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Paranoidmoonduck
08-26-2008, 02:58 AM
You know the deal...

Trade:
Arizona sends their 2009 1st and 3rd and their 2010 3rd to San Francisco for the 49ers 2009 1st.


1. Detroit Lions : Matthew Stafford* : Quarterback : Georgia
If Detroit suffers a season like this, who knows where that team is. Marinelli might well be gone, and along with him that Tampa 2 defense. Even the amazingly resilient Matt Millen could find himself in look of a job. No matter where this team sits, I don’t think anybody on the roster could be confused for a franchise passer. Stafford, in terms of production, is a ways away from being worth the top pick of the draft, but the skills are there in excess and the situation looks right.

2. Kansas City Chiefs : Michael Oher : Offensive Tackle : Mississippi
I’m sure the Chiefs would have loved to take a shot at Stafford from this spot, but with him out and the option to move 2008 1st rounder Branden Albert inside to guard or to right tackle, I don’t see them passing on a guy like Oher. That team is still bound to the running game by that Larry Johnson contract, and Oher would improve that left side of the line immensely.

3. Miami Dolphins : Michael Johnson : Edge Rusher : Georgia Tech
Michael Johnson is the ultimate projection pick here. Making only two starts in his first three years with the Yellowjackets, Johnson still made an impact last season on passing downs. Now, with the starting job finally his, most people fully expect this immensely talented player to wreak havoc. Miami has proven they’re dedicated to the 3-4 defense and they are severely lacking that guy to come around the corner and pound quarterbacks.

4. Atlanta Falcons : Vontae Davis* : Cornerback : Illinois
It’s hard not to be impressed by Vontae Davis. The immensely strong and fast corner made big waves last year and I fully expect him to continue that this year for the Illini. Atlanta invested a first day pick in Chris Houston a couple drafts ago, but he has been a bit disappointing to date and the team could still use a top notch corner after dealing the troublesome DeAngelo Hall. All Davis needs is a strong junior campaign, because all the talent to go top 5 is there.

5. Tennessee Titans : Rey Maualuga : Linebacker : Southern California
The Rey Maualuga hype keeps growing. It started when he pratically beheaded UCLA quarterback Patrick Cowan and reached epic heights when he completely destroyed the Illinois offense in last years Rose Bowl. Although I personally think that Maualuga has a lot to work to do in regards to his recognition and discipline, and while there are some worrisome off the field stories surrounding him, truly disruptive defenders are few and far in between and Rey deserves that title. A rough season like this and the potential loss of Albert Haynesworth motivates the Titans to boost their run defense.

6. Arizona Cardinals (from San Francisco): Chris Wells* : Halfback : Ohio State
For a couple years worth of third rounders, this is a great move for Arizona. Ken Whisenhunt set up everything in his successful years with the Steelers with the inside run, something that has been sorely lacking in his desert stint. Wells is a bit one-dimensional, but he accomplishes it as well as anyone I’ve seen. Wells might go even higher if he puts up the kind of year he’s capable of.

7. Chicago Bears : Tim Tebow* : Quarterback : Florida
Tebow will be a very interesting prospect, but the expected emphasis to be placed on his passing this coming year and some reduced running should help NFL teams feel better about him. The Bears could probably use help elsewhere, but quarterback has been an issue with that team for so long and Tebow is such an intriguing talent, I don’t think they can afford to pass here.

8. Oakland Raiders : Darius Heyward-Bey* : Wide Receiver : Maryland
This would be a pretty classic Raider move, but it would actually make sense. Although Heyward-Bey has been part of a less than great pass attack in his career, he’s demonstrated good leaping ability, nice body control, and some truly epic speed. The guy Oakland brought into stretch the field, Drew Carter, just tore his ACL for the second time in the pros. Heyward-Bey fits that mold and bring more talent to the table. Oakland could use offensive line help badly, but I think wideout is more likely.

9. Baltimore Ravens : Eugene Monroe : Offensive Tackle : Virginia
With Jonathan Ogden retiring, we’ll get to see Jared Gaither get a crack at that left tackle spot. Somehow, I just think he’ll fit better on the right side. At the very least, a physical talent like Monroe would add some extra incentive. Monroe could well challenge Oher to be the top offensive tackle selected.

