jacob Hester was chosen early and was clearly a reach by the Chargers. Hester is not superior to Brian Leonard. Hester will not be replacing Ladanian Tomlinson, and if he does, well then something went wrong in San Diego.

Also no Scotty Boy outburst yet? :confused:

jared
08-20-2008, 11:48 AM
Oh, how soon we forget how much better of a prospect Leonard was. Leonard was chosen rd.2. In some of Scott's mock drafts, he was in rd.1. On Jacob Hester's scouring report Scott said he was a "poor man's Brian Leonard". Jacob Hester was chosen early and was clearly a reach by the Chargers. Hester is not superior to Brian Leonard. Hester will not be replacing Ladanian Tomlinson, and if he does, well then something went wrong in San Diego.

Also no Scotty Boy outburst yet? :confused:

If anybody on this forum (besides Scotty Boy) remembers Brian Leonard, it's me. I said I think Hester has better vision and that he's in a better situation, big difference. Leonard is a better athlete and has all the talent in the world to be a starting tailback and eclipse 1000 yards. But I guarantee he never will be. After this season, he'll be lucky to get more than 30 carries in a season. I hope I'm wrong though.

Punisher
08-20-2008, 11:51 AM
To the poster(s) before Brett Favre is the 2nd caucasian on Madden, with Chris Hovan being the 1st.

eaglesfan_45
08-20-2008, 11:54 AM
If anybody on this forum (besides Scotty Boy) remembers Brian Leonard, it's me. I said I think Hester has better vision and that he's in a better situation, big difference. Leonard is a better athlete and has all the talent in the world to be a starting tailback and eclipse 1000 yards. But I guarantee he never will be. After this season, he'll be lucky to get more than 30 carries in a season. I hope I'm wrong though.

Big differecnce? Whats the difference? Hester is more likely to rush for 1000 yards? WTF makes you think that? He is in a worse situation than Leonard, he is stuck behind Ladanian Tomilinson, a hall of fame RB. Meanwhile, on the Rams, Leonard might start at RB this season if Steven Jackson holds-out into the regular season, which could happen because he only has to play 8 games to be a UFA. Leonard>Hester.

eaglesfan_45
08-20-2008, 11:55 AM
To the poster(s) before Brett Favre is the 2nd caucasian on Madden, with Chris Hovan being the 1st.

look at you being all politically correct :D

jared
08-20-2008, 12:01 PM
Nevermind. I just realized the futility of repeating my arguments to someone with a negative reputation in the quadruple digits.

Cribbs>Hester
08-20-2008, 12:10 PM
Big differecnce? Whats the difference? Hester is more likely to rush for 1000 yards? WTF makes you think that? He is in a worse situation than Leonard, he is stuck behind Ladanian Tomilinson, a hall of fame RB. Meanwhile, on the Rams, Leonard might start at RB this season if Steven Jackson holds-out into the regular season, which could happen because he only has to play 8 games to be a UFA. Leonard>Hester.


LaDainian Tomlinson is also 29 while Stephen Jackson is just 25

Jacob Hester, although I think Leonard is more talent, easily has the advantage to seeing more carries in the near future. Jackson is going to be getting 90% of St. Louis's carriers for the next 6-7 years while Tomlinson only has 2-3 years left, therefore, Hester will get his time to shine much sooner. That is if he proves he can handle being a tailback in the next 2-3 year while Tomlinson is still playing.

Someone brought up Peyton Hillis too. I completely forgot about him going to Denver, but you can never rule our someone with that much talent playing in their system.

eaglesfan_45
08-20-2008, 12:10 PM
Nevermind. I just realized the futility of repeating my arguments to someone with a negative reputation in the quadruple digits.


lol, what, are you smarter than me just because I have -rep? are your opinions better than mine just because I have -rep? If you were here more often, you would know why I have this -rep and it isn't because of lack of football knowledge. You're ignorant.

You made it seem as if Jacob Hester was far superior to Brian Leonard and that Brian Leonard had no shot while Hester was going to do it for sure. Well, it appears that you've been living in a cave, and in case you didn't know the Chargers drafted Hester and fyi the Chargers also have Ladanian Tomlinson otherwise known as the #1 RB in the NFL. You also said that Leonard would be lucky to get 30 carries? Leonard will be starting the first few Rams games and could start up to the first 8. So...

I can be a condescending **** just like you! What makes you f'n special? huh? why are YOU the only one who remembers Brian Leonard as a prospect?