10. Washington Redskins : Malcolm Jenkins : Cornerback : Ohio State
That Washington cornerback corps has talent, but all of it seems to either be habitually injured or aging. This might be a bit high to draft depth, but Jenkins is such an all around talent and plays the ball so well, this might be really hard to pass on.

11. Denver Broncos : Williams Moore : Safety : Missouri
That Denver secondary outside of Champ Bailey has fallen off greatly the last few seasons. There might not have been a defensive back better than Moore last season.

12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers : Michael Crabtree* : Wide Receiver : Texas Tech
This is going to be a popular pick. Crabtree fits that model for Gruden’s offense and is about as good after the catch as you can want from a west coast offense receiver.


13. San Francisco 49ers (from Arizona): Andre Smith* : Offensive Tackle : Alabama
If San Francisco has a rough season again and Mike Nolan is shown the door, what does that mean? I’m not entirely sure, but I do know that the team could still use a top notch lineman and they don’t come much better than Smith.

14. Cleveland Browns : James Laurinaitis : Linebacker : Ohio State
Maybe if Cleveland falls off this much, they look to make a bigger impact move. A runner could be a possibility, as well as any sort of impact defender. That said, getting a guy who could be moved around Crennell’s defense and who plays as smartly as Laurinaitis is always valuable.

15. New York Jets : Tyson Jackson : Defensive End : Louisiana State
To make this work, Jackson is going to have to revert back to this sophomore year form, but a guy his size who can move like that will always have a place in Eric Mangini’s defense.

16. St. Louis Rams : Taylor Mays* : Safety : Southern California
St. Louis has need greater than safety, but perhaps no better option here. Mays may have top 5 talent, but he needs to play like it to reach those heights. Still, he’s way too physically gifted to fall far.

17. Buffalo Bills : Maurice Evans* : Defensive End : Penn State
Buffalo’s defense is on the rise, but that Tampa 2 scheme still needs a guy who can consistently burst around the edge and bring pressure. Evans should open eyes this coming season.

18. Cincinnati Bengals : Brian Orakpo : Edge Rusher : Texas
Realistically, considering that Vernon Gholston went 6th overall this past draft, this might be way too low for Orakpo. You want to talk about physical specimens; this guy should just light up the combine. A great player for Cincinatti’s 3-4 defense.

19. Jacksonville Jaguars : Jeremy Maclin* : Wide Receiver : Missouri
Jacksonville has had some trouble at wideout lately, and I don’t think Jerry Porter fixed things for the long run. Although the rule in Jacksonville has been bigger wideouts, it might be time to get a smaller explosive guy like Maclin in town.

20. New Orleans Saints : Victor “Macho” Harris : Cornerback : Virginia Tech
That Saints front office poured a lot of money into that defense, but I still think they’re a playmaking corner away from getting the point they need to be at. Harris has been around the ball as much as any corner in college football, drawing comparisons to Charles Woodson.

21. New York Giants : Fili Moala : Defensive Tackle : Southern California
I balked when people started talking about Moala like a top 10 pick. He’s well away from that. However, I think the Giants are going to realize they need some more bulk in the middle of that line and Moala would be a great fit in New York.

22. Green Bay Packers : Mike Mickens : Cornerback : Cincinnati
Every year experts note that Green Bay is thin at cornerback, and every year they went out and played great. Well, after starter Al Harris suffered what might have been his worse professional season (which somehow resulted in a pro bowl berth), the Packers need to find answers quickly. Mickens is a physical guy who has the skills to be left out on an island like that Packer defense requires.

23. Houston Texans : Knowshon Moreno* : Halfback : Georgia
If Steve Slaton works out for the Texans, than you should completely disregard this. But something tells me he won’t show enough to convince Kubiak to pass on a guy who fits the scheme as nicely as Moreno. A small but very quick and heady runner, Moreno would go much higher if not for concern about his ability to be a feature back.

24. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina): Alex Mack : Center : California
Normally I’d say the Eagles need exterior offensive line help, but with the erratic behavior of guard Shawn Andrews and age creeping up all over that line, the safe thing is to stock the Eagles with the most versatile lineman in the draft.

25. Minnesota Vikings : Travis Beckum : Tight End : Wisconsin
The Vikings have had high hopes for Visanthe Shiancoe, but those should be starting to fade. A running team like them needs to have a security blanket for whomever ends up quarterbacking for them, and Beckum has the skills to be a very dangerous receiver in both the short and long pass game. His blocking undoubtedly needs work, but the strength is there.

26. San Diego Chargers : George Selvie : Edge Rusher : South Florida
A lot of pressure is going to fall on Jyles Tucker this coming season, as he tries to replace the best pass rusher in the NFL. If Tucker can’t effectively replace Merriman, and Shawne’s injuries are as drastic as reported, you bet the Chargers will be looking elsewhere fast. Selvie wreaked havoc last year in opponents backfield, but his size (reported as low as 235 last season) might restrict him to a defense like San Diego’s.

27. Pittsburgh Steelers : George “Duke” Robinson : Offensive Guard : Oklahoma
Losing a interior lineman like Alan Faneca will hurt every time, but a guy like Robinson would help. Robinson would have to play very well to make it this high, because guards who go this high are usually top class, but the skills are there and the talent players to take advantage of his blocking exist.

28. Seattle Seahawks : James Davis : Halfback : Clemson
You can already tell this is going to be a popular pick for quite a while. Seattle doesn’t figure to pick low enough to snag one of the promising underclassmen who might declare and until someone steps forward, Davis is the consensus top senior runner in the country.

29. New England Patriots : Brian Cushing : Edge Rusher : Southern California
Some people love Cushing, but I’m a bit dubious. That said, I doubt he falls out of the first round, and I certainly can’t imagine a team like the Pats passing on a guy who has the requisite experience in a 3-4.

30. Dallas Cowboys : Percy Harvin* : Wide Receiver : Florida
Another pick that will get a lot of usage. Although the Cowboys appeared to be targeting bigger wideout last draft (and ended up picking none), one look at their roster suggests they could use some smaller speed guys. Harvin has the skills to add a dimension to that already formidable Dallas offense.

31. Philadelphia Eagles : Everette Brown : Defensive End : Florida State
With offseason acquisition Chris Clemons going down, the Eagles might well be looking for another small defensive end to harass the passer next year. Brown is small like Clemons, so much so that you wonder if he’d work in their defense, but the skills seem to be there.

32. Indianapolis Colts : Vance Walker : Defensive Tackle : Georgia Tech
The Colts defense played great last year, but that interior line could still obviously use some help. Walker is bigger than the average Indy defensive tackle, but he put up 8.5 sacks last year and has a great build for the defense. He and Michael Johnson should help highlight each other.

Caddy
08-26-2008, 03:31 AM
Absolutely loathe the position you have the Buccaneers as I'm pretty confident we'll be picking at least in the 15-18 range. However, I absolutely love the selection of Michael Crabtree. You were absolutely right in saying it would be a popular pick.

wicket
08-26-2008, 04:45 AM
I totally disagree on the drafting order, however lets not make that an issue. I'll just focus my comments on my two fav teams:
SF: I don't see them trading down much when monroe is still on the board to get a inferior linemen a couple of picks later. (or the picks gained should be insane)
NO: The reports out of trainingcamp concerning tracy porter are great, he seems to at least have a great shot of starting opposite mckenzie somewhere next year. So I'd rather have a OLB like Cushing or Curry or perhaps Mack or a Safety perhaps

princefielder28
08-26-2008, 08:18 AM
Nice mock, I like the Mickens selections for Green Bay even though they drafted Pat Lee. George Selvie has to be given consideration as well but no complaints.

Eaglez.Fan
08-26-2008, 08:54 AM
Eesh. Very good mock in all but bad eagles picks. If we grab another DE (in which we already have solid depth at) it'll be in the 2nd - 4th rounds. And as much as I like Mack our only holes on the offensive line is outside at tackle with both Runyan and Thomas being old. Reid would probably want to go with aguy he knows can play LT than a versatile guy. And Andrews is on the team for the foreseeable future and if he got traded MJG would do perfectly fine filling in for him.

indyfan1985
08-26-2008, 09:17 AM
Great pick for Tennessee. They could very well have the best LB corps in the league with the addition of Rey Maulauga.

As for the Colts, I love the pick of a DT. That is most definately their biggest need.