619
08-20-2008, 01:26 PM
This thread is pointless. I'm white but why the hell should I care who the last white RB to rush for 1000+ yards ??? Seriously .

locseti
08-20-2008, 01:36 PM
Justin Fargas 2007

619
08-20-2008, 01:41 PM
Justin Fargas 2007

There ya go I'm sure he qualifies .

CC.SD
08-20-2008, 01:43 PM
This Hester/Leonard stuff is ridiculous. Hester will be spending most of his time as an H-Back, I'd bet dollars to dimes he finishes the year with more yards receiving than carrying.

He's been carrying it in the preseason a lot because, well, no LT, but I've been to plenty of practices during camp and they line him up all over and let him catch the screen/checkdown. He's got very very soft hands.

awfullyquiet
08-20-2008, 01:50 PM
who the **** cares.
seriously.

in 50 years a greater majority of us in america will be interracial. at what point does it cease to matter?

CC.SD
08-20-2008, 02:01 PM
who the **** cares.
seriously.

in 50 years a greater majority of us in america will be interracial. at what point does it cease to matter?

Ebony,

and Ivooooory...

LonghornsLegend
08-20-2008, 02:22 PM
This thread is pointless. I'm white but why the hell should I care who the last white RB to rush for 1000+ yards ??? Seriously .

You shouldn't have to care, I was actually curious who it was since I have been watching football I didn't really remember since it hasn't happened in a long time.

CC.SD
08-20-2008, 02:25 PM
You shouldn't have to care, I was actually curious who it was since I have been watching football I didn't really remember since it hasn't happened in a long time.

Fargas totally counts.

eaglesfan_45
08-20-2008, 02:31 PM
that's actually almost completely incorrect. your rep was in the toilet precisely because you lack football knowledge. whatever you've done since then to "enhance" that reputation is your own fault. regardless, on most boards, rep is an indication of poster quality. so if you're actually dumb enough to intentionally lower yours, you should be prepared for the vast majority of users to immediately rule out what appears to be (and often actually is) a crap opinion.

Not true rep was crap due the IRC guys rep rapeing me, now, after that I just don't care anymore.

Also, I don't really care, that guy was just being a jerk and being completeley and utterly arrogant and igonorant.

TJacobs41
08-20-2008, 02:31 PM
i think it was fargis last year

Rjspartan
08-20-2008, 02:35 PM
i think it was fargis last year
he was
he had 1009 yards

BRAVEHEART
08-20-2008, 02:37 PM
Hester is an embarrassment at the HB position. Leonard is the only one worthy right now. I wouldn't mind if Detroit had him right now and he shared carries with Kevin Smith.

B-Dawk
08-20-2008, 02:44 PM
fargas counts, if by white you mean not black, because fargas is hispanic

MetSox17
08-20-2008, 03:54 PM
fargas counts, if by white you mean not black, because fargas is hispanic

And by Hispanic you mean Puerto Rican.

CC.SD
08-20-2008, 04:18 PM
And by Hispanic you mean Puerto Rican.

and by Puerto Rican you mean Trojan.

scottyboy
08-20-2008, 04:23 PM
honestly? Jacob Hester over Leonard? Leonard's got the strength, athleticism and to most peoples surprise, the speed to turn the corner. He's way ahead of Hester. Hester has better vision but isn't the physical specimen Leonard is.

Vision won't help when there's a guy going low on you in the open field, a 1200 foot vertical, does.

Just watch, if SJax gets hurt and Leonard starts, BAM 1000 yard right there

eaglesfan_45
08-20-2008, 04:24 PM
honestly? Jacob Hester over Leonard? Leonard's got the strength, athleticism and to most peoples surprise, the speed to turn the corner. He's way ahead of Hester. Hester has better vision but isn't the physical specimen Leonard is.

Vision won't help when there's a guy going low on you in the open field, a 1200 foot vertical, does.

Just watch, if SJax gets hurt and Leonard starts, BAM 1000 yard right there

well its about time, we've been expecting you

BRAVEHEART
08-20-2008, 04:27 PM
and by Puerto Rican you mean Trojan.

and by trojan you mean wolverine...and by wolverine I mean Starsky and Hutch.

the dude
08-20-2008, 06:38 PM
justin fargas' dad played huggy bear on starsky and hutch

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n281/Anders_skak/antoniosld3.jpg

BlindSite
08-20-2008, 07:13 PM
Leonard is the next great white hope.