Young Legend
08-26-2008, 09:27 AM
Wow Darius Heyward-Bey over Crabtree Im a huge DHB fan but I wouldn't take him over Crabtree.

CJSchneider
08-26-2008, 09:57 AM
Trade:
Arizona sends their 2009 1st and 3rd and their 2010 3rd to San Francisco for the 49ers 2009 1st.

This is a trade I can see both teams making. It allows Arizona to get their future RB and allows the 49ers to super charge their rebuilding efforts.

6. Arizona Cardinals (from San Francisco): Chris Wells* : Halfback : Ohio State

I predicted Arizona making a similar deal to get Wells. Good pick IMO

13. San Francisco 49ers (from Arizona): Andre Smith* : Offensive Tackle : Alabama

With Stafford and the two best recievers off the board, OT is a logical pick. dont be suprised if they were to grab Laurinaitis, who is still available on your boards, or actually reach down and get Maclin. I guess it really depends on who looks available in the second.

20. New Orleans Saints : Victor “Macho” Harris : Cornerback : Virginia Tech

One of our need picks for sure. Check any other posted mock to see what I'm gonna say here.

31. Philadelphia Eagles

I'll make a Sig bet with you that they dont pick here.

rockio42
08-26-2008, 09:59 AM
Isn't Marquees Harris going to be replacing Shawn Merriman at OLB??

rockio42
08-26-2008, 10:03 AM
I don't HATE the Mays pick, I just think that OT is more of a need.

DiG
08-26-2008, 10:16 AM
wouldnt be too happy about the skins picking 10th...but its not my mock so your draft spots are up to you.

if we did end up there id be quite pleased with taking malcolm jenkins. hed be a great fit and fill a big time need for us.

thebow305
08-26-2008, 10:36 AM
I love you. (no ****)

AMAZING Miami pick!

Great job overall on the mock, I like it alot.

Unbiased
08-26-2008, 10:51 AM
Cincinnati doesn't run a 3-4. Are you projecting a transition for their defense?

Paranoidmoonduck
08-26-2008, 10:57 AM
Cincinnati doesn't run a 3-4. Are you projecting a transition for their defense?

Last I checked, Zimmer was projecting the team to run a scattering of 3-4 and 4-3 together this year, with perhaps a more definite turn in 2009 if the team shows promise. Orakpo is probably one of those guys who could play with his hand in the ground if need be.

Wow Darius Heyward-Bey over Crabtree Im a huge DHB fan but I wouldn't take him over Crabtree.

Neither would I, but I suspect that Oakland would.

Eesh. Very good mock in all but bad eagles picks. If we grab another DE (in which we already have solid depth at) it'll be in the 2nd - 4th rounds. And as much as I like Mack our only holes on the offensive line is outside at tackle with both Runyan and Thomas being old. Reid would probably want to go with aguy he knows can play LT than a versatile guy. And Andrews is on the team for the foreseeable future and if he got traded MJG would do perfectly fine filling in for him.

A fair point, although perhaps it is worth it to point out that Mack has seen time at both tackle spots and is more than athletic enough to handle at least RT in the NFL.

Cribbs>Hester
08-26-2008, 01:14 PM
You picked the biggest pansie of a linebacker you could for the 3-4? Awesome. James Laurinaitis is the most overrated player in the entire country. I have to hear announcers hang on his nuts every single saturday, yet all I see is a P-Word who can't shed a block or take on a lead blocker to save his life. The defensive line makes Laurinaitis, yet he gets all the credit.

Top 3 options on the board:
1. Maurice Evans
2. Everette Brown
3. George Selvie

TitanHope
08-26-2008, 02:27 PM
The Titans are tough to predict. Soooo many people are picking WR, as they have been for the past two years, so it's become the cliche pick that never happens. It's nice to see another position. As far as the other positions go, I can see DL, CB, or MIKE.

As far as MLB's go, the only player I see as a possibility in the 1st RD is Maualuga. You have a playmaking MLB that plays and acts like wildfire. Adding that he's a SC guy, Jeff Fisher could take a liking to him. But, the MLB on our DEF calls the coverage, so he needs to prove that he can recognize the offense along with his unparalleled instincts. Either way, good pick.

Malcolm Jenkins would be great at CB, though I think it's becoming less of a need now that Eric King has emerged. If the DL can't repeat last season's performance, then I can see a lineman being taken. Schwartz's DEF depends heavily on the DL play.

giantsfan
08-26-2008, 02:30 PM
Moala would be awesome. Our DTs are playing much better this season but adding big guy who could really command double teams and be a force against the run would be amazing. Adding him to our rotation of Robbins, Cofield and Alford would be a dream come true.

Dam8610
08-26-2008, 02:49 PM
32. Indianapolis Colts : Vance Walker : Defensive Tackle : Georgia Tech
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m249/paranoidmoonduck/VanceWalker.jpg
The Colts defense played great last year, but that interior line could still obviously use some help. Walker is bigger than the average Indy defensive tackle, but he put up 8.5 sacks last year and has a great build for the defense. He and Michael Johnson should help highlight each other.

At this point, absolutely perfect.

BeerBaron
08-26-2008, 03:02 PM
I would want to vomit my guts our all up and down if that were the superbowl matchup. I absolutely hate that with a fiery passion.....

At least the Bears did better than at least the Lions, lol. Getting a top QB if they pick in the top 10 is acceptable.

T-RICH49
08-26-2008, 04:20 PM
personally I think Albert will be just fine at LT.I'd go Maualuga because KC will need to address MLB

Dam8610
08-26-2008, 05:26 PM
I would want to vomit my guts our all up and down if that were the superbowl matchup. I absolutely hate that with a fiery passion.....

No kidding, a Colts-Giants matchup would be much better. :D

BeerBaron
08-26-2008, 05:32 PM
No kidding, a Colts-Giants matchup would be much better. :D

I don't think theres enough media around to suck up to all of Manning, Dungy, McNabb and Reid plus any other storylines that might be going on.....

Find a way to add Brett Favre to that and ESPN might have to add more hours to the day in order to fit in all of their zealous coverage....

vidae
08-26-2008, 05:45 PM
Oher is the popular pick but I'm not a big fan of it. Albert is going to solidfy the LT position. We didn't trade up to draft a guard, we did it to draft a franchise LT and people think we'd draft another before he's been on the field.

It sucks Stafford went #1, because he is who I really want for KC, but I think I'd prefer to go with Rey Maualuga here. Our LB corp is one of our biggest trouble spots and he would make an immediate impact.

Overall, I like your mock. Kinda hoping people stop giving us "franchise LTs" when we just drafted one. :)

Dam8610
08-26-2008, 06:31 PM
I don't think theres enough media around to suck up to all of Manning, Dungy, McNabb and Reid plus any other storylines that might be going on.....

Find a way to add Brett Favre to that and ESPN might have to add more hours to the day in order to fit in all of their zealous coverage....

You don't think a Manning v Manning Super Bowl with a chance for both teams to establish themselves as one of the best teams of the decade wouldn't garner nauseating levels of coverage from ESPN?

eaglesfan_45
08-26-2008, 07:07 PM
I like the players jus tnot so sure they fill in Eagles needs, but what I really like is where you have the Eagles picking. I <3 you (no ho-mo)

BeerBaron
08-26-2008, 07:08 PM
You don't think a Manning v Manning Super Bowl with a chance for both teams to establish themselves as one of the best teams of the decade wouldn't garner nauseating levels of coverage from ESPN?

If it were being broadcast on Fox, Joe Buck openly rooting for McNabb and the Eagles would at least double anything ESPN could crank out alone.....

And on top of that, I;m sure he'd work in some very anti-Yankees statements as well

Paranoidmoonduck
08-26-2008, 09:09 PM
Overall, I like your mock. Kinda hoping people stop giving us "franchise LTs" when we just drafted one. :)

I like Albert as a player, but I think calling him a franchise left tackle is going to far. Far less people object to giving Atlanta a guy like Monroe or Oher, but at least Sam Baker played left tackle in college. Kansas City need enough help all over that line that moving Albert to either guard to right tackle and taking Oher might just be the best move they can make. That's just my take though.

Geo
08-26-2008, 09:13 PM
I don't know if the Colts will draft a defensive tackle in the 1st round, but I'd like that pick a great deal if it became so. I haven't come across a reason NOT to like Vance Walker, especially in comparison to some other tackles.

GB12
08-26-2008, 09:40 PM
I like the pick, I just don't like what you wrote about it.

Every year experts note that Green Bay is thin at cornerback, and every year they went out and played great.
We've had poor play from our nickelback for years. Tramon Williams started to show up at the end of last year, but for the most part they haven't.
Well, after starter Al Harris suffered what might have been his worse professional season (which somehow resulted in a pro bowl berth), Harris was very good for most of last year, he had a few games that were pretty horrible though which is all people seem to remember. Of course the two games being two of our three biggest games of the year and on national television is probably why.

Paranoidmoonduck
08-26-2008, 10:09 PM
We've had poor play from our nickelback for years. Tramon Williams started to show up at the end of last year, but for the most part they haven't.
Harris was very good for most of last year, he had a few games that were pretty horrible though which is all people seem to remember. Of course the two games being two of our three biggest games of the year and on national television is probably why.

I mostly meant that Green Bay's secondary had been able to survive because their two top corners player very well. And statistically, Al Harris was one of the worst cornerbacks to start 16 games in the entire NFL. He was bad.

Smooth Criminal
08-26-2008, 10:55 PM
Unless the Steelers resign Marvel Smith, the pick absolutley has to be a LT. There simply isn't anyone on the roster capable of playing LT with Smith, Starks, and Essex and set to leave. That leaves only Hills, who has looked awful, on the roster.

Steelers either need a big FA signing or a 1st round LT

d34ng3l021
08-26-2008, 11:44 PM
Mock drafts with all same size pictures are so legit.

As for the pick, I dont like it at all. We will be running alot more cover 2 and alot more emphasis on zone. I would rather pick up CBs later on in the draft, or even take Malcolm Jenkins over him.

I would rather prefer Eugene Monroe or another top tackle on either side of the line.

vidae
08-27-2008, 12:37 AM
I like Albert as a player, but I think calling him a franchise left tackle is going to far. Far less people object to giving Atlanta a guy like Monroe or Oher, but at least Sam Baker played left tackle in college. Kansas City need enough help all over that line that moving Albert to either guard to right tackle and taking Oher might just be the best move they can make. That's just my take though.

I can see where you're coming from. I should have been clearer. We EXPECT him to be a franchise LT. If he doesn't work out the way we hope I can definitely see the pick being Oher, I guess I'm just a homer fan and am looking at the bright side of my terrible team! :)

Dam8610
08-27-2008, 09:06 AM
If it were being broadcast on Fox, Joe Buck openly rooting for McNabb and the Eagles would at least double anything ESPN could crank out alone.....

And on top of that, I;m sure he'd work in some very anti-Yankees statements as well

I think this is NBC's year. They hyped the one Manning v Manning regular season matchup there's been pretty good, imagine how much they'd hype it were it a Super Bowl.

OSUGiants17
08-27-2008, 09:11 AM
best mock I have seen so far, love every pick(especially the Giants pick). Only prob is Philly won't make the superbowl(idk if they will even make the playoffs).

Addict
08-27-2008, 11:24 AM
wow... detroit #1? that's harsh, not saying we're good or anything, I'm expecting a pick somewhere between 5-15, but worst in the league?

Paranoidmoonduck
08-27-2008, 11:36 AM
wow... detroit #1? that's harsh, not saying we're good or anything, I'm expecting a pick somewhere between 5-15, but worst in the league?

Detroit suffers from my desire to install someone new into that #1 slot. I loathe arguing the order of the picks and this order I made especially dramatic (because being conservative with them only serves to keep the readers from complaining). At any rate, I definitely see the potential for Detroit to be up there with the Kansas City's and Miami's, just as I see potential for Houston to be picking in the 20's and Jacksonville picking in the teens.

619
08-27-2008, 11:37 AM
Crazy to think receiver has possibly surpassed defensive end as the top priority in the draft for us. DHB may just be the best fit for this offense and he can fill the deep threat role immediately that we are currently in lack of for our big-armed QB. Overall solid pick .

Paranoidmoonduck
08-27-2008, 05:40 PM
Crazy to think receiver has possibly surpassed defensive end as the top priority in the draft for us. DHB may just be the best fit for this offense and he can fill the deep threat role immediately that we are currently in lack of for our big-armed QB. Overall solid pick .

I think that defensive end got settled as soon as Burgess started to shine once training camp started. This season should give us more of an answer on Richardson (who I like so far).

How Oakland handles the wide receiver position remains to be seen. Walker is a total wildcard, Carter may not ever be able to stay healthy, Curry is solid but should be a #2 at best. And yet, quite a sum of money is invested in those three players.

regoob2
08-27-2008, 09:38 PM
I would want to vomit my guts our all up and down if that were the superbowl matchup. I absolutely hate that with a fiery passion.....

At least the Bears did better than at least the Lions, lol. Getting a top QB if they pick in the top 10 is acceptable.
What top QB did we get all I saw was Tim ******* Tebow who would be a 2nd day pick if he came out in this draft.

Dam8610
08-27-2008, 09:47 PM
What top QB did we get all I saw was Tim ******* Tebow who would be a 2nd day pick if he came out in this draft.

Of course, because Tebow has never had a strong arm or displayed the ability to throw the ball well. Not to mention the fact that his offense isn't going to rely on him to run the ball NEARLY as much with Rainey and Moody in the backfield, and he's going to be showcased as more of a pure QB this year. You're right though, without seeing what he has to offer this season whatsoever, everyone can confidently write him off as nothing more than a Day 2 pick. :rolleyes:

BeerBaron
08-27-2008, 10:39 PM
What top QB did we get all I saw was Tim ******* Tebow who would be a 2nd day pick if he came out in this draft.

with mock drafts this early, you just have to assume the players they put up there have seasons making them worth the spot.... So if we get a QB worth a pick that high, it'll be a good deal is all im saying.

regoob2
08-27-2008, 10:42 PM
Of course, because Tebow has never had a strong arm or displayed the ability to throw the ball well. Not to mention the fact that his offense isn't going to rely on him to run the ball NEARLY as much with Rainey and Moody in the backfield, and he's going to be showcased as more of a pure QB this year. You're right though, without seeing what he has to offer this season whatsoever, everyone can confidently write him off as nothing more than a Day 2 pick. :rolleyes:Your assuming he will have great success which is not what has happened so far in practices. He has not proven **** yet. Right now he is not a 1st day QB.

Dam8610
08-27-2008, 10:47 PM
Your assuming he will have great success which is not what has happened so far in practices. He has not proven **** yet. Right now he is not a 1st day QB.

I'm assuming? Seems you're the one assuming here, since you say he'll be a Day 2 pick. All I did was point out the obvious fact that a lot can happen between now and the draft.

regoob2
08-27-2008, 10:54 PM
I'm assuming? Seems you're the one assuming here, since you say he'll be a Day 2 pick. All I did was point out the obvious fact that a lot can happen between now and the draft.
I'm not assuming you are, at this very moment Tebow would not be a first day pick. Slow release, never seen a snap under center, Below average accuracy. No thanks. A power running QB will not succeed in the NFL.

Bluedevil$
08-27-2008, 11:37 PM
Tyson Jackson, I like... next year would be a good time to move on from Shaun Ellis

Dam8610
08-28-2008, 12:38 AM
I'm not assuming you are, at this very moment Tebow would not be a first day pick. Slow release, never seen a snap under center, Below average accuracy. No thanks. A power running QB will not succeed in the NFL.

When did I say he would absolutely be a first day pick? All I said was you have no idea how this season will turn out yet, so to entirely dismiss the possibility that he could be a very highly rated QB by the time the draft rolls around isn't too smart. You ARE ASSUMING that nothing will change between now and the end of the season by saying what you've said.

Paranoidmoonduck
08-28-2008, 02:44 AM
Your assuming he will have great success which is not what has happened so far in practices. He has not proven **** yet. Right now he is not a 1st day QB.

Then neither is Stafford...or Johnson, or Heyward-Bey, or Jackson, and so on. I don't really agree that Tebow doesn't have the tools. His release isn't great, but he's accurate enough and he can get the ball downfield. My question is how he'll come out of that Florida offense, because he isn't asked to do a lot of coverage recognition.

He has the tools and the profile to make it that high and the situation could facilitate that.

CashmoneyDrew
08-28-2008, 10:53 AM
I really don't like the Titans pick and where they are picking but I'll bypass my feelings on where they are picking and just talk about the player you have them picking. While I love Rey Maualuga as a prospect, I don't think he fits well with the Titans and especially for such a high pick. The MLB does not play a huge part in the Titans defense. The Titans love to bring the MIKE off of the field and put in their nickel packages. The fact that the nickel is such a huge part of our defense plus the fact that it'll probably easily be our biggest need next offseason makes me believe we will make acquiring a starting corner our highest priority. Secondly, we already have Stephen Tulloch who will hopefully get the starting nod over Ryan Fowler this season if Jeff Fisher can get past his own hard-headedness about the situation. With that in mind our biggest needs for next year will be CB, WR, DE.

Paranoidmoonduck
08-28-2008, 11:48 PM
The Titans love to bring the MIKE off of the field and put in their nickel packages. The fact that the nickel is such a huge part of our defense plus the fact that it'll probably easily be our biggest need next offseason makes me believe we will make acquiring a starting corner our highest priority.

I understand where you're coming from, but bringing off the MIKE in a nickel is far from a requirement. A lot of teams leave their middle 'backer in there with one of the outside 'backers. Now, whether Maualuga is that guy in coverage is a question. Whether a Haynesworth-less Tennessee would feel comfortable enough running that much nickel is another question.

That said, if the Titans lose Haynesworth they are going to need to add something big to that front seven. A defensive end or tackle is a possibility, but neither represented good value where I had them picking. A good linebacker can clean up a lot, especially when they tackle like Rey does.

CashmoneyDrew
08-29-2008, 12:21 AM
I understand where you're coming from, but bringing off the MIKE in a nickel is far from a requirement. A lot of teams leave their middle 'backer in there with one of the outside 'backers. Now, whether Maualuga is that guy in coverage is a question. Whether a Haynesworth-less Tennessee would feel comfortable enough running that much nickel is another question.

That said, if the Titans lose Haynesworth they are going to need to add something big to that front seven. A defensive end or tackle is a possibility, but neither represented good value where I had them picking. A good linebacker can clean up a lot, especially when they tackle like Rey does.

But you also missed my point about Stephen Tulloch. Dude has been beasting all off-season. If not for Jeff Fisher's undying loyalty to Ryan Fowler he would be our starting MIKE and would probably be one of our leading tacklers easily.

iBoldin
08-29-2008, 01:44 PM
Love the trade up for Beanie, I could live with giving those picks up for a guy like him. I hated the Tim Hightower pick last year, and Edge is really starting to lose it.

BeerBaron
08-29-2008, 01:54 PM
Love the trade up for Beanie, I could live with giving those picks up for a guy like him. I hated the Tim Hightower pick last year, and Edge is really starting to lose it.

really? I thought Hightower has been looking good.

iBoldin
08-29-2008, 02:07 PM
He's looked alright, but more or less, I hated the pick at the time, I just don't think he can be a starting running back. He's a decent back up though.

eaglesalltheway
08-29-2008, 09:00 PM
I kind of liek where you have the Eagles, just one more owuldn't hurt, and I do like the players, but they just aren't fits. DE is one of our strongest points, even if Clemons amounts to nothing. Which says a lot of our DEs. Mack could be a good pick if he moves to G, because I think Todd Herremans will move to one of the OT positions in the near future, so, I could see it, but we drafted Og relatively early last year with McGlynn in the fourth and we already have capable fillers with him, MJG, and Scott Young. TE or WR may be addressed with one of those picks int hat situation.

toddmlazarchick
09-02-2008, 11:54 AM
Love the skins pick. If we end up picking there, that is exactly who I want!!

aNYtitan
09-07-2008, 03:53 PM
You can predict the Titans losing Haynesworth? It could happen, but the Titans could also become a steel curtain and Haynesworth has a career year. I love the Rey Maualuga pick, but don't see us picking that high

P.S. Just my personal feelings about it, as mocks this early in the year are just a toss up at times

Paranoidmoonduck
09-07-2008, 09:20 PM
We'll see of course, but Haynesworth is almost certainly going to hit the market and who knows whether the Titans will be able to stay in the bidding race. It really has nothing to do with how well Haynesworth does this year, except that the better he does, the more his prospective deal will blow past the previous biggest contract given to a defensive tackle. Consdering how he played today, the Titans are going to be facing some stiff competition for his services.